August 13, 2025 • 26 mins
The anticipation surrounding Taylor Swift's forthcoming twelfth album is palpable, particularly in light of the significant revelations discussed in this episode. We delve into the intriguing hints and clues that have emerged, primarily focusing on the connection between the New Heights podcast featuring Jason and Travis Kelsey and the speculation of a surprise guest, widely believed to be Swift herself. Furthermore, we explore the recent visual motifs and numerological patterns that suggest an imminent announcement, particularly on August 13th. The vibrant orange color scheme associated with this new era is examined as a striking departure from her previous palettes, thereby igniting further excitement among fans. Ultimately, we contemplate the implications of these developments and the potential direction of Swift's artistic evolution as she approaches the unveiling of her latest work.
The podcast delves into the intricate world of Taylor Swift, centering around the anticipation of her upcoming twelfth album, colloquially referred to as TS12. The speakers articulate the excitement surrounding recent developments, particularly a significant tease from the New Heights podcast, hosted by Jason and Travis Kelsey. As they dissect the implications of the Kelsey brothers' hints about a surprise guest, who many speculate could be Swift herself, they explore the connections between the date of this revelation, August 13th, and Swift's numerological significance of the number 13. This episode intricately weaves together fan theories, social media hints, and Swift's historical patterns of album releases, crafting a narrative that underscores the fervor and dedication of her fanbase. Through a detailed examination of Taylor Nation's recent posts, characterized by a vibrant orange aesthetic, they propose that the color may symbolize the new era of Swift's music, signifying a departure from previous themes and offering a fresh, upbeat stylistic shift that contrasts with her darker, more somber recent works. As the episode progresses, the discussion shifts to the speculation surrounding the album's content and potential collaborations, enhancing the atmosphere of anticipation that envelops the Swiftie community.
Takeaways:
- In this episode, we dissected the significance of the upcoming podcast episode featuring a surprise guest, which many speculate to be Taylor Swift herself.
- We discussed the intriguing hints dropped by Jason Kelsey about a special episode on August 13th, coinciding with Taylor's notable number, 13.
- The episode highlighted the recent Taylor Nation post that featured an orange theme, which fans believe signals the color scheme for TS12, her anticipated twelfth album.
- Listeners were informed about the synchronized timing of announcements from Taylor Nation and the New Heights podcast, suggesting a strategic marketing plan.
- We explored the numerology surrounding the release dates and noted the connections between Taylor's past works and the current speculation about her new album.
- Lastly, we emphasized the excitement and anticipation surrounding Taylor Swift's forthcoming projects, with many clues pointing to an imminent announcement.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- New Heights
- Taylor Swift
- Jason Kelsey
- Travis Kelsey
- Zymerton Pretty
- Taylor Nation
- Republic Records
- Sabrina Carpenter
- Stevie Nicks
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Oh, there we go.
This is the.
Let's talk Taylor.
This is a podcast about Taylor Swift.
It comes out the 13th of themonth, every single month on the
13th.
Mm.
Just in case anybody wants to know.
You bet I do.
Bet.
So we've got some very bigthings this week.
(00:23):
What is it?
So in the world, Taylor, wewoke up this morning with some crazy
news.
It is the 11th, by the way.
Right.
I don't even know what day it is.
It's August.
August 11, 2025.
Yeah, August 11, 2025.
(00:44):
So this morning, I thinkyesterday has happened.
Jason.
Kel.
Jason and Travis Kelsey have apodcast called it New Heights.
So there's like.
There's like, a top sports podcast.
And yesterday, or at some point.
I don't know when it was.
Don't trust me on that one.
They were.
It was like.
(01:04):
It was like jiggling.
Did you hear that?
Yeah.
So hold on.
Okay, so Jason Kelsey has beenhinting at a new surprise guest for
their New Heights podcast thatcomes out every Wednesday.
Okay, this is very exciting,isn't it?
Guess what Wednesday is.
13th.
So we'll find out when thiscomes out.
(01:25):
Yeah, this Wednesday's gonnabe very exciting.
We have a new episode ofZymerton Pretty, the new podcast
that we have to watch.
Okay, so Jason Kelsey washinting at a new surprise guest,
and he said, quote, we have avery, very special guest coming this
week.
It's Taylor.
(01:46):
Well, we don't know yet, butit's definitely Taylor.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, so first of all, he was wearing.
When he hinted at this last week.
I think it was last week,their podcast last week, because
they did, like, video.
Guess what merch he was wearing.
Taylor Merch.
What was he wearing?
(02:06):
I have no clue, but that'swhat this says.
Oh, but there's one more thing.
There was a.
They posted, like, a cutout ofa person.
You know how, like, inthumbnails, like, you have the thumbnail.
Someone, like, made the thumbnail.
Yeah, but it's a black.
It's.
But it's like the person's cutout.
Yeah, yeah.
They found the exact photothat the cutout is.
(02:26):
It's Taylor.
And guess what.
Guess what date it's from.
It's from Sept.
Wait, is it September?
No, it's from December 12th,2022, I think.
Or September 12th, I don't know.
It's from the 12th of 2022.
Something.
1 12th.
But guess what album we stillhave yet to come.
TS12, right?
(02:49):
What is TS12?
Taylor Swift.
12.
Is that the next album?
Yeah, that's gonna come outlike ts11.
Like torture poets is ts11.
And so we have, like a bunch of.
Bunch of stuff.
And then this morning, TaylorNation posted.
They did a post.
Hold on, let me find it.
(03:11):
It's all orange.
And we've been speculating fora very, very, very long time that
TS12 was gonna be all orange.
If I can find the post thatwas literally here a second ago.
Yes.
So it's all orange.
Guess how many photos there are.
12.
12.
Huh huh huh.
(03:33):
And guess what?
Okay, I'll read you the caption.
Thinking about when she said,see you next era.
So do you remember the letterthat she wrote when she got back
her masters?
Was it Vaguely.
So I think that was one.
No, it might have been theeras toy book when she said that.
I don't know.
But she did say, see you next era.
And we have even a suspectedemoji that could represent the next
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era.
You know how, like, each erahas, like an emoji, like, reputations,
like, you.
Told me that once before.
Yeah.
So this emote, this album issuspected to be like the, like, the
heart emoji with, like, thefire all around it.
So it's like lover reimagined.
Right.
So you can take a look at the post.
It's all Taylor.
(04:16):
And.
Is that the picture?
And what?
Well, it's all these.
It's Taylor, but all ERIS tourphotos of her wearing one.
So all of the orange outfitsand there are 12 of them.
Isn't that crazy?
So we think we're gonna getTS12 where we're gonna get, like,
an announcement.
And there was something elsethat was pointing to.
(04:37):
Hold on.
There was another thing thatwas pointing to September 12th.
I think it might have been thephoto that they found.
So they found the exact photothat the thumbnail is going to be
because they did, like, theblackout, like, the shadow thing,
as you know, and they foundthe exact photo.
And I think it was fromSeptember 22, 2022.
(05:01):
I mean, what?
No, September 12, 2022.
And people are also thinkingthat that could point to, like, a
surprise performance.
Do you think she's going toperform on the actual show?
The Travis Kelce Show?
It's a podcast.
What is she gonna do?
(05:22):
Sing for everyone on the podcast?
Yeah, people do that.
Sing live on a podcast.
I'll help.
What goes.
(05:42):
So that's basically what'shappening now.
But now everyone's super,super, super excited because it's
like, we could get an announcement.
Some people don't think that we.
That we're gonna get anannouncement, but something is definitely,
definitely, definitely coming.
Okay.
Okay.
Here, I found it.
You know Tayta Z. I know Tate.
(06:04):
So Tay disease is like, backat being active.
And look what they posted.
So that is the thumbnail.
And do you see the cutout ofthat photo?
Yes.
So someone found that exactphoto, which is like super, super,
super excited.
Exciting.
That exact photo is fromSeptember 12, 2022.
(06:25):
Okay.
Which is so important becauseit's the 12.
So everything's pointing to 12.
Okay.
No one else points to 12.
What?
So Taylor's last tick tockthat she ever posted.
So as we know, Taylor hasn'treally been active on Instagram very
much.
Like, she hasn't posted anything.
(06:46):
Okay.
In, like, forever.
Really?
Yeah.
Like, the last time she postedwas May 30, and that was when she
bought back her Masters.
Whoa.
But before that, it was likethe last night of the Eras tour.
She hasn't posted on Instagramvery much at all.
She usually does.
Sometimes she's very active,sometimes she's not.
The last time she wasn'tactive, which is.
(07:07):
We're getting into, like, oldnews was when rep came out.
But we're not getting rep TVanymore, as we know.
We might get Vault tracks, but.
Right.
It's fine.
So she hasn't been active verymuch at all.
Only, like, stories occasionally.
And the only stories she'sposted that I remember of were probably
for the masters, the, like,the Happy Gilmore thing and then
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the Selena Gomez album.
Like her first.
Why would she post post aboutHappy Gilmore?
She loved Happy Gilmore.
Oh, really?
That's like her thing.
She loves Happy Gilmore.
And then Happy Gilmore 2 justcame out.
Right.
So she.
She loves Happy Gilmore.
So that's what inspired her toactually post this.
Yeah.
The first, like, thing thatshe posted to break her silence after
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December 11th, 11th, 2024, wasabout, like, Selena Gomez and Benny
Blanco's album.
Who the hell's Benny Blanco?
They're married.
Aren't they married?
Selena Gomez's boyfriend or husband?
I don't know.
I know Selena Gomez.
We know.
(08:11):
Hold on.
Because I actually like thatsong that she made a long time ago.
You do like that song?
Are they.
They are married, I think.
No, they're not.
They're engaged.
Okay.
So they made an album together.
It's not very good.
That's a shame.
Yeah.
(08:32):
So she posts about thatbecause obviously they're friends.
They were also spotted goingto dinner together.
Prince Lena recently, I think,which is exciting, isn't it exciting.
Yes.
So hold on a second.
So.
So let me.
I just.
I want to cur.
I'm just curious to see ifChat GPT is going to find us all
(08:54):
the.
All the Easter eggs aboutTaylor's 12th album.
Hey, can you search theInternet and find me all the recent
Easter eggs for Taylor Swift'supcoming 12th album?
(09:22):
We're gonna find out.
I hope these people like mouth sound.
Because you're eating dinner.
Because we only have.
We have an hour before yourzoom, and the zoom is a final session
for families to prepare foropening week.
So it's just an informationsession and we might be able to have
(09:44):
asked questions.
Yeah.
So in the meantime, she's searching.
I named my chatgpt Charisma.
Charisma Bonet.
Like, Charisma's searching forall the Easter eggs for Taylor Swift's
upcoming 12th album listing.
Taylor Swift's TS12 clues.
(10:07):
Here's a fresh batch.
Yeah, listen to this.
Oh, hang on a second.
Do you want me to copy pastethis and send it to you?
Check this out.
(10:32):
Go ahead.
So wait, one more thing.
Yes?
Was that.
Do we remember the post?
So our last post, her lastTikTok that she posted was, you know,
(10:56):
remember like the one where itwas like mother's back or something?
And it's like Taylor, she waslike, wearing like a yellow crew
neck jeans and like, bootiesand she was like, walking in the
Airstroke stadium and then shestops in front of Route A12 and she's
holding like, her cat.
Wait, say it again.
Okay, so her most recenttailor, her.
(11:19):
Whoa.
Her most recent TikTok washer, like, walking.
It was.
I think it might have been.
I don't remember what night itwas, but it was towards the end of
the show.
Or it might have been the end.
I'm not sure, but it was.
She made like a TikTok of her,like, walking in the stadium and
she stops in front of row A12,which was like, everyone is crazy
(11:44):
about.
Because it's 12.
Yeah.
And I think that was like.
I don't remember what the important.
What the importance was then,but I think it was more clowning
towards rap tv.
But.
So check this out.
You already covered it, but.
(12:07):
Oh, yeah.
Wait, hold on.
Okay, the thing about thisone, everyone thought it was going
to be TS12 because she takes11 steps before stopping in front
of row A12.
And then people are saying,A12, August 12th.
Oh.
So people are saying thateither tomorrow we could get something.
Oh.
(12:27):
Or it's like, August, TS 12th.
When was their last albumdropped April 19th, 2024.
2024.
So a year ago?
Yeah, over a year ago.
That's a lot of albums.
So she.
Should I read that?
Should I read what chat GPT found?
So you already covered TaylorNation's orange drop, an Instagram
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carousel of 12 photos, allorange outfits captured, captioned,
thinking about wrong.
They got it wrong.
I'm sorry, what?
That's not the right emoji.
Supposed to be the emoji.
The heart emoji with the fivewith, like, the flames around it.
Because everyone thinks thatthat's gonna be like, the new emoji
for this era.
Oh, that's important.
(13:13):
I don't see that emoji.
I don't know.
No, I just see a heart.
Yeah, I don't see.
So, all right, well, I'venever seen the heart with them.
Oh, I don't think I've everseen that emoji with the heart, with
the fire.
Captioned thinking about whenshe said, see you next era.
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Widely read as locking inorange as the new era color.
A color she hasn't used before.
Republic Records jumped intothe comments like, Switch fanned
the flames.
Pun intended.
That's another thing.
She's.
Her whole thing is that she'sused every emoji.
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Every, like, color emoji hasbeen used for her albums, except
for orange.
So that's like, the only oneshe hasn't used to, like, represent.
Because, like, every album'slike a color.
But there's more colors than that.
Well, not heart emoji, though.
Not her emoji.
There's 12.
No, wait.
Oh, so you're saying there'sonly 12?
There's 12 card emoji colorsand she's.
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Everyone except for orange.
The Heights.
The second bullet point is the heights.
No, I'm sorry.
The new Heights podcast teaseTravis and Jason Kelsey announced
a special episode forWednesday, August 13th at 7pm Eastern.
Oh, and is it's 13 too.
Taylor's Lucky 13 with asilhouetted guest that looks very
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swift shaped.
Jason's wearing Eric in thepromo and the visual theme matches
the orange sparkle vibe.
It's also unusual prime timetiming for the show.
There's a next bullet point issynchronized timing and numerology.
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Swifties clocked that thepodcast teaser and Taylor Nation
post landed 12 minutes apart.
And some noticed a 9:12amtimestamp on one post fueling a 9:12
Friday drop theory.
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The August 13th podcast dateplus 7:00pm time also spawned the
1387 knots.
What the hell does that even mean?
Well, 13 is Taylor's number 87is Travis is number one.
There's another bullet point,the 12 letters motif.
Recent captions messages fromTaylor use 12 repleted letters.
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For example, this with 12 I'sand God with 12 D's which fans read
as a wink at album number 12.
Orange.
In the eras tour itself, fanspoint to the orange confetti added
late in the tour and Taylorexiting through the orange door on
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stage as long lead color breadcrumbs.
And then there's a glitter gelpen energy.
The glittery orange backgroundon the New Heights teaser has people
guessing the new record couldlean fun upbeat for her glitter gel
pen songwriting vibe versusTTPD's grayscale mood, the big picture
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takeaway is multiple reputableoutlets are now aggregating these
clues and floating TS12 asimminent most tying the reveal to
August 13th on new heights.
Okay, ChatGPT wants me to askif do you want me to keep Keep a
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watch out and ping you anytimesomething goes live.
Yes.
Do you see the heart?
Yes.
Please keep a watch out forany new hints on TS12 and ping me
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if anything comes up.
Thank you so much.
Charisma.
Do you see the heart that Isent you?
That heart that's supposedlylike the new signal symbol for the
era?
Oh, gosh.
But it's not orange at all.
It's red.
It's red, but it's a red heart.
But it's.
But it's like not like, it'snot like all the things aren't like
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all of the albums are like,they're like emoji is different from
like their heart emoji.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, lover isn't in pink heart.
Like if it.
If it was a heart, it would bethe pink heart, but it's like the
bow and arrow for the archer.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, okay.
(18:05):
All right.
This is it could be a short episode.
Do you have any more to say?
Next episode, we're going todo a deep dive onto the song peace.
Everything you ever want toknow about peace and then some.
Oh, okay.
So today is.
We're back.
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August 12th.
It's August 12th.
9:22am and update from last time.
So last night, I'm not surewhen the countdown started, but on
Taylor Swift's website therewas a countdown posted and it was
like an orange background with sparkles.
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Orange sparkly background andthen a countdown in teal so that
now we know that is the newcolor palette for TS12.
And it was counting down to12:12am on August 12th.
So 12, 12, 12.
You think it's gonna come outon Halloween?
No, it's gonna come out on the12th of a month.
(19:10):
Either.
September 12th, I think.
I think it's probably gonna beSeptember 12th.
Okay.
Because the vinyls are set topre order.
Yeah.
On.
They'll ship before.
On or before October 13th.
So why would they ship beforethe album comes out?
Like, she doesn't do that.
Billy did that once.
And accidentally, someone gottheir vinyl before it released.
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Whoa.
They were really excited.
So at 12:12am we got anannouncement which is super, super
exciting.
Taylor Swift posted Out of theBlue a small snippet of the podcast
that is happening tomorrow at7pm and this is gonna be really exciting
because usually.
One more note about the podcast.
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Their usual schedule is everyWednesday in the morning, and they've
changed it for tomorrow.
So it's tomorrow.
It's gonna come out 7pm whichis super different, which is why
I'm suspecting that we'regonna get, like, the full thing.
So we're gonna get, like, thealbum cover, release date, and everything.
So right now we have nothingbut the title and, like, the color
scheme, which is like a mintytealish green and then orange, which
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we've been suspended for,like, the past two years, basically,
so we've done something right.
And she's been hinting at this.
Oh, another thing about thecolor palette.
So do you remember how shechanged the 1989 outfits?
So it's like mismatched top, bottom?
Well, one of them was.
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I don't remember if it wasgreen on top and orange on the bottom
or orange on top and green onthe bottom.
But she did wear the app twice.
I'm not sure what the twodates were, but I do know that she
wore it once, and then 112days later, she wore the exact outfit.
And that means that she's beenhinting at the outfit basically since
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right after TTPD came out.
So, like, before the middle oflast year to, like, the end of the
tour.
So this has been a thing for avery long time, as we can tell.
And she's been wearing thiscolor palette.
We thought it was gonna beorange and purple, and I think we
might have guessed a littlebit of green, but now we know for
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sure that it was definitelyorange and green, which she's been,
like, wearing those colors onrepeat for a very long time now.
So that's really exciting.
And we also have more things.
Okay.
So the most important thingright now is that we don't know anything
about the album except for the name.
But we do know now becauselast night in Times Square, they
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had a big billboard of, like,one of the Spotify QR codes.
But it's not like the QR code.
It's like the scan thing thatleads you to a song, but it led us
to a playlist called this.
What's it called, Baby, thisis show business or something.
I don't know.
(22:12):
Close to that.
I can't remember because I gotit wrong the first time with the
heart emoji that we thoughtwas going to be the album.
So we know that's the album.
The heart emoji now, the heartwith the flames.
And we kind of know the theme,and we also know that it's gonna
be a pop album because thisplaylist was all songs, was 22 songs,
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all produced by Max Martin or shellback.
So we know pretty much nowthat the whole album is going to
be a Shellback Max Martin album.
And the playlist is 22 minutesand an hour and 20.
It's 22 songs in an hour and22 minutes.
So it's something to do with22 too.
And the first song was 22.
It's in alphabetical order.
The playlist is inalphabetical order.
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So that's basically wherewe're at now.
There's also some theoriesthat it's gonna be like, a collab
album with all of, like, thepeople that she's, like, played with,
especially Sabrina Carpenter,because, well, there's like, a few
things.
So first of all, somewhere onher website, there's a thing that
says August 13th.
I know that somewhere.
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I don't know.
But the most important thingis that on NOLA Night 2, they performed
together, and Taylor waswearing her.
First of all, Taylor waswearing the orange surprise song
dress, which is super important.
And she called.
She whipped out her phone inthe middle of the show, and she calls
Sabrina Carpenter, and she'slike, sabrina, where are you?
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Is there, like, any chance,like, it's like, you know what I'm
saying?
As, like, a joke.
She's like, is there anychance that you can, like, come over
here and play with me?
And she was like, okay, put onsome clothes and come over.
Put on some clothes is super,super important.
Okay?
Because five days ago, Sabrinaposted a post, and it was like, her
next to, like, some, like, clothes.
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Like a clothesline with, like,clothes hanging on it.
And it said, put on some clothes.
Oh.
Huh.
And that's really important.
And guess what photo was thelast photo in Taylor Nation's post
that was spiking a lot of stuff.
Remember that post with the 12photos, all orange?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The last photo was a photofrom that night of them performing
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together.
Oh, okay.
So this is gonna be like ataborina collab.
Probably.
Probably.
Mostly.
Wait, what's her name?
Sabrina.
Sabrina.
She also has a new albumcoming out very soon.
I'm not sure.
Isn't that very exciting?
Yeah, it's cool.
I'm very excited.
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I have to start makingfriendship bracelets.
Okay.
The life of a show girl.
Nice.
Oh, wait, there's one more thing.
Another pointing to, like, thecollab in general is that I don't
know if it was yesterday, itmight have been today.
Stevie Nicks posted a videobecause she's like, an upcoming song
single.
(25:03):
I'm just.
No, she's like an upcomingsingle, I think with someone else.
And it was like a video aboutthat, but it was like, in a car and
like, it said August 13, whichis tomorrow when everything's gonna
happen.
So we're very excited, aren't we?
Yeah, Very, very excited.
Cool.
I'm hoping we get a releasedate tomorrow.
(25:25):
Yeah.
What if she just releases it?
I'd be happy.
She might.
I mean, why?
She wrote it and then shetold, like, place a week before she
released it.
Why play games?
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Do you ever get nervous thather it's not going to be as good
as the last thing.
I do get very nervous.
Yeah, I do.
I got very nervous withtorture poets.
Yeah.
But I was not disappointed.
Yeah.
Although I'm a little bit morenervous because I'm not.
Not very.
I'm not a pop girly.
I'm more of like a folklore Evermore.
(26:05):
Yeah.
Type vibes.
I'm more of like an AaronDestner collab.
Yeah.
But I mean, don't we all love 1989?
Yes.
1989 is a masterpiece.
It's fantastic.
So we get our nineteen nine sister.
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Very exciting.
Yay.
Cool.
So anything else you want tosay before we sign off?
Oh, there we go.
This is the.
Let's talk Taylor.
This is a podcast about Taylor Swift.
It comes out the 13th of themonth, every single month on the
13th.
Mm.
Just in case anybody wants to know.
You bet I do.
Bet.
So we've got some very bigthings this week.
(00:23):
What is it?
So in the world, Taylor, wewoke up this morning with some crazy
news.
It is the 11th, by the way.
Right.
I don't even know what day it is.
It's August.
August 11, 2025.
Yeah, August 11, 2025.
(00:44):
So this morning, I thinkyesterday has happened.
Jason.
Kel.
Jason and Travis Kelsey have apodcast called it New Heights.
So there's like.
There's like, a top sports podcast.
And yesterday, or at some point.
I don't know when it was.
Don't trust me on that one.
They were.
It was like.
(01:04):
It was like jiggling.
Did you hear that?
Yeah.
So hold on.
Okay, so Jason Kelsey has beenhinting at a new surprise guest for
their New Heights podcast thatcomes out every Wednesday.
Okay, this is very exciting,isn't it?
Guess what Wednesday is.
13th.
So we'll find out when thiscomes out.
(01:25):
Yeah, this Wednesday's gonnabe very exciting.
We have a new episode ofZymerton Pretty, the new podcast
that we have to watch.
Okay, so Jason Kelsey washinting at a new surprise guest,
and he said, quote, we have avery, very special guest coming this
week.
It's Taylor.
(01:46):
Well, we don't know yet, butit's definitely Taylor.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, so first of all, he was wearing.
When he hinted at this last week.
I think it was last week,their podcast last week, because
they did, like, video.
Guess what merch he was wearing.
Taylor Merch.
What was he wearing?
(02:06):
I have no clue, but that'swhat this says.
Oh, but there's one more thing.
There was a.
They posted, like, a cutout ofa person.
You know how, like, inthumbnails, like, you have the thumbnail.
Someone, like, made the thumbnail.
Yeah, but it's a black.
It's.
But it's like the person's cutout.
Yeah, yeah.
They found the exact photothat the cutout is.
(02:26):
It's Taylor.
And guess what.
Guess what date it's from.
It's from Sept.
Wait, is it September?
No, it's from December 12th,2022, I think.
Or September 12th, I don't know.
It's from the 12th of 2022.
Something.
1 12th.
But guess what album we stillhave yet to come.
TS12, right?
(02:49):
What is TS12?
Taylor Swift.
12.
Is that the next album?
Yeah, that's gonna come outlike ts11.
Like torture poets is ts11.
And so we have, like a bunch of.
Bunch of stuff.
And then this morning, TaylorNation posted.
They did a post.
Hold on, let me find it.
(03:11):
It's all orange.
And we've been speculating fora very, very, very long time that
TS12 was gonna be all orange.
If I can find the post thatwas literally here a second ago.
Yes.
So it's all orange.
Guess how many photos there are.
12.
12.
Huh huh huh.
(03:33):
And guess what?
Okay, I'll read you the caption.
Thinking about when she said,see you next era.
So do you remember the letterthat she wrote when she got back
her masters?
Was it Vaguely.
So I think that was one.
No, it might have been theeras toy book when she said that.
I don't know.
But she did say, see you next era.
And we have even a suspectedemoji that could represent the next
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era.
You know how, like, each erahas, like an emoji, like, reputations,
like, you.
Told me that once before.
Yeah.
So this emote, this album issuspected to be like the, like, the
heart emoji with, like, thefire all around it.
So it's like lover reimagined.
Right.
So you can take a look at the post.
It's all Taylor.
(04:16):
And.
Is that the picture?
And what?
Well, it's all these.
It's Taylor, but all ERIS tourphotos of her wearing one.
So all of the orange outfitsand there are 12 of them.
Isn't that crazy?
So we think we're gonna getTS12 where we're gonna get, like,
an announcement.
And there was something elsethat was pointing to.
(04:37):
Hold on.
There was another thing thatwas pointing to September 12th.
I think it might have been thephoto that they found.
So they found the exact photothat the thumbnail is going to be
because they did, like, theblackout, like, the shadow thing,
as you know, and they foundthe exact photo.
And I think it was fromSeptember 22, 2022.
(05:01):
I mean, what?
No, September 12, 2022.
And people are also thinkingthat that could point to, like, a
surprise performance.
Do you think she's going toperform on the actual show?
The Travis Kelce Show?
It's a podcast.
What is she gonna do?
(05:22):
Sing for everyone on the podcast?
Yeah, people do that.
Sing live on a podcast.
I'll help.
What goes.
(05:42):
So that's basically what'shappening now.
But now everyone's super,super, super excited because it's
like, we could get an announcement.
Some people don't think that we.
That we're gonna get anannouncement, but something is definitely,
definitely, definitely coming.
Okay.
Okay.
Here, I found it.
You know Tayta Z. I know Tate.
(06:04):
So Tay disease is like, backat being active.
And look what they posted.
So that is the thumbnail.
And do you see the cutout ofthat photo?
Yes.
So someone found that exactphoto, which is like super, super,
super excited.
Exciting.
That exact photo is fromSeptember 12, 2022.
(06:25):
Okay.
Which is so important becauseit's the 12.
So everything's pointing to 12.
Okay.
No one else points to 12.
What?
So Taylor's last tick tockthat she ever posted.
So as we know, Taylor hasn'treally been active on Instagram very
much.
Like, she hasn't posted anything.
(06:46):
Okay.
In, like, forever.
Really?
Yeah.
Like, the last time she postedwas May 30, and that was when she
bought back her Masters.
Whoa.
But before that, it was likethe last night of the Eras tour.
She hasn't posted on Instagramvery much at all.
She usually does.
Sometimes she's very active,sometimes she's not.
The last time she wasn'tactive, which is.
(07:07):
We're getting into, like, oldnews was when rep came out.
But we're not getting rep TVanymore, as we know.
We might get Vault tracks, but.
Right.
It's fine.
So she hasn't been active verymuch at all.
Only, like, stories occasionally.
And the only stories she'sposted that I remember of were probably
for the masters, the, like,the Happy Gilmore thing and then
(07:29):
the Selena Gomez album.
Like her first.
Why would she post post aboutHappy Gilmore?
She loved Happy Gilmore.
Oh, really?
That's like her thing.
She loves Happy Gilmore.
And then Happy Gilmore 2 justcame out.
Right.
So she.
She loves Happy Gilmore.
So that's what inspired her toactually post this.
Yeah.
The first, like, thing thatshe posted to break her silence after
(07:49):
December 11th, 11th, 2024, wasabout, like, Selena Gomez and Benny
Blanco's album.
Who the hell's Benny Blanco?
They're married.
Aren't they married?
Selena Gomez's boyfriend or husband?
I don't know.
I know Selena Gomez.
We know.
(08:11):
Hold on.
Because I actually like thatsong that she made a long time ago.
You do like that song?
Are they.
They are married, I think.
No, they're not.
They're engaged.
Okay.
So they made an album together.
It's not very good.
That's a shame.
Yeah.
(08:32):
So she posts about thatbecause obviously they're friends.
They were also spotted goingto dinner together.
Prince Lena recently, I think,which is exciting, isn't it exciting.
Yes.
So hold on a second.
So.
So let me.
I just.
I want to cur.
I'm just curious to see ifChat GPT is going to find us all
(08:54):
the.
All the Easter eggs aboutTaylor's 12th album.
Hey, can you search theInternet and find me all the recent
Easter eggs for Taylor Swift'supcoming 12th album?
(09:22):
We're gonna find out.
I hope these people like mouth sound.
Because you're eating dinner.
Because we only have.
We have an hour before yourzoom, and the zoom is a final session
for families to prepare foropening week.
So it's just an informationsession and we might be able to have
(09:44):
asked questions.
Yeah.
So in the meantime, she's searching.
I named my chatgpt Charisma.
Charisma Bonet.
Like, Charisma's searching forall the Easter eggs for Taylor Swift's
upcoming 12th album listing.
Taylor Swift's TS12 clues.
(10:07):
Here's a fresh batch.
Yeah, listen to this.
Oh, hang on a second.
Do you want me to copy pastethis and send it to you?
Check this out.
(10:32):
Go ahead.
So wait, one more thing.
Yes?
Was that.
Do we remember the post?
So our last post, her lastTikTok that she posted was, you know,
(10:56):
remember like the one where itwas like mother's back or something?
And it's like Taylor, she waslike, wearing like a yellow crew
neck jeans and like, bootiesand she was like, walking in the
Airstroke stadium and then shestops in front of Route A12 and she's
holding like, her cat.
Wait, say it again.
Okay, so her most recenttailor, her.
(11:19):
Whoa.
Her most recent TikTok washer, like, walking.
It was.
I think it might have been.
I don't remember what night itwas, but it was towards the end of
the show.
Or it might have been the end.
I'm not sure, but it was.
She made like a TikTok of her,like, walking in the stadium and
she stops in front of row A12,which was like, everyone is crazy
(11:44):
about.
Because it's 12.
Yeah.
And I think that was like.
I don't remember what the important.
What the importance was then,but I think it was more clowning
towards rap tv.
But.
So check this out.
You already covered it, but.
(12:07):
Oh, yeah.
Wait, hold on.
Okay, the thing about thisone, everyone thought it was going
to be TS12 because she takes11 steps before stopping in front
of row A12.
And then people are saying,A12, August 12th.
Oh.
So people are saying thateither tomorrow we could get something.
Oh.
(12:27):
Or it's like, August, TS 12th.
When was their last albumdropped April 19th, 2024.
2024.
So a year ago?
Yeah, over a year ago.
That's a lot of albums.
So she.
Should I read that?
Should I read what chat GPT found?
So you already covered TaylorNation's orange drop, an Instagram
(12:52):
carousel of 12 photos, allorange outfits captured, captioned,
thinking about wrong.
They got it wrong.
I'm sorry, what?
That's not the right emoji.
Supposed to be the emoji.
The heart emoji with the fivewith, like, the flames around it.
Because everyone thinks thatthat's gonna be like, the new emoji
for this era.
Oh, that's important.
(13:13):
I don't see that emoji.
I don't know.
No, I just see a heart.
Yeah, I don't see.
So, all right, well, I'venever seen the heart with them.
Oh, I don't think I've everseen that emoji with the heart, with
the fire.
Captioned thinking about whenshe said, see you next era.
(13:36):
Widely read as locking inorange as the new era color.
A color she hasn't used before.
Republic Records jumped intothe comments like, Switch fanned
the flames.
Pun intended.
That's another thing.
She's.
Her whole thing is that she'sused every emoji.
(13:57):
Every, like, color emoji hasbeen used for her albums, except
for orange.
So that's like, the only oneshe hasn't used to, like, represent.
Because, like, every album'slike a color.
But there's more colors than that.
Well, not heart emoji, though.
Not her emoji.
There's 12.
No, wait.
Oh, so you're saying there'sonly 12?
There's 12 card emoji colorsand she's.
(14:18):
Everyone except for orange.
The Heights.
The second bullet point is the heights.
No, I'm sorry.
The new Heights podcast teaseTravis and Jason Kelsey announced
a special episode forWednesday, August 13th at 7pm Eastern.
Oh, and is it's 13 too.
Taylor's Lucky 13 with asilhouetted guest that looks very
(14:42):
swift shaped.
Jason's wearing Eric in thepromo and the visual theme matches
the orange sparkle vibe.
It's also unusual prime timetiming for the show.
There's a next bullet point issynchronized timing and numerology.
(15:03):
Swifties clocked that thepodcast teaser and Taylor Nation
post landed 12 minutes apart.
And some noticed a 9:12amtimestamp on one post fueling a 9:12
Friday drop theory.
(15:24):
The August 13th podcast dateplus 7:00pm time also spawned the
1387 knots.
What the hell does that even mean?
Well, 13 is Taylor's number 87is Travis is number one.
There's another bullet point,the 12 letters motif.
Recent captions messages fromTaylor use 12 repleted letters.
(15:49):
For example, this with 12 I'sand God with 12 D's which fans read
as a wink at album number 12.
Orange.
In the eras tour itself, fanspoint to the orange confetti added
late in the tour and Taylorexiting through the orange door on
(16:12):
stage as long lead color breadcrumbs.
And then there's a glitter gelpen energy.
The glittery orange backgroundon the New Heights teaser has people
guessing the new record couldlean fun upbeat for her glitter gel
pen songwriting vibe versusTTPD's grayscale mood, the big picture
(16:37):
takeaway is multiple reputableoutlets are now aggregating these
clues and floating TS12 asimminent most tying the reveal to
August 13th on new heights.
Okay, ChatGPT wants me to askif do you want me to keep Keep a
(16:58):
watch out and ping you anytimesomething goes live.
Yes.
Do you see the heart?
Yes.
Please keep a watch out forany new hints on TS12 and ping me
(17:19):
if anything comes up.
Thank you so much.
Charisma.
Do you see the heart that Isent you?
That heart that's supposedlylike the new signal symbol for the
era?
Oh, gosh.
But it's not orange at all.
It's red.
It's red, but it's a red heart.
But it's.
But it's like not like, it'snot like all the things aren't like
(17:45):
all of the albums are like,they're like emoji is different from
like their heart emoji.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, lover isn't in pink heart.
Like if it.
If it was a heart, it would bethe pink heart, but it's like the
bow and arrow for the archer.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, okay.
(18:05):
All right.
This is it could be a short episode.
Do you have any more to say?
Next episode, we're going todo a deep dive onto the song peace.
Everything you ever want toknow about peace and then some.
Oh, okay.
So today is.
We're back.
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August 12th.
It's August 12th.
9:22am and update from last time.
So last night, I'm not surewhen the countdown started, but on
Taylor Swift's website therewas a countdown posted and it was
like an orange background with sparkles.
(18:48):
Orange sparkly background andthen a countdown in teal so that
now we know that is the newcolor palette for TS12.
And it was counting down to12:12am on August 12th.
So 12, 12, 12.
You think it's gonna come outon Halloween?
No, it's gonna come out on the12th of a month.
(19:10):
Either.
September 12th, I think.
I think it's probably gonna beSeptember 12th.
Okay.
Because the vinyls are set topre order.
Yeah.
On.
They'll ship before.
On or before October 13th.
So why would they ship beforethe album comes out?
Like, she doesn't do that.
Billy did that once.
And accidentally, someone gottheir vinyl before it released.
(19:34):
Whoa.
They were really excited.
So at 12:12am we got anannouncement which is super, super
exciting.
Taylor Swift posted Out of theBlue a small snippet of the podcast
that is happening tomorrow at7pm and this is gonna be really exciting
because usually.
One more note about the podcast.
(19:55):
Their usual schedule is everyWednesday in the morning, and they've
changed it for tomorrow.
So it's tomorrow.
It's gonna come out 7pm whichis super different, which is why
I'm suspecting that we'regonna get, like, the full thing.
So we're gonna get, like, thealbum cover, release date, and everything.
So right now we have nothingbut the title and, like, the color
scheme, which is like a mintytealish green and then orange, which
(20:23):
we've been suspended for,like, the past two years, basically,
so we've done something right.
And she's been hinting at this.
Oh, another thing about thecolor palette.
So do you remember how shechanged the 1989 outfits?
So it's like mismatched top, bottom?
Well, one of them was.
(20:44):
I don't remember if it wasgreen on top and orange on the bottom
or orange on top and green onthe bottom.
But she did wear the app twice.
I'm not sure what the twodates were, but I do know that she
wore it once, and then 112days later, she wore the exact outfit.
And that means that she's beenhinting at the outfit basically since
(21:07):
right after TTPD came out.
So, like, before the middle oflast year to, like, the end of the
tour.
So this has been a thing for avery long time, as we can tell.
And she's been wearing thiscolor palette.
We thought it was gonna beorange and purple, and I think we
might have guessed a littlebit of green, but now we know for
(21:28):
sure that it was definitelyorange and green, which she's been,
like, wearing those colors onrepeat for a very long time now.
So that's really exciting.
And we also have more things.
Okay.
So the most important thingright now is that we don't know anything
about the album except for the name.
But we do know now becauselast night in Times Square, they
(21:51):
had a big billboard of, like,one of the Spotify QR codes.
But it's not like the QR code.
It's like the scan thing thatleads you to a song, but it led us
to a playlist called this.
What's it called, Baby, thisis show business or something.
I don't know.
(22:12):
Close to that.
I can't remember because I gotit wrong the first time with the
heart emoji that we thoughtwas going to be the album.
So we know that's the album.
The heart emoji now, the heartwith the flames.
And we kind of know the theme,and we also know that it's gonna
be a pop album because thisplaylist was all songs, was 22 songs,
(22:35):
all produced by Max Martin or shellback.
So we know pretty much nowthat the whole album is going to
be a Shellback Max Martin album.
And the playlist is 22 minutesand an hour and 20.
It's 22 songs in an hour and22 minutes.
So it's something to do with22 too.
And the first song was 22.
It's in alphabetical order.
The playlist is inalphabetical order.
(22:57):
So that's basically wherewe're at now.
There's also some theoriesthat it's gonna be like, a collab
album with all of, like, thepeople that she's, like, played with,
especially Sabrina Carpenter,because, well, there's like, a few
things.
So first of all, somewhere onher website, there's a thing that
says August 13th.
I know that somewhere.
(23:19):
I don't know.
But the most important thingis that on NOLA Night 2, they performed
together, and Taylor waswearing her.
First of all, Taylor waswearing the orange surprise song
dress, which is super important.
And she called.
She whipped out her phone inthe middle of the show, and she calls
Sabrina Carpenter, and she'slike, sabrina, where are you?
(23:40):
Is there, like, any chance,like, it's like, you know what I'm
saying?
As, like, a joke.
She's like, is there anychance that you can, like, come over
here and play with me?
And she was like, okay, put onsome clothes and come over.
Put on some clothes is super,super important.
Okay?
Because five days ago, Sabrinaposted a post, and it was like, her
next to, like, some, like, clothes.
(24:00):
Like a clothesline with, like,clothes hanging on it.
And it said, put on some clothes.
Oh.
Huh.
And that's really important.
And guess what photo was thelast photo in Taylor Nation's post
that was spiking a lot of stuff.
Remember that post with the 12photos, all orange?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The last photo was a photofrom that night of them performing
(24:21):
together.
Oh, okay.
So this is gonna be like ataborina collab.
Probably.
Probably.
Mostly.
Wait, what's her name?
Sabrina.
Sabrina.
She also has a new albumcoming out very soon.
I'm not sure.
Isn't that very exciting?
Yeah, it's cool.
I'm very excited.
(24:41):
I have to start makingfriendship bracelets.
Okay.
The life of a show girl.
Nice.
Oh, wait, there's one more thing.
Another pointing to, like, thecollab in general is that I don't
know if it was yesterday, itmight have been today.
Stevie Nicks posted a videobecause she's like, an upcoming song
single.
(25:03):
I'm just.
No, she's like an upcomingsingle, I think with someone else.
And it was like a video aboutthat, but it was like, in a car and
like, it said August 13, whichis tomorrow when everything's gonna
happen.
So we're very excited, aren't we?
Yeah, Very, very excited.
Cool.
I'm hoping we get a releasedate tomorrow.
(25:25):
Yeah.
What if she just releases it?
I'd be happy.
She might.
I mean, why?
She wrote it and then shetold, like, place a week before she
released it.
Why play games?
(25:45):
Do you ever get nervous thather it's not going to be as good
as the last thing.
I do get very nervous.
Yeah, I do.
I got very nervous withtorture poets.
Yeah.
But I was not disappointed.
Yeah.
Although I'm a little bit morenervous because I'm not.
Not very.
I'm not a pop girly.
I'm more of like a folklore Evermore.
(26:05):
Yeah.
Type vibes.
I'm more of like an AaronDestner collab.
Yeah.
But I mean, don't we all love 1989?
Yes.
1989 is a masterpiece.
It's fantastic.
So we get our nineteen nine sister.
(26:27):
Very exciting.
Yay.
Cool.
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