Cosmic Love, Sloppy Kisses, and the Good Life "John Mark McMillan"

In this soul-stirring episode, we sit down with musician and songwriter John Mark McMillan, whose iconic song “How He Loves” has touched millions across the world. We talk about music as spiritual connection, the grief that shaped his most powerful lyrics, and his unexpected role as a guide back toward God.

John Mark opens up about the tension between faith and mystery, the controversy around a “sloppy wet kiss,” and what it means to embrace your whole story — even the broken, unflattering, and unexplainable parts. From discussing the creative process to exploring transcendence, we get personal, honest, and hopeful.

Whether you're religious, spiritual, deconstructing, or just a fan of raw conversations, this episode reminds us that God might not be far off — but woven into everything, and that music has a unique power to make us feel seen, loved, and less alone.

“The good life has always been with me.” – John Mark McMillan