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April 16, 2025 65 mins

Creativity isn't just something we do—it's fundamentally who we are as mothers and birthing people. This profound insight emerges throughout my conversation with Carla, a visual artist who uses her gifts to help mothers reconnect with their innate power after birth.

Carla's personal journey through two dramatically different birth experiences—from a disconnected hospital birth to an empowered home birth during a hurricane—reveals how our bodies hold wisdom that conventional systems often ignore. When providers changed shifts during her first labor and pronounced she had regressed from 6cm to 2.5cm dilation, Carla felt her birthing energy fracture. Later, when her baby was taken away immediately after birth due to complications, she experienced a disruption in their early bonding that took intentional healing to restore.

These experiences catalyzed her transformation from teaching art to children to creating healing spaces for mothers. The "belly bowls" she creates—clay vessels formed directly on pregnant women's bellies—serve as powerful ritual objects honoring the transition to motherhood. Through her studio aptly named "The Ladies' Entrance," she facilitates creative healing for women navigating birth, trauma, and the complex identity shifts of motherhood.

What makes this conversation particularly valuable is Carla's nuanced understanding of how we heal energetically as well as physically. Her holistic pelvic care work views the pelvic bowl as both physical structure and energetic center—a container of creativity, intuition, and relationship. By using art to access this wisdom center, she helps women reconnect with themselves after trauma, birth, or other life transitions.

Whether you're pregnant, postpartum, or simply interested in the intersection of creativity and healing, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on how we might reclaim our power through artistic expression. What creative tools might help you connect more deeply with your maternal wisdom? Listen and discover how art might transform your motherhood journey.

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Are you ready?
Let's get into it.
Welcome to Maternal WealthPodcast.
Today we have Carla.
She reached out to me a coupleweeks ago.

(01:21):
She sent me a message onInstagram and she said to me
quote I am an artist and a momwho uses creativity to help moms
connect to their superpowers.
After I read that, I was likeyes, we need to connect Carla.
Welcome to the podcast.
Thank you so much.

Carla Beatrice (01:50):
I'm so glad you're here Me too I'd like for
you to start off by sharing withus a little bit about yourself
before you became a mom Ooh,before I became a mom.
Okay, that takes me back tobeing super little.
I always knew I wanted to be anartist, so I did end up going
to art school and I've alwaystaught as well, always done some

(02:10):
kind of teaching with kids,always loving art, and did a lot
of work in the community BeforeI became a mom, working for the
Philadelphia Mural Arts Program.
Philly was the city where I wasin my college years.
I'm from the Boston area andthen I got married, moved out to
Portland, Oregon, and now Ihave two kids and I came back to
Massachusetts.

Stephanie Theriault (02:31):
Tell us about when you first found out
you were pregnant with yourfirst child.

Carla Beatrice (02:36):
I remember, oh my goodness, I was living in
Portland Oregon, Portland Oregon.
And yeah, I remember, Iremember taking the test for
sure, you know, seeing the theline on the on the pregnancy
test.
I do remember telling myhusband well, I remember that
moment we were in the kitchen so, yeah, I mean, it was just a

(02:59):
super, super exciting moment.
I always knew that I wantedchildren.
That was always something forsure that I wanted.
How?

Stephanie Theriault (03:07):
was that first pregnancy for you?

Carla Beatrice (03:09):
I was blessed to be in a community of I'm from
Massachusetts.
We went out to Portland Oregon.
We had no family around, but myblock was like everybody.
It was like magic Everybody onthe block.
We were friends with all theneighbors.
There were young children,there were people, you know,

(03:29):
just starting families.
So I was so lucky to be like mywhole community was on my block
.
So I definitely had, you know,I had.
There was a doula on my block.
There was a woman who worked atPlanned Parenthood on my block.
I was also the kind of personthat I sought out information.

(03:52):
I knew like, okay, this iswhat's on my mind, this is how I
want to go about things.
I've always been that justcurious and gathering
information, and it's differentin Portland Oregon too.
I think there's much more, somany more alternatives out there
that I was not exposed to whenI was living on the East Coast.

(04:13):
I mean, they're there on theEast Coast, but out in Portland
there was just a lot of justalternatives and alternative
approaches and it was everywhere.
So it was easy for me to accesswhat I was looking for while I
was pregnant with my first child.

Stephanie Theriault (04:29):
When you say alternatives, what do you
mean?

Carla Beatrice (04:32):
Well, there's a high there's a lot of people
that do home births out there.
I think Portland Oregon haslike the highest percentage of
home births.
You know prenatal yoga, just alot of naturopathic doctors, you

(04:59):
know holistic approaches, a lotof Okay.
I forget if the group was likePortland moms, but they're
showing them all thealternatives, kind of like I
don't know just more a naturalsort of being okay with just
breastfeeding in public andthings like that.
And it's so funny because whenI did come back to Boston I
hadn't been back in so long andI was like it feels very

(05:21):
different.
Here too, I call PortlandOregon.
My former husband and I werejust always like, yeah, it's a
bubble out there.
So yeah, and I was exposed toand that's where I was first
introduced to, tammy Lynn, kentand Wild Feminine, and that was
a book that I read.
That was, you know about morejust discussing the wisdom of

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women's bodies and ability tobirth.
I was reading Ina May Gaskintoo, who was a person that was a
leader in midwifery and homebirthing.

Stephanie Theriault (05:57):
Speaking of all the alternative aspects of
maternal care, prenatal care,I'm curious to hear about what
you decided to do for the laborand birth of your first child.

Carla Beatrice (06:09):
Yeah, so for my first child I had a hospital
birth through nurse midwives.
So the program I went to wasall nurse midwives.
So for me it was at thebeginning anyway I felt like, oh
, this made the most sense to me, even though I was definitely
interested in home birthing.
Like I said, I have a doula onmy block, a woman who had two

(06:33):
home births, and I also had awoman on my block who had a
regular hospital birth.
So I knew what all the optionswere and for me, having a nurse
midwife care in a hospital, thatwas that's where I started.
And then, interestingly, like Isaid, I was reading Ida May
Gaskin, I was reading WildFeminine, or you know.

(06:54):
I was interested in, you know,natural birth.
I took a birthing from withinclass and I remember and I
catered my my appointments tohave the same nurse midwife at
every single appointment andthis nurse midwife, a friend of
mine, had her for her birth andshe's like, oh, betsy, she's
amazing.
I'm like great.
I met with her the first timeand then I decided I wasn't

(07:16):
going to follow the hospitalrules, which were every time you
go for a prenatal visit theysay they want you to see all the
midwives, because you neverknow who's going to be there
when you give birth.
And I was like, no, I'm keepingthe same ones.
So I got to know her, she gotto know me and it just felt

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better and that's what I wanted.
And I remember I was gettingclose.
I think I was in 30 weeks, Ithink it was 32 weeks, and I
said I'm reading Ida Mae Gaskinand I'm like what's the
difference between what I'mreading in that book versus what
it's like in the hospital?
And Betsy was like it isnothing like that.
And I'm like, so she workedwith me and she, you know, then

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you take the hospital tour.
And I remember taking thehospital tour and I was like, oh
boy, I'm like this doesn't.
There was just something aboutit that I was just like I'm not,
I'm not sure I want to givebirth in the hospital anymore.
So at like 30 weeks I waslooking at birth centers and
like a different thing, I waslike I think I want a birth at
home.
In the end I stayed having thehospital birth with the midwives

(08:23):
.
And you know, at the time, likeeverybody says, like you can
have a birth plan, but you neverknow how it's going to go Right
and I think, as first time momswe always try to or I'll just
speak for myself it's like, okay, this is my idea of what I want
and I have no idea what I'mgetting into, but I'm doing all
this preparation for it.
And I decided, you know, and Italked to some close people, I'm

(08:47):
like, what do I do?
And the advice I got thatreally stuck with me was like
you're having a baby and you atthe, at the end, you will, you
will have your baby Right andthink about you know.
So I was like, ok, I'm going tobe able to do, I'm going to
stick with the hospital birthCause it was a little bit, um,

(09:08):
yeah, there were just a bunch ofdifferent reasons that at that
time, um, I made that decisionand, as you know, as they say,
your birth goes how it goes, andyou know.
And then afterwards, I meanthere isn't just.
I think one thing as a pregnantmom I remember from my personal
experience was you do so muchpreparing, preparing, preparing,

(09:30):
but there's no real whathappens afterwards while you're
pregnant and preparing, like youdon't get that information.
You're doing all this frontloading of the pregnancy and the
birth, but what I feel like ismissing in a lot of that
information.
Maybe it's because you knowyou're excited and all that, but

(09:51):
I think what a lot of what'smissing is like, no, you know
what Breastfeeding is.
You know it's not just easypeasy, like there can be
challenges there.
Or you know your yourpostpartum time, like I think I
remember, like you hear, like,oh, postpartum depression.
But at the time when you'rejust giving birth, that you're
on, you're like it doesn'treally sink in.

(10:12):
I think about what life is likeafter the baby's here.
And I remember, you know, justwith my birth, which was
challenging I don't want this tosound wrong in any way, but I
remember telling someone like itwas easier to love my baby and
be attached to my baby and doeverything with my baby while my
baby was still inside of me.
And then, when my baby was outin the world and crying and I'm

(10:37):
trying to figure out what to do,I'm like I know I signed up for
this and it's just it's so hardafterwards.
And so, again, I was superlucky I had a community to help
me afterwards and just sort ofhelp me sort out all those
feelings that can come up.
And I had a neighbor who hadpostpartum depression and so I

(11:01):
understood better from herexperience.
We shared, women share.
Like we talked about all of iton my block, so I never felt
alone.
I did feel supported for sure.

Stephanie Theriault (11:12):
I'm glad you had that community on your
block to support you in thepostpartum time.
It can be difficult and it's arecurring theme that I hear I've
experienced myself.
It's a recurring theme that Ihear I've experienced myself.
So thank you for sharing that,because one of the points of the
podcast is for us to share therealities of what we're feeling
postpartum, bring awareness tothose who are pregnant or trying

(11:37):
to get pregnant of therealities that can present
postpartum.
So thank you for sharing.

Carla Beatrice (11:42):
Yeah, I mean that's yeah, it's real, it's
really real.
And I'll I'll never, everforget, Like remember I was
telling you about, like Iremember getting the, you know,
seeing the pregnancy tests inthat moment.
And I also will never forgetthe moment I was with my, my
firstborn, who was probably likethree or four months old, maybe
five, I don't know not likebaby, like still like a baby,

(12:05):
and I went out my front door andthen I saw this little note
that was stuck in my front doorand I was like what is this?
Like?
Someone left me a note.
I opened up the note and it wasfrom my neighbor, saying moms
are getting together at my house, come join us.
And I didn't know, like I said,we were like a young block and

(12:30):
I went, you know, to her houseand there were other moms there.
I swear I call them myKellogg's angels.
I lived on Kellogg street and sowe went to this mom's house and
she was like the mom on theblock who, at the time, you know
, had the um.
There was just, you know, theability to record shows and

(12:53):
watch them.
It wasn't like full timestreaming like we have now or
whatever, and we record.
And so we had a mom's gatheringwhere we watched each other's
babies.
We brought food.
It was like a potluck and wewatched Project Runway together
and that was like our you know,like you know that there's like

(13:15):
a meme, that's like you knowwhat.
What really turns on a mom orsomething is like when their
partner, their partner, is likevacuuming for them or whatever,
and cleaning up the house.
Like that was our, that was ourlike, oh my God, like super
indulgence time.
We got together.
Somebody else had their eyes onmy child.

(13:35):
I got to watch, like ChristianSiriano, like make these
beautiful dresses out of trash.
That was the Project Runwaytime, like the very beginning of
Project Runway, and for us,like that was our creative space
, like our creative gathering.
Like way back when, it was likemoms sitting around the fire or
whatever.
Right, this was our mom sittingaround project runway, Our

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babies were our babies and wecould go to that and just be
like man.
I did not sleep all night longand we're like, uh-huh, we got
you.
I got my eyes on your kid foryou.
And so there was a group of us,a group of these little kids,
and that was my saving grace andthat's what really helped me,

(14:18):
too, to make the changes that Iknew I needed to make once I
became a mom.

Stephanie Theriault (14:23):
I want to hear your birth story for your
first child.
I'm curious.
I know you had a nurse midwife.
Did you go in for an induction?
Did you go into labor?
Talk us through your birthstory, sure.

Carla Beatrice (14:35):
No, I went, I went into, I went in naturally,
and the thing was the.
The first thing that surprisedme when I went in was that the
person that was on duty then,the person I'd never met before,
wasn't even part of the nursemidwife practice that I was

(14:58):
going through through thehospital.
So immediately I'm like I don'tknow you.
But I was like, okay, okay,we'll do it.
And then they changed shiftsand everybody keeps asking you
the exact same question, eventhough you've said it 10 million
times, like what's your name?
And da, da, da, da.
I had one thing that was big atthe time too was a water birth,

(15:21):
and I liked this hospitalbecause they had tubs.
They would let you labor in thetub, but you couldn't give
birth in the tub.
So I did, you know, I did that,I got to go in the tub.
But then and I was like youknow, progressing, whatever but
then you know they also come inand check you.
And then I got startled becauselike, again, you know you're in
your mom world, right, and thebirthing experience.

(15:42):
And then somebody came in, Iheard the voice.
I said, okay, I'm going tocheck you.
But then when this personchecked me to see, you know how
much I had dilated, you know,before I was at.
The last time they checked me Iwas at six, six centimeters,
six and a half.
This woman came, checked meshe's like you're two and a half
, and I was like what, and likeI immediately came out of my

(16:06):
like birthing you know field, mybirth field.
I was like what I was six and ahalf Like, and here I was
thinking I was like getting, Iwas getting further along.
She said nope, you're two and ahalf.
You've been, you've beenlaboring for a really long time.
You need to get an epidural.
This is, you know, and I wasjust like like I was just jarred

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and I remember saying get thisperson out of the room.
Yeah, I remember saying that.
And so that was like my sort ofa big pivotal moment and I was
hoping to have a natural birthand I didn't want to have an
epidural.

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And it was that time, you know,like the sort of crisis moment
where I'm like, okay, what do Ido.
That's when I wish I had adoula in the room.
I figured I didn't need a doulabecause I had nurse midwives
attending me.
You know I was like, oh well,I'm having nurse midwives.
So I don't, I don't feel like Ineed a doula and at the time,

(17:11):
you know, I had my then husbandand my mom there as well.
So I thought they were enoughof like my support team, you
know, like that's, that's how Iwent into it.
So I went into this realinternal crisis of what do I do.
You know, I want to turn thisaround.
But I also said, like I said,okay, you can go get the

(17:32):
anesthesiologist right.
However, internally, I was likeI want to turn this around for
myself, like I don't want that,and so in some ways, it's kind
of good, right, so it takes avery long time for them to get
the anesthesiologist to show up.
Or maybe my time warp was allweird, because your time is all
weird, but I went to like all myresources and all my things

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that I remembered and I did this.
You know, visualization of mybaby, opening, you know, and I
was saying the word like openand visualizing and all of that.
And so by the time theanesthesiologist came, I had
come back to like not needing itanymore.

(18:18):
Actually, no, I think maybethat's when I said get the
person out of the room.
Yeah, great, I think, becauseat that time there was, you know
, I was like in a better spot.
I had, like I had regained Iguess the you know what I mean,
like the to where I was before Ihad regained.
I guess the you know what Imean, like the to where I was
before.
And, of course, post birth, youknow, I realized what had
happened, like as I understoodmy birth story, more, so, yeah,

(18:41):
so then things progressed moreand then, but then to the very
close to the end, there was amoment where all of a sudden and
they're like the cords wrappedaround the child's neck, and so
I did have a moment where allthe doctors came in, everybody
came around, they put the oxygenon me and all that, and so the

(19:04):
very end of the birth.

Stephanie Theriault (19:04):
It was challenging and scary when you
say the end of the birth andthen they put the oxygen on you.
Is this when your child wasstill inside, or is this like
immediate?

Carla Beatrice (19:13):
birth.
It was while, I guess becausethe cord was.
I mean, this is myunderstanding, right?
I can't tell you, I actually dohave the records.
I didn't look, but this was myunderstanding.
Like when I was, as the birthingperson in the room, the cord
was wrapping around the baby'sneck, so they needed to quickly
get the baby out and they putoxygen on me and did whatever
they do.

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Like it turned into, you know,like everybody was around and I
just heard beeping and I saw allthese faces and masks and I was
like, oh my God, what's goingon?
And they were like, um, andthen they were telling me not to
push Cause I was going to hurtthe baby if I pushed.
But my body, naturally, wasdoing what it was doing, right,

(19:54):
and so I got super scaredbecause I'm like, because they
said I'm like, I don't want tohurt my baby, you know, and my
baby was born, they werecounting me through whatever,
like pushing and all that stuff.
I don't remember exactly,because you know your body's
doing what your body's doing,and as soon as he was born, I
didn't see him at all.

(20:14):
I barely saw him.

Stephanie Theriault (20:17):
And somebody said take him away.

Carla Beatrice (20:20):
And then my husband went out with the baby,
like out of the room.
So I guess you know they do allthe tests and stuff to make
sure the baby's breathing andall that.
So I never got the put the babyon the mom's chest thing, I

(20:45):
just I just got taken away.
I was like where's my baby?

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Carla Beatrice (21:49):
And then I also had to get stitches afterwards
because I had some tearing andso it was quite some time.
It was like, maybe, like in mymind again, timing is all weird
but I had to wait, I had to havestitches and I had to wait
until after they stitched and Icould feel the stitches a lot
because I hadn't.

(22:10):
Whatever they gave me didn'twork, and then my baby came in,
but it wasn't until, like I feellike, 20 minutes later or half
an hour.
You know what I mean.
But yeah, that was my birthstory.
I did get my baby at the end,even though it was 20 minutes.

Stephanie Theriault (22:29):
it stays with you, right, yeah, right.
Even though you get your babyback, those 20 minutes that
you're separated kind of alwaysstays with you.
Right, yeah, Right.
Even though you get your babyback, those 20 minutes that
you're separated kind of alwaysstays with you.

Carla Beatrice (22:38):
Oh, yeah, it.
It was definitely like I didn'trealize it at the time, you
know.
So this was 17 years ago, butthat was for me, it was a.
It was a birth trauma.
It was a traumatic experience.
The birth was a birth traumaand I had previous trauma before

(23:00):
giving birth and a lot of timesand this is what I've learned
through my work you know, thingscan get triggered with your
body when you're in a situationlike the birth field is just so.
It's just such a vulnerabletime of opening and that that is

(23:21):
why, like, my body closed upwhen the nurse came in to check
me, because I didn't feel safe,you know, and so, and again,
like these things didn't.
I didn't understand thesethings until afterwards, but
once again, I had you know, andso, and again, like these things
didn't.
I didn't understand thesethings until afterwards, but
once again, I had, you know,support around that.
But what I feel like is that somany moms go into this birth

(23:42):
experience.
But we need to love and supportthe moms afterwards to help
them, to help them heal andunderstand, like this wasn't
their fault or their body, thisor that.
You know what I mean.
Like I, for one, felt a lot ofshame, for I remember this too.
I was like one of those momentsI was at one time I was very

(24:03):
vocal, I was loud in the birthand I was very aware that there
was three other rooms and otherbirthing mothers around me.
And I remember when I finallygot my baby and they put me in
the wheelchair and they werewheeling me out right to my room

(24:24):
, I was like I'm so sorry, I wasso loud, I'm so sorry, I was
apologizing, and you know I feltbad about in that moment.
I felt bad for screaming andbeing loud and be like you know,
whatever, whatever it was thatI need, that I needed to do, you
know, to get me through thatexperience.

(24:46):
So then by the time I was in myroom, the nurse midwife he was
the first one on duty that Iwent into and I I'm like I don't
know you at all, cause hewasn't part of the nurse midwife
program, he was back on shiftor whatever he's like, oh, so
how'd it go?
And he took longer than wethought, because that nurse
midwife said to me you'reprogressing, this is, we're
going to have this baby bornbefore the next day.

(25:06):
That did not happen, right?
So that was like a positiveencouragement, that one, that
guy I liked he was being amidwife, you know, and, and then
he heard what happened,whatever.
And then he comes back and he'slike, so, how, you know, I
understand, and I was like, youknow, I just felt so bad because
I was so loud and he said to mewhat you think you're the only

(25:28):
birthing person who's ever madesound, you know like, and I'm
like you know, and I'm like,yeah, you're right, like
absolutely Like he was, he washelped me, like he wasn't there
and that's the thing.
Like in the hospital they keepchanging shifts and there's
different people coming in andout.
Like I and my full my firstintention was, or wish, was like
I want the person who I'mconnecting to all throughout my

(25:49):
prenatal to be the one that'sthere when I'm giving birth.
I would have felt, I know, youknow hindsight's 20, 20, but I
know things would have beendifferent if I had called my
midwife and if she had beenthere, the one that I had known
the whole time, who wasdefinitely comforting me and
helping me, and the thing wasshe actually like broke the
rules and she gave me her phonenumber and she said to me Carla,

(26:11):
if at any time when you're inthe hospital giving birth, you
call me, you know, and becauseshe knew, she told me about the
birth world and she was like andshe was actually exiting it
because she had a lot ofchallenges with you know, she
wanted to be able to be morelike a home birth midwife, you

(26:32):
know, and she was like a veterana veteran, She'd been in the
field for so long.
So, you know, had I called her,I know my birth would have been
different if she was the onethere with me the whole entire
time Hands down.
I know that, you know, but thatwas the birth I definitely had
and I, you know, I grew so muchfrom that experience and it led

(26:57):
me to, absolutely positively,I'm like next baby I had, I am
having a home birth and I did.

Stephanie Theriault (27:19):
I appreciate that you're
recognizing the fact that theconnection that a woman makes
with their midwife or theirbirth provider throughout the
prenatal period is so essentialin having a positive, empowering
birth.
That connection you're creatinga sense of safety, a sense of
sisterhood, of love, nurturing,and it's so vital in the current

(27:42):
system that exists in thehospital and rotating all the
providers.
That's missing.
And I appreciate that you'rebringing that up because even in
your story you're acknowledgingthe fact, you're saying out
loud, with your voice If I hadthat midwife who wanted to be
there for me, my experiencewould have been different.

(28:04):
So thank you for sharing thatbecause it is so vital and I
want women to hear that message.

Carla Beatrice (28:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you learn.
Want women to hear that message.
Yeah, yeah, I mean you learn.
It's like there's likeespecially for first time moms.
Like you know there's, there'sonly you can learn and and.
But you also learn through yourexperience of birth, right,
like we do all these things toprepare because we don't know
what to expect, and then, likeyou can learn just as much or

(28:31):
grow, or you know heal, heal.

Stephanie Theriault (28:36):
Yeah.

Carla Beatrice (28:38):
After the birth too, like I learned so much more
about myself and then I appliedthat to my next birth and I
think I hear this often.
Like you know, if a woman has atraumatic first birth, it can
often be healing to have asecond birth.
Like the healing can happenLike the like.
If you think of like the circleyou know of the birth and and

(29:03):
the cycle of birth, one birthcan also help heal another birth
and I hear stories about thatlike all the time.
And I was able to do healingwith my firstborn from that
traumatic birth.
After the birth, and I thinkwomen need to know that for sure
that you can reenter that birthfield, reenter the birth energy

(29:25):
.
You don't have to go throughthe trauma again.
You can work and heal it.
Yeah, and you can heal.
What happened to me was, sincemy baby wasn't placed on my
chest right away, I felt therewas a disconnection, there was a
fracture in the birth energybecause it's a loop and the loop

(29:45):
wasn't able to go all the waythrough when my baby was first
born and, like I said, I washaving challenges with nursing
and breastfeeding.
Part of that was because therewas a fracture.
I didn't feel the connection tomy baby and I was like what's
going on here?
I'm supposed to love my childat first sight.
You know, like my ex-husbandwas like, oh my God, I've never
been so in love at the firstsight.

(30:06):
You know, like this is likekind of what.
We're here, right, and I'm likewhat's wrong with me?
I don't feel that.
Of course I love my, it's mychild, I love my child
Absolutely, but there was aconnection piece that had was
missing because I wasn't with mybaby the first, however long,
and this is part of my story too.

(30:27):
But the what?
The first words I heard wasit's a boy.
And so I was like, my body waslike, oh, I had a, I had a boy.
And I thought, I thought I hada girl.
Like I didn't, we didn't, wechose not to have the sex
revealed to us, but I just had afeeling I was, I had a girl,
and so I think that was part of,you know, my like.
There was like this, like now,like again, I can say like later

(30:47):
on, you know.
So my body was confused becausethen, before I got my baby back
, the pediatrician on call cameand was like oh, congratulations
on your baby girl and I waslike I told her I'm like no, I
had a boy.
So like so, for the first 20 orwhatever how long, while I was

(31:08):
going through the stitches, likeall that I thought I had a boy.
And she's like no, and I'm likeand, of course, boy.
And she's like no.
And I'm like and of course sheleaves Cause, she's all like
there.
I mean, there's so in thehospital, what's your name?
And they put your thing onthere, like what, to make sure
there was no like baby switchingor whatever going on.
And and she went out andchecked and she came back and

(31:29):
she's like no, I just checked,you have a girl.
And I'm like okay, so goingthrough that as a mom, you know
that postpartum, like stage oflike bonding with your baby and
there's so much that is going on.
Like moms need so muchnurturing you know it takes a
village.
Like moms need other moms.
You know, like I said, I feltshame for being loud.

(31:51):
You know I I didn't understand.
Like you know, we all had ourbirth stories, but I had my
group of moms, I had my projectrunway peeps, where I know it
was a safe place.
We told our stories.
That was where the healinghappens.
Healing happens when you'refeeling safe because we walk
into a birthing situation, we'rebringing into that birth

(32:18):
situation all of us and givingbirth is the most vulnerable
thing that a woman you know.
It's that you need safetyaround you.
You need the people that aregoing to hold you and not
disrupt the birth energy in thebirth field.
Like I know, I'm using termslike birth energy.

(32:38):
Birth field like this goes withmy sort of training in the
holistic pelvic care and allthat.
Um but it and this was this wasall stuff that I was.
That was part of myunderstanding and my desire of
wanting to give birth naturally.

Stephanie Theriault (33:05):
All right.
So you had your birth at thehospital and I previously you
mentioned the next time I'mgoing to have a home birth.
Did that happen for you?

Carla Beatrice (33:15):
Yes.

Stephanie Theriault (33:17):
Yes, it did .
I know you have a little bit ofa cool story to share with us.
I'm excited for our listenersto hear your home birth story
for your second child.

Carla Beatrice (33:25):
Now you've got my interest peaked because I'm
like, oh you know, life happensright and I, my family, left
Portland Oregon.
We moved back to Massachusetts.
I was eight months pregnant.
I knew I wanted a home birth,had to find a home birth midwife

(33:49):
pretty quickly, it'sinteresting.
So this time I didn't have.
I had like three prenatal,three appointments before my
home birth.
But I call it my homeless homebirth because I still hadn't
found a place for us to live.
I was living with my mom.
While we were going through themove, my husband was still
needing to finish up work.
I moved here with my kid.

(34:11):
I did that, but I did thethings that moms do, right, the
nesting, the nesting.
It was like, okay, get to it,find your home birth midwife.
And I did.
And immediately I interviewedlike three people.
One day when my husband had hisjob interview here like he was,
you know, and I knew right awayI'd sit down.

(34:35):
I talked with each one of them.
They were all wonderful,amazing people, but I knew right
away which was the one that Ifelt the most comfortable with
and connected to and she wasamazing.
And we talked about my previousbirth and we just went through
it all.
We went through what I wanted,how I was feeling, and I told

(34:56):
her about my history of trauma.
I don't even think I've evensaid it like yet in this
interview.
I have a history of incest andchildhood sexual abuse, so she
knew all of that.
And the birth was so different.
And I think part of it too wasbecause when my first birth I

(35:17):
was more in general, going intothe birth, more detached from my
body, from my trauma, and thenthe experience of having my
first child opened up thattrauma and exposed it and I
worked with it.
So in my second birthexperience I was already more
attached to my child rightThroughout the pregnancy, like

(35:41):
of course I was attached to myfirst one, but the second one
was different because I had adifferent relationship with my
body at that time from havinggone through the first birth.
So I was more able to attune tonot only sort of like, say the
words, like open or, you know,imagine it Like I was able to
actually feel it more, if thatmakes any sense, like I felt.

(36:01):
That connection of like I wasnot like the the idea is you're
birthing with your child whenyou're giving birth Like there
was a relationship between meand my baby in while we were
birthing Right, and I didn'thave that understanding the
first time, you know it wasn'tso much there, it was there on

(36:24):
the intellectual level but notas much on that body level, if
that makes sense.
And so, just having had thefirst birth experience, having
done more work with my trauma,my sexual trauma and
understanding healing, it reallydid feel like it was a
co-birthing experience with mysecond son and it was completely

(36:45):
different and I mean Iunderstood too.
There was less fear and therewas a lot more safety.
It was a fast birth.
It was not a scary birth, likemy body knew what to do.
I was more in touch with mybody and I knew my body knew
what to do.
I had more confidence in myself.
It was amazing it was, and hewas born in somebody else's

(37:08):
house Because I didn't have aplace to live and my mom was
like there is no way you'redoing home birth in my house,
which you know I respected mymom and my mom took care of, you
know, my son while I was insomebody else's house giving

(37:29):
birth, and this time it was onlymy husband that was there and
yeah, and I got, I had my babyright there, right away.
You know, he was put on mychest, you put on my chest and
there was actually a hurricanehappening outside.

Stephanie Theriault (37:43):
Did your midwife make it with?

Carla Beatrice (37:44):
the hurricane.
Well, yeah, the funny thing is,no, yeah, she made it.
She wasn't far away, butbecause I was birthing so
quickly, her backup midwife cameafter the birth.
She didn't make it.
Her backup midwife came afterthe birth, she didn't make it,

(38:07):
she came right at the very end.
That's what it was.
Here's another thing I'll neverforget.
It was only the next town over,but because there was a
hurricane, we wanted to get backto my mom's house.
We slept, so we slept over.
You know, my son was born in themiddle of the night, like at
2.30 in the morning, slept inthe next morning and then, of
course, you know I'm from, youknow, the Boston area, right?
So my son, my mom and my soncome to, you know, meet the new

(38:30):
baby with Dunkin' Donuts, withthe munchkins.
And I'm like, oh yeah, with themunchkins.
And I'm like, oh yeah, it wasso cute.
But we were there just for ashort time and then we hurried
up and got back to my mom'shouse and so then the owner of
the house was like I didn't evenget to see you, she was on
vacation.

(38:50):
She came back the next day andshe was hoping she'd kind of get
to be there and I'm like sorry.
So we rushed back home and yeah, and I really took to the
advice I got from my midwife inthe second birth of you know,
stay home with your baby as muchas you can.

(39:10):
You know, spend that as much asyou can.
And thankfully I did have I wasat my mom's house so my mom
could be with my, you know, withmy son and stuff, while I was
spending time with my second.
So it was interesting, yeah,and then we moved to, we finally
moved in, so he was born August27th and I think we moved

(39:31):
October 1st to our apartment.

Stephanie Theriault (39:33):
Yeah, After sharing your two birth stories,
one in the hospital, one athome, thinking about your work
as an artist, how did yourexperiences transform your

(39:57):
expression in art and your giftwith art to help heal other
women and mothers?

Carla Beatrice (40:03):
I was always on my personal journey of healing
from my sexual abuse and incesttrauma and I just knew, going
into pregnancy, that I was goingto need some extra support and
guidance and I had been teachingchildren art, lots of community
art, like I said, doingcommunity murals and teaching
kids by the time I had my firstchild and what I was going

(40:27):
through, and with the support ofthe other moms on my block, and
I went through what I called mymom's identity crisis with my
first child, because I was like,who am I?
What am I doing?
Because my husband was also anartist and we had had business
together and I realized I'm likemy child is not going to know
that I'm an artist because I'mnot doing my art right now, and

(40:52):
so I was like I just so.
It's a long story, but I'll tryto make it short.
So the flip was I'm no longerwanting to teach kids because
I've got kids.
I want to work with the momsand because moms need to be
supported.
We're we're fucking excuse me,I don't know if I should swear
on this we're amazing creativehuman beings.
Okay, we are creative humanbeings by, like our bodies, you

(41:16):
know, our, our creation.
We make the babies right.
And we need support.
And through the arts you know,project runway, that was a form
of using the arts to heal wegather around and we're
commenting on, oh, I wonder whattheir material they're going to
use this week.
And we're talking about thefashion and we're commenting on,

(41:37):
oh, I wonder what materialthey're going to use this week.
And we're talking about thefashion and we're talking about
the colors we like.
We're like little mini, notmini fashion designers, but
we're gathering in a creativeway and we're supporting each
other.
And so that's where the ladiesentrance, where my current
business that was the genesis ofit was right there, where I
started having moms coming overto my studio in Portland Oregon

(42:00):
and coming together and doingart together.
Like, come on, moms, like we,you know, let's do this kind of
thing.
I knew I needed to get back todoing my art, my art for myself,
as far as my own part ofidentity, and I also knew, as
far as the work I wanted to do,it was with moms and women and
pregnant women.
So the start of Ladies'Entrance happened in Portland.

(42:21):
Then I moved to Massachusetts.
Right, I should say too, thebelly bowls started in Portland,
oregon.
But anyway, when I was pregnantwith my second, I was still
within the young mother'scommunity, so I had mothers and
friends that I knew around mestill within the young mothers
community.
So I had mothers and friendsthat I knew around me and I to
help with that sort ofconnection.

(42:42):
I got this idea from taking thatclass of birthing from within,
but they, they incorporate artsinto that class and it's really
about honoring and mothering themother like that.
That part of that birthingcourse really stood out to me
and the you know the ideas alsoof having a mother ceremony,
like a mother way or a blessingway or, you know, a celebration

(43:05):
for the mom, right, because it'ssuch a transformational time
and you're going from maidenhoodto motherhood, right, right,
but honoring this, asked afriend of mine if I could make a
belly bowl, which was so I haveexperience in clay.
So we got together and I'mcreated a bowl on like I mean

(43:26):
you think of, you know, when youlike are in school and you
learn how to do like a coil pot,yeah, symbolism too with that.
So I made a coil pot on herpregnant belly as a way to honor
her, because at the timethere's different ways that
different people do.
I know sometimes people docasts like plaster, casts of

(43:47):
their bellies or something likethat.
But because I'm more earthynatural, I'm like I personally,
I'm like I would prefersomething of the earth to be,
you know, and I'm like clay isof the earth and plaster, you
know, is just a whole different.
I, just aesthetically, I waslike I wonder what it'd be like
to actually create a bowl, youknow, from the earth.

(44:07):
And so that's what I did.
I did a couple belly bowls and,did you know, created these
bowls and then I glazed them andthen the moms had these
precious keepsake of that time,of, you know, being connected
with their child while theirchild was in utero and and that
idea just sort of.

(44:28):
I remember too, I, I did a fewbelly bowls in Portland and then
I, when I came here toMassachusetts, you know, I was
like eight months pregnant orwhatever, and we needed to make
my own belly bowl, right, and Ialso do belly bowls with
families.
I've done it with people as agroup too.
So I remember we did my bellybowl in my mom's house.

(44:50):
It was the day before I wentinto labor, because my son came
a little early, right, I'm likethank God, but it was this
beautiful thing of my mom, myhusband at the time, my son,
three of us rolling out thesnakes and creating this bowl.
And then I asked my son how hewanted to label it and so we

(45:14):
wrote baby brother.
So yeah, because I remember Iinscripted like I wrote baby
brother on the bottom.
When I make the belly bowls formoms, you know we can write
whatever we want.
So, just going back to likeyour question about moms and
healing and art, so that allthat started in Portland, I came
here, I continue to do thebelly bowls.
I opened up the Ladies EntranceHolistic Art Studio, which is

(45:36):
for women, mothers and pregnantwomen.
I offer gatherings for mothersto connect through the arts.
I want it to be a safe place.
And you know, and it's amazing,I've done a lot of work with
groups and it's just amazing thepower of the group.
Um, when you have, when peoplefeel safe and they're in a group
, the healing that can happen isincredible.

(45:58):
And so that's what I do.
And once a month I offer acommunity come create night.
It's for anybody who identifiesas a woman, like all ages,
because I thinkmulti-generational is important
too.
So it's like mothers bring yourdaughters, like I invite
everybody to come together andcraft and or do art or talk, or

(46:25):
you know we have food.
I guess it's like my recreationof the Project Runway Nights and
yeah, and I also offer workthat's a little more specific
healing work energetically withI mentioned prior holistic
pelvic care, holistic pelvicenergy, which is a practice

(46:46):
developed by Tammy Lynn Kent whois from Portland, oregon.
At first I said you know I wasdoing that work there, but
actually I knew of the work andI read Tammy's book when I was
in Portland and then it wasafter I moved back to
Massachusetts that I went and Istudied with her so that I have
that training of, like I said,going back to those, that deeper

(47:08):
understanding of the creativityon an energetic level and the
birth process on the energeticlevel and what happens when
there's fractures and whenthere's interruptions in the
birth field and using wayscreatively of healing.
So I'm not a physicalpractitioner, I'm an artist who

(47:30):
can connect with people.
So I created ways to use thearts to invite a woman to have a
healing experience and that'swhat I do, that's getting into
the energy portraits and doingpelvic energy work and guiding
women through meditation forhealing.

Stephanie Theriault (47:47):
First I want to say I love the name of
your studio the Lady's Entrance.
It's just when I first read itit can mean so many things.
When I first read it, it canmean so many things and I love
how it's welcoming and alsoempowering and a powerful name
to it.
So I love that name that yougave for your studio.

Carla Beatrice (48:07):
Well, there's a story to that, there's a birth
story to everything, right,because creativity, like things
like a business, is a birthWomen don't know, women don't
need like this is the thing.
Like you know, we're allmothers.
Like, we all give birth tocreations, whether it's a
physical human being or whetherit's an entity like the business
, or you know all of that.

(48:29):
Like, I use mothering on thebroadest terms and we all mother
every single human being,regardless of your gender
identity, because we're talkingabout nurturing, right, but
anyway.
So, ladies' entrance I used tolive on top of a bar in South
Philadelphia and the ladies'entrance was the sign I went and

(48:50):
saw every single day while Iwas going up into my apartment,
because it was the rear entranceto the bar.
Right, it was way back in theday.
Right, you had to have.
The males had to enter thefront of the bar and the ladies
had to enter the back of the barand the ladies had to enter the
back of the bar because it waslike uncouth, right, or whatever
.
Like the ladies couldn't seethe men drinking and doing the

(49:10):
stuff they do at the bar.
They had to enter through theback and go in the back room and
get their service or whateverright, because there was that
big separation right Of men andwomen.
That one day this was back whenI was still in art school in
Philadelphia no, I had graduatedfrom art school, I was working
in the Philadelphia Mural ArtsProgram, but I was living with
my husband.
We were living together inSouth Philly before we moved to

(49:31):
Portland and one day I saw thesign.
The sign came down and it was ait's a hand-painted sign.
It was, you know, in Philly ifanything's out on the curb, it's
free.
It's free.
In Philly people will swipe ateverything.
So I saw the sign.
I'm like, oh my God, the ladiesentrance sign.
And I had no idea what I wasgoing to do with it.
I had no idea.
I'm just like this is a reallycool relic of history.

(49:51):
It's a hand-painted sign from Idon't know, probably the 1930s,
maybe I'm not sure.
So I took it.
I'm like this is a relic, it'sa piece of art, it's something
that says something abouthistory.
I had no idea what I was goingto do with it, I just thought it
was cool.
So for a couple of years it wasjust.
I put a light in it and it waslike I put my plants on it in my

(50:12):
apartment Like it was just thiscool thing, right.
But then, as again, like Icould talk about this forever.
I'll try to make it succinct,but as time goes by, I'm like
the lady's entrance is the mainentrance, right, we all enter
the world through the femalebody in any some way, shape or
form, right?
Yes, and I like to put theseideas on it, spin it on its head

(50:36):
, because, you know, we, thehonoring of women and everything
like women shouldn't be goingthrough the back door for
whatever reason, right, likewe're, you know we're, we gather
together, we're, we'reimportant, we, you know, we all,
every single human being has aconnection, whether it's good or
bad, to their mother, right,mm-hmm, every human being.

(51:18):
So, in my desire to make it's asort of like above ground
basement, but I always I justthink of, because I'm from
Boston, right, I grew up in the80s.
But Cheers, right, the Cheersbar, yes, and Carla the
bartender, and for whateverreason, and don't tell me I have

(51:39):
no idea but that Cheers song,even before the Ladies'
Endurance, even before I went toart school, whatever, I always
would hear, I have this thing ofhearing songs over and over.
They're just kind of likemessages.
The Cheers song has been withme in my life and I hear it all
the time.
Sometimes you want to go whereeverybody knows your name and

(51:59):
just that song and what thatsong represents, or cheers and
what it represents, like that.
That's what I want for thisbusiness.
Sometimes you want to go likethat feeling of community and
connection and where people telltheir stories at the bar.
I mean where how many peopletell their stories at a bar?

Stephanie Theriault (52:18):
Right, yeah , exactly.

Carla Beatrice (52:19):
And like I'm not serving I'm not serving, you
know, alcoholic drinks I I'mserving, but like I'm serving
art and opportunities forconnection.
And so I just love this sort ofidea of the ladies entrance
being like the ladies bar, in away right With the real, like it
was actually a real sign from areal bar and just yeah, there's

(52:41):
just so many meanings you could, you can add on to the ladies
on turn.

Stephanie Theriault (52:56):
I want to talk a little bit about the
holistic pelvic care for women.
So many times I find that theEnglish language limits us in
what we need to speak abouthealing and experiences,
especially relating tomotherhood and birth.
For anyone who's listening, whomight be interested in learning

(53:18):
more about holistic pelvic care, maybe they have seen a
physical therapist and they'vehad pelvic PT physical therapy,
but there's just something elseneeded that they can't even put
their finger on it.
Tell us a little bit more aboutthe holistic pelvic care that
you offer if somebody is moreinterested in learning about

(53:43):
what that is and how that mightbe beneficial for them.

Carla Beatrice (53:46):
Sure.
So most people understand likethe term holistic.
You know mind, body, spirit,and we've got a physical body
and there's physical tools wecan use right To help us connect
.
You know, like, if you you havea sore, if you're sore and you
get a massage and you can do aphysical massage to help ease

(54:15):
the aches and pains right inyour physical body, and there's
also a release that can happen,like a physical release with
that tight muscle or how you'refeeling.
You know, like they say, youknow there's, you know there's
this connection right, if youfeel things in your gut and your
body kind of gives you signsand signals that there's
something off right and you havethis feeling, you just know and

(54:37):
you know, but you don't knowhow you know, but you just have
this feeling or you have thisintuition or you have this, you
know this thing that you can'tshake Right, right.
So holistic pelvic care isdeveloped and created by Tammy
Lynn Kent, who's a women'shealth, physical therapist.
So, yes, her training is in thephysical, women's health and
pelvic floor PT.

(54:58):
So she works and trains, youknow, on the physical body but
also the energy body, ourenergetics.
So we all have like a creative,like the way that she taught me
that I just that made like somuch sense to me is like our
womb space.
Yes, it's have, you know, thepelvic bones right, the pelvic
structure, but think of yourwomb as a bowl space.

(55:21):
Or think of the womb as a nest,like the physical.
Think of a pelvic, you know thepelvic bones, like what it
creates is a bowl, because itholds your womb right In your
body, like it holds it.
The bowl, it's a container.
And so even, yes, we haveorgans we have, you know, but

(55:41):
our body is held up basically inthat space.
And if you think of the pelvicbowl as a nest and I do a lot of
work with that analogy andmetaphor of a nest, our nest,
what our intentions are, whatour feelings are, what our
experiences are, those are heldin our nest, in our pelvic bowl,

(56:02):
in our creative space.
And if we're talking energetics, in terms of energy centers,
the second chakra is that pelvicspace and that's the space for
creativity and the face ofrelationships, right, because we
have our sexual organs, likethere too.
So it's creativity andrelationship is held
energetically in that space.
Going back to holistic pelviccare, it's the combining of both

(56:24):
physical and energetic tools tocreate balance where there's
imbalance right.
Or to open things up wherethere's tightness, or to, you
know, heal fractures, right.
If there's something that's notsort of feeling, right, we go
from a dissonance to like aresonance that makes sense, like

(56:48):
think of, you know yin and yang, right, like everything.
So, like any one given day yourbowl could feel, it could feel
great one day, and then even inone day, and then you're like,
oh, something's off here, youknow.
And how can we tune in to thiswisdom, creative, intuitive
center that we all have?
Every human being and again,once again, not just like every

(57:09):
human being has it In malesthere's a different name for it
or different traditions thatcall it like the dantian, or
there's this other, butspecifically for women and the
female pelvis and the pelvicbowl, for those who are born as
female at birth, we can combinethese tools together.
And when you do holistic pelviccare, it doesn't have to be

(57:30):
physical work, like in thephysical.
If you went to like a pelvicfloor therapist, what you would
be doing, it's pelvic floormassage, really myofascial
release.
This is combining thatmyofascial release with you,
knowofascial release with you.
Know, if you had a session, aperson that does the hands-on
holistic pelvic care I would saywould bring you through a
guided meditation of like here,focus your thoughts here, right,

(57:53):
and we're combining sort of theenergetic qualities of the womb
space, the energetic qualitiesof the ovaries, and doing the
balancing and the clearing.
It combines meditation or justimagery, guided imagery with the
physical components.
So that's how I don't, I can'tsay I, I can't speak for people
who do straight pelvic floortherapy to to know you know

(58:16):
exactly what happens in asession with them.
But I can speak to what happensin a holistic pelvic care
session and I came into itthrough solely the energetics of
creativity, through theenergetic realm.
Being an artist, I draw theenergy actually is what I end up

(58:36):
doing.
I work with the energy bydrawing the energy because
physically I don't have thetraining as a physical therapist
or a chiropractor or anythinglike that.
So that's how I approached thework and I created a way that I
connect to energy, to work withit, because everybody has
different ways of connectingwith energy.

(58:57):
My way is actually verykinesthetic.
So, yeah, so women who areinterested in this kind of work,
I think it's.
I mean, I've had it done myselfand I can speak to the power,
the power of this healingmodality.
I just there's lots ofdifferent sort of approaches to
it.
You know there's lots ofdifferent ways.

(59:18):
It can be used for women'shealth, not just for a birthing
person and, like for me you knowI had a session.
You know, post birth you canheal the connection with your
child, no matter what age theyare, or if you have any thing
happening in your life where youfeel an imbalance, whether it's
in a relationship or not evenin a relationship.

(59:40):
But anything that, anyintention that you have, you
know you can go to your bowl forthe wisdom that it contains.
It can never be that medicineand that wisdom can never be
broken.
It's always there, butsometimes we can get sort of
disconnected from it.
But it doesn't mean that itcan't be healed for sure.

(01:00:01):
So yeah, I don't know if thatsort of answers your question,
no it absolutely does.

Stephanie Theriault (01:00:07):
I love how we're talking about different
ways to heal right, to grow, tobecome connected, and in our
culture and our society there'sso much emphasis on the physical
realm that it's nice for us tocreate a space to learn that we
can also heal on an energeticrealm, on a spiritual realm, and

(01:00:30):
I think that we need that.
I think there's a need for that.
There's a need to make thatconnection.
There's a need for women,birthing people to find women
like yourself who are offeringthese services to help us heal
right.
I think there is a lot oftrauma, there's a lot of birth

(01:00:50):
trauma, there's a lot ofdisconnect and we need to find
that connection.
We need to find that space sowe can heal within ourselves,
heal within our families, healwithin our relationships to lead
a more healthier howeverhealthy looks to us individually
life.
If women are interested, ifpeople are interested in

(01:01:24):
learning more about yourservices, how can they find you?
Sure?

Carla Beatrice (01:01:28):
They can find me at the ladies entrance and I'm
online.
But, yeah, my website isladiesentrancecom and I'm
offering belly bowl services andI can do one-on-one holistic
pelvic energy sessions, whichare these are like I don't do.
I do not do any internalphysical work.
You'd go to a holistic pelviccare provider who's a person

(01:01:50):
that works in the physical realm, but I am training right now to
do that.
We kind of came into the wholefield backwards in a way.
I went you know you go fromphysical to energetic, I went
from energetic and we have firstFridays of every month, we have
the Come Create Nights at theLadies' Entrance, which is open,
and it's by donation, and thedonation proceeds go to my other

(01:02:12):
baby, my other project, whichis called the Survivor Nest
Project, and these areopportunities for me to be able
to offer arts to survivors ofincest and childhood sexual
abuse.
So yeah, so come find me atLadies' Entrance or at Survivor
Nest.

Stephanie Theriault (01:02:26):
It has been such a pleasure chatting with
you.
I'm so grateful that you tooktime out of your day, out of
your busy schedule, to come onthe show and share your story,
to open up, be vulnerable.
Together we can hear from eachother, listen to each other's
stories and grow and heal andmove forward together.
So thank you so much for comingon the show.

Carla Beatrice (01:02:47):
Thank you, stephanie, and I just want to
say when I met you and heardabout you through a mutual
contact, I was amazed by whatyou're doing.
So we're doing it together.
I just want to say too so thisis April, it's Sexual Assault
Awareness Month, and thenational sort of campaign for
this month is Together we Act,united, we Change.

(01:03:11):
So I just really wanted tothank you, because you know,
being able to meet you andseeing what you're doing, I'm
really wanting to get you knowjust do more right, do what we
can for women, for birthingfolks, for mothers.
So, yeah, so together, togetherwe're doing it and United will

(01:03:33):
help others, we'll heal.
We'll heal together.

Stephanie Theriault (01:03:51):
Hey there, amazing listeners.
If you love what we do and wantto see our podcast grow, we
need your help.
By making a donation, you'll besupporting us and bringing you
even more great content.
I truly believe creating thisspace for women all across the
globe to share their story willallow us to collectively heal,
grow and become more empoweredin the space that we deserve to

(01:04:14):
be.
Motherhood, womanhood andhowever that looks and feels for
each and every one of us, Everycontribution, big or small,
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If you can head over to supportus today, there's a link in the
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From the bottom of my heart,thank you for being a part of
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