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Coach Stacy (00:03):
What's one bold
step you've been putting off and
what might happen if youactually took it this year.
Season 3 is about boldness,risk and possibility in midlife.
Today, we'll explore whatboldness looks like, why it's
often hardest in midlife and howyou can cultivate courage
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without ignoring wisdom.
Coach Wayne (00:30):
You found a midlife
revolution, unleashed the space
to embrace your wisdom,reignite your passions and move
boldly into what's next.
I am Coach Wayne, the VIP coach.
Coach Stacy (00:44):
And I'm Coach
Stacey M Lewis.
We're here with insights,stories and strategies to fuel
your midlife journey.
So take a breath, Lean in.
Your revolution starts now.
Coach Wayne (01:02):
Hey, welcome back
everybody.
We are live on direct.
We have had a break a littlestep away from the microphone,
but here we are bigger, bolderand better.
Good evening, stacey.
How are you?
Coach Stacy (01:17):
Coach Wayne, I am
well and welcome to Midlife.
Revolution Unleashed Season 3.
We are so excited to be backand, Wayne, it is always good to
share space with you.
Same here, Stacey.
Coach Wayne (01:35):
I was suffering a
little bit from withdrawal
throughout the course of nothaving us together, sharing with
our audience, and so I'm happyand delighted to get back.
In fact, you know, I'm goingback to the bottle, I'm going to
have a drink to us you shouldinclude me in.
Coach Stacy (01:59):
You know cheers.
Coach Wayne (02:10):
Cheers.
Absolutely so Stacey.
What has been happening withyou and in regards to what we're
going to talk about tonight,which is stepping out and
fortune favors the bold, whatsort of bold steps have you
either not made or intend tomake?
Coach Stacy (02:24):
Well, I'll talk
about a bold step I made today,
which I don't know if it was mywisest, but I was bold and so I
was invited to speak on a panel,and while I had prepared, I did
not necessarily refresh the wayI normally would.
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So usually the night before I'mrefreshing, I'm reviewing, and
I decided that fortune favorsthe bold, so I'm gonna move
forward.
I have everything I need to besuccessful, and so I stepped on
that stage and I gave it my best, and I will say I felt bold in
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the process and I was elated tohear that, indeed, what I had to
say was resonant with othersand that others appreciated my
contribution to the event event,I love it.
Coach Wayne (03:29):
And you speak to
something that later on we want
to touch on, which is when weare deciding to get bold.
We have to just overcome thatvoice that's saying to us you're
not ready, You're not prepared,Maybe you're not even good
enough right, and we have tostep out on faith, overcoming
fear.
That's part of the idea ofbeing bold where fortune favors
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the bold.
Coach Stacy (03:52):
Right, and I think
we're talking not fortune wealth
, financial wealth but reallyfortune, the opportunities
fortune, the new relationships,fortune really moving forward in
your purpose and your passionand your possibility.
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So that's the fortune thatfavors the bold, and for some,
yes, it also becomes a lucrativetype of fortune, but we want to
make sure that we're reallyfocused on you, and I spend a
lot of time talking about valuesand things of that nature, and
while, yes, wealth financialwealth is a value, it is not
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paramount, and so we're talkingabout fortune that favors the
bold, in midlife in particular,to help us live the next seasons
as our best seasons.
Yes, Stacey the Alchemist.
Coach Wayne (04:52):
The book the
Alchemist.
Did you read it?
Coach Stacy (04:55):
I did not.
Coach Wayne (04:56):
Okay, it's a good
read.
And the author, paulo Coelho.
He says he's a Braziliannovelist and he says that there
is only one thing that makes adream impossible to achieve, and
that is the fear of failure.
And I agree with him.
I know, stacey, that oftentimesI am double guessing myself, I
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self-flagellate, but I wasspeaking with someone the other
day and he said that, wayne,it's not always the fear of
failure, but sometimes we fearsuccess, taking a step.
And so what might we have tobecome to be able to step out
boldly and take the risk ofeither success or failure, just
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by stepping out boldly?
Coach Stacy (06:00):
It's a great
question, and what comes to mind
for me is, you know, as you,both you and I do coaching is
that what we really have toovercome?
Is that mindset?
So, whether it's fear, whetherit's not going to be successful,
for some negative narrativethat we have going on in our
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have going on in our heads thatthose are really the barriers to
press through, it's usually notthe external obstacles, but the
internal obstacles.
At least, when I've beenchallenged with doing something
bold, it's been the internalobstacles, and many that I
interact with feel the same.
Coach Wayne (06:53):
I agree.
So, if I may follow yourdirection, stacey, what you're
saying is that oftentimes it'snot the external stuff that gets
in the way, it's the internalgame, the inner game, that gets
in the way in terms of steppingout.
And that would mean that, as weadults greater than the average
person, because we're talkingabout midlifers that we have
oftentimes gone through lots offailures, and so we inform
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ourselves based on failures,saying, oh, I don't want to fail
again.
And we have that dialogue, thatconversation, that inner
conversation.
To your point, what you'resaying is we have to shut that
down and have that mindset andmind shift where we have a
growth mindset if we want toachieve that fortune.
Coach Stacy (07:40):
Absolutely, because
in midlife the risks or what we
might have to lose feel larger.
Right, we've acquired things,we own things, we are
responsible for things, whetherthey be people, finances, homes,
our reputation, that we, thoserisks, risking those things,
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feels much more heavier than itdid, at least for me, when I was
25.
You know, it felt like that wasthe time to take a risk, but
realistically, this is a goodtime to take risks, yeah.
Coach Wayne (08:23):
Stacey, you know I
fired Corporate America four
years ago now, at the end of orthe start of COVID, and that was
tough.
I was in a position where greatbenefits, fair income and I
struggled with the idea thatwhat if?
What if I failed at this, youknow, would people?
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mock me Would people say, hey,you're too old at this point to
be making that kind of riskydecision.
You got to protect your family,serve your family.
But it's one of the bestdecisions I've made because of
the freedom and the exercisethat I've gotten to live my
purpose right and live my dreams, and so I wanted to go through
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with you some of the steps thatI have adapted and perhaps you
could help to walk us throughthat so that our audience, if
you're listening, that that maybe something that is calling on
you.
And the first thing that I hadto do Stacy was to assess my
readiness.
I had to be pretty clear that Ihad some savings.
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I had to be pretty clear whatdirection I wanted to go and I
had to be pretty clear you knowwho I was going to be serving
and what I was going to bedishing out.
My readiness assessment.
Coach Stacy (09:49):
Yes, assessing your
readiness is critical and, to
your point, really askingyourself the challenging
questions right, or the thoughtprovoking questions that may not
be answered in one sitting,those that you might have to
journal about or those that youmight have to really come back
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to come to one response, oneanswer, one conclusion, and then
give yourself some time to comeback to that, to really
thoroughly assess your readiness.
It's critical Whenever we'remaking real decisions, we have
to assess our readiness.
Coach Wayne (10:30):
Thank you, and
Stacey, I also had to you there,
so I had to have a very clearplan as I was stepping out of
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corporates to go intoentrepreneurism.
Would you say that that makessense to you, stacey?
Coach Stacy (11:04):
I would say a plan
is critical, even if you create
a plan that you know will evolve.
But that level of preparationshould come with very direct
intention, right that you arebuilding a plan with the
intention of taking this boldstep, making this new action.
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And so planning is critical.
Planning is critical and Iwould just add, planning with
very clear, direct, specificintention is what we would
encourage tonight.
Coach Wayne (11:42):
Yeah, this one may
be controversial, I don't know
what you think about it.
And so some people.
I tell people oftentimes that,like Cortez, when I entered the
realm of entrepreneurism, Iburnt the ships in the harbor so
that there was no retreat.
But some people often thinkthat you should have a cushion.
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So when you're taking a boldstep, especially in midlife, it
is oftentimes advised to have acushion.
And I would say this though Iburnt the ships, I had savings
put aside, so I did have acushion.
And I would say this though Iburnt the ships, I had Sabins
put aside, so I did have acushion of sorts.
What say you, stacey?
Coach Stacy (12:21):
That is a good one
and I can see why you prefaced
it by saying it sometimecontroversial.
Some of the arguments we saythat I've heard about, you know,
having a plan B or you knowhaving that cushion is in
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competition with faith, rightthat?
Like?
Well, either you believe you'resupposed to do this or take
this bold action or you don't.
And at the same time, goingback to the point you just made
about preparation or planning,right that it is planning for
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the rainy day or for the?
If this goes a little bit to theleft, the, if this goes a
little bit to the left, howwould that impact?
Or what would I want?
How would I want to respond towhatever takes place and
sometime?
That cushion is critical.
And in this season, going backto not having a lot to risk, I
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think that the cushion becomeseven more critical in this
season because we have so muchmore on the line.
So, while it might not be themost fluffy cushion you ever had
in the whole wide world, I doagree that having a cushion,
whatever that looks like, acushion, whatever that looks
like when it comes to takingbold action, is warranted.
Coach Wayne (14:02):
Yeah, and the
reason it's controversial to
your point is that, as people offaith, oftentimes folks are
saying just make a move, godwill provide and take care of
you.
But there's a thin line betweenresponsibility as well, in
terms of, you know, rationalthinking and being responsible,
doing your part.
So that's that having a cushionpiece.
Coach Stacy (14:20):
Yeah, you want to
make sure that, as you are
relying on God, that you arealso hearing and heeding
instruction.
So if the instruction is, makesure you have this cushion.
Whatever it is, whether it'sfinancial, whether it's time
Right, sometime a bold actionrequires time.
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Whatever that cushion is, makesure that you are in alignment
with what God is saying.
And if God is saying like youwant to make sure you have this
cushion, go in faith that youneed a cushion.
Coach Wayne (14:58):
Yeah, and, stacey,
I think it's so important that
we leverage the network.
And so, again, though you maybe looking and saying, oh wait,
stacey, I'm not trying to be abusiness person Taking a bold
move doesn't necessarily meanopening up a business.
It could be a bold move askingsomeone to marry you.
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It could be a bold move interms of moving to a new address
, a new part of town, a newcountry, but these things are
important and we think that.
I think, and we're going toflesh it out today, stacey and I
are talking through it today.
Think, and we're going to fleshit out today.
Stacey and I are talking throughit today that these are
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applicable principles that youcould use throughout your
decision making.
And this other one, stacey, isleverage your network.
So when I was leaving corporate, the first persons that I
checked in with about my ideawere family and close friends
and did my quiet survey in termsof how does this name sound,
how does and even practice mycoaching with close friends.
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So leveraging your network youknow, getting information if
you're going to move to anotherpart of the country that sort of
thing.
Coach Stacy (16:14):
Absolutely, you
must leverage the network,
because a trusted network willgive you not only feedback, but
they will give you real,accurate feedback.
Right, we don't want, as we aretaking bold steps and making
bold moves, we don't wantPollyanna, yes, people.
We want people that are goingto give us the authentic truth
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about what we're doing, howwe're moving, and so, you know,
scripture talks about therebeing wisdom in counsel, right,
in godly counsel, and so reallymaking sure that, yes, we
leverage that network iscritical, yeah, and Stacey I
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also had.
Coach Wayne (17:05):
I recognize that
you're never too old to start
learning or to improve upon whatyou already know and to grow
from past experience, but alsoto add new opportunities to keep
learning.
In other words, it's importantwhen you're going to make a move
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, a bold move, that you stayopen to receive information, to
grow, to learn, to adapt,especially right now, stacey,
that we're dealing withtechnological jumps, with AI and
the whole idea of robotics,augmented intelligence, all of
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that stuff.
Yeah, we really have to.
Coach Stacy (17:50):
Yeah, we really
have to.
While we want to be mindful,prepared, we want to be
intentional.
We want to do so really askingourselves the thoughtful
questions.
We don't want to allow all ofthat data to hinder our forward
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movement, and so it is reallyimportant that we look at what
we're saying is taking boldsteps is important in this
season.
It really is, because each ofus have so much more to give,
whatever that looks like that wedon't want to miss our
opportunities to make the mostmeaningful, the deepest impact,
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whatever that looks like for you.
So we want to make sure that weare not giving you work or
things to think about, things todo, in a way that serves as a
stumbling block or holding youback.
This is us saying let's preparefor some bold moves.
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We're not being reckless, right, but we want to really be
intentional about making, taking, leveraging, bold moves.
Coach Wayne (19:17):
Well said Stacey,
you know to encapsulate all that
we've said and really to makethis, to stress this the biggest
part of making and I think wesaid it before, but making a
bold move in terms of seekingyour fortune, what we call your
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fulfillment is that shift in themind, in the thinking, the
mindset to recognize that youare usually your loudest critic
and your worst enemy when itcomes to decision making and and
when it comes to risk-takingand when it comes to believing
in yourself and your vision thatbold step, that bold vision?
Coach Stacy (20:03):
right, we don't
usually take big leaps.
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We usually, at least, whenyou're watching the high jump or
the hurdles, right, there'ssome steps in there before we
leave.
And so a reminder to maybeidentify some micro bold steps.
Right, what are some small,strategic, thoughtful to your
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point, bold steps that we canbegin to take toward that large
bold move you?
Coach Wayne (20:56):
know tiny steps and
it's important, I think, to
stacy that we celebrate eachprogress, each step, each
advancement.
An inch is a cinch or somethingof the sort, but sometimes we
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don't recognize that if we'retrying to lose 30 pounds and the
bold step is to startexercising every day and we miss
every day, but we're exercisingthree times a week we can
celebrate.
Coach Stacy (21:35):
Mm-hmm, I couldn't
agree with you more.
And as I was thinking aboutthis episode, I actually went
back to what I would considersome of my earlier bold steps,
and one bold step that I tookit's 20 years ago now, um was to
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decide to leave my job, buy ahome, move to a new state with
no job, and I believe that therewas some courage in there.
There was a scripture that wasvery resonant with me at that
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time and it said that God wouldgo before me and that God would
be my rear guard.
And when I read that, I tookthat as a very clear directive
to step right.
And so, yes, there was somemicro steps in there, but, to
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your point of celebration, thereare still moments that I
celebrate that bold action,although it was 20 years ago,
because it changed thetrajectory of my life and of my
son's life, and so we often havemore to celebrate.
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We've often made or accomplishedmore, we've often experienced
and engaged our own wisdom inways that have helped us move
forward, and we don't oftencelebrate that, we don't often
acknowledge that.
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Even it feels like, yes, thatwas 20 years ago.
Yes, 20 years is a long time,but it was a critical, a
critical bold step in my life,and so I encourage you, our
listener, to really think aboutsome of the previous bold steps
that you've taken and while allof them may not have worked out,
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I can't imagine that thereweren't some that did and so to
really take that as fuel tobegin to take those micro bold
moves, or to really do that deepthinking that you talked about
earlier, wayne.
We've got to get moving, peopleGot to get moving.
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Since you came back in theheavyweight division.
Coach Wayne (24:18):
I see Throwing some
heavy punches here.
I hear you, you know.
I tell folks, as a coach, thequestion when folk are
deliberating about making majordecisions or taking bold steps,
I ask them to challengethemselves by asking these
questions what is the greatestgain that they can conceive if
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they took action?
And then I asked what would bethe loss, the gravest loss, if
they took action?
But behind that comes two otherquestions and if you didn't
take action, what would be thegain?
And if you didn't take action,then what might be the loss?
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Right, right, because everydecision is going to have a cost
.
Yeah, and if you didn't takeaction, then what might be the
loss?
Coach Stacy (25:14):
Right?
Right, because every decisionis going to have a cost.
Coach Wayne (25:18):
Yeah.
Coach Stacy (25:18):
Right, there's
going to be a gain or a loss, or
there's going to be some cost,a gain or a lesson.
Whatever it is, there's a cost,and so I love that and I hope
that you our listener take thatnugget and think about that as
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you're really planning Right.
Here we are.
We're in the in the last thirdof 2025.
There are moves to make.
There is life to live.
There are moves to make, thereis life to live, there are lives
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to impact and there is a deepsense of purpose and possibility
, I believe, for each of us toconnect to in that inner purpose
and possibility.
And so this is the revolution,right Taking midlife and not
looking at it, as you said,really focusing on the aging,
but focusing on the saging, onthe gifts, all of that, all of
those gifts that we've amassedover time, and looking at how we
can use that to propel us intothis next season.
Coach Wayne (26:35):
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, stace, we to share.
I think I shared it with youbefore I'll share with the
listener.
Audrey and I we're closing on ahouse in a week or so, right,
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in a week or so, right.
And was it a bold step?
Yes, because the way the marketis right now, with prices being
elevated, there is a lot ofcaution about diving in.
So we had to weigh a lot ofthings and, to be sure, some of
the principles, in fact all ofthe principles that I just
shared, around starting abusiness, we had to get through
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in terms of making the decisionright to purchase at this time
in an economy that's titheringon inflation, right.
So we had to see how ready wewere.
We had to certainly had to havea cushion.
We had to have a solid plan.
We were.
We had to certainly had to havea cushion, we had to have a
solid plan.
We leveraged network, we.
You know, I can't tell you howmany times I drove through the
neighborhood in the rain, atmidnight, early morning, sunday,
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saturday, and ask people around, you know, willing to learn,
get more information from amortgage person or finance
person, and just to change themindset about at this stage, do
we want to make that move andthe packing and all that stuff?
And so I would say to folk thatif you're right now at a place
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in your life where you'rethinking, oh, I'm too old, oh
it's too late, no, oh it's toolate, no, this is an opportunity
, a season for something fresh,for renewal, for revival, for
regeneration, and I would say goin two feet, two arms, head and
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body head and body and takethat bold step.
Coach Stacy (28:38):
I could not agree
with you more.
The boldness with intention,that's values driven, is doable
in small steps.
And so I pose the question whatis the boldest action that
you're willing to take in thenext 30 days and how will you
hold yourself accountable?
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That's for me, that's for youand that is for you, wayne, and
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it doesn't have to be I'm goingto move to Japan, because that's
always been a wild dream.
Your bold step could be youknow what?
I'm actually going to buy thatnew dishwasher, or I'm going to
do this addition on my home, orI'm going to ask for that
promotion right, I'm going toput this new offer out there as
a business person.
And so what is that?
Let's identify that step, thatbold step we're willing to take
in the next 30 days, and thenidentify how we're going to hold
ourselves accountable.
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I know that that's somethingthat I would engage my coach to
hold me accountable on, and Ican only encourage you, our
listener to do the same.
Coach Wayne (30:17):
I love Unleashed
and Stacey.
I'm feeling like we're warmingup, but we got to go and so,
Stacey, how do people get intouch with you?
And what's next?
Coach Stacy (30:31):
Sure.
So before I share that, I dosay I was a little remiss and
want to acknowledge Pat Cadreauand Lisa Johnson.
Thank you so much for being apart of the Midlife Revolution
Unleashed.
I am Coach Stacey M Lewis.
I'm a nonprofit executive.
I am a midlife women's coach.
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I'm a lover of God and hispeople and I am excited to move
forward in a new level ofboldness.
I just came out of a workshop.
I was like you know what?
Yes, this is it Like.
Take that next bold step.
And so my next bold step isfocused on my business and I'm
looking forward to theaccountability and the impact
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I'm going to make.
You can reach me atthestaceymlewiscom and here on
LinkedIn or on Facebook all theplaces you know.
What about you, wayne?
Coach Wayne (31:29):
Folks can reach me
at there we go
VIPTransformativeLivingcom.
All my handles are there andStace, I actually do have an
assessment that I'd like to putup for free assessment.
It's a self-alignmentassessment, so if you want to
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know if you're aligned in termsof your purpose, your why and
your values, where you are rightnow, right here, take this
assessment.
It's one that will have youreally getting inside and
thinking, but it will come outon the other end helping to shed
some light, and you're going toget a lot out of it.
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So just make sure that you canfill that out.
Coach Stacy (32:19):
So, wayne, we're
going to make sure both you and
I we're going to hold each otheraccountable to make sure that
you put that link in thecomments on LinkedIn and in the
comments on Facebook so thatpeople can more easily access
that, because we really wantpeople to get that assessment in
their hands and learn moreabout themselves and see what
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their next bold step can be.
Coach Wayne (32:46):
And folks can DM me
on any of my channels and just
put the word assessment and I'llhave it forwarded to you.
Oh, there we go, that's niceand easy.
Type the word assessment andI'll have it forwarded to you.
Coach Stacy (32:53):
Oh, there we go,
that's, that's nice and easy.
Type the word assessment in theDMs.
Coach Wayne (32:59):
States next week, I
think.
Shall we declare what we'respeaking on now, or we should
just promote it through the week?
Coach Stacy (33:10):
Feel free to
declare Wayne.
Feel free, Take it away.
Coach Wayne (33:14):
We're talking about
AI next week and we were going
to have a guest and we still may, but at least we're going to
talk about what that looks like,what that means to us in
midlife.
Some folks are afraid that theywill be replaced and others
think that they will be part ofthe team that replaces those
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that think they'll be replaced.
So we'll talk about that.
Coach Stacy (33:39):
I'm looking forward
to the conversation, no matter
what we're talking about,because our heart's desire is to
really be of service and addvalue to our midlife community.
So, wayne, I think that thishas been a great episode three
kickoff.
It's been my joy to spend thistime with you, and I remind our
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listener that you are therevolution.
It's time to celebrate therichness in midlife.
Coach Wayne (34:09):
Enjoyed being with
you here, stacey, and our
listeners.
We'll see you next time.
Coach Stacy (34:12):
Thanks for tuning
in to Midlife Revolution
Unleashed.
We're grateful you're part ofthis journey.
Coach Wayne (34:18):
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Coach Stacy (34:25):
I'm Coach Stacey
and I'm cheering you on.
Coach Wayne (34:28):
And I'm Coach Wayne
and I'll see you at the top.