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Coach Wayne (00:06):
you've just stepped
into the midlife revolution,
unleashed your space to ignitepossibility, redefine purpose
and embrace the power that comeswith age and experience,
co-hosted by yours truly coachwin and I'm coach stacy m lewis,
are two-season coaches focusedon the midlife community of
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color.
Coach Stacy (00:27):
This isn't just a
podcast.
It's a movement In a world thatsometimes forgets the power and
the wisdom that comes with age.
We are here to ignite arevolution and rewrite the
narrative of this incrediblejourney.
Coach Wayne (00:43):
So, whether you're
navigating your career, growing
your business, rediscoveringpassions or challenging the
status quo, this is your space.
So buckle up, let's dive intothe Midlife Revolution Unleashed
.
Hey, hey, hey, we are back, andthis is a momentous event for
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us.
On Midlife Revolution Unleashed, we are at our 60th episode
getting a little bit old, orgray, as you might want to say
and this is our final episodefor season two, so we're going
to make it a blast and have youall celebrate with us tonight.
My name is Coach Wayne.
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I work with midlife men makingsure that their second half is
their best half, and riding upside next to me is none other
than the Coach Stacy, introduceyourself, mademoiselle, thank
you so much, coach Wayne.
Coach Stacy (01:49):
Welcome everyone to
the Midlife Revolution
Unleashed.
It is always a joy and honorand a blessing to spend this
time with you all, whether youare catching us live or the
replay.
We are celebrating Episode 60.
We are celebrating theconclusion of season two and we
are celebrating the opportunityto have a special guest and
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continue to nurture.
So.
I'm Stacy M Lewis.
I'm a nonprofit executive, I'ma midlife women's coach, I'm a
lover of God and his people onmost days and I'm so excited to
be here with these two gentlemenwho I know are going to be
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gentlemen.
Coach Wayne (02:34):
Yes, ma'am.
Coach Stacy (02:35):
Midlife Revolution
Unleashed.
Coach Wayne introduce our guest.
Coach Wayne (02:40):
Absolutely.
What a delightful pleasure andthis is a brother, a true
brother, that I've met over thelast.
I want to say we're going intothree years or so, right, Coach
Michael?
And this is Coach MichaelTaylor, an unapologetic,
optimist and passionate voicefor empowering men and women
over 50 to redefine aging andembrace their next chapter with
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purpose and passion.
As the author of I Am Not OkayWith Gray, this wonderful
reading material here in my hand, he challenges outdated beliefs
about growing older andinspires others to see aging as
a time for reinvention, vitalityand joy.
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Coach Michael Taylor, indeed,welcome my brother on this stage
.
How are you?
Coach Michael Taylor (03:39):
It is my
absolute joy being with you guys
today.
Of course, wayne and I go backa minute, and he's a brother
that I highly respect and love,and I'm just really excited
about being on the program today.
Coach Stacy (03:53):
Thank you so much
for joining us.
We're just so excited.
We certainly want to welcomeour listenership.
Hi Delane, it's always good tosee you and have you supporting
us.
One of the interesting things asI was thinking about this topic
not only the title of your book, but also the reality of this
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beautiful season of life, ofgetting older and being able to
choose how we look at thisseason, whether it be with a
sense of chagrin or a sense ofpossibility.
And I was reminded of one timewhen I was going to have my hair
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braided, and so, for those ofyou that are just not aware
about the hair braiding, some ofit comes from my scalp, some of
it came from the store, and so,as I was going to make that
purchase, I was talking with mygirlfriend and I said no, I want
to make sure that I buy somegray so that it matches what is
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coming out of my head.
And she was borderline appalledwith why would you buy gray?
Why would you want to emphasizethat?
And in my line of work, wherepeople are diagnosed with a
devastating disease and oftenlose their hair, I'm grateful
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for my hair and I am gratefulfor the grays, and I wanted to
make sure that it wasn't graydown here and then super shiny
black down here.
So for me it was really acelebration and it was
interesting to have someone thatI love and know well have just
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a contrasting view about.
You know gray hair and what itrepresents, and so let's dive in
.
Coach Wayne (06:00):
Yeah, yeah.
So you know, Stace, I am goingthrough a transition now, and
for the last I don't know howlong I've had a beard, but maybe
10 years ago the beard startedlooking great and I wasn't
having it, Stacy, I wasn'thaving it, and so I got a
contract with Ms Claro.
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You know so that when peopleask me, Wayne, how do you look
so young, I show them mycontract with Ms Clara.
Coach Stacy (06:28):
Okay.
Okay, audrey, let you cheat inthere a little bit then with Ms
Clara, okay.
We got to keep going, keepgoing.
Coach Wayne (06:36):
For years, you know
, men and women have been
dealing with the issue oflooking your best self the way
you interpret that to be andfeeling your best self, the way
you interpret that to be.
And no shame in the game.
You know, we, we work out, wewe cut away here.
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We do all this stuff for that,for that, for that, for that.
And it's a challenge oftentimesin our society to equate youth
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with vigor, success, health andthat sort of thing and to almost
disband and shame in oursociety, not in other societies.
Apparently, folks as they ageand I like to say that rather
than aging, we are saging.
But I know in Coach Michael'sbook, the book that we're
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featuring today, in the forewordby Kevin Ross, the conversation
comes up about our culture ofdisbanding and disregarding the
older generation and peoplegetting ill and not feeling fit
and having energy as they gotolder.
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And so the question was whywould God do this after you've
worked so long and hard andMichael you talked about?
It's not a God problem, it's aparadigm problem.
Bust it up.
Coach Michael Taylor (08:21):
Well, let
me share how the book came about
.
This is an interesting story.
So a friend of mine was teasingme because I color my beard and
my hair and he says Michael man, why do you do that?
Why do you color your hair?
And I immediately said man, I'mnot okay with gray Gray.
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And as soon as I said it, Ipulled out my phone and I made a
little note and I said you know, that's a really cool title for
a book.
It just sounded really cool.
So what I normally do wheneverI get an idea for a book, I'll
just put it on my phone and comeback to it later.
Well, probably a year and ahalf, two years later, when I
was getting ready to write mybook, I pulled out my little
phone and went I'm not okay withgray, it's time for that
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particular book.
Now, when I say I'm not okaywith gray, it has absolutely
nothing to do with hair color.
Gray is a mindset.
We live in a society, as Imentioned, that kind of
demonizes getting older.
But in reality it's the beliefsystems of our culture that you
know.
We hear that as I get older,I'm going to, you know, lose
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mobility.
I'm going to, you know, it'sgoing to take me longer to heal.
I'm going to slow down.
You know I can't do the thingsthat I, and I completely
disagree with that.
Now, for me, I have made thedecision that I am not going to
wear gray until I turn 75 yearsold.
For me, 75 to me, symbolizesgray hair.
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Now I'm 64.
I honestly feel like I'm stillin my 30s, with the exception of
my knees needs, but for themost part, at 64, I'm as happy
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and excited and energetic as Iwas when I was in my 30s.
So for me, the gray simplyrepresents or the not keeping
the gray simply represents theyouth that I feel.
I don't feel gray.
So, once again, the intention ofthis book was to simply give
people a different way to viewaging Because, unfortunately,
too many times when we heargetting older, we get scared.
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We go oh my gosh, I've got lessyears ahead than I have behind
me.
But what people don't realizeis that they're predicting in
the next 20 to 30 years, theaverage lifespan is going to be
120 years old.
Now, think about that.
120 years old Now most people.
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I always say that I have anintention and that intention is
to live to be at least 100 yearsold.
That's my goal.
I want to get to three digits.
I want to say I'm a hundredyears old.
That's just something I want todo.
But the point is, you can't getthere if you don't have the
right mindset.
And that's what thisconversation is about.
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It's about setting the mindsetto prepare you, to set
intentions, to grow old withgrace.
Coach Stacy (11:29):
I love it.
So cheers to Kenneth Dunner,who says my knees are perky
peeps, who also shared that hejust turned 67.
Thank you, and is looking goodwith the gray.
And I love what you just shared, Michael, because that, indeed,
is the reality.
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It's a mindset, it is a mindset,and so for me, it was about
embracing the who I am, as I amright now, and I'll be honest
and say that the gentleman thatwas doing my hair at that time
was very clear.
He was like A, you don't wantto start coloring your hair
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because then you'll feel likeyou can never stop.
And two, he was like it's notgood for your hair, so don't do
it.
Right.
So I was like okay, so now Ireally have a great opportunity
not to do it.
But what you said was just sovery true, because it is a
mindset.
And as we embrace the mindsetthat getting older is the goal,
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right, that is the goal.
Like you said, your goal is nowthe three digits.
Getting older is the goal, butit's how we get there, both in
our mind and our body.
That is what we're talkingabout, right, what we think
about getting older and how wethen behave based on our
thoughts about getting older.
Coach Michael Taylor (12:59):
Absolutely
.
And again we hear that as weget older, they'll say well, you
know, my body's going to startbreaking down and everything is
going to start.
My body's going to atrophy andmy mind's going to not be as
sharp.
It's not aging that's doingthat.
It's the fact that you're nolonger paying attention to the
things that you want to do andyou've accepted what the media
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says your body's going to do.
And the mindset is I expectdecline.
I'm saying don't expect decline.
Set intentions, becomecommitted to making sure that
you are doing whatever you canto move ahead.
Now again, coloring my hairactually has nothing to do with
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vanity.
I'm not trying to look morehandsome, it's just, once again,
for me, it's how I feel.
I feel in every fiber of mybeing.
Again, I'm still in my thirtiesand so that just the idea, the
visual of the gray, it'sincongruent with how I feel.
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So I want to keep thatcongruency and keep this
excitement and passion and soforth, all the feeling that I
have.
And again, I do that bycoloring the gray.
Coach Wayne (14:21):
Yeah, michael, in
the book you talked about the
midlife crisis, and here is atag that we have given to a
normal period in our lives andyou know we talked also about at
40.
When you think about it, somepeople call it getting older and
we are aging getting older, butit's not old age when you think
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that it's technically halfwaythere, meaning you have another
potential 40 years ahead of you.
So you're really at midlife andI think that this is an
opportunity to have leverage,since you have 40 years of
experience, 40 years ofknowledge, so now you can put
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that together and have 40 yearsof wisdom moving forward.
You talked about midlife crisisand getting through that and
you talked about the rollercoaster.
Tell us a little bit more aboutthat, michael, and, in
particular, tell a little bitabout your story that you
reinvented yourself, goingthrough that very roller coaster
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, so that those folks listeningto us can have some stuff to
take away and be hopeful.
Coach Michael Taylor (15:31):
So.
So, at the age of 23, I wasliving the American dream.
I had the house, the wife, the2.5 kids, the vacation, the 401k
and, by society standards, Iwas pretty successful at 23.
And by society standards, I waspretty successful at 23.
Within about a six and a halfyear time frame, my American
dream turned into the Americannightmare, as I went through a
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divorce, bankruptcy, foreclosure, a deep, deep state of
depression.
I was actually homeless for twoyears, living out of my car.
Now I'm 30 years old or so andI've basically lost everything.
And so, as I was sitting theretrying to figure out what the
heck had happened, I received amiracle.
I was sitting up late one nightbecause I was too depressed to
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sleep, and I was sitting at theedge of my bed looking across
the room at my bookshelf, when Ihappened to notice that every
book on my bookshelf hadsomething to do with getting
rich or making money.
And as I looked at those books,this question just popped in my
head Michael, what if you tookall the energy and effort you've
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used in trying to get rich andsimply figure out how to be
happy?
And as simplistic as thatquestion may sound, it literally
changed and saved my life in aninstant.
I can't explain it, but all ofa sudden my depression lifted
and I had this amazing claritythat I was going to be able to
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rebuild my life, and it wasgoing to become extraordinary.
And I had absolutely noevidence to support that.
A part of me intuitively knewthat I was going to be able to
rebuild my life.
Now, as a result of asking thatquestion, I stopped reading
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books on getting rich and makingmoney.
I started reading books onpsychology and philosophy and
metaphysics and personaldevelopment, and I began what
I'll call my journey oftransformation.
And that journey oftransformation is an inside job.
One of my favorite quotes is"'If you don't go within, you
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always go without'".
And so I began that innerjourney of transformation, and
it began with me beingcourageous enough, first of all,
to go to therapy and to startaddressing some of the emotional
baggage that I was carrying,that I was not even aware of.
That was one of the firstthings I did.
But then again, I started doingall these workshops and
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seminars and listening to audioprograms, and, interestingly
enough, as I was doing this, asI was going to these workshops
and seminars, I noticed that inmost cases, I was the only man
of color in the room, and so acouple of times I had to
question myself.
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I said wait, should I be here?
You know where the brothers at.
You know where the brothers at.
But then what I realized was Iwas healing, I was growing, I
was changing, didn't matter whatthe people around me looked
like, because of my commitmentto my own growth.
And so, as a result of going onthat journey, commitment to my
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own growth and so, as a resultof going on that journey and
again, it's a journey that I'mstill on today, some 30 years
later, but as a result of goingon that journey, I created the
life that, intuitively, I'vealways known was possible living
a life of possibilities, ofpassion and purpose.
And so it is my absolute joysharing the lessons that I
learned along the way, andthat's why I write books.
Coach Wayne (19:10):
Powerful, Stacy we
had discussed, and to Michael's
point, that there's some thingsthat from time to time hold us
back from, as people say, aginggracefully, from, as people say,
aging gracefully, but frombreaking through and moving to
the next level, perhaps theirbest level, after midlife.
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What are some of the things,Stacy, that your experience
personally and with the peoplethat you are coaching, the women
that gets in the way of movingthrough that barrier.
Coach Stacy (19:45):
What's in the way
of moving through that barrier.
There are a number of things,yet listening to Michael and
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thank you so much, michael, forsharing your story, your
experience, and where yougleaned your wisdom from and saw
the possibility Because I thinkpossibility is one of the areas
that at least a number, if notall, of the midlife women of
color that I've coached strugglewith.
There's data that talks abouthow anywhere from 60 to 70% of
women are living beneath theirpossibility, and for women of
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color it's even more so, and sothat mindset around possibility
is critical.
I think the other thing I wouldadd is, as we talk about aging
and gray gray hair althoughthat's not the focus of the book
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one thing that women often haveto deal with, in particular,
women in the workplace, women inleadership is the perception of
others on their capacity, theirpossibilities, on their
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capacity, their possibilities.
And, as I talk to and coach,I've coached a few women to stop
dying their hair, not becauseI'm offended or I feel like you
shouldn't die, but because theyreally didn't want to dye their
hair, but they were doing sobased on the experience they
were having with other people'sperceptions of who they were and
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what their capacities are asthey age, and so the gray hair
was giving others the cue thatthey were getting older and
therefore they were doing.
They were making this move thatthey didn't want to make
because of the perceptions andthe experience with others and
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how there was the mindset of thepossibility, not that I'll
succeed anyhow, but thepossibility that it will hold me
back, that others seeing me asgetting older, maybe you know,
will hold me back, and so Ithink I expanded the question a
little bit, but that would be myanswer.
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What about you, wayne?
Coach Wayne (22:20):
Well, you know,
you're talking about what we
call a limiting belief orbeliefs, the fact that we put
these excuses, these barriers,and oftentimes we project it on
somebody else.
The society says, the peoplearound us say, oh, family, the
expectations, the job, and partof it, I think, is about asking,
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is about asking, michael.
In your book you talk about it,about the ability to continue
your evolution by asking onesimple question.
The question was how can Ibecome better?
My tagline is bigger, better,bolder, you know, and so I think
a lot of what those listeningshould be challenged with is to
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start reframing getting older byasking more powerful questions.
What advantages do I havehaving been on the planet for
decades?
What advantages do I have interms of leverages?
How can I be bigger, better,bolder?
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How can I stop smalling upmyself and playing into the game
of somebody else's expectationsor lack thereof for me and
start truly fulfilling andbreaking through?
Michael, thank you for thequestion.
Coach Michael Taylor (23:51):
I think it
comes back to my point at the
beginning, which is the mindsetMost people I'm going to assert.
If you ask them if they want tolive to be 100, they would
probably say no, and the reasonthey would say that is because
they're afraid that they'regoing to be incapacitated.
Maybe I'm going to be in awheelchair or I'm on drugs or
whatever.
So the fear of growing olderkeeps people from investing in
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becoming older, and so the pointof coaching is to provide
insights.
And, wayne, you just mentioneda powerful word, which is
beliefs.
A coach's job is to help youchange your beliefs about what's
possible.
And so, for most people again,they think that, ok, once I get
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to 60, 75, we have this thingcalled retirement and I'm just
going to wait for retirement.
75, we have this thing calledretirement and I'm just going to
wait for retirement.
But have you ever seen thestatistics of what happened to
people after they retire?
It's not a pretty picture.
It's not a pretty picture.
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So what I promote is this wholeidea about, once again,
possibilities and us settingintentions to be, to do, to have
anything we set our minds to.
And so, from a age perspective,as mentioned, if you look at
over the last hundred years, howlifespan has continued to
increase.
It's only going to continue.
If you look at what's going on,a lot of people are terrified of
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AI.
Ai is now creating thingsthat's going to help people
expand, extend their lives.
As mentioned, they'repredicting that within the next
30 years, 120 is going to beaverage.
You'll be able to live to 120.
And think about that.
If I'm going to live to be 120,I'm only halfway through right
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now.
I'm just getting warmed up.
So I'm like, wow, man, thinkabout it.
So, once again, the mindset forme is think in terms of what's
possible, not what the media hassaid is possible, but what you
set an intention to achieve.
Coach Stacy (26:02):
I love what Delane
just said because it is right,
in alignment with what CoachMichael just said.
Right, that that's retirementfrom life, not retirement from a
job.
Right, if you have that mindsetthat's saying like I'm going to
retire and then I'll just kindof sit back and let life pass me
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by.
Or I'm going to retire and myknees are going to hurt and I'm
going to be on all kinds ofmedications and I won't be able
to travel the way I designed.
All of that is going to be true.
And so what clients are tellingthemselves is critical the
story, the record.
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I'm 62.
I always use the analogy and theimagery of an LP.
Right, we know that you putthat record on the record player
and jamming to your songs, andif the record has a scratch in
it, you hear that flaw over andover and over again.
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And our mindsets are like that.
And so if the narrative, thestory that you're telling
yourself is getting older iswhere my possibilities dwindle,
or getting older is where lifeis on the decline, unfortunately
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that will be true.
And so I love what you'rebringing out in your book and in
your energy, as I think it was.
Kenneth said, you're lookinglike 45.
Coach Michael Taylor (27:48):
I had to
say that I'm sorry.
I had to throw that out there.
Coach Stacy (27:59):
We agree.
As coaches, the goal is reallybringing out the wealth of
wisdom and knowledge andreigniting that possibility that
I believe is really withineveryone.
It is about what we're focusedon.
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Are we focused on the fact thatwe're getting older and our
hair is going to be gray and itmeans, you know, we're going to
retire and life is kind of goingto be over?
Or are we saying I'm gettingolder and yes, I'm going to
retire, and yes, I'm taking careof my knees and my weight and
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all of that now so that when I'm82, watch out, world watch out?
Coach Wayne (28:49):
You know I can't I
unfortunately can't remember the
study, but a while back I readthat there was this study done
where they gathered a group ofmaybe 50, 60, 70-year-olds and
put them in a retreat settingand divided them.
One group was exposed for a fewdays to words like gray
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arthritis, pain, older, thatsort of stuff.
And the other group had neutralwords or empowering words and
after a while the group that wasexposed to the gray and you
know pain and all that stuffstarted moving more slowly and
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even bent over and apparentlyaged psychologically.
Chronologically they were thesame age, they had the same time
frame in that experimentalspace, but one group, based on
the words that were exposed tothem and that they received to
be true of their description intheir own lot in life, actually
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started behaving congruentlywith an older group, so to speak
, and that's very powerfulcongruently with an older group,
so to speak, and that's verypowerful.
Coach Michael Taylor (30:07):
Oh yeah, I
mean and you know, it's been
said that the mind cannotdistinguish between what is real
and what is vividly imagined.
Yeah, so if you vividly imagineyourself as you're getting
older in a positive light, guesswhat's going to happen If you
vividly see yourself as gettingolder and degrading and going
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the opposite direction.
That's what's going to show upin your life.
And it does come back tomindset and how we think,
because thoughts become thingsand as we're thinking about
getting older, it's the attitudethat we have and even more so,
the feeling.
Ah, that's the key.
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If we have this feeling ofoptimism, of hope, it creates
energy in the body and the bodyresponds.
But if we're fearful, that isnegative and it's going to show
up in negative aspects of yourbody Disease, you know,
discomfort, negative emotion,negative feeling.
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So it's important that wemaintain this, this positive
energy, if you will.
Now, my, my tagline is I am anirrepressible optimist with a
passion for the impossible.
That's my tagline.
Now, what kind of energy comesfrom that, that positive energy?
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And boy does it fuel me to dosome amazing things.
Coach Stacy (31:39):
Yeah, Absolutely.
Clearly.
Both in our listening audienceare in full agreement with you,
Coach Michael.
Full agreement, Go ahead, Wayne.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Coach Wayne (31:49):
No, I was just
going to say that.
You know that on my platform,one of the things that I talk
about is when I see folks notachieving their fullest
potential behind the scenes.
It comes down to what I callthe Paul syndrome.
They don't think it's possible,which is learned hopelessness,
right.
They don't think they have theability, which is learned
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helplessness.
And they don't think they'reworthy, they don't think that
they're deserving, right.
And when we age, we own and holdon to one or all of those.
We own and hold on to one orall of those we figure,
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oftentimes because of theenvironment that we have, that
cast to the side the elderly orthose who are aging.
I mean right now, Stacy, we hada show that we were talking
about is the only time,unprecedented time in our
history where we have fivegenerations intermingling in the
workplace, intermingling in theworkplace and what's happening
as a result is we're seeingwhere there's just a difference
of how we do things andoftentimes the older generation
is saying to the youngergeneration boy, if I had your
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youth and your energy, what Iwould be able to do?
And the youth or youngergenerations are saying man,
you're too old, get out of theway.
Generations are saying man,you're too old, get out of the
way.
So, unfortunately, you know, webuy into this false narrative
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about what aging should be inour environment, in our
community, in our society.
So we have these.
Learn helplessness, learn I'mnot able to and I'm not enough.
Why and I'm not enough?
Why?
Because oftentimes we'recomparing ourselves to, to
social media or the hype that'sgiven to us by others, rather
than digging deeply, changingthe mind to a growth mindset and
recognizing that we have theability to be and do anything
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that we truly want to do.
You know, michael, you talkedabout your knees, but maybe you
can't run a mile at a certainlevel, but that doesn't mean you
can't swim and get the samefitness level, absolutely.
Coach Michael Taylor (33:55):
Absolutely
.
Well, you know, we've heardforever this whole idea that you
can't teach an old dog newtricks, and nothing could be
further from the truth.
Absolutely.
An old dog can learn new tricksif he's willing to commit to it
.
He's just got to make thecommitment that he wants to
learn some new tricks.
Coach Stacy (34:20):
Or if the treats
are good.
You know, I have a dog, so when, when the treats are good,
right, he's an older dog, he'lllearn some new tricks, right?
And it is in this analogy thetreats are that life of
possibility.
Coach Michael Taylor (34:30):
Absolutely
.
Coach Stacy (34:31):
Right, that's the
driver, the life of possibility,
the life of being able topursue dreams and heartfelt
desires.
Those are the treats, andthat's where we learn to do some
new tricks.
Coach Michael Taylor (34:48):
But you
know, the data also shows that
our most productive time framein our lives is in our 70s.
Now think about that.
Our most productive years arein our 70s.
Second, we're 60s and I say oneof the reasons that is is if we
, you know, if we live just anaverage life, you know we go
(35:09):
through life and by then youknow we've had the kids, we've
done all this stuff, you know,hopefully we set ourselves up
with a little bank account so wecan do some things.
But for me, I think, as you getolder, I think what we do is we
live life backwards.
And here's what I mean whenwe're young, we're partying,
(35:34):
baby, we're having a good time,and then we get around 35 and 40
and say, oh okay, it's time toslow down and get serious about
life.
And then we get a job, maybethe wife, the house and so forth
, and then, as we get older, westart going into this idea about
this thing called retirement.
Well see, for me I say Do itall early.
One of the things that I'mreally proud of myself for doing
is that a very early age, I hada plan, and that plan was
(35:58):
number one I wanted to be a dadthat was.
That was I wanted to be a dadand I wanted to find the perfect
partner.
Now I happened to get divorcedwhen I was, as mentioned, 20, 29
.
But I still had that commitmentthat I was going to be a great
father, I was going to be a goodhusband.
So I did find the love of mylife.
I've been blissfully married forthe past 23 years or so, but my
(36:23):
commitment was these are somethings that I wanted to
accomplish in my life and I'vebasically done everything I set
out to do in my 20s Became agood father, been a great
husband, written books and allof that.
(36:43):
One of the things I thinkthat's missing for us and why
people get stuck in later yearsof life because they don't have
a plan, they don't know or havenot set any goals, anything to
strive for.
And so are you guys familiarwith the be do have triangle?
Coach Stacy (37:01):
I am not.
Coach Michael Taylor (37:02):
The be do
have triangle.
Here's the key.
I believe this is the key to ahappy life the B do have.
Most of us believe so.
Imagine a triangle Okay.
So at the top of the trianglewe're going to put the word do
Okay.
On the bottom left of thetriangle we're going to put have
.
And on the right we're going toput be.
(37:23):
So most people what they do isif I do this, I can have this
and I'll be this Okay.
So if I do this thing calledget a job, I'm going to have
some money and then I'll behappy.
Okay.
But we put all the emphasis ondoing stuff.
(37:44):
The key is, if we put B at thetop, if I be happy, I can do
whatever I want and I can havewhatever I want.
But our society gets itbackwards.
It doesn't teach us how to be.
It's always focusing on what todo.
(38:05):
Nothing wrong with doing stuff,nothing wrong with having stuff
.
But doing stuff and havingstuff is never going to make you
happy.
Happiness is an inside job.
You got to be willing to do theinner work to be happy.
And so if we'll put our focuson being happy and the feeling
(38:26):
because you know everything, wedo, everything we do, we do in
an attempt to be happy.
Think about it.
Why do we go to work?
We go to work to make money.
Why do we make money?
Because we want to buy stuff.
Why do we buy stuff?
Because we want to be happy,right, so there's this.
We get caught in this trap, butwe forget that the beingness,
(38:52):
it's what's truly important.
And again, I chased money for along time.
It wasn't until I learned to behappy first that I could
attract the money that I'dalways dreamed of.
Coach Wayne (39:05):
Yeah, powerful.
Coach Stacy (39:07):
Curtis said yes,
sir, and there's some.
There's definitely some basicinstruction before leaving earth
foundation in there of usprioritizing the being, not the
doing.
It is not our works right thatare going to do it.
It's really in us being, who weauthentically and purposefully
(39:29):
are, that is opening the door tothe having.
Coach Michael Taylor (39:34):
Yeah, and
in that process, if we do it
properly, purpose will come tothe surface Absolutely.
Purpose will show up when welearn to be authentically happy.
Purpose will show up becausewhat that does is it helps us
tap into the unique gifts andtalent that we already have.
(39:54):
Yes, where does the happinesscome from?
It comes from expressing thosethings.
It comes from expressing thatpurpose, that joy, that passion
or whatever, but it's stillabout the beingness of
expressing that purpose, thatjoy, that passion or whatever,
but it's still about thebeingness of expressing that
purpose.
Coach Wayne (40:09):
Yeah, you know.
The VIP framework, which myentire business is founded on,
talks about living in congruencewith your values, your core
values, having a sense of selfor identity that's in alignment
with that, and when those twoare coupled together, your
(40:30):
purpose jumps out at you.
Your purpose finds you.
Your purpose is a divineassignment themselves happy,
seeing themselves abundant,seeing themselves healthy,
seeing themselves safely,securely married and all that
(40:51):
stuff.
When they start owning thatidentity and living in truth,
authentically with their values,they find purpose and
fulfillment, and not the otherway around.
So I'm in total agreement withyou, coach Michael.
Stacy how do we, as we get onthe last fur where you know, how
(41:18):
do they develop into this placeof security and safety and
feeling better about themselvesas coaches?
Coach Stacy (41:40):
Yeah, I believe
step one is always be honest
with yourself and where you areright now.
Right, we cannot heal what wedon't reveal, and oftentimes
those limiting beliefs, themindset that is holding us back
(42:02):
is so tamped down by life thatwe actually stop.
We don't even know what'shappening.
We don't really know what'shappening.
Many have lost touch with whothey are, where they are and why
, and so I believe that one ofthe first steps is to really be
honest with yourself, not from ajudgmental standpoint that's
(42:26):
never going to help us moveforward but to ask some of these
great questions that we'veheard in this conversation today
and to really let those answersrise, give them some space,
whether it be on a piece ofpaper or in a little voice note,
so that you can really begin todeal with where you are from a
(42:49):
place of authenticity, and startto identify what the vision is
based on, your current values,of where you want to go.
And then it's a step-by-stepprocess, right, that's the
beauty of coaching to help youengage those steps.
Coach Wayne (43:10):
Powerful.
Thank you, Stacy.
Coach Michael, before we getgoing and talk about our
end-of-season opportunities forfolks, what are your last words?
What would you have others inyour coaching space do so that
(43:31):
they, too, can be where you arein terms of the mindset, as they
age?
Coach Michael Taylor (43:37):
Well, for
me personally, the most powerful
thing that I've ever done wasaddress some childhood wounds
that I didn't recognize wereimpacting my life as an adult,
because I possibly had the worstchildhood you could ever
imagine.
I experienced every imaginabletype of child abuse, and it
(43:57):
wasn't until I did this workshopwith a guy named John Bradshaw
called Healing your Inner Child,and it was in that workshop
that I was able to learn, numberone, how I had disconnected
from my emotions, disconnectedfrom my feelings, and so I
processed everything from theneck up in my head, and so it
(44:19):
wasn't until I healed thatchildhood trauma that I could be
free.
Because I remember when I firststarted this process I was
really into the motivationalstuff Les Brown, anthony Robbins
I did the Anthony Robbinswalking on hot coals, barefooted
.
I was NLP, neuro-linguisticprogramming, but see, all of
(44:40):
that was intellectual, but itwasn't until I got into my heart
yeah and heal that trauma, thatpain, that I really became free
.
So, if nothing else, myrecommendation is to everyone to
to just make sure that you'rein touch with your primary
emotions and able to identifyand express them in a healthy
(45:02):
manner.
Coach Wayne (45:05):
Wow,
Coach Stacy (45:07):
Stacy
Coach Wayne (45:09):
I told you, Michael
is the man.
Michael is the man.
I love it, I love it.
That is what he said.
Coach Stacy (45:14):
He said Michael is
the man he's like we're going to
talk about this.
We got to have the man.
Coach Wayne (45:19):
Yeah, I'm not okay
with Gray.
How to create anional LifeAfter 50.
And the author, coach MichaelTaylor.
Michael has about 11 or soother books out there.
All great reads.
Coach Stacy (45:35):
Yeah, I was going
to say.
I think he said he has 16, 17books.
Coach Wayne (45:40):
Oh, okay, okay, and
I know you spoke to me a week
ago.
There's one coming off thepress now and another one
getting pressed, so I need yourhelp, michael.
You've been a coach in so manyways and a wonderful
accountability partner, but Igot to get a little bit of a
whipping to get mine out, soStacy.
(46:01):
Thank you, michael.
Coach, michael Taylor, how dofolks reach out to you to
connect?
Coach Michael Taylor (46:08):
Simplest
way is on screen right now,
coach Michael Taylor dot com.
Now, specifically for thebrothers out there who are
watching.
Ok, because that's likeyourself, wayne, that's.
My primary goal is to empowerblack men.
I have a site calledShatteredthestereotypescom, and,
for Black men who are ready todive into this personal
(46:31):
development space,shatterthestereotypecom is an
ideal place for brothers to getresources for their
transformation.
I just completed filming adocumentary called Shatter the
Stereotypes and it is going tobe powerful.
It is an opportunity forbrothers to see, number one,
what we're doing as Black men insociety, which you generally
(46:53):
don't see, but also to seewhat's possible for them,
because the media has said thisthing about, there's a lack of
Black male role models forever.
There's never been a lack ofBlack male role models.
There's only been a lack ofexposure of those role models.
So the shadow of thestereotypescom is an opportunity
for brothers to engage in thisprocess that we're talking about
(47:15):
, which is transformation.
Coach Wayne (47:17):
Powerful stuff,
thank you.
Coach Stacy (47:19):
Absolutely, thank
you.
So let me, let me ask Michaelso do you feel the target
audience for Shadow of theStereotypes dot com is that
midlife men, man, or do youbelieve that the age is relevant
?
Coach Michael Taylor (47:35):
I have.
I have a young man from 18 to75 that have number one.
I've got podcasts on therewhere I'm interviewing brothers
from around the globe that havenumber one.
I've got podcasts on therewhere I'm interviewing brothers
from around the globe.
I've got courses there.
I've got again access to theupcoming movie, the books and so
forth.
So it's for any Black man who'scommitted to his transformation
(47:55):
.
Coach Stacy (47:57):
Wonderful,
wonderful.
I'm also a mom of a Black manand so you know I'm always got
those two ears going like ohwait, oh, oh wait.
Thank you so much, kenneth.
Today's conversation is sodelectable, scrumptiously,
deliciously, edibly, tasty, good.
That's some good stuff rightthere.
(48:18):
I don't know what you all think, but I think that that's some
great stuff.
Thank you all so much forjoining us on this 60th episode
of the Midlife RevolutionUnleashed.
Coach Wayne (48:28):
Wayne tell people
how to get in touch with
yourself.
Coach Stacy (48:31):
I know you got some
stuff going on.
Wayne got some stuff going on.
Coach Wayne (48:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, Coach Michael, youstay awake many a night working,
as do I, and I told Stacy that,though we're taking a little
bit of a break for MidlifeRevolution Unleashed, we're not
going anywhere per se.
You'll be able to see repeatsand go on your favorite podcast
(48:56):
channels, youtube, and catch us.
Especially, we'll be replayingsome of the more popular ones
episodes, but I will belaunching a podcast in the
interim where I will be makingthat announcement, this before
the week is done, just so thatbrothers will understand.
It's a place for often theunspoken brothers, brothers who
(49:29):
are carrying a load, that arewearing that hard cover, that
skin, and are afraid to get outof the man box and become
vulnerable.
So what we're going to do istalk to these brothers about
their issues and create a group,a safe group, a place where
brothers can come together, holdone another up and you'll hear
a lot more about that in thedays to,S tacy, as we get out of
here, how do people get infront of you and get some of
(49:52):
that wonderful coaching that youoffer?
Coach Stacy (49:54):
Well, this
beautiful community knows that I
can be reached atthestacymlewiscom.
Certainly, if you are connectedto us on LinkedIn, on Facebook
or on YouTube, you are welcometo DM us.
I am so excited, Wayne, aboutwhat you are doing, and, Coach
(50:15):
Michael, again, thank you sovery much for joining us for
this special, special, specialepisode.
Wayne was right, we couldn'thave had a greater guest.
Coach Michael Taylor (50:27):
Hey Wayne,
real quick I want to throw
something out at you.
You said that I stay up lateworking.
Yes, sir, I want you to changethat.
I never stay up late working, Istay up late creating.
Coach Wayne (50:39):
Creating.
I love it.
Coach Michael Taylor (50:41):
There's a
difference.
Coach Stacy (50:43):
I was going to say
Coach Michael, Coach Wayne does
not need encouragement right now, staying up late.
The show up on the next day,you know, for some of us is
challenging.
Yet I do love the reframe.
We stay up late, creatingAbsolutely Love it, love it,
(51:03):
thank you.
Coach Wayne (51:04):
Listen.
If you want to reach out to me,hit VIPTransformativeLiving.
Absolutely Love it, love it,thank you.
Listen.
If you want to reach out to me,hit VIP transformative
livingcom.
You'll see all my handlessocial media access, email,
everything or just DM me makesit easy squeezy.
So we're going to connect withyou in the near future.
Stace, have yourself amarvelous summer and Coach
(51:28):
Michael.
Thank you, sir.
We're looking forward to thereleases.
I got to get back to you,michael.
I need to get your latest bookout in my library.
I think I have the last four,so I want to keep going.
Coach Michael Taylor (51:43):
I'm ready
when you are baby.
Coach Stacy (51:44):
Yeah.
I'm going to get a signed copyfor my son.
Something, something you can't.
I can't walk away empty handed.
It has been a joy and pleasure.
Thank you all for checking outthe midlife revolution on lease
season two, episode 60.
It has been our blessing toserve you in this capacity and
to spend this time with you,Michael.
Thank to spend this time withyou, Michael.
(52:06):
Thank you so much, Coach Wayne.
I'm sure I will see you beforewe start season three.
It has been my joy to work withyou.
Coach Wayne (52:15):
Yeah, michael, go
no place.
We're going to get you in thegreen room in a minute, thank
you.
Coach Stacy (52:21):
Bye y'all.
Coach Wayne (52:24):
And there you have
it, folks.
This week's episode of theMidlife Revolution Unleashed Bye
y'all solutions to spark newthinking and empower your
midlife journey.
And don't forget if you enjoyedtoday's episode.
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