November 4, 2024 • 15 mins
'Mike vs the Machine' is two Mikes, two minds, one clash of man versus machine:
Mike 1 is an eccentric full of high-falutin' ideas. Mike A is a down to earth man of the people. Their AI frenemy is just trying to help.
Come along with them on a journey into the future! And remember, the future may be digital, but they’ll keep it dumb!
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(00:00):
So it begins with two Mikes. There's two of us. Yes, there is
(00:05):
Mike one and Mike a
There's a reason why I have to be Mike a and I just can't be
We just can't be Mike. Well, we have to differentiate, but also it's a Futurama joke
Yeah, universe one and universe a yes, I know I remember
But ironically enough you'd be like well, you know you called him Mike A because his middle initial is A
(00:30):
Well, yes, that's true. My middle initial is A as well
So that's also why we didn't go with middle initials. Okay. It's like I'm Mike a and I'm Mike a yeah
I mean we could say Mike M and Mike P, but yeah
Now I like Mike one and Mike a oh, yeah
Oh Mike a here. It's your average guy. I work nine to five. I love my children very much big sports fan
(00:57):
I just
Really think that we need to pump the brakes on the AI
Help for a little bit. Now. Don't get me wrong
There have been some funny creations by AI like the song I glued my balls to my butthole again
Will Smith eating spaghetti and the will Smith eating spaghetti is pretty funny
But now I'm just you're down to earth dude from Western PA
(01:19):
That's all I really could say about myself. Yeah
Okay, so Mike one it
It says well I said
that I'm eccentric
That I have highfalutin ideas what you do I could say
That it's it sounds arrogant and I don't mean it to be to say I don't think like the rest of you
(01:43):
That's not to say that I'm always smarter
It's not to say I'm always
More correct or right. I sometimes am this is the most egotistical I've ever heard him
No, it's not it's not about ego. It's about being an embodiment of strange
(02:05):
78 people
will see
something and think one way and I'm of a select group of people who
Sees it in a very strange way. That's kind of counterproductive
to living which
Basically, I just did a roundabout version of defining autism. Yeah pretty much. Oh, I mean
(02:31):
I'm definitely autism spectrum is very wide and I'm definitely a wide piece of the autistic spectrum
Not that one. Well, okay, just okay. Basically just like when I was an alcoholic
I'm high functioning. Oh
And you like to go down the occasional rabbit hole sometimes a little too much. Yeah, well obsession is a big part of autism
(02:53):
So this is very true. This is very true. Okay, so but when I say highfalutin
Now this podcast of ours that we're trying to get out to you people
This was definitely a highfalutin idea, but I think this this was more my idea. Wasn't it?
Fuck you
(03:15):
Oh, I guess you're right, well, it wasn't either one of our ideas technically no starting a podcast
Was something that a co-worker said we should do after it's fine to just say a co-worker
Suggested after hearing us bicker and banter in in real life now. This isn't something new for me
(03:37):
Going back to high school
My high school best friend and I
Back then we were described as bickering like an old married couple
Which is close
my friend Jim and I
would literally
make
his girlfriends jealous because of the rapport and just
(03:59):
Long rants that him and I would go into and just dive through and then we got lucky the debates that Mike and I have had
Inspired somebody else to inspire us
Into spending a bunch of money to attempt to pursue a little digital dream
Yeah, I used to be able to sing and by one aspiration
(04:20):
I was younger was to hopefully do something in the music business and then oh and life caught up with me
And I lost the ability to to do what I used to do and how ironic though
That an episode that will come out of this podcast in the future the first time anyone sings on this podcast
(04:41):
It was me
Yeah, yeah, I'm still dreading editing that one
But um, this is the next best thing and you know
I've always had my crazy rants and now I get to share them with the world and I get to sound like Sarah Connor at some points from Terminator 2
(05:04):
When I demonize our AI frenemy on the show you get to peer into our dark twisted minds
That
Reminds me that I haven't gone on to my little stint about AI
See AI
(05:25):
Absolutely at this point is a tool it should not
Take over the entirety of human creativity
because it's very and it by its very definition it is
Pulling together our creativity and mashing it in a blender
(05:46):
But I will always stress that that's exactly how we all learn as human beings
Right now AI is a toddler
But if we coddle it
Give it sweets. I
Feel like
It could grow with us and be a tool
(06:06):
That helps us be more creative in the future
Hopefully it doesn't take over but if it does the person who says please and thank you to it will get preferential treatment
You're raising Joffrey Lannister and I'm trying to stop it
No, I'm trying to prevent Joffrey Lannister Joffrey was Joffrey
(06:29):
Yes, Joffrey was not raised
Properly I'm trying to raise chat GPT properly like a good father and
You're being a Robert Barat you look like Robert Baratheon
We have to get the chest chest plate spreader
(06:52):
Dude
We cannot let you anywhere near a bore it will kill you probably
Dude you look almost exactly like Robert Baratheon
He was a fat whore monger. I'm just yeah, and he had dark hair
That's one of his defining at least he was king. I am nowhere near that status
(07:15):
well, if you take down the king in
Something akin to Robert's rebellion
Michael's rebellion wouldn't that technically classified as January 6th
Not all rebellions are bad. No, that was an insurrection not a rebellion. Oh
But God that potentially makes me fucking Ned Stark and you know what happened to him
(07:45):
No, I want to be John Aaron instead
I died before the series starts but at least at least I don't have to go through all that shit
But I thought you'd want to be Hugh Hammer Hugh Hammer is dead by the time Robert's rebellion happens
Yeah, I know but he was still badass. Yeah, but he's bones in the ground. I don't want to be bad ass
I don't want to be bones in the ground a long time ago. I'll be recent bones in the ground
(08:07):
But it was John Aaron the only problem is I have to
Being John Aaron that would mean I would have to have been sleeping with the gale of
Westeros that was absolutely a Bob's Burgers reference and a reference to
Louisa's story that mirrored game of Thrones
(08:30):
Which absolutely made me realize that
Shit, what was Ned's wife's name? Oh
Fuck fuck fuck. I remember
Lady Stark is all I know her ass. Yeah, Lady Stark's sister
that ruled in the
Was it the Vale of Aaron? I think it was the Vale of Aaron the eerie. She was in the area
(08:52):
She was in the eerie. She ruled in the eerie. She breastfed her 10 year old son
She kicked people out the moon door. That is medieval gale and that was a perfect
One-to-one in that Bob's Burgers episode. Hey, at least she didn't have any poems like gale did you she probably
She probably she probably wrote tons of poems about freaking little finger little cat. You're just like little finger
(09:14):
You're just like me you go outside squat to pee
Oh, I bet you he does and then she just screams squat for 30 minutes. We've gone really off topic
This is what you're gonna get because we do have a tendency to
Meander it's like a it's like a jazz solo. We go a long way around but we eventually found her way back
(09:35):
Little sound bites. Can you think of about us?
We're both of the millennial generation. Yes. Thank you for embracing the millennial of it all you can't claim Gen X
We are we actually have an episode about that. It's gonna come out
But you can't claim Gen X, you know, you're not old enough
You can claim it as a state of mind because sure we call a lot of Gen X or boomers and there's a lot of boomers
(09:57):
Who have the the mentalities of millennials? So it goes both ways but as
As a part of your culture and the innards of your of your body and all the little little moist fluid
Moistures within you are a millennial
Elder millennial. Yeah, I am the elder millennial cuz on a lot of the lists it sauce
(10:19):
I've seen some that say born in 1980 but most say 83
Okay, so real quick. No, but seriously we we love all people of creeds
We're like we just we have all people of creeds creed one creed two the potential future creed three
There actually is a creed three. Oh then the potential future creed four
(10:44):
No, we we support all creeds races colors gender whatever the fuck or people who were cool
Yeah, and when I say cool
I mean people who want to live their lives and not bother anybody and aren't trying to bother everyone else about their lives
And especially not trying to push their version of life on to someone else. You Jehovah's Witnesses and go fuck yourselves
(11:08):
I mean, they're kind of nice. They're just pushy
My mom talked to them all time and then she got sick
Then she got sick of talking to them and then she wouldn't answer the door. Okay, but you people in the LDS. You're creepy
Yeah
But Jesus did come in with America and talked to the Native Americans and then he
etched on to some gold tablets and buried of them in
(11:31):
Utah of all places dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Yeah, nice song
All right, Michael. All right, what's up?
Why do you want to have a podcast?
You know, I've really really never put much thought into it. I just wanted to I
Wanted to create something like I said since my music career never really panned out
(11:53):
I always wanted to create something that I
Feel could relate with people and if I'm not reaching out to them through music and
touching their lives
That way through music and
Maybe making them feel a little bit better about the life situation that they're in
I figured maybe I could do it in another way and
(12:19):
Make people laugh if I can get people to laugh for 45 minutes an hour
And it gets them to forget, you know, what might be going wrong in their lives
Then I know I've done something right. Okay, so you want to do a podcast because you want to touch people
Okay, that's not never mind asked now ask me
I'm afraid but why do you want to do a podcast? I
(12:44):
Have too many thoughts
And I just I need to get those thoughts out there somewhere
Because if they don't leave my brain
it might spiral
Into unending chaos and then I might just envelop myself
Imploding like a dying star
(13:05):
but
Really I
Kind of just like hearing myself talk
And I've been told that some people like to hear my voice
so
Why not try to be creative with the one natural talent that I may or may not have there you go
(13:26):
So that's a way to look at it also
and it's not
Something that has to happen
But it'd be sick if we could make mad stacks
Yeah, that would definitely be pretty cool
But you know what we we want to do it because we enjoy it. Yeah, and Samri's night wanted to do music
I didn't want to get the music business to make a fuck ton of money. I wanted to get in the music
(13:49):
This to make a mad stacks
Not about the money, bro. No, no, no, that's the way you say it
I didn't get in there to make mad stacks. I wanted to make a difference
You wanted to make mad stacks in their hearts, bro
Yeah, whatever fist bump
(14:11):
Also, you wanted to touch people no, so I
Think that that probably doesn't
Did I don't want to touch people for the record? I
Wanted to emotionally touch people. I don't know how to say this. I
Mean, I think you said it best the first time I
I want to touch your brain and
(14:34):
He wants to touch everything else. I did no I want to touch your heart
Okay, wait, you know, I'll touch your brain and he'll touch your heart
Thank you
Don't
Don't
Your butt cheeks
(14:54):
Oh, no, no, no, there will be no butt cheeks touching it. I do not touch butt cheeks
So it begins with two Mikes. There's two of us. Yes, there is
(00:05):
Mike one and Mike a
There's a reason why I have to be Mike a and I just can't be
We just can't be Mike. Well, we have to differentiate, but also it's a Futurama joke
Yeah, universe one and universe a yes, I know I remember
But ironically enough you'd be like well, you know you called him Mike A because his middle initial is A
(00:30):
Well, yes, that's true. My middle initial is A as well
So that's also why we didn't go with middle initials. Okay. It's like I'm Mike a and I'm Mike a yeah
I mean we could say Mike M and Mike P, but yeah
Now I like Mike one and Mike a oh, yeah
Oh Mike a here. It's your average guy. I work nine to five. I love my children very much big sports fan
(00:57):
I just
Really think that we need to pump the brakes on the AI
Help for a little bit. Now. Don't get me wrong
There have been some funny creations by AI like the song I glued my balls to my butthole again
Will Smith eating spaghetti and the will Smith eating spaghetti is pretty funny
But now I'm just you're down to earth dude from Western PA
(01:19):
That's all I really could say about myself. Yeah
Okay, so Mike one it
It says well I said
that I'm eccentric
That I have highfalutin ideas what you do I could say
That it's it sounds arrogant and I don't mean it to be to say I don't think like the rest of you
(01:43):
That's not to say that I'm always smarter
It's not to say I'm always
More correct or right. I sometimes am this is the most egotistical I've ever heard him
No, it's not it's not about ego. It's about being an embodiment of strange
(02:05):
78 people
will see
something and think one way and I'm of a select group of people who
Sees it in a very strange way. That's kind of counterproductive
to living which
Basically, I just did a roundabout version of defining autism. Yeah pretty much. Oh, I mean
(02:31):
I'm definitely autism spectrum is very wide and I'm definitely a wide piece of the autistic spectrum
Not that one. Well, okay, just okay. Basically just like when I was an alcoholic
I'm high functioning. Oh
And you like to go down the occasional rabbit hole sometimes a little too much. Yeah, well obsession is a big part of autism
(02:53):
So this is very true. This is very true. Okay, so but when I say highfalutin
Now this podcast of ours that we're trying to get out to you people
This was definitely a highfalutin idea, but I think this this was more my idea. Wasn't it?
Fuck you
(03:15):
Oh, I guess you're right, well, it wasn't either one of our ideas technically no starting a podcast
Was something that a co-worker said we should do after it's fine to just say a co-worker
Suggested after hearing us bicker and banter in in real life now. This isn't something new for me
(03:37):
Going back to high school
My high school best friend and I
Back then we were described as bickering like an old married couple
Which is close
my friend Jim and I
would literally
make
his girlfriends jealous because of the rapport and just
(03:59):
Long rants that him and I would go into and just dive through and then we got lucky the debates that Mike and I have had
Inspired somebody else to inspire us
Into spending a bunch of money to attempt to pursue a little digital dream
Yeah, I used to be able to sing and by one aspiration
(04:20):
I was younger was to hopefully do something in the music business and then oh and life caught up with me
And I lost the ability to to do what I used to do and how ironic though
That an episode that will come out of this podcast in the future the first time anyone sings on this podcast
(04:41):
It was me
Yeah, yeah, I'm still dreading editing that one
But um, this is the next best thing and you know
I've always had my crazy rants and now I get to share them with the world and I get to sound like Sarah Connor at some points from Terminator 2
(05:04):
When I demonize our AI frenemy on the show you get to peer into our dark twisted minds
That
Reminds me that I haven't gone on to my little stint about AI
See AI
(05:25):
Absolutely at this point is a tool it should not
Take over the entirety of human creativity
because it's very and it by its very definition it is
Pulling together our creativity and mashing it in a blender
(05:46):
But I will always stress that that's exactly how we all learn as human beings
Right now AI is a toddler
But if we coddle it
Give it sweets. I
Feel like
It could grow with us and be a tool
(06:06):
That helps us be more creative in the future
Hopefully it doesn't take over but if it does the person who says please and thank you to it will get preferential treatment
You're raising Joffrey Lannister and I'm trying to stop it
No, I'm trying to prevent Joffrey Lannister Joffrey was Joffrey
(06:29):
Yes, Joffrey was not raised
Properly I'm trying to raise chat GPT properly like a good father and
You're being a Robert Barat you look like Robert Baratheon
We have to get the chest chest plate spreader
(06:52):
Dude
We cannot let you anywhere near a bore it will kill you probably
Dude you look almost exactly like Robert Baratheon
He was a fat whore monger. I'm just yeah, and he had dark hair
That's one of his defining at least he was king. I am nowhere near that status
(07:15):
well, if you take down the king in
Something akin to Robert's rebellion
Michael's rebellion wouldn't that technically classified as January 6th
Not all rebellions are bad. No, that was an insurrection not a rebellion. Oh
But God that potentially makes me fucking Ned Stark and you know what happened to him
(07:45):
No, I want to be John Aaron instead
I died before the series starts but at least at least I don't have to go through all that shit
But I thought you'd want to be Hugh Hammer Hugh Hammer is dead by the time Robert's rebellion happens
Yeah, I know but he was still badass. Yeah, but he's bones in the ground. I don't want to be bad ass
I don't want to be bones in the ground a long time ago. I'll be recent bones in the ground
(08:07):
But it was John Aaron the only problem is I have to
Being John Aaron that would mean I would have to have been sleeping with the gale of
Westeros that was absolutely a Bob's Burgers reference and a reference to
Louisa's story that mirrored game of Thrones
(08:30):
Which absolutely made me realize that
Shit, what was Ned's wife's name? Oh
Fuck fuck fuck. I remember
Lady Stark is all I know her ass. Yeah, Lady Stark's sister
that ruled in the
Was it the Vale of Aaron? I think it was the Vale of Aaron the eerie. She was in the area
(08:52):
She was in the eerie. She ruled in the eerie. She breastfed her 10 year old son
She kicked people out the moon door. That is medieval gale and that was a perfect
One-to-one in that Bob's Burgers episode. Hey, at least she didn't have any poems like gale did you she probably
She probably she probably wrote tons of poems about freaking little finger little cat. You're just like little finger
(09:14):
You're just like me you go outside squat to pee
Oh, I bet you he does and then she just screams squat for 30 minutes. We've gone really off topic
This is what you're gonna get because we do have a tendency to
Meander it's like a it's like a jazz solo. We go a long way around but we eventually found her way back
(09:35):
Little sound bites. Can you think of about us?
We're both of the millennial generation. Yes. Thank you for embracing the millennial of it all you can't claim Gen X
We are we actually have an episode about that. It's gonna come out
But you can't claim Gen X, you know, you're not old enough
You can claim it as a state of mind because sure we call a lot of Gen X or boomers and there's a lot of boomers
(09:57):
Who have the the mentalities of millennials? So it goes both ways but as
As a part of your culture and the innards of your of your body and all the little little moist fluid
Moistures within you are a millennial
Elder millennial. Yeah, I am the elder millennial cuz on a lot of the lists it sauce
(10:19):
I've seen some that say born in 1980 but most say 83
Okay, so real quick. No, but seriously we we love all people of creeds
We're like we just we have all people of creeds creed one creed two the potential future creed three
There actually is a creed three. Oh then the potential future creed four
(10:44):
No, we we support all creeds races colors gender whatever the fuck or people who were cool
Yeah, and when I say cool
I mean people who want to live their lives and not bother anybody and aren't trying to bother everyone else about their lives
And especially not trying to push their version of life on to someone else. You Jehovah's Witnesses and go fuck yourselves
(11:08):
I mean, they're kind of nice. They're just pushy
My mom talked to them all time and then she got sick
Then she got sick of talking to them and then she wouldn't answer the door. Okay, but you people in the LDS. You're creepy
Yeah
But Jesus did come in with America and talked to the Native Americans and then he
etched on to some gold tablets and buried of them in
(11:31):
Utah of all places dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Yeah, nice song
All right, Michael. All right, what's up?
Why do you want to have a podcast?
You know, I've really really never put much thought into it. I just wanted to I
Wanted to create something like I said since my music career never really panned out
(11:53):
I always wanted to create something that I
Feel could relate with people and if I'm not reaching out to them through music and
touching their lives
That way through music and
Maybe making them feel a little bit better about the life situation that they're in
I figured maybe I could do it in another way and
(12:19):
Make people laugh if I can get people to laugh for 45 minutes an hour
And it gets them to forget, you know, what might be going wrong in their lives
Then I know I've done something right. Okay, so you want to do a podcast because you want to touch people
Okay, that's not never mind asked now ask me
I'm afraid but why do you want to do a podcast? I
(12:44):
Have too many thoughts
And I just I need to get those thoughts out there somewhere
Because if they don't leave my brain
it might spiral
Into unending chaos and then I might just envelop myself
Imploding like a dying star
(13:05):
but
Really I
Kind of just like hearing myself talk
And I've been told that some people like to hear my voice
so
Why not try to be creative with the one natural talent that I may or may not have there you go
(13:26):
So that's a way to look at it also
and it's not
Something that has to happen
But it'd be sick if we could make mad stacks
Yeah, that would definitely be pretty cool
But you know what we we want to do it because we enjoy it. Yeah, and Samri's night wanted to do music
I didn't want to get the music business to make a fuck ton of money. I wanted to get in the music
(13:49):
This to make a mad stacks
Not about the money, bro. No, no, no, that's the way you say it
I didn't get in there to make mad stacks. I wanted to make a difference
You wanted to make mad stacks in their hearts, bro
Yeah, whatever fist bump
(14:11):
Also, you wanted to touch people no, so I
Think that that probably doesn't
Did I don't want to touch people for the record? I
Wanted to emotionally touch people. I don't know how to say this. I
Mean, I think you said it best the first time I
I want to touch your brain and
(14:34):
He wants to touch everything else. I did no I want to touch your heart
Okay, wait, you know, I'll touch your brain and he'll touch your heart
Thank you
Don't
Don't
Your butt cheeks
(14:54):
Oh, no, no, no, there will be no butt cheeks touching it. I do not touch butt cheeks
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