We welcome you to the very first episode of Milk and Honeys, where we're serving up laughs and keeping it real as two entertainers living in the mecca of entertainment in West Hollywood.
• Kayla shares her journey from WWE to Los Angeles two years ago from Florida
• Vanessa talks about moving to LA at 18 to become a Laker Girl dancer and her 18-year career in entertainment
• We discuss the rollercoaster journey of the entertainment industry with its highest highs and lowest lows
• Our mutual love for Boys Town and how we first met at The Abbey
• Deep dive into "The Substance" starring Demi Moore and why it should have won all the awards
• Honest conversation about Hollywood's impossible beauty standards and how you're "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
• Our current TV obsessions including "Paradise" with Sterling K Brown and documentaries on Ruby Franke and Apple Cider Vinegar
• Introducing our "Honey Hotline" where you can send in questions and stories
Follow us on Instagram @milkandhoneyspod and catch our full on-camera version on Youtube!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I like the way you move.
I like the way you move.
You know how to do it like onetwo.
Hi, welcome to the hive.
This is the very first episodeof the futurely is that a word?
Iconic and highly successfulMilk and Honeys.
We are your hosts.
I'm Kayla and this is Vanessa.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How are you doing?
I'm so good, I am so excitedthat we're here and we're so
excited that you guys are here.
And look, whatever you guys aresipping on, whether it's coffee
, wine or you know a little,something stronger- yes, please.
I'll take two, like we alwaysdo.
Yeah, we are here to serve upsome laughs and just be real,
and so let's just get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, I mean, listen, we're two girls who live in West
Hollywood, like the mecca oflike entertainment here in Los
Angeles, so I think we serve asgreat voices to everybody
listening of like, like, what'sgoing on here, what's happening
here, what you should be doinghere, what you should be talking
about, who you should betalking about respectfully,
obviously.
(01:12):
Um so yeah, uh, I think weshould, just before we dive into
anything, because we're stilllearning.
This is again our very firstepisode of milk and honeys,
which, by the way, we're tryingto like figure out how to
explain what milk and honeysmeans.
Yes, the way we're trying tolike figure out how to explain
what milk and honeys means.
Yes, um, the.
We just think the name isreally cool, but also we talk,
you know, stirring the tea,that's what?
Like the stirring the tea, yeah, and we're like the milk and
the honey that goes into the tea.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So we're creating the really clever tea.
Okay, we are creating the yummytea and we're honeys and we're
okay.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So I think off of that we talk about kind of how
we got to la.
Yeah, I can start.
I've been in la for almostright at two years.
My second lease is coming up atmy apartment, so that means two
years ago.
I moved to los angeles.
I moved here from florida, um,so I traded one sunny coast for
the other, because I don't messwith the cold weather at all.
If it drops below 60 degreesI'm like bolt the doors, I can't
(02:06):
come out to play.
But yeah, so I moved here twoyears ago.
I decided if I'm going to doLos Angeles, I'm going to do it.
I moved right in West Hollywood.
Right off Sunset I can walk toSanta Monica, to Boys Town,
which me and Vanessa, you'lllearn, love Boys Town.
We love Boys Town.
We love Boys Town, love BoysTown.
Queens of Boys Town we are.
We are the queens of the BoysTown.
(02:26):
Boys Town and I worked for theWWE.
For the last eight years Iworked for WWE traveling the
world, so it was really coolwith my job.
I could live wherever I wantedto, as long as I was near a
major airport and I could hop ona flight every Thursday to get
to Friday Night Smackdown intime.
Yep back down in time, yep um,and towards the end of my tenure
(02:47):
there, which I I quit wwe juneof 2024, I thought you know if
I'm going to try to look forthis next place in my life and
career, los angeles is the placeto go, because that's where all
the television and film andstuff is happening.
So that's how I got here.
You, I mean you've lived incalifornia forever.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So I'm originally from California, I'm from the
Bay Area East Bay 510 baby gottarepresent um.
I have been in Los Angeles, forI think the last time I counted
was 18 years oh, and you'reonly 19, which is crazy.
I'd like to think so.
(03:21):
Um, yes I, I moved here.
I was a dancer.
I've been dancing my entirelife.
I danced competitively.
Um, I moved out here when I was18, right out of high school,
because I got the opportunity toaudition for the lakers and I
was a laker girl dancer and somy parents were super supportive
, so I moved out here in 07.
(03:43):
Wow, right out of high school.
Oh, seven, I was a sophomore inhigh school.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, hold on a second I'm the baby.
I didn't realize how young shewas, okay, and so, yeah, that's
kind of how my career started.
I, I moved here, I did theLakers for a year and then after
that I've just full throttledmyself into the world of
modeling and acting and dancingand it's just been amazing.
(04:15):
I mean, look, it's a rollercoaster of a journey there has
been highs the highest highs andthere's been the lowest lows,
but I'm still here and I'm stillrocking and I still love what I
do and I I hope that I can, um,inspire people to do the same,
because it's never all justbutterflies and rainbows in this
(04:37):
industry, in the entertainmentindustry, but I feel like I've
been really good at being ableto mesh my passions together and
to create a creative job formyself, yeah, and just doing
something that you love, and Ithink that I think one of the
greatest accomplishments in lifeis being able to say that
you're doing something thatyou're passionate about, because
(04:59):
not everybody can say that andof course it's not going to be
easy to do that Like it's a,that is a goal that you just, if
you make that goal, you have tounderstand there's gonna be a
lot of shit that comes with it.
Yeah, I mean you have to realizethe nose yes, lots of nose are.
You have to let the nose feellike yeses in a way, in order to
(05:20):
keep yourself neutral.
I feel like in this industry,cause we hear so many no's and
then when you do get that yes,you get so excited.
But even when you hear a yes,sometimes you shoot something
and it never comes out.
So it's like it's.
It's kind of finding thatbalance, of not letting your
heart rate spike up too high orspike too low, but just knowing
you're doing your best, you'regiving your best and whatever's
(05:43):
meant for you is going to come.
And that's kind of been mymentality and, like I said, I've
I've had very supportive familyand friends around me for the
last 18 years I've been here.
So that is a huge thing to findyour tribe, find your people.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I think, like the theme song for this industry is
bitch be humble.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
for this industry is bitch be humble literally keeps
you humble for sure, no matterhow you could be on up here, and
then, literally the next dayyou're here, and then the next
day you're here, and then you'reback up here.
Yeah, it's it is.
It's a crazy thing and you gotto stay confident and, you know,
still love your life,regardless of which level you're
on.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You have to just go on the ride and just love the
ride.
I mean, you were recently in areally cool commercial around
Super Bowl weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes, yeah, I was in a commercial with Lil Wayne.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Lil Wayne, lil Weezy.
We love him.
Future friend of the show.
We hope.
Yes, we're going to bring himon.
We're going to manifest this.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, it was so much fun.
Um, I was.
It was for a C to fillcommercial and I was a bottle
girl in the commercial and thebottles were C to fill and they
had little sparklers and youknow it's for sensitive skin.
Obviously, lil Wayne was notasked to to do the Super Bowl
and I think that was a hugething for yeah for the Super
(07:09):
Bowl.
um.
So it was a really fun play onpeople, you know, thinking that
how upset he was and all thesethings and it was cool, it was
fun.
He was great to work with, hewas super professional and we
were were in and out, so it wasnice and it was cute, and it was
fun.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It was cute.
I watched it.
It was very fab.
Well, yeah, that's like alittle bit about us.
We're both entertainers indifferent worlds of
entertainment.
I've been broadcast hosting for10 years, like I previously
mentioned, predominantly withWWE, and I stepped down in June
this past year.
Now I'm just looking for thenext thing.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Maybe this is going to be the next thing you know,
maybe this is going to be thenext big thing.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Just chatting with my friend about, like you know,
things and things and places andpeople.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, no.
And to not to mention likewe're both Gemini's, by the way.
Oh, yes, we are both Gemini's.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I bet half the people who are watching just can't
just blocked this account theydon't want any more Gemini
energy in their lives and theyalready have, because anybody
who knows one Gemini.
So isn't that crazy?
Like anytime, I'm not ahoroscope.
I'm really not like.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I either, I'm trying like people.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I think a lot of people in my circle always want
to talk about like horoscopesand like all the things that
come around.
I just don't get it, but I doknow everyone fail, especially
like millennials and Gen Z'swant to be like what's your sign
?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And I'm like.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I almost want to lie these days, because when I say
Gemini, it's always like oh,okay, well, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Like bitch what makes sense.
See, I'm proud now.
I used to be that way, but alsoshe's younger than me.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I am She'll get there .
So I am so much younger.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Remember when she was talking about like 2007, when
she was not in high school and Iwas.
But I do think now it's so likeI see the beauty in being a
Gemini.
We're so adaptable.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You could put us in any room and we're going to make
friends, we're going to makeconversations, we're going to be
able to get people to tell usthings because they feel
comfortable with us and we'd bereally good like assassins.
Yeah, you know, I feel like Ifeel like we'd actually be good
at that.
Oh, for sure we could.
You know, we can coax peopleinto like telling us their
secret, their government secrets, absolutely and then use it
(09:17):
against them which we don't dothat, though, that's not the
type of gemini that we are butI've, I've, I've been around
Geminis who are that way so Isee it and I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, like even when I was younger, there was a
figure in my life who was aGemini and they were crazy.
And now that, as I look back asan adult and see the things
that they did, I look and I'mlike wait, this is like, I get
it, this is crazy like we're inthe same category as them, but
we shouldn't be.
We're very chill.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I feel like every Gemini says exactly what we're
saying, right?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
now.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, absolutely.
We think we're the exception tothe Geminis, but you're a June
Gemini.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And you're a May Gemini, so I think the June.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Geminis are known to be a little more awesome, a
little more crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh crazy, I don't know about awesome, but crazy, I
guess we're not finishing eachother's sentences quite yet.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We'll get there I want to talk about how you and I
first met each other.
Yes, so we met over two yearsago, because before I moved to
Los Angeles I was still inFlorida and I moved out here for
like a trial month and, funnyenough, I didn't know anything
about Los Angeles, I didn't havea lot of friends here, so I
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just picked a town or city thatI, or an area that I thought I
could live for a month.
I picked inglewood.
If you know anything about losangeles, I'm sorry, isn't the
place you.
I just didn't know.
I just thought, oh, it's got tobe near, like, like hollywood
no, it's like an hour and it'sI'm not not gonna.
I loved, I had a great time inEnglewood.
That's all I'm gonna say aboutthat.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
How long did you live there?
I did not know this.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
30 days by myself in an Airbnb.
My neighbors didn't speakEnglish and they did not like me
at all.
And then I found out, likeafter I moved out of my Airbnb,
that someone was squatting inthe back shed so Lovely.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But but that I was living here.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Sounds about.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Englewood Sounds about Englewood.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Sounds about.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Englewood, but I, we have mutual friends, yes, and I
was invited to West Hollywood, Ithink for one of my like first
West Hollywood experiences, andwe met at the Abbey.
We sure did honey.
We met at the Abbey and I wasso nervous to meet all these
like cool LA, because Florida iscool, but in a very different
way, like I live in stpetersburg like so tampa, not
(11:26):
miami, tampa and los angeles andwest hollywood are different on
like you can't even like yeah,and so I was so scared to meet
all these really cool we hopepeople.
And then I remember meeting youand I was like, oh my god,
she's so pretty and I was likeshe seems so cool.
I remember saying something toyou.
I was like I think I keptsaying you have such a cool
mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, I remember, Wait , I remember I was like what the
?
Did I just say to her and Iremember, and I remember, you
know, obviously we met from ourone of our really really good
friends.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, he does our hair .
He didn't do it today.
No, we did it on our own but,we learned from Ian.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
We learned from Ian Max Schen yes, shut up, yes,
king, yes.
So he introduced us and I justremember him telling me oh,
kayla is just such a cool girllike she reminds me so much of
you.
You guys need to meet and youknow, I obviously always take
everything with a grain of salt,but obviously open, and when I
met this girl at WeHo it was somuch fun.
(12:30):
We just usually when I go toWeHo I'm with all the gays.
You know, there's not, there'snot many girls.
Yeah, like hang out with us andjust like, seamlessly, just
hang out like with the on anormal basis, you know.
And so to have you come in andjust us hit it off right away,
we were laughing, it was, yes,she made the comment about my
mouth and I was like, oh, I metso kindly.
But and then, and so to haveyou come in and just us hit it
off right away, we were laughing, it was so fun.
Yes, she made the comment aboutmy mouth and I was like, oh, I
meant it so kindly.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And then I ended up asking Ian.
I was like listen, I knowpeople are like can you tell me
where she is?
He's like she's always had thatmouth.
I'm like okay, well, I was likewho's her doctor?
She's like Look at her.
You understand what I mean.
Thank you, she just has a smile.
Stop.
We did a photo shoot recentlyI'm just kidding and I saw, I
think, the caption or someonewas like something about your
(13:09):
lips or your mouth.
I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, it was probably , for I did a shoot for Allergan
.
Was that what it was?
Allergan Allergan, I think it'spronounced.
Sorry, oh, but like and it'sit's for like, a.
It's a skincare brand.
Okay, I did their campaign andso they did add the tiniest
amount of filler.
Okay, that's fine, because theyhave to.
Of course, it's like you know,you have to add it if you're
(13:33):
doing a campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It can't but you've, I saw your photos when you were
a little girl doing photo.
You did what?
Limited to, not limited to what?
Um, I did hello kitty, hellokitty.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, and r was my first.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You showed me a picture.
I'm like oh no, she's alwaysbeen this perfect, she's just
not perfect Well on the outside,but thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
We'll get to the inside.
Another episode.
Yes, yeah, that's a whole otherepisode, a two-parter, a
two-parter.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But yeah, I don't know.
But yeah, I don't know.
I do think I think we hit itoff.
You know, pretty quickly I feellike we I was traveling a lot
for work for the last coupleyears, so we haven't like been
able to really just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I feel, like you're the friend of mine, that we can
go to each other's houses andlike, or we sit and we just talk
and have wine, and then youknow, like we go to the store
and get maybe another bottle ofwine.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And maybe a third.
Yeah, and we're just liketalking and shooting the shit.
Great things happen on Tuesdays, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Literally.
You know, we've been gettingtogether the last few weeks and
just vibing out and it's coolbecause obviously you know, were
podcast compatible, podcastablelike compatible, but
podcastable compatible.
What is it compatible, podcompatible?
(14:54):
We got it.
I think we are.
I think we are with that, rightthere.
I think we are, we're figuringit out.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, speaking of figuring it out, that's what
we're doing Obviously, episodeone of Milk and Honeys, we're
going to figure it out, andwe're going to figure it out
with all of you who are tuningin week to week, clearly, since
we live, like I said, in themecca of entertainment and
Hollywood and whatever.
We're going to talk aboutthings that we are all hearing
and reading every single day,watching on the tiktok, uh,
(15:25):
which I consume way too much of,are you?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
tiktok.
You know I I'm starting to getto a place where I am a doom
scroller, tiktoker, yes, um, II'm like in bed and I'm usually
an instagram girly, but therehas been more nights, as of late
, that I go on Tik TOK and I'mjust an hour goes by and I'm
(15:47):
like, oh, I know my alarm, Ineed those eight hours, like I
gotta go to bed, you know, andyou're saving things to, to, to
maybe do later on, and I'm likeI never do them, I never.
I save them a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I feel like I use it a lot for recipes, like I do do
a lot of recipe saving and Iactually do, and then I'll do
some like there's a coupleworkout chicks on there so I'm
like, okay, I, I will followtheir workouts at the gym, yeah,
and then I like to share likereally in my opinion, hilarious
fail like people getting likehurt and falling down.
Yeah, which is one of myfavorite things in the world is
(16:24):
seeing people because I'm verycalm.
Like today we wanted to havelike a couple mimosas before our
first episode.
Yep, and I was walking before Ieven had the mimosa.
I was walking back in the storeand all these cars are lined up
and I like was this close toeating it?
Like I mean, I tripped so hardto where people like looked
where they're concerned about me, yeah, and that's that would be
(16:46):
.
If someone got that on camera,that would be really funny and I
would watch it on TikTok.
So that is my and I would notbe mad if that was on TikTok,
I'd understand.
No, because that brings so muchjoy is watching other people
fall as long, as long as they'reOK.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
OK, just you know, just disclaimer as long as
everyone's actually okay in thevideo, because I like those
videos, but when it's like toomuch, I do cringe and I feel bad
and then I just want to like gothrough the screen and help
them.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think you're way nicer than I am.
I know I am that's good, thoughI think it's a good balance.
I feel like you're an empathtoo, you know what I am an
empath I am, but I am sometimestoo much of an empath Like, too
empath.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Just pull it back a little, like this is actually
not happening to you.
Yeah, but I no you know, don'tchange.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I think that's good.
No, I think that's good.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You know, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Now I'm going to like pay closer attention to how,
how empathetic I can be.
I'm not so qualified to becalled an impact.
Maybe that card should berevoked for me, I don't know.
Well, it's been a crazy awardseason, it has.
We're in the midst of that.
It has.
We've had the Grammys.
(17:58):
We just had what?
The?
The SAG Awards, the SAG Awards.
I don't know when this episodewill be hitting you, but at this
moment, this is the day beforethe.
Oscars which we're all excitedabout, so excited about.
What have you thought about theaward season this?
This year it's been.
I think it's been really coolseeing like.
(18:19):
I mean, I don't know, I feellike I haven't paid that much
attention to it in previousyears, but I know like
everything it can be verypolitical about, like who is
taking home.
I know there's been a lot ofcomplaints.
There's also been like a lot ofreally exciting people and
projects that are getting, Ithink, respect and
acknowledgement they've deservedAbsolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I, I understand where you're coming from, with the
not really being aware of who'snominated and things like that
in the past, but I do feel sodeeply connected with certain
people who are nominated andit's and I, I like I need them
to win.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, like I need to me to me, to me, it's noti, it's
not Demi, it's not Demi, it'snot Demi Glades, it's Demi War,
it's Demi, demi War, demi War,demi War.
Will you come on our?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
show Demi War.
Wow, okay, she's got it.
Take, take seven.
Demi War, yes, is just havingher moment right now and I am
just.
I feel like I'm in the momentwith her.
I'm so deserving, oh my god.
(19:31):
She is just so deserving, she'sshe seems.
I don't know her personally,but she seems like just such a
cool person in general and it'sjust to take on the role in the
substance which I watched lastnight.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I know, oh my god, best.
That was my top movie of 2024.
It is top movie and I watchmovies.
Every like I watch a differentmovie, typically horror movie,
but a movie every single nightand that was my number one that
is my number one so far, for2025 as well.
Oh, I watched it're predictingthat nothing is going to be
(20:06):
better than that for the nextwe're only in February March.
Are we in March, yet Is todayMarch 1st.
Is it we're filming this onMarch 1st March?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
1st, it is March 1st of 2025.
Okay, and so far best film I'vewatched.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So 2024, yes, absolutely, but this year this
year, and, to be fair, youwatched it very late.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, I did so, I think if you, yeah, so it's okay
, even though not watching itand only seeing clips that I've
seen of it prior to this.
Yeah, I even said to myselfwell, she deserves to win it all
.
Yeah, so then, now that I'veactually watched the film, last
night.
I was literally I will put on afilm sometimes and kind of
(20:49):
clean.
I have two cats, so likethere's always hair everywhere
your cat's your cat's names Romyand Michelle Romy and.
Michelle, oh, the loves of mylife.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That should actually be the portrait we put behind us
, literally.
We should do a whole.
Romy and Michelle photo shoot.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh my gosh, we should so you know, I put on movies
sometimes and I try to do thingsaround the house, but I caught
myself so many times last night.
I was in the kitchen, at onepoint, I think, putting the
dishes away, and when I tell youI turned.
I was staring at the televisionjust like this the whole time,
(21:24):
like with my arms crossed.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Like a dad or husband who doesn't want to watch a
reality show.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That they're yes.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And then they keep creeping in like watching,
watching, watching, until theyget so invested and they start
asking questions.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, and they come in and they're like oh my God,
rebecca said that I don't evenknow her name.
How do you know her name?
And that was you.
That was me.
I remember sitting on the couch, probably watching the film for
like a good 15 minutes, justlike you know, up against the
television, and then I looked tomy left and my dishes.
My dishwasher door was stilldown and I was like oh, well, I
(21:58):
also have.
Well, we also have ADHD, so thatdoes happen, you know.
So, like I, I was like, oh, Ineed to put the dishes away.
Still, I'll do it later I justkept kept watching it over and
over.
And I'm not a horror person no,she's not.
I am Kayla wishes.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I was a horror lover?
Yeah, I'm not.
She saw my bedroom for thefirst time and all I have in my
bedroom are photos of iconichorror movie scenes.
Yep, that's the kind of sickindividual that I am, and I love
it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I wish I could be that way, but I just genuinely
think when I watch certainhorror not all horror, because I
do love suspense and action andall that but when I do watch
certain horror films, I feellike it's gonna happen to me and
it gets kind of wish, asubstance would happen to me
like that's what we want.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, I mean not, not, not by the end of the movie, but
I don't want my goop to just.
Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Definitely not.
But this one I even told KaylaI was like I watched it at night
.
I watched it at night, and youknow why?
Because I was like I can dothis and it's Demi Moore.
And I did.
And I wasn't.
I slept like a baby last night.
(23:20):
I didn't have nightmares, Iwasn't scared to go take a
shower.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I feel like that's not really one of those horror
movies, though that would makeyou scared.
It's not Because, like what inthat movie could happen to you,
right, unless you're like takingUnless I get an exhilarator, is
that?
What?
Or an accelerator.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Unless you make the steps to like do it, yeah,
you're gonna be safe yeah, butlike boohoo, like chasing you
with an axe, most of the timeI'm not.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I'm probably not gonna watch you're gonna watch
that and if I do watch it, it'sgonna be at like 12 pm with like
a lot of sunlight and likemaybe 10 people at your house
with you, absolutely, and you'renot leaving you're spending the
night the thing about demi thatI appreciate.
So she's obviously she's been inhollywood forever.
Like we grew up I mean our, yeah, mom grew you know like she's
always been around and I readsomewhere, so I there's this new
(24:05):
show called um land man, whichis a really great like if you're
a fan of yellowstone or any ofthat kind of western stuff, it's
a great show.
Um, anyway, she has a verysmall role in there and I don't
know when she took the role orwhen that was filmed, but I know
I read something that was likeshe was planning on just like
stepping on hollywood, beingdone with hollywood and quitting
hollywood, because like nothingwas really like lining up for
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her, and I feel like that rolethat she took, which came out
like right around the same timethe substance did, I feel like
that was her last role in hermind, yeah, and then she was
presented with the substance andit's completely revitalized her
career and I feel like she'sgotten like a second wind and I
only hope that directors and andproducers and writers are
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looking at her for more projects, because she embodied, like she
embodied this role.
In a way.
I don't think anybody else likeI was trying to like run down
what other, like actresses whoare around the same age with the
same notoriety, could have doneas good of a job as Demi?
Yeah, and I honestly couldn'tcome up with that many.
No, and I feel like it had tobe such a personal role for her
(25:10):
too because, like, I walked outof that that film as a woman in
Hollywood.
We're in our 30s and yes,that's not, but in Hollywood it
can be perceived as as old.
And I have been going throughall this like, oh my God, like
I'm not in my you know, I'm not22 anymore Like maybe I need to
start getting this done, orgetting this little nip tuck
done, or getting this like face,like all these things.
(25:30):
I've been going through my headas an on air personality and I
head as an on-air personalityand I walked out of there just
like you know what, it doesn'tmatter what the hell you do to
yourself if you're not doing itfor your own personal joy and
fulfillment.
It doesn't matter because atthe end of the day, as we saw
the end of substance, your wholecareer and life and the memory
of you is going to be wiped away.
(25:51):
Yep, just disposed of andeveryone's going to forget you.
I mean, yes, yes, people leavelegacies, but if you look at
some like this new generationcoming through, they don't know.
I've been seeing people do thisFresh Prince of Bel-Air trend
lately.
I'm like y'all don't even knowwhat Fresh Prince of Bel-Air is.
Wait, what is the trend?
It's like this like there was amoment when, like Ashley Banks
(26:11):
was like dancing in her room andthen will walks in and then
like she has her headphones onso she doesn't realize he's
watching her and he like startsdoing.
I'm like y'all are like 22doing a will, like a will smith
freshman spiller impression.
You don't, I guarantee you'venever watched an episode of that
show.
Yeah, but that is just how itis these days.
People are just like wipingaway, like the legends and the
like iconic, like performances.
(26:31):
Just you just get washed away.
So anything that we do foranything that we do, especially
as women, to ourselves, needs tobe.
I get botox for myself honestlyI just like the way I look
better with some botox I'm gonnabe honest about that, and
honestly, not because I'mworried about a casting director
, no and honestly, it helps mymigraines I'm not gonna lie, it
helps my my, I get, I have, Iget masseter botox because I
(26:55):
grind my teeth like my teeth arelike down and up, like I do it
for like but it does make mefeel better like I don't have
any botox right now.
Obviously you can see like Ihave no, okay, no, no, but then
screw you.
No, no, but it is no, but it isit is like it is gone.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I haven't gotten.
I am due for another session,right, and I have been getting
headaches like more often in themorning.
So I kind of didn't do itbecause I was like, okay, let me
see, let me see, cause it didfeel like it helped.
And then I stopped doing it andI'm like, let me just let this
be a moment where I can askmyself is this actually helping
me with my migraines?
I've been, I've had migrainesmy entire like since I was in
(27:31):
high school.
Really, I migraine medication,all the things.
But I'm not gonna lie, botoxdid help me.
I'd say like 70 of my migrainescut because of botox.
So, but at the end of the day,not that we're just talking
about botox, but like, at theend of the day, do we're looking
for sponsors?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
yeah, if so, if any botox?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
people out there want , you know, get in on our
migraine and our clenching jawsStick me, prick me.
But there's a way to do itright.
I mean, like, demi Moore looksfantastic, she looks so good, oh
my God, so good.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And people want to.
They want to hate on her, theywant to hate on anybody, they
want to hate on anybody.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Because if you're, if like we said, if you're too
skinny, it people hate on you.
If you've gained weight, yeah,people hate on you, and it's
it's just who cares?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I don't understand why this is a topic of
discussion like stop stop beingso worried about how other
people like choose to hang like.
I'm gonna talk about selenagomez.
Bless her heart.
Like she has had a rough go atit since she honestly probably
since she started dating justinbieber, which was how many years
ago now?
Yeah, no, people have just notlet it go right.
(28:46):
So I saw this side by sidephoto of selena gomez on red
carpets.
One was from last year, uh,wearing a white dress, and then
from this year at the SAG Awards.
Sag Awards Beautiful in both.
But all the comments on theleft side was like she looks
like a tank.
Maybe it's time for her to goon Ozempic.
She's so fat.
And then now in this one whereshe's lost all this weight, it's
(29:10):
like wow, looks like somebodyjust had to be lazy and go on
Ozempic.
Someone should tell her thatskinny isn't prettier.
I'm like you cannot win withthese people like it's like
you're damned if you do, youdamned if you don't.
And people want to be like well,you chose this life, you chose
this career.
You should be able to handle it.
Not one mother person who is onyour television signed up to be
(29:31):
constantly bullied and beratedfor the way they look, like it
doesn't matter how much moneyyou're making.
We see, we see it andunfortunately, we see like
people who take their own livesbecause of you know, because of
the way, because of comments,because of comments.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's like it does matter like it does and and I
and I think that it's it is sucha tough industry.
It's.
That's why I'm saying, watchingthe substance, I felt so many
things.
I'm a 35-year-old woman andI've been in this industry since
I was 15 years old.
Looking back even 10 years ago,I'm like, oh, I look back and I
(30:10):
remember feeling like I was sofat.
I had an agent one time touchthe side of my butt, and this
was before, like butts were athing obviously back in the day.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Thanks for asking.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But this was before.
Like having a booty was cooland I will never forget.
Like one of the agencies I wentin to have a meeting with, they
touched the side of my butt andthey were like, can you shave
off this?
Just like, maybe like five,seven pounds on.
I'm like, oh, that's my bone, Ican't really do that.
And so it had me such like somany weird moments in my life I
(30:48):
remember from.
That moment led me and it'slike I think back and I look
back on photos, 10 years agoeven, and I'm like, oh, you
looked amazing, but I didn'tthink yeah, because you're not
made to feel that right, and I'mso worried about what other
people thinking and things likethat.
So you know, at the end of theday, demi, demi, okay, my gosh,
(31:09):
we're gonna, we'll figure it out, we will figure it out.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think again she should come on the show and
correct us.
Yeah, would be the best courseof action we would love to have
you but also we think you'refreaking incredible and such an
inspiration to like you knowwomen everywhere and it's just
hard, even like the Kardashiansare funny to watch, which I have
always watched their shows.
It's so funny to watch, likethe like when they first hit,
(31:35):
everyone was like, oh wow, curvyis in the big ass.
You know the hips like the bigboobs, like embracing all of
that, and of course, they gotlike their work done and their
bbls or whatever.
Great more power to you.
But now if you watch their show, everyone is getting super
skinny again and it's like theyare.
I mean, we're being real andI'm not hating on them for it.
This is just.
This is their business.
They are the trendsetters whenit comes to women and what's
(31:57):
normal and considered beautifulin Hollywood, absolutely, and so
I think Kourtney Kardashian hasdone a good job of kind of
stepping away from that,especially in watching, but
she's also just had a baby withTravis.
Barker, whatever.
It's just hard.
It is hard, like I know, for me.
My weight's always fluctuated.
I'm very short, so like fivepounds can look like 20 pounds
on my body and I'm like, if youlook at my mom, like everyone
(32:18):
just has big hips and big butts,like that's just how we're all
built.
But towards the end of my timewith WWE, I was getting a lot of
like Kayla's got so fat, like Igot a lot of stuff like that
too, and I've always beenself-conscious.
Like from being a little girl.
I was very self-confident.
I was a fat kid, like I reallywas a chubby kid and to the
point where, like I had people,like my parents, had me go on
(32:40):
like a weight loss journey inorder to participate in like a
beauty pageant Really, and like,looking back, it needed to
happen.
Like I was like kind of going,like I was a fat kid.
But I was raised in the Southwhere, like, mothers harp on
their daughters about like beingskinny beauty beauty exactly
are.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It is it so as an adult.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm like so when I'm getting all this about me.
So then I lost a lot of weight,like this past year I got like
super skinny.
So my friends were likesomething you know, maybe you
should so, but but even theinternet then was like oh wow,
like she's like uglier.
Now I'm like you're damned ifyou do, you're damned if you
don't.
And again I think the overallmessage that I took from the
substance was like and that andthat was, it doesn't matter,
like be happy with yourself,like be like confident in who
(33:25):
you are, not because of anybodyelse.
What they're saying in your ear, yep, and then that is like how
you're going to be happy,because otherwise you know it
doesn't work.
It doesn't work, that's justthat's just the, the message to.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Every time.
They would call the the bossman right in the film and say
and and uh dennis quaid andargue yes, and our the ultimate.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We wasn't even supposed to have that role.
He got someone, he was replacedsomeone last really for that.
It was he was phenomenal, hewas.
He represented every disgustingman.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I've ever worked for.
And also Caroline.
What is her name?
Carolee, farge, farge, I thinkshe says Farge.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Farge or Carolee, I think it's Coralie Farge.
Coralie, I think.
Coralie Farge.
I think If we are incorrect, wewill correct that we apologize,
but regardless bra va chef'smother effing kiss Like she.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I watched an interview with her and it's just
how everything was filmed soperfectly, yeah, like even in
the bathroom scene where hecomes in and he's talking and
peeing and saying how old she isand all these things and just
talking negatively.
It's.
It's one of those things whereI I saw in an interview.
She said we had a wide cameraand we kept it there.
(34:44):
That's all one shot.
And I didn't realize that when Iwas watching it, until I saw
the interview and I she goes.
Everything in the film.
We wanted to be so symmetrical,even the hallway where she
walks down with all her posterson the side, and because that's
what she wants, that's what theywant, that's what the people
want is perfection, right, butit's.
It's not.
Everything else that you see inthat film is not perfect, but
(35:09):
when it came to the actual um,the camera angles, they were so
specific and it was just just tohear her talk about it.
It's just specific and it wasjust just to hear her talk about
it.
It's just brilliant.
Like she's just brilliant andjust the cinematography is just
oh, shout out to our femalebosses in Hollywood, absolutely
yes, I love it, which is what weare aspiring to be.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yes, starting today.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah Well, we were manifesting, and now we're here.
So it's all the small stepsthat create the big journey, and
so I'm trying.
I like that, small steps.
Yeah, I'm trying to rememberthat those small steps should be
celebrated just as much as thebig accomplishments that
obviously we know and theoutsiders know.
(35:53):
But you know, like this rightnow is like a small step for us.
We met, we had this idea andnow we're here Exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
We're doing this so that's great and giving
ourselves like credit and patson the back for that.
I know I'm really guilty.
I think one of my biggest flawsand I have like none I'm
kidding.
Oh my God, I need to live like.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Kayla.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
OK, I think I.
But what I was like?
Oh my god, I need to live likekayla.
Okay, I think I'm guilty.
I think also it just goes with,like the career path that we
took I do care a lot aboutpublic perception and like what
other?
people think.
And when I quit my job I waslike, oh my god, like I better
start like doing something bignow, where people are like, oh
wow, she can't make it withoutwwe or she like needs a machine
behind her to make it.
And it's like to where I'm noweight months removed and I'm
like I've had some smallvictories since then and I've
(36:40):
done some cool stuff, but Ihaven't like let myself
acknowledge it and like live init a little bit and give myself
any credit, because I'm like, no, but like the world hasn't seen
what I've done yet, and it'slike, no, kayla, like you can't
keep looking, you can't keepdoing that to yourself because,
yeah, you have to celebratethose small things.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
And the world doesn't deserve to know all of our
small wins they don't.
Not that they don't deserve youdo deserve to know all of our
small wins, but we don't need toshare them.
Some things can be private andinternalized and it's that
moment where we realize, oh, wedid make that small step that's
going to lead to a biggerpicture, because I am guilty of
(37:21):
seeing the bigger picture andgetting anxiety over everything
that has to lead up to that bigpicture?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
And instead of having fun with it, then you're just
like worried about it.
You know what I mean, so I'mglad like we're taking a small
step.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
We are.
We're taking a very small step.
Yeah, one giant leap from man.
Wait, what's the?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
one, one giant leap for mankind.
No, anyway, we'll, we'll figureit out.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
OK, we land, we're landing on the moon.
We are.
This is you.
Welcome to the moon.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Mankind, did you watch that show?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
no, wait, wait.
Okay, let's talk about whatwe're watching yeah, what wait?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
what's mankind?
Mankind is a show about thesepeople living in space.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Okay and I'm interested, I love space.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, so basically mankind is about, instead of the
Americans landing on the moonfirst.
What if the other people landedon the moon first, like the
aliens?
No, no, no.
Who were we against?
Like….
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Dennis, you know what we're talking about.
Can you also?
Can you quote what we weretrying to quote?
Which one?
One small step for man, onegiant leap for mankind.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
We just combined the two.
One small step for man, onehuge step for mankind.
We'll get it one day.
Wait, but for mankind, what wasit?
It was the Americans notlanding on the moon, but the
russians okay, so you know right.
Yes, okay, so the russianslanded on the moon first, okay,
(39:03):
and then it kind of spirals, soit's like, if that's how it
starts that's a watch that andit's amazing it's okay, wait.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Where can I watch it like when?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
is it?
I need a new show.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I'll find it.
Yeah, technology, there's somany streaming services.
There are so many, I know.
I've been trying to.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
What?
The one that we both arewatching that we need to talk
about is Paradise.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Oh, my Okay, sterling K Brown A.
I loved him from this Is Us.
He is such a good actor.
Then I saw his movie.
I just watched wave.
It's called wave, okay.
Anyway, this guy is just, it'sbarren and you know, he turned
down.
He got offered a role on theboys, which I love the boys but
he turned it down to do this.
So I think it was like eitheror because of like filming
schedules and he made the,because I think the boys is on
(39:47):
this last season and it's allnew.
Fuck, it's all new.
Um, I haven't figured outcussing yet on this show.
By the way, I have a pottymouth.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I know I do too, but I've been good today.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I don't know the YouTube rules.
I'm going to Google the YouTuberules of cussing after this
episode, and then we'll say allof our potty words.
Anyway, he was so freaking good.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
He doesn't even have to speak and you know exactly
what he's saying.
That's an actor.
That is an actor.
That is an actor, an actor, anactor.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Such a good show if you're not watching it.
The finale, I think, is thisnext week, but basically it's a
post-apocalyptic scenario whichI think we all think is like
when stuff gets real up here onEarth is there a place that you
can go, selected people that cango, that can kind of rebuild.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And so anyway go, yep , uh, selected people that can
go that kind of rebuild and soanyway, I'm so excited for the.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, we don't want to ruin it for anybody, by the
time this air, by the time thisairs, I'm sure that has aired
yeah, phenomenal show phenomenal, like it's just the best show
on television right now.
I I'm saying well, you know,and I feel like I was kind of
skeptical at first, I think thislast episode, which is episode
seven, I believe, was what iswhen he was talking to his wife.
That was one of the bestepisodes of television I've seen
(40:58):
in in quite a long time.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
They captured the chaos of the world actually
ending so quickly.
Yeah, in the oval office.
In the Oval Office, yeah, andthen in the betrayal, the
devastation, like it was just.
It was just pure perfection ofa chaotic scenario.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I think it seems like it'd be pretty on par with what
will if that happens, I'd saywhen that happens is more
realistic.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I don't think it's an if anymore.
I think it's when.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean we may not be alive when it happens but
eventually, what about theasteroid or whatever that's
supposed to hit the UK?
And now?
Okay, so here's my thing Afterwatching this last episode so
this whole like asteroid orwhatever was like a 2% chance it
was going to hit the UK in likeeight years.
Cool, now there's no chance.
(41:56):
I don't trust that at all.
If you, if you tell people, ifyou tell humankind that, hey, in
eight years this could happen,mayhem is going, it's gonna
break out.
Everyone's gonna be startingbuilding bunkers, buying land,
like.
I don't trust any government,honestly, when it comes to like
when the world is going to end.
No, I don't think they're gonnatell us.
Just like we saw on that show,they didn didn't tell the people
until he had the change ofwanted to like and it was too
(42:17):
late.
I don't think we will be toldif a massive asteroid is heading
towards us.
I just don't think we will be.
I think they're going to keepthat from us, because what's
going to happen Anytime?
Anything crazy happens inpolitics?
Everyone goes batshit crazy.
It's chaos.
Yeah, goes batshit crazy, it'schaos, yeah, it's chaos.
Imagine the world's in eightyears.
I'll tell you right now I'm notapplying for any more jobs.
No, I'm going to go travel theworld and I might break a few
(42:40):
laws.
Yeah, don't quote me on that.
But I'm just telling you theworld is in eight years.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I don't care If it's eight years, it's probably going
to be four.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
It's probably going to be four, and you know what
I've always wanted to hijack acar, or at least learn how to.
Okay, I am not condoning this,by the way.
Vanessa said she will help me.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I am not a part of this situation.
What other shows are youwatching right now?
Okay, so Apple.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Cider Vinegar.
Oh my gosh, scam artist crazy.
And then the one you told melast night to watch.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I watched the first episode about ruby frankie.
What a psycho bitch you guys,who does things like that?
Speaker 1 (43:26):
who does that like?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
who I just I, oh my gosh, I have two nieces.
Okay, like I don't have a lotof kids in my life, but I have
two nieces in my life that I amobsessed with and I love so much
.
If someone has so little to dosomething just wrong to them, I
would literally kill you.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I mean not.
I mean I've only watched thefirst episode.
Like I can't wait I'm probablylike tomorrow to lay on the
couch and watch the other two,uh, that are out.
So I was raised in a fosterhome.
So I was from age 9 to 18.
I was in a foster family, sothere was a ton of kids like six
to kids so I was kind of putmyself in like their shoes or
whatever.
My foster parents never even.
Yeah, of course they disciplineus the way you're supposed to
(44:00):
discipline your kids, but whatRuby Frankie was doing and like
the fact they've released all ofthis footage that wasn't seen
the way she would talk to herkids and like I, it makes me
sick to my stomach, yep.
And then it was able to go onfor so long until they were
making $100,000 plus a monthabusing their children.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
It's insane that the documentary has this new
documentary has their two oldestchildren and their or her
husband.
Yeah, and well they, at thetime of filming, I believe they
were still married, but at theend, well you'll, you'll find
whatever, don't spoil for me.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Sorry, I'm not spoiling for you.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But I mean, would you still be with somebody like
that who's about to spend xamount of time in jail?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
for that, for that, no, the moment.
If I ever have kids and I findout my husband or wife or
whoever does one no, you're gone.
No, you're gone, you're gone,you're dead so it's.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It is interesting to hear their perspectives on
everything, because it's their.
Their perspectives are sodifferent between the three of
them and I just I, I really,really feel for this.
The younger children, becauseyou only get one childhood.
Yeah, you only get one I know.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
And that one does stay with you for the rest of
your life I mean, I'm atestament.
We're both testaments to thatand we'll get to that on another
episode because, I mean,vanessa and I, we have shared
with each other some unfortunatethings that happened to us when
we were kids.
That clearly has bled into ouradulthood and we've done the
best we can with it.
But one thing that we didn'thave to deal with because it
wasn't a thing back then waslike social media Cause we
(45:39):
didn't grow up with it and we'realways seeing like all of the
very personal, like she'sstarting their first period or
going through puberty the stuffthat Ruby just decided to put on
the internet about her childrenwho didn't have control over
that, and now that will alwaysbe on the internet.
It breaks my heart.
That is a form of violationthat, like I can't wrap my head
(45:59):
around yeah, there, there's,there's.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
These types of people prove to me that evil truly
does exist in human form.
Absolutely, and she is one ofthose people that I would put in
that category, like she doesn'teven have he, she doesn't even
have room.
I think in hell, I thinkthere's something darker and
she's going there.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I mean it's, it's, it's really weird kind of abuse
towards the helpless, whetherit's children or animals.
I do believe there's a deeper.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
The devil doesn't even want you no, and it's crazy
, like you I mean.
I'm sure you saw in the firstepisode where she's filming
herself and then just gettingangry because you can't get it
down.
Yes, and her face it's.
It was scary.
It's the switch, it's theswitch up.
It's like you think you'rewatching a scripted series but
you're not.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Honestly I actually I thought I was at first, oh
there's someone acting.
I literally thought.
When I saw I was like oh thisis someone like portraying her.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I'm like, oh no, no, this is actually footage of her.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Oh, let's just take a , take a breath, take a breath.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Oh my god, I can't wait, yeah that yeah, god bless
their hearts like the yeah thatshow is is.
It is intense, but yeah, thoseare my three top shows right now
paradise, apple cider vinegar.
I obviously already finished.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Can't imagine, I mean , there's so many people out
there who are lying about cancer, which is so strange, like it's
just like I think I just can'twrap my head around people that
I mean I'm, I'm probably crazy,same, but like that level of
crazy doesn't resonate with me,like lying about cancer
consistently for years andgetting money and creating like
(47:37):
I can't know understand that atall.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
No, my crazy is like getting maybe a little too drunk
and my laugh is like you knowand I'm like like screaming.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
We think we're crazy, we're not, we're actually not
crazy at all.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
That's my kind of crazy.
We're just fun and normal yeah,and maybe a little wild.
Sometimes we're wild.
I think our mental health ispretty much.
I mean, mental health isanother thing, but I think we're
going in a good path.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Okay, but like sometimes we're good people.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I think that's it.
We're good people who justlaugh obnoxiously Cause I do
when I like, listen to, likevideos or, you know, my
boyfriend or my mom usually it'smy boyfriend or my mom will be
like oh, you know, my boyfriendor my mom usually it's my
boyfriend.
My mom will be like, oh my gosh, I could hear your laugh in the
video.
You're not even in it and Iknow it's you.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
That's a great legacy to leave, is it?
I think so, I think okay Ithink, one day I'm okay.
This is a very morbid thing forme to say, but you'll learn as
the episodes go on.
I'm a very dark person.
Yeah, um, I think about likewhen I die, like at my funeral.
What will people say about Ifwhat they say about me is like
oh my God, you could always heara laugh in the next room.
That's the greatest thing to belike.
(48:38):
That's a great thing forsomeone to say.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
You know what I know, that's right.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Well, listen, I'm looking at the clock right now.
I told you we would run throughthis really quickly.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
So fast, I know, but we covered such great stuff
today too.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
We did, and this is kind of what you guys can expect
when you tune in.
It's going to be a learningcurve for all of us as we move
on.
Hopefully you guys subscribe.
We set up our Instagram account, which is Milk and Honey's.
Pod.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yes, milk and Honey's .
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Pod.
It's so hard these days to finda.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Milk and Honey's.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Pod Milk and honey's pod.
It's so hard these days to findhoney's pod milk and honey's
pod because you can't.
Instagram's been around toolong.
You can never find your like,what handle you want, because
somebody's already taken iteveryone.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Somebody has it and they're not using it, and then
they want to charge you for itand it's like, no, we're not
paying like a thousand dollarsfor this, absolutely not so milk
and honey's pod, and then we'realso on youtube as well at it's
milk and honey's.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
So, um, yeah, we're gonna also have.
Even we're also on YouTube aswell at it's milk and honey.
So, um, yeah, we're going toalso have.
Even we're calling our partycrashers.
We're going to have partycrashers come in and we'll have
guests.
Uh, I recently reached out toum some actor friends of mine
who are on like shows that youguys are probably watching.
We both have friends in theindustry, but also just like our
friends, who are just ourfriends, like, yeah, we hang out
in west hollywood, we have.
We love our gays, we love ourdrag queens, we love our trans
(49:56):
queens like we're gonna have aan array of people joining us
and even if you're not coming inhere physically, like in person
, we're gonna have uninvitedguests, right?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
so we'll you'll be able to dm or like call in and
ask us questions and we can giveyou guys advice, and it's the
best, to our knowledge, you know.
I mean, we've lived a lot oflives and life and so I think
through that we can give somereally great advice.
I think so too, and I'm excitedto do that for people, because
(50:29):
I've always had people give megreat advice who maybe are a
little older than me.
And like, at the end of the day, the only time that you really
have the best advice is ifyou're living through certain
things and you go through it andyou figure it out and what is
working for you, what's notworking for you.
So it's just, um, I'm excitedI'm excited for that.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'm excited it's gonna it's gonna be fun.
I think we're gonna name our ifyou guys want to send in
stories, whatever it's going tobe called our Honey Hotline.
I think that's what our workingname is Honey Hotline, Honey
Hotline.
We're going to be asking somethings of you guys.
Honey, honey, follow along withus.
This is going to be fun.
Vanessa and I are a good time,as you, I'm sure, could already
(51:11):
tell.
We have plenty of stories totell life experiences.
And I think we can just relateto all of you in a lot of
different ways.
We are yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I'm really excited.
I think that this it'ssomething to me that I've always
struggled with using my voice,and so I do think that this is
such, this has been such achallenge And've had moments
leading up to this, the last fewdays, of a somewhat like
anxiety, but not not a badanxiety.
I struggle from anxiety, so I Iunderstand when I'm feeling
(51:45):
certain things, I really sitwith it and I'm like, okay, why
am I feeling this?
And it's it's because I'm doingsomething so new.
Yeah, and you know, like yousaid, like we've been in this
industry for so long and ourwhole industry has to do with
other people's opinions, whetherthey're going to book us or
they're not going to book us,and it's that is just,
essentially.
(52:06):
That is what our job is right,like people are deciding for
this specific job or role ortitle, or you know.
And so I think I've struggledwith just using my voice as it
actually is, and so I'm excitedand I'm really like thankful
that you've wanted to do thiswith somebody too, you know.
(52:29):
So thank you.
Not somebody with you, I mean,yes, with me, but you know it's
like I've always wanted to do apodcast, but it is something so
personal and so being able to doit with you is just really
comforting and fun, and I just.
We have such a good time whenwe're together, so I feel safe
with you, so, thank you Allright, enough affection.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Well, listen, I think that wraps up our first episode
.
You are running out of time,but please come back, vanessa,
and I will open up more aboutyou know.
We want you to feel like you'reon the couch with us and that
you're our friend and that wecan, you know, share our
personal stories and lives withyou, and we will dive more into
our personal lives as we go on.
We'll dive more into ourpersonal lives as we go on, but
we appreciate you watching thisepisode, episode one.
(53:15):
It's going to go down infreaking herstory over here,
over here, yes and yeah, followalong again.
Social media, youtube, and then, if you do follow us on, when
you follow us on Instagram, wewill continue to roll out
information on how you can bemore involved, moving forward.
But absolutely, yeah, thankseveryone for watching.
Yeah, thanks everyone forwatching.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, I think that's it for today's pour of milk and
honey.
Yes, milk and honey, we'refiguring out taglines Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
So let us know if you like that one Submit more.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
But yeah, you know, don't forget to stir things up,
but like share the love, sharethe love, share the love.
We want to hear what you guyshave to say and we want to be
able to be voices for people whofollow.
Exactly that's the essentialgoal, absolutely.
We'll see you guys next time,is that?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
how we end it Is that how we end it, we're learning.
And that's it.
That is fine.
That's a wrap.
We need to get a thing.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
See, ya Deuces.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Deuces, deuces, peace .
Are we allowed to salute us atour age?
I like the way you move.
I like the way you move.
You know how to do it like onetwo.
Hi, welcome to the hive.
This is the very first episodeof the futurely is that a word?
Iconic and highly successfulMilk and Honeys.
We are your hosts.
I'm Kayla and this is Vanessa.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How are you doing?
I'm so good, I am so excitedthat we're here and we're so
excited that you guys are here.
And look, whatever you guys aresipping on, whether it's coffee
, wine or you know a little,something stronger- yes, please.
I'll take two, like we alwaysdo.
Yeah, we are here to serve upsome laughs and just be real,
and so let's just get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, I mean, listen, we're two girls who live in West
Hollywood, like the mecca oflike entertainment here in Los
Angeles, so I think we serve asgreat voices to everybody
listening of like, like, what'sgoing on here, what's happening
here, what you should be doinghere, what you should be talking
about, who you should betalking about respectfully,
obviously.
(01:12):
Um so yeah, uh, I think weshould, just before we dive into
anything, because we're stilllearning.
This is again our very firstepisode of milk and honeys,
which, by the way, we're tryingto like figure out how to
explain what milk and honeysmeans.
Yes, the way we're trying tolike figure out how to explain
what milk and honeys means.
Yes, um, the.
We just think the name isreally cool, but also we talk,
you know, stirring the tea,that's what?
Like the stirring the tea, yeah, and we're like the milk and
the honey that goes into the tea.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So we're creating the really clever tea.
Okay, we are creating the yummytea and we're honeys and we're
okay.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So I think off of that we talk about kind of how
we got to la.
Yeah, I can start.
I've been in la for almostright at two years.
My second lease is coming up atmy apartment, so that means two
years ago.
I moved to los angeles.
I moved here from florida, um,so I traded one sunny coast for
the other, because I don't messwith the cold weather at all.
If it drops below 60 degreesI'm like bolt the doors, I can't
(02:06):
come out to play.
But yeah, so I moved here twoyears ago.
I decided if I'm going to doLos Angeles, I'm going to do it.
I moved right in West Hollywood.
Right off Sunset I can walk toSanta Monica, to Boys Town,
which me and Vanessa, you'lllearn, love Boys Town.
We love Boys Town.
We love Boys Town, love BoysTown.
Queens of Boys Town we are.
We are the queens of the BoysTown.
(02:26):
Boys Town and I worked for theWWE.
For the last eight years Iworked for WWE traveling the
world, so it was really coolwith my job.
I could live wherever I wantedto, as long as I was near a
major airport and I could hop ona flight every Thursday to get
to Friday Night Smackdown intime.
Yep back down in time, yep um,and towards the end of my tenure
(02:47):
there, which I I quit wwe juneof 2024, I thought you know if
I'm going to try to look forthis next place in my life and
career, los angeles is the placeto go, because that's where all
the television and film andstuff is happening.
So that's how I got here.
You, I mean you've lived incalifornia forever.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So I'm originally from California, I'm from the
Bay Area East Bay 510 baby gottarepresent um.
I have been in Los Angeles, forI think the last time I counted
was 18 years oh, and you'reonly 19, which is crazy.
I'd like to think so.
(03:21):
Um, yes I, I moved here.
I was a dancer.
I've been dancing my entirelife.
I danced competitively.
Um, I moved out here when I was18, right out of high school,
because I got the opportunity toaudition for the lakers and I
was a laker girl dancer and somy parents were super supportive
, so I moved out here in 07.
(03:43):
Wow, right out of high school.
Oh, seven, I was a sophomore inhigh school.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, hold on a second I'm the baby.
I didn't realize how young shewas, okay, and so, yeah, that's
kind of how my career started.
I, I moved here, I did theLakers for a year and then after
that I've just full throttledmyself into the world of
modeling and acting and dancingand it's just been amazing.
(04:15):
I mean, look, it's a rollercoaster of a journey there has
been highs the highest highs andthere's been the lowest lows,
but I'm still here and I'm stillrocking and I still love what I
do and I I hope that I can, um,inspire people to do the same,
because it's never all justbutterflies and rainbows in this
(04:37):
industry, in the entertainmentindustry, but I feel like I've
been really good at being ableto mesh my passions together and
to create a creative job formyself, yeah, and just doing
something that you love, and Ithink that I think one of the
greatest accomplishments in lifeis being able to say that
you're doing something thatyou're passionate about, because
(04:59):
not everybody can say that andof course it's not going to be
easy to do that Like it's a,that is a goal that you just, if
you make that goal, you have tounderstand there's gonna be a
lot of shit that comes with it.
Yeah, I mean you have to realizethe nose yes, lots of nose are.
You have to let the nose feellike yeses in a way, in order to
(05:20):
keep yourself neutral.
I feel like in this industry,cause we hear so many no's and
then when you do get that yes,you get so excited.
But even when you hear a yes,sometimes you shoot something
and it never comes out.
So it's like it's.
It's kind of finding thatbalance, of not letting your
heart rate spike up too high orspike too low, but just knowing
you're doing your best, you'regiving your best and whatever's
(05:43):
meant for you is going to come.
And that's kind of been mymentality and, like I said, I've
I've had very supportive familyand friends around me for the
last 18 years I've been here.
So that is a huge thing to findyour tribe, find your people.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I think, like the theme song for this industry is
bitch be humble.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
for this industry is bitch be humble literally keeps
you humble for sure, no matterhow you could be on up here, and
then, literally the next dayyou're here, and then the next
day you're here, and then you'reback up here.
Yeah, it's it is.
It's a crazy thing and you gotto stay confident and, you know,
still love your life,regardless of which level you're
on.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You have to just go on the ride and just love the
ride.
I mean, you were recently in areally cool commercial around
Super Bowl weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes, yeah, I was in a commercial with Lil Wayne.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Lil Wayne, lil Weezy.
We love him.
Future friend of the show.
We hope.
Yes, we're going to bring himon.
We're going to manifest this.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, it was so much fun.
Um, I was.
It was for a C to fillcommercial and I was a bottle
girl in the commercial and thebottles were C to fill and they
had little sparklers and youknow it's for sensitive skin.
Obviously, lil Wayne was notasked to to do the Super Bowl
and I think that was a hugething for yeah for the Super
(07:09):
Bowl.
um.
So it was a really fun play onpeople, you know, thinking that
how upset he was and all thesethings and it was cool, it was
fun.
He was great to work with, hewas super professional and we
were were in and out, so it wasnice and it was cute, and it was
fun.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It was cute.
I watched it.
It was very fab.
Well, yeah, that's like alittle bit about us.
We're both entertainers indifferent worlds of
entertainment.
I've been broadcast hosting for10 years, like I previously
mentioned, predominantly withWWE, and I stepped down in June
this past year.
Now I'm just looking for thenext thing.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Maybe this is going to be the next thing you know,
maybe this is going to be thenext big thing.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Just chatting with my friend about, like you know,
things and things and places andpeople.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, no.
And to not to mention likewe're both Gemini's, by the way.
Oh, yes, we are both Gemini's.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I bet half the people who are watching just can't
just blocked this account theydon't want any more Gemini
energy in their lives and theyalready have, because anybody
who knows one Gemini.
So isn't that crazy?
Like anytime, I'm not ahoroscope.
I'm really not like.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I either, I'm trying like people.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I think a lot of people in my circle always want
to talk about like horoscopesand like all the things that
come around.
I just don't get it, but I doknow everyone fail, especially
like millennials and Gen Z'swant to be like what's your sign
?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And I'm like.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I almost want to lie these days, because when I say
Gemini, it's always like oh,okay, well, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Like bitch what makes sense.
See, I'm proud now.
I used to be that way, but alsoshe's younger than me.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I am She'll get there .
So I am so much younger.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Remember when she was talking about like 2007, when
she was not in high school and Iwas.
But I do think now it's so likeI see the beauty in being a
Gemini.
We're so adaptable.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You could put us in any room and we're going to make
friends, we're going to makeconversations, we're going to be
able to get people to tell usthings because they feel
comfortable with us and we'd bereally good like assassins.
Yeah, you know, I feel like Ifeel like we'd actually be good
at that.
Oh, for sure we could.
You know, we can coax peopleinto like telling us their
secret, their government secrets, absolutely and then use it
(09:17):
against them which we don't dothat, though, that's not the
type of gemini that we are butI've, I've, I've been around
Geminis who are that way so Isee it and I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, like even when I was younger, there was a
figure in my life who was aGemini and they were crazy.
And now that, as I look back asan adult and see the things
that they did, I look and I'mlike wait, this is like, I get
it, this is crazy like we're inthe same category as them, but
we shouldn't be.
We're very chill.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I feel like every Gemini says exactly what we're
saying, right?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
now.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, absolutely.
We think we're the exception tothe Geminis, but you're a June
Gemini.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And you're a May Gemini, so I think the June.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Geminis are known to be a little more awesome, a
little more crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh crazy, I don't know about awesome, but crazy, I
guess we're not finishing eachother's sentences quite yet.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We'll get there I want to talk about how you and I
first met each other.
Yes, so we met over two yearsago, because before I moved to
Los Angeles I was still inFlorida and I moved out here for
like a trial month and, funnyenough, I didn't know anything
about Los Angeles, I didn't havea lot of friends here, so I
(10:29):
just picked a town or city thatI, or an area that I thought I
could live for a month.
I picked inglewood.
If you know anything about losangeles, I'm sorry, isn't the
place you.
I just didn't know.
I just thought, oh, it's got tobe near, like, like hollywood
no, it's like an hour and it'sI'm not not gonna.
I loved, I had a great time inEnglewood.
That's all I'm gonna say aboutthat.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
How long did you live there?
I did not know this.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
30 days by myself in an Airbnb.
My neighbors didn't speakEnglish and they did not like me
at all.
And then I found out, likeafter I moved out of my Airbnb,
that someone was squatting inthe back shed so Lovely.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But but that I was living here.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Sounds about.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Englewood Sounds about Englewood.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Sounds about.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Englewood, but I, we have mutual friends, yes, and I
was invited to West Hollywood, Ithink for one of my like first
West Hollywood experiences, andwe met at the Abbey.
We sure did honey.
We met at the Abbey and I wasso nervous to meet all these
like cool LA, because Florida iscool, but in a very different
way, like I live in stpetersburg like so tampa, not
(11:26):
miami, tampa and los angeles andwest hollywood are different on
like you can't even like yeah,and so I was so scared to meet
all these really cool we hopepeople.
And then I remember meeting youand I was like, oh my god,
she's so pretty and I was likeshe seems so cool.
I remember saying something toyou.
I was like I think I keptsaying you have such a cool
mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, I remember, Wait , I remember I was like what the
?
Did I just say to her and Iremember, and I remember, you
know, obviously we met from ourone of our really really good
friends.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, he does our hair .
He didn't do it today.
No, we did it on our own but,we learned from Ian.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
We learned from Ian Max Schen yes, shut up, yes,
king, yes.
So he introduced us and I justremember him telling me oh,
kayla is just such a cool girllike she reminds me so much of
you.
You guys need to meet and youknow, I obviously always take
everything with a grain of salt,but obviously open, and when I
met this girl at WeHo it was somuch fun.
(12:30):
We just usually when I go toWeHo I'm with all the gays.
You know, there's not, there'snot many girls.
Yeah, like hang out with us andjust like, seamlessly, just
hang out like with the on anormal basis, you know.
And so to have you come in andjust us hit it off right away,
we were laughing, it was, yes,she made the comment about my
mouth and I was like, oh, I metso kindly.
But and then, and so to haveyou come in and just us hit it
off right away, we were laughing, it was so fun.
Yes, she made the comment aboutmy mouth and I was like, oh, I
meant it so kindly.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And then I ended up asking Ian.
I was like listen, I knowpeople are like can you tell me
where she is?
He's like she's always had thatmouth.
I'm like okay, well, I was likewho's her doctor?
She's like Look at her.
You understand what I mean.
Thank you, she just has a smile.
Stop.
We did a photo shoot recentlyI'm just kidding and I saw, I
think, the caption or someonewas like something about your
(13:09):
lips or your mouth.
I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, it was probably , for I did a shoot for Allergan
.
Was that what it was?
Allergan Allergan, I think it'spronounced.
Sorry, oh, but like and it'sit's for like, a.
It's a skincare brand.
Okay, I did their campaign andso they did add the tiniest
amount of filler.
Okay, that's fine, because theyhave to.
Of course, it's like you know,you have to add it if you're
(13:33):
doing a campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It can't but you've, I saw your photos when you were
a little girl doing photo.
You did what?
Limited to, not limited to what?
Um, I did hello kitty, hellokitty.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, and r was my first.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You showed me a picture.
I'm like oh no, she's alwaysbeen this perfect, she's just
not perfect Well on the outside,but thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
We'll get to the inside.
Another episode.
Yes, yeah, that's a whole otherepisode, a two-parter, a
two-parter.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But yeah, I don't know.
But yeah, I don't know.
I do think I think we hit itoff.
You know, pretty quickly I feellike we I was traveling a lot
for work for the last coupleyears, so we haven't like been
able to really just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I feel, like you're the friend of mine, that we can
go to each other's houses andlike, or we sit and we just talk
and have wine, and then youknow, like we go to the store
and get maybe another bottle ofwine.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And maybe a third.
Yeah, and we're just liketalking and shooting the shit.
Great things happen on Tuesdays, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Literally.
You know, we've been gettingtogether the last few weeks and
just vibing out and it's coolbecause obviously you know, were
podcast compatible, podcastablelike compatible, but
podcastable compatible.
What is it compatible, podcompatible?
(14:54):
We got it.
I think we are.
I think we are with that, rightthere.
I think we are, we're figuringit out.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, speaking of figuring it out, that's what
we're doing Obviously, episodeone of Milk and Honeys, we're
going to figure it out, andwe're going to figure it out
with all of you who are tuningin week to week, clearly, since
we live, like I said, in themecca of entertainment and
Hollywood and whatever.
We're going to talk aboutthings that we are all hearing
and reading every single day,watching on the tiktok, uh,
(15:25):
which I consume way too much of,are you?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
tiktok.
You know I I'm starting to getto a place where I am a doom
scroller, tiktoker, yes, um, II'm like in bed and I'm usually
an instagram girly, but therehas been more nights, as of late
, that I go on Tik TOK and I'mjust an hour goes by and I'm
(15:47):
like, oh, I know my alarm, Ineed those eight hours, like I
gotta go to bed, you know, andyou're saving things to, to, to
maybe do later on, and I'm likeI never do them, I never.
I save them a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I feel like I use it a lot for recipes, like I do do
a lot of recipe saving and Iactually do, and then I'll do
some like there's a coupleworkout chicks on there so I'm
like, okay, I, I will followtheir workouts at the gym, yeah,
and then I like to share likereally in my opinion, hilarious
fail like people getting likehurt and falling down.
Yeah, which is one of myfavorite things in the world is
(16:24):
seeing people because I'm verycalm.
Like today we wanted to havelike a couple mimosas before our
first episode.
Yep, and I was walking before Ieven had the mimosa.
I was walking back in the storeand all these cars are lined up
and I like was this close toeating it?
Like I mean, I tripped so hardto where people like looked
where they're concerned about me, yeah, and that's that would be
(16:46):
.
If someone got that on camera,that would be really funny and I
would watch it on TikTok.
So that is my and I would notbe mad if that was on TikTok,
I'd understand.
No, because that brings so muchjoy is watching other people
fall as long, as long as they'reOK.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
OK, just you know, just disclaimer as long as
everyone's actually okay in thevideo, because I like those
videos, but when it's like toomuch, I do cringe and I feel bad
and then I just want to like gothrough the screen and help
them.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think you're way nicer than I am.
I know I am that's good, thoughI think it's a good balance.
I feel like you're an empathtoo, you know what I am an
empath I am, but I am sometimestoo much of an empath Like, too
empath.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Just pull it back a little, like this is actually
not happening to you.
Yeah, but I no you know, don'tchange.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I think that's good.
No, I think that's good.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You know, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Now I'm going to like pay closer attention to how,
how empathetic I can be.
I'm not so qualified to becalled an impact.
Maybe that card should berevoked for me, I don't know.
Well, it's been a crazy awardseason, it has.
We're in the midst of that.
It has.
We've had the Grammys.
(17:58):
We just had what?
The?
The SAG Awards, the SAG Awards.
I don't know when this episodewill be hitting you, but at this
moment, this is the day beforethe.
Oscars which we're all excitedabout, so excited about.
What have you thought about theaward season this?
This year it's been.
I think it's been really coolseeing like.
(18:19):
I mean, I don't know, I feellike I haven't paid that much
attention to it in previousyears, but I know like
everything it can be verypolitical about, like who is
taking home.
I know there's been a lot ofcomplaints.
There's also been like a lot ofreally exciting people and
projects that are getting, Ithink, respect and
acknowledgement they've deservedAbsolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I, I understand where you're coming from, with the
not really being aware of who'snominated and things like that
in the past, but I do feel sodeeply connected with certain
people who are nominated andit's and I, I like I need them
to win.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, like I need to me to me, to me, it's noti, it's
not Demi, it's not Demi, it'snot Demi Glades, it's Demi War,
it's Demi, demi War, demi War,demi War.
Will you come on our?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
show Demi War.
Wow, okay, she's got it.
Take, take seven.
Demi War, yes, is just havingher moment right now and I am
just.
I feel like I'm in the momentwith her.
I'm so deserving, oh my god.
(19:31):
She is just so deserving, she'sshe seems.
I don't know her personally,but she seems like just such a
cool person in general and it'sjust to take on the role in the
substance which I watched lastnight.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I know, oh my god, best.
That was my top movie of 2024.
It is top movie and I watchmovies.
Every like I watch a differentmovie, typically horror movie,
but a movie every single nightand that was my number one that
is my number one so far, for2025 as well.
Oh, I watched it're predictingthat nothing is going to be
(20:06):
better than that for the nextwe're only in February March.
Are we in March, yet Is todayMarch 1st.
Is it we're filming this onMarch 1st March?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
1st, it is March 1st of 2025.
Okay, and so far best film I'vewatched.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So 2024, yes, absolutely, but this year this
year, and, to be fair, youwatched it very late.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, I did so, I think if you, yeah, so it's okay
, even though not watching itand only seeing clips that I've
seen of it prior to this.
Yeah, I even said to myselfwell, she deserves to win it all
.
Yeah, so then, now that I'veactually watched the film, last
night.
I was literally I will put on afilm sometimes and kind of
(20:49):
clean.
I have two cats, so likethere's always hair everywhere
your cat's your cat's names Romyand Michelle Romy and.
Michelle, oh, the loves of mylife.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That should actually be the portrait we put behind us
, literally.
We should do a whole.
Romy and Michelle photo shoot.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh my gosh, we should so you know, I put on movies
sometimes and I try to do thingsaround the house, but I caught
myself so many times last night.
I was in the kitchen, at onepoint, I think, putting the
dishes away, and when I tell youI turned.
I was staring at the televisionjust like this the whole time,
(21:24):
like with my arms crossed.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Like a dad or husband who doesn't want to watch a
reality show.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That they're yes.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And then they keep creeping in like watching,
watching, watching, until theyget so invested and they start
asking questions.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, and they come in and they're like oh my God,
rebecca said that I don't evenknow her name.
How do you know her name?
And that was you.
That was me.
I remember sitting on the couch, probably watching the film for
like a good 15 minutes, justlike you know, up against the
television, and then I looked tomy left and my dishes.
My dishwasher door was stilldown and I was like oh, well, I
(21:58):
also have.
Well, we also have ADHD, so thatdoes happen, you know.
So, like I, I was like, oh, Ineed to put the dishes away.
Still, I'll do it later I justkept kept watching it over and
over.
And I'm not a horror person no,she's not.
I am Kayla wishes.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I was a horror lover?
Yeah, I'm not.
She saw my bedroom for thefirst time and all I have in my
bedroom are photos of iconichorror movie scenes.
Yep, that's the kind of sickindividual that I am, and I love
it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I wish I could be that way, but I just genuinely
think when I watch certainhorror not all horror, because I
do love suspense and action andall that but when I do watch
certain horror films, I feellike it's gonna happen to me and
it gets kind of wish, asubstance would happen to me
like that's what we want.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, I mean not, not, not by the end of the movie, but
I don't want my goop to just.
Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Definitely not.
But this one I even told KaylaI was like I watched it at night
.
I watched it at night, and youknow why?
Because I was like I can dothis and it's Demi Moore.
And I did.
And I wasn't.
I slept like a baby last night.
(23:20):
I didn't have nightmares, Iwasn't scared to go take a
shower.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I feel like that's not really one of those horror
movies, though that would makeyou scared.
It's not Because, like what inthat movie could happen to you,
right, unless you're like takingUnless I get an exhilarator, is
that?
What?
Or an accelerator.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Unless you make the steps to like do it, yeah,
you're gonna be safe yeah, butlike boohoo, like chasing you
with an axe, most of the timeI'm not.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I'm probably not gonna watch you're gonna watch
that and if I do watch it, it'sgonna be at like 12 pm with like
a lot of sunlight and likemaybe 10 people at your house
with you, absolutely, and you'renot leaving you're spending the
night the thing about demi thatI appreciate.
So she's obviously she's been inhollywood forever.
Like we grew up I mean our, yeah, mom grew you know like she's
always been around and I readsomewhere, so I there's this new
(24:05):
show called um land man, whichis a really great like if you're
a fan of yellowstone or any ofthat kind of western stuff, it's
a great show.
Um, anyway, she has a verysmall role in there and I don't
know when she took the role orwhen that was filmed, but I know
I read something that was likeshe was planning on just like
stepping on hollywood, beingdone with hollywood and quitting
hollywood, because like nothingwas really like lining up for
(24:26):
her, and I feel like that rolethat she took, which came out
like right around the same timethe substance did, I feel like
that was her last role in hermind, yeah, and then she was
presented with the substance andit's completely revitalized her
career and I feel like she'sgotten like a second wind and I
only hope that directors and andproducers and writers are
(24:47):
looking at her for more projects, because she embodied, like she
embodied this role.
In a way.
I don't think anybody else likeI was trying to like run down
what other, like actresses whoare around the same age with the
same notoriety, could have doneas good of a job as Demi?
Yeah, and I honestly couldn'tcome up with that many.
No, and I feel like it had tobe such a personal role for her
(25:10):
too because, like, I walked outof that that film as a woman in
Hollywood.
We're in our 30s and yes,that's not, but in Hollywood it
can be perceived as as old.
And I have been going throughall this like, oh my God, like
I'm not in my you know, I'm not22 anymore Like maybe I need to
start getting this done, orgetting this little nip tuck
done, or getting this like face,like all these things.
(25:30):
I've been going through my headas an on air personality and I
head as an on-air personalityand I walked out of there just
like you know what, it doesn'tmatter what the hell you do to
yourself if you're not doing itfor your own personal joy and
fulfillment.
It doesn't matter because atthe end of the day, as we saw
the end of substance, your wholecareer and life and the memory
of you is going to be wiped away.
(25:51):
Yep, just disposed of andeveryone's going to forget you.
I mean, yes, yes, people leavelegacies, but if you look at
some like this new generationcoming through, they don't know.
I've been seeing people do thisFresh Prince of Bel-Air trend
lately.
I'm like y'all don't even knowwhat Fresh Prince of Bel-Air is.
Wait, what is the trend?
It's like this like there was amoment when, like Ashley Banks
(26:11):
was like dancing in her room andthen will walks in and then
like she has her headphones onso she doesn't realize he's
watching her and he like startsdoing.
I'm like y'all are like 22doing a will, like a will smith
freshman spiller impression.
You don't, I guarantee you'venever watched an episode of that
show.
Yeah, but that is just how itis these days.
People are just like wipingaway, like the legends and the
like iconic, like performances.
(26:31):
Just you just get washed away.
So anything that we do foranything that we do, especially
as women, to ourselves, needs tobe.
I get botox for myself honestlyI just like the way I look
better with some botox I'm gonnabe honest about that, and
honestly, not because I'mworried about a casting director
, no and honestly, it helps mymigraines I'm not gonna lie, it
helps my my, I get, I have, Iget masseter botox because I
(26:55):
grind my teeth like my teeth arelike down and up, like I do it
for like but it does make mefeel better like I don't have
any botox right now.
Obviously you can see like Ihave no, okay, no, no, but then
screw you.
No, no, but it is no, but it isit is like it is gone.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I haven't gotten.
I am due for another session,right, and I have been getting
headaches like more often in themorning.
So I kind of didn't do itbecause I was like, okay, let me
see, let me see, cause it didfeel like it helped.
And then I stopped doing it andI'm like, let me just let this
be a moment where I can askmyself is this actually helping
me with my migraines?
I've been, I've had migrainesmy entire like since I was in
(27:31):
high school.
Really, I migraine medication,all the things.
But I'm not gonna lie, botoxdid help me.
I'd say like 70 of my migrainescut because of botox.
So, but at the end of the day,not that we're just talking
about botox, but like, at theend of the day, do we're looking
for sponsors?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
yeah, if so, if any botox?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
people out there want , you know, get in on our
migraine and our clenching jawsStick me, prick me.
But there's a way to do itright.
I mean, like, demi Moore looksfantastic, she looks so good, oh
my God, so good.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And people want to.
They want to hate on her, theywant to hate on anybody, they
want to hate on anybody.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Because if you're, if like we said, if you're too
skinny, it people hate on you.
If you've gained weight, yeah,people hate on you, and it's
it's just who cares?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I don't understand why this is a topic of
discussion like stop stop beingso worried about how other
people like choose to hang like.
I'm gonna talk about selenagomez.
Bless her heart.
Like she has had a rough go atit since she honestly probably
since she started dating justinbieber, which was how many years
ago now?
Yeah, no, people have just notlet it go right.
(28:46):
So I saw this side by sidephoto of selena gomez on red
carpets.
One was from last year, uh,wearing a white dress, and then
from this year at the SAG Awards.
Sag Awards Beautiful in both.
But all the comments on theleft side was like she looks
like a tank.
Maybe it's time for her to goon Ozempic.
She's so fat.
And then now in this one whereshe's lost all this weight, it's
(29:10):
like wow, looks like somebodyjust had to be lazy and go on
Ozempic.
Someone should tell her thatskinny isn't prettier.
I'm like you cannot win withthese people like it's like
you're damned if you do, youdamned if you don't.
And people want to be like well,you chose this life, you chose
this career.
You should be able to handle it.
Not one mother person who is onyour television signed up to be
(29:31):
constantly bullied and beratedfor the way they look, like it
doesn't matter how much moneyyou're making.
We see, we see it andunfortunately, we see like
people who take their own livesbecause of you know, because of
the way, because of comments,because of comments.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's like it does matter like it does and and I
and I think that it's it is sucha tough industry.
It's.
That's why I'm saying, watchingthe substance, I felt so many
things.
I'm a 35-year-old woman andI've been in this industry since
I was 15 years old.
Looking back even 10 years ago,I'm like, oh, I look back and I
(30:10):
remember feeling like I was sofat.
I had an agent one time touchthe side of my butt, and this
was before, like butts were athing obviously back in the day.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Thanks for asking.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But this was before.
Like having a booty was cooland I will never forget.
Like one of the agencies I wentin to have a meeting with, they
touched the side of my butt andthey were like, can you shave
off this?
Just like, maybe like five,seven pounds on.
I'm like, oh, that's my bone, Ican't really do that.
And so it had me such like somany weird moments in my life I
(30:48):
remember from.
That moment led me and it'slike I think back and I look
back on photos, 10 years agoeven, and I'm like, oh, you
looked amazing, but I didn'tthink yeah, because you're not
made to feel that right, and I'mso worried about what other
people thinking and things likethat.
So you know, at the end of theday, demi, demi, okay, my gosh,
(31:09):
we're gonna, we'll figure it out, we will figure it out.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think again she should come on the show and
correct us.
Yeah, would be the best courseof action we would love to have
you but also we think you'refreaking incredible and such an
inspiration to like you knowwomen everywhere and it's just
hard, even like the Kardashiansare funny to watch, which I have
always watched their shows.
It's so funny to watch, likethe like when they first hit,
(31:35):
everyone was like, oh wow, curvyis in the big ass.
You know the hips like the bigboobs, like embracing all of
that, and of course, they gotlike their work done and their
bbls or whatever.
Great more power to you.
But now if you watch their show, everyone is getting super
skinny again and it's like theyare.
I mean, we're being real andI'm not hating on them for it.
This is just.
This is their business.
They are the trendsetters whenit comes to women and what's
(31:57):
normal and considered beautifulin Hollywood, absolutely, and so
I think Kourtney Kardashian hasdone a good job of kind of
stepping away from that,especially in watching, but
she's also just had a baby withTravis.
Barker, whatever.
It's just hard.
It is hard, like I know, for me.
My weight's always fluctuated.
I'm very short, so like fivepounds can look like 20 pounds
on my body and I'm like, if youlook at my mom, like everyone
(32:18):
just has big hips and big butts,like that's just how we're all
built.
But towards the end of my timewith WWE, I was getting a lot of
like Kayla's got so fat, like Igot a lot of stuff like that
too, and I've always beenself-conscious.
Like from being a little girl.
I was very self-confident.
I was a fat kid, like I reallywas a chubby kid and to the
point where, like I had people,like my parents, had me go on
(32:40):
like a weight loss journey inorder to participate in like a
beauty pageant Really, and like,looking back, it needed to
happen.
Like I was like kind of going,like I was a fat kid.
But I was raised in the Southwhere, like, mothers harp on
their daughters about like beingskinny beauty beauty exactly
are.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It is it so as an adult.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm like so when I'm getting all this about me.
So then I lost a lot of weight,like this past year I got like
super skinny.
So my friends were likesomething you know, maybe you
should so, but but even theinternet then was like oh wow,
like she's like uglier.
Now I'm like you're damned ifyou do, you're damned if you
don't.
And again I think the overallmessage that I took from the
substance was like and that andthat was, it doesn't matter,
like be happy with yourself,like be like confident in who
(33:25):
you are, not because of anybodyelse.
What they're saying in your ear, yep, and then that is like how
you're going to be happy,because otherwise you know it
doesn't work.
It doesn't work, that's justthat's just the, the message to.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Every time.
They would call the the bossman right in the film and say
and and uh dennis quaid andargue yes, and our the ultimate.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We wasn't even supposed to have that role.
He got someone, he was replacedsomeone last really for that.
It was he was phenomenal, hewas.
He represented every disgustingman.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I've ever worked for.
And also Caroline.
What is her name?
Carolee, farge, farge, I thinkshe says Farge.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Farge or Carolee, I think it's Coralie Farge.
Coralie, I think.
Coralie Farge.
I think If we are incorrect, wewill correct that we apologize,
but regardless bra va chef'smother effing kiss Like she.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I watched an interview with her and it's just
how everything was filmed soperfectly, yeah, like even in
the bathroom scene where hecomes in and he's talking and
peeing and saying how old she isand all these things and just
talking negatively.
It's.
It's one of those things whereI I saw in an interview.
She said we had a wide cameraand we kept it there.
(34:44):
That's all one shot.
And I didn't realize that when Iwas watching it, until I saw
the interview and I she goes.
Everything in the film.
We wanted to be so symmetrical,even the hallway where she
walks down with all her posterson the side, and because that's
what she wants, that's what theywant, that's what the people
want is perfection, right, butit's.
It's not.
Everything else that you see inthat film is not perfect, but
(35:09):
when it came to the actual um,the camera angles, they were so
specific and it was just just tohear her talk about it.
It's just specific and it wasjust just to hear her talk about
it.
It's just brilliant.
Like she's just brilliant andjust the cinematography is just
oh, shout out to our femalebosses in Hollywood, absolutely
yes, I love it, which is what weare aspiring to be.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yes, starting today.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah Well, we were manifesting, and now we're here.
So it's all the small stepsthat create the big journey, and
so I'm trying.
I like that, small steps.
Yeah, I'm trying to rememberthat those small steps should be
celebrated just as much as thebig accomplishments that
obviously we know and theoutsiders know.
(35:53):
But you know, like this rightnow is like a small step for us.
We met, we had this idea andnow we're here Exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
We're doing this so that's great and giving
ourselves like credit and patson the back for that.
I know I'm really guilty.
I think one of my biggest flawsand I have like none I'm
kidding.
Oh my God, I need to live like.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Kayla.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
OK, I think I.
But what I was like?
Oh my god, I need to live likekayla.
Okay, I think I'm guilty.
I think also it just goes with,like the career path that we
took I do care a lot aboutpublic perception and like what
other?
people think.
And when I quit my job I waslike, oh my god, like I better
start like doing something bignow, where people are like, oh
wow, she can't make it withoutwwe or she like needs a machine
behind her to make it.
And it's like to where I'm noweight months removed and I'm
like I've had some smallvictories since then and I've
(36:40):
done some cool stuff, but Ihaven't like let myself
acknowledge it and like live init a little bit and give myself
any credit, because I'm like, no, but like the world hasn't seen
what I've done yet, and it'slike, no, kayla, like you can't
keep looking, you can't keepdoing that to yourself because,
yeah, you have to celebratethose small things.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
And the world doesn't deserve to know all of our
small wins they don't.
Not that they don't deserve youdo deserve to know all of our
small wins, but we don't need toshare them.
Some things can be private andinternalized and it's that
moment where we realize, oh, wedid make that small step that's
going to lead to a biggerpicture, because I am guilty of
(37:21):
seeing the bigger picture andgetting anxiety over everything
that has to lead up to that bigpicture?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
And instead of having fun with it, then you're just
like worried about it.
You know what I mean, so I'mglad like we're taking a small
step.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
We are.
We're taking a very small step.
Yeah, one giant leap from man.
Wait, what's the?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
one, one giant leap for mankind.
No, anyway, we'll, we'll figureit out.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
OK, we land, we're landing on the moon.
We are.
This is you.
Welcome to the moon.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Mankind, did you watch that show?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
no, wait, wait.
Okay, let's talk about whatwe're watching yeah, what wait?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
what's mankind?
Mankind is a show about thesepeople living in space.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Okay and I'm interested, I love space.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, so basically mankind is about, instead of the
Americans landing on the moonfirst.
What if the other people landedon the moon first, like the
aliens?
No, no, no.
Who were we against?
Like….
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Dennis, you know what we're talking about.
Can you also?
Can you quote what we weretrying to quote?
Which one?
One small step for man, onegiant leap for mankind.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
We just combined the two.
One small step for man, onehuge step for mankind.
We'll get it one day.
Wait, but for mankind, what wasit?
It was the Americans notlanding on the moon, but the
russians okay, so you know right.
Yes, okay, so the russianslanded on the moon first, okay,
(39:03):
and then it kind of spirals, soit's like, if that's how it
starts that's a watch that andit's amazing it's okay, wait.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Where can I watch it like when?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
is it?
I need a new show.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I'll find it.
Yeah, technology, there's somany streaming services.
There are so many, I know.
I've been trying to.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
What?
The one that we both arewatching that we need to talk
about is Paradise.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Oh, my Okay, sterling K Brown A.
I loved him from this Is Us.
He is such a good actor.
Then I saw his movie.
I just watched wave.
It's called wave, okay.
Anyway, this guy is just, it'sbarren and you know, he turned
down.
He got offered a role on theboys, which I love the boys but
he turned it down to do this.
So I think it was like eitheror because of like filming
schedules and he made the,because I think the boys is on
(39:47):
this last season and it's allnew.
Fuck, it's all new.
Um, I haven't figured outcussing yet on this show.
By the way, I have a pottymouth.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I know I do too, but I've been good today.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I don't know the YouTube rules.
I'm going to Google the YouTuberules of cussing after this
episode, and then we'll say allof our potty words.
Anyway, he was so freaking good.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
He doesn't even have to speak and you know exactly
what he's saying.
That's an actor.
That is an actor.
That is an actor, an actor, anactor.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Such a good show if you're not watching it.
The finale, I think, is thisnext week, but basically it's a
post-apocalyptic scenario whichI think we all think is like
when stuff gets real up here onEarth is there a place that you
can go, selected people that cango, that can kind of rebuild.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And so anyway go, yep , uh, selected people that can
go that kind of rebuild and soanyway, I'm so excited for the.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, we don't want to ruin it for anybody, by the
time this air, by the time thisairs, I'm sure that has aired
yeah, phenomenal show phenomenal, like it's just the best show
on television right now.
I I'm saying well, you know,and I feel like I was kind of
skeptical at first, I think thislast episode, which is episode
seven, I believe, was what iswhen he was talking to his wife.
That was one of the bestepisodes of television I've seen
(40:58):
in in quite a long time.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
They captured the chaos of the world actually
ending so quickly.
Yeah, in the oval office.
In the Oval Office, yeah, andthen in the betrayal, the
devastation, like it was just.
It was just pure perfection ofa chaotic scenario.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I think it seems like it'd be pretty on par with what
will if that happens, I'd saywhen that happens is more
realistic.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I don't think it's an if anymore.
I think it's when.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean we may not be alive when it happens but
eventually, what about theasteroid or whatever that's
supposed to hit the UK?
And now?
Okay, so here's my thing Afterwatching this last episode so
this whole like asteroid orwhatever was like a 2% chance it
was going to hit the UK in likeeight years.
Cool, now there's no chance.
(41:56):
I don't trust that at all.
If you, if you tell people, ifyou tell humankind that, hey, in
eight years this could happen,mayhem is going, it's gonna
break out.
Everyone's gonna be startingbuilding bunkers, buying land,
like.
I don't trust any government,honestly, when it comes to like
when the world is going to end.
No, I don't think they're gonnatell us.
Just like we saw on that show,they didn didn't tell the people
until he had the change ofwanted to like and it was too
(42:17):
late.
I don't think we will be toldif a massive asteroid is heading
towards us.
I just don't think we will be.
I think they're going to keepthat from us, because what's
going to happen Anytime?
Anything crazy happens inpolitics?
Everyone goes batshit crazy.
It's chaos.
Yeah, goes batshit crazy, it'schaos, yeah, it's chaos.
Imagine the world's in eightyears.
I'll tell you right now I'm notapplying for any more jobs.
No, I'm going to go travel theworld and I might break a few
(42:40):
laws.
Yeah, don't quote me on that.
But I'm just telling you theworld is in eight years.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I don't care If it's eight years, it's probably going
to be four.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
It's probably going to be four, and you know what
I've always wanted to hijack acar, or at least learn how to.
Okay, I am not condoning this,by the way.
Vanessa said she will help me.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I am not a part of this situation.
What other shows are youwatching right now?
Okay, so Apple.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Cider Vinegar.
Oh my gosh, scam artist crazy.
And then the one you told melast night to watch.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I watched the first episode about ruby frankie.
What a psycho bitch you guys,who does things like that?
Speaker 1 (43:26):
who does that like?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
who I just I, oh my gosh, I have two nieces.
Okay, like I don't have a lotof kids in my life, but I have
two nieces in my life that I amobsessed with and I love so much
.
If someone has so little to dosomething just wrong to them, I
would literally kill you.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I mean not.
I mean I've only watched thefirst episode.
Like I can't wait I'm probablylike tomorrow to lay on the
couch and watch the other two,uh, that are out.
So I was raised in a fosterhome.
So I was from age 9 to 18.
I was in a foster family, sothere was a ton of kids like six
to kids so I was kind of putmyself in like their shoes or
whatever.
My foster parents never even.
Yeah, of course they disciplineus the way you're supposed to
(44:00):
discipline your kids, but whatRuby Frankie was doing and like
the fact they've released all ofthis footage that wasn't seen
the way she would talk to herkids and like I, it makes me
sick to my stomach, yep.
And then it was able to go onfor so long until they were
making $100,000 plus a monthabusing their children.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
It's insane that the documentary has this new
documentary has their two oldestchildren and their or her
husband.
Yeah, and well they, at thetime of filming, I believe they
were still married, but at theend, well you'll, you'll find
whatever, don't spoil for me.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Sorry, I'm not spoiling for you.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But I mean, would you still be with somebody like
that who's about to spend xamount of time in jail?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
for that, for that, no, the moment.
If I ever have kids and I findout my husband or wife or
whoever does one no, you're gone.
No, you're gone, you're gone,you're dead so it's.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It is interesting to hear their perspectives on
everything, because it's their.
Their perspectives are sodifferent between the three of
them and I just I, I really,really feel for this.
The younger children, becauseyou only get one childhood.
Yeah, you only get one I know.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
And that one does stay with you for the rest of
your life I mean, I'm atestament.
We're both testaments to thatand we'll get to that on another
episode because, I mean,vanessa and I, we have shared
with each other some unfortunatethings that happened to us when
we were kids.
That clearly has bled into ouradulthood and we've done the
best we can with it.
But one thing that we didn'thave to deal with because it
wasn't a thing back then waslike social media Cause we
(45:39):
didn't grow up with it and we'realways seeing like all of the
very personal, like she'sstarting their first period or
going through puberty the stuffthat Ruby just decided to put on
the internet about her childrenwho didn't have control over
that, and now that will alwaysbe on the internet.
It breaks my heart.
That is a form of violationthat, like I can't wrap my head
(45:59):
around yeah, there, there's,there's.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
These types of people prove to me that evil truly
does exist in human form.
Absolutely, and she is one ofthose people that I would put in
that category, like she doesn'teven have he, she doesn't even
have room.
I think in hell, I thinkthere's something darker and
she's going there.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I mean it's, it's, it's really weird kind of abuse
towards the helpless, whetherit's children or animals.
I do believe there's a deeper.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
The devil doesn't even want you no, and it's crazy
, like you I mean.
I'm sure you saw in the firstepisode where she's filming
herself and then just gettingangry because you can't get it
down.
Yes, and her face it's.
It was scary.
It's the switch, it's theswitch up.
It's like you think you'rewatching a scripted series but
you're not.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Honestly I actually I thought I was at first, oh
there's someone acting.
I literally thought.
When I saw I was like oh thisis someone like portraying her.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I'm like, oh no, no, this is actually footage of her.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Oh, let's just take a , take a breath, take a breath.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Oh my god, I can't wait, yeah that yeah, god bless
their hearts like the yeah thatshow is is.
It is intense, but yeah, thoseare my three top shows right now
paradise, apple cider vinegar.
I obviously already finished.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Can't imagine, I mean , there's so many people out
there who are lying about cancer, which is so strange, like it's
just like I think I just can'twrap my head around people that
I mean I'm, I'm probably crazy,same, but like that level of
crazy doesn't resonate with me,like lying about cancer
consistently for years andgetting money and creating like
(47:37):
I can't know understand that atall.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
No, my crazy is like getting maybe a little too drunk
and my laugh is like you knowand I'm like like screaming.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
We think we're crazy, we're not, we're actually not
crazy at all.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
That's my kind of crazy.
We're just fun and normal yeah,and maybe a little wild.
Sometimes we're wild.
I think our mental health ispretty much.
I mean, mental health isanother thing, but I think we're
going in a good path.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Okay, but like sometimes we're good people.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I think that's it.
We're good people who justlaugh obnoxiously Cause I do
when I like, listen to, likevideos or, you know, my
boyfriend or my mom usually it'smy boyfriend or my mom will be
like oh, you know, my boyfriendor my mom usually it's my
boyfriend.
My mom will be like, oh my gosh, I could hear your laugh in the
video.
You're not even in it and Iknow it's you.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
That's a great legacy to leave, is it?
I think so, I think okay Ithink, one day I'm okay.
This is a very morbid thing forme to say, but you'll learn as
the episodes go on.
I'm a very dark person.
Yeah, um, I think about likewhen I die, like at my funeral.
What will people say about Ifwhat they say about me is like
oh my God, you could always heara laugh in the next room.
That's the greatest thing to belike.
(48:38):
That's a great thing forsomeone to say.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
You know what I know, that's right.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Well, listen, I'm looking at the clock right now.
I told you we would run throughthis really quickly.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
So fast, I know, but we covered such great stuff
today too.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
We did, and this is kind of what you guys can expect
when you tune in.
It's going to be a learningcurve for all of us as we move
on.
Hopefully you guys subscribe.
We set up our Instagram account, which is Milk and Honey's.
Pod.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yes, milk and Honey's .
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Pod.
It's so hard these days to finda.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Milk and Honey's.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Pod Milk and honey's pod.
It's so hard these days to findhoney's pod milk and honey's
pod because you can't.
Instagram's been around toolong.
You can never find your like,what handle you want, because
somebody's already taken iteveryone.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Somebody has it and they're not using it, and then
they want to charge you for itand it's like, no, we're not
paying like a thousand dollarsfor this, absolutely not so milk
and honey's pod, and then we'realso on youtube as well at it's
milk and honey's.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
So, um, yeah, we're gonna also have.
Even we're also on YouTube aswell at it's milk and honey.
So, um, yeah, we're going toalso have.
Even we're calling our partycrashers.
We're going to have partycrashers come in and we'll have
guests.
Uh, I recently reached out toum some actor friends of mine
who are on like shows that youguys are probably watching.
We both have friends in theindustry, but also just like our
friends, who are just ourfriends, like, yeah, we hang out
in west hollywood, we have.
We love our gays, we love ourdrag queens, we love our trans
(49:56):
queens like we're gonna have aan array of people joining us
and even if you're not coming inhere physically, like in person
, we're gonna have uninvitedguests, right?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
so we'll you'll be able to dm or like call in and
ask us questions and we can giveyou guys advice, and it's the
best, to our knowledge, you know.
I mean, we've lived a lot oflives and life and so I think
through that we can give somereally great advice.
I think so too, and I'm excitedto do that for people, because
(50:29):
I've always had people give megreat advice who maybe are a
little older than me.
And like, at the end of the day, the only time that you really
have the best advice is ifyou're living through certain
things and you go through it andyou figure it out and what is
working for you, what's notworking for you.
So it's just, um, I'm excitedI'm excited for that.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'm excited it's gonna it's gonna be fun.
I think we're gonna name our ifyou guys want to send in
stories, whatever it's going tobe called our Honey Hotline.
I think that's what our workingname is Honey Hotline, Honey
Hotline.
We're going to be asking somethings of you guys.
Honey, honey, follow along withus.
This is going to be fun.
Vanessa and I are a good time,as you, I'm sure, could already
(51:11):
tell.
We have plenty of stories totell life experiences.
And I think we can just relateto all of you in a lot of
different ways.
We are yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I'm really excited.
I think that this it'ssomething to me that I've always
struggled with using my voice,and so I do think that this is
such, this has been such achallenge And've had moments
leading up to this, the last fewdays, of a somewhat like
anxiety, but not not a badanxiety.
I struggle from anxiety, so I Iunderstand when I'm feeling
(51:45):
certain things, I really sitwith it and I'm like, okay, why
am I feeling this?
And it's it's because I'm doingsomething so new.
Yeah, and you know, like yousaid, like we've been in this
industry for so long and ourwhole industry has to do with
other people's opinions, whetherthey're going to book us or
they're not going to book us,and it's that is just,
essentially.
(52:06):
That is what our job is right,like people are deciding for
this specific job or role ortitle, or you know.
And so I think I've struggledwith just using my voice as it
actually is, and so I'm excitedand I'm really like thankful
that you've wanted to do thiswith somebody too, you know.
(52:29):
So thank you.
Not somebody with you, I mean,yes, with me, but you know it's
like I've always wanted to do apodcast, but it is something so
personal and so being able to doit with you is just really
comforting and fun, and I just.
We have such a good time whenwe're together, so I feel safe
with you, so, thank you Allright, enough affection.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Well, listen, I think that wraps up our first episode
.
You are running out of time,but please come back, vanessa,
and I will open up more aboutyou know.
We want you to feel like you'reon the couch with us and that
you're our friend and that wecan, you know, share our
personal stories and lives withyou, and we will dive more into
our personal lives as we go on.
We'll dive more into ourpersonal lives as we go on, but
we appreciate you watching thisepisode, episode one.
(53:15):
It's going to go down infreaking herstory over here,
over here, yes and yeah, followalong again.
Social media, youtube, and then, if you do follow us on, when
you follow us on Instagram, wewill continue to roll out
information on how you can bemore involved, moving forward.
But absolutely, yeah, thankseveryone for watching.
Yeah, thanks everyone forwatching.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, I think that's it for today's pour of milk and
honey.
Yes, milk and honey, we'refiguring out taglines Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
So let us know if you like that one Submit more.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
But yeah, you know, don't forget to stir things up,
but like share the love, sharethe love, share the love.
We want to hear what you guyshave to say and we want to be
able to be voices for people whofollow.
Exactly that's the essentialgoal, absolutely.
We'll see you guys next time,is that?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
how we end it Is that how we end it, we're learning.
And that's it.
That is fine.
That's a wrap.
We need to get a thing.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
See, ya Deuces.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Deuces, deuces, peace .
Are we allowed to salute us atour age?
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