July 14, 2025 • 55 mins
We dive into Justin Bieber's surprise album "Swag," JoJo Siwa's confusing rebrand, Scheana Shay's shocking memoir revelation, and why "The Studio" might be the most accurate portrayal of Hollywood we've ever seen.
• Justin Bieber's new album shows his growth as an artist and maturity as a father and husband
• The public's harsh criticism of celebrities often fails to consider their humanity and right to enjoy themselves
• JoJo Siwa's dramatic transformation from her signature style to a 1950s aesthetic has left fans and critics confused
• Scheana Shay revealed her husband Brock Davies cheated on her while pregnant, raising questions about the timing of this disclosure
• "The Studio" on Apple TV+ perfectly captures Hollywood's complex inner workings, power dynamics, and absurdities
• Our new segment "The Honey Jar" reveals our villain origin stories and why we'd choose being rich and hated over broke and beloved
Join us next week for more pop culture deep dives and the return of the Honey Jar!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's your villain origin story?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And I can't read.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's in your cup?
It's actually just watermelonjuice.
Today, it's not even alcohol.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, here we are again.
Welcome back everyone toanother episode of Milk and
Honeys.
We are your hosts.
I'm Kayla Becker.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And I am Vanessa Curry.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know about this podcast by now.
We talk about pop culture, ourpersonal drama, whatever makes
us question our life choices,and let me tell you there's
quite a bit these days.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh, yes, there is, and today's episode is pretty
stacked we have to talk about.
Justin Bieber just dropped asurprise album Swag that we
listened to.
I already listened to the wholealbum and you know JoJo Siwa is
back in the headlines again formaybe confusing herself or
(00:57):
everyone Confusing me.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And we're also going to talk about the studio on
apple tv.
It just might be the mostaccurate depiction of hollywood,
and I just love it so much it'slike before.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It would have been entourage, I feel like, was like
the best, like example of howhollywood is yes, it took it to
like that next level, um, evenfrom the way that I feel like
they their camera movements,just the one continuation shots,
just it was so high paced.
But yeah, we'll get into that.
The show's been out for a whilebut Vanessa texted me today and
she's like hey, can we talkabout the studio?
I'm like that's one of myfavorite shows lately.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm re-watching it because it's so good, because I
know I missed things the firsttime I watched it.
So, like I'm going back andit's even funnier, we'll have
like a we'll do a day, a weekendwhere we just watch the whole
thing and you know, gotta talkabout a little bit of hot goss.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So we've had one member of this show, peter
magical, on our show earlier on,but we're now we're talking
about miss sheena.
Shea, bless her heart, she justhas the hardest time just
finding her place in the worldand she, uh, recently revealed
that she has her husband brockactually cheated on her while
she was pregnant.
Um, she found this out a fewyears ago, but she's just now
coming out with this informationconveniently right before she
(02:10):
releases her memoir.
So my kind of thing is like whyare you coming out with this
now?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
but hey, whatever, if you got to use your own
personal shit to sell some booksdo you girl, and look, I mean,
at the end of the day, she hasto be honest because it's in the
memoir.
So you might as well let thepeople know now, before they
read it and are shocked.
Gosh, there's so much dramacirculating that?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We'll get to that.
Yes, we will get to that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But we're also debuting the Honey Jar.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
The Honey Jar 11 episodes in.
We have a jar that looks like ahoney jar with some questions,
and we're going to get to thatat the end of the show.
So this is going to be a fun,fun little day.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
All right, let's go ahead and get into it.
We talked about Justin Bieber,who just released his what
number album is this?
It's the first one in manyyears.
It's called Swag.
I did not know what it wasgoing to be going into it.
He's had a lot of differentversions of himself over the
years, which is to be expectedin this industry.
(03:09):
I really enjoyed this.
It felt like maybe he hadgotten a little inspired by
Michael Jackson.
It's very smooth, but he's agrown-ass man.
Now he's a husband and he's afather.
He's got more differentstruggles to be singing about.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
What did you think about it when you first listened
to it?
I actually really liked it.
It's vibey.
It's one of those things wherewe can put on and have a glass
of wine.
Maybe you know if you'resomebody who partakes in.
You know marijuana here andthere.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't know what we're supposed to call it.
Like a joint, like you, likesome glass, a little joint, not
that you should light up anddrive right, be in the passenger
side.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, yeah, have a driver.
Have a driver, then light upand then get in the passenger
side with the top down, down pca.
That's what it felt like.
It felt.
It felt very mature.
Um, I loved my.
I think one of my favorite oneshonestly like that made me
giggle was I think it's calleddaisy and it's about hayley,
okay or yeah I was like hayleybaldwin, they're married.
Bieber, they're married.
Yeah, same thing.
And it was just sweet he talksabout like his phone, the phone
case he references that and thelip gloss in the phone case.
(04:11):
It's like it kind of made megiggle and I was like, oh,
that's kind of cute.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I love that.
Well, it is cute.
I think this album was an odeto her.
Because, god, I mean, what wasthe other song, walking Away?
Because everyone has beenobviously criticizing their
marriage they know nothing about, based on some photos paparazzi
might snap of them, lookinglike maybe they're not all over
each other, but in the song helike promised her I'm never
walking away and I was like, oh,that's so sweet.
Like he put all these criticsto rest.
(04:35):
There's no, they're not goingto be a part of some big
hollywood divorce anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Hopefully I hope not, yeah, I hope not, yeah, I hope
not, and also I did really love.
Also he takes some snippetsfrom that paparazzi clip the
paparazzi incident that he had.
And you know, the man's justtrying to what lay on business?
Is that what he said?
Stand on business or stand onbusiness, lay on business or lay
on it.
I would love to lay on businessSometimes it's exhausting,
(05:01):
let's start.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's going to be our new phrase.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We're going to lay on business.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, it is cool.
We've since baby days.
We all grew up with some.
Justin Bieber Absolutely thatpoor kid, I feel like has just
had a rough go at it growing upin Hollywood and has constantly
had people try to bring him down.
Of course, he has been involvedin potentially one of the
biggest scandals happening inHollywood.
There's no telling what's goingthrough his mind.
(05:27):
And then people are seeingJustin Bieber out at these
festivals looking like he's onsomething or drunk.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He's having a good time Like we go out and have a
good time.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
If someone had their phone in my face every time I'd
be like why can't people justhave a good time without being
criticized?
Oh, they're off the wagon, theyprobably need to go to rehab,
or he is just having.
He's tying one on, he's havinga night he's out, he's doesn't
have the baby.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If he had the baby in his arms and he's like that's
one thing a little.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, tipsy or whatever, she went a little too
hard.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But then I'd have some concerns, but I I genuinely
don't even on, even when he'son stage, when he performed with
sZA, and people, yeah were werecriticizing and I'm like I
don't know.
Like I grew up dancing and Igrew up dancing on big stages
and that's not being the mainartist, but even as a dancer on
a massive stage, that feeling isso euphoric and it's just you
(06:19):
feel like you're drunk or ondrugs or like whatever.
And maybe he was, which istotally fine.
What?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
stars are up there, like literally public.
There's been following this new, not artist.
You're drunk or on drugs orlike whatever, and maybe he was,
which is totally fine.
What stars are up there, likeliterally public.
There's uh been following thisnew, not artist, newest artist,
young blood.
I'm obsessed.
Go look him up.
Uh, okay, a little bit of acrush on the guy.
I don't think I'm his type, butuh, he's ozzy osbourne's
successor.
Ozzy osbourne, basically at hislast concert, like recently, um
(06:42):
for black sabbath, basicallylike handed the torch to this
guy named Youngblood.
That's awesome.
But he's so open and funny,like this is my first drink
before my show.
This is my first drink, lastdrink, yep and he's having a
good time and it's like why dowe have to start villainizing
people for just enjoyingthemselves, right, you know,
enjoying themselves, I thinkalso for Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
He got his start at such a young age and he was so
successful at such a young age,and I think we forget sometimes
that these people are justpeople.
Yeah, and the moments where wemake mistakes, most of our
mistakes are not filmed or beingfollowed by paparazzi.
(07:21):
And so there's times, you know,I remember years ago, when he
like ran over a paparazzi's.
And so there's times, you know,I remember years ago, when he
like ran over a paparazzi's foot.
It's like he didn't mean to dothat, man, you were just
standing out of the way you wereliterally standing in front of
his car, like what is hesupposed to do?
He's trying to just go to thegrocery store and get in his car
and go home, and so it's.
It is hard.
I think we were just seeing himfigure out his life, like who
(07:43):
he is, as a young man, and thennow you know, he's getting into
fatherhood, he's getting ontoanother journey, another path,
and you know, I heard somethingnot too long ago that Drake was
talking about when he goes to Ithink it was Drake or was it
Chris Brown, I don't remember,but one of the two whenever
they're out of state or like outof the country or something,
(08:05):
they'll wear like a mask andthey'll go out by themselves
because they never get to go outby themselves without someone
saying something to them.
or you know, and I'm sure a lotof people who have fans like
they, love their fans and theyappreciate it, but we also love
our alone time you know Morethan anybody does, people in the
public eye especially.
So I thought that was reallycool.
(08:26):
And he's like yeah, nobody evenknows that I do it, I just
we're not famous, but I kind ofwant to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I know we should Actually no.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
People probably think we're like stealing something
if, like, we're out there inmasks.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Our friends are like what are y'all doing?
Yeah, okay, on Tuesdays we wearmasks.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But I mean, those are the lengths that some
celebrities have to go throughand I, I my heart goes out to
them because, yes, like you'retalented, you have all this
money, you have all this talent,you get to do these amazing
things and live this lavish life.
But there, there is still thosemoments where you're like dang.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I do wish I could just go to the grocery store by
myself, like she couldn't meanthink about Taylor Swift, like
she couldn't go to a grocerystore if she wanted to, or like,
yeah, and like you said, it'slike the trade-off and I know,
for me I feel like I could neverbe that level of famous,
because I think I would.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I want to be out in the world and not feel you know
I want to go out to WeHo withyou on the weekends and be and
not like be worried there was atime when I was living in
Orlando and was still at theheight of WWE in Florida.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
especially Orlando is a huge wrestling community that
, like anytime I would go out,people would recognize me.
Of course, there was like atime I was over-served.
It wasn't my fault.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That was such a good term.
She was over-served.
I was over-served at one of thegay bars.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think I was dancing on the bar Of at one of the gay
bars just living.
I think I was dancing on thebar, of course you were.
You know, like any other timewe hang out and then I see this
person bring out their cameraand like, oh my god, kayla
braxton.
And then, like they weren'tdoing it to be mean, yeah, but
then they like want to take apicture of me and what, and I
was like too, like inebriated tosay no.
But then the next day I'm like,oh, I don't like that, like I
really try to keep that part ofmy life very like protected or
like controlled.
(10:01):
I only let people see what Iwant them to see.
As far as my like like lettingloose For sure, because people
won't run with that, and there'salready.
A lot of people on the internetwere like Kayla has a drinking
problem because I'd post a glassof wine a few times a week.
Is it true?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Maybe I don't know, but it's not for you to say I
like having a glass of wineevery night, or two or six
tequila shots on a Saturday, Idon't know, or 60 kilo shots on
a.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Saturday.
I don't know, this is not anintervention episode.
Come back for that, however.
Okay, but I do want to, becausewe have all seen those photos
of Hailey and Justin over theyears.
I mean, like I see why peoplemight assume that he hates her
based on, like, his bodylanguage with her, or like she's
trying to hug him or kiss himand like he seems and we don't
(10:48):
really know what's going onthere, right, but like for me, I
know, like if my, if I'm withmy significant other, I want
them to like be so obsessed withme and like look so proud to be
next to me all the time.
Right, I feel like I wouldsettle for nothing less.
So I do.
I mean, I feel like theredefinitely was some issues in
that relationship.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm sure there were.
I feel like they've been prettyopen about that too.
I remember they did a Vogueinterview, I believe, years ago,
and they were pretty honestabout that.
You know they go to therapytogether.
They they are aware that theirlives are not traditional and
you know Justin was pretty openabout his struggles with mental
(11:22):
health and Haley was pretty openalso with having to work
through those struggles with him.
It's not easy to work withsomeone with mental issues.
I mean, I struggle with themall the time and my boyfriend
has to sit there and kind oflisten and it happens to me more
often, way more often than ithappens to him.
You know what I mean?
It's just that's just the typeof person I am, and I think I
(11:46):
don't know.
I feel like they seem prettynormal for not being normal,
yeah, no, true, you know, I hopethat it is, on all in all, a
good relationship for them to bein balance, like plenty of love
, love.
Yeah, there's going to be issuesas long as the love is there,
and I do feel like it's hard tosay when they're outside in the
(12:07):
public, because it's like, whywould they want to give us PDA?
I know Like that's just theyknow doing that, someone's going
to take a picture, they'regoing to be able to sell it and,
like you said, it's all aboutthe money.
All you want is money, money.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And I get it.
Woman, and as the one in therelationship who's getting like
the brunt of the criticism.
Like he hates her, like I, Ifeel like I felt bad.
So much for her, because that'shard.
You don't want the world tothink that your husband doesn't
like you and that's what I'mlike okay, well, maybe you
should have like put a littlemore effort into showing it,
which not that you needed to,but I think that's just how I
would react, because I don'twant to be like oh, I'm the fool
for staying in thisrelationship and everybody else
can see I mean.
There's no way.
I can't even imagine what itwould be like to be in a high
(12:45):
profile hollywood relationshiplike I think.
Two people that really got itdown is zendaya and tom holland.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I feel like they're so to themselves unproblematic.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
They love each other.
They you get a little pda hereand there, but like, but not too
much, too much.
They both said when she getspregnant, like they're gonna
quit hollywood and just beparents, like I think they just
got their head on straight withthat.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They seem very, very balanced and loving to each
other and I love sometimes whenthey're walking in and out from
a building or something.
He's so protective over her,but not in a mean way to anybody
, but he will literally hold youback.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Oh yeah, he's gone off on paparazzi for that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And you know, he's smaller than her.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I love that, but he does not care.
That is a short king.
Yeah, he is a short king.
He's a definition of short king, maybe he's not even short.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I just know she's probably really tall.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think he's short and she's like a supermodel.
So it's like you it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Now that we're getting ready for the last
season, we should also do that,and that was like one of the
most brilliantly that really hasdone so well, like even just
from the production side of it,like the film, cinematography is
just beautiful, even ifsomething so shitty is going on.
You're like, wow, it's justbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It looks really beautiful, though you're kind of
stunned by it, you know andjust everyone in.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
There is just an A-list class.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And I love seeing all their careers taking off.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
A-list class.
A-list class.
A-list class.
A-list class.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Not that they're all A-list celebrities, but like an.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
A-list cast.
You're not saying what you wantto say, but I know what you're
trying to say what am I saying?
I know what you're trying tosay.
Well, let me know if you knowwhat I'm trying to say An A plus
cast.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I know what you're trying to say A great cast is
what I was trying to say.
I was just trying to be alittle bit.
You know those are really goodcasts.
I was just trying to be likecool with my words, but
sometimes they don't come outthe way that I want them to.
Well, we cover, and all thecover artwork was just so dope
(14:47):
too, and yeah, it just shows theevolving of.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Justin Bieber.
So I'm hoping there's new fadesof his life.
It'll be interesting to seewhat artist he is in, like 20
years, like 40 years, and Ithink we're about to get on that
journey with him as he'smaturing with his music.
Oh for sure Someone else whoalso is going through a little
bit of a rebrand musically andmaybe a rebrand in her entire
life.
I'm confused as hell.
I think the internet sharesthat sentiment.
(15:12):
We're talking about Ms JojoSiwa, who has entered into her
bisexual era.
Welcome.
Never thought you'd be here,but we're happy to have you.
The internet is very divided.
On that retro cover I'm sureyou've all seen it, if you have
the internet or tiktok, uh, thebet davis, uh eyes with a nod to
her boyfriend.
(15:33):
I want to say that again to herboyfriend not girlfriend her
boyfriend, chris hughes, who Iactually thought maybe was a
little gay, I don't know well, Imean, it would make sense.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean what they?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
call lavender marriages.
They're just.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Maybe they're just bi , maybe they're both bi.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Maybe they're both bi .
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And that works too.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But if you saw it, she traded her signature style
for a 50s bob.
Red lipstick pearls one of theugliest ruffled crop tops I've
ever seen we're gonna do this,do it in a better way.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, it was I.
I still don't know if I have,like I got secondhand
embarrassment, word watching,words to say so cringy.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But I.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I feel like she was trying to vocally sound a little
bit like miley cyrus slash gflip I mean she's obsessed with
g flip, so and it just didn't itto me, it just didn't like hit
that mark for me, but I, I, Icould feel where she was trying
to go, like an ad for don'tsmoke, because that was the
(16:35):
raspiest, and then not only wasit raspy it was what did again.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
whoa jojo, are you in here?
It also is heavily auto-tuned.
So you have this raspyauto-tune and like anytime it
just I don't know it creeps meout Like listen, she's 22 years
old.
When I was 22, I probably waslike going through and finding
myself.
I think that's the first.
I think it's probably likeearly when I was like messing in
the bisexual world too, but Ididn't come out of being a
(17:00):
really like butch lesbian togoing it.
Just, this jump is confusingeverybody and I'm all for.
I'm all for finding yourselfright, and it's hard to do this
publicly because I feel like Ishould figure that stuff out
kind of behind closed doors andthen but this is a little
extreme, I feel like there couldhave been a step before this
it's definitely a 180 to who shewas just really strongly being.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know what I mean Like now it's like a she's a
trad wife.
She dressed like a damn trad.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Like, isn't that?
Completely like the?
That's regressive as hell.
All right for the gay community, we're going to, and for a
woman we're going to do thisaesthetic here, right right, it
was a very interesting choice,and I'm actually curious where
she's going to go next.
I mean, what's another Likemetal?
(17:54):
What's next Metal?
I could see her doing somemetal music.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I could too, honestly .
I mean because she used to havea mohawk, right yeah, Like a
faux hawk and the raspy voicewill sound better in that, but
this just wasn't it for me.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
But I'm going to try not to be a hater.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
No, but at the same time, I do think it's really
hard, like you just said, to bein this limelight and figuring
out what your sexuality is andpeople want to know so bad.
What you're doing, what you'refeeling, what, who are you doing
?
You know what I mean.
Like they want to know so bad.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And she's always extremely open and she is, and I
think that's probably whypeople like hate her, because I
think she's almost too open andwhich is her prerogative, yeah,
um, but like I think that's whypeople get so annoyed by her,
because it's like, oh my god,what is she doing today?
And is it?
And I think people questionlike, is this genuine or is this
just your like performative andtrying to get like a reaction?
(18:48):
Because, also based on, I reada lot of comments and like
reading the comments, she'sgetting so much hate anything
she does.
She gets hate, even like in hersuper lesbian era with like
that one song where she was likehaving an orgy with a bunch of
girls on the beach or whatever.
Um, she doesn't seem to give ashit and that's one thing I can
admire about her.
I don't think the criticisms orhaters affect her at all and
(19:09):
she just goes in harder, harderand for that I can respect.
But growing up, what Dance Moms, is that how famous?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I was going to say she was on one of like the
harshest shows.
Honestly, dance Moms likewatching that show now I mean I
grew up in a dance environmentas well, like a dance studio and
stuff, and shout out to all myDance Makers family and yeah,
there was like drama and stuff.
(19:34):
Always there's always going tobe drama, but like it was not
what I saw on Dance Moms, notlike that.
I mean she went through I meanall those girls did, but she
went through a lot on there, youknow, and honestly, like yeah,
I can't hate it.
You know why?
Because her mom was smartenough enough she took what she
did on dance mobs dance mobs.
What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
today that's a new color.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, dance mobs, um, and made an entire brand out of
her daughter and um, that'sreally really cool, and so I
think right now, like you said,we're just watching her figure
out what she likes to do whatshe wants.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean, Miley went through this, she's had this
forever.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, Miley even says when she was on the red carpet,
like when she was always likesticking out her tongue, like
whatever, and she said her momtold her one day you're going to
regret that and she's like,yeah, but like it gets people
talking.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And she admitted that , and maybe Miley taught her
this.
Maybe this is something thatmaybe Jojo she's a mentor to
Jojo and she said it Becauseit's true.
People are talking about it.
Yep, it is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That's why I'm excited to see where she evolves
to next, honestly, becauseright now she's a chameleon.
We don't know what we're goingto get from her.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So I'm not mad at her doing the different vibes of
herself, but I just just give us, give us a couple steps in
between something this drasticbecause I think that you just
ripped the rug out fromunderneath all of us with that
and I'm like I feel like she'strolling us, but I still I don't
know.
And she has every right toexplore this new feminine side,
(21:05):
because she hasn't really hadthe opportunity, or she just
hasn't gone down that route yetso um, you know what, Jojo, do
you?
But like, hit, hit us up if youneed some fashion tips, because
we got to work on the.
The feminine, the femininestyle, yes.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Or not even feminine.
If you want to dress likeboyish too, we can help with
that as well.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't think she and Chris Hughes are sharing any
clothes right now.
Oh my gosh.
The day they do, though, I knowI know We'll probably know
about it, we'll be talking aboutit.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
We will know about it , yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
All right.
Well, moving on from the musicworld, I'm going to talk a
little bit about the realityworld.
Fiona Shay, fanny Pump Rules,turns out Brock Davies cheated
on her while she was pregnantand she is just now spilling the
beans ahead of the release ofher memoir, memoir um.
She discovered it back in 2023,though, uh, but he cheated in
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2021 during covid and when shewas pregnant, was summer moon,
um, and then he later confessed,handing her a letter, um
detailing the affairs.
First off, he told her about itin a letter.
Bitch, I wish you would, if youwere, if you had the balls
enough to cheat on me while Iwas carrying your seed.
And then you tell me with theletter I don't even my daughter,
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my kid, would not have a father.
No, and she would not know whohe was.
No, and he would no longer beabove six feet.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know, I'm saying like, yeah, and and it is just a
very interesting thing too,because his background in the
beginning of the show when hewas brought on, yeah, is not in
a good light, right, because hehadn't talked to his own.
He hadn't talked to his kids forfour years or something like
that.
He was not allowed to see them,which we still kind of don't
(22:48):
know.
Oh well, he got into a fist orlike a altercation with his
person at that time, yeah, andwasn't allowed to see his kids.
So he already had like anegative connotation.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, he came into the show.
Everyone already hated him.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So to have him do this, it's not necessarily
surprising, but it is surprisingthat it's coming out right now.
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
If anyone follows Sheena Shay, even she's making
these little appearances on thespinoff show, the Valley.
She's not a cast member, butshe keeps showing up and it's so
funny to watch because she's sohyper aware of the camera.
She wants to be in thelimelight.
So bad.
That is like everything to her.
She needs to be wherever thecamera is, and so it is like
weird, and I do think she has ahabit of making things about her
(23:31):
.
That's the thing she'll like.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
She turns everything that's not about her to being
about her, even with Scandivalyeah, I mean I, and I also think
that she, like Lisa, alwaystells her I don't feel like I'm
getting the whole truth from youlike tell me actually what's
going to be transparent with me,like I, you know she's like I
want to help you.
If that's the case, you know so.
I.
It's not surprising that shedidn't talk about it on the show
(23:54):
.
Well see.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I am surprised because I feel like she would
have used that to catapult herlike an Ariana moment or a
Brittany moment.
Cause now Brittany, with allthe fallout with uh, with Jax
Taylor, like I think she's evenshe's probably a little in like
Lala Kent, I think was a littlebitter that she didn't get the
Ariana treatment with theRandall thing Right.
These girls liked oh, I was thescorn or I was the one done
wrong in my relationship.
(24:14):
Now hand me a Love Island hostcontract, Right, Give me a
Dancing with the Stars contract.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And they did Give me a batteries contract.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You know she got that huge-.
Oh yeah, I know that huge dealwith the battery company after
this girl.
Oh then Tom was like I don'tknow, you don't buy batteries,
so I'm going to go fuck yourbest friend.
You know, this seems like anequal.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
you know, tit for tat , I feel like we're even now,
you know.
But, also to have a, because headmitted that he had a separate
phone right, that it wentthrough like a who Brock, he had
like a separate phone, I think,or something like that, right,
but that he had like a separatephone, I think, or something
like that, right?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But that he was like texting others yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And that just sounds like so much work.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Cheating just seems really difficult, like I feel
like for me.
I don't even like having oneperson honestly like and next
week I'm going to get more intothis I'm going to have I have
some personal news that I'llshare next week about me and my
relationships, but it was alovely relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I typically don't like them and I can imagine
having to juggle more than oneperson's feelings and then
having to keep my story straightand having to make two people
feel special and wanted, likethat is so much work, I had a
friend who I knew was beingunfaithful to a partner and I
just remember, kept telling herthat I'm so worried about your
karma, because how do you goback and be with your person,
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how do you like, and just lookthem in the eye and I love you
nothing is going on diabolical.
I couldn't, my anxiety, I wouldliterally have a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I will be, because also you can't like we don't
like lying and we're not good atit and I don't want to lie Like
that's just again.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Like my brain can only hold so much information
here.
Like I wish I could hold more,but again like it's too much.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
There's been a time or two I've like wanted to lie.
I'm like preparing it in myhead Okay, lie, lie, lie, Just
deny, deny, deny, lie, lie, lie.
They ask a question.
I'm like truth, Like.
I just can't do it Because I'mlike I think it's just going to
be better in the end if I justcan get it out instead of
holding on to it.
(26:25):
It's always going to be betterin the end if you tell your
truth and speak your truth.
But I am curious, though, aboutthe Sheena thing, because I
don't buy.
I just I don't feel like that'sher personality.
I feel like she would haveimmediately been the one that's
like.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
So I, I want to but I I think she's also very
protective of her energy and herrelationships.
She's always been like that.
I mean even her ex-husband, youknow.
No one knew that he had a drugaddiction, um, until until it
came out, it came out you knowlike, and was very, very
protective about that.
We know that she knew.
Yeah, I mean she didn't knowthe whole time, but when she did
(26:56):
find out I guarantee it wasn'tnot everybody knew right when
she found out.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But I don't think it's to protect him.
I don't think it's to protectthem.
I think she cares very muchabout what people think about
her.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
For sure, but you are right.
At the end of the day, she isjust about protecting herself.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
She is, she is Okay, but I want to like breaking it
down real quick.
Also, when she found out shethrew a Rubik's cube at him.
Just thought that was a littlefunny.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I wonder if it was like already done.
Who's like?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
oh yeah, was, oh yeah .
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Was it already done in the?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
shoe through, or was it still like all jumbled up?
It was already done and then itgot jumbled up, I'd be like.
That'd be a good like.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
fuck you, Because if it's jumbled up, that's going to
really hurt Because you knowit's all like twisted, but if
it's actually all done it's justa square.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
There's corners on a square, vanessa, I know.
But so he said he was scared offatherhood so he picked sex
with a side piece over hispregnant wife.
So do we call that being acoward?
Is that a criminal offense?
Like I think that's just,that's just.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I think that's just a bullshit answer for saying I
don't want to be a father, soI'm gonna go cheat on you?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What Also you're?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
already a father.
Yeah, I was going to say firstof all, you're already a father.
So that statement actuallydoesn't even make sense.
It doesn't Scared of fatherhood.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You mean like not absentee fatherhood which we
already used to.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, because actually he was an absent father
so for at least four years.
We know that.
So it's like he's feeling whichis so messed up.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You would think he would go overdrive and try to be
the best His kids probablywatched.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I'm sure they're old enough now to know that he's on
this show called the AntipodeRules and that everyone knows
that he was not around for fouryears and that he punched his
mom or his baby mama wifewhatever they were at the time,
I'm not sure, but I'm like dang,if that was my dad I would be
so I know I would be so sad.
(28:54):
I would just like, because thatwould make me really think I
was just such an unwanted person.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This also makes me call bullshit on, like all of
him being so emotional wheneveryone found out like I love
my kids, ok, but then what didyou just do?
You have your unborn child andthen you cheat on its mother,
like make it make sense.
How are you so remorseful aboutlike I call bullshit, I don't
like the guy.
I don't know, I don't think Iwould like the guy.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Also, it's like talk about like generational trauma,
like how traumatic are you?
How messed up is it that yourwife is pregnant, super
connected, obviously physically,with this child, and you giving
her all of this heaviness andweight is also giving it to your
unborn child.
They know, you know what I mean.
Like we are connected fromgenerations before this
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generation and unfortunately itjust sucks Like I hate that this
is such an innocent personbeing Not even getting a chance
to come into like a normalfamily because, now, this kid's
going to know about thisobviously.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And then it's going to know about this obviously.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And then it's going to be and people don't think
about these kids going to schooland getting bullied.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
She's going to read the book eventually.
Yeah, it's sad.
Do you think if this happens,if you were pregnant and he
cheats on you while you'repregnant, is there a world where
you could forgive that?
Like what do you think youwould do?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Absolutely not.
No, do you think you would do?
Absolutely not.
No, I I know we've talked aboutthis before just cutting you.
You're really good at cuttingfriendships off.
I am really good at if I'm done, done in a relationship, it's
done.
Yeah, like and, and I justthink infidelity like that, it's
calculated yeah.
(30:28):
Like you intentionally had tocurate or curate, carve out time
to go do this and leave yourpregnant wife who I'm sure could
use you, just literally sittingon the couch next to her with
your hand on her belly, not eventalking, just chilling watching
TV.
But instead you decided toleave her and go be with
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somebody else.
Like that is just.
That's really hard to wrap mymind around.
I mean sure, not sure, but sure, cheat on somebody when they're
not pregnant is still messed up.
But like to be pregnant and youknow that the baby feels
everything that the mom is goingthrough, that is just like
beyond, I know and she didn'tbeing as emotional as she is I
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don't even know how she.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't know how she stayed, other than just for I
think she has always wanted afamily, so bad but, she, you
could, you saw how she was withher last husband her husband and
like she just loves, loves somuch and that's all she wants.
And I do feel really bad forher because I can't imagine what
like the like um, like the p,the PTSD or postpartum was like
because of that even more.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
And now she has to live the rest.
If you know, if they decide tostay together forever, I don't
know.
I feel like I would have tocheck somebody's phone all the
time.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I would have to look at their DMs?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I would have to.
Are you actually going to thegrocery store or?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
like, are you?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I don't know, like I just feel like I would spiral,
my brain would just spiral and Iwould just have thoughts all
the time.
And so I think it would beeasier for me to just be like
you know what, let's justco-parent, you do you, I'll do
me, and like, for the sake ofour child, we will be fine when
we're all together.
As a quote, unquote family.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well, brock you better get your shit together,
because if you have two separatesets of kids now that you are
not involved in their livesbecause of decisions that you've
made, yeah, this is like amoment.
You take a deep look intoyourself and this happened many
years ago.
So they seem to be doing finenow.
So hopefully this was a onetime thing.
But when it comes to cheating,obviously it's non-negotiable,
(32:42):
it's done like you said.
But what is worse?
Do you think emotional cheatingor physical cheating?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I honestly think emotional for me it would hit
harder.
Because physical to me is like,okay, well, you just need to
like get your dick hard forsomething or whatever.
Probably it's just like amental thing, like some guys
wake up with like hard ons inthe morning out of nowhere you
(33:09):
know what I mean.
It's like that.
That's just like a physical,like you climax, you're done.
But an emotional connection iswe're talking about a lot of
different things.
I'm letting you into a part ofmy portal that that I don't let
everybody in.
You know, what I mean.
So I I don't know.
For me, emotional cheating is Iwould.
(33:30):
That makes me question moreabout like myself, like how come
you didn't feel like you couldcome and be open with me, but
you can be open with this likestranger, where I just think
like sometimes sex is sex.
You know what I mean, and Ihate to say that, but it's like,
yeah, some people can just dothat.
It's like, oh, I just got off,but I don't really care about
them.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, that's what's funny.
A lot of times you hear it likein movies and people say in
real life, when the the girl'scrying because she just found
out her partner cheated on herand the first question is always
do you love her as in, likethey're ready to forgive and put
it behind them.
If the answer is no, yep andit's.
I think it is a weird thingsociety has done.
Though, when it comes to likegender roles, like I think a lot
(34:09):
of times men get kind of theyget.
They get off easily, no punintended, yeah but, I feel like
no they'll cheat and thenthey'll get forgiven.
And then it's like maybethey'll cheat again and get
forgiven again, whereas I think,and then women, I I even have
some really like, uh, likehard-ass people growing up who
(34:31):
would probably be like, well,well, if your husband cheated on
you, you need to just figure itout for the family.
As a woman Like you're justexpected to, just like men can't
help it, like you said and whatdid you do, men, just get horny
and they have to go have sexLike they can't help it, so you
have to forgive them.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Rolled reverse, we'd be called a whore and a witch
and hung in town square.
Absolutely, you know,absolutely.
Do you think it was in the bestinterest for Sheena to not say
anything for two years?
And, you know, bypass all theBravo fires that she would have
gotten about announcing that onthe show?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't know, I think it's a weird, I think it's a
calculated move, because it'slike why?
Now?
I mean I know why, it's becausethe memoir for sure but I still
can't figure out, knowing whatwe know of sheena, why she
wouldn't have brought it up backthen, because it just that's
not, that's out of her character.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
If she'd be the one that's like, well, I'm going
through this too, yeah, and thenmake everything about her,
because what she's known do, andmaybe she just grew a little
bit right and didn't want tobring it on the show because of
the scandal of all stuff thatwas happening and because of
Lala's situation and like Idon't know.
Maybe she was just like youknow what.
I'm going to let them live thisout on this season and I'm just
(35:46):
not even going to bring it up.
I mean, I don't know, I wouldlike to think that people grow
and, you know, change and takeaccountability for their actions
.
But who am I?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I think Josh does her hair, so I'm going to ask Josh
to like get all these answersout of her, josh, we need to
know.
Or just bring Sheena.
Well, that'll be a guess, we'lljust bring.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Sheena on to tell.
We'll just bring Sheena on theshow.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Okay, from reality TV now to one of the better shows
that have come out lately thatwe were talking about.
Yes, we've got to talk aboutthe studio Seth Rogen.
Love the guy so great.
Also, like we've seen SethRogen for the last 20 years on
our TV, this is the first time.
I was kind of like daddy.
Yeah, you know something aboutthis salt and pepper.
(36:30):
Like older Seth and Rogan, I'mkind of into.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
You know, what's so annoying Is that guys just get
like hotter over the yearswithout doing any skincare to
their face or like dyeing theirhair.
Meanwhile we have to have likeBotox and like filler and like
get our hair done.
And oh, also, mariah hair, justdid my hair today your hair is
(36:53):
so cute.
Yes, at Mariah hair.
She did it.
Why don't you do my hair?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I know we're, we gotta, we gotta go to her.
This is not fair.
We cannot be coming in here onthis show.
Vanessa's walking in on.
She's just walking into thevilla on love Island looking all
glam and then I look like this.
This is not fair.
This is unequal.
I will not stand for it anymore.
That's me laying on businessLaying on business.
Next we're going to have tohave at least one episode a
(37:20):
month where we both go seeMariah and come to the and so
you guys can see the styles thatshe does for us.
Okay, yes, but okay, yeah.
So you, what did you love mostabout the studio?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Like what, what you love most about the studio?
Like what, what did it do foryou?
I just loved how honest andtransparent it was to viewers of
what it actually is like behindthe scenes of a set, and not
even just a set like behind thescenes, like the production of
it all.
I mean the amount of times thatI've seen people walk on set
and you could just feel theenergy change in the room.
It's so insane.
And Matt Seth Rogen's characteranytime he walks into a room,
(38:03):
like when they're shooting orwhen there's something there,
you could just feel everyone'sjust like, oh shit.
Well, so those who don't knowthe show.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Seth Rogen's character, matt, plays a studio
head here in hollywood and so hejust got the job in episode one
and it just shows him likedetailing the life of a studio
exec.
It is funny on that, like thatone episode at the house.
At the house everyone justclenches up their assholes
because the studio exec is theremaking all these changes.
You can't say no, you gotta dowhat he says, even if it like
you lose your sunset shot.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yep and the sun is setting like that, you can't
stop the sun settings.
And and then also it's supposedto be this one elaborate, long,
beautiful take and he justkeeps ruining it.
He's ruining it to the pointwhere it's like everyone just
wants to kill him.
Uh, catherine O'Hara oh my godphenomenal.
(38:52):
I mean everyone in it is justphenomenal like and and the way
that everyone's uh at differentenergy you know you got the
execs, who are like, you know,like the white girl who, like,
tries to act a little more urbanshe's wearing all her Louis.
Vuitton and like the Prada she'sjust like head to toe in
designer outfits and stuff andlike she's the cool girl Loud
(39:15):
mouth and crude and there'salways these characters exist,
like they really pulled thesecharacters from real life.
Yeah, and it's so fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
It is fun.
It's just a different world.
But even like the issues thatthey touched on, one of the main
plots of the entire show was uh, they're making a kool-aid
movie.
They had to make this kool-aidmovie, which was just a
ridiculous.
I don't know where they pulledthat out of, but also I was kind
of like I'd watch that yeahespecially if you know well
they're.
So they cast ice cube askool-aid and they were set on
(39:49):
this whole situation.
It was a go.
Then they started building thisfamily and the cast around it,
and then they're sitting thereand like the drawing board and
they're like, oh no, we can'tmake.
We can't make Ice Cube black,that's racist.
And so the whole episode isjust going down this rabbit hole
of what to do in order to makesure that this movie doesn't
offend anybody.
I'm like that's so on point,like even working in
(40:12):
entertainment, like the whole,like diversity, you know hires
and making sure that you'rebeing diverse without being
obviously diverse.
And so then it becomes aformative and it's like are you,
do you really care about theseissues, or you just care about
what people think about theissues?
It was so fun to watch them,like it's so fun.
Honestly, I was like you knowone movie that I'll never forget
, honestly I was, like you know,one movie that I'll never
(40:35):
forget uh cinderella, with uhbrady brandy.
Brandy, not brady, oh my gosh,you guys, it's.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
It's been a long week okay um brandy who plays
cinderella, and that whole castis so just random, like she has
a a black mom and a a white dad,and then there's an Asian
prince and it's like it's just.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
they were just like fuck it Melting pot go, and that
was the most and I loved it.
I loved that and it's justfunny to like see them cast
trying to make the cast rightand then they're like, oh well,
now everyone's black we can'thave everyone black, and that's
what I would love to have beenlike in the war room for the
Cinderella remake and like whatthey thought about that too, or
how, maybe how it like startedinto what it turned out Because
(41:15):
you know there were millions ofconversations saying are you
sure?
Well, having a black littlemermaid.
People are still pissed offabout that.
Yeah, it just keeps.
Or yeah, rachel Ziegler, notbeing white enough for Snow
White Right.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, never ending battle.
So you mentioned earlier ascene that happened.
That probably happens more thannot.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yes, there is a scene where they are going to
CinemaCon and it's a big, bigevent for them.
And Seth Rogen's character,Matt, is like we're going to
have an old Hollywood party thenight before, because he wants
(41:57):
everyone just to get to knoweach other better and feel good
and unfortunately, he basicallydrugs everyone.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Well, it's the Hollywood buffet, as they called
it, which I'm like.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I think that sounds like a great time they have all
the party favors, but the onethat makes the biggest splash in
the episode is mushroomchocolate and Zoe Kravitz's
character just goes in on thechocolates because they're just
so great and they're so good,not knowing what they were.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
In the midst of eating the the fifth chocolate,
she finds out that they arelaced with mushrooms and she's
supposed to be giving this bigspeech at the convention, so
this is a problem.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yes, um and she played.
I mean, we, we both hadmushroom journeys before and um,
so I I know how it candifferentiate for everybody, but
she played that off.
Oh my gosh, it was just so good.
Just everything about her.
I just love her.
I know she's just so great andwhenever she's in something I'm
(43:04):
like I'm watching it.
I know I'm watching it.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
But it was I know, and they're all just on a
mushroom just trying to getthrough it.
Everything ended up turning outrelatively fine.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
No, everything turned out like maybe we should all
like do mushrooms before we havelike a big right.
You know, next time we filmwe'll do some mushrooms and see
how it turns out.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I guess, um something else was funny and that there's
so many.
There were so many good momentsin that show I was.
I loved that um at the awardshow and matt was just so
desperate to get like a shoutout by zoe kravitz to the point
he's like back there trying tochange a teleprompter before her
speech.
Make sure he gets a thank you.
Um, just freaking.
And then sal uh, who was likehis under um it's, it's like his
(43:48):
assist or not?
Speaker 1 (43:50):
his assistant, but it's like a partner of his and
what's it?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I don't know why I'm blanking on his real name.
Everything he does, I love isso hilarious um, but the the
whole joke of the whole episodewas that entire night, as hard
as matt matt was trying to get ashout out, sal became.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
He became a meme of the awards, to the point where
they started writing him in theteleprompter and people after
their speeches would be like andwe love Sal.
Like it was just so funny.
What is his real name?
I know this is bothering me,Ike.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Barinholtz Ike, Ike Barinholtz Look.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I should knowthat I feel like Ike Barinholtz.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I should knowthat I feel like I've watched so
much stuff with him in it.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Oh yeah, he's been around forever.
He's so good, so funny and it'sjust so interesting because I
get it.
Look, even on Instagramwhenever you have a project, a
creative project, everyonedeserves their flowers, everyone
deserves to be tagged in therole that they played in that
(44:54):
project.
And you know, for dancersspecifically, you know, a lot of
times they don't get theirflowers and a lot of artists who
really appreciate and lovetheir dancers have started to
literally tag them even in thecaption when it comes to a music
video or a performance, and itdoes make a difference.
It does, and so I understandwhy he wanted to.
(45:15):
You know, he just got promotedin the season.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
So having his name?
That's how it started.
Yeah, so it makes sense thathe'd want like credit.
Yes, it does go a long way.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
It does.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And you're the one who put all of this like legwork
into her project.
To like not even getting alittle like thank you, and then
all the top of the top people inHollywood are in that room.
I get it.
I'd be the same way Exactly.
I'd have my feelings hurt, ohand also the end of it.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
she does thank him, but the mic cuts out, the mic
cuts out and everyone's cheeringand screaming for her and he's
just like I think it was his momwho calls him and she's like,
well, she didn't say your name.
And he's like God.
She did, though she did, didn'tyou see her mouth in?
It's like her mouth is righthere, so like you can't even see
(46:01):
that she's mouthing his name,she just like ADR'd it and then
put it out.
Oh my gosh Poor guy.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Great guy, great show .
Great show.
Definitely, if you like, arecurious about what happens in
hollywood and studio execs andlike, even like scorsese, and
like him burying his project,the jonestown movie, which is
about the infamous jonestownmassacre, massacre, with, you
know, the drink, the kool-aid.
So then matt's trying to liketurn his kool-aid movie into
like, somehow find out where todo both, but then instead it's
what is show.
It was Scorsese's last movieever and this was meant
everything to him and he wasovercome with emotion that he
was going to finally get hismovie bought by the studio, only
(46:37):
for them to kill it so that itcouldn't be made.
Yep, like, I bet that happens.
I even hear agent or maybe youtold me or somebody told me will
sign you to make sure that youdon't work so it doesn't affect
another one of their clients.
You're too close with like, tooclose and like.
Oh, I, yes, I did it.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
This is a mess up.
I haven't had that happen to me.
I don't not that I know of, butI.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
That's insane and does it keep you buried?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
definitely happen, yeah it's just like uh, like uh
artists.
You know what I mean.
They get signed to an agencyand they shelf them yeah, you
know, and then they can't doanything because you signed a
contract.
So it's really difficult, butthis show was just the perfect
depiction of what it what goeson.
I mean, there's just so manylayers to it too.
It's like even, like you know,scorsese asking his lead actor
(47:23):
in the film like what he thinksabout the film.
And oh, no one was.
He's like oh, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
And then, like he turns around, he's like you need
to help me.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
You need to say something.
And he's like wait, no, I'm notsaying anything.
Like you say something.
Like they're like he could, hecould end my career.
Like I'm just the lead actorhe's Martin Scorsese.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
You know what I mean?
It's just top studio execs arenot the head honcho, nope.
So, they have plenty of peopleto answer to anyway.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
All right.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Well, wow, that went by so quickly.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Well, we are going to introduce for the first time
the honey jar.
I'm so excited to bring her out.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
It's not an actual honey jar.
We can probably do better thanthis moving forward.
But actually what was in thisjar?
I think a friend got this forme.
It than this moving forward,but actually what was in this
jar?
I think a friend got this forme and it was full of like
affirmations and I was like thatlooks like an affirmation jar,
so I took all the affirmationsand threw them in a trash can,
and then I made up my ownquestions.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
So I don't need them.
Oh, Kayla, Kayla, Kayla.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
All right you want to go first.
Sure, I actually don't rememberwhat any of these are, so, and
I feel like we made this onetime ago.
We did, and if it's a stupidquestion, you don't have to do
it.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Okay, what's your villain origin story?
One sentence only, oh.
I was high drunk when I wrotethese, I'm like this is a really
intense question.
What's your villain originstory?
And I can't read.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
What's your?
Speaker 1 (48:52):
villain origin story and I can't read what's in your
cup.
It's actually just watermelonjuice today.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
It's not even alcohol , maybe we need to put the
alcohol dot in there?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I think so we need to start having like champagne
again before we end our episodes.
So you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
one word, that's hard .
Speaker 1 (49:08):
One sentence, only, oh, one sentence.
Oh my gosh, I don't word.
That's hard.
One sentence only, oh, onesentence.
Oh my gosh, I don't know what'syours, what is my villain?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Born.
I was born in a prison, givenaway.
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
That's a pretty good orange answer.
I don't think I can beat that.
I was born and life happenedand here we are.
That wasn't a good one.
(49:50):
That was not a good one.
We're just going to cut thatone out.
We're just going to let Kaylahave her.
No, we're going to keep thatone in there.
Actually, that is a hard one.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah like Do you want a different?
Speaker 1 (49:58):
one Bullied into, I was bullied into this life,
bullied into this life and Iturned into a villain.
Yes, okay, you pick this one,let's see we need to go take.
I need to go take like animprov class.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
What's your go-to lie when you're trying to get out
of plans?
You know it's funny.
I've actually gotten reallygood about just saying I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Same.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
But for a long time I wouldn't make up lies and
normally I've like blamed my guyfriends.
I don't hang out and I sayperiod.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
They're like okay, of course, yeah, um and then women
just get it, they just get itexactly um, yeah, typically it's
something to do with my, withmy health.
I, I, if, if I say anything,it's probably just I already
have plans even if I don't.
I mean my plan is to sit on thecouch with my cat, so
technically yeah, I already dohave a plan, it's just not with
(50:53):
you, with you, and you know.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
There's nothing better.
And I'll tell you this as myfriend I typically get so
excited if the other personcancels the plans because I've
already wanted to be out of them.
I'm never the friend that'slike oh my God, why would you
cancel?
Because we have friends.
If you cancel on me, I'm likeyou just got more points, so I
love it.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
It is so funny.
Like have you been a personWell, actually, no, you just
said it.
But like, so, I'm not a personthat gets upset when people
cancel.
Even if it's like I swear toyou, even if it's like 20
minutes before I have to leavethe house and I'm already ready,
I'm like it's okay.
Yeah, you know, but I, you know, but I know a lot of people who
, yeah, get really upset aboutthat.
(51:30):
I'm like no, because at the endof the day, you're canceling
and that just means I get tostay home now, exactly.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Unless it's like my birthday or something like that,
of course, so that'd be onething, but if it's just like
another random night, a randombrunch or random, going to a bar
and our friends are so busy tothe point where it's like we
have to cancel plans all thetime anyway.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Like, even if we like book a job randomly, it's like,
oh, can't do it then because Ilearned that I'm booked on a job
yesterday.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, for sure there's just so many things that
go into it.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm going to do one more each.
Yes, oh, did you hear that onmy elbow?
Okay, let's see here.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Hot take.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Overrated hot take overrated celebrity, go
overrated celebrity, overratedcelebrity.
Oh, that's just so many of them.
Jojo siwa, I don't know.
I don't know if she'sconsidered overrated, I don't
think she's overrated.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Maybe I don't even think she's rated.
You know what I mean.
She's, she's, all, she's allover the place she's not even
rated yet.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Overrated celebrity.
Oh, if I say that, I can't sayI have one, but I shouldn't say
it.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
I don't know, I'm going to sip my water.
I was going to say this is notsip or spill, vanessa.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
You know, I think it's all like subjective too,
right?
Not really, I guess that'sprobably not.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I'll say JLo, I wouldn't.
I would not agree with you inthe past.
But I do think presently.
Yes, I do.
I think I think we got to.
You know, she has so manybeautiful things that go on in
her life and like collaborationsand brand deals and all this
stuff, and it's like I justdon't think you need to perform
anymore.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Well, it's okay to go away and disappear for a while
and then come back in like fiveyears with like some banging new
material, but she's so overlyexposed and she keeps herself in
limelight even amidst all ofher scandal, like go away, for
so people wouldn't like forgetwhy they don't like you.
Right, because right, whichsucks, because she's been
performing for decades anddecades and has been one of the
(53:31):
number one artists of all timeand celebrities of all time and
she's always going to be JLo,obviously, but it's like when
you start to do the things thatshe's doing now, presently, it
sort of diminishes youriconicness.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
She is an icon and she for always.
Yeah, she will always be anicon, but right now I do feel
like it's like let us miss you.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
It's like when you're around a significant other too
much and you get sick of thembecause they're always there,
like go away and let me miss you.
Yes, exactly, all right, we'lldo one more.
Okay, pick one.
Rich and hated or broke andbeloved.
Okay, pick one.
Rich and hated or broke andbeloved.
Rich and hated.
Rich and hated.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Hate me all you want.
Because you are not in my bankaccount.
I will wipe my tears with myhundreds.
I will wipe my tears, wipe myass with my pillowcase with all
the cash.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I will be just fine.
Hate me and pay me.
People already hate me and I'llalready hate you.
So which, by the way, we'rebasically just like kind of
contradicting what we said aboutJLo, because she's got all the
money and she's hated.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
So she's actually doing exactly what we would do
Touche, touche, jlo.
Sorry, we take it back, youknow what You're doing exactly
what.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Okay, we just backtracked on everything, so,
but this is what accountabilityis called.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
We grew so much in 20 seconds.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yep, yep yep, that's what she said, that's what he
said, I don't know anyway.
Uh, that's it for this week'sepisode.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
That was fun that was so fun.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
I love that we're gonna bring this back we are for
weeks to come yes uh, let usknow your opinions on any of the
topics we talked about.
Whether it be the beebs jojo,let us know if you watch any of
the topics we talked about.
Whether it be the Biebs JoJo,let us know if you watch the
studio.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, so, oh, remember, we are serving the
best tea in West Hollywood withyour favorite ingredients.
Was that good?
That was good, okay, good, seeyou guys next week.
Bye.
What's your villain origin story?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And I can't read.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's in your cup?
It's actually just watermelonjuice.
Today, it's not even alcohol.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, here we are again.
Welcome back everyone toanother episode of Milk and
Honeys.
We are your hosts.
I'm Kayla Becker.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And I am Vanessa Curry.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know about this podcast by now.
We talk about pop culture, ourpersonal drama, whatever makes
us question our life choices,and let me tell you there's
quite a bit these days.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh, yes, there is, and today's episode is pretty
stacked we have to talk about.
Justin Bieber just dropped asurprise album Swag that we
listened to.
I already listened to the wholealbum and you know JoJo Siwa is
back in the headlines again formaybe confusing herself or
(00:57):
everyone Confusing me.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And we're also going to talk about the studio on
apple tv.
It just might be the mostaccurate depiction of hollywood,
and I just love it so much it'slike before.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It would have been entourage, I feel like, was like
the best, like example of howhollywood is yes, it took it to
like that next level, um, evenfrom the way that I feel like
they their camera movements,just the one continuation shots,
just it was so high paced.
But yeah, we'll get into that.
The show's been out for a whilebut Vanessa texted me today and
she's like hey, can we talkabout the studio?
I'm like that's one of myfavorite shows lately.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm re-watching it because it's so good, because I
know I missed things the firsttime I watched it.
So, like I'm going back andit's even funnier, we'll have
like a we'll do a day, a weekendwhere we just watch the whole
thing and you know, gotta talkabout a little bit of hot goss.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So we've had one member of this show, peter
magical, on our show earlier on,but we're now we're talking
about miss sheena.
Shea, bless her heart, she justhas the hardest time just
finding her place in the worldand she, uh, recently revealed
that she has her husband brockactually cheated on her while
she was pregnant.
Um, she found this out a fewyears ago, but she's just now
coming out with this informationconveniently right before she
(02:10):
releases her memoir.
So my kind of thing is like whyare you coming out with this
now?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
but hey, whatever, if you got to use your own
personal shit to sell some booksdo you girl, and look, I mean,
at the end of the day, she hasto be honest because it's in the
memoir.
So you might as well let thepeople know now, before they
read it and are shocked.
Gosh, there's so much dramacirculating that?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We'll get to that.
Yes, we will get to that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But we're also debuting the Honey Jar.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
The Honey Jar 11 episodes in.
We have a jar that looks like ahoney jar with some questions,
and we're going to get to thatat the end of the show.
So this is going to be a fun,fun little day.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
All right, let's go ahead and get into it.
We talked about Justin Bieber,who just released his what
number album is this?
It's the first one in manyyears.
It's called Swag.
I did not know what it wasgoing to be going into it.
He's had a lot of differentversions of himself over the
years, which is to be expectedin this industry.
(03:09):
I really enjoyed this.
It felt like maybe he hadgotten a little inspired by
Michael Jackson.
It's very smooth, but he's agrown-ass man.
Now he's a husband and he's afather.
He's got more differentstruggles to be singing about.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
What did you think about it when you first listened
to it?
I actually really liked it.
It's vibey.
It's one of those things wherewe can put on and have a glass
of wine.
Maybe you know if you'resomebody who partakes in.
You know marijuana here andthere.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't know what we're supposed to call it.
Like a joint, like you, likesome glass, a little joint, not
that you should light up anddrive right, be in the passenger
side.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, yeah, have a driver.
Have a driver, then light upand then get in the passenger
side with the top down, down pca.
That's what it felt like.
It felt.
It felt very mature.
Um, I loved my.
I think one of my favorite oneshonestly like that made me
giggle was I think it's calleddaisy and it's about hayley,
okay or yeah I was like hayleybaldwin, they're married.
Bieber, they're married.
Yeah, same thing.
And it was just sweet he talksabout like his phone, the phone
case he references that and thelip gloss in the phone case.
(04:11):
It's like it kind of made megiggle and I was like, oh,
that's kind of cute.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I love that.
Well, it is cute.
I think this album was an odeto her.
Because, god, I mean, what wasthe other song, walking Away?
Because everyone has beenobviously criticizing their
marriage they know nothing about, based on some photos paparazzi
might snap of them, lookinglike maybe they're not all over
each other, but in the song helike promised her I'm never
walking away and I was like, oh,that's so sweet.
Like he put all these criticsto rest.
(04:35):
There's no, they're not goingto be a part of some big
hollywood divorce anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Hopefully I hope not, yeah, I hope not, yeah, I hope
not, and also I did really love.
Also he takes some snippetsfrom that paparazzi clip the
paparazzi incident that he had.
And you know, the man's justtrying to what lay on business?
Is that what he said?
Stand on business or stand onbusiness, lay on business or lay
on it.
I would love to lay on businessSometimes it's exhausting,
(05:01):
let's start.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's going to be our new phrase.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We're going to lay on business.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, it is cool.
We've since baby days.
We all grew up with some.
Justin Bieber Absolutely thatpoor kid, I feel like has just
had a rough go at it growing upin Hollywood and has constantly
had people try to bring him down.
Of course, he has been involvedin potentially one of the
biggest scandals happening inHollywood.
There's no telling what's goingthrough his mind.
(05:27):
And then people are seeingJustin Bieber out at these
festivals looking like he's onsomething or drunk.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He's having a good time Like we go out and have a
good time.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
If someone had their phone in my face every time I'd
be like why can't people justhave a good time without being
criticized?
Oh, they're off the wagon, theyprobably need to go to rehab,
or he is just having.
He's tying one on, he's havinga night he's out, he's doesn't
have the baby.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If he had the baby in his arms and he's like that's
one thing a little.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, tipsy or whatever, she went a little too
hard.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But then I'd have some concerns, but I I genuinely
don't even on, even when he'son stage, when he performed with
sZA, and people, yeah were werecriticizing and I'm like I
don't know.
Like I grew up dancing and Igrew up dancing on big stages
and that's not being the mainartist, but even as a dancer on
a massive stage, that feeling isso euphoric and it's just you
(06:19):
feel like you're drunk or ondrugs or like whatever.
And maybe he was, which istotally fine.
What?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
stars are up there, like literally public.
There's been following this new, not artist.
You're drunk or on drugs orlike whatever, and maybe he was,
which is totally fine.
What stars are up there, likeliterally public.
There's uh been following thisnew, not artist, newest artist,
young blood.
I'm obsessed.
Go look him up.
Uh, okay, a little bit of acrush on the guy.
I don't think I'm his type, butuh, he's ozzy osbourne's
successor.
Ozzy osbourne, basically at hislast concert, like recently, um
(06:42):
for black sabbath, basicallylike handed the torch to this
guy named Youngblood.
That's awesome.
But he's so open and funny,like this is my first drink
before my show.
This is my first drink, lastdrink, yep and he's having a
good time and it's like why dowe have to start villainizing
people for just enjoyingthemselves, right, you know,
enjoying themselves, I thinkalso for Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
He got his start at such a young age and he was so
successful at such a young age,and I think we forget sometimes
that these people are justpeople.
Yeah, and the moments where wemake mistakes, most of our
mistakes are not filmed or beingfollowed by paparazzi.
(07:21):
And so there's times, you know,I remember years ago, when he
like ran over a paparazzi's.
And so there's times, you know,I remember years ago, when he
like ran over a paparazzi's foot.
It's like he didn't mean to dothat, man, you were just
standing out of the way you wereliterally standing in front of
his car, like what is hesupposed to do?
He's trying to just go to thegrocery store and get in his car
and go home, and so it's.
It is hard.
I think we were just seeing himfigure out his life, like who
(07:43):
he is, as a young man, and thennow you know, he's getting into
fatherhood, he's getting ontoanother journey, another path,
and you know, I heard somethingnot too long ago that Drake was
talking about when he goes to Ithink it was Drake or was it
Chris Brown, I don't remember,but one of the two whenever
they're out of state or like outof the country or something,
(08:05):
they'll wear like a mask andthey'll go out by themselves
because they never get to go outby themselves without someone
saying something to them.
or you know, and I'm sure a lotof people who have fans like
they, love their fans and theyappreciate it, but we also love
our alone time you know Morethan anybody does, people in the
public eye especially.
So I thought that was reallycool.
(08:26):
And he's like yeah, nobody evenknows that I do it, I just
we're not famous, but I kind ofwant to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I know we should Actually no.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
People probably think we're like stealing something
if, like, we're out there inmasks.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Our friends are like what are y'all doing?
Yeah, okay, on Tuesdays we wearmasks.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But I mean, those are the lengths that some
celebrities have to go throughand I, I my heart goes out to
them because, yes, like you'retalented, you have all this
money, you have all this talent,you get to do these amazing
things and live this lavish life.
But there, there is still thosemoments where you're like dang.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I do wish I could just go to the grocery store by
myself, like she couldn't meanthink about Taylor Swift, like
she couldn't go to a grocerystore if she wanted to, or like,
yeah, and like you said, it'slike the trade-off and I know,
for me I feel like I could neverbe that level of famous,
because I think I would.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I want to be out in the world and not feel you know
I want to go out to WeHo withyou on the weekends and be and
not like be worried there was atime when I was living in
Orlando and was still at theheight of WWE in Florida.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
especially Orlando is a huge wrestling community that
, like anytime I would go out,people would recognize me.
Of course, there was like atime I was over-served.
It wasn't my fault.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That was such a good term.
She was over-served.
I was over-served at one of thegay bars.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think I was dancing on the bar Of at one of the gay
bars just living.
I think I was dancing on thebar, of course you were.
You know, like any other timewe hang out and then I see this
person bring out their cameraand like, oh my god, kayla
braxton.
And then, like they weren'tdoing it to be mean, yeah, but
then they like want to take apicture of me and what, and I
was like too, like inebriated tosay no.
But then the next day I'm like,oh, I don't like that, like I
really try to keep that part ofmy life very like protected or
like controlled.
(10:01):
I only let people see what Iwant them to see.
As far as my like like lettingloose For sure, because people
won't run with that, and there'salready.
A lot of people on the internetwere like Kayla has a drinking
problem because I'd post a glassof wine a few times a week.
Is it true?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Maybe I don't know, but it's not for you to say I
like having a glass of wineevery night, or two or six
tequila shots on a Saturday, Idon't know, or 60 kilo shots on
a.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Saturday.
I don't know, this is not anintervention episode.
Come back for that, however.
Okay, but I do want to, becausewe have all seen those photos
of Hailey and Justin over theyears.
I mean, like I see why peoplemight assume that he hates her
based on, like, his bodylanguage with her, or like she's
trying to hug him or kiss himand like he seems and we don't
(10:48):
really know what's going onthere, right, but like for me, I
know, like if my, if I'm withmy significant other, I want
them to like be so obsessed withme and like look so proud to be
next to me all the time.
Right, I feel like I wouldsettle for nothing less.
So I do.
I mean, I feel like theredefinitely was some issues in
that relationship.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm sure there were.
I feel like they've been prettyopen about that too.
I remember they did a Vogueinterview, I believe, years ago,
and they were pretty honestabout that.
You know they go to therapytogether.
They they are aware that theirlives are not traditional and
you know Justin was pretty openabout his struggles with mental
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health and Haley was pretty openalso with having to work
through those struggles with him.
It's not easy to work withsomeone with mental issues.
I mean, I struggle with themall the time and my boyfriend
has to sit there and kind oflisten and it happens to me more
often, way more often than ithappens to him.
You know what I mean?
It's just that's just the typeof person I am, and I think I
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don't know.
I feel like they seem prettynormal for not being normal,
yeah, no, true, you know, I hopethat it is, on all in all, a
good relationship for them to bein balance, like plenty of love
, love.
Yeah, there's going to be issuesas long as the love is there,
and I do feel like it's hard tosay when they're outside in the
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public, because it's like, whywould they want to give us PDA?
I know Like that's just theyknow doing that, someone's going
to take a picture, they'regoing to be able to sell it and,
like you said, it's all aboutthe money.
All you want is money, money.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And I get it.
Woman, and as the one in therelationship who's getting like
the brunt of the criticism.
Like he hates her, like I, Ifeel like I felt bad.
So much for her, because that'shard.
You don't want the world tothink that your husband doesn't
like you and that's what I'mlike okay, well, maybe you
should have like put a littlemore effort into showing it,
which not that you needed to,but I think that's just how I
would react, because I don'twant to be like oh, I'm the fool
for staying in thisrelationship and everybody else
can see I mean.
There's no way.
I can't even imagine what itwould be like to be in a high
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profile hollywood relationshiplike I think.
Two people that really got itdown is zendaya and tom holland.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I feel like they're so to themselves unproblematic.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
They love each other.
They you get a little pda hereand there, but like, but not too
much, too much.
They both said when she getspregnant, like they're gonna
quit hollywood and just beparents, like I think they just
got their head on straight withthat.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They seem very, very balanced and loving to each
other and I love sometimes whenthey're walking in and out from
a building or something.
He's so protective over her,but not in a mean way to anybody
, but he will literally hold youback.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Oh yeah, he's gone off on paparazzi for that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And you know, he's smaller than her.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I love that, but he does not care.
That is a short king.
Yeah, he is a short king.
He's a definition of short king, maybe he's not even short.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I just know she's probably really tall.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think he's short and she's like a supermodel.
So it's like you it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Now that we're getting ready for the last
season, we should also do that,and that was like one of the
most brilliantly that really hasdone so well, like even just
from the production side of it,like the film, cinematography is
just beautiful, even ifsomething so shitty is going on.
You're like, wow, it's justbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It looks really beautiful, though you're kind of
stunned by it, you know andjust everyone in.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
There is just an A-list class.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And I love seeing all their careers taking off.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
A-list class.
A-list class.
A-list class.
A-list class.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Not that they're all A-list celebrities, but like an.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
A-list cast.
You're not saying what you wantto say, but I know what you're
trying to say what am I saying?
I know what you're trying tosay.
Well, let me know if you knowwhat I'm trying to say An A plus
cast.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I know what you're trying to say A great cast is
what I was trying to say.
I was just trying to be alittle bit.
You know those are really goodcasts.
I was just trying to be likecool with my words, but
sometimes they don't come outthe way that I want them to.
Well, we cover, and all thecover artwork was just so dope
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too, and yeah, it just shows theevolving of.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Justin Bieber.
So I'm hoping there's new fadesof his life.
It'll be interesting to seewhat artist he is in, like 20
years, like 40 years, and Ithink we're about to get on that
journey with him as he'smaturing with his music.
Oh for sure Someone else whoalso is going through a little
bit of a rebrand musically andmaybe a rebrand in her entire
life.
I'm confused as hell.
I think the internet sharesthat sentiment.
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We're talking about Ms JojoSiwa, who has entered into her
bisexual era.
Welcome.
Never thought you'd be here,but we're happy to have you.
The internet is very divided.
On that retro cover I'm sureyou've all seen it, if you have
the internet or tiktok, uh, thebet davis, uh eyes with a nod to
her boyfriend.
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I want to say that again to herboyfriend not girlfriend her
boyfriend, chris hughes, who Iactually thought maybe was a
little gay, I don't know well, Imean, it would make sense.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean what they?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
call lavender marriages.
They're just.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Maybe they're just bi , maybe they're both bi.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Maybe they're both bi .
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And that works too.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But if you saw it, she traded her signature style
for a 50s bob.
Red lipstick pearls one of theugliest ruffled crop tops I've
ever seen we're gonna do this,do it in a better way.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, it was I.
I still don't know if I have,like I got secondhand
embarrassment, word watching,words to say so cringy.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But I.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I feel like she was trying to vocally sound a little
bit like miley cyrus slash gflip I mean she's obsessed with
g flip, so and it just didn't itto me, it just didn't like hit
that mark for me, but I, I, Icould feel where she was trying
to go, like an ad for don'tsmoke, because that was the
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raspiest, and then not only wasit raspy it was what did again.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
whoa jojo, are you in here?
It also is heavily auto-tuned.
So you have this raspyauto-tune and like anytime it
just I don't know it creeps meout Like listen, she's 22 years
old.
When I was 22, I probably waslike going through and finding
myself.
I think that's the first.
I think it's probably likeearly when I was like messing in
the bisexual world too, but Ididn't come out of being a
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really like butch lesbian togoing it.
Just, this jump is confusingeverybody and I'm all for.
I'm all for finding yourselfright, and it's hard to do this
publicly because I feel like Ishould figure that stuff out
kind of behind closed doors andthen but this is a little
extreme, I feel like there couldhave been a step before this
it's definitely a 180 to who shewas just really strongly being.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know what I mean Like now it's like a she's a
trad wife.
She dressed like a damn trad.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Like, isn't that?
Completely like the?
That's regressive as hell.
All right for the gay community, we're going to, and for a
woman we're going to do thisaesthetic here, right right, it
was a very interesting choice,and I'm actually curious where
she's going to go next.
I mean, what's another Likemetal?
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What's next Metal?
I could see her doing somemetal music.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I could too, honestly .
I mean because she used to havea mohawk, right yeah, Like a
faux hawk and the raspy voicewill sound better in that, but
this just wasn't it for me.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
But I'm going to try not to be a hater.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
No, but at the same time, I do think it's really
hard, like you just said, to bein this limelight and figuring
out what your sexuality is andpeople want to know so bad.
What you're doing, what you'refeeling, what, who are you doing
?
You know what I mean.
Like they want to know so bad.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And she's always extremely open and she is, and I
think that's probably whypeople like hate her, because I
think she's almost too open andwhich is her prerogative, yeah,
um, but like I think that's whypeople get so annoyed by her,
because it's like, oh my god,what is she doing today?
And is it?
And I think people questionlike, is this genuine or is this
just your like performative andtrying to get like a reaction?
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Because, also based on, I reada lot of comments and like
reading the comments, she'sgetting so much hate anything
she does.
She gets hate, even like in hersuper lesbian era with like
that one song where she was likehaving an orgy with a bunch of
girls on the beach or whatever.
Um, she doesn't seem to give ashit and that's one thing I can
admire about her.
I don't think the criticisms orhaters affect her at all and
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she just goes in harder, harderand for that I can respect.
But growing up, what Dance Moms, is that how famous?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I was going to say she was on one of like the
harshest shows.
Honestly, dance Moms likewatching that show now I mean I
grew up in a dance environmentas well, like a dance studio and
stuff, and shout out to all myDance Makers family and yeah,
there was like drama and stuff.
(19:34):
Always there's always going tobe drama, but like it was not
what I saw on Dance Moms, notlike that.
I mean she went through I meanall those girls did, but she
went through a lot on there, youknow, and honestly, like yeah,
I can't hate it.
You know why?
Because her mom was smartenough enough she took what she
did on dance mobs dance mobs.
What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
today that's a new color.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, dance mobs, um, and made an entire brand out of
her daughter and um, that'sreally really cool, and so I
think right now, like you said,we're just watching her figure
out what she likes to do whatshe wants.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean, Miley went through this, she's had this
forever.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, Miley even says when she was on the red carpet,
like when she was always likesticking out her tongue, like
whatever, and she said her momtold her one day you're going to
regret that and she's like,yeah, but like it gets people
talking.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And she admitted that , and maybe Miley taught her
this.
Maybe this is something thatmaybe Jojo she's a mentor to
Jojo and she said it Becauseit's true.
People are talking about it.
Yep, it is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That's why I'm excited to see where she evolves
to next, honestly, becauseright now she's a chameleon.
We don't know what we're goingto get from her.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So I'm not mad at her doing the different vibes of
herself, but I just just give us, give us a couple steps in
between something this drasticbecause I think that you just
ripped the rug out fromunderneath all of us with that
and I'm like I feel like she'strolling us, but I still I don't
know.
And she has every right toexplore this new feminine side,
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because she hasn't really hadthe opportunity, or she just
hasn't gone down that route yetso um, you know what, Jojo, do
you?
But like, hit, hit us up if youneed some fashion tips, because
we got to work on the.
The feminine, the femininestyle, yes.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Or not even feminine.
If you want to dress likeboyish too, we can help with
that as well.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't think she and Chris Hughes are sharing any
clothes right now.
Oh my gosh.
The day they do, though, I knowI know We'll probably know
about it, we'll be talking aboutit.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
We will know about it , yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
All right.
Well, moving on from the musicworld, I'm going to talk a
little bit about the realityworld.
Fiona Shay, fanny Pump Rules,turns out Brock Davies cheated
on her while she was pregnantand she is just now spilling the
beans ahead of the release ofher memoir, memoir um.
She discovered it back in 2023,though, uh, but he cheated in
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2021 during covid and when shewas pregnant, was summer moon,
um, and then he later confessed,handing her a letter, um
detailing the affairs.
First off, he told her about itin a letter.
Bitch, I wish you would, if youwere, if you had the balls
enough to cheat on me while Iwas carrying your seed.
And then you tell me with theletter I don't even my daughter,
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my kid, would not have a father.
No, and she would not know whohe was.
No, and he would no longer beabove six feet.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know, I'm saying like, yeah, and and it is just a
very interesting thing too,because his background in the
beginning of the show when hewas brought on, yeah, is not in
a good light, right, because hehadn't talked to his own.
He hadn't talked to his kids forfour years or something like
that.
He was not allowed to see them,which we still kind of don't
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know.
Oh well, he got into a fist orlike a altercation with his
person at that time, yeah, andwasn't allowed to see his kids.
So he already had like anegative connotation.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, he came into the show.
Everyone already hated him.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So to have him do this, it's not necessarily
surprising, but it is surprisingthat it's coming out right now.
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
If anyone follows Sheena Shay, even she's making
these little appearances on thespinoff show, the Valley.
She's not a cast member, butshe keeps showing up and it's so
funny to watch because she's sohyper aware of the camera.
She wants to be in thelimelight.
So bad.
That is like everything to her.
She needs to be wherever thecamera is, and so it is like
weird, and I do think she has ahabit of making things about her
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.
That's the thing she'll like.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
She turns everything that's not about her to being
about her, even with Scandivalyeah, I mean I, and I also think
that she, like Lisa, alwaystells her I don't feel like I'm
getting the whole truth from youlike tell me actually what's
going to be transparent with me,like I, you know she's like I
want to help you.
If that's the case, you know so.
I.
It's not surprising that shedidn't talk about it on the show
(23:54):
.
Well see.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I am surprised because I feel like she would
have used that to catapult herlike an Ariana moment or a
Brittany moment.
Cause now Brittany, with allthe fallout with uh, with Jax
Taylor, like I think she's evenshe's probably a little in like
Lala Kent, I think was a littlebitter that she didn't get the
Ariana treatment with theRandall thing Right.
These girls liked oh, I was thescorn or I was the one done
wrong in my relationship.
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Now hand me a Love Island hostcontract, Right, Give me a
Dancing with the Stars contract.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And they did Give me a batteries contract.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You know she got that huge-.
Oh yeah, I know that huge dealwith the battery company after
this girl.
Oh then Tom was like I don'tknow, you don't buy batteries,
so I'm going to go fuck yourbest friend.
You know, this seems like anequal.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
you know, tit for tat , I feel like we're even now,
you know.
But, also to have a, because headmitted that he had a separate
phone right, that it wentthrough like a who Brock, he had
like a separate phone, I think,or something like that, right,
but that he had like a separatephone, I think, or something
like that, right?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But that he was like texting others yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And that just sounds like so much work.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Cheating just seems really difficult, like I feel
like for me.
I don't even like having oneperson honestly like and next
week I'm going to get more intothis I'm going to have I have
some personal news that I'llshare next week about me and my
relationships, but it was alovely relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I typically don't like them and I can imagine
having to juggle more than oneperson's feelings and then
having to keep my story straightand having to make two people
feel special and wanted, likethat is so much work, I had a
friend who I knew was beingunfaithful to a partner and I
just remember, kept telling herthat I'm so worried about your
karma, because how do you goback and be with your person,
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how do you like, and just lookthem in the eye and I love you
nothing is going on diabolical.
I couldn't, my anxiety, I wouldliterally have a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I will be, because also you can't like we don't
like lying and we're not good atit and I don't want to lie Like
that's just again.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Like my brain can only hold so much information
here.
Like I wish I could hold more,but again like it's too much.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
There's been a time or two I've like wanted to lie.
I'm like preparing it in myhead Okay, lie, lie, lie, Just
deny, deny, deny, lie, lie, lie.
They ask a question.
I'm like truth, Like.
I just can't do it Because I'mlike I think it's just going to
be better in the end if I justcan get it out instead of
holding on to it.
(26:25):
It's always going to be betterin the end if you tell your
truth and speak your truth.
But I am curious, though, aboutthe Sheena thing, because I
don't buy.
I just I don't feel like that'sher personality.
I feel like she would haveimmediately been the one that's
like.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
So I, I want to but I I think she's also very
protective of her energy and herrelationships.
She's always been like that.
I mean even her ex-husband, youknow.
No one knew that he had a drugaddiction, um, until until it
came out, it came out you knowlike, and was very, very
protective about that.
We know that she knew.
Yeah, I mean she didn't knowthe whole time, but when she did
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find out I guarantee it wasn'tnot everybody knew right when
she found out.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But I don't think it's to protect him.
I don't think it's to protectthem.
I think she cares very muchabout what people think about
her.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
For sure, but you are right.
At the end of the day, she isjust about protecting herself.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
She is, she is Okay, but I want to like breaking it
down real quick.
Also, when she found out shethrew a Rubik's cube at him.
Just thought that was a littlefunny.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I wonder if it was like already done.
Who's like?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
oh yeah, was, oh yeah .
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Was it already done in the?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
shoe through, or was it still like all jumbled up?
It was already done and then itgot jumbled up, I'd be like.
That'd be a good like.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
fuck you, Because if it's jumbled up, that's going to
really hurt Because you knowit's all like twisted, but if
it's actually all done it's justa square.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
There's corners on a square, vanessa, I know.
But so he said he was scared offatherhood so he picked sex
with a side piece over hispregnant wife.
So do we call that being acoward?
Is that a criminal offense?
Like I think that's just,that's just.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I think that's just a bullshit answer for saying I
don't want to be a father, soI'm gonna go cheat on you?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What Also you're?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
already a father.
Yeah, I was going to say firstof all, you're already a father.
So that statement actuallydoesn't even make sense.
It doesn't Scared of fatherhood.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You mean like not absentee fatherhood which we
already used to.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, because actually he was an absent father
so for at least four years.
We know that.
So it's like he's feeling whichis so messed up.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You would think he would go overdrive and try to be
the best His kids probablywatched.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I'm sure they're old enough now to know that he's on
this show called the AntipodeRules and that everyone knows
that he was not around for fouryears and that he punched his
mom or his baby mama wifewhatever they were at the time,
I'm not sure, but I'm like dang,if that was my dad I would be
so I know I would be so sad.
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I would just like, because thatwould make me really think I
was just such an unwanted person.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This also makes me call bullshit on, like all of
him being so emotional wheneveryone found out like I love
my kids, ok, but then what didyou just do?
You have your unborn child andthen you cheat on its mother,
like make it make sense.
How are you so remorseful aboutlike I call bullshit, I don't
like the guy.
I don't know, I don't think Iwould like the guy.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Also, it's like talk about like generational trauma,
like how traumatic are you?
How messed up is it that yourwife is pregnant, super
connected, obviously physically,with this child, and you giving
her all of this heaviness andweight is also giving it to your
unborn child.
They know, you know what I mean.
Like we are connected fromgenerations before this
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generation and unfortunately itjust sucks Like I hate that this
is such an innocent personbeing Not even getting a chance
to come into like a normalfamily because, now, this kid's
going to know about thisobviously.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And then it's going to know about this obviously.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And then it's going to be and people don't think
about these kids going to schooland getting bullied.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
She's going to read the book eventually.
Yeah, it's sad.
Do you think if this happens,if you were pregnant and he
cheats on you while you'repregnant, is there a world where
you could forgive that?
Like what do you think youwould do?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Absolutely not.
No, do you think you would do?
Absolutely not.
No, I I know we've talked aboutthis before just cutting you.
You're really good at cuttingfriendships off.
I am really good at if I'm done, done in a relationship, it's
done.
Yeah, like and, and I justthink infidelity like that, it's
calculated yeah.
(30:28):
Like you intentionally had tocurate or curate, carve out time
to go do this and leave yourpregnant wife who I'm sure could
use you, just literally sittingon the couch next to her with
your hand on her belly, not eventalking, just chilling watching
TV.
But instead you decided toleave her and go be with
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somebody else.
Like that is just.
That's really hard to wrap mymind around.
I mean sure, not sure, but sure, cheat on somebody when they're
not pregnant is still messed up.
But like to be pregnant and youknow that the baby feels
everything that the mom is goingthrough, that is just like
beyond, I know and she didn'tbeing as emotional as she is I
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don't even know how she.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't know how she stayed, other than just for I
think she has always wanted afamily, so bad but, she, you
could, you saw how she was withher last husband her husband and
like she just loves, loves somuch and that's all she wants.
And I do feel really bad forher because I can't imagine what
like the like um, like the p,the PTSD or postpartum was like
because of that even more.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
And now she has to live the rest.
If you know, if they decide tostay together forever, I don't
know.
I feel like I would have tocheck somebody's phone all the
time.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I would have to look at their DMs?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I would have to.
Are you actually going to thegrocery store or?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
like, are you?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I don't know, like I just feel like I would spiral,
my brain would just spiral and Iwould just have thoughts all
the time.
And so I think it would beeasier for me to just be like
you know what, let's justco-parent, you do you, I'll do
me, and like, for the sake ofour child, we will be fine when
we're all together.
As a quote, unquote family.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well, brock you better get your shit together,
because if you have two separatesets of kids now that you are
not involved in their livesbecause of decisions that you've
made, yeah, this is like amoment.
You take a deep look intoyourself and this happened many
years ago.
So they seem to be doing finenow.
So hopefully this was a onetime thing.
But when it comes to cheating,obviously it's non-negotiable,
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it's done like you said.
But what is worse?
Do you think emotional cheatingor physical cheating?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I honestly think emotional for me it would hit
harder.
Because physical to me is like,okay, well, you just need to
like get your dick hard forsomething or whatever.
Probably it's just like amental thing, like some guys
wake up with like hard ons inthe morning out of nowhere you
(33:09):
know what I mean.
It's like that.
That's just like a physical,like you climax, you're done.
But an emotional connection iswe're talking about a lot of
different things.
I'm letting you into a part ofmy portal that that I don't let
everybody in.
You know, what I mean.
So I I don't know.
For me, emotional cheating is Iwould.
(33:30):
That makes me question moreabout like myself, like how come
you didn't feel like you couldcome and be open with me, but
you can be open with this likestranger, where I just think
like sometimes sex is sex.
You know what I mean, and Ihate to say that, but it's like,
yeah, some people can just dothat.
It's like, oh, I just got off,but I don't really care about
them.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, that's what's funny.
A lot of times you hear it likein movies and people say in
real life, when the the girl'scrying because she just found
out her partner cheated on herand the first question is always
do you love her as in, likethey're ready to forgive and put
it behind them.
If the answer is no, yep andit's.
I think it is a weird thingsociety has done.
Though, when it comes to likegender roles, like I think a lot
(34:09):
of times men get kind of theyget.
They get off easily, no punintended, yeah but, I feel like
no they'll cheat and thenthey'll get forgiven.
And then it's like maybethey'll cheat again and get
forgiven again, whereas I think,and then women, I I even have
some really like, uh, likehard-ass people growing up who
(34:31):
would probably be like, well,well, if your husband cheated on
you, you need to just figure itout for the family.
As a woman Like you're justexpected to, just like men can't
help it, like you said and whatdid you do, men, just get horny
and they have to go have sexLike they can't help it, so you
have to forgive them.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Rolled reverse, we'd be called a whore and a witch
and hung in town square.
Absolutely, you know,absolutely.
Do you think it was in the bestinterest for Sheena to not say
anything for two years?
And, you know, bypass all theBravo fires that she would have
gotten about announcing that onthe show?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't know, I think it's a weird, I think it's a
calculated move, because it'slike why?
Now?
I mean I know why, it's becausethe memoir for sure but I still
can't figure out, knowing whatwe know of sheena, why she
wouldn't have brought it up backthen, because it just that's
not, that's out of her character.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
If she'd be the one that's like, well, I'm going
through this too, yeah, and thenmake everything about her,
because what she's known do, andmaybe she just grew a little
bit right and didn't want tobring it on the show because of
the scandal of all stuff thatwas happening and because of
Lala's situation and like Idon't know.
Maybe she was just like youknow what.
I'm going to let them live thisout on this season and I'm just
(35:46):
not even going to bring it up.
I mean, I don't know, I wouldlike to think that people grow
and, you know, change and takeaccountability for their actions
.
But who am I?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I think Josh does her hair, so I'm going to ask Josh
to like get all these answersout of her, josh, we need to
know.
Or just bring Sheena.
Well, that'll be a guess, we'lljust bring.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Sheena on to tell.
We'll just bring Sheena on theshow.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Okay, from reality TV now to one of the better shows
that have come out lately thatwe were talking about.
Yes, we've got to talk aboutthe studio Seth Rogen.
Love the guy so great.
Also, like we've seen SethRogen for the last 20 years on
our TV, this is the first time.
I was kind of like daddy.
Yeah, you know something aboutthis salt and pepper.
(36:30):
Like older Seth and Rogan, I'mkind of into.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
You know, what's so annoying Is that guys just get
like hotter over the yearswithout doing any skincare to
their face or like dyeing theirhair.
Meanwhile we have to have likeBotox and like filler and like
get our hair done.
And oh, also, mariah hair, justdid my hair today your hair is
(36:53):
so cute.
Yes, at Mariah hair.
She did it.
Why don't you do my hair?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I know we're, we gotta, we gotta go to her.
This is not fair.
We cannot be coming in here onthis show.
Vanessa's walking in on.
She's just walking into thevilla on love Island looking all
glam and then I look like this.
This is not fair.
This is unequal.
I will not stand for it anymore.
That's me laying on businessLaying on business.
Next we're going to have tohave at least one episode a
(37:20):
month where we both go seeMariah and come to the and so
you guys can see the styles thatshe does for us.
Okay, yes, but okay, yeah.
So you, what did you love mostabout the studio?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Like what, what you love most about the studio?
Like what, what did it do foryou?
I just loved how honest andtransparent it was to viewers of
what it actually is like behindthe scenes of a set, and not
even just a set like behind thescenes, like the production of
it all.
I mean the amount of times thatI've seen people walk on set
and you could just feel theenergy change in the room.
It's so insane.
And Matt Seth Rogen's characteranytime he walks into a room,
(38:03):
like when they're shooting orwhen there's something there,
you could just feel everyone'sjust like, oh shit.
Well, so those who don't knowthe show.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Seth Rogen's character, matt, plays a studio
head here in hollywood and so hejust got the job in episode one
and it just shows him likedetailing the life of a studio
exec.
It is funny on that, like thatone episode at the house.
At the house everyone justclenches up their assholes
because the studio exec is theremaking all these changes.
You can't say no, you gotta dowhat he says, even if it like
you lose your sunset shot.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yep and the sun is setting like that, you can't
stop the sun settings.
And and then also it's supposedto be this one elaborate, long,
beautiful take and he justkeeps ruining it.
He's ruining it to the pointwhere it's like everyone just
wants to kill him.
Uh, catherine O'Hara oh my godphenomenal.
(38:52):
I mean everyone in it is justphenomenal like and and the way
that everyone's uh at differentenergy you know you got the
execs, who are like, you know,like the white girl who, like,
tries to act a little more urbanshe's wearing all her Louis.
Vuitton and like the Prada she'sjust like head to toe in
designer outfits and stuff andlike she's the cool girl Loud
(39:15):
mouth and crude and there'salways these characters exist,
like they really pulled thesecharacters from real life.
Yeah, and it's so fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
It is fun.
It's just a different world.
But even like the issues thatthey touched on, one of the main
plots of the entire show was uh, they're making a kool-aid
movie.
They had to make this kool-aidmovie, which was just a
ridiculous.
I don't know where they pulledthat out of, but also I was kind
of like I'd watch that yeahespecially if you know well
they're.
So they cast ice cube askool-aid and they were set on
(39:49):
this whole situation.
It was a go.
Then they started building thisfamily and the cast around it,
and then they're sitting thereand like the drawing board and
they're like, oh no, we can'tmake.
We can't make Ice Cube black,that's racist.
And so the whole episode isjust going down this rabbit hole
of what to do in order to makesure that this movie doesn't
offend anybody.
I'm like that's so on point,like even working in
(40:12):
entertainment, like the whole,like diversity, you know hires
and making sure that you'rebeing diverse without being
obviously diverse.
And so then it becomes aformative and it's like are you,
do you really care about theseissues, or you just care about
what people think about theissues?
It was so fun to watch them,like it's so fun.
Honestly, I was like you knowone movie that I'll never forget
, honestly I was, like you know,one movie that I'll never
(40:35):
forget uh cinderella, with uhbrady brandy.
Brandy, not brady, oh my gosh,you guys, it's.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
It's been a long week okay um brandy who plays
cinderella, and that whole castis so just random, like she has
a a black mom and a a white dad,and then there's an Asian
prince and it's like it's just.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
they were just like fuck it Melting pot go, and that
was the most and I loved it.
I loved that and it's justfunny to like see them cast
trying to make the cast rightand then they're like, oh well,
now everyone's black we can'thave everyone black, and that's
what I would love to have beenlike in the war room for the
Cinderella remake and like whatthey thought about that too, or
how, maybe how it like startedinto what it turned out Because
(41:15):
you know there were millions ofconversations saying are you
sure?
Well, having a black littlemermaid.
People are still pissed offabout that.
Yeah, it just keeps.
Or yeah, rachel Ziegler, notbeing white enough for Snow
White Right.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, never ending battle.
So you mentioned earlier ascene that happened.
That probably happens more thannot.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yes, there is a scene where they are going to
CinemaCon and it's a big, bigevent for them.
And Seth Rogen's character,Matt, is like we're going to
have an old Hollywood party thenight before, because he wants
(41:57):
everyone just to get to knoweach other better and feel good
and unfortunately, he basicallydrugs everyone.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Well, it's the Hollywood buffet, as they called
it, which I'm like.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I think that sounds like a great time they have all
the party favors, but the onethat makes the biggest splash in
the episode is mushroomchocolate and Zoe Kravitz's
character just goes in on thechocolates because they're just
so great and they're so good,not knowing what they were.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
In the midst of eating the the fifth chocolate,
she finds out that they arelaced with mushrooms and she's
supposed to be giving this bigspeech at the convention, so
this is a problem.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yes, um and she played.
I mean, we, we both hadmushroom journeys before and um,
so I I know how it candifferentiate for everybody, but
she played that off.
Oh my gosh, it was just so good.
Just everything about her.
I just love her.
I know she's just so great andwhenever she's in something I'm
(43:04):
like I'm watching it.
I know I'm watching it.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
But it was I know, and they're all just on a
mushroom just trying to getthrough it.
Everything ended up turning outrelatively fine.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
No, everything turned out like maybe we should all
like do mushrooms before we havelike a big right.
You know, next time we filmwe'll do some mushrooms and see
how it turns out.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I guess, um something else was funny and that there's
so many.
There were so many good momentsin that show I was.
I loved that um at the awardshow and matt was just so
desperate to get like a shoutout by zoe kravitz to the point
he's like back there trying tochange a teleprompter before her
speech.
Make sure he gets a thank you.
Um, just freaking.
And then sal uh, who was likehis under um it's, it's like his
(43:48):
assist or not?
Speaker 1 (43:50):
his assistant, but it's like a partner of his and
what's it?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I don't know why I'm blanking on his real name.
Everything he does, I love isso hilarious um, but the the
whole joke of the whole episodewas that entire night, as hard
as matt matt was trying to get ashout out, sal became.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
He became a meme of the awards, to the point where
they started writing him in theteleprompter and people after
their speeches would be like andwe love Sal.
Like it was just so funny.
What is his real name?
I know this is bothering me,Ike.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Barinholtz Ike, Ike Barinholtz Look.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I should knowthat I feel like Ike Barinholtz.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I should knowthat I feel like I've watched so
much stuff with him in it.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Oh yeah, he's been around forever.
He's so good, so funny and it'sjust so interesting because I
get it.
Look, even on Instagramwhenever you have a project, a
creative project, everyonedeserves their flowers, everyone
deserves to be tagged in therole that they played in that
(44:54):
project.
And you know, for dancersspecifically, you know, a lot of
times they don't get theirflowers and a lot of artists who
really appreciate and lovetheir dancers have started to
literally tag them even in thecaption when it comes to a music
video or a performance, and itdoes make a difference.
It does, and so I understandwhy he wanted to.
(45:15):
You know, he just got promotedin the season.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
So having his name?
That's how it started.
Yeah, so it makes sense thathe'd want like credit.
Yes, it does go a long way.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
It does.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And you're the one who put all of this like legwork
into her project.
To like not even getting alittle like thank you, and then
all the top of the top people inHollywood are in that room.
I get it.
I'd be the same way Exactly.
I'd have my feelings hurt, ohand also the end of it.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
she does thank him, but the mic cuts out, the mic
cuts out and everyone's cheeringand screaming for her and he's
just like I think it was his momwho calls him and she's like,
well, she didn't say your name.
And he's like God.
She did, though she did, didn'tyou see her mouth in?
It's like her mouth is righthere, so like you can't even see
(46:01):
that she's mouthing his name,she just like ADR'd it and then
put it out.
Oh my gosh Poor guy.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Great guy, great show .
Great show.
Definitely, if you like, arecurious about what happens in
hollywood and studio execs andlike, even like scorsese, and
like him burying his project,the jonestown movie, which is
about the infamous jonestownmassacre, massacre, with, you
know, the drink, the kool-aid.
So then matt's trying to liketurn his kool-aid movie into
like, somehow find out where todo both, but then instead it's
what is show.
It was Scorsese's last movieever and this was meant
everything to him and he wasovercome with emotion that he
was going to finally get hismovie bought by the studio, only
(46:37):
for them to kill it so that itcouldn't be made.
Yep, like, I bet that happens.
I even hear agent or maybe youtold me or somebody told me will
sign you to make sure that youdon't work so it doesn't affect
another one of their clients.
You're too close with like, tooclose and like.
Oh, I, yes, I did it.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
This is a mess up.
I haven't had that happen to me.
I don't not that I know of, butI.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
That's insane and does it keep you buried?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
definitely happen, yeah it's just like uh, like uh
artists.
You know what I mean.
They get signed to an agencyand they shelf them yeah, you
know, and then they can't doanything because you signed a
contract.
So it's really difficult, butthis show was just the perfect
depiction of what it what goeson.
I mean, there's just so manylayers to it too.
It's like even, like you know,scorsese asking his lead actor
(47:23):
in the film like what he thinksabout the film.
And oh, no one was.
He's like oh, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
And then, like he turns around, he's like you need
to help me.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
You need to say something.
And he's like wait, no, I'm notsaying anything.
Like you say something.
Like they're like he could, hecould end my career.
Like I'm just the lead actorhe's Martin Scorsese.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
You know what I mean?
It's just top studio execs arenot the head honcho, nope.
So, they have plenty of peopleto answer to anyway.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
All right.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Well, wow, that went by so quickly.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Well, we are going to introduce for the first time
the honey jar.
I'm so excited to bring her out.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
It's not an actual honey jar.
We can probably do better thanthis moving forward.
But actually what was in thisjar?
I think a friend got this forme.
It than this moving forward,but actually what was in this
jar?
I think a friend got this forme and it was full of like
affirmations and I was like thatlooks like an affirmation jar,
so I took all the affirmationsand threw them in a trash can,
and then I made up my ownquestions.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
So I don't need them.
Oh, Kayla, Kayla, Kayla.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
All right you want to go first.
Sure, I actually don't rememberwhat any of these are, so, and
I feel like we made this onetime ago.
We did, and if it's a stupidquestion, you don't have to do
it.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Okay, what's your villain origin story?
One sentence only, oh.
I was high drunk when I wrotethese, I'm like this is a really
intense question.
What's your villain originstory?
And I can't read.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
What's your?
Speaker 1 (48:52):
villain origin story and I can't read what's in your
cup.
It's actually just watermelonjuice today.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
It's not even alcohol , maybe we need to put the
alcohol dot in there?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I think so we need to start having like champagne
again before we end our episodes.
So you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
one word, that's hard .
Speaker 1 (49:08):
One sentence, only, oh, one sentence.
Oh my gosh, I don't word.
That's hard.
One sentence only, oh, onesentence.
Oh my gosh, I don't know what'syours, what is my villain?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Born.
I was born in a prison, givenaway.
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
That's a pretty good orange answer.
I don't think I can beat that.
I was born and life happenedand here we are.
That wasn't a good one.
(49:50):
That was not a good one.
We're just going to cut thatone out.
We're just going to let Kaylahave her.
No, we're going to keep thatone in there.
Actually, that is a hard one.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah like Do you want a different?
Speaker 1 (49:58):
one Bullied into, I was bullied into this life,
bullied into this life and Iturned into a villain.
Yes, okay, you pick this one,let's see we need to go take.
I need to go take like animprov class.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
What's your go-to lie when you're trying to get out
of plans?
You know it's funny.
I've actually gotten reallygood about just saying I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Same.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
But for a long time I wouldn't make up lies and
normally I've like blamed my guyfriends.
I don't hang out and I sayperiod.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
They're like okay, of course, yeah, um and then women
just get it, they just get itexactly um, yeah, typically it's
something to do with my, withmy health.
I, I, if, if I say anything,it's probably just I already
have plans even if I don't.
I mean my plan is to sit on thecouch with my cat, so
technically yeah, I already dohave a plan, it's just not with
(50:53):
you, with you, and you know.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
There's nothing better.
And I'll tell you this as myfriend I typically get so
excited if the other personcancels the plans because I've
already wanted to be out of them.
I'm never the friend that'slike oh my God, why would you
cancel?
Because we have friends.
If you cancel on me, I'm likeyou just got more points, so I
love it.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
It is so funny.
Like have you been a personWell, actually, no, you just
said it.
But like, so, I'm not a personthat gets upset when people
cancel.
Even if it's like I swear toyou, even if it's like 20
minutes before I have to leavethe house and I'm already ready,
I'm like it's okay.
Yeah, you know, but I, you know, but I know a lot of people who
, yeah, get really upset aboutthat.
(51:30):
I'm like no, because at the endof the day, you're canceling
and that just means I get tostay home now, exactly.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Unless it's like my birthday or something like that,
of course, so that'd be onething, but if it's just like
another random night, a randombrunch or random, going to a bar
and our friends are so busy tothe point where it's like we
have to cancel plans all thetime anyway.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Like, even if we like book a job randomly, it's like,
oh, can't do it then because Ilearned that I'm booked on a job
yesterday.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, for sure there's just so many things that
go into it.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm going to do one more each.
Yes, oh, did you hear that onmy elbow?
Okay, let's see here.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Hot take.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Overrated hot take overrated celebrity, go
overrated celebrity, overratedcelebrity.
Oh, that's just so many of them.
Jojo siwa, I don't know.
I don't know if she'sconsidered overrated, I don't
think she's overrated.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Maybe I don't even think she's rated.
You know what I mean.
She's, she's, all, she's allover the place she's not even
rated yet.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Overrated celebrity.
Oh, if I say that, I can't sayI have one, but I shouldn't say
it.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
I don't know, I'm going to sip my water.
I was going to say this is notsip or spill, vanessa.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
You know, I think it's all like subjective too,
right?
Not really, I guess that'sprobably not.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I'll say JLo, I wouldn't.
I would not agree with you inthe past.
But I do think presently.
Yes, I do.
I think I think we got to.
You know, she has so manybeautiful things that go on in
her life and like collaborationsand brand deals and all this
stuff, and it's like I justdon't think you need to perform
anymore.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Well, it's okay to go away and disappear for a while
and then come back in like fiveyears with like some banging new
material, but she's so overlyexposed and she keeps herself in
limelight even amidst all ofher scandal, like go away, for
so people wouldn't like forgetwhy they don't like you.
Right, because right, whichsucks, because she's been
performing for decades anddecades and has been one of the
(53:31):
number one artists of all timeand celebrities of all time and
she's always going to be JLo,obviously, but it's like when
you start to do the things thatshe's doing now, presently, it
sort of diminishes youriconicness.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
She is an icon and she for always.
Yeah, she will always be anicon, but right now I do feel
like it's like let us miss you.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
It's like when you're around a significant other too
much and you get sick of thembecause they're always there,
like go away and let me miss you.
Yes, exactly, all right, we'lldo one more.
Okay, pick one.
Rich and hated or broke andbeloved.
Okay, pick one.
Rich and hated or broke andbeloved.
Rich and hated.
Rich and hated.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Hate me all you want.
Because you are not in my bankaccount.
I will wipe my tears with myhundreds.
I will wipe my tears, wipe myass with my pillowcase with all
the cash.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I will be just fine.
Hate me and pay me.
People already hate me and I'llalready hate you.
So which, by the way, we'rebasically just like kind of
contradicting what we said aboutJLo, because she's got all the
money and she's hated.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
So she's actually doing exactly what we would do
Touche, touche, jlo.
Sorry, we take it back, youknow what You're doing exactly
what.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Okay, we just backtracked on everything, so,
but this is what accountabilityis called.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
We grew so much in 20 seconds.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yep, yep yep, that's what she said, that's what he
said, I don't know anyway.
Uh, that's it for this week'sepisode.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
That was fun that was so fun.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
I love that we're gonna bring this back we are for
weeks to come yes uh, let usknow your opinions on any of the
topics we talked about.
Whether it be the beebs jojo,let us know if you watch any of
the topics we talked about.
Whether it be the Biebs JoJo,let us know if you watch the
studio.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, so, oh, remember, we are serving the
best tea in West Hollywood withyour favorite ingredients.
Was that good?
That was good, okay, good, seeyou guys next week.
Bye.
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