August 20, 2025 • 54 mins
Remember when the worst thing about going back to school was getting your lunch money stolen and not the fear of your embarrassing moment going viral? Vanessa and Kayla certainly do.
In this nostalgic episode, we're diving into our drastically different educational backgrounds - from Vanessa's strict Catholic school experience complete with nuns checking skirt lengths to Kayla's journey through multiple schools as a foster child navigating racial identity. We share how these formative years shaped who we are today, from developing code-switching abilities to overcoming the infamous "Catholic guilt."
The playground was our battlefield where Red Rover selections determined your social standing and dodgeball left both physical and emotional scars. We're talking about the real, face-to-face bullying of the 90s versus today's relentless cyberbullying - debating which generation had it worse while acknowledging each had unique challenges.
You'll laugh as we recount our detention stories (or "ASS" - After School Suspension, as Kayla's school called it), passing handwritten notes in class, and playing MASH to predict our futures. There's even a surprise Christian rap performance from Kayla that you absolutely won't want to miss!
For anyone who grew up in the 90s or early 2000s, this episode will transport you back to a simpler time before iPads replaced textbooks and when showing your personality meant colorful socks under your uniform. And for today's students? Consider this your anthropological study of how your parents survived school without smartphones.
Share your own school memories with us on social media @milkandhoneypod and let us know: would you rather face the physical bullies of yesteryear or navigate today's digital minefield?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome back everyone to Milk and Honey's episode 16.
We should have had 16 candlesup in here.
We should have, I know.
But you know what?
You know who has 16 candles?
Typically our high schoolstudents, and we haven't been
one of those in a long time, andwe're about to get to it's
mid-August, back to school, sowe're going to be telling you a
lot of our school stories, butbeforehand, I'm Kayla Becker and
(00:29):
this is, and I am Vanessa Curry, yes, so, wow, we, I think,
have learned a lot about eachother, about our school days.
Yes, the playground where Ispent most of my days Are we
going to start singing FreshPrince right now, rapping.
Yes, favorite show ever.
Oh yes, it's mid-August already.
(00:49):
I still have school-agesiblings.
I know you have a niece who'slike nine years old, yes, so
everyone's getting ready to goback to school, which?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
when I was growing up .
That was the most dreaded timefor me, Same.
The only thing I honestly likedabout going back to school was
getting new clothes.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, yeah, no, offense school.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I love, I mean I.
School is great.
All the offense, we hated youschool but I did not.
I was not a fan of school.
I mean what?
I mean there are plenty kids.
I mean my niece is a fan ofschool, she loves that, and so
I'm like good for you and we'regonna get to.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Maybe the wise behind that for sure but, like listen,
we were in elementary schooland it was an entirely different
world.
Kids these days had no ideawhat it was like growing up in
school in the 90s and the early2000s and the mid 2000s.
Like you know, today's studentsare doing homework on iPads.
No one's getting scoliosis fromcarrying heavy book bags
anymore.
(01:44):
You know, I know you're dealingwith cyberbullying nowadays.
Thank God we didn't, but wedealt with like actual bullies.
Like you know, you watch theold school movies like Mean
Girls and you know 16 Can or 13.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, have you ever seen that movie Like 13 going on
30?
No, 13.
The movie 13.
If you have not watched it, youneed to go watch it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But like, bullying is like.
Yes, and that's the thing wewere bullied, like our lunch
money actually got stolen.
I got pushed against thelockers, there were fights in
the playground and that was youknow.
That was what it was like backthen, at least for me.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, oh yeah.
No, I got into my fair share ofsituations we played dodgeball
oh and then red rover, red rover, like do they still play that
game?
Talk about we are jumping intothis.
Yeah, quicker than I thoughtyou want to talk about the game
we played on the playground.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That messed all of us up as adults and having
identity crises and dealing withnot being wanted.
Why am I dismissive of one?
I don't know.
That was the last motherfuckingperson that they chose on red
Rover.
Red Rover, red Rover, let Kaylacome over.
Never heard that.
It was like oh, game over.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Game over Red Rover and Kayla's still standing there
.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'm still here, and that's what I want you all to
know.
I'm still here, I'm still here.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's a hot start.
Yeah, obviously we are verytriggered.
We're gonna take a deep breath,just one.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, I'm going to take a sip of my water.
Yes, so that's what's in thiscup?
It's water.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Ice water, okay, oh, so refreshing Back down.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, let's talk about you.
We had very different schoolupbringings.
You were and boys get your mindout of the gutter.
She was a little catholicschool girl yes, I sure was, I
sure was everything.
Oh yeah, that's soinappropriate.
No, are you joking?
I would get in trouble for didyou double roll?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
yes, I would triple roll my skirt and then when we
got, checked you know, by ourteachers or yeah, like by our
teachers or the nuns, like it'dhave to be like a finger, your,
your middle finger.
It'd have to be like thatlength.
Then we'd all roll them down.
But yes, of course, I rolled myskirt like three times so that
(03:56):
when I would bend over you'd seemy shorts of course, obviously
I wore shorts a little, uh like,yeah, yeah, little like booty
shorts yeah, isn't it funny likeand I want to get into this
thing, but isn't it funny nowLike kids go to school in crop
tops?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I feel like dress codes are kind of like out there
.
I mean you went to a Catholicschool, but the public school
system was just as strict, atleast the one I went to.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And it's funny.
Now I see like my little niecego out.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm like yeah, oh, I mean prom.
I I see I see like girls goingto prom and I I mean I love
their fits.
But I'm also questioning wouldhave been allowed how are we
allowing people to wear?
some of these things and a slitup to your hoo-ha.
Yeah, and like girls these days, I mean, I swear like when we
were 18, 17, 18 like nobody,even if we had cleavage which
(04:48):
neither one of us did but it'slike even if we had cleavage, we
weren't allowed to show it,like there was definitely
guidelines of what we wereallowed to wear and now I feel
like it's kind of a free-for-alland I'm like good for them, I
love that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But there's these girls on tikt TikTok who are
like flaunting their promdresses.
I'm assuming it's like acollege formal or something
based on the way they're dressed, uh-huh.
All right, well, okay, so youtalk about what it was like.
I don't really have.
I went to like one Catholicmass my entire life with my
friend and it was the moststressful thing I've ever done,
with all the standing andsitting and, like you know but
like I don't think I have anyfriends that I can talk to that
(05:23):
went to like a Catholic schooltaught by nuns.
What was that like?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It was well.
Here's the thing.
It was normal at the timebecause I started going to a
Catholic school in kindergarten.
So, I grew up with nuns beingeither the principal or some of
the teachers or, you know, inoffice staff, either the
principal or some of theteachers or, you know, in office
staff.
But now when I look back on it,I realize a lot of things were
(05:52):
very interesting.
You know, like I had a teacherwho happened to be a nun and was
teaching sex education, whichwas definitely interesting From
a nun.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I would like keep my eyes down to the floor.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
The entire time.
Yes, it was so interesting.
Now, as an adult, I'm like wait, how are you teaching us sex
education?
I mean some nuns have had.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think they can have sex and then they give up sex
at some point.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Or most nuns are like I thought you're not allowed to
have sexual relations as a nunor a priest, yeah sexual
relations as a nun or a priest?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, but I think once you turn into one, so maybe
they had a little experiencewith it before.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know, maybe I mean it depends, yeah, it
depends.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I guess Any nuns out there let us know, do you get
your cherry popped or not?
Where do they?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Oh my sister's going to love this episode Because my
sister went to a Catholic schooltoo.
Oh my gosh.
But no one of my like fondestmemories actually was in sex ed
with a nun I won't say her namebecause I think she might still
be teaching at the school that Iwent to um, but everyone was
(07:02):
sitting there and she's talkingabout sex and why it's bad right
now and you should wait until x, y and z and.
But then at the end of it shesays to us but if you are going
to do this, go to walmart andthey have a blue light special
and use protection.
(07:23):
I love that, that's great adviceand till this day, I'm like
wait, you were telling us not tohave sex, but then telling us
to go to Walmart because there'sa blue light.
What's a blue light special?
It's a condom.
Is it called a blue?
It's blue light condom, Like ablue light.
But it was a blue light specialon condoms.
I don't know about.
None of us did.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
We were like what the heck is that Are they still
around, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We should go to sponsor us Blue Light Condoms
please sponsor Milk and Honeys.
But it was just very confusingVery confusing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Did you feel like again all I know from
non-Catholic schools likeImmaculate, a movie you'll never
watch?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
a city.
Sweeney horror movie.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, no.
Is that?
Nuns are like hard asses andthey're mean and like very
strict.
Was that like how it was?
Like did they bring the law?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
down a lot, most of them.
Yes, I did have this oneprincipal, though, and she
actually was amazing, like hername was Sister John Ellen, and
she's still around, and I thinkI don't know if she still works
(08:33):
at the school that I went to,but she is still around and she
actually was so sweet and, youknow, would come in and do
classes, in a sense of teachingus how to like use our fork
properly.
You know what I mean Etiquetteclasses how to like eat, use our
fork properly.
You know what I mean, etiquetteclasses.
And, um, there was one timewhere, long story short, uh, we
were in class and this girlthrew a hot glue gun because we
(08:54):
had to like finish up ourproject.
So I asked her for it and soshe threw it at me.
I don't till this day, I don'tknow why, um, and it went into
my eye and so the glue likehardened on my eye and sister
john ellen took me to the er,like she did not wait for
anything she saw my eyes, shetook me to the er, called my mom
.
My mom left work, came but youknow she made sure to rush me to
(09:16):
the hospital to make sure likeI was okay and um, and I just
remember like sitting in her car, which is so crazy because it's
like at the time, like do nunsdrive, you know, but they do,
like she got, I think it waslike Toyota Corolla Do nuns
drive.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
No, no, no, but it was just like you know.
It's like you never really seethem.
I never see a nun in a car.
I'm like how are we getting?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
there in her Toyota Corolla, and it was that her
Toyota Corolla, and it was.
It was that sounds like a nuncar, yes, and so I still to this
day.
Um, if I could connect with her, I would, but besides her,
every other nun that I wastaught by, or like my sister and
I were taught by, um, yeah, itwas pretty scary Like there was
this one nun.
She was just so tall, she waslike six two and and she when
(10:03):
she would get mad.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
She was like 6'2" and when she would get mad her face
would get so red it was goingto explode.
And my sister and I we stilltalk about her to this day
because she was really scary andmaybe because she was just so
big, so tall and red.
I was like um, are you sureLike, do you think like having
like a nun like that or ateacher like that?
Um has kind of framed any likethought process that you have
now as an adult, like the guiltand shame that maybe they bestow
upon you?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
at that age.
You know, I think I've done alot of work so that, no, that's
not the case for me anymore.
No, that's not the case for meanymore.
But I will say, yes, obviously,anytime I did anything or
pushed a boundary or anythinglike that, it would that guilt
does.
Or if you have like a reallyfun night with your friends and
like maybe you had some I don'tknow 40s or something like that,
(10:59):
that, but like that guilt comesback and you're like, oh, I'm
not supposed to do that if youhad sex and you're like, oh yeah
, like I'm now going to hellbecause I'm having sex, when,
like, oh, I'm not supposed to dothat.
Or if you had sex and you'relike, oh yeah, like I'm now
going to hell because, I'mhaving sex when someone's
telling me I'm not supposed tobe having sex, and so yeah, it
does.
And I know a lot of people whoare still like super religious
that went to that school and I'mfriends with a lot of them and
(11:26):
they're great people, you know,but it's just.
It is that that religious, thatCatholic guilt.
I guess people like to call itUm, but I'm sure it happens in
all formats of religion, but forme it was just we called it the
Catholic guilt because it'salways.
It's always there you know, andI mean my family always gave you
know all the money.
They donated everything thatthey could donate their time,
whatever but we never went tochurch okay, you didn't really
go to like masses, my dad wasbaptist, my mom was catholic but
(11:50):
, like, obviously, they sent usto catholic school, um, for just
the safety purposes.
You know, like, my mom grew upin san francisco and was in the
public school system and duringall the, yeah, I saw a lot that
was going on.
Yeah, she, just she, wentthrough a lot, especially as a
latin woman and a predominantly,um, a predominantly black
(12:12):
school, you know.
So, uh, I think for her it waslet's just send them there
because we know there'sprotection there, um, but, yeah,
every time we would go tochurch which would be Easter,
yeah, the good holidays, thegood holiday Our family would
walk in and the priest wouldliterally look at my family and
say, wow, it's so nice to havethe Curry family grace us with
(12:37):
their presence and you know, andthat makes us want to come back
so much more, so much more,thank you but then they're like
thank you for gracing us withyour presence.
Um, the basket money, Thank you,Thank you.
But then they're like thank youfor gracing with your presence.
The basket Money, Money.
It's just that.
Sounds about right, you know,it's just so.
Yeah, it's a very interestingworld to grow up in.
What?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
advice would you give to like young kids, young girls
especially, who maybe areentering into like the Catholic
school space?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I guess I would say Hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
What would I say to them?
And I'm sure there are positiveelements to it, of course.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Of course.
Of course I mean, like I said,I'm not very religious myself,
so I'm more spiritual, so I dotake things that I learned there
and maybe not turn it into thesame thing of how they wanted us
to see it, but I do see certainstories from the Bible that I
can relate to.
Of course, maybe notnecessarily it's something where
it's specifically thatsituation happened, but I can
see where, okay, I can use thisin my life.
(13:38):
So I think the advice I wouldgive is, when you're learning
these things from people, yourteachers, it's taking it as it
comes and using it to your lifeas it's happening.
You know so, and not takingeverything so literal, because I
do think in religion, a lot oftimes, people do take things
(14:00):
very, very literal no deviation,yeah.
And it doesn't have to be thatway.
Yeah, so that's the advice Iwould give them.
Just don't take everythingliteral, very literal.
No deviation, yeah, and itdoesn't have to be that way.
Yeah, so that's the advice Iwould give them.
Just don't take everythingliteral.
Use those stories, take themand envision them how you would
like to learn from that, to be abetter person.
And a better person doesn'tmean that you have to know the
(14:23):
Bible front and back.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, supply it to your life Bible front and back.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, Supply it to your life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was acrazy.
I'm even wearing socks todaybecause I and they have holes in
them.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
This is very holy girl.
Holy girl, okay, so don't judgeme From her head, her shoulders
, her knees and her socks.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I realized that I have holes in these socks these
are one of my favorite socks.
Like growing up, we had uniform.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh, you were with the knee-high socks, right?
No, they would let us themovies.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Those are just well.
Maybe some schools it dependson like what uniform you were
given.
None of my friends I rememberfriends I remember wore like
knee-high socks, maybe likesometimes to be cute, but like
it wasn't mandatory.
But in the beginning of goingthere there was no uh uniform
for socks so what I?
(15:18):
would do is wear colorful socksor patterned socks or you know,
like to show my personality alittle bit, and then I was able
to do that for maybe like two orthree years and then they put
in a guideline that we couldonly wear white, black or navy
blue socks and I was like boring, okay, and I knew it was
(15:41):
because of me.
I was the only girl that reallylike wore he.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
She hiked up her skirts, wore colorful socks.
She was the rebel.
I was.
I really was.
Were you like the leader?
Do you have like other littleCatholic school girls following
you?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I wasn't the leader, but I was in a group where, like
there were leaders in thereOkay, but I definitely wasn't
the leader there was, like girls, some of my friends like
growing up, like elementary,junior, high school, that were
definitely more of a leader thanme.
Um, what are they doing nowwith their?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
lives.
Are they killing it in lifelike?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
you they are oh, I mean they're not in the
entertainment industry bullies,they were just leaders yeah,
they were just leaders.
Like you know, I'm talking about, like regina george no, no, no,
I mean, don't get me wrongthere was one time and I still
feel very bad about this how Ihandled it but I knew that there
was this girl in school who waswriting about people in our
(16:35):
class how she would want them todie, wow.
So I knew that she was writingthis because I kind of saw it
sometimes like briefly, and soinstead and this is, you know,
don't do this, okay, if you'relistening.
Okay, I took her diary duringrecess and ran all the way to
(17:00):
the blacktop corner and me andmy friends opened it to see
what's what was said in there,because I knew that we were all
in there.
Burn book, yes, and literally Imean some some of the ways was
like I hope so and so gets hitby lightning, or like I hope so
and so gets ran over by a car,or like food poisoning or crazy
(17:20):
things.
Right granted, I should havetold a teacher first and
foremost.
I should not have taken herburn book and let all of the
girls in the class read it whoare our friends.
But at the time I was what?
In seventh grade.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think you did a service.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You were warning these people about their
potential deaths that she wasFor sure, but I definitely
should have just handed itSister John Ellen, actually was
our, our principal, so I shouldhave handed it to sister john
said hey, I don't want to stealfrom somebody.
But yeah, this girl I knowthere's things in here that we
need to address and she ended upgetting suspended and I didn't
(17:59):
because I, I was honest, I saidI I'm the one that took it and I
I'm sorry, but I was reallyconcerned for my friends.
Yeah, like what we were, and itwasn't just my friend, she said
it about like so many people inthe class.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I hope she's okay to this day.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
She is I, I think we found each other like on
Facebook years ago.
Okay, and she's good.
I think she's like super open,sexually wise, like she is a
lesbian now and I think you knowshe was just struggling with
her own demons and going throughthings and her being maybe
having these feelings in aCatholic school and not being
(18:36):
able to express them to anybody.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, all that pent up like shit will definitely get
you and manifest in its own way.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I understood like why ?
Now, as an adult, I understandlike she was just this, was just
her projecting um.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
She wasn't bringing a gun to school to shoot at
school.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
No, no, no but again, who like, but who would have
known?
So I mean who knows, yeah, so Ido regret I mean not not that I
regret it, I just a lot andthat was without social media,
(19:11):
yeah, but this is seventh grade,so there was absolutely no
social media.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
We didn't have any of that.
Back then again, we got bulliedin real time, in real life.
I don't know what's worsebetween like cyber bullying and
like real life bullying.
I honestly think I prefer thereal life bullying Like let's
meet me in the playground andpunch me if you want to laugh
about it and then move on thenext day versus like the group
chats and like the social mediayeah, like creating the fake
(19:36):
accounts and that stuff, I think.
I would like to see a studyresearch on like the suicide
rates of young kids, like thenand now, based on like cyber
bullying versus, yeah, like realbullying suicide and depression
and I feel like the cyberbullying days are way worse.
I think well, it's just youhave more time.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I'm sorry, guys, I just hit the mic um, I think you
have more time behind acomputer, yeah, to really say
what you want to say, and inperson, sometimes you get riled
up and you forget what you wantto say Back then it was like yo
mama, that's what I had to sayYo mama, You're like, don't talk
about my mama.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That literally was like the extent of our insults
to each other.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I mean in high school hindsight like in high school
when I did decide to go to likea public school for a little bit
and I had both.
I had in-person bullying andcyber bullying and they're both
pretty up there.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
They're both pretty like I was allowed to have
social media in high school.
Like I think I got a Facebooktowards the end.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
This was MySpace.
I meant MySpace.
I was allowed to have a.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
MySpace towards the end, but like so we didn't
really, I didn't really get toexperience all that.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, thankfully, yeah, no, it was bad
.
I mean it was it was not funand, like I said, I just think
they have more time to be cleverin their, in their comebacks
and create like an army.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You know, I think that's what people can do is
like again this they can freeall these people around you,
yeah, and so, like you know,sydney sweeney's of the world,
who does this ad and beforesocial media and go on like a
magazine cover and people willtalk about it, but there's
nowhere for it to go.
Now she's like laying on herbed scrolling through comments
and there's millions just sayingshe's ugly, she's whatever.
It is a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's a lot worse, I agree, I, yeah, I totally agree.
Social media it's just crazy.
It's just crazy.
But you, my friend, went tomultiple different schools.
Yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Growing up.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, I went to the same school from K through 8th
grade, okay, and then I triedgoing to a public school for two
and a half years.
Didn't work out.
Went back to private school.
Catholic school took me back,thanks, so, yeah, so I didn't.
I I've known pretty much likethe same people, yeah, kind of
my whole life, kind of you know.
(22:00):
But what, what was it like foryou to be bouncing around
schools?
How many schools did youactually go to?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well between.
So I was before foster care, Iwas.
So I was fourth grade when Ientered foster care, so my first
three years of school I went toa different school every year.
So I was just like never hadfriends, never had like a place,
never had the identity.
Uh, I was in austin, texas.
There was like this big, likewell-known all-black school
called barbara jordan barbarajordan is a famous, you know
(22:29):
historical black woman, and Iwas the lightest skin girl that
went there besides my littlewhite sister, erica, and felt
very out of place there becauseI again was light skin at an all
black school.
I'd try to like, talk black andbe black, which is anyway.
If you're mixed, you get it.
And then we went to this otherschool called white stone.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Enough said in the name I'm sorry, hold on, what
was it?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
called white stone.
So then I'm like oh shit, I amblack, no more.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So then I turned into the white kayla oh, did you
turn like did you turn like thewhite country?
Listen, I don't have a codeswitch like you've never seen
before.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, before I was four, oh, oh my gosh, and then I
went to, moved to the fosterhome, went to like the local
elementary school, was therefourth, fifth, sixth grade.
In sixth grade I madecheerleader.
This was like a big deal.
But then, like my two bestfriends turned on me that year,
we got into this big fight,fight on the playground.
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They were mad at me about somestupid shit.
Like I wore like sexy skinnyjeans to school.
They thought I was trying toget attention.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well, like we've talked about, you have a good
ass, so they were just jealousof your ass.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I was 12.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I had a show off my ass.
Yeah, like hello.
Homecoming court was coming up.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So my parents knew how upset I was and they're like
you know what?
There's a new Christian schoolopening up down the street, like
30 minutes on the road.
Do you want to transfer schools?
I'm like, yeah, whatever ittakes, get me out of here.
So I moved to this other schoolAgain brand new school.
It was all like in trailers.
It was almost like a trailerpark school that was funded by
the parents basically.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I just actually saw a meme yesterday that was like
they didn't even rebuild schoolsfor us.
They just put us in thesetrailer things with like the
ramps coming up.
That's literally what my schoolwas.
Yeah, that's what they did forus too.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And the best part is on the way to school.
Every day, at the gas stationnext to the school, we picked up
some fried frog legs.
So I would have fried frog legsfor breakfast.
Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
They're good.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I'll get you some fried frog legs and some boiled
peanuts.
I don't want a ribbit.
No, a ribbit.
You also have rabbit no they'rejust too cute.
I don't know, they are cuteanyway, so but then that school
was an all white school, so Iwas one of two mixed girls that
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went there and we hated eachother.
That's a whole other story.
So, yeah, I think my entirelike school was just me trying
to find my place and like notknowing where, like who I was,
or like what color I wassupposed to be or how I fit in
with these kids.
Um.
So yeah, that was that was.
That was rough, and again, itwas a Christian school.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
My chemistry teacher there, his best friend, was the
principal there and so I justfelt I was constantly in this
like, yep, this, this, this,this bubble, this did you so
when you were moving around likea lot, you said you didn't, you
weren't really able to makefriends, not really like I
always thought my very firstfriend ever, um was well, two
first friends, lauren Knight andChrissy Cleveland, um and
Arielriel wilkins actually threefriends.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
They came up to me in the fourth grade and they just
kind of like took me under thewing.
They knew about me because Iwas like this new foster kid.
Everyone knew about the fosterkids in the town again small
town and they took me.
We're still friends.
Well, me, lauren and chrissywere still friends to this day.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I was at chrissy's wedding.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
um, so yeah, that was like such a big moment, like as
a kid, like I have friends nowand it is nice to look back and
be like 25 years later I'm stilltalking to these people every
once in a while.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's the best part.
It's like regardless ofeverything that we had to go
through going to private schools.
You know it's, it is nice I get.
I still am friends with peoplethat I've known since then,
since kindergarten.
It's crazy.
Since I was five years old, likeI still am friends with people
that I've known sincekindergarten.
It's crazy.
Since I was five years old,like I still know what they're
doing.
I've gone to some of theirweddings.
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I've met their kids.
Like you know, most of themhave at least one or multiple
kids now and they're married.
And they're in school age now.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Maybe that's what's important for like people going
to school now is to like reallytry to find your little tribe.
Yes, because they, you know itcan last for a lifetime
absolutely find the right people.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Did you ever like decorate your locker?
Were you that girl or no?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think so I'm trying to remember so again.
I went to this christian schoolthat was so intensely christian
school and I think we did like,during homecoming week, we all
got to like decorate our lockersand I think I remember I've
been told a few times I wassacrilegious based on the way I
like decorated or did my finalschool project Like I did.
I did a rap.
Like I, I rapped a Christian.
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I made up a Christian rap songcalled Sipp Sipping on the word.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I still remember all the lyrics, Are you?
Can we like have a preview of?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
this.
Don't be sipping on thehaterade.
Be sipping on the word.
Be telling folks about Jesus.
Make sure everyone done heardAbout the great things he did
and how he came to die so all ofus could one day join him in
the sky.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And that is Kayla Becker, everyone.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I did a whole music video where I had all my.
I did a whole music video whereI had all my.
I got a bunch of Coca-Colabottles and we took off the
label and wrote beer on it.
So I had all my friends likedrinking beer and then did this
whole like I'm a very like thinkhinder or, like you know, like
music videos from back in theday and I thought I have it on a
disc somewhere and I rememberthe teacher, this old lady who
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was over the project, called myparents and told them to come in
to look at it.
They're like this is veryinappropriate and they're my
parents like completely defendedme.
They're like you can't tell.
Like she did the project verycreative and it was all about
like christianity and jesus.
Like I think it's okay, butlike they don't know any black
people at this school.
So they're like rap music isthe devil's music and I'm over
(28:03):
here like don't be sipping onthat hater, right, Be sipping on
the word.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Oh, it's pretty catchy.
I'm not going to lie.
I mean honestly, don't besipping on the hater right, be
sipping on the word, be tellingfolks about Jesus, make sure
everyone down heard.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And then they're like , oh, snack, that's okay.
Oh, I had some backup people,so our name spelt out snack
S-N-A-C-K.
So I was like, oh, snack,that's right.
No, we don't bite.
We've been saved by the one whohas called the light.
He's been saving his people forages and ages, but people still
don't believe what's written onthe pages People been breathing
in.
I was good.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh my God, we need to record this.
I you go like viral on TikTokbecause we record and then we
come up with like a little danceand then it goes crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
It might.
You have a Christian albumSipping on the word Well, and
growing up, though, is all myparents let me listen to was
Christian music For sure, and soI loved rap and like heavy
metal, so I found rap and heavymetal Christian artists.
So I found rap and heavy metalChristian artists, so I was
inspired a lot by that.
That's amazing.
So when I put this together,that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, that right, there is amazing.
That's a little bit about me.
I'm shocked Like I'm shooketh.
Honestly, this is amazing.
I did not.
I wasn't expecting that.
I'm hot.
It's not in the rundown, it'snot even in the rundown, but she
gave it to us.
So what was the next thing wewant to?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
talk about.
Oh well anyway, but no,honestly, that was a big part of
like okay, being brown in awhite school and me leaning into
that a lot.
Yeah, did put a target on myback.
So, like people love calling melike mut was dating this
because the boys liked me.
The boys liked me because I wassomething different and their
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parents would say things to themlike if you bring her home,
there'll be two nooses waitingfor you, one for you, one for
her.
Oh my god, I had a teacher.
Actually I walked into aclassroom it wasn't my classroom
, I just walked in.
I was at an accident.
He goes hey, little black girl,get out of here.
To where the senior, like ranout, was like are you okay?
And he went to the principal onmy behalf, like it was just
such a like openly racist schoolto where I just never felt like
(30:12):
.
And this was like another mehaving a code switch again.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I'm so sorry no, I mean thank you.
No, I mean that's that no oneshould, but this is a and that's
what's funny this is achristian school exactly, and
this is how I was treated.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
It's supposed to be Christians, and like all these
things and blah blah blah.
Send me back to the publicschool please.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Do you think that like that environment like hurt
your sense of identity?
Or do you think, being in thatenvironment, you got to tell
yourself no, no, no, I knowexactly who I am.
I know that these people justdon't understand me.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I mean I think kind of both.
Like I think to this day Istill struggle a lot with it, my
identity, because I think Ijust I've never lived in a place
where I was okay, allowed to beLike.
I didn't even know I was notwhite until I was probably seven
and my sister's boyfriendcalled me the N-word and I was
like what is that?
And then I learned, oh oh, I'mactually black because all my
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siblings are white, so I justdidn't know it was different,
right.
And then um, and then yeah,having to code, switch so much,
and then I think it's helped mefigure out a lot of things.
I know exactly who I am, but Ido still find myself like being
a chameleon when I have to be,because it's so easy for me to
be and I wish it wasn't so easysometimes, like I want to just
be Kayla authentically 100% ofthe time, but I know, like how
(31:28):
to.
If I'm put in a situation I canbe, like I can turn this part
on.
I can turn this part on, youknow, yeah, which it's a
blessing and a curse, but forsure you know it's yeah, I mean
work in progress.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, I think that's.
That's probably.
That is probably sometimesgoing to a school like that,
where you don't necessarilyidentify yourself as that.
Yeah, it's like you have to putthis on in order to get by and
not get in trouble for certainthings.
So, yeah, like you don't get toactually be yourself.
You know, it is weird.
Actually, now that I'm thinkingabout it too, it's like I never
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wanted to get in trouble, youknow.
So I would try and do the rightthing, yeah, but that right
thing is the right thing intheir eyes, not for you, not for
me.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, you know, like with religion, and like you said
about, like how we were taughtin, like a religious upbringing
or schools, about sex, like Iwas forced or told I had to wear
a promise ring.
So we all did this whole.
Like all the girls had to weartheir little promise ring.
Don't take it off to yourmarriage and then you give that
to the man that you're going togive your flower to.
Wow, mine came off during actprep, sixth period, when I was
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15 years old.
You know like.
But like these little, thesethings that you like are trying
to force kids to do based onreligion, like most of the time
they're gonna go against it.
It's either gonna happen atthat age or five years into
their perfect marriage whenthey're like oh, I didn't get to
live my life the way I wantedto do it, I did it based on fear
.
Right, because the religion isbased around fear.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, like organizations like that is all
based around that Right.
It's based on making sure thatwe can have these people feel
this way about this one entity.
That's it.
And if you don't do right bythis one entity, then you're
going to hell, you're doomed tohell.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's like everything is like don't like even like go
off a little.
You know path like suicide.
You know I feel like we see alot of you know it's so
unfortunate, it's really sad.
And I've dealt with mentalhealth issues.
You know we've all dealt withmental health and it's like and
Christianity, if you commitsuicide, you're doomed to hell,
right and like that's so messedup to me.
Yeah, so you mean to tell mesomeone like and that's what,
(33:33):
just what you're taught, Right,and these like organizations and
it's just, or like being gaybeing gay I talked to isn't an
easy life for us, and so it'sjust so sad.
God makes no mistakes.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Well, then you're right, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
If that's the case, then leave my gay man alone.
He's going to be right up therein heaven with all of us with
the rainbow flags, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Exactly Like living it up, like living it up, living
it up, but yeah, it's just,it's a's a, it was a very.
I haven't like thought aboutthat in so long.
I just haven't thought aboutcatholic school in a very long
time.
But yeah, I mean I will say yes, safety wise, sure, yeah, I, I
appreciate it.
Um, and then also being able tosee being in a catholic
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environment, private schoolenvironment and then a public
school environment, I saw thedifference and you felt like it
was for me and you just thriveda lot better.
It's like if someone tried tojump me at my private school.
You're gone.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
You're gone.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
But in public school it's like first warning, second
warning, third warning, you getsuspended for a couple days and
then you're back.
I'm like, now you have, nowyou're back at school with this
person.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know, did you ever get suspended or in
detention or anything?
Detention yes all you can sayall the time, not all the time.
Sorry mom, maybe it was justlike you know it's funny.
You know it's funny, yes I canyou already know what it is?
Talking too much and um Clothes.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Just one other Clothes, not so much Skipping
class, making out with boys inthe wait.
Were there boys there?
No, no, I mean, yes, there were.
Okay, there were plenty of boysthere.
I actually like had, I think,my first kiss at like daycare.
I was like after school daycare.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
We played spin the bottle, this, this with a
coca-cola, with like a can't goin daycare, yeah, we would go to
like to the corner of the blacktop of the basketball top oh so
black top is like it's.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
They had many different, like basketball
courts okay, and it's.
It's a black, it's like a, likea black cement, so we would
call it the black top, okay?
So, yes, that's what I meanwhen I'm saying black top.
It's not anything having to dowith racial anything.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I didn't think that at all.
No, I know, but just for ouraudiences.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
That's not what I'm saying.
But yes, we would go to thecorner of the blacktop and we
would take like our little canand we would play spin the
bottle, oh my.
You know because they didn'tknow, we were just sitting in a
circle.
They probably thought we weredoing kumbaya or prayer circle.
No, we weren't doing a prayercircle, we were playing spin the
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block.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Oh my Wait, okay.
So what did you do?
Detention for, though.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I didn't.
Most of it was for being late,Tardy.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Which hello.
That's why I was like, why Iknow, like it's like a I'm
getting better.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Even today, I was only five minutes late.
I was only five minutes late,you guys, I was, and I'm getting
better, I'm getting better.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
This time next year she'll be only two minutes late.
No, this time next year.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I will be on time.
I'm going to be 15 minutesearly.
I'm going to be like Kayla,almost there.
I'm like okay, great, I'm here.
I'm sitting at the table.
Yeah, like, where are you?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I have our wine ready and I'm such a stickler for
time, like it's like to a fault,like it's too bad, like it's-.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
No, but my all my friends, every friend in my life
, none of them are ever on time.
Make sure I'm like I thinkabout parking and traffic, Like
my brain is just like that.
Yeah, If someone is late, oh, Iknow I've had dates show up
like five minutes late or saythey're five minutes late.
I'm like you missed me, I'msorry.
She's like sorry, I'm gone Iknow it was LA traffic rush hour
, but you missed me.
I calculated it.
(37:22):
I calculated what time to gethere.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Why can't you?
Oh my gosh.
But yeah, that's probably why.
But I wasn't.
I wasn't like a troublemaker,in a sense of I was always
getting in trouble like were youI don't think you know, I got
like so we had um funny.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
They called it ass.
What is that?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
after school suspension ass, ass you
literally had to go to ass youhad.
You're going to ask you nameafter school.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, that's in, but it was always for talking and
much.
And was this at your Christianschool?
I think?
Actually, I think we, oh, Ithink we had ASS at the public
school, okay, but ISS at Inschool, suspension at the
Christian school, which?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
sounds a little close .
Anyway, Like hello, just callit detention?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I don't, we didn't.
No one ever called it thatthere.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, it was Interesting, but mine was always
for like talking too much, likeI disturbed the class and I'm
always like, oh well, it's funny, I turned that into a career
because now I get paid to talk alot.
Yeah, back then they'd move mydesk outside into the hallway
(38:25):
and I'd have to stay there for,like my teachers, I mean, at
least detention was like afterschool.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I wasn't missing school to go to detention.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I mean what kid was mad that we were missing class.
Right, that's what's in schoolsuspension During school hours.
We have to go to ISS and I'mlike this in this math class?
Yeah, oh no, when you have yourphones, because we didn't have
phones, so we're just likedrawing those like Drawing like
a one, two, three the S's, ordoing that game where, like you,
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mash, oh my gosh Mash.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I know I don't remember.
You're going to marry, likeyour something, spouse and then
house.
What was the A?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I don't remember Was it like car Automotive Like
automobile.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So it was like MASH, who you're gonna marry what?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
car you're gonna drive.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Who you're gonna.
It's your spouse.
No, because Mary is spouse.
Oh, you're right.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
S We'll have to like, if we're gonna look this up,
maybe we should play MASH.
Oh, career, career.
What has that s?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I don't remember we'll look it up like what's the
action.
Yeah, hold on.
What is the s bother me?
What?
Okay, what is the s in mashgame shack?
Okay, wait so mansion apartment, shack house, oh, so it was
just like no, it's just whatyou're gonna end up in.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
A mansion, oh wait, no Living situation spouse
number of kids, yeah, but I feellike it was marriage,
automobile shack, I don'tremember.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
So yeah, it was job car city number of kids.
Oh wait mansion apartment.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh no, because you did, and that was just about
what home you were going to bein.
Then you had to do all theseside ones.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Okay, got it, got it.
We should play next.
We should do this.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
We'll post this on our social media.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, yeah, we'll do a MASH for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Wait, do you know what a medium and a bad, yeah,
subcategory.
And then you pick numbers andgo around and around and around.
Okay, we'll have to play withyou.
Yeah, yeah, because Alex he'shelping us.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Mash was so fun it was, but yeah, that's all we had
.
We would literally do or writenotes to your crush, right?
Oh, yes, I wrote notes, wouldliterally write to.
I still have them.
I have a little box of notes Ithe most of them were with my
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friend, kayla Costas, and we'dcall each other pookie and so
like I have so many notes withher and it would just be like
two pookie from pookie and itwould be talking about things
that we already talked aboutlike yeah, yeah, it was like
texting and snapchat back then,which now, like, no one writes
notes and snapchat and you hadto run the risk of getting your
note confiscated by a teacherand then they read it in front
of the class, which happened tome way too many times.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yes, oh, I miss those days.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I know I do, but I don't like I do but I don't.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
If we were starting school like now in 2025, what
would be your biggest fear?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
social media.
Yeah, that would be my biggestfear.
It.
I think I think there's so muchpressure on kids these days.
Um, like even my niece, who'snine, she wants to put stuff.
You know, she wants to likealways film stuff and post it
and I think she would be reallycute on it and fun on it.
But it there is obviously mysister, my brother-in-law are
(41:47):
very protective over her and andmy other niece also, but
obviously Ellie's like nine, soshe's a little older and you
know, anytime she's with me, sheknows that's what I do for a
part of my living and so shealways wants to film stuff.
And I remember us doing a liveon TikTok about brushing her
hair and I remember someonesaying something not necessarily
(42:12):
bad about her, but like, justlike something negative, and I
wanted to kill this personthrough the screen and I
realized, oh shit, like this,this is just what it is.
Even with a nine-year-old,people are still gonna have some
shit to say which is insane tome so I think yeah, what about
you?
I mean probably the same thing.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, like I'm.
I'm a, you know, I'm asensitive gangster, as they call
.
Like I, you know, try to playhard, but the stuff on social
media is still like.
Today I posted a thing like hey, our legacy video.
I was like hey, how do you wantto like leave your legacy?
And someone responded like tonot have shit stains all over my
face like you, because, likethis guy, he always comes after
me about my freckles.
He's so offended by freckles wow, that is um, but initially I
(42:56):
wanted to respond I'm like.
But then why?
Like, yeah, I think I get morecompliments on my freckles than
anything else.
I know it was a bit as a kid.
It was my biggest insecuritywhere, like, I wanted them to go
away.
They weren't trendy back then.
Now people are paying to putthem on their face, right, but
like, I don't know if I was akid and got comments like that
how I would handle it, like Iyou know it would have been
really tough and I'm glad wedidn't have that uh back then
(43:18):
okay, uh, what advice do we givekids who maybe feel different
at school?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I think we both went through that feeling different
at school that's such a hard one, because I would want to say
just own it and know that we'reall special individually and so
that that maybe different thingthat you do have is probably
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what's going to make you a lotof money down the line.
Exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Like all the different nerds, weirdos, ones
who are made fun of.
Use that as your motivation andjust take over the world to
where, like, when you go home,they're like wanting to see you
or take a photo with you or bragabout the fact that they went
to school with you, whilethey're sitting on their couch
300 overweight with, yeah, fourbaby daddies.
Yeah, personal experience.
Yeah, saying everybody's likethat, but yeah, like, own it,
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make it in, yeah yeah, I meanmake your life out, even even
like having.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I've had a big butt my entire life ever since I was
little and people damn it.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
No, but it's like I used to want it to go away.
I know Back then before theKardashians were around.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, like I wanted my butt.
I was like I hate my butt andda, da, da, da.
Like it's like you know, peoplealways make comments on it.
And now I'm like, and then it'slike some people get offended
when I show off my butt.
I'm like, bro, hater, bejealous, like it's okay, but
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that is crazy to me.
Like I used to just hate my notmy body totally, but my body,
yeah, like that.
It's always been there.
I've always had a butt and it'sjust and it's funny.
It's like when the kardashiansobviously started becoming a
thing back in the day, peoplewould ask me if my butt was real
or not, and I would be sooffended but just like taking it
(45:10):
back Like what, Like wait, LikeI didn't even understand that
that was a thing.
Yeah, and I'm like, well, if youlook at my seven-year-old
photos.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I've always had this little bubble butt, like always.
My seven-year-old photos.
I always had this little bubblebutt, like always.
It is funny how things likethat that you were bullied for,
that I was bullied for now arelike.
I'm sure you still get asked.
I got stopped on Sunset andsomeone was like oh my god, I
love your freckles.
What did you get them done?
And I'm like what, like what?
Yes, and our asses.
(45:40):
I from my dad's side, okay, notfrom my mama's side.
My mom's side of the family,they have no butts.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Thanks daddy.
Yeah, except for actually mycousin Carlotta.
She has a big ass too.
So we were the big booty girlslike me, my sister, and my
cousin.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Everyone was mad like y'all took it all.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, everyone else had no ass except for my dad's
side.
Else had no ass except for mydad's side.
They all had big booty, bigjuicy butts and I'm like, thank
you, thank you all, my BatonRouge family.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Okay, before we go, wait, no, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
No, I was going to ask you.
No, no, no, no go.
I forgot, here we go.
This is what happens.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I was going to rapid fire.
I don't know the answers to allof this, but okay, if we had to
go through having number twopencils and erasers versus iPads
what would you prefer havingwhen you were growing up?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I love writing on paper and that's probably
because I'm a millennial, but I,oh God.
But now, if I had an iPad back,then I know I just love.
I love the feeling of like apen to paper or paper pencil to
paper.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I got issued sentences all the time.
Growing up I had to write likea hundred two hundred sentences,
if I could.
Just you can't really do thatwith someone with an iPad.
Now you just copy and paste, doyou?
Have to do kids still writesentences?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I don't.
Yes, they do.
I was trying to think if I'veseen my niece yes, she writes,
and she still writes yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
But let me like sentence it like as a punishment
.
No, you don't remember doingthat?
I don't think so.
Did you do that?
Yes, okay, do you know what itis?
I know what it is.
So, kids, don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, maybe that is the punishment though Maybe they
do.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, okay, yeah, carrie.
Haley books versus notes,versus Snapchat Passing notes.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
There's something so sweet about that.
There's so sweet about likemaking it into a little triangle
or something and like flickingit across the room.
A little frog, yeah, yeah, like, just like, like got it.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Or just like knowing Pass that over.
Yeah, pass it over three rows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah don't know.
Yeah, I like snapchat is stillscary too to me, because in the
beginning, especially when itwas like when there's a big leak
that's when I deleted mine backin 2012, 2012 I mean we should
get back on it.
People are like making moneyoff that shit I didn't even know
you could do that.
Yes, I think.
I don't know.
I think there's an age I don'tfuck.
(47:53):
I think I'm too old to be onsnapchat.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I don't think so I'm gonna you do it.
Let me know how it goes for you.
Okay, I did try for like asecond for like a couple of days
and I was like I'm just tired.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I wouldn't date a guy who was on a Snapchat, because
I don't trust it.
I feel like people be sendinglike some sketchy shit they do.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, no, they for sure do, especially when it
first came out.
It's like yeah, you people weresending nudes left and right
because it's gonna go away.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Nothing goes.
You can screenshot it in theuniverse of the internet, it
never goes away all right, beingcalled up to the board, which I
hate it, especially like I hadreally bad sweat issues when I
was younger, like I was atsweaty armpits and then you have
to go up to the board and writeand yeah, come, finish the math
problem versus, like now, youknow, zoom school during covid I
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would have begged my parents tobe, uh, in a zoom school, right
.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I would have begged them because I I danced right,
so I had a community.
It's not like I would have beenthis like homeschool jungle
freak.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, you know I.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
There's nothing wrong with homeschool, oh no, no, but
I'm just I'm quoting mean girlsif you don't know, okay, but
there is a stigma, but there's astigma behind it, but I still,
to this day, like my sister andI talk about it Like we would
have been fine beinghomeschooled?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, because you had other people and friends.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Especially if there was Zoom involved.
Like you know back in yeahwhich I would have much rather
of that, because I had anxiety.
You asked me a question that Ialready know, like what research
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is, and like I get so anxiousin front of people.
Sometimes I forget the answerand in Zoom I feel like, oh, oh,
I'm in my own space, it's, I'msafe and I can say it and even
if they laugh at me, whatever,like.
I can't really see them turncamera off.
Yes, exactly okay.
Detention versus cancel culture, that's an easy one attention
(49:54):
detention I would.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
I would be in detention every day as an adult,
as a grown-up.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Please put me in detention yeah please tell me, I
cannot go to work and let meknow like I will pass out.
You won't even know.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I'll like take a little nap on the desk, no
problemo.
Turn the lights out, did youever?
Speaker 2 (50:13):
did you ever take naps like that and then all of a
sudden, you, no, no, I wouldtwitch.
And then what I would do inclass is I would twitch and be
like what I wasn't asleep, no,you knew I was asleep.
No, I was like I'm good, myteachers would slam the ruler on
the desk and just yeah, no, Allright.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Recess drama versus group chat leaks.
Again, I said it earlier Recessdrama.
I'd rather face-to-facebullying versus the cyber
bullying stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I'd rather have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, or just punch me in the face once and let's
move on.
And then uniforms versus, youknow, being cute and aesthetic
and having to like, figure outyour outfits and don't wear
skinny jeans at school, yourfriends are gonna be mad at you.
Or you just come to school allin the same uniform and then you
can't really get made fun of.
I actually think I wish I hadthat option.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong Like I love being
aesthetically pleasing in anyway I can, but I do think I was
tired.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
I did not want to have to think about my outfit.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
And every night before.
I had to like pick out myoutfit for school, I would
rather have a uniform, like Iknew I was wearing this skirt,
this, this sweater, or thesepants, this top, this sweater
and these shoes, whereas my highschool it was semi-uniform.
So it was like you had to wearkhaki pants.
You could wear any color, uh uh, collared shirt, but it'd have
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to be collared shirt like.
So then you're spending moneyto wear back to school clothes
that like you don't really wantto wear, like.
I don't even remember the lasttime I've worn a collared shirt
because like, or like thosekhaki pants, because it's just
like it's.
It's one of those things whereand then we would all show up
wearing like kind of the samething.
I mean, me and my best friendwould show up literally in the
(51:56):
same thing.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Sometimes it'd be hilarious we talk to the same
air apostle.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, yeah, uh, air apostle hollister and
abercrombie, yeah, but like itcouldn't have abercrombie, it
could have the little yeah, bird, but it couldn't have the full
name that was so, not fetch yeahabsolutely not.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Um, all right.
Well, guys, that's a little bitof our uh.
We made school sound really bad.
We didn't mean to, but it's one.
Like you know, this is whatwe're just venting I haven't had
a good vince session aboutgrowing up in a school that I
grew up in a while, so andhonestly like shout out to my
sister, because she was the onetelling me you guys should talk
about back to school because she, you know she's dealt with this
(52:34):
a lot too, so she understands.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Oh well, do we have?
Speaker 1 (52:36):
any final words to this new generation going back
to school right now.
Like you said, own your shit,do the work, don't try to dumb
yourself down to seem cool,because that was really thing I
think, yeah, I, I think that'sover, though, thank goodness
yeah, like being dumb.
Being dumb is it like cuteanymore, I think.
I think being smart is like thenew is the new?
I mean, I used to like I wouldfail a test back then because I
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got like bullied for being thesmart kid in class.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
I wish I was bullied for being smart.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
No, I did my homework , but I got like.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
C's Like I said, if I got a.
C on a test.
I'm not a good test taker,unfortunately so that's OK.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, that's a test.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
And also, you know we wanted to give a shout out to
Jay Balvin.
You know he's giving back tothe Latin community through his
Vibra and Alta Foundation, whichfocuses on education and
empowerment for the Colombianyouth, and I just think that's
really cool.
I don't think a lot of peopleare talking about it, but he
deserves his flowers because hereally has taken a stance on
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trying to make a difference,especially from where he comes
from, but not only from where hecomes from, but shedding light
on that with children all aroundthe world, and so I just think
that's really cool.
And it's nice to see celebs whotake the time to give back, and
we know that they're extremelybusy and their schedules are
scheduling.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
I want to focus on, like the education of youth and,
I think, celebrities who dotake that route.
He probably has some storiesabout growing up, you know, as
as as a, you know, kid, in thiseducation system that we've had
for the last several years.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
So, yes, kudos, so kudos.
Thank you, Jay Balvin.
Thank you for trying to changethat and uh, you know, here we
go.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
You, I'm sure J Balvin, drinks tea and if he was
drinking tea, we're going torun into it.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
He would be using the best ingredients, which would
be Vanessa Curry, myself andKayla Becker, and he would have
the perfect tasting tea.
So on that note we will see youguys next time.
Bye, bye.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Have fun in school, kids, don't do drugs, don't do
drugs.
Oh God, dare, dare.
We should have gone in thatroute.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
Oh fuck, we should have talked about dare I have
that thing?
We're so good.
Welcome back everyone to Milk and Honey's episode 16.
We should have had 16 candlesup in here.
We should have, I know.
But you know what?
You know who has 16 candles?
Typically our high schoolstudents, and we haven't been
one of those in a long time, andwe're about to get to it's
mid-August, back to school, sowe're going to be telling you a
lot of our school stories, butbeforehand, I'm Kayla Becker and
(00:29):
this is, and I am Vanessa Curry, yes, so, wow, we, I think,
have learned a lot about eachother, about our school days.
Yes, the playground where Ispent most of my days Are we
going to start singing FreshPrince right now, rapping.
Yes, favorite show ever.
Oh yes, it's mid-August already.
(00:49):
I still have school-agesiblings.
I know you have a niece who'slike nine years old, yes, so
everyone's getting ready to goback to school, which?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
when I was growing up .
That was the most dreaded timefor me, Same.
The only thing I honestly likedabout going back to school was
getting new clothes.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, yeah, no, offense school.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I love, I mean I.
School is great.
All the offense, we hated youschool but I did not.
I was not a fan of school.
I mean what?
I mean there are plenty kids.
I mean my niece is a fan ofschool, she loves that, and so
I'm like good for you and we'regonna get to.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Maybe the wise behind that for sure but, like listen,
we were in elementary schooland it was an entirely different
world.
Kids these days had no ideawhat it was like growing up in
school in the 90s and the early2000s and the mid 2000s.
Like you know, today's studentsare doing homework on iPads.
No one's getting scoliosis fromcarrying heavy book bags
anymore.
(01:44):
You know, I know you're dealingwith cyberbullying nowadays.
Thank God we didn't, but wedealt with like actual bullies.
Like you know, you watch theold school movies like Mean
Girls and you know 16 Can or 13.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, have you ever seen that movie Like 13 going on
30?
No, 13.
The movie 13.
If you have not watched it, youneed to go watch it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But like, bullying is like.
Yes, and that's the thing wewere bullied, like our lunch
money actually got stolen.
I got pushed against thelockers, there were fights in
the playground and that was youknow.
That was what it was like backthen, at least for me.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, oh yeah.
No, I got into my fair share ofsituations we played dodgeball
oh and then red rover, red rover, like do they still play that
game?
Talk about we are jumping intothis.
Yeah, quicker than I thoughtyou want to talk about the game
we played on the playground.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That messed all of us up as adults and having
identity crises and dealing withnot being wanted.
Why am I dismissive of one?
I don't know.
That was the last motherfuckingperson that they chose on red
Rover.
Red Rover, red Rover, let Kaylacome over.
Never heard that.
It was like oh, game over.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Game over Red Rover and Kayla's still standing there
.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'm still here, and that's what I want you all to
know.
I'm still here, I'm still here.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's a hot start.
Yeah, obviously we are verytriggered.
We're gonna take a deep breath,just one.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, I'm going to take a sip of my water.
Yes, so that's what's in thiscup?
It's water.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Ice water, okay, oh, so refreshing Back down.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, let's talk about you.
We had very different schoolupbringings.
You were and boys get your mindout of the gutter.
She was a little catholicschool girl yes, I sure was, I
sure was everything.
Oh yeah, that's soinappropriate.
No, are you joking?
I would get in trouble for didyou double roll?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
yes, I would triple roll my skirt and then when we
got, checked you know, by ourteachers or yeah, like by our
teachers or the nuns, like it'dhave to be like a finger, your,
your middle finger.
It'd have to be like thatlength.
Then we'd all roll them down.
But yes, of course, I rolled myskirt like three times so that
(03:56):
when I would bend over you'd seemy shorts of course, obviously
I wore shorts a little, uh like,yeah, yeah, little like booty
shorts yeah, isn't it funny likeand I want to get into this
thing, but isn't it funny nowLike kids go to school in crop
tops?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I feel like dress codes are kind of like out there
.
I mean you went to a Catholicschool, but the public school
system was just as strict, atleast the one I went to.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And it's funny.
Now I see like my little niecego out.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm like yeah, oh, I mean prom.
I I see I see like girls goingto prom and I I mean I love
their fits.
But I'm also questioning wouldhave been allowed how are we
allowing people to wear?
some of these things and a slitup to your hoo-ha.
Yeah, and like girls these days, I mean, I swear like when we
were 18, 17, 18 like nobody,even if we had cleavage which
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neither one of us did but it'slike even if we had cleavage, we
weren't allowed to show it,like there was definitely
guidelines of what we wereallowed to wear and now I feel
like it's kind of a free-for-alland I'm like good for them, I
love that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But there's these girls on tikt TikTok who are
like flaunting their promdresses.
I'm assuming it's like acollege formal or something
based on the way they're dressed, uh-huh.
All right, well, okay, so youtalk about what it was like.
I don't really have.
I went to like one Catholicmass my entire life with my
friend and it was the moststressful thing I've ever done,
with all the standing andsitting and, like you know but
like I don't think I have anyfriends that I can talk to that
(05:23):
went to like a Catholic schooltaught by nuns.
What was that like?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It was well.
Here's the thing.
It was normal at the timebecause I started going to a
Catholic school in kindergarten.
So, I grew up with nuns beingeither the principal or some of
the teachers or, you know, inoffice staff, either the
principal or some of theteachers or, you know, in office
staff.
But now when I look back on it,I realize a lot of things were
(05:52):
very interesting.
You know, like I had a teacherwho happened to be a nun and was
teaching sex education, whichwas definitely interesting From
a nun.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I would like keep my eyes down to the floor.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
The entire time.
Yes, it was so interesting.
Now, as an adult, I'm like wait, how are you teaching us sex
education?
I mean some nuns have had.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think they can have sex and then they give up sex
at some point.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Or most nuns are like I thought you're not allowed to
have sexual relations as a nunor a priest, yeah sexual
relations as a nun or a priest?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, but I think once you turn into one, so maybe
they had a little experiencewith it before.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know, maybe I mean it depends, yeah, it
depends.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I guess Any nuns out there let us know, do you get
your cherry popped or not?
Where do they?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Oh my sister's going to love this episode Because my
sister went to a Catholic schooltoo.
Oh my gosh.
But no one of my like fondestmemories actually was in sex ed
with a nun I won't say her namebecause I think she might still
be teaching at the school that Iwent to um, but everyone was
(07:02):
sitting there and she's talkingabout sex and why it's bad right
now and you should wait until x, y and z and.
But then at the end of it shesays to us but if you are going
to do this, go to walmart andthey have a blue light special
and use protection.
(07:23):
I love that, that's great adviceand till this day, I'm like
wait, you were telling us not tohave sex, but then telling us
to go to Walmart because there'sa blue light.
What's a blue light special?
It's a condom.
Is it called a blue?
It's blue light condom, Like ablue light.
But it was a blue light specialon condoms.
I don't know about.
None of us did.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
We were like what the heck is that Are they still
around, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We should go to sponsor us Blue Light Condoms
please sponsor Milk and Honeys.
But it was just very confusingVery confusing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Did you feel like again all I know from
non-Catholic schools likeImmaculate, a movie you'll never
watch?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
a city.
Sweeney horror movie.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, no.
Is that?
Nuns are like hard asses andthey're mean and like very
strict.
Was that like how it was?
Like did they bring the law?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
down a lot, most of them.
Yes, I did have this oneprincipal, though, and she
actually was amazing, like hername was Sister John Ellen, and
she's still around, and I thinkI don't know if she still works
(08:33):
at the school that I went to,but she is still around and she
actually was so sweet and, youknow, would come in and do
classes, in a sense of teachingus how to like use our fork
properly.
You know what I mean Etiquetteclasses how to like eat, use our
fork properly.
You know what I mean, etiquetteclasses.
And, um, there was one timewhere, long story short, uh, we
were in class and this girlthrew a hot glue gun because we
(08:54):
had to like finish up ourproject.
So I asked her for it and soshe threw it at me.
I don't till this day, I don'tknow why, um, and it went into
my eye and so the glue likehardened on my eye and sister
john ellen took me to the er,like she did not wait for
anything she saw my eyes, shetook me to the er, called my mom
.
My mom left work, came but youknow she made sure to rush me to
(09:16):
the hospital to make sure likeI was okay and um, and I just
remember like sitting in her car, which is so crazy because it's
like at the time, like do nunsdrive, you know, but they do,
like she got, I think it waslike Toyota Corolla Do nuns
drive.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
No, no, no, but it was just like you know.
It's like you never really seethem.
I never see a nun in a car.
I'm like how are we getting?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
there in her Toyota Corolla, and it was that her
Toyota Corolla, and it was.
It was that sounds like a nuncar, yes, and so I still to this
day.
Um, if I could connect with her, I would, but besides her,
every other nun that I wastaught by, or like my sister and
I were taught by, um, yeah, itwas pretty scary Like there was
this one nun.
She was just so tall, she waslike six two and and she when
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she would get mad.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
She was like 6'2" and when she would get mad her face
would get so red it was goingto explode.
And my sister and I we stilltalk about her to this day
because she was really scary andmaybe because she was just so
big, so tall and red.
I was like um, are you sureLike, do you think like having
like a nun like that or ateacher like that?
Um has kind of framed any likethought process that you have
now as an adult, like the guiltand shame that maybe they bestow
upon you?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
at that age.
You know, I think I've done alot of work so that, no, that's
not the case for me anymore.
No, that's not the case for meanymore.
But I will say, yes, obviously,anytime I did anything or
pushed a boundary or anythinglike that, it would that guilt
does.
Or if you have like a reallyfun night with your friends and
like maybe you had some I don'tknow 40s or something like that,
(10:59):
that, but like that guilt comesback and you're like, oh, I'm
not supposed to do that if youhad sex and you're like, oh yeah
, like I'm now going to hellbecause I'm having sex, when,
like, oh, I'm not supposed to dothat.
Or if you had sex and you'relike, oh yeah, like I'm now
going to hell because, I'mhaving sex when someone's
telling me I'm not supposed tobe having sex, and so yeah, it
does.
And I know a lot of people whoare still like super religious
that went to that school and I'mfriends with a lot of them and
(11:26):
they're great people, you know,but it's just.
It is that that religious, thatCatholic guilt.
I guess people like to call itUm, but I'm sure it happens in
all formats of religion, but forme it was just we called it the
Catholic guilt because it'salways.
It's always there you know, andI mean my family always gave you
know all the money.
They donated everything thatthey could donate their time,
whatever but we never went tochurch okay, you didn't really
go to like masses, my dad wasbaptist, my mom was catholic but
(11:50):
, like, obviously, they sent usto catholic school, um, for just
the safety purposes.
You know, like, my mom grew upin san francisco and was in the
public school system and duringall the, yeah, I saw a lot that
was going on.
Yeah, she, just she, wentthrough a lot, especially as a
latin woman and a predominantly,um, a predominantly black
(12:12):
school, you know.
So, uh, I think for her it waslet's just send them there
because we know there'sprotection there, um, but, yeah,
every time we would go tochurch which would be Easter,
yeah, the good holidays, thegood holiday Our family would
walk in and the priest wouldliterally look at my family and
say, wow, it's so nice to havethe Curry family grace us with
(12:37):
their presence and you know, andthat makes us want to come back
so much more, so much more,thank you but then they're like
thank you for gracing us withyour presence.
Um, the basket money, Thank you,Thank you.
But then they're like thank youfor gracing with your presence.
The basket Money, Money.
It's just that.
Sounds about right, you know,it's just so.
Yeah, it's a very interestingworld to grow up in.
What?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
advice would you give to like young kids, young girls
especially, who maybe areentering into like the Catholic
school space?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I guess I would say Hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
What would I say to them?
And I'm sure there are positiveelements to it, of course.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Of course.
Of course I mean, like I said,I'm not very religious myself,
so I'm more spiritual, so I dotake things that I learned there
and maybe not turn it into thesame thing of how they wanted us
to see it, but I do see certainstories from the Bible that I
can relate to.
Of course, maybe notnecessarily it's something where
it's specifically thatsituation happened, but I can
see where, okay, I can use thisin my life.
(13:38):
So I think the advice I wouldgive is, when you're learning
these things from people, yourteachers, it's taking it as it
comes and using it to your lifeas it's happening.
You know so, and not takingeverything so literal, because I
do think in religion, a lot oftimes, people do take things
(14:00):
very, very literal no deviation,yeah.
And it doesn't have to be thatway.
Yeah, so that's the advice Iwould give them.
Just don't take everythingliteral, very literal.
No deviation, yeah, and itdoesn't have to be that way.
Yeah, so that's the advice Iwould give them.
Just don't take everythingliteral.
Use those stories, take themand envision them how you would
like to learn from that, to be abetter person.
And a better person doesn'tmean that you have to know the
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Bible front and back.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, supply it to your life Bible front and back.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, Supply it to your life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was acrazy.
I'm even wearing socks todaybecause I and they have holes in
them.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
This is very holy girl.
Holy girl, okay, so don't judgeme From her head, her shoulders
, her knees and her socks.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I realized that I have holes in these socks these
are one of my favorite socks.
Like growing up, we had uniform.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh, you were with the knee-high socks, right?
No, they would let us themovies.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Those are just well.
Maybe some schools it dependson like what uniform you were
given.
None of my friends I rememberfriends I remember wore like
knee-high socks, maybe likesometimes to be cute, but like
it wasn't mandatory.
But in the beginning of goingthere there was no uh uniform
for socks so what I?
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would do is wear colorful socksor patterned socks or you know,
like to show my personality alittle bit, and then I was able
to do that for maybe like two orthree years and then they put
in a guideline that we couldonly wear white, black or navy
blue socks and I was like boring, okay, and I knew it was
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because of me.
I was the only girl that reallylike wore he.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
She hiked up her skirts, wore colorful socks.
She was the rebel.
I was.
I really was.
Were you like the leader?
Do you have like other littleCatholic school girls following
you?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I wasn't the leader, but I was in a group where, like
there were leaders in thereOkay, but I definitely wasn't
the leader there was, like girls, some of my friends like
growing up, like elementary,junior, high school, that were
definitely more of a leader thanme.
Um, what are they doing nowwith their?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
lives.
Are they killing it in lifelike?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
you they are oh, I mean they're not in the
entertainment industry bullies,they were just leaders yeah,
they were just leaders.
Like you know, I'm talking about, like regina george no, no, no,
I mean, don't get me wrongthere was one time and I still
feel very bad about this how Ihandled it but I knew that there
was this girl in school who waswriting about people in our
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class how she would want them todie, wow.
So I knew that she was writingthis because I kind of saw it
sometimes like briefly, and soinstead and this is, you know,
don't do this, okay, if you'relistening.
Okay, I took her diary duringrecess and ran all the way to
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the blacktop corner and me andmy friends opened it to see
what's what was said in there,because I knew that we were all
in there.
Burn book, yes, and literally Imean some some of the ways was
like I hope so and so gets hitby lightning, or like I hope so
and so gets ran over by a car,or like food poisoning or crazy
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things.
Right granted, I should havetold a teacher first and
foremost.
I should not have taken herburn book and let all of the
girls in the class read it whoare our friends.
But at the time I was what?
In seventh grade.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think you did a service.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You were warning these people about their
potential deaths that she wasFor sure, but I definitely
should have just handed itSister John Ellen, actually was
our, our principal, so I shouldhave handed it to sister john
said hey, I don't want to stealfrom somebody.
But yeah, this girl I knowthere's things in here that we
need to address and she ended upgetting suspended and I didn't
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because I, I was honest, I saidI I'm the one that took it and I
I'm sorry, but I was reallyconcerned for my friends.
Yeah, like what we were, and itwasn't just my friend, she said
it about like so many people inthe class.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I hope she's okay to this day.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
She is I, I think we found each other like on
Facebook years ago.
Okay, and she's good.
I think she's like super open,sexually wise, like she is a
lesbian now and I think you knowshe was just struggling with
her own demons and going throughthings and her being maybe
having these feelings in aCatholic school and not being
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able to express them to anybody.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, all that pent up like shit will definitely get
you and manifest in its own way.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I understood like why ?
Now, as an adult, I understandlike she was just this, was just
her projecting um.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
She wasn't bringing a gun to school to shoot at
school.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
No, no, no but again, who like, but who would have
known?
So I mean who knows, yeah, so Ido regret I mean not not that I
regret it, I just a lot andthat was without social media,
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yeah, but this is seventh grade,so there was absolutely no
social media.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
We didn't have any of that.
Back then again, we got bulliedin real time, in real life.
I don't know what's worsebetween like cyber bullying and
like real life bullying.
I honestly think I prefer thereal life bullying Like let's
meet me in the playground andpunch me if you want to laugh
about it and then move on thenext day versus like the group
chats and like the social mediayeah, like creating the fake
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accounts and that stuff, I think.
I would like to see a studyresearch on like the suicide
rates of young kids, like thenand now, based on like cyber
bullying versus, yeah, like realbullying suicide and depression
and I feel like the cyberbullying days are way worse.
I think well, it's just youhave more time.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I'm sorry, guys, I just hit the mic um, I think you
have more time behind acomputer, yeah, to really say
what you want to say, and inperson, sometimes you get riled
up and you forget what you wantto say Back then it was like yo
mama, that's what I had to sayYo mama, You're like, don't talk
about my mama.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That literally was like the extent of our insults
to each other.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I mean in high school hindsight like in high school
when I did decide to go to likea public school for a little bit
and I had both.
I had in-person bullying andcyber bullying and they're both
pretty up there.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
They're both pretty like I was allowed to have
social media in high school.
Like I think I got a Facebooktowards the end.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
This was MySpace.
I meant MySpace.
I was allowed to have a.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
MySpace towards the end, but like so we didn't
really, I didn't really get toexperience all that.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, thankfully, yeah, no, it was bad
.
I mean it was it was not funand, like I said, I just think
they have more time to be cleverin their, in their comebacks
and create like an army.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You know, I think that's what people can do is
like again this they can freeall these people around you,
yeah, and so, like you know,sydney sweeney's of the world,
who does this ad and beforesocial media and go on like a
magazine cover and people willtalk about it, but there's
nowhere for it to go.
Now she's like laying on herbed scrolling through comments
and there's millions just sayingshe's ugly, she's whatever.
It is a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's a lot worse, I agree, I, yeah, I totally agree.
Social media it's just crazy.
It's just crazy.
But you, my friend, went tomultiple different schools.
Yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Growing up.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, I went to the same school from K through 8th
grade, okay, and then I triedgoing to a public school for two
and a half years.
Didn't work out.
Went back to private school.
Catholic school took me back,thanks, so, yeah, so I didn't.
I I've known pretty much likethe same people, yeah, kind of
my whole life, kind of you know.
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But what, what was it like foryou to be bouncing around
schools?
How many schools did youactually go to?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well between.
So I was before foster care, Iwas.
So I was fourth grade when Ientered foster care, so my first
three years of school I went toa different school every year.
So I was just like never hadfriends, never had like a place,
never had the identity.
Uh, I was in austin, texas.
There was like this big, likewell-known all-black school
called barbara jordan barbarajordan is a famous, you know
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historical black woman, and Iwas the lightest skin girl that
went there besides my littlewhite sister, erica, and felt
very out of place there becauseI again was light skin at an all
black school.
I'd try to like, talk black andbe black, which is anyway.
If you're mixed, you get it.
And then we went to this otherschool called white stone.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Enough said in the name I'm sorry, hold on, what
was it?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
called white stone.
So then I'm like oh shit, I amblack, no more.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So then I turned into the white kayla oh, did you
turn like did you turn like thewhite country?
Listen, I don't have a codeswitch like you've never seen
before.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, before I was four, oh, oh my gosh, and then I
went to, moved to the fosterhome, went to like the local
elementary school, was therefourth, fifth, sixth grade.
In sixth grade I madecheerleader.
This was like a big deal.
But then, like my two bestfriends turned on me that year,
we got into this big fight,fight on the playground.
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They were mad at me about somestupid shit.
Like I wore like sexy skinnyjeans to school.
They thought I was trying toget attention.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well, like we've talked about, you have a good
ass, so they were just jealousof your ass.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I was 12.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I had a show off my ass.
Yeah, like hello.
Homecoming court was coming up.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So my parents knew how upset I was and they're like
you know what?
There's a new Christian schoolopening up down the street, like
30 minutes on the road.
Do you want to transfer schools?
I'm like, yeah, whatever ittakes, get me out of here.
So I moved to this other schoolAgain brand new school.
It was all like in trailers.
It was almost like a trailerpark school that was funded by
the parents basically.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I just actually saw a meme yesterday that was like
they didn't even rebuild schoolsfor us.
They just put us in thesetrailer things with like the
ramps coming up.
That's literally what my schoolwas.
Yeah, that's what they did forus too.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And the best part is on the way to school.
Every day, at the gas stationnext to the school, we picked up
some fried frog legs.
So I would have fried frog legsfor breakfast.
Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
They're good.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I'll get you some fried frog legs and some boiled
peanuts.
I don't want a ribbit.
No, a ribbit.
You also have rabbit no they'rejust too cute.
I don't know, they are cuteanyway, so but then that school
was an all white school, so Iwas one of two mixed girls that
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went there and we hated eachother.
That's a whole other story.
So, yeah, I think my entirelike school was just me trying
to find my place and like notknowing where, like who I was,
or like what color I wassupposed to be or how I fit in
with these kids.
Um.
So yeah, that was that was.
That was rough, and again, itwas a Christian school.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
My chemistry teacher there, his best friend, was the
principal there and so I justfelt I was constantly in this
like, yep, this, this, this,this bubble, this did you so
when you were moving around likea lot, you said you didn't, you
weren't really able to makefriends, not really like I
always thought my very firstfriend ever, um was well, two
first friends, lauren Knight andChrissy Cleveland, um and
Arielriel wilkins actually threefriends.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
They came up to me in the fourth grade and they just
kind of like took me under thewing.
They knew about me because Iwas like this new foster kid.
Everyone knew about the fosterkids in the town again small
town and they took me.
We're still friends.
Well, me, lauren and chrissywere still friends to this day.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I was at chrissy's wedding.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
um, so yeah, that was like such a big moment, like as
a kid, like I have friends nowand it is nice to look back and
be like 25 years later I'm stilltalking to these people every
once in a while.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's the best part.
It's like regardless ofeverything that we had to go
through going to private schools.
You know it's, it is nice I get.
I still am friends with peoplethat I've known since then,
since kindergarten.
It's crazy.
Since I was five years old, likeI still am friends with people
that I've known sincekindergarten.
It's crazy.
Since I was five years old,like I still know what they're
doing.
I've gone to some of theirweddings.
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I've met their kids.
Like you know, most of themhave at least one or multiple
kids now and they're married.
And they're in school age now.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Maybe that's what's important for like people going
to school now is to like reallytry to find your little tribe.
Yes, because they, you know itcan last for a lifetime
absolutely find the right people.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Did you ever like decorate your locker?
Were you that girl or no?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think so I'm trying to remember so again.
I went to this christian schoolthat was so intensely christian
school and I think we did like,during homecoming week, we all
got to like decorate our lockersand I think I remember I've
been told a few times I wassacrilegious based on the way I
like decorated or did my finalschool project Like I did.
I did a rap.
Like I, I rapped a Christian.
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I made up a Christian rap songcalled Sipp Sipping on the word.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I still remember all the lyrics, Are you?
Can we like have a preview of?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
this.
Don't be sipping on thehaterade.
Be sipping on the word.
Be telling folks about Jesus.
Make sure everyone done heardAbout the great things he did
and how he came to die so all ofus could one day join him in
the sky.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And that is Kayla Becker, everyone.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I did a whole music video where I had all my.
I did a whole music video whereI had all my.
I got a bunch of Coca-Colabottles and we took off the
label and wrote beer on it.
So I had all my friends likedrinking beer and then did this
whole like I'm a very like thinkhinder or, like you know, like
music videos from back in theday and I thought I have it on a
disc somewhere and I rememberthe teacher, this old lady who
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was over the project, called myparents and told them to come in
to look at it.
They're like this is veryinappropriate and they're my
parents like completely defendedme.
They're like you can't tell.
Like she did the project verycreative and it was all about
like christianity and jesus.
Like I think it's okay, butlike they don't know any black
people at this school.
So they're like rap music isthe devil's music and I'm over
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here like don't be sipping onthat hater, right, Be sipping on
the word.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Oh, it's pretty catchy.
I'm not going to lie.
I mean honestly, don't besipping on the hater right, be
sipping on the word, be tellingfolks about Jesus, make sure
everyone down heard.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And then they're like , oh, snack, that's okay.
Oh, I had some backup people,so our name spelt out snack
S-N-A-C-K.
So I was like, oh, snack,that's right.
No, we don't bite.
We've been saved by the one whohas called the light.
He's been saving his people forages and ages, but people still
don't believe what's written onthe pages People been breathing
in.
I was good.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh my God, we need to record this.
I you go like viral on TikTokbecause we record and then we
come up with like a little danceand then it goes crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
It might.
You have a Christian albumSipping on the word Well, and
growing up, though, is all myparents let me listen to was
Christian music For sure, and soI loved rap and like heavy
metal, so I found rap and heavymetal Christian artists.
So I found rap and heavy metalChristian artists, so I was
inspired a lot by that.
That's amazing.
So when I put this together,that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, that right, there is amazing.
That's a little bit about me.
I'm shocked Like I'm shooketh.
Honestly, this is amazing.
I did not.
I wasn't expecting that.
I'm hot.
It's not in the rundown, it'snot even in the rundown, but she
gave it to us.
So what was the next thing wewant to?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
talk about.
Oh well anyway, but no,honestly, that was a big part of
like okay, being brown in awhite school and me leaning into
that a lot.
Yeah, did put a target on myback.
So, like people love calling melike mut was dating this
because the boys liked me.
The boys liked me because I wassomething different and their
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parents would say things to themlike if you bring her home,
there'll be two nooses waitingfor you, one for you, one for
her.
Oh my god, I had a teacher.
Actually I walked into aclassroom it wasn't my classroom
, I just walked in.
I was at an accident.
He goes hey, little black girl,get out of here.
To where the senior, like ranout, was like are you okay?
And he went to the principal onmy behalf, like it was just
such a like openly racist schoolto where I just never felt like
(30:12):
.
And this was like another mehaving a code switch again.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I'm so sorry no, I mean thank you.
No, I mean that's that no oneshould, but this is a and that's
what's funny this is achristian school exactly, and
this is how I was treated.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
It's supposed to be Christians, and like all these
things and blah blah blah.
Send me back to the publicschool please.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Do you think that like that environment like hurt
your sense of identity?
Or do you think, being in thatenvironment, you got to tell
yourself no, no, no, I knowexactly who I am.
I know that these people justdon't understand me.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I mean I think kind of both.
Like I think to this day Istill struggle a lot with it, my
identity, because I think Ijust I've never lived in a place
where I was okay, allowed to beLike.
I didn't even know I was notwhite until I was probably seven
and my sister's boyfriendcalled me the N-word and I was
like what is that?
And then I learned, oh oh, I'mactually black because all my
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siblings are white, so I justdidn't know it was different,
right.
And then um, and then yeah,having to code, switch so much,
and then I think it's helped mefigure out a lot of things.
I know exactly who I am, but Ido still find myself like being
a chameleon when I have to be,because it's so easy for me to
be and I wish it wasn't so easysometimes, like I want to just
be Kayla authentically 100% ofthe time, but I know, like how
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to.
If I'm put in a situation I canbe, like I can turn this part
on.
I can turn this part on, youknow, yeah, which it's a
blessing and a curse, but forsure you know it's yeah, I mean
work in progress.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, I think that's.
That's probably.
That is probably sometimesgoing to a school like that,
where you don't necessarilyidentify yourself as that.
Yeah, it's like you have to putthis on in order to get by and
not get in trouble for certainthings.
So, yeah, like you don't get toactually be yourself.
You know, it is weird.
Actually, now that I'm thinkingabout it too, it's like I never
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wanted to get in trouble, youknow.
So I would try and do the rightthing, yeah, but that right
thing is the right thing intheir eyes, not for you, not for
me.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, you know, like with religion, and like you said
about, like how we were taughtin, like a religious upbringing
or schools, about sex, like Iwas forced or told I had to wear
a promise ring.
So we all did this whole.
Like all the girls had to weartheir little promise ring.
Don't take it off to yourmarriage and then you give that
to the man that you're going togive your flower to.
Wow, mine came off during actprep, sixth period, when I was
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15 years old.
You know like.
But like these little, thesethings that you like are trying
to force kids to do based onreligion, like most of the time
they're gonna go against it.
It's either gonna happen atthat age or five years into
their perfect marriage whenthey're like oh, I didn't get to
live my life the way I wantedto do it, I did it based on fear
.
Right, because the religion isbased around fear.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, like organizations like that is all
based around that Right.
It's based on making sure thatwe can have these people feel
this way about this one entity.
That's it.
And if you don't do right bythis one entity, then you're
going to hell, you're doomed tohell.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's like everything is like don't like even like go
off a little.
You know path like suicide.
You know I feel like we see alot of you know it's so
unfortunate, it's really sad.
And I've dealt with mentalhealth issues.
You know we've all dealt withmental health and it's like and
Christianity, if you commitsuicide, you're doomed to hell,
right and like that's so messedup to me.
Yeah, so you mean to tell mesomeone like and that's what,
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just what you're taught, Right,and these like organizations and
it's just, or like being gaybeing gay I talked to isn't an
easy life for us, and so it'sjust so sad.
God makes no mistakes.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Well, then you're right, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
If that's the case, then leave my gay man alone.
He's going to be right up therein heaven with all of us with
the rainbow flags, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Exactly Like living it up, like living it up, living
it up, but yeah, it's just,it's a's a, it was a very.
I haven't like thought aboutthat in so long.
I just haven't thought aboutcatholic school in a very long
time.
But yeah, I mean I will say yes, safety wise, sure, yeah, I, I
appreciate it.
Um, and then also being able tosee being in a catholic
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environment, private schoolenvironment and then a public
school environment, I saw thedifference and you felt like it
was for me and you just thriveda lot better.
It's like if someone tried tojump me at my private school.
You're gone.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
You're gone.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
But in public school it's like first warning, second
warning, third warning, you getsuspended for a couple days and
then you're back.
I'm like, now you have, nowyou're back at school with this
person.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know, did you ever get suspended or in
detention or anything?
Detention yes all you can sayall the time, not all the time.
Sorry mom, maybe it was justlike you know it's funny.
You know it's funny, yes I canyou already know what it is?
Talking too much and um Clothes.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Just one other Clothes, not so much Skipping
class, making out with boys inthe wait.
Were there boys there?
No, no, I mean, yes, there were.
Okay, there were plenty of boysthere.
I actually like had, I think,my first kiss at like daycare.
I was like after school daycare.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
We played spin the bottle, this, this with a
coca-cola, with like a can't goin daycare, yeah, we would go to
like to the corner of the blacktop of the basketball top oh so
black top is like it's.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
They had many different, like basketball
courts okay, and it's.
It's a black, it's like a, likea black cement, so we would
call it the black top, okay?
So, yes, that's what I meanwhen I'm saying black top.
It's not anything having to dowith racial anything.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I didn't think that at all.
No, I know, but just for ouraudiences.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
That's not what I'm saying.
But yes, we would go to thecorner of the blacktop and we
would take like our little canand we would play spin the
bottle, oh my.
You know because they didn'tknow, we were just sitting in a
circle.
They probably thought we weredoing kumbaya or prayer circle.
No, we weren't doing a prayercircle, we were playing spin the
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block.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Oh my Wait, okay.
So what did you do?
Detention for, though.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I didn't.
Most of it was for being late,Tardy.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Which hello.
That's why I was like, why Iknow, like it's like a I'm
getting better.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Even today, I was only five minutes late.
I was only five minutes late,you guys, I was, and I'm getting
better, I'm getting better.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
This time next year she'll be only two minutes late.
No, this time next year.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I will be on time.
I'm going to be 15 minutesearly.
I'm going to be like Kayla,almost there.
I'm like okay, great, I'm here.
I'm sitting at the table.
Yeah, like, where are you?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I have our wine ready and I'm such a stickler for
time, like it's like to a fault,like it's too bad, like it's-.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
No, but my all my friends, every friend in my life
, none of them are ever on time.
Make sure I'm like I thinkabout parking and traffic, Like
my brain is just like that.
Yeah, If someone is late, oh, Iknow I've had dates show up
like five minutes late or saythey're five minutes late.
I'm like you missed me, I'msorry.
She's like sorry, I'm gone Iknow it was LA traffic rush hour
, but you missed me.
I calculated it.
(37:22):
I calculated what time to gethere.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Why can't you?
Oh my gosh.
But yeah, that's probably why.
But I wasn't.
I wasn't like a troublemaker,in a sense of I was always
getting in trouble like were youI don't think you know, I got
like so we had um funny.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
They called it ass.
What is that?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
after school suspension ass, ass you
literally had to go to ass youhad.
You're going to ask you nameafter school.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, that's in, but it was always for talking and
much.
And was this at your Christianschool?
I think?
Actually, I think we, oh, Ithink we had ASS at the public
school, okay, but ISS at Inschool, suspension at the
Christian school, which?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
sounds a little close .
Anyway, Like hello, just callit detention?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I don't, we didn't.
No one ever called it thatthere.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, it was Interesting, but mine was always
for like talking too much, likeI disturbed the class and I'm
always like, oh well, it's funny, I turned that into a career
because now I get paid to talk alot.
Yeah, back then they'd move mydesk outside into the hallway
(38:25):
and I'd have to stay there for,like my teachers, I mean, at
least detention was like afterschool.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I wasn't missing school to go to detention.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I mean what kid was mad that we were missing class.
Right, that's what's in schoolsuspension During school hours.
We have to go to ISS and I'mlike this in this math class?
Yeah, oh no, when you have yourphones, because we didn't have
phones, so we're just likedrawing those like Drawing like
a one, two, three the S's, ordoing that game where, like you,
(38:53):
mash, oh my gosh Mash.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I know I don't remember.
You're going to marry, likeyour something, spouse and then
house.
What was the A?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I don't remember Was it like car Automotive Like
automobile.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So it was like MASH, who you're gonna marry what?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
car you're gonna drive.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Who you're gonna.
It's your spouse.
No, because Mary is spouse.
Oh, you're right.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
S We'll have to like, if we're gonna look this up,
maybe we should play MASH.
Oh, career, career.
What has that s?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I don't remember we'll look it up like what's the
action.
Yeah, hold on.
What is the s bother me?
What?
Okay, what is the s in mashgame shack?
Okay, wait so mansion apartment, shack house, oh, so it was
just like no, it's just whatyou're gonna end up in.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
A mansion, oh wait, no Living situation spouse
number of kids, yeah, but I feellike it was marriage,
automobile shack, I don'tremember.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
So yeah, it was job car city number of kids.
Oh wait mansion apartment.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh no, because you did, and that was just about
what home you were going to bein.
Then you had to do all theseside ones.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Okay, got it, got it.
We should play next.
We should do this.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
We'll post this on our social media.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, yeah, we'll do a MASH for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Wait, do you know what a medium and a bad, yeah,
subcategory.
And then you pick numbers andgo around and around and around.
Okay, we'll have to play withyou.
Yeah, yeah, because Alex he'shelping us.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Mash was so fun it was, but yeah, that's all we had
.
We would literally do or writenotes to your crush, right?
Oh, yes, I wrote notes, wouldliterally write to.
I still have them.
I have a little box of notes Ithe most of them were with my
(40:51):
friend, kayla Costas, and we'dcall each other pookie and so
like I have so many notes withher and it would just be like
two pookie from pookie and itwould be talking about things
that we already talked aboutlike yeah, yeah, it was like
texting and snapchat back then,which now, like, no one writes
notes and snapchat and you hadto run the risk of getting your
note confiscated by a teacherand then they read it in front
of the class, which happened tome way too many times.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yes, oh, I miss those days.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I know I do, but I don't like I do but I don't.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
If we were starting school like now in 2025, what
would be your biggest fear?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
social media.
Yeah, that would be my biggestfear.
It.
I think I think there's so muchpressure on kids these days.
Um, like even my niece, who'snine, she wants to put stuff.
You know, she wants to likealways film stuff and post it
and I think she would be reallycute on it and fun on it.
But it there is obviously mysister, my brother-in-law are
(41:47):
very protective over her and andmy other niece also, but
obviously Ellie's like nine, soshe's a little older and you
know, anytime she's with me, sheknows that's what I do for a
part of my living and so shealways wants to film stuff.
And I remember us doing a liveon TikTok about brushing her
hair and I remember someonesaying something not necessarily
(42:12):
bad about her, but like, justlike something negative, and I
wanted to kill this personthrough the screen and I
realized, oh shit, like this,this is just what it is.
Even with a nine-year-old,people are still gonna have some
shit to say which is insane tome so I think yeah, what about
you?
I mean probably the same thing.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, like I'm.
I'm a, you know, I'm asensitive gangster, as they call
.
Like I, you know, try to playhard, but the stuff on social
media is still like.
Today I posted a thing like hey, our legacy video.
I was like hey, how do you wantto like leave your legacy?
And someone responded like tonot have shit stains all over my
face like you, because, likethis guy, he always comes after
me about my freckles.
He's so offended by freckles wow, that is um, but initially I
(42:56):
wanted to respond I'm like.
But then why?
Like, yeah, I think I get morecompliments on my freckles than
anything else.
I know it was a bit as a kid.
It was my biggest insecuritywhere, like, I wanted them to go
away.
They weren't trendy back then.
Now people are paying to putthem on their face, right, but
like, I don't know if I was akid and got comments like that
how I would handle it, like Iyou know it would have been
really tough and I'm glad wedidn't have that uh back then
(43:18):
okay, uh, what advice do we givekids who maybe feel different
at school?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I think we both went through that feeling different
at school that's such a hard one, because I would want to say
just own it and know that we'reall special individually and so
that that maybe different thingthat you do have is probably
(43:43):
what's going to make you a lotof money down the line.
Exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Like all the different nerds, weirdos, ones
who are made fun of.
Use that as your motivation andjust take over the world to
where, like, when you go home,they're like wanting to see you
or take a photo with you or bragabout the fact that they went
to school with you, whilethey're sitting on their couch
300 overweight with, yeah, fourbaby daddies.
Yeah, personal experience.
Yeah, saying everybody's likethat, but yeah, like, own it,
(44:08):
make it in, yeah yeah, I meanmake your life out, even even
like having.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I've had a big butt my entire life ever since I was
little and people damn it.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
No, but it's like I used to want it to go away.
I know Back then before theKardashians were around.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, like I wanted my butt.
I was like I hate my butt andda, da, da, da.
Like it's like you know, peoplealways make comments on it.
And now I'm like, and then it'slike some people get offended
when I show off my butt.
I'm like, bro, hater, bejealous, like it's okay, but
(44:47):
that is crazy to me.
Like I used to just hate my notmy body totally, but my body,
yeah, like that.
It's always been there.
I've always had a butt and it'sjust and it's funny.
It's like when the kardashiansobviously started becoming a
thing back in the day, peoplewould ask me if my butt was real
or not, and I would be sooffended but just like taking it
(45:10):
back Like what, Like wait, LikeI didn't even understand that
that was a thing.
Yeah, and I'm like, well, if youlook at my seven-year-old
photos.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I've always had this little bubble butt, like always.
My seven-year-old photos.
I always had this little bubblebutt, like always.
It is funny how things likethat that you were bullied for,
that I was bullied for now arelike.
I'm sure you still get asked.
I got stopped on Sunset andsomeone was like oh my god, I
love your freckles.
What did you get them done?
And I'm like what, like what?
Yes, and our asses.
(45:40):
I from my dad's side, okay, notfrom my mama's side.
My mom's side of the family,they have no butts.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Thanks daddy.
Yeah, except for actually mycousin Carlotta.
She has a big ass too.
So we were the big booty girlslike me, my sister, and my
cousin.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Everyone was mad like y'all took it all.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, everyone else had no ass except for my dad's
side.
Else had no ass except for mydad's side.
They all had big booty, bigjuicy butts and I'm like, thank
you, thank you all, my BatonRouge family.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Okay, before we go, wait, no, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
No, I was going to ask you.
No, no, no, no go.
I forgot, here we go.
This is what happens.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I was going to rapid fire.
I don't know the answers to allof this, but okay, if we had to
go through having number twopencils and erasers versus iPads
what would you prefer havingwhen you were growing up?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I love writing on paper and that's probably
because I'm a millennial, but I,oh God.
But now, if I had an iPad back,then I know I just love.
I love the feeling of like apen to paper or paper pencil to
paper.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I got issued sentences all the time.
Growing up I had to write likea hundred two hundred sentences,
if I could.
Just you can't really do thatwith someone with an iPad.
Now you just copy and paste, doyou?
Have to do kids still writesentences?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I don't.
Yes, they do.
I was trying to think if I'veseen my niece yes, she writes,
and she still writes yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
But let me like sentence it like as a punishment
.
No, you don't remember doingthat?
I don't think so.
Did you do that?
Yes, okay, do you know what itis?
I know what it is.
So, kids, don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, maybe that is the punishment though Maybe they
do.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, okay, yeah, carrie.
Haley books versus notes,versus Snapchat Passing notes.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
There's something so sweet about that.
There's so sweet about likemaking it into a little triangle
or something and like flickingit across the room.
A little frog, yeah, yeah, like, just like, like got it.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Or just like knowing Pass that over.
Yeah, pass it over three rows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah don't know.
Yeah, I like snapchat is stillscary too to me, because in the
beginning, especially when itwas like when there's a big leak
that's when I deleted mine backin 2012, 2012 I mean we should
get back on it.
People are like making moneyoff that shit I didn't even know
you could do that.
Yes, I think.
I don't know.
I think there's an age I don'tfuck.
(47:53):
I think I'm too old to be onsnapchat.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I don't think so I'm gonna you do it.
Let me know how it goes for you.
Okay, I did try for like asecond for like a couple of days
and I was like I'm just tired.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I wouldn't date a guy who was on a Snapchat, because
I don't trust it.
I feel like people be sendinglike some sketchy shit they do.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, no, they for sure do, especially when it
first came out.
It's like yeah, you people weresending nudes left and right
because it's gonna go away.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Nothing goes.
You can screenshot it in theuniverse of the internet, it
never goes away all right, beingcalled up to the board, which I
hate it, especially like I hadreally bad sweat issues when I
was younger, like I was atsweaty armpits and then you have
to go up to the board and writeand yeah, come, finish the math
problem versus, like now, youknow, zoom school during covid I
(48:42):
would have begged my parents tobe, uh, in a zoom school, right
.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I would have begged them because I I danced right,
so I had a community.
It's not like I would have beenthis like homeschool jungle
freak.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, you know I.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
There's nothing wrong with homeschool, oh no, no, but
I'm just I'm quoting mean girlsif you don't know, okay, but
there is a stigma, but there's astigma behind it, but I still,
to this day, like my sister andI talk about it Like we would
have been fine beinghomeschooled?
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, because you had other people and friends.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Especially if there was Zoom involved.
Like you know back in yeahwhich I would have much rather
of that, because I had anxiety.
You asked me a question that Ialready know, like what research
(49:33):
is, and like I get so anxiousin front of people.
Sometimes I forget the answerand in Zoom I feel like, oh, oh,
I'm in my own space, it's, I'msafe and I can say it and even
if they laugh at me, whatever,like.
I can't really see them turncamera off.
Yes, exactly okay.
Detention versus cancel culture, that's an easy one attention
(49:54):
detention I would.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
I would be in detention every day as an adult,
as a grown-up.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Please put me in detention yeah please tell me, I
cannot go to work and let meknow like I will pass out.
You won't even know.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I'll like take a little nap on the desk, no
problemo.
Turn the lights out, did youever?
Speaker 2 (50:13):
did you ever take naps like that and then all of a
sudden, you, no, no, I wouldtwitch.
And then what I would do inclass is I would twitch and be
like what I wasn't asleep, no,you knew I was asleep.
No, I was like I'm good, myteachers would slam the ruler on
the desk and just yeah, no, Allright.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Recess drama versus group chat leaks.
Again, I said it earlier Recessdrama.
I'd rather face-to-facebullying versus the cyber
bullying stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I'd rather have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, or just punch me in the face once and let's
move on.
And then uniforms versus, youknow, being cute and aesthetic
and having to like, figure outyour outfits and don't wear
skinny jeans at school, yourfriends are gonna be mad at you.
Or you just come to school allin the same uniform and then you
can't really get made fun of.
I actually think I wish I hadthat option.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong Like I love being
aesthetically pleasing in anyway I can, but I do think I was
tired.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
I did not want to have to think about my outfit.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
And every night before.
I had to like pick out myoutfit for school, I would
rather have a uniform, like Iknew I was wearing this skirt,
this, this sweater, or thesepants, this top, this sweater
and these shoes, whereas my highschool it was semi-uniform.
So it was like you had to wearkhaki pants.
You could wear any color, uh uh, collared shirt, but it'd have
(51:36):
to be collared shirt like.
So then you're spending moneyto wear back to school clothes
that like you don't really wantto wear, like.
I don't even remember the lasttime I've worn a collared shirt
because like, or like thosekhaki pants, because it's just
like it's.
It's one of those things whereand then we would all show up
wearing like kind of the samething.
I mean, me and my best friendwould show up literally in the
(51:56):
same thing.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Sometimes it'd be hilarious we talk to the same
air apostle.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, yeah, uh, air apostle hollister and
abercrombie, yeah, but like itcouldn't have abercrombie, it
could have the little yeah, bird, but it couldn't have the full
name that was so, not fetch yeahabsolutely not.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Um, all right.
Well, guys, that's a little bitof our uh.
We made school sound really bad.
We didn't mean to, but it's one.
Like you know, this is whatwe're just venting I haven't had
a good vince session aboutgrowing up in a school that I
grew up in a while, so andhonestly like shout out to my
sister, because she was the onetelling me you guys should talk
about back to school because she, you know she's dealt with this
(52:34):
a lot too, so she understands.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Oh well, do we have?
Speaker 1 (52:36):
any final words to this new generation going back
to school right now.
Like you said, own your shit,do the work, don't try to dumb
yourself down to seem cool,because that was really thing I
think, yeah, I, I think that'sover, though, thank goodness
yeah, like being dumb.
Being dumb is it like cuteanymore, I think.
I think being smart is like thenew is the new?
I mean, I used to like I wouldfail a test back then because I
(52:58):
got like bullied for being thesmart kid in class.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
I wish I was bullied for being smart.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
No, I did my homework , but I got like.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
C's Like I said, if I got a.
C on a test.
I'm not a good test taker,unfortunately so that's OK.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, that's a test.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
And also, you know we wanted to give a shout out to
Jay Balvin.
You know he's giving back tothe Latin community through his
Vibra and Alta Foundation, whichfocuses on education and
empowerment for the Colombianyouth, and I just think that's
really cool.
I don't think a lot of peopleare talking about it, but he
deserves his flowers because hereally has taken a stance on
(53:37):
trying to make a difference,especially from where he comes
from, but not only from where hecomes from, but shedding light
on that with children all aroundthe world, and so I just think
that's really cool.
And it's nice to see celebs whotake the time to give back, and
we know that they're extremelybusy and their schedules are
scheduling.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
I want to focus on, like the education of youth and,
I think, celebrities who dotake that route.
He probably has some storiesabout growing up, you know, as
as as a, you know, kid, in thiseducation system that we've had
for the last several years.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
So, yes, kudos, so kudos.
Thank you, Jay Balvin.
Thank you for trying to changethat and uh, you know, here we
go.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
You, I'm sure J Balvin, drinks tea and if he was
drinking tea, we're going torun into it.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
He would be using the best ingredients, which would
be Vanessa Curry, myself andKayla Becker, and he would have
the perfect tasting tea.
So on that note we will see youguys next time.
Bye, bye.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Have fun in school, kids, don't do drugs, don't do
drugs.
Oh God, dare, dare.
We should have gone in thatroute.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
Oh fuck, we should have talked about dare I have
that thing?
We're so good.
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