This week on Milk & Honeys, your favorite duo Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry are joined by the ever-charming, always hilarious Scott Evans! We kick things off with some rapid-fire fun, dive into hot topics from the Barbie phenomenon to Hollywood chaos, and then get real about Scott’s journey—from early auditions to stealing scenes in Netflix’s new hit series Running Point.
Of course, it wouldn’t be a Milk & Honeys episode without a little chaos, so stick around for a juicy round of Sip or Spill, where Scott dishes on everything from celeb crushes and awkward after party interactions.
It’s unfiltered, unexpected, and completely unforgettable.
Press play, pour a glass, and get into it. 💋
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
all right, everybody, welcome back to another episode
of milk and honeys.
We're your hosts, kayla beckerand, of course, the lovely yes,
and so we're excited you guysare joining us, uh, on this
adventure.
Even more exciting is thatwe're actually, uh, introducing
our first guest on the show.
Um, he's over here to my left.
You just heard him.
(00:32):
Everybody this is the one andonly scott evans.
It's funny you say that becauseit's not the one and only what's
funny about that is I wastalking to my manager and he was
like yeah, we represent scottevans.
I'm like oh my god, I lovescott evans.
He was yeah no, he used to workin like broadcast television.
I was like, oh my god, I've gotto talk to my friend scott about
the fact he started in mycareer and now, look at him now,
(00:53):
and it didn't hit me until kindof recently like, oh, the other
scott evans we will show up atevents and they'll be like I'll
make scott evans and I'll see onthe sheet his picture.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'll be like well, literally.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I was like what kind of like you know treatment does
my friend scott evans get?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
because this is not, oh I got an invite to duane wade
and gabrielle union's oscarsafter party and I said to my
manager I go, you might want toreply and just clarify.
And I never heard back allright.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Can you imagine if I showed up, you should, we didn't
invite?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
you.
You're like, you're not Scott.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Evans Nope, you're the white one, you're the white
one.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, scott, I really appreciate you coming on and
doing this, of course, I know wehaven't gotten to see each
other a lot lately, but I'm sofreaking proud of you.
How has life been.
I mean, I feel like I know theanswer to that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, I mean, since the show came out, it's been
incredible.
But the industry is kind of amess, right now.
It's been tough, but listen theresponse to the show makes me
feel good.
It got picked up for season two.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yes, I know, I don't know if that means me, but my
phone's on.
We manifested that it is that'swhat my boyfriend said last
night.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He said stop putting out the negative energy,
manifest it out.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We're going to get into that in a minute, but I
thought we'd kick things offwith just a rapid fire, just so
people can get to know you alittle bit better, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, so we're going to run out.
You ready for this?
Vanessa, you want to kick it?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
off?
Sure Okay, and you can't.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Before you the first question you can't Not your own
Favorite guilty pleasure.
Oh oh, I was like, not my own,like recently, oh God, a show or
movie?
I am embarrassed Well.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm not.
Yes, we want that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I just watched the show CSEE with Jason Momoa on
Apple TV and I was like is thisgoing to be like ridiculous?
I loved it, I like, loved itand I don like is this going to
be ridiculous?
I loved it I loved it and Idon't.
Well, I won't say too much, butI really loved it and it got
canceled.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It did.
Okay, I saw it advertised whenit first came out.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I never got around to it.
I'm like do more.
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, good, Okay next one Go-to karaoke song Faith,
George Michael or the thong songthat only gets people going.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Don't do ignition by.
It's a horrible karaoke song.
I tried one time.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I want to see that maybe later today we'll get you
to do that next questionweirdest fan interaction.
I want to see that in real time.
Maybe later today We'll get youto do that.
That's the episode.
Patreon that would cost you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, next question Weirdest fan interaction Cringe
funny.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, you know what?
When I was on a soap opera forfour years back, in the day like
one of my first jobs.
Those fans they don't separateLike they can't separate that
you are playing a character.
Any interaction I'd have in newyork on the subway they'd be
like yo, you're fish, you're onmy show, don't do that to leila
(03:51):
and I'd be like I.
I didn't.
I didn't do that to leila.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's not I don't know , I have no idea, but yeah
people will ask advice likeabout like the law because I
played a cop.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm like sweetie the only thing I know about the law
is getting arrested.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I DM you like hey, I just got pulled over for a
ticket.
Like how can I get out of this?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I did get a piece of fan mail once asking for feed
pictures.
No, and I didn't send.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But like now people they offer a high dollar for
that.
I mean, I consider it.
Sometimes I do too, but then Ilook at my feet, I would make
nothing.
You'd make no money.
My feet are not great, okay,last thing, this is a dumb one,
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Celebrity crush growing up.
Well, vocally, because I was inthe closet, I would say, like
Sandra Bullock, I was a bigHelen Hunt, meg Ryan fan.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But the people that I loved growing up was a young
Stanley Tucci, Rick.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Moranis.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Giovanni Ribisi Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Which they're all very short and I think that is.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Was Larry David on that list.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm kidding, he's actually one of my celebrity
crushes.
I love me a Larry David, I know.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
If you're listening, Larry.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We'll bring you on the show.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thank, you Come.
She're listening, larry, we'llbring you on the show.
Thank you, come, she loves you.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Larry, in both ways, just kidding.
Okay, you're All right, we'regoing to get back on track, back
on track.
We're five minutes into theshow.
Okay, your go-to comfort food.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Specifically.
I mean my favorite food is soup, which is a crazy.
She makes a great soup a crazyI love.
I want to open up a soup placecalled you make me want a soup
soup we'll be your firstcustomers.
Yes, oh, trust me well in la.
It's like people are, like wedon't want that, but then in the
(05:43):
summer it could be.
You make me want a scoop.
And then you have an ice creamspinoff, but I don't know how to
make ice cream, oh, but yeah, Iwould say a bowl of soup,
probably French and green.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, okay, Cute.
What's your most used emojiwhen you're texting your friends
?
The one that it's like parentswho said the laughing crying
emoji.
When you say my dog just died,they're like oh, this is crying
(06:11):
because there's tears coming out.
They're like dying laughing.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Turning into the puddle one.
What's that?
I use that one all the time.
I don't really have the onethat's like.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Someone's like what did you do last night?
I'm like puddle, like a littleembarrassed.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay, that's I think it's embarrassed.
Okay, yeah, I think it'sembarrassed.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But I also sometimes I'm not gonna lie I do send it
when it's like, oh man, like youjust can't take it anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You're like melting in the situation there's some
specific ones that like youreally need like that they don't
have.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't know what they are, but no, they there are
.
There are also.
I don't know acronyms but likeyeah, or like people will say
them and I'll have to Googlethem.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I do that a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Immediately.
Well, I can actually admit thatG-R-W-N which is or no?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
N, which is get ready with me.
Wow, I was like great, really Iused to think it was grown
woman.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh, wow, like grown woman that was a journey to get
to that.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, it was not it well, I won't say what I thought
SMH was what was that?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I think I can get exactly what you meant horrible
horrible okay, hold up, okay.
Next, what was the firstconcert you ever?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
sorry, I skipped what's the first concert you
ever attended the first threeconcerts I ever attended were
the same and it was oh, I'mgonna age myself it was the
monkeys okay, I'm not like ahuge concert person, but I will
say the last concert I went towas Avril Levine okay, when was
that she's?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
your last year right she's my number one really, I
love her so much I went to awedding with her one.
I know Josh is like oh yeah, Iwas like sitting like waiting to
order our burgers at this foodtruck and I was trying to act so
cool, like your name is what isit, avril Like trying to act
like.
Oh, I'm so cool, avril.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Oh, I was in Vegas with we were like with the same
group and doing shots and PerezHilton had just posted something
really like dragging her andsaying people hate her music.
And we were so drunk and I wentout to her I was like hey'm
like that didn't come out right.
I know everybody hates yourmusic.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And that one time you have that conversation with
somebody you admire.
That's how it turns out, ofcourse, of course, two more.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, next one Dream vacation spots that you haven't
been to Italy.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Or no, I'm going to say Holland, the Tula Fields, oh
yeah, that's what heaven lookslike when I die.
That's what I want to like.
I want to live there, disappear, put me in the mountains, get
me out of here.
Yes.
Get me out of here.
Put me in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And then one final one what is an embarrassing
onset moment that maybe you'vehad in your career?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Maybe you never had one because you're very put
together and cool and collectedall the time, right?
Um, personally, well, it wasembarrassing for me because it
was kind of secondhandembarrassment I was doing a
thing with somebody.
Oh, I don't know how to makethis not obvious, but I will say
I was I oh well, here it is.
We were interacting in a scene.
It wasn't even a sexual thing,but he was in underwear and I
was.
There was a struggle happeningand he got okay, excited, yes,
(09:12):
and it was like we had to cut.
It was like very.
I got more embarrassed than hedid.
He was like fine with it and Iwas just like me was that a
recent role?
No.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, I was trying to piece it together.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We're going to let our audiences piece that one
together, but in turn.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I was kind of like this is so hot If there wasn't
150 people here.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Very flattering though.
Well, I wanted everyone whodoesn't know you to kind of get
a little bit of a sense of ofyour personality and the things
you like and you dislike.
But you have had especially thelast couple of years for you
have been probably like aninsane rollercoaster with your
career.
You've been in the industry fora long time.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But going back to the very beginning, you know, I
know acting, it kind of runs inyour family a little bit, but
what drew you to it?
Like what was the beginning?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
yeah, it's um, I, I tell you, if, uh, if, there was
youtube or instagram back when,back in my day growing up, my
family probably would have beensome sort of partridge family,
like ready bunch von traps,whatever we all got like, we
were all super into it.
My, my brother and I kind offell into it, more so because my
(10:21):
older sister was doing it andmy mother was like it was easier
to carpool everyone to the sameactivity after school.
So we kind of fell into it moreso because my older sister was
doing it and my mother was likeit was easier to carpool
everyone to the same activityafter school.
So we kind of just like fellinto it and then and then, like
you, become very popular withgirls, which I thought was a
good thing when you're a boy whocan sing, and that was like.
I was like oh, I like this.
And then, when I was applyingto college, I didn't have the
(10:42):
best grades in high schoolbecause I didn't believe in
homework so I did well on tests,horrible homework, so I wanted
to get into a good school and Iwas like I'll audition no boys
are singing.
And so I got into a school.
I guess that I did deserve.
But yeah, and then it just kindof, you know, it became a thing
that I fell in love with.
And here we are and now it'slike torture.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It's like all that whole life, it's just hard the
rejection is so well.
Yeah, we wanted to definitelyget into the nose story
absolutely the nose, the nose.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Everyone always asks me too.
It's like how do you not hearseven nose in a row and keep
going and it's hard, it's sevenin a row, you know?
Just to be specific, yeah yeah,and that is a small streak.
Okay, usually there's a lotmore, but let's just give it a
number, like in a row there's somany no's in a row and you have
(11:36):
to remember that, like thisisn't necessarily because of my
talent, it's just.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It is what it is, it's the, it's the part of the
game yeah, it's a part of thegame and the problem with it is
is like sometimes it's like youknow it's casting directors.
A lot of the time it's sort oflike hey, did we say to my
manager or agent, did we get anylike feedback?
Did they say anything?
What's happening with that?
Uh, no, no feedback.
It's like they don't have timefor feedback, but like it really
(12:01):
would take two seconds if youthought somebody did well, to be
like he did great.
It's just not somethingdifferent.
I can't tell you how many timesI've lost things out, lost
parts up in the final two forthings, and it's literally has
nothing to do.
A lot of the time now itdoesn't have anything to do with
talent, it comes down to a look, a look, a social media
(12:24):
following now.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And it's just Maya Hawke.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Ethan Hawke's daughter.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It was coming up and I was like well, yeah, that's
fine.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But yeah, it's sad, it doesn't talent people get so
discouraged.
I know so many people that Iwent to school with and actor
friends that are just notpursuing it anymore because it's
hard to maintain to if you'renot.
You know, getting one job ayear sometimes can sustain you
for the year.
(12:53):
But like a lot of the time, it'sjust not enough and then, when
you're doing like the waitingtables, jobs and stuff, like the
bartending which I've doneplenty of, which is a nightmare,
it's just you start to feellike you're not worth anything
and it's like when you knowyou're good and it's not working
out, there's nothing you can do.
(13:13):
It's such a game and you seethe same people getting things
and all of a sudden, there's norhyme or reason to it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It's hard to understand.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Well, it's like one day you can.
And what actually is veryencouraging is when you see
older actors and actresses.
All of a sudden you're likewhere has this person been?
Like they're great, they've hadlike small jobs forever.
And then, finally, are youwatching Paradise?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I loved it.
Jan Nicholson who plays.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Sinatra.
I know she's like worked forforever, but when Mare of
Easttown she was on that I waslike I never.
I was like I never.
I was like she is in fuckingcredible.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And it's just like you see these people and it's
like you think it's kind ofencouraging, though, to see that
.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
OK, it may take a lot longer than I had in my plan,
but you're seeing these.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Absolutely.
Yeah Well, you always.
There's all these articles.
It's like you know, harrisonFord didn't get his first job
till he's 40.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oprah Right.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Harrison Ford didn't get his first job until he was
40.
Oprah did, and they'll say thatand it's like that's fine.
It's just harder now,especially because there's so
many people.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I think it's harder now to make it versus back then.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, in 2000, you were going up for a role against
20, 30, 40 people Yep.
Now I'll get an audition forone line on something to play a
bellhop and they'll bring in 200people.
Now I'll get an audition forlike one line on something like
to play like a bell hop andthey'll bring in 200 people.
And especially now where it'snot.
You're going into a castingroom now with self-tapes.
Anyone can do it anywhere Overthe pandemic.
(14:35):
When self-tapes happened, I wasscrewed.
I didn't have like a home setup.
I didn't have.
I don't have actor friends,cause I would never be friends
with an actor these people thatwere able to live in their
apartments with their roommatesand spend four days getting the
perfect take, when I would haveto pay for a half hour slot and
do an audition with somebody Ididn't know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Right.
So it's just like it's a lotand it's better for me
personally.
I know it's a little bit morenerve wracking maybe to get into
a room with you know, like thecasting director and someone
handling the camera and all thatstuff, but at the end of the
(15:15):
day I've realized as an actorlike I enjoy feeling that human
connection in the room.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, way easier.
Even having a reader doesn'tlike that.
Call your friend to come overor call I have my friend on like
speakerphone.
Reading from like this is liketerrible 100%.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's just not the same manager, like when the
pandemic was happening in selftapes he's like.
He said flat out I'm like youdidn't have to say that to me.
He was like this is gonnareally affect you because you
win people over in a room and Iwas like thanks, okay, now I'm
going to do this with even moreconfidence because my
personality.
But now I have steve, I have aboyfriend that does it for me.
He what a saint I'll bewatching takes back.
I'm like I said that I treatedhim like that babe, I love you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm sorry we love the supportive significant others
that I was in Tokyo and I had todo a self tape and I'm like,
babe, I need you to hold thisright here.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Okay, exactly talk to me, but don't flip it this.
I need you to hold this righthere, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Exactly.
Talk to me, but don't, don't,don't flip it this way.
I need you to hold it a littlebit like this Okay so.
I can still see it.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, he's getting used to it now.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Now he has like notes .
Now he like is acting.
I'm just like you know, whenyou have friends or people that
don't know you, they're justlike oh, you can't get a job,
you can't book anything.
Steve like he sees it, he'slike I see the struggle, what
you go through, the work you putinto things and you don't see a
dime for, like the work thatyou put in for an audition to
(16:40):
self-tape.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And it only just happened where they have to give
you 72 hours notice now andthey still don't.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
They still don't and they're like sorry, we know it's
fast and it's like okay, youknow, you know, you said sorry.
And it's like, if you say, well, no, I'm gonna do the 72 hours,
Somebody else will tape itbefore you and they'll choose
them.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, but then they can hold you for, like you know,
five days and they're likeyou're only going to work one of
those days, but you have tohold all five.
And then sometimes you're like,okay, great, and then you get a
message saying you've beenreleased.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I did a job where it was going to be one day of work
and they asked me for conflictsbetween after Thanksgiving to
May of this year and they werelike can we put him on hold for
those months, for one day?
They're like it's probablygoing to be December and we were
like granted, I don't haveanything else coming in, so yes,
but crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, like I said, you had a really awesome like
year or so with, obviously,barbie.
When did you feel like again,your career has gone back for
many, many years?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
that you felt like oh shit, okay, I'm making it like
I'm, I'm catching my stride.
Was it Barbie or was evenbefore that?
Um, you know, I, I it's just,it's like I poor me.
I feel weird saying this, butlike you still, I still don't
necessarily like feel it.
I feel like I am lucky that Iam able to pay the bills with
(18:00):
this job.
Like I don't know what isconsidered making it, but I
think that is what I considermaking it in order to like pay
the bills um, but barbie waslike.
Barbie was the most insane caseof imposter syndrome like I've
ever felt, like really nearmental breakdowns, like almost
every day flying to london to doit.
(18:21):
I was just the whole plane ride.
I was like I am going to arriveand get fired on this mob.
They're gonna be to be like, oh, you know, that's, that's not
it Every day.
There were days we'd be sittingin the cast chairs and because
everybody that was in that was,like, you know, successful, had
their own shows, had thingscoming up and all this stuff.
And I'm sitting there, we'regoing around one day like, oh,
what does everyone havehappening after this?
(18:41):
And people I don't know.
I was like, oh, just you know, Iguess I hope this never ends,
yeah, but yeah, being on thatbeing on that set, and you know
the days that the impostersyndrome I could keep it a day.
It was just like I can'tbelieve how lucky I am.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Did you get, when you got the call that you got the
role, did you?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
do you think you were being?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
punked at first, or I have not cried that hard in a
long time, oh, a long time well,because I had auditioned for it
.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It was like super bowl sunday 2022 yes and I our
super bowl weekend and on friday, again, not 72 hours notice I
got the barbie audition and anaudition for this apple tv pilot
that I was like I'm not goingto get Barbie, like I'm not,
I'll focus on that, but theywere both through Sunday.
I'm not going to get Barbie,I'll focus on the pilot Cause
like.
I can do this part.
(19:36):
So we got up Sunday morning,steve, I was having people over
at the Superbowl.
We taped both auditions thatmorning, submitted them Heard,
heard nothing.
A month later I got a call inthe morning that was like Greta
wants to know if you'reavailable for a meeting in like
an hour.
I was like Greta, who I waslike for what?
They were?
Like Barbie.
(19:56):
I was like are you kidding?
Yeah, and I sat down with herand it just was like I recorded.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
How was she Like how?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
She's, she's incredible and she incredible
and she is like a super likemusical theater nerd.
So like our meeting, I thinkthat has to be like what you
know.
It tipped it my way we werejust talking about musicals and
dancing and she's like, okay,this guy is.
She wanted barbie to be like amusical theater summer camp,
yeah and that's exactly what itfelt like oh, oh, it was I.
Yeah, I was just like.
(20:24):
All my life I've been trainingfor this Singing, dancing, being
gay.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Like here we are, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Let's do this.
I love it.
Who are some of your?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
favorite co-stars, I guess, to work with, or did you
have like pre-existingfriendships with anybody?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I didn't know anybody , All right you don't have any
friends that are actors, right,my choice.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And if you are my friend and you're an actor,
you're the only one I mean.
Everybody was so great.
We were all so close.
Shooty and I got super closebecause our trailers are right
next to each other.
Ariana Greenblatt she's theyounger, she is one of my
favorite people on the planet.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
She's so good you can tell.
You can tell that it was like areally close knit fun family
like orientated set the.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Barbies had like a little sleepover thing, but they
invited Shooty and I because, Idon't know.
We're the gay cans.
Yeah, of course, but we hadgame nights where I saw that
America Ferrara was my match interms of rules and game nights
she was as annoying and crazy asI am.
I love it but yeah, we went tothe party bus went to Magic Mike
(21:35):
.
We had a good time.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, and I think that's important too, I'm sure
on set with Cass, creating thoseactual friendships and bonds
outside of yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I got there two weeks before we even started filming,
because Greta wanted all theKens to work out together and
play games Chemistry doesn't lie.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's really important.
That's really cool that she hadthat for you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
She's a beast.
She's incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Were you stereotypical, ken, was that
your?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's what somebody said.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I was like really.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
There's something stereotypical about you.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
We were going to be like what is they all tried to
like, uh, figure that out.
I don't think there was, likeever, a specific thing.
It was just everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
If you could choose one, yeah yeah, what would you
be like?
Scott, you're, you're kenyou're.
You're scott, ken oh god, Idon't know.
See, I'm not really a beach guyokay, I don't know, I hate it
doesn't matter.
Yeah, I hate you, don't?
You don't have to be terrifiedof the ocean.
I hate sand.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm terrified of the ocean, I'm allergic to shellfish
it doesn't want me it doesn'twant me, god, if I could be a
Ken.
Is there like a?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
a WeHo Ken oh, rollerblader Ken probably for
sure, can you rollerblade, I do,rollerblade, you do rollerblade
.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I was rollerblading when I got the call to meet with
Greta and I was like I can'tbecause I'm rollerblading.
And I told her that she's like.
I just decided to putrollerblading in the movie.
I was like, oh please, all myfriends make fun of me you're
the only friend I think I have.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I'm the only person in West Hollywood we need to go
rollerblading.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I'm the only person in West Hollywood that
rollerblades my friends will belike just saw you, you idiot oh,
you're rollerblading down likesunset oh, I'll go on this trip,
I'm all here.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Okay, we're going to do rollerblading Me and Steve.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I got him to sort of get into it.
We would go to the PacificCoast Highway.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
My brother and I grew up rollerblading.
We absolutely love it.
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I love it so much.
Okay, so we need to have arollerblading date.
We have our Heelys.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, we just got, don't either.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We'll see.
We'll have to find out.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
But rollerblades, like roller skates, are
impossible to me.
I put them on, I'm like that'seasier they don't work, I don't
get it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Roller skates are.
I do both, so I can say rollerskates are a little bit harder
than rollerblades.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Listen, as far as the casting director is concerned,
I do both yes, same are youkidding me, I do it all um, well
, I want to talk about your mostrecent project, which is
running point.
I binged it in a day and a half.
It was so good and I reallylike.
I mean this probably isn't agreat quality of mine, but I'm
such a harsh critic with any oflike those shows that come out
like that me too I was hookedfrom the very beginning, so tell
(24:07):
us about how you got into it.
We love that I told everybodythat I know to go watch it Same.
What was?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
it.
I was saying like I can be sucha hater Like I can, especially
when people like love something,I'll be like I refuse to watch
it, I will hate it.
I don't find anything funny,like I'm such a harsh critic,
and so I was like I just hope Idon't need to find it funny,
like cause I didn't read all thescripts, I was only in like
five of the 10.
I was like I don't care if Idon't find it funny, I just want
(24:34):
to be able to look at it and belike I know that people will
find it funny yeah.
And we went to the premiere andsaw the first two episodes and
we left and I was like it'sfunny.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's funny it, I think, in gold it's funny, it's
so good, it's so good.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Oh it's so good.
Yeah, and I, yeah, I loved it.
We binged it in.
Steve stayed home from work onthat Thursday.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I was like.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I need to see what I look like.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh yeah, no, we, I let you.
I watched it literally in a dayand a half.
It was like and so well cast,so well cast First of all Justin
Theroux.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I didn't know he could do that.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
He's hilarious I love him.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
He's so funny.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Hilarious, so funny.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, that's the other thing is like we were
watching.
Steve's mother is one of thegreatest women alive.
She's the sweetest, mostincredible human.
And I was like she you know shedoesn't really like swearing
and I was like she can't watchthis.
And she was watching like oneepisode at a time really like.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Just we love it so much.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I'm like they say the f word every other word.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Oh, it's so good.
How did you feel like itcompares like your other roles?
And one thing I've talked toher earlier which I love is just
like as as a gay man.
In hollywood you've gotten toplay mostly like right like
roles being a gay man well, Imean, that's something like they
.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I'm only really getting called in for gay roles,
which is a bummer, um that'sgreat for the community too,
though.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well it is, but then all the best gay roles are going
as great guys yeah and they'rewinning oscars, because how
brave um, oh god, this is gonnaget me in trouble.
Wait that, no, but it's really.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think it's a real, it's a really important
conversation to have in yeah,well, it's like, it's the kind
of thing like it's like let uh,gay men play gay roles and
they're like well then, onlystraight people should play
straight roles.
It's like that's not it yeahthat's not it at all.
there's always been room forstraight people.
Yep, there's always been room,and, like you put one in a
storyline and and so long ithasn't really ever been.
(26:29):
We're telling this we want agay man for a gay role, because
it's really about being a gayman and what it's like.
It's sort of like yeah, you'rethe gay man, you're the
assistant, you're the, you'rethe best friend you are.
We're going to give you somefunny lines and and so it's kind
of nice to sort of see this,especially see like Drew
(26:50):
Tarver's character, sandy.
It's just sort of he's notsitting there being like girl,
you better put on that necklace.
Right, so I don't know it's niceand I don't know it's very
strange when it comes to thatconversation.
It's a very hard conversationto have because I go, I go back
(27:11):
and forth, but you let thepeople tell their own stories
for now and until there's sixgay men in a series, in an
episode, then a straight guy canplay it.
But, that's why we're sayinglet us play our roles and tell
our stories.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
If you're going to put us in things it's in.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You know there's all this.
They really want things to bediverse and inclusive, but you
know, when it's just you're justcasting somebody because of the
color of their skin and notbecause it has anything to do
with the role, that also doesn'twork for me?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
no, right, it doesn't work for me.
It's other stories, right,exactly, so exactly, and that's
important.
I mean what, um, are some likefunny moments that you can like
give us from behind the scenesof running for those who maybe
who haven't watched it too, likejust overall yeah what people
should expect, why they shouldwatch it and maybe like some
little things that maybe theywouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I mean I I not necessarily a funny thing, but
hello, I got to spend a wholeday sitting behind macaulay
culkin yeah I mean, yeah, howwas that was your first
conversation?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
well, I just didn't, was it?
I know people hate all yourmovies.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I just didn't, but I love him.
It's like listen, I'm a toughjudge, I know people love it, I
don't.
No, it was just, I didn't evenrealize it at first.
I remember seeing him beinglike is that my gollygoggin?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
That's a gollygog.
Didn't realize.
Yeah, I didn't realize thatuntil this year, I know.
And then she is.
She's crazy watching her careeramazing yeah, she's great.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Um well, I've known kate for like for a while.
Okay, I've been to some epicgame.
She has, uh, some really crazygame nights I could imagine yeah
, I uh, I we like with biggroups and she hadn't had one
for a while and just had one Ithink like two years ago, and
she texted me and I was like oh,I thought I wasn't getting the
(28:55):
invite anymore.
And she's like I haven't had onesince last night and I'm like,
okay, great good, I'll like takeback all the bad things I said
about you, but yeah, it's likeyou're sitting there in a room
and I'm like these are all a lotof celebrities and everything
and I'm like I don't give a shitIf I think you're Mavia, you're
out yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
You don't know me in a game you will die.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
No, yeah, okay, kate Hudson, let's talk about working
with her.
She is just like the queen.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
She's just like yeah, and she's like it's sort of
like she was back in the day.
She was like queen of therom-com.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like how to Lose a.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Guy in 10 Days is like a perfect movie and like
this she.
First of all it's in thegenetics, because Goldie.
Hawn.
I grew up.
What a star.
And then, Kate, it's just sortof like people will give people
shit for like the nepo babystuff she's proven herself.
But if you have, the chops toback it up exactly.
(29:55):
Doesn't matter who her parentswere, because she would have got
the part anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah anyway, she's so good, she's so good, and she
does everything.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
She's doing music.
Is she doing music now?
We all as a cast went to likeher like performance, her
concert and she's promoting it.
And I all as a cast went tolike her like performance, her
concert and she's promoting itand I'm like and you got kids
like I literally can barely wakeup yeah, what about mindy?
mindy's great.
I didn't see her that muchbecause she she would like come
in and out, but like there wasat kate's concert, I just
(30:24):
remember like she came walkingin and I hadn't met her yet.
It was like towards the earlierside of the shoot and she just
came walking in and I hadn't mether yet.
It was towards the earlier sideof the shoot and she just came
walking in and saw me.
She was like oh, I was justwatching the dailies, You're so
good.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I was like okay, oh, that's so good, I love that.
Okay, many kids.
We love when people give thecredit when it's there you do
auditions and they don't giveyou any positive feedback.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's like the amount that that does for just your.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
You know your overall confidence everyone in this
industry has imposter syndromefor sure.
So exactly, and then the morelike someone like steve, like a
boyfriend or a seat of the othersays it to you, you're like I
am bad, yeah like you tell meI'm good, I'm like, that means
I'm horrible, exactly.
I don't believe you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yes, it is a very strange.
Like yeah, like we said, likeimposter syndrome imposter
syndrome I feel like really doeshappen in everybody, especially
in this creative field.
It's it's hard because yourcreate, your creativity is your
own authenticity, so sometimesthat doesn't resonate with other
people and you feel like yourauthenticity isn't authentic
(31:23):
enough or you have to mold intosomething else totally.
Totally, which is just like ugh, no, f, fuck, that Can we say
can we say customers on here?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's not for the faint of heart, fuck that Okay.
Well then, mindy, I know sherecently just got her star on.
She did and then it wasn't thesame day or same weekend that
you got renewed for season two.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, were you like had to call yourself about it.
I was expecting Running Pointto do well and then it just kept
doing well.
The most shocking thing wasgetting messages or texts from
close people in my life beinglike, oh my god, what a surprise
.
Just saw you show up at RunningPoint.
I'm like am I not showing up onInstagram?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I've told you guys I only post every four months With
that algorithm, though you'reprobably not showing up on
Instagram.
I've told you guys Well, I onlypost every like four months
With that algorithm, thoughyou're probably not showing up
on there.
Not at all, doesn't make anysense.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But then, like when it's like stayed at number one
and it kept like doing so well,I was like this is crazy and the
reviews were good.
Some of the early reviews I wasworried about that came out
right at midnight when itreleased like the top ones.
I was like reading them reviewsby like top women critics.
I was like I hate on this thisis like a woman-led
like woman like come on support.
(32:37):
And uh, I was worried that thatwas going to catch fire and it
just didn't yeah, it's justpeople I love people couldn't
hate it, even if they, like you,don't know someone else.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
If you want to talk about nepo babies, who we're not
saying he's a nepo baby, butTom.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Hanks was on the show .
Chet Hanks, how is he?
His character was one of myfavorites.
He killed it.
I'll tell you this so funny.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Well, if I searched Chet Hanks right now in my
messages more than probably sixseven, eight, my sister like
people just being like hey,how's Chet Hanks?
I Like people just being likehey, how's Chad Hanks?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'm like why, why, why do you want to know?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I just I don't know Is he, he's hot right, I was
like everybody is so into it.
I'm like that is so funny.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well, yeah, the people want to know.
I mean hello, it's so funny.
He was a great person to workwith on set.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I never scenes with dogs.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, it's so funny.
People don't realize thateither.
I know People don't realizelike oh, you're in a show with
somebody.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
But you think I know that you're in the scenes with
everybody.
You may not see that at all,even like movies, like movies
that shoot like separately never.
We're never, never togetherlike it's.
Yeah, I know well overall.
Congratulations on all yoursuccess and everyone, please go
watch running.
Yeah, I'm back for season two.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I'm so glad I mean gosh.
Is it too like spoilers,spoiler coming up next.
I'm so glad that you workedyour relationship out on the
show because I was like, no, Ineed scott again, and I feel I
was so like moved by yourperformance, especially the
scene, I think, at the game,when you started getting
emotional it was so sweet.
Drew is so sweet, so good, andI love him and close his um.
(34:16):
Was it the other two?
Yeah?
yeah, yeah, loved him and thattoo, he's, he's, he's so good
what's in your mind, things youstill want to accomplish in
hollywood, like what kind ofroles would you like to play,
would you like?
I know you love horror movies.
Would you love to do like aslasher?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
oh for sure for sure there was.
Um years ago.
There was a script that I read,this, this horror movie that I
had got the offer for and, likeit never got off the ground and
I think about it all the time.
When I say years ago, I meanlike 20 years ago and it was
supposed to be with, uh, ryanquanton.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Okay, do you know him I?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
don't.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Is he a horror guy?
Is he True?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Blood.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I never saw True Blood Me neither, because
everybody loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Anyway, he's gorgeous Vampire Diaries.
I can talk about it.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
But it never happened .
So that's a side tidbit.
But roles I'd like to play it'snot really not many.
I am writing, I would love, Iwould love, love, love to just
write and be a writer for a showand a series and never have to
worry about what I look like.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Really.
So if you could choose, you'dbe back like writing and not
being on camera, oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean I love it, it's just, it's the stress
it puts I mean I have have.
I mean I have issues, I'm apsychopath we all do, why do?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
you think we all live in freaking West Hollywood
auditioning totally well.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And then the entertainment business is just
also.
It just breeds mental illness,it just breathes stories yeah,
right, it's like.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean, I think I've been here for 18 years in los
angeles and the amount ofstories that I have that I could
write about is insane, so maybewe should get together, we we
would all we would all havecrazy stories.
What a show we would createexactly.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well, it starts from, like you know, having to go to
a costume fitting.
I will spiral, I'll just belike I just hate this, like I
just you just like you justconstantly, and and then it's,
you're just constantly pickedapart everything and I'm kind of
just like I would just love tobe that you, you be the outline
you're like the outline thatyou're filling.
Everything I would love to bein in charge like a showrunner
(36:23):
when we were doing.
Barbie, there were so many days.
Ryan Gosling would be like he'dlook at me and be like do you
ever do you ever like produce ordirect?
And I was like no, why he'slike or stage manage or
showrunner?
I was like why?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Were you given that?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
like Bible.
Well, I, just I am very like,even growing up, I'm a Virgo, I
I am a perfectionist.
I would you know, I'd go homeand I would practice and I would
know everything.
And if somebody had a question,if nobody was ready to answer
it, I'd be ready to answer it.
The day that we did the KenBallet, the I'm Just Ken.
We had one day to do it andpeople didn't know the lyrics to
(36:56):
the song.
People didn't really know, theydidn't learn the moves, and we
were behind and Greta came outand she goes Scott, I need you
to take over for a little bitand teach everyone the lyrics
and the dance.
And I was like this is mymoment.
This is what my controllingpsychosis is finally, and I did,
(37:17):
and I, you know, I want toframe the text she sent me later
that day, just being like yeah,I couldn't have done this day
without you.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I was like what like a moment of finally, like that
probably just shed us on thatimposter syndrome, because you
realize, oh, this is what.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Maybe I meant, yeah, well then I'm like should I
maybe just go control something?
Yeah, it's like growing updoing plays.
It's like somebody missed thatscene change.
I'd be like Stephanie.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, she missed it.
Are you like a type that willlike say as they're?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
saying them oh, I will know them if they fuck up,
I'll know them, I will mouththem, I'll know everything.
That's so great.
Yeah, it's annoying.
Try dating them.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Bless your husband's heart.
Yeah, if you weren't an actor,what do you think you would?
I mean, I don't know if that'sever crossed your mind Homicide
detective, I'm not to get awaywith murder so I can help.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Law and order.
Svu detective Like that's whatI would want to be.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
That would be too tough.
The second I got anythinginvolving kids, I'd be like okay
.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, I know, I just, oh, I love it, but yeah, any
kind of forensic homicide,private detective, which it's
not.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
if I wasn't an actor, that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
It could still happen , that could still happen.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I do it now.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I've hired a PI on some exes before, so I'll know
to just call you.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Call me, you need to find something, my brother.
People will text me.
They'll be like oh, I don'tknow this.
I'm like I got you Within a fewminutes.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Oh, good to know, You're like, I will figure this
out that right, there is goingto be a future TV show, not like
an actual scripted show.
I also save everything Receipt.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I got receipts.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You'll come there with, like the papers.
Well, listen, on this date.
I never said that.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yes you did.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I mean okay, so I know that growing up as being in
a creative and like dance andacting and all these things,
Like my cousins and I would Makehome videos all the time Is
that something that you and yoursiblings did growing up?
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Oh, we need the tapes .
Talk about videos.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I think Chris has them locked in a vault somewhere
.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, chris, we need those videos now, me and my
siblings, we would put on playsin the basement all the time.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
We did every Disney movie.
We did everything.
We did a lotney movie.
We did everything, we did a lot.
Yeah, and my dad had acamcorder.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So that's great.
That's what we did too duringsummer, like summer vacation,
like we.
We filmed a whole movie.
It was called the klutz I had.
I had like crispies right herebecause my lips were cracking,
but it didn't matter, right,because you're just like in the
camera, like all these thingsthat you're.
You look, look back, you'relike, oh okay.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
That's what I say, I think.
I think God every day that Ididn't have iPhone or Instagram
in high school and college Same.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I mean, we're the last generation, right, the last
generation.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That's what it was like before and after College
would have been so bad.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So bad.
I mean the receipts peoplewould have of me in college.
I'm glad those don't exist.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
That's why you see kids post things today.
I'm like who isn't warning them?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I know I mean the receipts that my friends have
from Facebook.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It's like I deleted my Facebook and all that, all
those Facebook time hops thatremind you how much of a little
shit you were, and the mostembarrassing status updates that
we would, leo and I we onlysend each other old Facebook
statuses and 2008, 2009,something was going on with us.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
It's literally me on a toilet.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Every other day.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
It's me on a toilet in Ladoo Like stop, oh, those
like the little peace sign,that's not really a peace sign.
It's like I don't know whatthis is, but my mom was like
you're going to be embarrassedone day.
And now I do look back and I'mlike you're right, mom, like oh
you should.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
What I used to wear.
I loved a loose tie.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
No yo you should see some of these pictures.
They're crazy.
Yeah, do you have any of thosethat you could send us?
Yeah, we're gonna need to seethose.
Oh, yeah, like the big beltbuckles right here, like what
were they?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
like this is my rib cage, not my arm bands.
This was a sweat arm bandsright here in the middle of my
forearm.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I thought you were about to go play in the NBA or
something, absolutely All thetime.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
We'll pull some of those on our social media, don't
you worry you mentioned yourbrother, chris Chris Evans, for
those who don't know who we'retalking about, captain.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
America.
There's not another Chris Evansno.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Another, chris Evans.
He I know we have a mutualfriend, josh, who just talks
about.
Y'all have such a goodrelationship.
How has he been with watchingyour success and his support?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
He's great when I got Barbie.
He's so supportive, he'sincredibly supportive and we are
supportive of each other.
This is one of my favoritethings.
I mean not favorite.
Well, you'll hear when he'slike he'll be shooting something
.
And if he's having like a badday or like an imposter syndrome
(41:51):
day or feeling like he's notdoing whatever, I will get the
text and it'll just be like man,I am having, I am horrible,
whatever.
And I'm like I love the factthat I am the support system
because I will gas him up,because I'm not lying, yeah,
like I just hate when he thinksthat he's not worth it, like
because I think he's supertalented and there's a hey shout
(42:14):
out to a movie.
There's a movie called Puncturethat he did from like years ago,
that he is so fucking good atwe're gonna go watch that.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
People need to see it .
Speaker 3 (42:23):
We will go watch that , yeah and I just remember
watching it, being like youshould have every award, that's
ever existed.
He's so good um, but I love him.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
He's super supportive , he's, he's, you know, my best
friend oh, he's my friend wealways say it's like you're my
first friend yeah, and that's soimportant because I'm sure
there's a lot of siblings inhollywood and I feel like you
have seen, sometimes like thatdivide in that competition yeah,
there's um.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
See, I think we we also lucked out the fact that
I'm gay.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Y'all didn't ever have to fight for the same
ladies.
He'll always say thank God,you're gay, we don't have to do
that.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
And then he'll be like man.
If I was gay, I would kill itin the gay world and I'm like
you, aren't gay and you'realready killing it in the gay
world, aren't you?
We're like the same height Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Or would you say you're the cuter one?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I don't know he's got abs, I've got a tan.
Okay, we're on equal playingfield Balance.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Well listen, we do only have about 15 minutes left.
I thought we'd play a littlefun drinking game.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Great, I've already been drinking, you've already
been drinking.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's called sip or spill.
So I'm going to ask you somequestions and it's kind of
self-explanatory.
If you don't want to answer thequestion, you just admit your
guilt and you drink.
I am so excited for this.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I'm scared Should we sip with him too, we can sip
Solidarity.
Vanessa, do you want to kick itoff?
Yes, okay, worst date you'veever been on.
You know it.
Actually, I'm going to namenames.
No, you know it.
Actually, I'm going to namenames, okay please do Wait.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
no, I'm not Actually.
Yes, I am.
I went on a date with PeterThiel one of the original
investors of Facebook.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Like the rich.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Republican, he's gay, and we went to like this insane
, like fancy restaurant forlunch, uh-huh, and the only
thing on the menu that Irecognized that I could order
was like the pheasant and likehe was awful.
Oh, that's second worst name.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Oh, you can continue.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
What's the first?
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh, it's another name drop.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Actually no, this one's still Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
I can't do it yet, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I'll tell you after, though.
Next, because it was horrible.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Okay, I love how he's sipping, anyway, I cried on the
way home from the date have youever had an on-set crush?
Or like starstruck.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Oh, I think it was just that.
Oh, on-set crush.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Okay, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
I mean, are you allowed to say a name or
anything?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Or are you sipping.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
See, I don't think this is going to be like a good
answer for you, but I like had asuper crush on Martin Sheen.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Okay, wow, grace and Frankie, yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
He is just the most person like the sweetest.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I actually sent a picture of me and Martin Sheen
to one of my cousins once andshe showed her daughter and she
goes oh, is that Scott's twoboyfriends?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
And I was like what is she doing?
Out here, what is this?
That's great, great.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Okay, that's a good one.
Okay, next one what is the mostridiculous Hollywood rumor
about yourself that you've heardand you're like wait.
What?
Speaker 3 (45:14):
That my net worth is $3.2 million.
Don't you love those net?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
worth things.
I'm so rich on the internet.
I googled it and I'm like whereShow where?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Show me the money, but even if I had not spent a
dime and kept every penny fromevery job I've had, it wouldn't
be that my friend Jimmy alwayssays he's like if you are worth
3.2 million, this is the longestcon we've ever seen, I never
pick up a tab and we go outevery day again.
No, I do, but it's like my last$5.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
3.2.
Where have?
No, I do, but it's like my last$5.
3.2.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Have you ever hooked up with a fan?
Well, they're going to know,because I only have one fan.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
No, yes, okay, wow Okay, I wish we could have more,
but I didn't know until themorning After.
That's happened to me andthat's awkward as hell.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
It's the worst thing ever, because they said
something like.
I don't even remember what theysaid, but it was sort of just
like oh, by the way, I saw youon he's like I loved you on that
and started like naming myresume.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's like nauseating a little bit and I was like
you're gonna go tell everybodyand he may have had photos on
his phone of you sleeping.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
You know, like you never know which, honestly I
mean the situation has beenreversed.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I'm supposed to be, the one that I'm a fan of and
told everybody oh, my God, okay,name a co-star you wouldn't
work with again.
What's the wildest thing you'vedone at an industry party?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I feel like you can't I would love for you to say it.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
I know exactly what it is, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
We're going to lunch after this.
I can't wait to hear.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
I showed a picture of my private part to a very
A-list Oscar-winning actress.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
That is incredible.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
And she loved it and we have done it all, of course
she did.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Of course she did.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
But that's not the wildest thing.
I'm absolutely telling you thething.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Oh yeah, I don't even know if we could say the
wildest thing on air that we'vedone?
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh, absolutely not.
Now, what's the mostembarrassing thing you've ever
done when you were drunk, I mean, I can't even remember half the
things.
Probably that's why blackoutsexist, so you don't have to
remember the things.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
I mean the first thing that comes to mind is I
went when I went to the greatestSuper Bowl that ever existed,
the Patriots in Houston.
I was there, my friend Bo livedin Houston, and I went out with
him and a couple of his friendsLike we were on like a group
chat and I was home in my hotelroom.
(47:49):
It was like 2.30 in the morningand I texted one of them and
like two minutes later he hadn'tresponded.
So I texted the other one and Icopy-pasted and they the next
day sent it to their group chat.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
No, no, oh shit, okay , yeah, literal copy paste
within minutes and then beautexted me the next day.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
He was like yo send me a screenshot.
I was like so I guess I shouldjust kill myself, like this is
you will never see me again ohmy god, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Okay, what's?
Let's go.
What's the most annoyingcelebrity you've ever met?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I'm choosing the ones that are like I know he's going
to sip on this question righthere.
Scott, thank you, I'm so gladwe did this.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
You're one of the coolest people that I know.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Oh well, please, You're the first.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
And I'm excited to see where your career goes from
here, whether it's just morelike big roles, season two of
Running Point or your writing.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
you know Fingers crossed and we're going to be in
it.
Yeah, we are going to be in it.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Trust me, the when I make something, my friends will
produce it, they will cast it,they will direct it.
They will star in it, they willedit it, they will do it all.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Because the beautiful thing about being a creative is
that other creatives havecreative friends.
Yeah, and we're all so talented.
It's so fun to come up together.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yes, your house ever was, you know yeah.
Yeah, I mean, we know he haslike 10, but you know you and
your friends are all theretogether like damn it, like we
did this together yeah, and Ijust know that they have the
talent and they deserve it andit's just like you got to get
that foot in the door andabsolutely you know and
sometimes, like we said, withsocial media and like how it is
now.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
You almost do have to do things on your own and make
them something yeah, and then itgets picked up, or then it gets
Rachel Bloom, my craziestgirlfriend.
Brian Jordan Alvarez, englishteacher write your own, write
your own thing, yep tell yourown stories, tell your own
stories that's the theme of thisentire thing and then pretend
like it's not about you.
Yes, because, boy, we got a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Okay, we have a lot.
Where can people find yousocial medias?
Where can we look for you?
Speaker 3 (50:02):
next I'm on Instagram .
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah, scott Evans Graham.
What's your other Scott EvansInstagram.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
I am Scott Evans.
Okay, I think, or that's hisTwitter.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I don't know my Twitter, but yours is at Scott
Evans.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
At Scott Evans Graham .
Graham, okay, it used to be,Mary Queen of Scots, wow.
And then when my managers werelike you should change that,
because it was Queen Q-W-E-E-N.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
No, I love it.
Mary, queen of Scots Mary.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Queen of Scots I wanted to do X marks the Scot
Somebody had it.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
That's so cute.
What loves Scott to?
Speaker 3 (50:32):
do with it.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Oh, my God.
I kind of think you should goback and figure this out.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
I wish.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
That's going to be the intro.
I was like what's Scott have todo with it?
Speaker 3 (50:44):
no, my podcast or my memoir, is going to be called
Over my Dad Body, literally.
That's really clever.
You're clever, literally.
I love a pun.
You should be a writer.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
I'm a big fun person.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Alright, everyone.
Thanks so much for joining uson this episode of.
Milk and Honey.
Thanks again, scott.
Thank you, scott, and.
all right, everybody, welcome back to another episode
of milk and honeys.
We're your hosts, kayla beckerand, of course, the lovely yes,
and so we're excited you guysare joining us, uh, on this
adventure.
Even more exciting is thatwe're actually, uh, introducing
our first guest on the show.
Um, he's over here to my left.
You just heard him.
(00:32):
Everybody this is the one andonly scott evans.
It's funny you say that becauseit's not the one and only what's
funny about that is I wastalking to my manager and he was
like yeah, we represent scottevans.
I'm like oh my god, I lovescott evans.
He was yeah no, he used to workin like broadcast television.
I was like, oh my god, I've gotto talk to my friend scott about
the fact he started in mycareer and now, look at him now,
(00:53):
and it didn't hit me until kindof recently like, oh, the other
scott evans we will show up atevents and they'll be like I'll
make scott evans and I'll see onthe sheet his picture.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'll be like well, literally.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I was like what kind of like you know treatment does
my friend scott evans get?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
because this is not, oh I got an invite to duane wade
and gabrielle union's oscarsafter party and I said to my
manager I go, you might want toreply and just clarify.
And I never heard back allright.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Can you imagine if I showed up, you should, we didn't
invite?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
you.
You're like, you're not Scott.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Evans Nope, you're the white one, you're the white
one.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, scott, I really appreciate you coming on and
doing this, of course, I know wehaven't gotten to see each
other a lot lately, but I'm sofreaking proud of you.
How has life been.
I mean, I feel like I know theanswer to that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, I mean, since the show came out, it's been
incredible.
But the industry is kind of amess, right now.
It's been tough, but listen theresponse to the show makes me
feel good.
It got picked up for season two.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yes, I know, I don't know if that means me, but my
phone's on.
We manifested that it is that'swhat my boyfriend said last
night.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He said stop putting out the negative energy,
manifest it out.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We're going to get into that in a minute, but I
thought we'd kick things offwith just a rapid fire, just so
people can get to know you alittle bit better, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, so we're going to run out.
You ready for this?
Vanessa, you want to kick it?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
off?
Sure Okay, and you can't.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Before you the first question you can't Not your own
Favorite guilty pleasure.
Oh oh, I was like, not my own,like recently, oh God, a show or
movie?
I am embarrassed Well.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm not.
Yes, we want that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I just watched the show CSEE with Jason Momoa on
Apple TV and I was like is thisgoing to be like ridiculous?
I loved it, I like, loved itand I don like is this going to
be ridiculous?
I loved it I loved it and Idon't.
Well, I won't say too much, butI really loved it and it got
canceled.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It did.
Okay, I saw it advertised whenit first came out.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I never got around to it.
I'm like do more.
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, good, Okay next one Go-to karaoke song Faith,
George Michael or the thong songthat only gets people going.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Don't do ignition by.
It's a horrible karaoke song.
I tried one time.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I want to see that maybe later today we'll get you
to do that next questionweirdest fan interaction.
I want to see that in real time.
Maybe later today We'll get youto do that.
That's the episode.
Patreon that would cost you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, next question Weirdest fan interaction Cringe
funny.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, you know what?
When I was on a soap opera forfour years back, in the day like
one of my first jobs.
Those fans they don't separateLike they can't separate that
you are playing a character.
Any interaction I'd have in newyork on the subway they'd be
like yo, you're fish, you're onmy show, don't do that to leila
(03:51):
and I'd be like I.
I didn't.
I didn't do that to leila.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's not I don't know , I have no idea, but yeah
people will ask advice likeabout like the law because I
played a cop.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm like sweetie the only thing I know about the law
is getting arrested.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I DM you like hey, I just got pulled over for a
ticket.
Like how can I get out of this?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I did get a piece of fan mail once asking for feed
pictures.
No, and I didn't send.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
But like now people they offer a high dollar for
that.
I mean, I consider it.
Sometimes I do too, but then Ilook at my feet, I would make
nothing.
You'd make no money.
My feet are not great, okay,last thing, this is a dumb one,
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Celebrity crush growing up.
Well, vocally, because I was inthe closet, I would say, like
Sandra Bullock, I was a bigHelen Hunt, meg Ryan fan.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But the people that I loved growing up was a young
Stanley Tucci, Rick.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Moranis.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Giovanni Ribisi Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Which they're all very short and I think that is.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Was Larry David on that list.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm kidding, he's actually one of my celebrity
crushes.
I love me a Larry David, I know.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
If you're listening, Larry.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We'll bring you on the show.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thank, you Come.
She're listening, larry, we'llbring you on the show.
Thank you, come, she loves you.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Larry, in both ways, just kidding.
Okay, you're All right, we'regoing to get back on track, back
on track.
We're five minutes into theshow.
Okay, your go-to comfort food.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Specifically.
I mean my favorite food is soup, which is a crazy.
She makes a great soup a crazyI love.
I want to open up a soup placecalled you make me want a soup
soup we'll be your firstcustomers.
Yes, oh, trust me well in la.
It's like people are, like wedon't want that, but then in the
(05:43):
summer it could be.
You make me want a scoop.
And then you have an ice creamspinoff, but I don't know how to
make ice cream, oh, but yeah, Iwould say a bowl of soup,
probably French and green.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, okay, Cute.
What's your most used emojiwhen you're texting your friends
?
The one that it's like parentswho said the laughing crying
emoji.
When you say my dog just died,they're like oh, this is crying
(06:11):
because there's tears coming out.
They're like dying laughing.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Turning into the puddle one.
What's that?
I use that one all the time.
I don't really have the onethat's like.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Someone's like what did you do last night?
I'm like puddle, like a littleembarrassed.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay, that's I think it's embarrassed.
Okay, yeah, I think it'sembarrassed.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But I also sometimes I'm not gonna lie I do send it
when it's like, oh man, like youjust can't take it anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You're like melting in the situation there's some
specific ones that like youreally need like that they don't
have.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't know what they are, but no, they there are
.
There are also.
I don't know acronyms but likeyeah, or like people will say
them and I'll have to Googlethem.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I do that a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Immediately.
Well, I can actually admit thatG-R-W-N which is or no?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
N, which is get ready with me.
Wow, I was like great, really Iused to think it was grown
woman.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh, wow, like grown woman that was a journey to get
to that.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, it was not it well, I won't say what I thought
SMH was what was that?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I think I can get exactly what you meant horrible
horrible okay, hold up, okay.
Next, what was the firstconcert you ever?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
sorry, I skipped what's the first concert you
ever attended the first threeconcerts I ever attended were
the same and it was oh, I'mgonna age myself it was the
monkeys okay, I'm not like ahuge concert person, but I will
say the last concert I went towas Avril Levine okay, when was
that she's?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
your last year right she's my number one really, I
love her so much I went to awedding with her one.
I know Josh is like oh yeah, Iwas like sitting like waiting to
order our burgers at this foodtruck and I was trying to act so
cool, like your name is what isit, avril Like trying to act
like.
Oh, I'm so cool, avril.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Oh, I was in Vegas with we were like with the same
group and doing shots and PerezHilton had just posted something
really like dragging her andsaying people hate her music.
And we were so drunk and I wentout to her I was like hey'm
like that didn't come out right.
I know everybody hates yourmusic.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And that one time you have that conversation with
somebody you admire.
That's how it turns out, ofcourse, of course, two more.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, next one Dream vacation spots that you haven't
been to Italy.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Or no, I'm going to say Holland, the Tula Fields, oh
yeah, that's what heaven lookslike when I die.
That's what I want to like.
I want to live there, disappear, put me in the mountains, get
me out of here.
Yes.
Get me out of here.
Put me in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And then one final one what is an embarrassing
onset moment that maybe you'vehad in your career?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Maybe you never had one because you're very put
together and cool and collectedall the time, right?
Um, personally, well, it wasembarrassing for me because it
was kind of secondhandembarrassment I was doing a
thing with somebody.
Oh, I don't know how to makethis not obvious, but I will say
I was I oh well, here it is.
We were interacting in a scene.
It wasn't even a sexual thing,but he was in underwear and I
was.
There was a struggle happeningand he got okay, excited, yes,
(09:12):
and it was like we had to cut.
It was like very.
I got more embarrassed than hedid.
He was like fine with it and Iwas just like me was that a
recent role?
No.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, I was trying to piece it together.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We're going to let our audiences piece that one
together, but in turn.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I was kind of like this is so hot If there wasn't
150 people here.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Very flattering though.
Well, I wanted everyone whodoesn't know you to kind of get
a little bit of a sense of ofyour personality and the things
you like and you dislike.
But you have had especially thelast couple of years for you
have been probably like aninsane rollercoaster with your
career.
You've been in the industry fora long time.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But going back to the very beginning, you know, I
know acting, it kind of runs inyour family a little bit, but
what drew you to it?
Like what was the beginning?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
yeah, it's um, I, I tell you, if, uh, if, there was
youtube or instagram back when,back in my day growing up, my
family probably would have beensome sort of partridge family,
like ready bunch von traps,whatever we all got like, we
were all super into it.
My, my brother and I kind offell into it, more so because my
(10:21):
older sister was doing it andmy mother was like it was easier
to carpool everyone to the sameactivity after school.
So we kind of fell into it moreso because my older sister was
doing it and my mother was likeit was easier to carpool
everyone to the same activityafter school.
So we kind of just like fellinto it and then and then, like
you, become very popular withgirls, which I thought was a
good thing when you're a boy whocan sing, and that was like.
I was like oh, I like this.
And then, when I was applyingto college, I didn't have the
(10:42):
best grades in high schoolbecause I didn't believe in
homework so I did well on tests,horrible homework, so I wanted
to get into a good school and Iwas like I'll audition no boys
are singing.
And so I got into a school.
I guess that I did deserve.
But yeah, and then it just kindof, you know, it became a thing
that I fell in love with.
And here we are and now it'slike torture.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It's like all that whole life, it's just hard the
rejection is so well.
Yeah, we wanted to definitelyget into the nose story
absolutely the nose, the nose.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Everyone always asks me too.
It's like how do you not hearseven nose in a row and keep
going and it's hard, it's sevenin a row, you know?
Just to be specific, yeah yeah,and that is a small streak.
Okay, usually there's a lotmore, but let's just give it a
number, like in a row there's somany no's in a row and you have
(11:36):
to remember that, like thisisn't necessarily because of my
talent, it's just.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It is what it is, it's the, it's the part of the
game yeah, it's a part of thegame and the problem with it is
is like sometimes it's like youknow it's casting directors.
A lot of the time it's sort oflike hey, did we say to my
manager or agent, did we get anylike feedback?
Did they say anything?
What's happening with that?
Uh, no, no feedback.
It's like they don't have timefor feedback, but like it really
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would take two seconds if youthought somebody did well, to be
like he did great.
It's just not somethingdifferent.
I can't tell you how many timesI've lost things out, lost
parts up in the final two forthings, and it's literally has
nothing to do.
A lot of the time now itdoesn't have anything to do with
talent, it comes down to a look, a look, a social media
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following now.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And it's just Maya Hawke.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Ethan Hawke's daughter.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It was coming up and I was like well, yeah, that's
fine.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But yeah, it's sad, it doesn't talent people get so
discouraged.
I know so many people that Iwent to school with and actor
friends that are just notpursuing it anymore because it's
hard to maintain to if you'renot.
You know, getting one job ayear sometimes can sustain you
for the year.
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But like a lot of the time, it'sjust not enough and then, when
you're doing like the waitingtables, jobs and stuff, like the
bartending which I've doneplenty of, which is a nightmare,
it's just you start to feellike you're not worth anything
and it's like when you knowyou're good and it's not working
out, there's nothing you can do.
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It's such a game and you seethe same people getting things
and all of a sudden, there's norhyme or reason to it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It's hard to understand.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Well, it's like one day you can.
And what actually is veryencouraging is when you see
older actors and actresses.
All of a sudden you're likewhere has this person been?
Like they're great, they've hadlike small jobs forever.
And then, finally, are youwatching Paradise?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I loved it.
Jan Nicholson who plays.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Sinatra.
I know she's like worked forforever, but when Mare of
Easttown she was on that I waslike I never.
I was like I never.
I was like she is in fuckingcredible.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And it's just like you see these people and it's
like you think it's kind ofencouraging, though, to see that
.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
OK, it may take a lot longer than I had in my plan,
but you're seeing these.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Absolutely.
Yeah Well, you always.
There's all these articles.
It's like you know, harrisonFord didn't get his first job
till he's 40.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oprah Right.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Harrison Ford didn't get his first job until he was
40.
Oprah did, and they'll say thatand it's like that's fine.
It's just harder now,especially because there's so
many people.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I think it's harder now to make it versus back then.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, in 2000, you were going up for a role against
20, 30, 40 people Yep.
Now I'll get an audition forone line on something to play a
bellhop and they'll bring in 200people.
Now I'll get an audition forlike one line on something like
to play like a bell hop andthey'll bring in 200 people.
And especially now where it'snot.
You're going into a castingroom now with self-tapes.
Anyone can do it anywhere Overthe pandemic.
(14:35):
When self-tapes happened, I wasscrewed.
I didn't have like a home setup.
I didn't have.
I don't have actor friends,cause I would never be friends
with an actor these people thatwere able to live in their
apartments with their roommatesand spend four days getting the
perfect take, when I would haveto pay for a half hour slot and
do an audition with somebody Ididn't know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Right.
So it's just like it's a lotand it's better for me
personally.
I know it's a little bit morenerve wracking maybe to get into
a room with you know, like thecasting director and someone
handling the camera and all thatstuff, but at the end of the
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day I've realized as an actorlike I enjoy feeling that human
connection in the room.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, way easier.
Even having a reader doesn'tlike that.
Call your friend to come overor call I have my friend on like
speakerphone.
Reading from like this is liketerrible 100%.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's just not the same manager, like when the
pandemic was happening in selftapes he's like.
He said flat out I'm like youdidn't have to say that to me.
He was like this is gonnareally affect you because you
win people over in a room and Iwas like thanks, okay, now I'm
going to do this with even moreconfidence because my
personality.
But now I have steve, I have aboyfriend that does it for me.
He what a saint I'll bewatching takes back.
I'm like I said that I treatedhim like that babe, I love you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm sorry we love the supportive significant others
that I was in Tokyo and I had todo a self tape and I'm like,
babe, I need you to hold thisright here.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Okay, exactly talk to me, but don't flip it this.
I need you to hold this righthere, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Exactly.
Talk to me, but don't, don't,don't flip it this way.
I need you to hold it a littlebit like this Okay so.
I can still see it.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, he's getting used to it now.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Now he has like notes .
Now he like is acting.
I'm just like you know, whenyou have friends or people that
don't know you, they're justlike oh, you can't get a job,
you can't book anything.
Steve like he sees it, he'slike I see the struggle, what
you go through, the work you putinto things and you don't see a
dime for, like the work thatyou put in for an audition to
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self-tape.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And it only just happened where they have to give
you 72 hours notice now andthey still don't.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
They still don't and they're like sorry, we know it's
fast and it's like okay, youknow, you know, you said sorry.
And it's like, if you say, well, no, I'm gonna do the 72 hours,
Somebody else will tape itbefore you and they'll choose
them.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, but then they can hold you for, like you know,
five days and they're likeyou're only going to work one of
those days, but you have tohold all five.
And then sometimes you're like,okay, great, and then you get a
message saying you've beenreleased.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I did a job where it was going to be one day of work
and they asked me for conflictsbetween after Thanksgiving to
May of this year and they werelike can we put him on hold for
those months, for one day?
They're like it's probablygoing to be December and we were
like granted, I don't haveanything else coming in, so yes,
but crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, like I said, you had a really awesome like
year or so with, obviously,barbie.
When did you feel like again,your career has gone back for
many, many years?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
that you felt like oh shit, okay, I'm making it like
I'm, I'm catching my stride.
Was it Barbie or was evenbefore that?
Um, you know, I, I it's just,it's like I poor me.
I feel weird saying this, butlike you still, I still don't
necessarily like feel it.
I feel like I am lucky that Iam able to pay the bills with
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this job.
Like I don't know what isconsidered making it, but I
think that is what I considermaking it in order to like pay
the bills um, but barbie waslike.
Barbie was the most insane caseof imposter syndrome like I've
ever felt, like really nearmental breakdowns, like almost
every day flying to london to doit.
(18:21):
I was just the whole plane ride.
I was like I am going to arriveand get fired on this mob.
They're gonna be to be like, oh, you know, that's, that's not
it Every day.
There were days we'd be sittingin the cast chairs and because
everybody that was in that was,like, you know, successful, had
their own shows, had thingscoming up and all this stuff.
And I'm sitting there, we'regoing around one day like, oh,
what does everyone havehappening after this?
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And people I don't know.
I was like, oh, just you know, Iguess I hope this never ends,
yeah, but yeah, being on thatbeing on that set, and you know
the days that the impostersyndrome I could keep it a day.
It was just like I can'tbelieve how lucky I am.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Did you get, when you got the call that you got the
role, did you?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
do you think you were being?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
punked at first, or I have not cried that hard in a
long time, oh, a long time well,because I had auditioned for it
.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It was like super bowl sunday 2022 yes and I our
super bowl weekend and on friday, again, not 72 hours notice I
got the barbie audition and anaudition for this apple tv pilot
that I was like I'm not goingto get Barbie, like I'm not,
I'll focus on that, but theywere both through Sunday.
I'm not going to get Barbie,I'll focus on the pilot Cause
like.
I can do this part.
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So we got up Sunday morning,steve, I was having people over
at the Superbowl.
We taped both auditions thatmorning, submitted them Heard,
heard nothing.
A month later I got a call inthe morning that was like Greta
wants to know if you'reavailable for a meeting in like
an hour.
I was like Greta, who I waslike for what?
They were?
Like Barbie.
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I was like are you kidding?
Yeah, and I sat down with herand it just was like I recorded.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
How was she Like how?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
She's, she's incredible and she incredible
and she is like a super likemusical theater nerd.
So like our meeting, I thinkthat has to be like what you
know.
It tipped it my way we werejust talking about musicals and
dancing and she's like, okay,this guy is.
She wanted barbie to be like amusical theater summer camp,
yeah and that's exactly what itfelt like oh, oh, it was I.
Yeah, I was just like.
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All my life I've been trainingfor this Singing, dancing, being
gay.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Like here we are, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Let's do this.
I love it.
Who are some of your?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
favorite co-stars, I guess, to work with, or did you
have like pre-existingfriendships with anybody?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I didn't know anybody , All right you don't have any
friends that are actors, right,my choice.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And if you are my friend and you're an actor,
you're the only one I mean.
Everybody was so great.
We were all so close.
Shooty and I got super closebecause our trailers are right
next to each other.
Ariana Greenblatt she's theyounger, she is one of my
favorite people on the planet.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
She's so good you can tell.
You can tell that it was like areally close knit fun family
like orientated set the.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Barbies had like a little sleepover thing, but they
invited Shooty and I because, Idon't know.
We're the gay cans.
Yeah, of course, but we hadgame nights where I saw that
America Ferrara was my match interms of rules and game nights
she was as annoying and crazy asI am.
I love it but yeah, we went tothe party bus went to Magic Mike
(21:35):
.
We had a good time.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, and I think that's important too, I'm sure
on set with Cass, creating thoseactual friendships and bonds
outside of yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I got there two weeks before we even started filming,
because Greta wanted all theKens to work out together and
play games Chemistry doesn't lie.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's really important.
That's really cool that she hadthat for you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
She's a beast.
She's incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Were you stereotypical, ken, was that
your?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's what somebody said.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I was like really.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
There's something stereotypical about you.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
We were going to be like what is they all tried to
like, uh, figure that out.
I don't think there was, likeever, a specific thing.
It was just everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
If you could choose one, yeah yeah, what would you
be like?
Scott, you're, you're kenyou're.
You're scott, ken oh god, Idon't know.
See, I'm not really a beach guyokay, I don't know, I hate it
doesn't matter.
Yeah, I hate you, don't?
You don't have to be terrifiedof the ocean.
I hate sand.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm terrified of the ocean, I'm allergic to shellfish
it doesn't want me it doesn'twant me, god, if I could be a
Ken.
Is there like a?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
a WeHo Ken oh, rollerblader Ken probably for
sure, can you rollerblade, I do,rollerblade, you do rollerblade
.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I was rollerblading when I got the call to meet with
Greta and I was like I can'tbecause I'm rollerblading.
And I told her that she's like.
I just decided to putrollerblading in the movie.
I was like, oh please, all myfriends make fun of me you're
the only friend I think I have.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I'm the only person in West Hollywood we need to go
rollerblading.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I'm the only person in West Hollywood that
rollerblades my friends will belike just saw you, you idiot oh,
you're rollerblading down likesunset oh, I'll go on this trip,
I'm all here.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Okay, we're going to do rollerblading Me and Steve.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I got him to sort of get into it.
We would go to the PacificCoast Highway.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
My brother and I grew up rollerblading.
We absolutely love it.
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I love it so much.
Okay, so we need to have arollerblading date.
We have our Heelys.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, we just got, don't either.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We'll see.
We'll have to find out.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
But rollerblades, like roller skates, are
impossible to me.
I put them on, I'm like that'seasier they don't work, I don't
get it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Roller skates are.
I do both, so I can say rollerskates are a little bit harder
than rollerblades.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Listen, as far as the casting director is concerned,
I do both yes, same are youkidding me, I do it all um, well
, I want to talk about your mostrecent project, which is
running point.
I binged it in a day and a half.
It was so good and I reallylike.
I mean this probably isn't agreat quality of mine, but I'm
such a harsh critic with any oflike those shows that come out
like that me too I was hookedfrom the very beginning, so tell
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us about how you got into it.
We love that I told everybodythat I know to go watch it Same.
What was?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
it.
I was saying like I can be sucha hater Like I can, especially
when people like love something,I'll be like I refuse to watch
it, I will hate it.
I don't find anything funny,like I'm such a harsh critic,
and so I was like I just hope Idon't need to find it funny,
like cause I didn't read all thescripts, I was only in like
five of the 10.
I was like I don't care if Idon't find it funny, I just want
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to be able to look at it and belike I know that people will
find it funny yeah.
And we went to the premiere andsaw the first two episodes and
we left and I was like it'sfunny.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's funny it, I think, in gold it's funny, it's
so good, it's so good.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Oh it's so good.
Yeah, and I, yeah, I loved it.
We binged it in.
Steve stayed home from work onthat Thursday.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I was like.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I need to see what I look like.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh yeah, no, we, I let you.
I watched it literally in a dayand a half.
It was like and so well cast,so well cast First of all Justin
Theroux.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I didn't know he could do that.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
He's hilarious I love him.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
He's so funny.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Hilarious, so funny.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, that's the other thing is like we were
watching.
Steve's mother is one of thegreatest women alive.
She's the sweetest, mostincredible human.
And I was like she you know shedoesn't really like swearing
and I was like she can't watchthis.
And she was watching like oneepisode at a time really like.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Just we love it so much.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I'm like they say the f word every other word.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Oh, it's so good.
How did you feel like itcompares like your other roles?
And one thing I've talked toher earlier which I love is just
like as as a gay man.
In hollywood you've gotten toplay mostly like right like
roles being a gay man well, Imean, that's something like they
.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I'm only really getting called in for gay roles,
which is a bummer, um that'sgreat for the community too,
though.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well it is, but then all the best gay roles are going
as great guys yeah and they'rewinning oscars, because how
brave um, oh god, this is gonnaget me in trouble.
Wait that, no, but it's really.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think it's a real, it's a really important
conversation to have in yeah,well, it's like, it's the kind
of thing like it's like let uh,gay men play gay roles and
they're like well then, onlystraight people should play
straight roles.
It's like that's not it yeahthat's not it at all.
there's always been room forstraight people.
Yep, there's always been room,and, like you put one in a
storyline and and so long ithasn't really ever been.
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We're telling this we want agay man for a gay role, because
it's really about being a gayman and what it's like.
It's sort of like yeah, you'rethe gay man, you're the
assistant, you're the, you'rethe best friend you are.
We're going to give you somefunny lines and and so it's kind
of nice to sort of see this,especially see like Drew
(26:50):
Tarver's character, sandy.
It's just sort of he's notsitting there being like girl,
you better put on that necklace.
Right, so I don't know it's niceand I don't know it's very
strange when it comes to thatconversation.
It's a very hard conversationto have because I go, I go back
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and forth, but you let thepeople tell their own stories
for now and until there's sixgay men in a series, in an
episode, then a straight guy canplay it.
But, that's why we're sayinglet us play our roles and tell
our stories.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
If you're going to put us in things it's in.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You know there's all this.
They really want things to bediverse and inclusive, but you
know, when it's just you're justcasting somebody because of the
color of their skin and notbecause it has anything to do
with the role, that also doesn'twork for me?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
no, right, it doesn't work for me.
It's other stories, right,exactly, so exactly, and that's
important.
I mean what, um, are some likefunny moments that you can like
give us from behind the scenesof running for those who maybe
who haven't watched it too, likejust overall yeah what people
should expect, why they shouldwatch it and maybe like some
little things that maybe theywouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I mean I I not necessarily a funny thing, but
hello, I got to spend a wholeday sitting behind macaulay
culkin yeah I mean, yeah, howwas that was your first
conversation?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
well, I just didn't, was it?
I know people hate all yourmovies.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I just didn't, but I love him.
It's like listen, I'm a toughjudge, I know people love it, I
don't.
No, it was just, I didn't evenrealize it at first.
I remember seeing him beinglike is that my gollygoggin?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
That's a gollygog.
Didn't realize.
Yeah, I didn't realize thatuntil this year, I know.
And then she is.
She's crazy watching her careeramazing yeah, she's great.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Um well, I've known kate for like for a while.
Okay, I've been to some epicgame.
She has, uh, some really crazygame nights I could imagine yeah
, I uh, I we like with biggroups and she hadn't had one
for a while and just had one Ithink like two years ago, and
she texted me and I was like oh,I thought I wasn't getting the
(28:55):
invite anymore.
And she's like I haven't had onesince last night and I'm like,
okay, great good, I'll like takeback all the bad things I said
about you, but yeah, it's likeyou're sitting there in a room
and I'm like these are all a lotof celebrities and everything
and I'm like I don't give a shitIf I think you're Mavia, you're
out yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
You don't know me in a game you will die.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
No, yeah, okay, kate Hudson, let's talk about working
with her.
She is just like the queen.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
She's just like yeah, and she's like it's sort of
like she was back in the day.
She was like queen of therom-com.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like how to Lose a.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Guy in 10 Days is like a perfect movie and like
this she.
First of all it's in thegenetics, because Goldie.
Hawn.
I grew up.
What a star.
And then, Kate, it's just sortof like people will give people
shit for like the nepo babystuff she's proven herself.
But if you have, the chops toback it up exactly.
(29:55):
Doesn't matter who her parentswere, because she would have got
the part anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah anyway, she's so good, she's so good, and she
does everything.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
She's doing music.
Is she doing music now?
We all as a cast went to likeher like performance, her
concert and she's promoting it.
And I all as a cast went tolike her like performance, her
concert and she's promoting itand I'm like and you got kids
like I literally can barely wakeup yeah, what about mindy?
mindy's great.
I didn't see her that muchbecause she she would like come
in and out, but like there wasat kate's concert, I just
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remember like she came walkingin and I hadn't met her yet.
It was like towards the earlierside of the shoot and she just
came walking in and I hadn't mether yet.
It was towards the earlier sideof the shoot and she just came
walking in and saw me.
She was like oh, I was justwatching the dailies, You're so
good.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I was like okay, oh, that's so good, I love that.
Okay, many kids.
We love when people give thecredit when it's there you do
auditions and they don't giveyou any positive feedback.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's like the amount that that does for just your.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
You know your overall confidence everyone in this
industry has imposter syndromefor sure.
So exactly, and then the morelike someone like steve, like a
boyfriend or a seat of the othersays it to you, you're like I
am bad, yeah like you tell meI'm good, I'm like, that means
I'm horrible, exactly.
I don't believe you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yes, it is a very strange.
Like yeah, like we said, likeimposter syndrome imposter
syndrome I feel like really doeshappen in everybody, especially
in this creative field.
It's it's hard because yourcreate, your creativity is your
own authenticity, so sometimesthat doesn't resonate with other
people and you feel like yourauthenticity isn't authentic
(31:23):
enough or you have to mold intosomething else totally.
Totally, which is just like ugh, no, f, fuck, that Can we say
can we say customers on here?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's not for the faint of heart, fuck that Okay.
Well then, mindy, I know sherecently just got her star on.
She did and then it wasn't thesame day or same weekend that
you got renewed for season two.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, were you like had to call yourself about it.
I was expecting Running Pointto do well and then it just kept
doing well.
The most shocking thing wasgetting messages or texts from
close people in my life beinglike, oh my god, what a surprise
.
Just saw you show up at RunningPoint.
I'm like am I not showing up onInstagram?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I've told you guys I only post every four months With
that algorithm, though you'reprobably not showing up on
Instagram.
I've told you guys Well, I onlypost every like four months
With that algorithm, thoughyou're probably not showing up
on there.
Not at all, doesn't make anysense.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But then, like when it's like stayed at number one
and it kept like doing so well,I was like this is crazy and the
reviews were good.
Some of the early reviews I wasworried about that came out
right at midnight when itreleased like the top ones.
I was like reading them reviewsby like top women critics.
I was like I hate on this thisis like a woman-led
like woman like come on support.
(32:37):
And uh, I was worried that thatwas going to catch fire and it
just didn't yeah, it's justpeople I love people couldn't
hate it, even if they, like you,don't know someone else.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
If you want to talk about nepo babies, who we're not
saying he's a nepo baby, butTom.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Hanks was on the show .
Chet Hanks, how is he?
His character was one of myfavorites.
He killed it.
I'll tell you this so funny.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Well, if I searched Chet Hanks right now in my
messages more than probably sixseven, eight, my sister like
people just being like hey,how's Chet Hanks?
I Like people just being likehey, how's Chad Hanks?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'm like why, why, why do you want to know?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I just I don't know Is he, he's hot right, I was
like everybody is so into it.
I'm like that is so funny.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well, yeah, the people want to know.
I mean hello, it's so funny.
He was a great person to workwith on set.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I never scenes with dogs.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, it's so funny.
People don't realize thateither.
I know People don't realizelike oh, you're in a show with
somebody.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
But you think I know that you're in the scenes with
everybody.
You may not see that at all,even like movies, like movies
that shoot like separately never.
We're never, never togetherlike it's.
Yeah, I know well overall.
Congratulations on all yoursuccess and everyone, please go
watch running.
Yeah, I'm back for season two.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I'm so glad I mean gosh.
Is it too like spoilers,spoiler coming up next.
I'm so glad that you workedyour relationship out on the
show because I was like, no, Ineed scott again, and I feel I
was so like moved by yourperformance, especially the
scene, I think, at the game,when you started getting
emotional it was so sweet.
Drew is so sweet, so good, andI love him and close his um.
(34:16):
Was it the other two?
Yeah?
yeah, yeah, loved him and thattoo, he's, he's, he's so good
what's in your mind, things youstill want to accomplish in
hollywood, like what kind ofroles would you like to play,
would you like?
I know you love horror movies.
Would you love to do like aslasher?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
oh for sure for sure there was.
Um years ago.
There was a script that I read,this, this horror movie that I
had got the offer for and, likeit never got off the ground and
I think about it all the time.
When I say years ago, I meanlike 20 years ago and it was
supposed to be with, uh, ryanquanton.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Okay, do you know him I?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
don't.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Is he a horror guy?
Is he True?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Blood.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I never saw True Blood Me neither, because
everybody loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Anyway, he's gorgeous Vampire Diaries.
I can talk about it.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
But it never happened .
So that's a side tidbit.
But roles I'd like to play it'snot really not many.
I am writing, I would love, Iwould love, love, love to just
write and be a writer for a showand a series and never have to
worry about what I look like.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Really.
So if you could choose, you'dbe back like writing and not
being on camera, oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean I love it, it's just, it's the stress
it puts I mean I have have.
I mean I have issues, I'm apsychopath we all do, why do?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
you think we all live in freaking West Hollywood
auditioning totally well.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And then the entertainment business is just
also.
It just breeds mental illness,it just breathes stories yeah,
right, it's like.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean, I think I've been here for 18 years in los
angeles and the amount ofstories that I have that I could
write about is insane, so maybewe should get together, we we
would all we would all havecrazy stories.
What a show we would createexactly.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well, it starts from, like you know, having to go to
a costume fitting.
I will spiral, I'll just belike I just hate this, like I
just you just like you justconstantly, and and then it's,
you're just constantly pickedapart everything and I'm kind of
just like I would just love tobe that you, you be the outline
you're like the outline thatyou're filling.
Everything I would love to bein in charge like a showrunner
(36:23):
when we were doing.
Barbie, there were so many days.
Ryan Gosling would be like he'dlook at me and be like do you
ever do you ever like produce ordirect?
And I was like no, why he'slike or stage manage or
showrunner?
I was like why?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Were you given that?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
like Bible.
Well, I, just I am very like,even growing up, I'm a Virgo, I
I am a perfectionist.
I would you know, I'd go homeand I would practice and I would
know everything.
And if somebody had a question,if nobody was ready to answer
it, I'd be ready to answer it.
The day that we did the KenBallet, the I'm Just Ken.
We had one day to do it andpeople didn't know the lyrics to
(36:56):
the song.
People didn't really know, theydidn't learn the moves, and we
were behind and Greta came outand she goes Scott, I need you
to take over for a little bitand teach everyone the lyrics
and the dance.
And I was like this is mymoment.
This is what my controllingpsychosis is finally, and I did,
(37:17):
and I, you know, I want toframe the text she sent me later
that day, just being like yeah,I couldn't have done this day
without you.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I was like what like a moment of finally, like that
probably just shed us on thatimposter syndrome, because you
realize, oh, this is what.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Maybe I meant, yeah, well then I'm like should I
maybe just go control something?
Yeah, it's like growing updoing plays.
It's like somebody missed thatscene change.
I'd be like Stephanie.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, she missed it.
Are you like a type that willlike say as they're?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
saying them oh, I will know them if they fuck up,
I'll know them, I will mouththem, I'll know everything.
That's so great.
Yeah, it's annoying.
Try dating them.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Bless your husband's heart.
Yeah, if you weren't an actor,what do you think you would?
I mean, I don't know if that'sever crossed your mind Homicide
detective, I'm not to get awaywith murder so I can help.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Law and order.
Svu detective Like that's whatI would want to be.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
That would be too tough.
The second I got anythinginvolving kids, I'd be like okay
.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, I know, I just, oh, I love it, but yeah, any
kind of forensic homicide,private detective, which it's
not.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
if I wasn't an actor, that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
It could still happen , that could still happen.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I do it now.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I've hired a PI on some exes before, so I'll know
to just call you.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Call me, you need to find something, my brother.
People will text me.
They'll be like oh, I don'tknow this.
I'm like I got you Within a fewminutes.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Oh, good to know, You're like, I will figure this
out that right, there is goingto be a future TV show, not like
an actual scripted show.
I also save everything Receipt.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I got receipts.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You'll come there with, like the papers.
Well, listen, on this date.
I never said that.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yes you did.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I mean okay, so I know that growing up as being in
a creative and like dance andacting and all these things,
Like my cousins and I would Makehome videos all the time Is
that something that you and yoursiblings did growing up?
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Oh, we need the tapes .
Talk about videos.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I think Chris has them locked in a vault somewhere
.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, chris, we need those videos now, me and my
siblings, we would put on playsin the basement all the time.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
We did every Disney movie.
We did everything.
We did a lotney movie.
We did everything, we did a lot.
Yeah, and my dad had acamcorder.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So that's great.
That's what we did too duringsummer, like summer vacation,
like we.
We filmed a whole movie.
It was called the klutz I had.
I had like crispies right herebecause my lips were cracking,
but it didn't matter, right,because you're just like in the
camera, like all these thingsthat you're.
You look, look back, you'relike, oh okay.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
That's what I say, I think.
I think God every day that Ididn't have iPhone or Instagram
in high school and college Same.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I mean, we're the last generation, right, the last
generation.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That's what it was like before and after College
would have been so bad.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So bad.
I mean the receipts peoplewould have of me in college.
I'm glad those don't exist.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
That's why you see kids post things today.
I'm like who isn't warning them?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I know I mean the receipts that my friends have
from Facebook.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It's like I deleted my Facebook and all that, all
those Facebook time hops thatremind you how much of a little
shit you were, and the mostembarrassing status updates that
we would, leo and I we onlysend each other old Facebook
statuses and 2008, 2009,something was going on with us.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
It's literally me on a toilet.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Every other day.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
It's me on a toilet in Ladoo Like stop, oh, those
like the little peace sign,that's not really a peace sign.
It's like I don't know whatthis is, but my mom was like
you're going to be embarrassedone day.
And now I do look back and I'mlike you're right, mom, like oh
you should.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
What I used to wear.
I loved a loose tie.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
No yo you should see some of these pictures.
They're crazy.
Yeah, do you have any of thosethat you could send us?
Yeah, we're gonna need to seethose.
Oh, yeah, like the big beltbuckles right here, like what
were they?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
like this is my rib cage, not my arm bands.
This was a sweat arm bandsright here in the middle of my
forearm.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I thought you were about to go play in the NBA or
something, absolutely All thetime.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
We'll pull some of those on our social media, don't
you worry you mentioned yourbrother, chris Chris Evans, for
those who don't know who we'retalking about, captain.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
America.
There's not another Chris Evansno.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Another, chris Evans.
He I know we have a mutualfriend, josh, who just talks
about.
Y'all have such a goodrelationship.
How has he been with watchingyour success and his support?
Speaker 3 (41:29):
He's great when I got Barbie.
He's so supportive, he'sincredibly supportive and we are
supportive of each other.
This is one of my favoritethings.
I mean not favorite.
Well, you'll hear when he'slike he'll be shooting something
.
And if he's having like a badday or like an imposter syndrome
(41:51):
day or feeling like he's notdoing whatever, I will get the
text and it'll just be like man,I am having, I am horrible,
whatever.
And I'm like I love the factthat I am the support system
because I will gas him up,because I'm not lying, yeah,
like I just hate when he thinksthat he's not worth it, like
because I think he's supertalented and there's a hey shout
(42:14):
out to a movie.
There's a movie called Puncturethat he did from like years ago,
that he is so fucking good atwe're gonna go watch that.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
People need to see it .
Speaker 3 (42:23):
We will go watch that , yeah and I just remember
watching it, being like youshould have every award, that's
ever existed.
He's so good um, but I love him.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
He's super supportive , he's, he's, you know, my best
friend oh, he's my friend wealways say it's like you're my
first friend yeah, and that's soimportant because I'm sure
there's a lot of siblings inhollywood and I feel like you
have seen, sometimes like thatdivide in that competition yeah,
there's um.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
See, I think we we also lucked out the fact that
I'm gay.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Y'all didn't ever have to fight for the same
ladies.
He'll always say thank God,you're gay, we don't have to do
that.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
And then he'll be like man.
If I was gay, I would kill itin the gay world and I'm like
you, aren't gay and you'realready killing it in the gay
world, aren't you?
We're like the same height Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Or would you say you're the cuter one?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I don't know he's got abs, I've got a tan.
Okay, we're on equal playingfield Balance.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Well listen, we do only have about 15 minutes left.
I thought we'd play a littlefun drinking game.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Great, I've already been drinking, you've already
been drinking.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's called sip or spill.
So I'm going to ask you somequestions and it's kind of
self-explanatory.
If you don't want to answer thequestion, you just admit your
guilt and you drink.
I am so excited for this.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I'm scared Should we sip with him too, we can sip
Solidarity.
Vanessa, do you want to kick itoff?
Yes, okay, worst date you'veever been on.
You know it.
Actually, I'm going to namenames.
No, you know it.
Actually, I'm going to namenames, okay please do Wait.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
no, I'm not Actually.
Yes, I am.
I went on a date with PeterThiel one of the original
investors of Facebook.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Like the rich.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Republican, he's gay, and we went to like this insane
, like fancy restaurant forlunch, uh-huh, and the only
thing on the menu that Irecognized that I could order
was like the pheasant and likehe was awful.
Oh, that's second worst name.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Oh, you can continue.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
What's the first?
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh, it's another name drop.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Actually no, this one's still Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
I can't do it yet, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I'll tell you after, though.
Next, because it was horrible.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Okay, I love how he's sipping, anyway, I cried on the
way home from the date have youever had an on-set crush?
Or like starstruck.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Oh, I think it was just that.
Oh, on-set crush.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Okay, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
I mean, are you allowed to say a name or
anything?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Or are you sipping.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
See, I don't think this is going to be like a good
answer for you, but I like had asuper crush on Martin Sheen.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Okay, wow, grace and Frankie, yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
He is just the most person like the sweetest.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I actually sent a picture of me and Martin Sheen
to one of my cousins once andshe showed her daughter and she
goes oh, is that Scott's twoboyfriends?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
And I was like what is she doing?
Out here, what is this?
That's great, great.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Okay, that's a good one.
Okay, next one what is the mostridiculous Hollywood rumor
about yourself that you've heardand you're like wait.
What?
Speaker 3 (45:14):
That my net worth is $3.2 million.
Don't you love those net?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
worth things.
I'm so rich on the internet.
I googled it and I'm like whereShow where?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Show me the money, but even if I had not spent a
dime and kept every penny fromevery job I've had, it wouldn't
be that my friend Jimmy alwayssays he's like if you are worth
3.2 million, this is the longestcon we've ever seen, I never
pick up a tab and we go outevery day again.
No, I do, but it's like my last$5.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
3.2.
Where have?
No, I do, but it's like my last$5.
3.2.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Have you ever hooked up with a fan?
Well, they're going to know,because I only have one fan.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
No, yes, okay, wow Okay, I wish we could have more,
but I didn't know until themorning After.
That's happened to me andthat's awkward as hell.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
It's the worst thing ever, because they said
something like.
I don't even remember what theysaid, but it was sort of just
like oh, by the way, I saw youon he's like I loved you on that
and started like naming myresume.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's like nauseating a little bit and I was like
you're gonna go tell everybodyand he may have had photos on
his phone of you sleeping.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
You know, like you never know which, honestly I
mean the situation has beenreversed.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I'm supposed to be, the one that I'm a fan of and
told everybody oh, my God, okay,name a co-star you wouldn't
work with again.
What's the wildest thing you'vedone at an industry party?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I feel like you can't I would love for you to say it.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
I know exactly what it is, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
We're going to lunch after this.
I can't wait to hear.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
I showed a picture of my private part to a very
A-list Oscar-winning actress.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
That is incredible.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
And she loved it and we have done it all, of course
she did.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Of course she did.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
But that's not the wildest thing.
I'm absolutely telling you thething.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Oh yeah, I don't even know if we could say the
wildest thing on air that we'vedone?
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh, absolutely not.
Now, what's the mostembarrassing thing you've ever
done when you were drunk, I mean, I can't even remember half the
things.
Probably that's why blackoutsexist, so you don't have to
remember the things.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
I mean the first thing that comes to mind is I
went when I went to the greatestSuper Bowl that ever existed,
the Patriots in Houston.
I was there, my friend Bo livedin Houston, and I went out with
him and a couple of his friendsLike we were on like a group
chat and I was home in my hotelroom.
(47:49):
It was like 2.30 in the morningand I texted one of them and
like two minutes later he hadn'tresponded.
So I texted the other one and Icopy-pasted and they the next
day sent it to their group chat.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
No, no, oh shit, okay , yeah, literal copy paste
within minutes and then beautexted me the next day.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
He was like yo send me a screenshot.
I was like so I guess I shouldjust kill myself, like this is
you will never see me again ohmy god, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Okay, what's?
Let's go.
What's the most annoyingcelebrity you've ever met?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I'm choosing the ones that are like I know he's going
to sip on this question righthere.
Scott, thank you, I'm so gladwe did this.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
You're one of the coolest people that I know.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Oh well, please, You're the first.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
And I'm excited to see where your career goes from
here, whether it's just morelike big roles, season two of
Running Point or your writing.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
you know Fingers crossed and we're going to be in
it.
Yeah, we are going to be in it.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Trust me, the when I make something, my friends will
produce it, they will cast it,they will direct it.
They will star in it, they willedit it, they will do it all.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Because the beautiful thing about being a creative is
that other creatives havecreative friends.
Yeah, and we're all so talented.
It's so fun to come up together.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yes, your house ever was, you know yeah.
Yeah, I mean, we know he haslike 10, but you know you and
your friends are all theretogether like damn it, like we
did this together yeah, and Ijust know that they have the
talent and they deserve it andit's just like you got to get
that foot in the door andabsolutely you know and
sometimes, like we said, withsocial media and like how it is
now.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
You almost do have to do things on your own and make
them something yeah, and then itgets picked up, or then it gets
Rachel Bloom, my craziestgirlfriend.
Brian Jordan Alvarez, englishteacher write your own, write
your own thing, yep tell yourown stories, tell your own
stories that's the theme of thisentire thing and then pretend
like it's not about you.
Yes, because, boy, we got a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Okay, we have a lot.
Where can people find yousocial medias?
Where can we look for you?
Speaker 3 (50:02):
next I'm on Instagram .
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah, scott Evans Graham.
What's your other Scott EvansInstagram.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
I am Scott Evans.
Okay, I think, or that's hisTwitter.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I don't know my Twitter, but yours is at Scott
Evans.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
At Scott Evans Graham .
Graham, okay, it used to be,Mary Queen of Scots, wow.
And then when my managers werelike you should change that,
because it was Queen Q-W-E-E-N.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
No, I love it.
Mary, queen of Scots Mary.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Queen of Scots I wanted to do X marks the Scot
Somebody had it.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
That's so cute.
What loves Scott to?
Speaker 3 (50:32):
do with it.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Oh, my God.
I kind of think you should goback and figure this out.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
I wish.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
That's going to be the intro.
I was like what's Scott have todo with it?
Speaker 3 (50:44):
no, my podcast or my memoir, is going to be called
Over my Dad Body, literally.
That's really clever.
You're clever, literally.
I love a pun.
You should be a writer.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
I'm a big fun person.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Alright, everyone.
Thanks so much for joining uson this episode of.
Milk and Honey.
Thanks again, scott.
Thank you, scott, and.
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