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Speaker 1 (00:14):
hello everybody.
Welcome back to another episodeof milk and honeys.
I hope you haven't forgottenyet.
I'm sure you haven't, but weare your hosts, kayla becker and
vanessa curry.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I didn't write your
name I just wanted you to say it
yourself.
I know and I can't rememberyour co-host name, vanessa curry
.
I know this.
We're friends for real, okay,you can?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
you can look it up,
check back instagram.
Uh, we're very early in on thisfirst season of milk and honey,
so we do want to give you guysa little rundown again of what
we're about.
The name it's not an OnlyFanstitle, although someone did tell
me Milk and Honey sounds alittle suggestive.
That's not what we meant it tobe, but we love that it's
suggestive.
It's suggestive, but that's notour point.
(00:54):
No, we've been, you know,active lately on social media,
which has been really exciting,kind of giving you guys a bit of
a back story about what we areabout.
But the whole point is youdrink your tea, right, vanessa?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes.
What do you put in your tea?
You put the right ingredientsin your tea.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You put the right
ingredients in your tea, which
is milk, and honey, which isKayla and Vanessa.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And who is who
Doesn't matter.
Let you decide who's milk andwho's honey?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
No, but yeah, welcome
back.
And on our first episode wekind of ran down a little bit of
our personal backstories, howwe got to LA, what we do in the
industry, but figured we mightdive a little bit deeper this
episode.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I think that's a good
idea.
I think people deserve to knowthey deserve.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, we talked
about this.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, we talked about
this.
Do they deserve to know?
Or if they're listening andthey're watching us and
supporting us supporting us, youdeserve.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You deserve it then
you deserve it, yeah, um, well,
let's go back into we don't goall the way back into how we got
here, um, but maybe the reasonwhy, la, you're from california,
you're not from los angeles,yes, but you've been in the
entertainment industry for avery long time, very long time,
and anyone who knows anythingabout the entertainment industry
for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Very long time, and
anyone who knows anything about
the entertainment industry knowsthat Los Angeles is the place
to be, although that is shiftinga little bit, we're seeing it
is, which is great, right, Imean just it gives more
opportunity for everyone, whichis nice, but LA still is the
place where, if you are in LA,people are like, oh, they're
(02:24):
doing it, you know, which is,which is weird, because
technically, you can do itanywhere with social media.
It's been such a great um, partof, like, the access to make a
name for yourself, which isawesome, um, but yeah, but I
mean I've I've been here notdoing social media.
Uh, I love social media and Ilove the opportunities that come
(02:45):
with social media, but I'mstill out here auditioning,
doing self tapes, doing all thethings that I've been doing and
yeah, it's a journey.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And there's a lot of
stresses stress factors that go
into living in Los Angeles butthere are a lot of positives,
including the careers that we'vebeen able to make by being out
here.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Absolutely, you have
any like, I guess, funny or
cringe worthy stories of likethe hollywood life that you've
lived I was booked for acommercial and I was told that I
was gonna be wearing basicallywhat you're wearing, like pants
and a top.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know so like the
typical outfit for every human
being every day, when I leaveyour house wearing bottoms and
tops.
Bottoms and tops yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And got to set at,
around you know, 9.30 in the
morning, the artist that we wereshooting with.
I won't mention who this artistis, but the artist hadn't
gotten there yet.
This was hours and hours andhours of waiting, doing hair and
makeup.
We finally the artist getsthere.
(03:48):
We go into the trailer.
There's three of us.
We all got booked to be themain person, but the artist was
going to choose who they wantedto be the main person that day,
which we did not know thatthat's like so much like
childhood trauma.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Right there, red
rover, let vanessa come over
like when I and I last person,chosen or not chosen?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
so they let one of
the girls go, okay which was
horrific.
I mean, like she literally likeblocked out her day for this.
She gets, she comes to set,gets makeup, hair, hair and
makeup ready and they let her go.
So then there's two of us leftand they're like, okay, well,
we're just going to use you guys, um, on on a couch scene, so
(04:34):
you're going to be sitting andlike hanging out, blah, blah,
blah.
Fine, you know whatever.
Um, this is about 10 PM atnight, okay, mind you, we got
there at 9, 9, 9.30 in themorning and they're ready to
shoot now, of course.
So we go downstairs, me and theother actress are waiting, and
(04:54):
all of a sudden we go into thisroom and there's, you know,
lingerie on the floor.
And the director comes in andis like, oh, you guys are going
to be wearing these.
And I said, well, we were toldwe were wearing what we're
wearing now jeans and like aT-shirt, and hanging out on the
couch.
And they're like, oh well, youauditioned in a bikini.
(05:16):
And I looked at him and I saidI auditioned for the lead role.
This is not the lead role Goodfor you.
And the other girl.
You could tell she was a littlebit newer, so I kind of felt
like I had to take her under mywing and say no, no, no, you're
not putting that on until theythey pay you the right amount.
You know, it's like usuallywhen you're in lingerie or you
know, even for anything likethat has to do with altering
(05:38):
your body or your face or yourhair or whatever, you get paid
an extra fee.
That's usually how it is.
No, no, no.
The director comes in.
I told him that he storms offand I immediately you could tell
the makeup artist was standingnext to me.
She could tell I was going tostart crying.
It's weird.
I never want to be a nuisanceon set.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
No, but you stand up
for your values and the fact you
were there to you know, tell ayounger woman to do the same.
I mean, did you have that whenyou were coming up?
Someone who was maybe somethingon set happened similar to that
who was like, no, don't youknow, stand up for yourself I
didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I had to learn on my
own, unfortunately.
So whenever I am on set and Iknow that I've been in this
industry for oh my gosh goshalmost almost 20, 20 years now,
it's like I feel it's my duty tomake sure that they're
protected too, and so I wasreally proud of myself.
The makeup artists who wasthere with me like bless her she
.
She helped me and she was likedo not cry, do not give them
(06:40):
that.
And um yeah, so that that wasit we.
I ended up getting paid double.
Okay, I called my man, my agent, and she said we are going to
get you more money or you canwalk off set.
She was so supportive.
So again, get people who are onyour side, because I know
there's a lot of agents who'd belike what's the problem?
But my agent was like no, no,no, if you don't feel
(07:04):
comfortable wearing this, thendon't it was a woman, by the way
.
Who was a woman helped a lot tooyeah, pam pam love you, pam
lyles love you.
She had my back a thousandpercent and, like I said, like
it was lingerie but it was likea bikini, but still.
But it's the point and youweren't.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's the principle
you know, you weren't notified
beforehand that you'd have to dothis.
Nope, they were makingassumptions.
Probably thought they couldtake advantage.
You should just be thankful forthis opportunity, which is
something especially as women.
We hear a lot in this business,and you should just be thankful
.
Do what you're told.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Be a good girl yeah,
and and move on.
And the last thing, I'll closeit out sitting on the couch,
okay, I worked with this pabefore, so I knew him.
And we said hi and blah, blah.
He comes up to me, he goes I'mso sorry to have to ask you this
.
And I said what are you aboutto ask me?
And he goes um, the artistwants to know if you'd be okay
being topless after all of that.
(07:58):
And I said I just laughed, Isaid I think you have the wrong
girls and also like where's thiscommercial going?
Cause it's not going ontelevision.
No, and I obviously said no, uh, we did one one shot of that
take.
We were released and when Iwent into the room where the
(08:20):
hair and makeup was set up andour all the wardrobe was set up,
they had hired wardrobe was setup.
They had hired um sex workers tocome in and do that role really
yep they were all wearing likeblack like silky robes, getting
you know oiled up, which is fine, it's fine that makes.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That would make sense
to be in the beginning.
That's how it should have been,but not for a commercial like
commercial.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know network
broadcast, you're never gonna
see naked people on.
I, I hope not.
I mean, I don't, I don't thinkso you know, yeah, not.
So yeah, cringe.
Well, high five.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm proud of you oh,
that's women supporting women
and just entertainers standingup for themselves.
Absolutely, would you say thatmay have been one of the harder
lessons you've had to learn.
Come I mean again you.
It's been almost 20 years sinceyou've started this journey and
you've seen a lot that a lot ofpeople haven't seen, and you've
been able to grow a lot andlearn a lot, but that right
there was at a pretty yeah thatwas a pretty pivotal lesson.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I knew that I would
not allow people to take
advantage of me.
I've allowed that in the past.
Just because you know, Istarted this industry when I was
15 and I wanted to doeverything.
I wanted to say yes toeverything, which I think you
should right.
Everything that feels good toyou say yes.
But and I always want to goabove and beyond for a client,
(09:40):
always.
That's just my nature.
It's how my mom raised me, likewe go above and beyond, we give
110%, not just a hundredpercent.
So I never want to bedisrespectful on set or anything
like that.
But that was the moment where Iwas like no, you're actually
being disrespectful to me andI'm not somebody.
I'm not an 18 year old girlwho's who doesn't know anything.
I think I was maybe 26 at thetime.
(10:01):
So at this point I'd been inthe industry for 10 years, yeah,
and and I said no, no, we'renot, we're not doing that,
unless you think you've lostjobs or opportunities because of
standing up for yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I know there's, you
know, a list actresses who can
attest to being put down andlike or put on the back burner
or blacklisted in Hollywoodbecause they may have spoken up
for themselves.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Right?
I don't think so.
I I definitely try to do it ina very respectful way.
I'm never trying to come atanybody aggressive.
I think that's important.
It's how you uh respond to thesituation.
In that situation, the directorwalks in and tries to make me
feel uncomfortable and I'm likeno, no, no bro walks in and
(10:45):
tries to make me feeluncomfortable and I'm like no,
no, no bro, like, don't do thatto me, I'm not.
Yeah, this is not my firstrodeo.
You know, I know how this works.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I feel like that.
That situation is portrayed alot in even movies about being
in Hollywood you know, about thedirectors, the producers, and
like the fact you have to likesleep with one to maybe get a
role, how I guess accurate are alot of like the examples that
we see in movies and televisionand to what happens in reality.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I think it's, I think
it's all situational.
To be honest, I really do.
I I think, look, some peoplewill get good roles because they
maybe have a close-knitrelationship with the producer
or the director or something.
You know, it's just.
But also, I I think it's like Isaid, I think it's very
situational and, and it's youright, I'm not willing to, I'm
(11:34):
not willing to have sex to getmy way to the top.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Hell yeah, good for
you have sex only because you
feel like it because you want to, because you want because you
want to only spread them if youwant to okay like uh, if we get
merch, that's gonna be on it,spread them only if you want to
oh my god, we're gonna.
We're gonna get into some more.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Uh, I feel like I've
been interviewing you this, I
know, I know, maybe that mightbe a thing you should come in
and interview me for an episodetoo.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yes, um, I think we
should play our game, though,
before we get into more deepquestions.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Questions because we
are fun.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We're not all giving
you all the doom and gloom of
hollywood.
We love hollywood or wewouldn't be living here.
Obviously, absolutely.
Um, it's very expensive,parking isn't free, the homeless
, it's pretty you'll.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's.
The homeless is like thehomeless is up and down.
Sometimes they're really nice,sometimes you're buying them.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I do if you're if
you're going to a taco truck
after like a club or something,expect a homeless person to come
up to you and be like heyquesadilla and you're like, and
you're like okay, you bring itback and it's not exactly what
they wanted, though they willtell you, yeah, like, oh, I
don't like sour cream yeah, okay, and you're like okay, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry, yes, I'll do.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'll do better next
time um, okay, what game?
Do you have for us?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
because this is more
getting to know us yes, this
game is called she's wiping thedust, let me just dust it off
for a second hold on, we're notreally strangers.
Oh yeah, I don't even know whatthis game is about.
So, again, I'm not the deeperperson she is.
(13:09):
So, as we continue doing thisshow together, we need to get
closer.
Yep.
So this is the way we're goingto do it, so I guess I'll let
you start.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
When I try to ask
Kayla to do three cleansing
breaths, she gives me one.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And then the other
two.
She's like what are we doingWith an attitude, With an
attitude, A very attitudecleansing breath, Literally by
the third one.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I open my eyes and
she's staring at me like this Is
this breath not done?
She's like what are we doing?
I'm like three cleansingbreaths girl.
Okay, so we're going to dive in.
There's three separate sections, but I think we should just
like.
Easier to hard, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I liked it.
Let's keep it easy.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I think it's like
light to deep Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Not easier to hard,
but light to deep.
Yeah, how I perceive emotionsEasy to hard.
So we're just going to like.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Let's just pick it
off.
Yeah, let's just pick the firstone.
And this is level one.
Is perception Great?
So first question is how many?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
how many speeding
tickets do you think I've gotten
in my life?
Well, I feel like, OK, I'mgoing to answer this really
quickly, because when I look atyou and I feel like you could
get out of pretty much anyspeeding ticket or law violation
ever just by smiling andlaughing.
So I would say no more, I'd saytwo Close.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
One.
I've had one speeding ticket.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We are over a quarter
away through our lives.
More than that, she said one.
We've been driving for almost20 years.
No, literally One speedingticket.
Congratulations, I'm reallyhappy for you, I literally,
literally.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
and the one speeding
ticket I couldn't get out
because it was my first one.
I was crying, so I was likeplease don't get.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Were you actually
crying or was that like the
acting coming in like?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
no, I was crying.
It was late at night, it thecop pulled me over.
I was also scared too, becauseI've been hearing all these
stories at the time of, likecops pretending to be cops, and
so I think I was scared.
I called my mom and, like, justleft her on the phone.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
So how old are you at
this point?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I must have been 20.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Oh my gosh, vanessa,
yeah, yeah, have you gotten
pulled over before though?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
and gotten out of
them.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Have you gotten
pulled over before, though, and
gotten out of them?
No?
So, you never.
Even you must be a great driver.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well, I've gotten
into my fair share of accidents,
okay so, but not your fault,because you didn't get a ticket
Right, but you know, it's like50-51, like who's really at
fault.
It's like most of the time I'mthe 51%.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
The one behind the
car that gets hit is what I've
been told.
I've had like seven, at leastseven speeding tickets, no way
Like.
But I've never been able to getout.
I can't turn on the waterworks,I can't.
I get really sassy and I get itfrom my great grandmother.
Rest in peace, granny.
She was a sassy lady and shewas around 90, 90, she was
probably 90 years old and I'msaying I'm doing an accent
(16:09):
because we're from the South.
Ma'am, do you know why I pulledyou over and she goes?
Why, officer?
And he goes?
Because you were going too fastand she goes, or, officer, you
were going too slow.
Stop it right now.
She got her license revokedafter that because it's like you
shouldn't be driving at 90anyway.
And so I have that sameattitude I get pulled.
(16:29):
I've gotten.
Every time I've gotten pulledover, I've gotten a ticket,
typically like a really highticket, lots of points on my
license.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So yeah, but not yet
in Los Angeles.
Knock on wood.
That's amazing.
That's amazing, yeah, but Imean, everyone drives reckless
in Los Angeles, you're supposedto run the red lights here I.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
When I first moved
here I got cars mad at me
because I didn't run the leftturn After it turns red, you are
still supposed to turn.
Oh, I didn't do that becauseI'm from the South, we don't do
that.
Oh, that was a big thing.
I had a car chase me down.
Tell me to roll down my windowto say pull out to the middle
when you're in the left lane.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, but you guys
probably have more left arrow,
left turn arrows.
We like where are the left turnarrows?
We have to, we have to wait forthe other cars to go and then
you know, take a chance and belike I'm gonna make that left
and then all of a sudden it'sred and you're in the middle of
the road and you gotta make theleft.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
yeah well, I grew up
in a town with no stoplights,
like my town, wadley, alabama,town of 500 people Stop it right
now Zero stoplights, not one.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Wow, not a one.
Did you love the movie SweetHome Alabama?
I had to say that with anaccent.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Not really.
No, I appreciate it.
Are you still in the accentright now?
I?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
love it.
No, I mean it's horrible.
But hearing you say it, I justfeel like I want to do it.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's a very accurate
depiction of what it's like to
go back home.
When I was in college I'd goback home and there was this
woman who lived in our townnamed Frances Gunn rest in peace
who ran the column in thenewspaper and she got wind that
any of the kids home fromcollege were in town.
(18:07):
She would write an entire it'dbe a whole column like okay,
let's come in home, home fromnashville this weekend.
So then everyone knows you'rethere.
So then all like your highschool, like flings and friends,
want to see you, especiallylike at that point I'd already
started working for wwe andthey're all like these big
wrestling fans, although theyweren't very nice to me growing
up because the kids were mean inschool.
(18:29):
Oh, you better believe.
Now that I'm home they want tomeet and talk and take a picture
and say we're friends with withKayla Kayla from WWE.
That's exactly what they want.
That's exactly what they want,okay.
Okay, should we do one more?
Let's do one more.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay, I'm going to
just pick a random Perfect.
I'm going to go deep.
Should I read this one?
Yeah, you should pick itactually.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Wait, is there like
like?
Should I just like so?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
this, this is like
deeper.
Let's just pick a deep one,let's go.
You want to go like deep, thisdeep, that's deep like the
deepest.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You want to go as
deep as you can go.
Let's just go deep for a second.
That's what she said.
Okay, I'm so scared.
Right now play a round of rockpaper scissors.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Winner can ask their
partner anything okay, must
answer, let's do another one.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
This is more like
when you're with your like
romantic partner and you want todo a sex thing yeah, that's
like what we're doing rock paperscissors, like come on, okay.
Like let's move on we're notthose kind of friends.
Okay, what has been yourearliest recollection of
happiness?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
earliest.
Is that what it said?
Yeah, what was your earliest?
Look at how like annoyed she isat that question, because it's
just like what's like happy I'mgonna choose the game next time,
like spin the bottle orsomething.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay, how about?
Okay, hold on, I'm pickinganother one.
This is why she's not.
Hold on, let me pick anotherone to pick.
Let's okay, I'm gonna go backto the easy section.
Hold on, I'm gonna.
I think the easy is.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
This is too deep for
Kayla today, okay, oh no, I
don't want that one either.
Hold on, okay, I also don'tthink this is how the game is
supposed to work.
Hold on, but she is now on card11.
And you better.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
All right, this is
the one.
This is the one.
This is it.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I found the one that
we want to do, okay, oh, this is
kind of appropriate.
And I think a good amount ofemotion, okay, okay, do I seem
like a coffee or a tea person,sweetened or unsweetened?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
She went for the most
surface level answer.
Well, Vanessa, what?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
do you think, am I a
coffee or a tea person?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Honestly, I do think
you're a coffee person.
I hate coffee.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
No, you do not Hate
coffee hey.
I'm so glad you know this nowbefore you start bringing me
coffees.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Do you drink tea?
Thank you, thank you.
It's like it's.
It's like when I'm on set andin the middle of the day after
lunch, I either need like alittle sip of like coca-cola or
I need like a celsius.
Like I don't want a coffee, Iwant something that's gonna get
into my, get into my body rightaway, like a, like a Red Bull or
something.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Celsius, I don't know
if you just heard that we just
gave you free advertisement.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So if you want real
advertisement, just hit us up,
it's fine.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
The peach flavor is
our favorite.
Okay, Well, let's go back.
That was.
That was really fun aboutspeeding tickets and caffeine.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We'll get deeper as
we go along, and that is as deep
as Kayla will go.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
For now, I'm going to
break her, don't you worry.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Episode 100.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Well, back to our
Hollywood and entertainment
careers.
If you're watching right now orlistening right now and you're
thinking about making the jumpinto this world, I'm sure you do
have ideas of what it is allabout, whether you've been
watching like the movies andtelevision that talk about
Hollywood, or what it's likelike Entourage.
(23:21):
Entourage, before I moved here,was a big like show that we all
watched.
I'm like, oh, this is how itgoes, and I do think that show
did a very good job of beingrealistic with what it's like to
live and work in the studiosand be an actor and be a
producer and all the ups anddowns.
What do you think people assumeworking in the entertainment
industry is like versus what itactually is like?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, that's.
I mean.
I think we both probably agreethat everyone thinks it's lights
, camera, action, glamour, blah,blah, blah, like all this stuff
.
But there's, it's nitty gritty,it's just like any other job,
but there are different layersto it.
Right, it's like the hustle.
Everyone always likes to ask melike, how's work going?
Well, I'm like it's good, butit's a hustle.
(24:04):
It's it's and, and sometimesthere's lulls where you don't
get a lot of auditions or workis slow and you got to make sure
that you have stuff saved forwhen it's like a dry moment in
your career, because we all havethose, even the biggest actors,
actors, yeah, you won't seethem on tv for years.
Yeah, it's like they, they.
(24:24):
You thought like, oh, this wastheir moment, they're famous,
now they're, they have all theseopportunities.
But then, yeah, like a hugeshow like let's just talk about,
like, maybe Game of Thrones.
Right, it's like those actorswere such huge actors for an X
amount of time while they werefilming those shows, but some of
them may never work again, but,like in that moment, for the
(24:47):
six, seven or however many yearsthey were filming, it just
looks like that.
You know what I mean.
But it's not Like.
Obviously, yes, there is glitzand glamour to it, but behind
the scenes it's.
You have to be very smart, youhave to be um strong, you have
to uh, calculate everything youknow, stay grounded.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I guess, when you
hear people and I this is a
thought that crosses my mind alot when people are like, oh, I
just want to be famous, okay, sowhy do you want to be famous?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
because, based on
what you see in the tabloids and
on the award shows, you thinkeveryone just has like this good
, like cush life.
They're making all this money.
They just get adored by theirfans.
All they do is walk red carpetsand get free stuff and make all
it's like.
(25:37):
No, that is not at all.
I think people just have a verybig misconception about what
being famous is.
Yes, I think they think it'sjust oh, this is the easy way of
life is being famous, and Iabsolutely that is not the case
at all no, being famous is hard.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
It is like staying at
the top and staying relevant.
It's, it's a lot of work and,you know, it's like also being
famous sometimes probably hasits downfalls, too right.
It's like I mean, I think yeah,ups and others yeah everything.
Some people just enjoy theircraft and it's and and they do
really well at it and that's whythey get fame for it.
(26:06):
But then when they're outsideof that jurisdiction, they're
themselves.
But a lot of people like Iremember Mariska Hargitay from a
Law Order SVU.
She said you know, a lot ofpeople come up to her because
they really believe that she'san SVU detective and they ask
her questions.
So it's like she's not, butshe's always like I'm willing to
(26:28):
, like I've learned so much andshe's done a lot and she's
amazing.
She's one of my favoriteactresses, um, but it's like,
you know, she's like I I'm not,I'm, I'm acting in this.
I am not a detective, you know,but okay, let me help you.
And, however, so it's like it'sit's separating your job from
your life.
You know, a doctor goes intothe the room and does surgery,
(26:51):
but once he walks out he's JohnSmith.
He's not like John Smith, thebrain surgeon.
You know what I mean.
Like it's, so it's.
I do see people.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's really hard for
people to separate the two,
which is hard, that's hard, andit lends to that, like the
pressure of just always havingto be on you know, always having
to be performing orperformative, having to be on,
you know, always having to beperforming or performative, I
know for me, I always felt.
I think that's why my, my sociallife, my personal life, is very
(27:20):
like boring.
And I do that by design, becausewhen you are always on on
television or on set, when youfinally get to come home, you
don't want I mean, at least Idon't want any of that like I
want to be a recluse, I want tobe a hermit, I don't want to
talk to anybody, I don't want tomake any plans, um, and then
when, when I worked in wwe we'dfinish a show, I'd be at be at
(27:41):
an arena for like 10 to 12 hoursand just on, on, on.
Then we walk through the hotellobby to go to our rooms.
All the fans are there wantingpictures, wanting to talk to you
, and I know a lot of times Iprobably got perceived as like a
little bit of a bitch and Iwasn't trying to be it.
Just like I am no longer kaylabraxton, I'm kayla becker now
and I want to grab my glass ofwine at the bar, have my pizza
or talk about waiting in myhotel room and I want to turn it
(28:03):
off like yep, do you know?
Like that pressure of justalways having to be on,
absolutely, and when we're on,we right.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's like we could be
on set for 12 hours and I'm on,
I'm not tired, I will get ittogether, I will make it happen.
But the second they're likethat's a wrap and they're
clapping.
You're just like let me get inmy car, let me just.
Sometimes I don't even putmusic on, just sit in silence.
(28:34):
I just open my windows and Ijust drive home, you know, and I
just listen to the wind hit mywindows, because it's just, you
know, you have to be like we'renot just, you're not just going
there as a host, you're goingthere as a personality.
I'm not going there just as anactress or model either, like
it's like I'm going, we're goingthere as personalities and so
I'm not gonna lie.
This is why this is so out ofmy comfort zone, because me
(28:54):
being like myself is reallyscary, because I'm we're used to
being like okay, whatever theywant us to be, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So be gentle with us,
okay, cause has it ever made
you want to like quit, thoughLike I, I know I've wanted to.
I joke about oh my God if I win.
I play the Powerball a lot.
I get that from my mom.
I'm on a mega million Powerball.
By the way, as we're filmingthis, the Powerball just got won
like 30 minutes down the streetin Anaheim.
Stop, like a half a billiondollars.
I'm like why wasn't it me?
(29:23):
I bought four tickets and Ikissed them, had the dog kiss
them and I prayed.
It's fine, it's not my time,but I do joke.
If I were to win the powerball,I would like tell my friends
where I was, maybe send apostcard and just disappear,
quit from the entertainmentindustry and just like live a
life of seclusion and peace Ithink I'm the opposite.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I don't think I've
ever wanted to quit, but I have
had the idea of you know, isthis not for me?
When it's like a low, like adry spell, or you know you're
not working as much, and thingslike that, it's like I don't
want to quit.
But I get that feeling whereit's like, is it not for me?
(30:07):
Like, is this not, you know?
And I start to go into thatdark space where it's not always
fun to go to.
And then I have the supportsystem around me that pulls me
up.
It's like no dude, like youknow.
When you don't work for Xamount of time, you're like, ok,
well, maybe I should just hangit up, yeah, but I don't want to
.
It's not that I want to everquit.
I love being creative.
(30:28):
I love I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I don't see myself
ever not being creative and I
don't see you learning this.
Oh man, I can't really answerthat question.
Like whack surfboards and serve.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I would.
I would live on a farm and andI'd be a farmer have you done
that before?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
yes, oh, I was raised
in farm.
I hated it.
Okay, sorry, I didn't mean tojust shit on your, your, your
dream.
No, no, I, I, just I won'tvisit that farm though.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
What is honestly like
the most LA thing that you've
done in LA yesterday.
Let me give you an example.
Yesterday I got up early.
I went to the hair salon.
Okay, okay, this is, this isthe most LA day that you could
have.
Okay, went to the hair salon.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Okay, okay, this is.
This is the most LA day thatyou could have Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Went to the hair
salon.
Um, I was supposed to go toPilates but missed Pilates
because my hair salon took alittle too long.
Yeah, Happens to all of us.
So instead of going to Pilates,I went on a hike.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Uh huh, runyon.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I was about to say
Runyon is the most LA thing,
most LA.
Oh, mind you, at my hair salonthere was this guy walking
around who I guess comes likemaybe once a week and does he
makes juices like really likehandmade juices.
So there was this like coconutwater recovery juice that my
hairstylist was like just takewhichever one you want.
So I got one of those, tookthat with me to Runyon and then
when I got back home I made achiropractor appointment.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
That is what life in
LA is like.
Guys, come on over.
The water is warm, don't youlove that?
I do.
No one works a typical nine tofive job at the office.
You can wake up, go to the hairsalon, go hike Runyon, get a
nice homemade juice and then, goto the chiropractor but look,
some days I'm on set for like 15hours.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, it's not.
It's not a nine to five, it'slike a nine to whenever,
whenever.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, you know, and
that is what about you?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
what's, what's like
something that you've been here
and you're like, wow, that wasso la.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I mean, I think the
most la thing I've ever done is
move to la.
There was a long time I waslike I will never do that, I'm
never moving to Los Angeles.
And then of course I did, but Iguess kind of a very similar
thing.
I'm like I've never been asuper health nut, but I eat a
lot of avocados now.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Do you add lemon and
like salt to it?
I've been Tik, I've been.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I've been tick
tocking some different ways,
some different variations oflike the health food.
I do a lot of Runyon hikes, umI some.
I go to vegan restaurants.
Wow, if I, my parents woulddisown me If I, if they knew if
they knew no, they don't.
They won't watch this If theyknew I like was eating vegan, Um
(33:12):
okay, no, they won't watch thisIf they knew I was eating vegan
.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, your parents
not liking vegan?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, absolutely not.
It probably gives them the ick.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Okay, yes, so for you
, what has been like the biggest
ick moving here.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
That's a good
question because I will say I'm
not.
I don't consider myself superLA.
I think I'm glad I moved hereas late in life as I did.
If I had moved here in my earlytwenties I may have turned into
like this super, like annoying.
I hate that so freaking much.
(33:54):
Everyone is just.
Everyone is a social climber,not everyone.
A lot of people in LA aresocial climbers.
They want to see how they canuse you to get ahead.
I don't know, that's my.
That's a huge ick for me inthis town.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I agree with you One
of the big.
It's funny we have the sameanswer, cause I was going to say
the biggest ick is meetingsomeone and the first thing they
say is like what do you do here?
It's like, probably what you'redoing here, we're all in the
creative.
Most of us are in the creativefield.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Especially living in
West Hollywood, which is where
we owe everyone, even yourbartender, your waitress, your
waiter.
This is their gig, just so theycan go do their auditions, like
that is what we do here.
So stop asking stupid questions.
You're going to know the answerto Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Also, I don't care
what you do, I just.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I just want to know
if, like you're not my people.
But you know, keep moving onand good luck on everything.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yep, yep me speaking
of meeting people.
Yes, um, have you ever had ajob or like a moment with like a
celeb that you've gotten likestarstruck with or or not really
well?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
yes, a couple times,
um, one that wasn't a job I was
in was.
I have a very short list ofpeople that I wanted to meet,
famous people, when I moved outhere, and one of them is the
late Leslie Jordan.
I have a shrine of him in myapartment.
Basically, if you don't knowLeslie Jordan, he's a little old
country gay man.
If you don't know him, justlook him up.
(35:20):
Anyway, I've always loved himvery much, especially being from
the South and him being so openabout his sexuality.
But I was sitting in WeHo oneone day and I saw him walking by
, just little leslie jordan,holding his shopping bags.
Everyone was wanting to stopold leslie and then I was like I
have to say something here.
And so I was like leslie and hecomes over.
He's like hey, there, darlin,you are so, you're so pretty.
And then we're talking, we takea selfie together, we talk, you
(35:44):
know, we get to know each otherand I'm he follows me on social
media and I'm like I could dietomorrow and be happy.
That was a bad thing to saybefore what I'm about to say,
but the very next day is whenleslie jordan died and so I woke
up the next day and got a tmzalert leslie jordan dies in car
accident and I was like how wildto me.
I just moved to la.
(36:05):
He was like one of the topthree people I've always wanted
to meet.
I meet him, we connect.
The last thing he posted on hissocial media was a photo of me
and him and the next day hepasses away.
I'm like I feel like I wassupposed to meet him.
Yes, um, I do like a.
What would leslie do in my head?
Like because he's just such anice person.
But I would say that was thethe most starstruck I've been
(36:26):
since I've lived, since I'velived here, and I I think about
him often what about you?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I don't, I don't
honestly think I've been
starstruck yet with somebody,honestly, but I I do think I I
would be starstruck if I got achance to like work with, like,
nicole kidman.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh, my god, she's
just I agree everything.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Just, I just love the
way she embodies herself and in
her work and how she is in reallife.
And I heard an interview withher one time because with her
and Ryan Seacrest and they werelike you know, why are you in
everything?
She literally does everything.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I'm like is Keith
Urban at home?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Like, is she ever
going to?
Come home to me and she saysshe goes with with the way that
my name, how big my name is.
I know that putting my name toa specific project that maybe
doesn't have well like big namedactors yet is going to elevate
them.
And she's like so how could?
I say no to that and it'samazing.
So I think if I saw her, if Igot to work with her, oh my gosh
(37:34):
, it would be.
Whew.
I get like little chills, liketingly feelings in my body.
But yeah, I think she would beone person, her.
And then, for a male, honestlyit'd be Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Like if I got to work
with.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Denzel Washington,
are you insane?
I just just to sit in his room.
His energy, his presenceprobably takes up the entire
room.
I and I love that, but, wow,like those two would be.
Whoa, yeah, you know, like, yes, please I did love to work with
both of you, nicole denzel.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I think there should
be a movie where the three of
you are starring and all of us?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
no, all of us I'll
just I'll just sit on set I just
want to sit there and yell withlike cut wait, okay, hold on
before we be.
Should we go into like, shouldwe go into our younger selves or
should we do dms?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
we can do both, it's
fine, okay, let's, let's do it.
Let's, let's.
What do you want to go on first?
We have notes here of thingsyou want to talk about and
typically we get like a fourthof these done, because she and I
just go off on tangents.
Yeah, hello podcasting?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
yep, why don't we go
into like younger selves,
because I think that'll be alittle bit more.
They round it out and thenwe'll round it out with these.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
The next question
which is okay, just great.
So how about you start if yougo back in time?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
something you'd tell
to little vanessa um, what I
would tell little vanessa is donot let anyone dictate your
career.
I've let friends' opinions getinto the way of my career at
times.
I've let significant others getinto the way of my career at
times and I've allowed otherpeople in my past to make
(39:03):
decisions for me.
I think, no, I don't think Iknow I've allowed other people
to have their opinion affect theway that I say yes or no to a
job, and you could never do thatto me now.
And I've learned that throughtrial and error and like this
journey, like we started beingin this industry for 20 years, I
(39:25):
say yes to things that I feelcomfortable with, and if it
doesn't feel comfortable forother people, then that's fine.
Um, you do what you feel.
It's your life.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
You have one life to
live, and so why spend it making
other people happy?
Absolutely what about you.
Uh, I think if I could telllittle poofy haired chubby ashy
need kayla something four-eyedfreckle face.
Um, I think that everything'sgonna work out exactly how you
want it to I think I'm such aI'm always on high stress, I'm
(39:56):
very I wouldn't say necessarilyneurotic, anxious person girl,
especially when it comes to likemy career and based on, like my
early childhood and like youknow, kind of a messed up
childhood and going into fostercare and like even when, even
when I was little people tellingme, oh, you're just gonna end
up just like your mother whowent to prison, and I think I
always had to fight myself tonot believe that I would end up
(40:18):
just a product of mycircumstances, whatever that I
can like be above, rise, abovethe statistic of being a foster
kid Right, and it's been a fightthat I still have.
But when I actually let myselfsit and like look around me and
what I've accomplished and howfar I've gotten and how far away
I am from that point in my life, I'm like holy shit, kayla,
like stop being so hard onyourself.
(40:40):
Like everything is working out.
I treat people kindly, you knowI put in the work, and I think
those are things that you needto do in order to see the
results of what it is thatyou're chasing.
And so I wish I told my littleyounger self that.
But I mean I think in 20 yearsI'm gonna wish I told my 34 year
old self the same thing, so I'dstop being so hard on yourself.
(41:02):
Things are going to work outfor you, just keeping a good
person.
Be kind, do things the rightway and you know dang.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
That hit me in a
weird way.
I'm like getting all teary eyed, I cause I I feel that too
Right, it's like, it's a, it'sokay, like everything's going to
fall into place how it falls.
And we're so hard on ourselves,we're so tedious about like
every little thing and sometimesI want to be like it's okay.
It's okay if it's not perfect,like that means that you're
(41:30):
human.
Yeah, it's okay, exactly Well.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Thanks for sharing
with us, of course, thank you.
Are we done with emotionalstuff?
Yeah, yeah, we are.
We're going to go like anotherfive minutes of this show and
then we're going to be done.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
But like oh,
vanessa's getting teary eyed,
absolutely not Kidding.
Okay, okay, okay.
Last thing Okay, let's talkabout this.
Okay, okay, because I don't getthat many crazy DM.
Oh, the DM DM situations, but Iknow this gal does.
Okay, so let's start with you,because I only have like maybe
(42:08):
one or two, but I know you havesome crazy ass DMs.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well, at this point
I'm about a year removed from
working in WWE and I want topreface this by saying those of
you who are watching, whofollowed me here from WWE,
who've been very supportive andnot perverted with me, thank you
.
I'm not talking about you.
I want to say I'm not talkingabout all wrestling fans, of
course, but to the wrestlingfans I am talking about, my DMs
are filled with some of the mostdisgusting things you could
(42:33):
possibly find To, where I'vewritten a song about it before
that performed at a stand-upcomedy club and maybe I will
sing it to you or show it to yousomeday.
I have gotten besides justwords telling me like, let's see
your uh to like sending mephotos of their situation
sitting me, photos like this oneguy had a photo of me on his
(42:55):
ipad and he had just ejaculatedonto it and then sent me a
picture of that, to me like.
That is the level of things andthis isn't like a once in a
blue moon, this is every day.
We should do an episode whereI'll hand my phone to vanessa
and just let her read throughthe dms, because it is, it's
non-stop and I hate to say thatit's I worked in a male
(43:17):
dominated.
Yeah, that was wrestling fans,so yeah okay, pretty disgusting.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I did not.
Okay, I, maybe you're ready.
Maybe I should have gone first.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Maybe you're asking
for something a little less no
no, no, no, we wanted all ofthem.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Mine is disgusting
too, but that is like that's
wild.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I wonder what they
thought like what they're
expecting the reaction to belike.
Oh my God, I'm so glad I got tojust see your semen all over
this.
I am so turned on what's yournumber, let me call you right
now what?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
do they think is
going to come from that, but
also like why would you want toruin your ipad screen with semen
all over it?
Also, what happens if it seepsthrough the cry, I mean I can
imagine.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Take that to the
genius bar apple and tell them
what happened.
Sorry, I wanted to send a phototo a girl I've never met in my
life.
I just see her on tv of mejizzing on my ipad.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Oh my goodness okay,
mine's not as bad as that, to be
honest.
I mean mine, I I've gotten youknow.
A guy asked me one time hey,can you wear your thong for
three weeks and then mail it tome and I'll pay you x amount of
money.
And I'm not gonna lie.
I was like that's so freakingweird, but also like, like also
I think it was like two thousanddollars.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
I almost thought
about doing it, but but I just
didn't.
And you could also like noteven send it.
You could be like this is spraysome.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Spray some.
How are they going to know?
They're never going to know.
They're never going to know,they're never going to know.
But I didn't do it.
But that is like, honestly, thecraziest thing I've been
offered is can I?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
have your thong.
Well, now that I'm postingabout you more, I'm sure a lot
of these spirited individualsare going to come over to you
and see you.
I already had a guy tweet meabout you because this guy hates
me and he said I should read it.
I think I screenshot it, buthe's like I'm not a fan of Kayla
.
He thinks that we're textingbecause somebody is texting him,
pretending to be me.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
And he's like
Vanessaessa.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
She seems like the
smarter, more like she's a more
beautiful one.
I have bad.
I have bad, a bad pass withkayla, but like I love vanessa,
like, so you already have a fan.
I can connect the two of you ifyou'd like.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
He's probably already
in your dms absolutely not okay
, like lordy that is wild andthat's just the surface of what
she gets.
I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure.
Well, actually on our one ofour posts, uh, we've been
posting on our milk and honey'spod at milk and honey's pod on
instagram and tiktok or what isour same?
(45:39):
milk and honey, milk and honeys,um, and yeah, somebody already
commented about like wanting tosee our feet.
So I, I was like, oh, that mustbe one of your fans.
And what's disappointing is wedid this whole cute photo shoot
and there's like we were doingon commented about like wanting
to see our feet.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
So I, I was like, oh,
that must be one of your fans
and what's disappointing is wedid this whole cute photo shoot
and there's like we're doing onthe couch.
We're in these suits with noshoes on or socks and I didn't
think about that.
But I'm like why do I have tothink about that?
Now it's our feet.
Like I have to crop our feetout of everything.
Now also, I get pedicures on aregular basis.
I gotta hide that now.
Yeah, that's a hundred dollarpedicure that I just can't show
the world because of you creepypeople.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
We should just send
them our Venmo and be like look
instead of commenting just sendus money for the feet pictures.
If that's really what gets youoff, we'll just keep it between
us, no one has to know.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's great, oh my God
.
Well, another fun, in myopinion fun episode.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yes, I love this, but
we have to stop ourselves.
I know we could keep going for,like when we get together, like
at each other's houses, andjust have two bottles of wine
and we're just chatting.
It's like four hours later,like, oh we probably should like
go home, yep, but we can justkeep, and we're not.
We're not sitting and just likewatching TV either.
We're literally talking theentire time.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
So, yeah, this is is
really hard to keep it under an
hour an amount of time, butthat's why it's good that you
guys are listening and tuning inwith us and hopefully, things
that we're saying are relatingto you and over time, we hope
that you send us in some of youryou know stories of your life,
because we'd love to share themwith everybody else listening.
We can all just be one big Ikeep, I keep trying to make this
work hive, because milk andhoney wow, well, the, the, the
beehive fans may come after usoh, beyonce, come on beyonce.
(47:14):
How about beyonce?
But we're just, we're just onthis show b?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
yeah, we're just.
We're just amplifying the hive.
You know, like we, we love thehive.
We're an extension of the hive,exactly, we're an extension of
the hive.
So we're not taking the hive.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Okay, so don't come
at us, we're not taking it we're
just, we're just adding to thebeehive and maybe we should
probably, figure, change it alittle bit.
I don't need beyonce and jay-zcoming after me.
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
We definitely don't
want any of any people coming
after us okay, uh, all right,yeah, I mean I I think also it's
like we would love to hear youknow comment, like subscribe to
our our's.
Like we would love to hear youknow comment, like subscribe to
our, our podcast, and we wouldlove if you guys have any
questions or advice.
That's kind of why we alsowanted to start this, you know,
is just help people who want toget into this and see if this is
(48:01):
something that they reallyenjoy doing and and make a
career out of it, you know.
So, yeah, we would love to hearwhat you guys have to say and
ask questions and all the things.
And send us some of yourcreepiest DMs.
So that you don't mind us.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Well, we won't say
the person's name who'd send it
to you.
If you let us read them outloud on the show, I think that'd
be pretty great.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
I think we could do a
whole segment that's just oh.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Look at us Finish.
That's just oh.
Look at us finish each other'ssentences.
I was gonna say finishsandwiches.
Wait what the frozen?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
you know we're
getting there we're getting
there, we're working on italright.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Well, I guess we
should better stop yapping, yes,
but thank you guys for joiningus.
This was Milk and Honeys, kaylaand Vanessa, and we'll see you
on the flippity flip.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yep and remember, yep
and remember we're always
serving you guys the tea withthe right ingredients.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Did you like that?
That was really good.
That was so seamless.
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
I think we got it.
It just went.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
It just went All
right.
Bye guys.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Bye guys.