What happens when life suddenly forces you to reinvent yourself? When Jamie Lee Ruiz stepped onto the Super Bowl stage with Jennifer Lopez in 2020, she had no idea it would mark both the pinnacle and conclusion of her professional dance career. Weeks later, as the world shut down, this accomplished dancer who had performed with Becky G, Tyga, Chris Brown, and Pitbull found herself facing an unexpected crossroads.
In this deeply moving conversation, Jamie takes us through the raw, vulnerable journey of her transformation. The pandemic stripped away the constant motion of her dancer lifestyle, leaving her alone with uncomfortable truths about her relationship with herself. "I had no choice but to look at it and sit with it," she reveals, describing the intense self-love bootcamp she created to heal her relationship with herself.
The magic of Jamie's story lies in how she turned crisis into opportunity. When her intuition whispered that she should help others through coaching, she took a terrifying leap of faith—creating a simple announcement about life coaching services and "throwing her phone across the room" after posting it. This brave act began a profound journey that led to her current work as an intuitive coach, where she guides others through manifestation and personal transformation.
Jamie breaks down her manifestation process with refreshing clarity: identifying true desires, recognizing limiting beliefs, questioning if those beliefs are "ultimate truths," creating new beliefs, taking inspired action, and practicing gratitude throughout. "If I can live in a state of gratitude," she explains, "the universe is always matching me going, 'She's so grateful for what she has. Let me give her more to be grateful for.'"
What makes Jamie's approach unique is how she's integrated her dance background with her spiritual work. Rather than abandoning her past identity, she's embraced it, creating offerings like "Sacral Sundays"—spiritual dance classes for beginners focused on embodiment. "A lot of manifestation is about embodiment," she shares. "If you can't feel good and confident in this body, that is who you're being and that is what you're attracting."
Whether you're facing your own reinvention, struggling with limiting beliefs, or simply curious about manifestation, Jamie's journey offers profound wisdom about listening to your intuition even when logic says otherwise. Connect with her on Instagram @JamesLee4 or visit jamieleeruiz.com to learn more about her coaching and courses.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
welcome back everyone to milk and honeys.
We're your host, kayla becker,and I'm sitting next to the
lovely vanessa curry.
I do that every week, right, Ikind?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
of tease if I'm going to say it, or if you're going
to say it and I was waiting foryou to say it, but I'm going to
say it.
Vanessa Curry, hi.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, we have another guest in the studio today,
someone that you've known forquite some time, a good friend
of yours, someone I'm getting toknow.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We are diving into a very inspirational conversation
with the multifacetedinspirational conversation with
the multifaceted Jamie Lee Ruiztoday, and you have you know a
long.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
you've done a lot in your career.
You've danced alongside artistslike Becky G Tyga, chris Brown,
christina Aguilera, pitbull,and then, I believe, you hit the
Super Bowl stage with JLo.
Back in what?
2020?
Yes, I did.
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And now she is taking a powerful pivot into becoming
an intuitive life coach and sheis manifesting with big magic,
big love.
You're just so inspirationaland I'm so excited to welcome
Jamie Lee Roos to the podeveryone.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Hi guys, thanks for having me.
I'm so excited to be here.
I love that you guys are doingthis and I'm just so happy to be
a part of it.
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm so excited to be here.
I love that you guys are doingthis, and I'm just so happy to
be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Thank you, thanks for being here.
Well, yeah, we like to bringpeople on who can be inspiring,
and that's kind of the point ofthis entire show is to bring, I
guess, experts in their fieldsto kind of open up the reality
of what it is that you do, and Iwant to hear a little bit about
y'all's story, though, and howy'all became friends.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think it was back in 2009 we met.
I think that was the year thatwe met.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm really bad with time, but if you say 2009, then
I'm going to go with that.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And Jamie and I.
We met because we were doingPussycat Dolls.
They were redoing the group, andher and I were chosen to be a
part of that new group and I'llnever forget she was waiting on
the sidewalk.
We were like going to our firstfitting and there she was, and
she was like you must be Vanessaand I was like you must be
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Jamie, cause we kind of kneweach other's names but not each
other and we just looked at eachother, we took a deep breath
and we were like all right,let's, let's go do this.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I guess you know it's like random new adventure that
we were becoming a part of, butalso I think, like you said to
me earlier today, that that'slike a memorable moment for you
and it is for me too, because Ifeel like you're a super close
friend of mine and a superspecial friend and like that
moment I think we knew that wewere going to be really good
friends and just like meeting onthe sidewalk outside on like La
Cienega yep, oh yes, I remember, right in front of uh, agent
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provocateur I think is where itwas exactly I was having this
dance pass, though, jamie, likewhat's like the origin story, I
guess we can say, of you know,of my dance background, dance
background sure I have been.
I always say I've been dancingsince I came out the womb,
literally like three years old.
My mom put me in uh tap, jazz,gymnastics, acro ballet, all the
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things, um, and I just alwaysloved it.
Um, I did gymnastics as well,um, and so actually when I was
seven I was doing both dance andgymnastics.
My mom told me that I had topick one, because they were both
too expensive.
So I picked gymnastics that Ihadn't been doing for a long
time, but I always missed dance.
So when it came time for highschool, I auditioned to go to
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performing arts high school sothat I could dance at school, so
that my mom wouldn't have tolike pay for two things.
So then that brought dance backaround, and so I danced two
hours every day in school forthe performing arts program and
then I danced an hour every dayafter school for dance team.
Then I went into gymnastics forlike three and a half hours
after that.
I was just doing the most.
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But after high school Iauditioned to be a Miami Heat
dancer, because I'm from Miamiborn and raised.
So I danced for the Miami Heatfor five years and then from
there I made my journey to LA.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
What do you think gave you that work ethic,
especially starting so young andwanting to balance dance and
gymnastics, which oneindividually is a huge
undertaking on its own.
What do you think you gotpicked that up from?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know that's a good question.
I think it's just like whenit's all you know.
It's like it's all you know andall you want to do, and I guess
I can thank my parents for that, for putting me in so many
sports and so many differentthings at such a young age.
I didn't really have a desireto hang out with friends and do
regular kid things because I waslike I'm going to dance, I'm
going to gymnastics and I lovedit so much that I didn't really
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want to be anywhere else.
It wasn't until high school thatI was like boys.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Where have y'all been this whole time.
I'm like drinking, like what isthis?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I was like fuck this, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's why I kept you out of trouble for a little bit
.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I mean look at the end of the day too.
When you moved here I mean Iknow this is like kind of like
fast forward you had such abeautiful dance journey and in
2020, you know was like I knowhow much of a memorable moment
this was for you to perform withJLo at Super Bowl 2020.
And wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
in Miami, yes, and I love saying the fact that I just
met you, like recently, that Ican say oh my God, then I
definitely have seen you perform.
And then I have people who cansay, oh my God, we all.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That was one of the most iconic performances in
super bowl history yes, peoplesay that, they do say that and
they're like I watched you, Iwatched that performance and how
does that so?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I, I know you.
You started your intuitivecoaching.
You know a little bit afterthat, but that is something do
you ever think about?
That you did manifest, thateven before you were a
manifestation, uh, you knowprofessional, you know what.
I mean, like, how does thatfeel?
Like, how did you feel when youwere in that moment?
What was it like being on stage?
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Do you even remember it?
Because sometimes I feel likewe're on stage or you know,
you're live television and I'mlike how did it go?
did, I do okay because I don'tremember, but I think I did good
, you know.
So what was that?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Actually, that whole experience was like I would say
honestly, it was like the peakof my dance career,
interestingly enough, becauseright after that COVID happened
and that was the end of my dancecareer.
But it was like the peak of mydance career, the highlight of
my dance career.
I even remember being likeafterwards, when the world shut
down, I was like, honestly, Iwent out with a bang, like yeah,
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I couldn't ask for a better wayto go out, but it was just like
everything I had beenmanifesting to perform with J-Lo
, who's like the Latina queen.
You know what I mean?
I'm Latina, I'm from Miami, itwas in Miami.
It just felt like so inalignment and I absolutely
manifested that situation.
I had been wanting to dance forJLo for a really long time.
(06:46):
I had been wanting to dance inthe Super Bowl for a really long
time.
I think, as a professionaldancer, super Bowl is your like.
It's like your bucket top notch.
It's like Super Bowl as afootball player is also Super
Bowl as a dancer yep.
So yeah, um, I was reallypresent.
Through that.
I also was like not my fullhealed self for sure.
(07:07):
So there was a lot of likepartying and drinking throughout
that time as well, which makesit a little blurry, but I was
present in the sense that I waslike I was really aware of how
amazing it was and how specialit was and how grateful I was to
be there.
When that doesn't happen on alljobs, it's right.
It happens in hindsight a lotwhere you're like, oh my God, I
wish I would have been morepresent.
But I have no regrets because Iwas in it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I was so in it.
What was that call like whenyou found out that you were
going to have that opportunity?
Like walk me through that.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So the choreographer for that performance was Paris
Global.
Who's like iconic?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
choreographer.
And just to bring this fullcircle really quick now that I'm
a life coach, paris global isone of my clients.
Wow, which is amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I have chills at the full circle of that right now,
the synergy of it all?
yeah, but she is also like abucket list for professional
dancers.
Like you want to work for parisglobal?
She's like iconic choreographerand I had worked with her once
years back when I was dancing ontour with pit bull.
We brought her in as a guestchoreographer to choreograph one
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of the numbers, um, but she hadnever hired me.
She came in.
We hired her, you know.
So after that I was like Ooh,like I hope she hires me for
something.
And she did.
She ended up hiring me for theYummy music video Justin Bieber.
Yummy, I don't know if youremember the video Iconic.
But we all had pink hair in thevideo.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I remember I dyed my hair pink for this.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I was like Paris.
Global wants me to dye my hairpink.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, Say yes, done.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I had been blonde my whole life and I felt insane.
But, I was like we're doingthis Also.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Can I curse here?
Yeah, I can beep it out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to.
But yeah, I've been beeping myown cell phone, so you're fine,
I love to curse, it's myfavorite.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What's your favorite cuss word?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Okay, I knew that.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I love that.
We all have the same same I.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
It's like orgasmic literally it is to throw a
couple f-bombs.
I just love it.
I feel like you're good healingand everyone should do it.
Yep, anywho.
Um, so she hired me for thatvideo and I was like, oh my god,
like I manifested at parisglobal, whatever there was also
like I felt like 100 girls onthat job still I don't care, my
foot was in the door.
And then I remember there was alot of chatter on that job in
rehearsals and on set, of beinglike oh, pierce is doing super
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bowl for j-lo, like I'm doing it.
Did you get the call?
Did you get put on hold?
Did you get asked?
and I was like no, but I kepthearing every day someone new
would come in and be like I gotasked I got asked and I was like
I'm like god, please, like ifthere was ever something you
know, then you're also on thejob, like trying to be the best
freaking dancer, because she'swatching you and she's booking
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dancers for the super bowl, um,and I remember that like the
whole job went by and I didn'tget asked, but like the job was
over and then I got an email andI got asked and I was like,
okay, but I just got asked myavailability, I didn't get
booked and I'm just saying okay,okay, okay, okay, okay, we're
almost there we get it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We're in a little bit .
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Then I started people hearing people getting booked.
Friends were telling me likeI'm booked, I'm going to miami
this day and I'm like I'm notbooked.
The job started, people went tomiami and started the rehearsal
process and I still, at thispoint, you thought I didn't get
it.
But I didn't get released and Ididn't get booked.
I'm just like waiting, becausesometimes you don't get released
, yeah, usually I just didn'tknow.
But I was holding on to thatmanifestation and that vision of
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me doing this.
I was like I just felt it in mybones that it was for me and
that it was going to happen,regardless of, like what was
happening externally, and I justkept holding the vision,
holding the vision.
And then it was like Christmasbreak.
They were like, hey, we need toadd two girls.
Like are you still available?
I have chills right now.
I'm like, yes, absolutely.
When do I fly out?
(10:51):
Like sign me up, my bag isalready packed.
And so, yes, I manifested thatand you asked what the feeling
was of that process.
It was like nerve-wracking butlike exciting.
And I think that that'smanifestation in general is like
nerve wracking, like is itgoing to happen, and then you
have to shift into thisexcitement of like it is going
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to happen, and I'm going to beexcited because I just know and
believe that it's coming for me,and that's the energy that I
was in and I think that that'swhy I attracted it to myself.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, and I'm so glad that that happened for you.
Like you said right before theworld shut down and you were
able to experience somethingthat was probably at the tip top
of your bucket list, um, and soI was going to ask what the
internal signs you?
You know that you felt knowingit was time to make the change,
but I think the world did helpyou to make that decision.
Um, but even when that didhappen and you know you thought
(11:42):
that maybe dance is about tomove into the rear view, rear
view mirror.
How are you feeling processingall that, knowing that your
life's going to take thisdrastic change away from
anything else that you've done?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, this is the story.
This is like a story.
But so, as the world isshutting down and everyone's
like what are you going to do?
What are you doing?
What's the plan?
I literally, like, gave up myapartment, I put things in
storage and I was like, oh,let's go back a second.
After the Superbowl, I was on ahigh.
I actually booked my seconddream job, which was to dance
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for major laser.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I don't know, if you know who they are, but Diplo and
two other guys are like a groupin dancer world.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
As a female dancer, like the dancers for major laser
, are called the laser gals andthey are like the epitome you
want to be a laser gal, everyonewants to be a laser gal and I?
Another thing that I wasmanifesting, but I didn't think
that it was going to happen forme, because I was always blonde
and there was already a blondeon there, but then I had pink
hair because of the music videoand put it out of my head.
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But as soon as super bowl isover I'm on this high.
I get an email like are youavailable to come to back to la
and audition for major laser aprivate audition.
I'm like university.
You're really giving it to me.
2020 is really something.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
2020 is my year 2020 is my year.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You can't tell me nothing like j-bo and major
laser.
This is crazy.
So I go back to la, I audition,I book it.
I'm like, wow, I manifestedthis too and I'm like it's the
pink hair.
The pink hair opened the doorfor me to get in there.
Whatever I book it, we do awhole week's worth of rehearsals
to learn the show and we havedates booked through the entire
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year.
Mind you, this is like what?
Uh, february, superbowl is infebruary and we have dates
booked through the whole year,like tomorrowland, like all
these festivals around the worldlike ultra and miami and I'm
just like this is gonna be themost lit year of my life.
I'm on the high of all highs.
And right after we learned thewhole show, the pandemic
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happened and little by little westarted getting emails like
this show is canceled, this showis canceled, this show is
canceled, this one's still onhold, don't worry.
Blah, blah, blah, whatever.
So, ironically enough, ourfirst show for Major Lazer was
supposed to be Ultra in Miami.
So I had a flight to go toMiami.
So when the world startsshutting down and all the shows
get canceled, I literally waslike leases up, putting my stuff
(14:10):
in storage, getting out of here, and I was like can you not
cancel my flight to Miami?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Miami.
They were like sure you canhave the flight.
I go to Miami, I stay with mysister and my brother-in-law in
my sister's home.
Um, they spare bedroom, so Ihave like my own room there and
I'm just like, okay, cool, liketwo weeks, how fun, you know?
Oh, my gosh, two weeks, couldyou imagine?
We're drinking up a storm.
We're having zoom happy hoursyeah, friends, we were.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We were doing like videos of everyone, where
everyone was like in a box yeah,like you look up and then you
look to the right.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
We're just all having wine and all each other makeup
brush, yes, videos, all of thatwe're doing, all of that.
It's the best time ever.
And then two weeks turns intothree, turns into a month, turns
into okay, like this is goingto be longer than we thought and
I'll basically give it to you.
Like this, I now am realizingthat I have nowhere to go,
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nothing to do, and I'm forced toliterally just sit with myself
and my feelings and like theuncomfortable truths of myself
that I had like been sodistracted from before.
Like my whole life was likedance, tour, show, travel with
all these artists, and now I'mlike sitting in one place and
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everything that I had likesuppressed was like flooding to
the surface.
I say it all the time, but I'mlike it was like like I could
throw up with the discomfortthat I was feeling of like the
truths of what I felt aboutmyself, and I had no choice but
to like look at it and sit withit.
And so I put myself throughwhat I like to call a self-love
(15:44):
bootcamp, because I realizedlike, ooh, all these feelings
are literally telling me that Idon't love myself or that I
don't have a healthyrelationship with myself, and
I'm thinking all these terriblethings in myself.
I have nothing to do but sitwith it, look at it, feel it,
accept it, love it, and I had alife coach at that time.
I had recently hired a lifecoach and she was helping me
(16:07):
through this process and shetold me to get this book called
mirror work and it's aboutliterally looking in the mirror
and like learning to likeyourself, learning to love
yourself, sitting with thediscomfort and just like owning
it instead of like shying awayfrom it, and that is really hard
, by the way.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So hard I got that book after she got it, and to
look at yourself in the mirrorand talk to yourself and you
have to be honest, like actuallyhonest, actually honest, not
fake honest.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
No, that's what I was learning in that I was
realizing that, like all thehair and makeup and show and
performance and being the hotgirl on the jobs, like that was
my fake confidence my whole lifeI didn't have to ever create
real, true confidence of knowingmyself because all of that was
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always there and that was allgone.
Like my pink hair was now grownout to here I my extensions
like can't gone, Like no need toput on makeup, it's just me at
my core and I'm like cringeuncomfortable.
And so I put myself throughself-boot camp, learned to love
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myself and it wasn't just like aoh cool, done, we love
ourselves, it's to this day.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I'm still doing it.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But I call it a boot camp because I really like
that's all I did for like amonth, that when I came out of
that I was like whoa, this iscrazy.
I'm really learning to lovemyself and I can only imagine
how many people out there arefeeling the same thing, right.
And so, in the midst of like,where's my dance career?
Where's the next dollar comingfrom?
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What is life?
What is the life I've alwaysknown?
And also like learning a newversion of myself and a new
relationship with myself thatI've never had.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And like you're just having like your new identity
this identity that you've hadsince you were a child, which
you are a dancer.
And now you have to figure outlike, yeah, who am I?
Who am I?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
without dance.
Yeah, to figure out like yeah,who am I?
Who am I without dance?
Yeah, and and there's like this, really like void area, when
it's like you're releasing yourold self but you're not your new
self yet you're like I'm no one, I'm nothing I'm what I'm
floating?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm blowing in the wind you got through your boot
camp, you started realizing okay, there's more to life than who
I was.
I have so much more.
What were you seeing inyourself that gave you hope that
you could find this next?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, so previous to that, I think, like in the year
or two or a couple of yearsbefore that, my dad had passed
away and so that had.
It's okay, thank you.
That had sparked something inme already to start searching
and discovering and like findingmindfulness and finding
spirituality and finding peacewith loss and grief and all of
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that.
So that had already led me onmy like personal development
journey and spiritual, spiritualjourney.
But again like, because I wasso distracted with like you know
that like lady gaga mean that'slike bus tour other show next.
That was my life.
It's the fast pace, literallythat I was healing, but I was
healing as much as I could with,like you do a show, then after
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the show you go out and youdrink and then you go home.
You sleep two hours, you get up, you go on an airplane, you go
to the next show, you take a nap, you do the show, you get home.
You have three days off.
All you want to do is sleep,laundry, pack, repeat.
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It's like how much was Iactually sitting with myself?
So I was like on the journey,but like surface level, I guess
you could say, because I didn'thave this time and space to
really do it.
And so I knew for a while thatI liked this like personal
development world, and I likedthe spirituality aspect of
things and I liked healing and Iliked that.
And I knew I would always sayto myself like this is cool,
like this is something I coulddo after dance, you know.
And then I had gotten the lifecoach and I was like that's cool
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what she's doing that, likethat's so cool what she's doing
for me, like I could see myselfdoing that one day, now that I
know what it looks like and thatthere's a job for that you know
.
But again, I always thought itwas like after dance.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
After dance it felt very, very very far away, yeah,
yeah, who knew at that pointwhen after dance would be?
It could have gone another 20years, and so you were forced in
to this new phase of your life,and clearly you have embraced
it to the fullest.
You seem very happy and excitedabout this phase of your life.
I would assume you would definesuccess very differently now.
I would assume you would definesuccess very differently now,
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though, than you did then.
To success then Major Lazer,j-lo, pitbull, yep, now helping
other people you know discovertheir, their true purpose.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Totally.
And not only that, but like.
Success to me is like I thinkmy accolades before were like
Super Bowl with J-Lo.
Chris Brown music video, JustinBieber music video dancing on
tour with Pitbull dancing forBecky G Like those are my
accolades.
My accolades now are likelearning to love myself, healing
from insecurities, settingboundaries in relationships.
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Like that is success to me,like beyond any dance accolades,
success that anybody can.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah point out for me .
I know that you live in a spacethat is very, very sentimental
to you and like that's veryimportant to you, and I know
you've moved a couple times tofind that space and I feel like
now you're home you can see it,how comfortable you are in that
space and I know that that'salso like a huge success for you
.
You plan to putting your TV onyour wall.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
You know like she's like she's, like I'd never done
by yourself no no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I paid for someone to come put my TV on my wall but,
like I had always been the girlthat was like puts it on the
thing, yeah, you know.
And it just like puts it on thething, yeah, you know.
And I felt like this is verybig girl of me in this big girl
home.
I'm like success, yeah, like Ilove myself, I love who I'm
becoming, I love my life, I lovemy, the power that I, that I
feel in creating my life.
(21:57):
Um, I love that I'm able tohelp other people.
Feel that way, I love thepossibilities that are an option
for me, like that is success tome.
And not to say that the dancethings are not.
For sure, but it's just successlooks different now.
You know what I mean,absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
When did you feel like when did you know that this
was like?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
your calling.
So in that time pandemic timeand I'm putting myself through
self-love bootcamp dance isnon-existent.
I literally had that momentwhere I was like I know I had
been saying that like thespiritual life coaching thing
was after dance, but I thinkafter dance is literally today
it was like I felt like my backwas against the wall and I was
(22:41):
looking around and I was likeafter dance is right, oh my god,
I didn't think it was going tocome this fast and it did.
And so I was really practicingmy intuition at that time and
just like listening to, like thedivine downloads that I was
getting, and listening to whatmy soul was telling me, my heart
was telling me, my body wastelling me, and it was just a
(23:03):
very clear message, likeeverything you've just put
yourself through yourself, thebootcamp, everything that your
life coach has helped you with,all these things you need to go
help people do that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And I was like absolutely not.
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I've just I'm just tapping into this and it was
like no, this is what you needto do.
So I just I followed.
I took inspired action on thatvery scary, non-logical step
that was being presented to me,and I'll never forget it.
I made like a little Canvaflyer.
I don't even know if it was onCanva, to be honest, it could
have been just straight onInstagram yeah, yeah, yeah, and
(23:37):
I was like whatever it takes.
I was like now offeringone-on-one life coaching
sessions If you want help withany of these things.
I said like mindset,manifestation, self-love,
intuition, personal power,whatever.
Who knows what I put on there.
I was like DM me, I posted it,I threw my phone across the room
and I was like what have I done?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Was that, do you think the hardest part about
letting go of Jamie the dancer?
Right, like, like you were, youwere known.
That's it.
Like Jamie, you are a dancer,this is it.
She's done everything thatshe's wanted to do.
And now you're back up againstthe wall and you're like, oh
okay, I have to just put it out,and I'm sure if you look at it
(24:18):
right now, you'd be like whatthe actual was that?
You know, but edit right now.
You'd be like what the actualwas that you know, but god,
there's so much editing thisepisode.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm just kidding, I'm sorry, I'm sorry what the
actual?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
okay, keep going, just a bunch of beeps.
People are like what did youactually say in that episode?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
all I heard was sorry , guys, sorry sorry guys, but
yeah, like would you say likewhat was the hardest part for
you?
Because what, or was that thehardest part?
Like to start to put that flyerout there and you chuck your
phone across the room and you'relike this is no, take backs.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, that was scary for many reasons, because I was
following my intuition insteadof my logical mind, which I had
done my whole life.
You know, and now I know thatlogic limits you, you know it's,
you think this is what you'resupposed to do, because you've
been told this is the rightthing, blah, blah, blah,
whatever.
And it's like intuition isalways guiding you to your best
and highest self.
So, even if it doesn't makesense, like even if my desires
(25:12):
don't make sense, and what?
I want for my life.
It doesn't matter, it's therefor a reason.
Same way action step was giftedto me for a reason.
I just knew that I had to do it.
There was, it was like Icouldn't not do it.
I had to do it, as scary as itwas, so I did it.
But then the next scary stepwas like what are people going
to think of me?
Are they going to take meserious?
(25:33):
All they've really known me foris dance, but not only dance,
but like shaking my ass.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yep, dance, which we love twerking, dance like with
my ass out, but then people havepeople have their certain
opinions and judgmental likeyeah, like how you've had your
ass out, how I should belistening to you.
How can you help me change mylife?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
all you do is shake your ass on instagram and on
stages.
It's like, who are you to tellme how to heal myself, how to
change my life?
And so I had to grapple withthat own identity of myself and
finding, at first I felt like Ihad to remove that identity,
become this light life coach.
And then it was like no, thatis me and that is what led me
(26:10):
here and I had.
I think now I'm a physicalmanifestation of the integration
of both of those.
And absolutely the real amazinglike turning part was when,
like, I had a client that hiredme and was like you know,
someone asked me what I wasdoing.
Later, this is my client.
And I told them, like, oh, Ihave life coaching session.
(26:31):
They're like, oh, like, what'sthat?
Like?
How is that different thantherapy?
And she was like does yourtherapist dance and twerk her
ass on stage with taiga majorlaser?
She's like that's why I'm here.
And I was like whoa, yep, whoa,whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I have chills because it's just like every version of
you like leads to the versionof you that you're supposed to
be, absolutely was that themoment that you got off that
call and you're like, oh, thisis what I'm supposed to be doing
and this whole journey of mydance career has brought me here
, because you do a lot ofmanifestation and life coaching
(27:07):
for people in the dance industryand help navigate that, because
the dance industry is hard, man.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I mean this whole industry is hard, right, but
it's like the dance industryit's like it's very close-knit,
it's very small, um, and there'sa lot to navigate you probably
get pigeonholed into, like yousaid, being the dancer who's on
the stage shaking their ass andso to be able to cross over to
something like this, that, yeah,you know people look at you and
rely on you for for guidance, Ican imagine that's very hard
(27:34):
it's very hard and I it took mea long time to notice it, but
there was a moment where Ilooked back and I was like 90 of
my clients are dancers orchoreographers or in this
industry or have been in theindustry at some point in their
lives.
I was like whoa, I'm doingsomething here, like I'm being
like the mindset manifestationhealing coach that I wish I
(27:57):
would have had when I was in theindustry.
That would help me navigatethat aspect of it and that was
really, I'll say, freaking cool.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
So you don't have to believe me, I'm still going to
put a beep over it.
It's a good thing, I think.
For the rest of the episode, Ido want to maybe get, like you
know, maybe we'll get some freeprofessional, you know, guidance
from you.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Like you want me to teach you how to twerk.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, that will be on our Patreon.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
that will be on our Patreon, we'll have another site
that you can go to and we'll beshaking and twerking.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I am half black, okay , and I have the lower half of
my body, that should be, able tomove.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I cannot twerk, I cannot shake it.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Maybe y'all can teach me.
On another.
You talk about manifestationquite a bit.
What does that practice looklike?
We've heard about how it hadworked in your personal life,
but when you are talking tosomeone who needs help on
manifestation, what does thatlook like in your coaching?
Do you want?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
me to give you like the steps.
Sure, like my steps, becausehere's the thing I do like logic
and I'm a Virgo and I'm a VirgoTaurus, taurus, so I'm very
earth grounded, virgo and I'm aVirgo Taurus, taurus, so I'm
very earth grounded,perfectionist.
Need steps, rules, directions.
I am very much that, but I alsohave like this intuitive,
(29:12):
witchy, flowy side of me.
So I love steps.
You know what I mean and Ithink that I need that in
manifestation.
I can't just like visualize andlike help and praise it comes
to me like that doesn't work forme.
I need, so I'm to give them toyou guys, please do Okay.
So step one is tuning in to yourdesire.
What the f*** do you want?
Like, what do you want?
You know, and not just likewhat you think you want, what
(29:32):
people have told you you'vewanted, or like what's been
presented as possible for you,but like, if you really tune
into your heart, everybody hasunique desires that have been
placed in there by and I'm goingto say, god, source, universe,
whatever you believe to be trueas a higher power for you has
placed a desire in your heart.
Like you came onto this earthwith this like divine assignment
(29:52):
, like a blueprint, navigationof what you're supposed to
create and have in this lifetime.
So if you can connect to whatthat is and connect to what that
is, figure that out like truly,that's step one, right step two
is going like okay, whatthoughts do I have, what beliefs
do I have around this desirethat maybe are limiting me, or I
(30:15):
call them limiting beliefs.
Like what do I believe?
Okay, when I think of my desireand what I want and that's so
exciting the next thing isusually this like cringy, like,
but I'll never have it becauseof X, y, z, or like I'm not good
enough for that, or what willthis person say?
Or am I good?
Like, am I worthy of havingthat?
Whatever?
Some of them are conscious andsome of them are like super
subconscious that we have toreally work to get to.
But if you could literally writeall of those down of, like,
(30:39):
what do you believe aroundhaving this desire, what do you
believe to be true, and thatcould be good or that could be
bad, and then asking yourself,right, like, looking at the
limiting beliefs, like thethings that tell you you can't
have it, this is, like a reallyimportant step is asking
yourself like is that limitingbelief the ultimate truth Like?
Is it written in a Bible andthe stars in the sky?
(31:01):
Did a wizard come down andcondemn you and say that is your
truth forever, can't have it,you'll never have it?
Is it the ultimate truth?
Is it like written in like thewalls, with like hieroglyphics,
with like a wood palette youknow forever?
Is this it?
And the answer is always no.
It's not the ultimate truth.
It's just what you're believing, based on your past or based on
(31:22):
what you've experienced, orwhat you've been taught, or
trauma, or what your parentshave taught you.
You believe that to be true andyou've given that truth so much
momentum that that is yourtruth.
Right, but it's not theultimate truth.
So there's power in that.
If it's not the ultimate truth,then I get to decide what is
true for me and I get to look atit and go okay, if you're not
(31:44):
the ultimate truth, what do Iwant my truth to be?
What do I want to believeinstead?
Right, what would feel so goodto believe about my desire and
what would make me like anenergetic match for my desire?
I like to say, like if you weresomeone that did have that
desire, if you had alreadymanifested it.
What did you need to believe inorder to have it?
(32:06):
Or what do you believe aboutyourself, about that dream,
about that goal, about thedesire?
What do you need to believe inorder to attract it?
Because law of attraction sayslike what you think, what you
believe, who you be, is what youattract.
So if I want to be a millionaire, but I believe that money is
hard to come by and these are mybeliefs around money right,
(32:26):
it's hard to make money.
Other people make money, butnot me, and those are my beliefs
Then I'm not an energetic matchto be a millionaire.
So I have to look at those andI have to go.
Okay, that's not the ultimatetruth, that's just.
You know, I grew up with not alot of money, so no wonder I
wouldn't want to believe.
Instead and this is also animportant part, because you
can't just go I'm going tobelieve that I'm a millionaire,
that I am going to be amillionaire, that you know it's
(32:48):
easy to be a millionaire.
That sometimes feels too faraway from where you're currently
at.
So you have to do these likebaby steps of shifting your
beliefs.
So right now I feel broke asfuck.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Just keep going.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You guys just fuck.
You know where you're at, youknow I'm sorry, mom.
Okay, my mom's shaking her headif you feel broke as fuck and
you really believe that money ishard to come by.
You can't switch and be likemoney is so easy to me.
That's too far away for yournervous system to get around it,
for you to believe it, for youto identify with.
So you have to shift into like,okay, I'm willing to believe
something different around money.
(33:28):
How about that?
Like, how about just a willingto believe something else?
I'm willing to believesomething different around money
.
I'm shifting into believingthat money can be easy for me.
You know, like these little,like bridge affirmations that
baby step your way and you know,once you can believe that
(33:48):
you're willing to believesomething different and that
feels good for you, then you canbe like I'm starting to feel
that money is easier to come by.
Or, you know, I'm open toseeing how money easy, how easy
money can be for me.
I'm open to seeing that.
Then you leave the possibilityfor, like, the universe to bring
that to you.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Anyways, you got to maybe step your way into these
new beliefs and I know you speaka lot about gratitude in those
steps because, remember, thesteps are not easy.
No, and we a lot of times wantthose steps to be easy and then,
when they, when we find outthat they're hard, we give up.
Or or the consistency, like forme, I struggle with consistency
in my own beliefs, but I knowthat you always talk about
(34:28):
having that gratitude.
Why do you think havinggratitude is so important while
you're making these steps, evenif they're not?
Yeah, maybe you make one stepforward, but then, like, you go
two steps back and you're like,how am I still?
How do I still have gratitude,even though I'm like, I feel
like I'm falling behind?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
So I'll say that because the universe is built on
the law of attraction If themore gratitude you can have, the
more you're a match for thingsto be grateful for.
If I can live in a state ofgratitude, the universe is
always matching me going.
She's so grateful for what shehas.
Let me give her more to begrateful for.
If I can live in a state ofgratitude, the universe is
always matching me going.
She's so grateful for what shehas.
Let me give her more to begrateful for.
(35:07):
Let me give her more.
But if you're ungrateful,you're like oh, I don't have
enough, I don't have enough.
The universe is going, oh, shedoesn't have enough, let me give
her more of, I don't haveenough.
So gratitude is super important,important even when you don't
fully have your desires, becauseyou need to create the
(35:28):
sustainability of like beingable to hold um, where you're at
and what you're asking for.
So I like to say, like you know, a person walking right it's
like one foot down, one foot inthe air.
One foot down, one foot in theair.
So you always want to have likethe foot that's down is like
the foot that's in gratitude forwhere you're at and what you
have, even if it's not what youfully want you have.
You have to be grateful for it,because this is where you're at
(35:49):
and this present moment is themoment that gets you to the next
one.
So if you can't be grateful forit, you're not going to be
grateful for the next thing.
Right?
So you have to have one foot ingratitude and the next foot
that's stuck up to take the nextstep, that's the foot that's up
in desire.
So you have to it like duality.
I have to have gratitude forwhere I'm at and what I have and
(36:10):
and desire my next thing.
And when that foot that's indesire gets that manifestation,
you could plop that down intogratitude for it and your next
foot can step up into the nextdesire.
You don't have to be all likeonly gratitude from where I'm at
and I don't need anything else,or like I only want, I only
want, I only want F everything.
Fuck everything that's here.
(36:31):
I don't want it, I don't likeit, it's trash, it's not good
enough for me.
Those, you have to figure outhow to marry them.
You have to figure out how tohave both.
I love the duality of the legin the air and oh, yes and down.
Well, think about if you hadboth feet down.
You're not going anywhere,right?
If you have both feet up,you're falling flat on your ass.
So it's a constant going, withalways being grounded in, in, in
(36:54):
both.
You know, yeah, um, sorry, doyou want me to finish the steps?
oh, my gosh, please no please,I'm like because, because we're
going, it's just coming out ofme, um, okay, where was I at?
Um, what do I want to believeinstead?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
what do I?
What do?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I.
What do I want to believeinstead?
Yeah, so, so in the steps, it'slike, if that's not my ultimate
truth, what I want to believe,instead that's where you bring
in these like affirmations,right, and so this is, this is.
This is the hard part.
I would say.
This is the like daily decidingyour new beliefs, because your
old beliefs have a lot ofmomentum and a lot of power and
a lot of you've chosen that dayafter day after day.
(37:36):
I'm 39 now, so I've chosen mylimiting beliefs for 39 years,
so now I'm going to choosesomething different.
That's like a baby.
I have to really give it all mytime, energy and attention If
it's going to overpower thething that I've been giving
energy to for 39 years.
So this is where people, I think, lose sight.
They're like that's too hard, Ican't seem to believe it.
I can't seem to get myself tobelieve that.
(37:57):
I can't seem to shift mythought.
It's like you have to choose itevery day, even when you don't
feel like it's working.
You have to keep feeding thisnew baby, you know.
And with that comes then action.
So like I think a huge part ofmanifestation is action that a
lot of people don't realize.
They're like I'm just going tovisualize and be in receiving
(38:18):
mode for it and I'm just goingto lay around in my bikini all
day, hoping and praying that thethings fall in my lap, and it's
like you have to listen to yourintuition, same way I did
during the pandemic to take thataction that didn't feel fun to
do but I had to do and you haveto take this action.
I'll pause, actually, and saymeditation is huge for me
(38:40):
because or journaling, becauseit gives me the space and the
silence to hear what thoseaction steps are that I should
take, and not just like what Ithink, but like the silence, to
really feel like what the bestintuitive action step is.
And then you have to take thataction and you have to keep
doing these steps over and overand over, and being a little
(39:00):
delulue and living in the energyof like what I'm creating
instead of what I can physicallysee in my reality.
Cause the reality that you haveright now you've already
manifested.
You've already manifested thisbased on your past thoughts and
your actions and your pastidentity.
I've already manifested this.
So if I don't like what I see,I literally have to put blinders
to this reality and like tuneinto the one I'm creating
(39:23):
internally and let thateventually catch up and reflect
to me outside.
But if I'm constantly lookingat evidence in my external world
.
I'm gonna continue to manifestthis reality over and over and
over, which is the hard part,but it's possible, it's hard,
man, I know it is hard.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I know you're talking to me.
I'm like, I feel like you'retalking to me because I'm going.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
She's like she's like trigger trigger.
I'm trigger you guys with yourfans right now yeah, we'll talk
after the show.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You know you doing, you know this, this work.
That means you're also giving alot of yourself to other people
.
You're spreading yourself very,very thin, in a positive way,
but still very thin.
So for yourself?
How are you able to staygrounded while showing up for
others every single day?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
a couple ways raise my prices and that's how we get
that million, you know I heardthat the more someone pays me,
the more energy I can give thatone person and the less I feel
like I financially have to givemyself to other people to pay
bills you know what I mean andso it frees up a lot of my time
and I can pour into thoseclients more so I appreciate how
(40:32):
honest that response was.
I that was great.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It makes a lot of sense that and you spread
yourself thinner.
I mean, yeah, well, you, youcan spread yourself, like in
this business, like you'reworking for yourself, right?
You can spread yourself as thinas you want exactly so you have
control, but again, that is amanifestation that you made for
yourself and and like my pricesnow are.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I've had to work to these and yeah, and create
beliefs around feeling worthyenough and valuable enough to
charge this price.
You guys, when I tell you what,when I threw that flyer out on
my phone and tossed my phone in2020, my price was $55 for a
session, because that's all Ifelt worthy of and all I
(41:19):
believed I deserved at the time.
And when someone paid me $55, Iwas like oh my God, this is
crazy.
I immediately went to thecalculator and was like how many
sessions do I have to do inorder to provide for myself?
I was like 900.
Okay, we quickly have to changeback to draw.
(41:39):
But not only that, like I hadto start working on my identity
to feel worthy of more, but alsoI was already burning myself
out Right In the first week ofdoing sessions.
I was like this is exhausting,you know.
So that shifted and changedvery quickly for me.
Well, for those, listening.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Who would like to if they can afford you what's the
process?
Like to be able to hire you asas a coach.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Okay, so right now I you can hire me as a one-on-one
coach.
Uh, you can message me onInstagram or go to my website,
which is, by the way, my websiteis wwwjamieleeruizcom.
My Instagram is at James Leefor the number four.
I love having conversations inmy DMs, so please come talk to
(42:26):
me, but I have other optionsbesides one on one coaching.
I have a lot of digital coursesthat you can purchase and like,
do on your own self, self-pacedself-study that are like I've
done she's done them, I've donethem all.
They're very valuable.
There's so much information andthey're like I teach it to you.
It's all in there.
And then, every now and then, Iwill offer different like
(42:48):
virtual things.
So just follow me on Instagramto stay up to date.
Sometimes I'll do like avirtual Reiki healing which
she's come to and she loves.
I just started to do SacralSundays, which is a almost like
a spiritual dance class forbeginners, for non-dancers um,
(43:09):
where you have to go.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Maybe I can do that.
Oh my god, can you?
She can, yes, can you guys come?
Are you speaking for me?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
yes, I am okay, remember, we're finishing each
other's sentences for beginners,like it is not for the dance
industry also, although ifsomebody in the dance industry
wants to come by all means, butit is for like the maybe the mom
who's disconnected from herbody, the new mom who's
disconnected from her body, orlike someone who really wants to
dance but feels too scared andlike there's not a dance class
(43:33):
out there.
That's truly for beginners.
And there's like a spiritualcomponent where we do like a
little meditation at thebeginning to release limiting
beliefs that you have about evendancing and feeling sexy in
your body and being in this roomthat we release before we even
get to it and feelingcomfortable being sexy, like
just because you're a mom orjust because you're 40 plus
(43:54):
years old, like it doesn't you?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
can be as sexy as you want, at any age, and that's
what I love about your class,because you can literally see
how people feel when they're inthere and they're not dancers
back on yeah, and they're evenjust like touching your leg a
certain way, like people don'tdo that.
They don't know that feelsweird to them.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah or they've been shamed their whole lives.
And the truth, the real reasonwhy I even wanted to do this is
because a lot of manifestationis about embodiment.
Right like you have this onebody, this one vessel in this
lifetime.
That this body holds yourmindset, it holds your soul, it
holds your heart, it holds youremotions, it holds everything.
(44:34):
So if you can't feel good andconfident in this body, like
that is who you're being andthat is what you're attracting,
so if you're uncomfortablewalking through this world, the
universe is is like she'suncomfortable, let me give her
more to be uncomfortable about.
Or she doesn't seem like she'san embodiment of confidence, she
doesn't seem like she's anembodiment of a millionaire.
So I'm not going to give thatto her, you know.
(44:56):
So like it's an embodimentpractice Learning to feel good
in your body and allowing thosebeliefs that you're creating to
like ruminate through yourentire body as you walk, as you
stand, as you move, as you dance.
All of it it's like superimportant in the process.
So I've recently brought that asan offer as well I love that.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yes, I know I learned so much I'm gonna have to like
go home and digest with a bigglass of wine after this.
She's going to be a spiritualgirl, the after all I don't know
, you may have got me there alittle closer than I have been.
Yeah, oh look, I opened thedoor.
Okay, I opened the door.
(45:39):
I told her.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I'm like I am.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
She will just push you straight through it.
I feel attacked in the bestkind of way.
But yes, thank you so much forcoming on.
I think we all learned a lotfrom you.
It was very enlightening and Ihope anyone who was listening
and watching also took somethingfrom this as well.
And hey, look her up, she said,slide into her.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
DMs.
Not in a creepy way, though,guys, absolutely not, guys that
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welcome back everyone to milk and honeys.
We're your host, kayla becker,and I'm sitting next to the
lovely vanessa curry.
I do that every week, right, Ikind?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
of tease if I'm going to say it, or if you're going
to say it and I was waiting foryou to say it, but I'm going to
say it.
Vanessa Curry, hi.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, we have another guest in the studio today,
someone that you've known forquite some time, a good friend
of yours, someone I'm getting toknow.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We are diving into a very inspirational conversation
with the multifacetedinspirational conversation with
the multifaceted Jamie Lee Ruiztoday, and you have you know a
long.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
you've done a lot in your career.
You've danced alongside artistslike Becky G Tyga, chris Brown,
christina Aguilera, pitbull,and then, I believe, you hit the
Super Bowl stage with JLo.
Back in what?
2020?
Yes, I did.
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And now she is taking a powerful pivot into becoming
an intuitive life coach and sheis manifesting with big magic,
big love.
You're just so inspirationaland I'm so excited to welcome
Jamie Lee Roos to the podeveryone.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Hi guys, thanks for having me.
I'm so excited to be here.
I love that you guys are doingthis and I'm just so happy to be
a part of it.
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm so excited to be here.
I love that you guys are doingthis, and I'm just so happy to
be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Thank you, thanks for being here.
Well, yeah, we like to bringpeople on who can be inspiring,
and that's kind of the point ofthis entire show is to bring, I
guess, experts in their fieldsto kind of open up the reality
of what it is that you do, and Iwant to hear a little bit about
y'all's story, though, and howy'all became friends.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think it was back in 2009 we met.
I think that was the year thatwe met.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm really bad with time, but if you say 2009, then
I'm going to go with that.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And Jamie and I.
We met because we were doingPussycat Dolls.
They were redoing the group, andher and I were chosen to be a
part of that new group and I'llnever forget she was waiting on
the sidewalk.
We were like going to our firstfitting and there she was, and
she was like you must be Vanessaand I was like you must be
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Jamie, cause we kind of kneweach other's names but not each
other and we just looked at eachother, we took a deep breath
and we were like all right,let's, let's go do this.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I guess you know it's like random new adventure that
we were becoming a part of, butalso I think, like you said to
me earlier today, that that'slike a memorable moment for you
and it is for me too, because Ifeel like you're a super close
friend of mine and a superspecial friend and like that
moment I think we knew that wewere going to be really good
friends and just like meeting onthe sidewalk outside on like La
Cienega yep, oh yes, I remember, right in front of uh, agent
(02:46):
provocateur I think is where itwas exactly I was having this
dance pass, though, jamie, likewhat's like the origin story, I
guess we can say, of you know,of my dance background, dance
background sure I have been.
I always say I've been dancingsince I came out the womb,
literally like three years old.
My mom put me in uh tap, jazz,gymnastics, acro ballet, all the
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things, um, and I just alwaysloved it.
Um, I did gymnastics as well,um, and so actually when I was
seven I was doing both dance andgymnastics.
My mom told me that I had topick one, because they were both
too expensive.
So I picked gymnastics that Ihadn't been doing for a long
time, but I always missed dance.
So when it came time for highschool, I auditioned to go to
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performing arts high school sothat I could dance at school, so
that my mom wouldn't have tolike pay for two things.
So then that brought dance backaround, and so I danced two
hours every day in school forthe performing arts program and
then I danced an hour every dayafter school for dance team.
Then I went into gymnastics forlike three and a half hours
after that.
I was just doing the most.
(03:49):
But after high school Iauditioned to be a Miami Heat
dancer, because I'm from Miamiborn and raised.
So I danced for the Miami Heatfor five years and then from
there I made my journey to LA.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
What do you think gave you that work ethic,
especially starting so young andwanting to balance dance and
gymnastics, which oneindividually is a huge
undertaking on its own.
What do you think you gotpicked that up from?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know that's a good question.
I think it's just like whenit's all you know.
It's like it's all you know andall you want to do, and I guess
I can thank my parents for that, for putting me in so many
sports and so many differentthings at such a young age.
I didn't really have a desireto hang out with friends and do
regular kid things because I waslike I'm going to dance, I'm
going to gymnastics and I lovedit so much that I didn't really
(04:37):
want to be anywhere else.
It wasn't until high school thatI was like boys.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Where have y'all been this whole time.
I'm like drinking, like what isthis?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I was like fuck this, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's why I kept you out of trouble for a little bit
.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I mean look at the end of the day too.
When you moved here I mean Iknow this is like kind of like
fast forward you had such abeautiful dance journey and in
2020, you know was like I knowhow much of a memorable moment
this was for you to perform withJLo at Super Bowl 2020.
And wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
in Miami, yes, and I love saying the fact that I just
met you, like recently, that Ican say oh my God, then I
definitely have seen you perform.
And then I have people who cansay, oh my God, we all.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That was one of the most iconic performances in
super bowl history yes, peoplesay that, they do say that and
they're like I watched you, Iwatched that performance and how
does that so?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I, I know you.
You started your intuitivecoaching.
You know a little bit afterthat, but that is something do
you ever think about?
That you did manifest, thateven before you were a
manifestation, uh, you knowprofessional, you know what.
I mean, like, how does thatfeel?
Like, how did you feel when youwere in that moment?
What was it like being on stage?
(05:51):
Do you even remember it?
Because sometimes I feel likewe're on stage or you know,
you're live television and I'mlike how did it go?
did, I do okay because I don'tremember, but I think I did good
, you know.
So what was that?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Actually, that whole experience was like I would say
honestly, it was like the peakof my dance career,
interestingly enough, becauseright after that COVID happened
and that was the end of my dancecareer.
But it was like the peak of mydance career, the highlight of
my dance career.
I even remember being likeafterwards, when the world shut
down, I was like, honestly, Iwent out with a bang, like yeah,
(06:25):
I couldn't ask for a better wayto go out, but it was just like
everything I had beenmanifesting to perform with J-Lo
, who's like the Latina queen.
You know what I mean?
I'm Latina, I'm from Miami, itwas in Miami.
It just felt like so inalignment and I absolutely
manifested that situation.
I had been wanting to dance forJLo for a really long time.
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I had been wanting to dance inthe Super Bowl for a really long
time.
I think, as a professionaldancer, super Bowl is your like.
It's like your bucket top notch.
It's like Super Bowl as afootball player is also Super
Bowl as a dancer yep.
So yeah, um, I was reallypresent.
Through that.
I also was like not my fullhealed self for sure.
(07:07):
So there was a lot of likepartying and drinking throughout
that time as well, which makesit a little blurry, but I was
present in the sense that I waslike I was really aware of how
amazing it was and how specialit was and how grateful I was to
be there.
When that doesn't happen on alljobs, it's right.
It happens in hindsight a lotwhere you're like, oh my God, I
wish I would have been morepresent.
But I have no regrets because Iwas in it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I was so in it.
What was that call like whenyou found out that you were
going to have that opportunity?
Like walk me through that.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So the choreographer for that performance was Paris
Global.
Who's like iconic?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
choreographer.
And just to bring this fullcircle really quick now that I'm
a life coach, paris global isone of my clients.
Wow, which is amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I have chills at the full circle of that right now,
the synergy of it all?
yeah, but she is also like abucket list for professional
dancers.
Like you want to work for parisglobal?
She's like iconic choreographerand I had worked with her once
years back when I was dancing ontour with pit bull.
We brought her in as a guestchoreographer to choreograph one
(08:11):
of the numbers, um, but she hadnever hired me.
She came in.
We hired her, you know.
So after that I was like Ooh,like I hope she hires me for
something.
And she did.
She ended up hiring me for theYummy music video Justin Bieber.
Yummy, I don't know if youremember the video Iconic.
But we all had pink hair in thevideo.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I remember I dyed my hair pink for this.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I was like Paris.
Global wants me to dye my hairpink.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, Say yes, done.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I had been blonde my whole life and I felt insane.
But, I was like we're doingthis Also.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Can I curse here?
Yeah, I can beep it out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to.
But yeah, I've been beeping myown cell phone, so you're fine,
I love to curse, it's myfavorite.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What's your favorite cuss word?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Okay, I knew that.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I love that.
We all have the same same I.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
It's like orgasmic literally it is to throw a
couple f-bombs.
I just love it.
I feel like you're good healingand everyone should do it.
Yep, anywho.
Um, so she hired me for thatvideo and I was like, oh my god,
like I manifested at parisglobal, whatever there was also
like I felt like 100 girls onthat job still I don't care, my
foot was in the door.
And then I remember there was alot of chatter on that job in
rehearsals and on set, of beinglike oh, pierce is doing super
(09:28):
bowl for j-lo, like I'm doing it.
Did you get the call?
Did you get put on hold?
Did you get asked?
and I was like no, but I kepthearing every day someone new
would come in and be like I gotasked I got asked and I was like
I'm like god, please, like ifthere was ever something you
know, then you're also on thejob, like trying to be the best
freaking dancer, because she'swatching you and she's booking
(09:49):
dancers for the super bowl, um,and I remember that like the
whole job went by and I didn'tget asked, but like the job was
over and then I got an email andI got asked and I was like,
okay, but I just got asked myavailability, I didn't get
booked and I'm just saying okay,okay, okay, okay, okay, we're
almost there we get it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We're in a little bit .
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Then I started people hearing people getting booked.
Friends were telling me likeI'm booked, I'm going to miami
this day and I'm like I'm notbooked.
The job started, people went tomiami and started the rehearsal
process and I still, at thispoint, you thought I didn't get
it.
But I didn't get released and Ididn't get booked.
I'm just like waiting, becausesometimes you don't get released
, yeah, usually I just didn'tknow.
But I was holding on to thatmanifestation and that vision of
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me doing this.
I was like I just felt it in mybones that it was for me and
that it was going to happen,regardless of, like what was
happening externally, and I justkept holding the vision,
holding the vision.
And then it was like Christmasbreak.
They were like, hey, we need toadd two girls.
Like are you still available?
I have chills right now.
I'm like, yes, absolutely.
When do I fly out?
(10:51):
Like sign me up, my bag isalready packed.
And so, yes, I manifested thatand you asked what the feeling
was of that process.
It was like nerve-wracking butlike exciting.
And I think that that'smanifestation in general is like
nerve wracking, like is itgoing to happen, and then you
have to shift into thisexcitement of like it is going
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to happen, and I'm going to beexcited because I just know and
believe that it's coming for me,and that's the energy that I
was in and I think that that'swhy I attracted it to myself.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, and I'm so glad that that happened for you.
Like you said right before theworld shut down and you were
able to experience somethingthat was probably at the tip top
of your bucket list, um, and soI was going to ask what the
internal signs you?
You know that you felt knowingit was time to make the change,
but I think the world did helpyou to make that decision.
Um, but even when that didhappen and you know you thought
(11:42):
that maybe dance is about tomove into the rear view, rear
view mirror.
How are you feeling processingall that, knowing that your
life's going to take thisdrastic change away from
anything else that you've done?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, this is the story.
This is like a story.
But so, as the world isshutting down and everyone's
like what are you going to do?
What are you doing?
What's the plan?
I literally, like, gave up myapartment, I put things in
storage and I was like, oh,let's go back a second.
After the Superbowl, I was on ahigh.
I actually booked my seconddream job, which was to dance
(12:16):
for major laser.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I don't know, if you know who they are, but Diplo and
two other guys are like a groupin dancer world.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
As a female dancer, like the dancers for major laser
, are called the laser gals andthey are like the epitome you
want to be a laser gal, everyonewants to be a laser gal and I?
Another thing that I wasmanifesting, but I didn't think
that it was going to happen forme, because I was always blonde
and there was already a blondeon there, but then I had pink
hair because of the music videoand put it out of my head.
(12:45):
But as soon as super bowl isover I'm on this high.
I get an email like are youavailable to come to back to la
and audition for major laser aprivate audition.
I'm like university.
You're really giving it to me.
2020 is really something.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
2020 is my year 2020 is my year.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You can't tell me nothing like j-bo and major
laser.
This is crazy.
So I go back to la, I audition,I book it.
I'm like, wow, I manifestedthis too and I'm like it's the
pink hair.
The pink hair opened the doorfor me to get in there.
Whatever I book it, we do awhole week's worth of rehearsals
to learn the show and we havedates booked through the entire
(13:24):
year.
Mind you, this is like what?
Uh, february, superbowl is infebruary and we have dates
booked through the whole year,like tomorrowland, like all
these festivals around the worldlike ultra and miami and I'm
just like this is gonna be themost lit year of my life.
I'm on the high of all highs.
And right after we learned thewhole show, the pandemic
(13:48):
happened and little by little westarted getting emails like
this show is canceled, this showis canceled, this show is
canceled, this one's still onhold, don't worry.
Blah, blah, blah, whatever.
So, ironically enough, ourfirst show for Major Lazer was
supposed to be Ultra in Miami.
So I had a flight to go toMiami.
So when the world startsshutting down and all the shows
get canceled, I literally waslike leases up, putting my stuff
(14:10):
in storage, getting out of here, and I was like can you not
cancel my flight to Miami?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Miami.
They were like sure you canhave the flight.
I go to Miami, I stay with mysister and my brother-in-law in
my sister's home.
Um, they spare bedroom, so Ihave like my own room there and
I'm just like, okay, cool, liketwo weeks, how fun, you know?
Oh, my gosh, two weeks, couldyou imagine?
We're drinking up a storm.
We're having zoom happy hoursyeah, friends, we were.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We were doing like videos of everyone, where
everyone was like in a box yeah,like you look up and then you
look to the right.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
We're just all having wine and all each other makeup
brush, yes, videos, all of thatwe're doing, all of that.
It's the best time ever.
And then two weeks turns intothree, turns into a month, turns
into okay, like this is goingto be longer than we thought and
I'll basically give it to you.
Like this, I now am realizingthat I have nowhere to go,
(15:04):
nothing to do, and I'm forced toliterally just sit with myself
and my feelings and like theuncomfortable truths of myself
that I had like been sodistracted from before.
Like my whole life was likedance, tour, show, travel with
all these artists, and now I'mlike sitting in one place and
(15:24):
everything that I had likesuppressed was like flooding to
the surface.
I say it all the time, but I'mlike it was like like I could
throw up with the discomfortthat I was feeling of like the
truths of what I felt aboutmyself, and I had no choice but
to like look at it and sit withit.
And so I put myself throughwhat I like to call a self-love
(15:44):
bootcamp, because I realizedlike, ooh, all these feelings
are literally telling me that Idon't love myself or that I
don't have a healthyrelationship with myself, and
I'm thinking all these terriblethings in myself.
I have nothing to do but sitwith it, look at it, feel it,
accept it, love it, and I had alife coach at that time.
I had recently hired a lifecoach and she was helping me
(16:07):
through this process and shetold me to get this book called
mirror work and it's aboutliterally looking in the mirror
and like learning to likeyourself, learning to love
yourself, sitting with thediscomfort and just like owning
it instead of like shying awayfrom it, and that is really hard
, by the way.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So hard I got that book after she got it, and to
look at yourself in the mirrorand talk to yourself and you
have to be honest, like actuallyhonest, actually honest, not
fake honest.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
No, that's what I was learning in that I was
realizing that, like all thehair and makeup and show and
performance and being the hotgirl on the jobs, like that was
my fake confidence my whole lifeI didn't have to ever create
real, true confidence of knowingmyself because all of that was
(16:53):
always there and that was allgone.
Like my pink hair was now grownout to here I my extensions
like can't gone, Like no need toput on makeup, it's just me at
my core and I'm like cringeuncomfortable.
And so I put myself throughself-boot camp, learned to love
(17:14):
myself and it wasn't just like aoh cool, done, we love
ourselves, it's to this day.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I'm still doing it.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But I call it a boot camp because I really like
that's all I did for like amonth, that when I came out of
that I was like whoa, this iscrazy.
I'm really learning to lovemyself and I can only imagine
how many people out there arefeeling the same thing, right.
And so, in the midst of like,where's my dance career?
Where's the next dollar comingfrom?
(17:41):
What is life?
What is the life I've alwaysknown?
And also like learning a newversion of myself and a new
relationship with myself thatI've never had.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And like you're just having like your new identity
this identity that you've hadsince you were a child, which
you are a dancer.
And now you have to figure outlike, yeah, who am I?
Who am I?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
without dance.
Yeah, to figure out like yeah,who am I?
Who am I without dance?
Yeah, and and there's like this, really like void area, when
it's like you're releasing yourold self but you're not your new
self yet you're like I'm no one, I'm nothing I'm what I'm
floating?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm blowing in the wind you got through your boot
camp, you started realizing okay, there's more to life than who
I was.
I have so much more.
What were you seeing inyourself that gave you hope that
you could find this next?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, so previous to that, I think, like in the year
or two or a couple of yearsbefore that, my dad had passed
away and so that had.
It's okay, thank you.
That had sparked something inme already to start searching
and discovering and like findingmindfulness and finding
spirituality and finding peacewith loss and grief and all of
(18:47):
that.
So that had already led me onmy like personal development
journey and spiritual, spiritualjourney.
But again like, because I wasso distracted with like you know
that like lady gaga mean that'slike bus tour other show next.
That was my life.
It's the fast pace, literallythat I was healing, but I was
healing as much as I could with,like you do a show, then after
(19:10):
the show you go out and youdrink and then you go home.
You sleep two hours, you get up, you go on an airplane, you go
to the next show, you take a nap, you do the show, you get home.
You have three days off.
All you want to do is sleep,laundry, pack, repeat.
(19:31):
It's like how much was Iactually sitting with myself?
So I was like on the journey,but like surface level, I guess
you could say, because I didn'thave this time and space to
really do it.
And so I knew for a while thatI liked this like personal
development world, and I likedthe spirituality aspect of
things and I liked healing and Iliked that.
And I knew I would always sayto myself like this is cool,
like this is something I coulddo after dance, you know.
And then I had gotten the lifecoach and I was like that's cool
(19:52):
what she's doing that, likethat's so cool what she's doing
for me, like I could see myselfdoing that one day, now that I
know what it looks like and thatthere's a job for that you know
.
But again, I always thought itwas like after dance.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
After dance it felt very, very very far away, yeah,
yeah, who knew at that pointwhen after dance would be?
It could have gone another 20years, and so you were forced in
to this new phase of your life,and clearly you have embraced
it to the fullest.
You seem very happy and excitedabout this phase of your life.
I would assume you would definesuccess very differently now.
I would assume you would definesuccess very differently now,
(20:24):
though, than you did then.
To success then Major Lazer,j-lo, pitbull, yep, now helping
other people you know discovertheir, their true purpose.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Totally.
And not only that, but like.
Success to me is like I thinkmy accolades before were like
Super Bowl with J-Lo.
Chris Brown music video, JustinBieber music video dancing on
tour with Pitbull dancing forBecky G Like those are my
accolades.
My accolades now are likelearning to love myself, healing
from insecurities, settingboundaries in relationships.
(20:56):
Like that is success to me,like beyond any dance accolades,
success that anybody can.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah point out for me .
I know that you live in a spacethat is very, very sentimental
to you and like that's veryimportant to you, and I know
you've moved a couple times tofind that space and I feel like
now you're home you can see it,how comfortable you are in that
space and I know that that'salso like a huge success for you
.
You plan to putting your TV onyour wall.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
You know like she's like she's, like I'd never done
by yourself no no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I paid for someone to come put my TV on my wall but,
like I had always been the girlthat was like puts it on the
thing, yeah, you know.
And it just like puts it on thething, yeah, you know.
And I felt like this is verybig girl of me in this big girl
home.
I'm like success, yeah, like Ilove myself, I love who I'm
becoming, I love my life, I lovemy, the power that I, that I
feel in creating my life.
(21:57):
Um, I love that I'm able tohelp other people.
Feel that way, I love thepossibilities that are an option
for me, like that is success tome.
And not to say that the dancethings are not.
For sure, but it's just successlooks different now.
You know what I mean,absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
When did you feel like when did you know that this
was like?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
your calling.
So in that time pandemic timeand I'm putting myself through
self-love bootcamp dance isnon-existent.
I literally had that momentwhere I was like I know I had
been saying that like thespiritual life coaching thing
was after dance, but I thinkafter dance is literally today
it was like I felt like my backwas against the wall and I was
(22:41):
looking around and I was likeafter dance is right, oh my god,
I didn't think it was going tocome this fast and it did.
And so I was really practicingmy intuition at that time and
just like listening to, like thedivine downloads that I was
getting, and listening to whatmy soul was telling me, my heart
was telling me, my body wastelling me, and it was just a
(23:03):
very clear message, likeeverything you've just put
yourself through yourself, thebootcamp, everything that your
life coach has helped you with,all these things you need to go
help people do that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And I was like absolutely not.
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I've just I'm just tapping into this and it was
like no, this is what you needto do.
So I just I followed.
I took inspired action on thatvery scary, non-logical step
that was being presented to me,and I'll never forget it.
I made like a little Canvaflyer.
I don't even know if it was onCanva, to be honest, it could
have been just straight onInstagram yeah, yeah, yeah, and
(23:37):
I was like whatever it takes.
I was like now offeringone-on-one life coaching
sessions If you want help withany of these things.
I said like mindset,manifestation, self-love,
intuition, personal power,whatever.
Who knows what I put on there.
I was like DM me, I posted it,I threw my phone across the room
and I was like what have I done?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Was that, do you think the hardest part about
letting go of Jamie the dancer?
Right, like, like you were, youwere known.
That's it.
Like Jamie, you are a dancer,this is it.
She's done everything thatshe's wanted to do.
And now you're back up againstthe wall and you're like, oh
okay, I have to just put it out,and I'm sure if you look at it
(24:18):
right now, you'd be like whatthe actual was that?
You know, but edit right now.
You'd be like what the actualwas that you know, but god,
there's so much editing thisepisode.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm just kidding, I'm sorry, I'm sorry what the
actual?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
okay, keep going, just a bunch of beeps.
People are like what did youactually say in that episode?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
all I heard was sorry , guys, sorry sorry guys, but
yeah, like would you say likewhat was the hardest part for
you?
Because what, or was that thehardest part?
Like to start to put that flyerout there and you chuck your
phone across the room and you'relike this is no, take backs.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, that was scary for many reasons, because I was
following my intuition insteadof my logical mind, which I had
done my whole life.
You know, and now I know thatlogic limits you, you know it's,
you think this is what you'resupposed to do, because you've
been told this is the rightthing, blah, blah, blah,
whatever.
And it's like intuition isalways guiding you to your best
and highest self.
So, even if it doesn't makesense, like even if my desires
(25:12):
don't make sense, and what?
I want for my life.
It doesn't matter, it's therefor a reason.
Same way action step was giftedto me for a reason.
I just knew that I had to do it.
There was, it was like Icouldn't not do it.
I had to do it, as scary as itwas, so I did it.
But then the next scary stepwas like what are people going
to think of me?
Are they going to take meserious?
(25:33):
All they've really known me foris dance, but not only dance,
but like shaking my ass.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yep, dance, which we love twerking, dance like with
my ass out, but then people havepeople have their certain
opinions and judgmental likeyeah, like how you've had your
ass out, how I should belistening to you.
How can you help me change mylife?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
all you do is shake your ass on instagram and on
stages.
It's like, who are you to tellme how to heal myself, how to
change my life?
And so I had to grapple withthat own identity of myself and
finding, at first I felt like Ihad to remove that identity,
become this light life coach.
And then it was like no, thatis me and that is what led me
(26:10):
here and I had.
I think now I'm a physicalmanifestation of the integration
of both of those.
And absolutely the real amazinglike turning part was when,
like, I had a client that hiredme and was like you know,
someone asked me what I wasdoing.
Later, this is my client.
And I told them, like, oh, Ihave life coaching session.
(26:31):
They're like, oh, like, what'sthat?
Like?
How is that different thantherapy?
And she was like does yourtherapist dance and twerk her
ass on stage with taiga majorlaser?
She's like that's why I'm here.
And I was like whoa, yep, whoa,whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I have chills because it's just like every version of
you like leads to the versionof you that you're supposed to
be, absolutely was that themoment that you got off that
call and you're like, oh, thisis what I'm supposed to be doing
and this whole journey of mydance career has brought me here
, because you do a lot ofmanifestation and life coaching
(27:07):
for people in the dance industryand help navigate that, because
the dance industry is hard, man.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I mean this whole industry is hard, right, but
it's like the dance industryit's like it's very close-knit,
it's very small, um, and there'sa lot to navigate you probably
get pigeonholed into, like yousaid, being the dancer who's on
the stage shaking their ass andso to be able to cross over to
something like this, that, yeah,you know people look at you and
rely on you for for guidance, Ican imagine that's very hard
(27:34):
it's very hard and I it took mea long time to notice it, but
there was a moment where Ilooked back and I was like 90 of
my clients are dancers orchoreographers or in this
industry or have been in theindustry at some point in their
lives.
I was like whoa, I'm doingsomething here, like I'm being
like the mindset manifestationhealing coach that I wish I
(27:57):
would have had when I was in theindustry.
That would help me navigatethat aspect of it and that was
really, I'll say, freaking cool.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
So you don't have to believe me, I'm still going to
put a beep over it.
It's a good thing, I think.
For the rest of the episode, Ido want to maybe get, like you
know, maybe we'll get some freeprofessional, you know, guidance
from you.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Like you want me to teach you how to twerk.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, that will be on our Patreon.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
that will be on our Patreon, we'll have another site
that you can go to and we'll beshaking and twerking.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I am half black, okay , and I have the lower half of
my body, that should be, able tomove.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I cannot twerk, I cannot shake it.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Maybe y'all can teach me.
On another.
You talk about manifestationquite a bit.
What does that practice looklike?
We've heard about how it hadworked in your personal life,
but when you are talking tosomeone who needs help on
manifestation, what does thatlook like in your coaching?
Do you want?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
me to give you like the steps.
Sure, like my steps, becausehere's the thing I do like logic
and I'm a Virgo and I'm a VirgoTaurus, taurus, so I'm very
earth grounded, virgo and I'm aVirgo Taurus, taurus, so I'm
very earth grounded,perfectionist.
Need steps, rules, directions.
I am very much that, but I alsohave like this intuitive,
(29:12):
witchy, flowy side of me.
So I love steps.
You know what I mean and Ithink that I need that in
manifestation.
I can't just like visualize andlike help and praise it comes
to me like that doesn't work forme.
I need, so I'm to give them toyou guys, please do Okay.
So step one is tuning in to yourdesire.
What the f*** do you want?
Like, what do you want?
You know, and not just likewhat you think you want, what
(29:32):
people have told you you'vewanted, or like what's been
presented as possible for you,but like, if you really tune
into your heart, everybody hasunique desires that have been
placed in there by and I'm goingto say, god, source, universe,
whatever you believe to be trueas a higher power for you has
placed a desire in your heart.
Like you came onto this earthwith this like divine assignment
(29:52):
, like a blueprint, navigationof what you're supposed to
create and have in this lifetime.
So if you can connect to whatthat is and connect to what that
is, figure that out like truly,that's step one, right step two
is going like okay, whatthoughts do I have, what beliefs
do I have around this desirethat maybe are limiting me, or I
(30:15):
call them limiting beliefs.
Like what do I believe?
Okay, when I think of my desireand what I want and that's so
exciting the next thing isusually this like cringy, like,
but I'll never have it becauseof X, y, z, or like I'm not good
enough for that, or what willthis person say?
Or am I good?
Like, am I worthy of havingthat?
Whatever?
Some of them are conscious andsome of them are like super
subconscious that we have toreally work to get to.
But if you could literally writeall of those down of, like,
(30:39):
what do you believe aroundhaving this desire, what do you
believe to be true, and thatcould be good or that could be
bad, and then asking yourself,right, like, looking at the
limiting beliefs, like thethings that tell you you can't
have it, this is, like a reallyimportant step is asking
yourself like is that limitingbelief the ultimate truth Like?
Is it written in a Bible andthe stars in the sky?
(31:01):
Did a wizard come down andcondemn you and say that is your
truth forever, can't have it,you'll never have it?
Is it the ultimate truth?
Is it like written in like thewalls, with like hieroglyphics,
with like a wood palette youknow forever?
Is this it?
And the answer is always no.
It's not the ultimate truth.
It's just what you're believing, based on your past or based on
(31:22):
what you've experienced, orwhat you've been taught, or
trauma, or what your parentshave taught you.
You believe that to be true andyou've given that truth so much
momentum that that is yourtruth.
Right, but it's not theultimate truth.
So there's power in that.
If it's not the ultimate truth,then I get to decide what is
true for me and I get to look atit and go okay, if you're not
(31:44):
the ultimate truth, what do Iwant my truth to be?
What do I want to believeinstead?
Right, what would feel so goodto believe about my desire and
what would make me like anenergetic match for my desire?
I like to say, like if you weresomeone that did have that
desire, if you had alreadymanifested it.
What did you need to believe inorder to have it?
(32:06):
Or what do you believe aboutyourself, about that dream,
about that goal, about thedesire?
What do you need to believe inorder to attract it?
Because law of attraction sayslike what you think, what you
believe, who you be, is what youattract.
So if I want to be a millionaire, but I believe that money is
hard to come by and these are mybeliefs around money right,
(32:26):
it's hard to make money.
Other people make money, butnot me, and those are my beliefs
Then I'm not an energetic matchto be a millionaire.
So I have to look at those andI have to go.
Okay, that's not the ultimatetruth, that's just.
You know, I grew up with not alot of money, so no wonder I
wouldn't want to believe.
Instead and this is also animportant part, because you
can't just go I'm going tobelieve that I'm a millionaire,
that I am going to be amillionaire, that you know it's
(32:48):
easy to be a millionaire.
That sometimes feels too faraway from where you're currently
at.
So you have to do these likebaby steps of shifting your
beliefs.
So right now I feel broke asfuck.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Just keep going.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You guys just fuck.
You know where you're at, youknow I'm sorry, mom.
Okay, my mom's shaking her headif you feel broke as fuck and
you really believe that money ishard to come by.
You can't switch and be likemoney is so easy to me.
That's too far away for yournervous system to get around it,
for you to believe it, for youto identify with.
So you have to shift into like,okay, I'm willing to believe
something different around money.
(33:28):
How about that?
Like, how about just a willingto believe something else?
I'm willing to believesomething different around money
.
I'm shifting into believingthat money can be easy for me.
You know, like these little,like bridge affirmations that
baby step your way and you know,once you can believe that
(33:48):
you're willing to believesomething different and that
feels good for you, then you canbe like I'm starting to feel
that money is easier to come by.
Or, you know, I'm open toseeing how money easy, how easy
money can be for me.
I'm open to seeing that.
Then you leave the possibilityfor, like, the universe to bring
that to you.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Anyways, you got to maybe step your way into these
new beliefs and I know you speaka lot about gratitude in those
steps because, remember, thesteps are not easy.
No, and we a lot of times wantthose steps to be easy and then,
when they, when we find outthat they're hard, we give up.
Or or the consistency, like forme, I struggle with consistency
in my own beliefs, but I knowthat you always talk about
(34:28):
having that gratitude.
Why do you think havinggratitude is so important while
you're making these steps, evenif they're not?
Yeah, maybe you make one stepforward, but then, like, you go
two steps back and you're like,how am I still?
How do I still have gratitude,even though I'm like, I feel
like I'm falling behind?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
So I'll say that because the universe is built on
the law of attraction If themore gratitude you can have, the
more you're a match for thingsto be grateful for.
If I can live in a state ofgratitude, the universe is
always matching me going.
She's so grateful for what shehas.
Let me give her more to begrateful for.
If I can live in a state ofgratitude, the universe is
always matching me going.
She's so grateful for what shehas.
Let me give her more to begrateful for.
(35:07):
Let me give her more.
But if you're ungrateful,you're like oh, I don't have
enough, I don't have enough.
The universe is going, oh, shedoesn't have enough, let me give
her more of, I don't haveenough.
So gratitude is super important,important even when you don't
fully have your desires, becauseyou need to create the
(35:28):
sustainability of like beingable to hold um, where you're at
and what you're asking for.
So I like to say, like you know, a person walking right it's
like one foot down, one foot inthe air.
One foot down, one foot in theair.
So you always want to have likethe foot that's down is like
the foot that's in gratitude forwhere you're at and what you
have, even if it's not what youfully want you have.
You have to be grateful for it,because this is where you're at
(35:49):
and this present moment is themoment that gets you to the next
one.
So if you can't be grateful forit, you're not going to be
grateful for the next thing.
Right?
So you have to have one foot ingratitude and the next foot
that's stuck up to take the nextstep, that's the foot that's up
in desire.
So you have to it like duality.
I have to have gratitude forwhere I'm at and what I have and
(36:10):
and desire my next thing.
And when that foot that's indesire gets that manifestation,
you could plop that down intogratitude for it and your next
foot can step up into the nextdesire.
You don't have to be all likeonly gratitude from where I'm at
and I don't need anything else,or like I only want, I only
want, I only want F everything.
Fuck everything that's here.
(36:31):
I don't want it, I don't likeit, it's trash, it's not good
enough for me.
Those, you have to figure outhow to marry them.
You have to figure out how tohave both.
I love the duality of the legin the air and oh, yes and down.
Well, think about if you hadboth feet down.
You're not going anywhere,right?
If you have both feet up,you're falling flat on your ass.
So it's a constant going, withalways being grounded in, in, in
(36:54):
both.
You know, yeah, um, sorry, doyou want me to finish the steps?
oh, my gosh, please no please,I'm like because, because we're
going, it's just coming out ofme, um, okay, where was I at?
Um, what do I want to believeinstead?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
what do I?
What do?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I.
What do I want to believeinstead?
Yeah, so, so in the steps, it'slike, if that's not my ultimate
truth, what I want to believe,instead that's where you bring
in these like affirmations,right, and so this is, this is.
This is the hard part.
I would say.
This is the like daily decidingyour new beliefs, because your
old beliefs have a lot ofmomentum and a lot of power and
a lot of you've chosen that dayafter day after day.
(37:36):
I'm 39 now, so I've chosen mylimiting beliefs for 39 years,
so now I'm going to choosesomething different.
That's like a baby.
I have to really give it all mytime, energy and attention If
it's going to overpower thething that I've been giving
energy to for 39 years.
So this is where people, I think, lose sight.
They're like that's too hard, Ican't seem to believe it.
I can't seem to get myself tobelieve that.
(37:57):
I can't seem to shift mythought.
It's like you have to choose itevery day, even when you don't
feel like it's working.
You have to keep feeding thisnew baby, you know.
And with that comes then action.
So like I think a huge part ofmanifestation is action that a
lot of people don't realize.
They're like I'm just going tovisualize and be in receiving
(38:18):
mode for it and I'm just goingto lay around in my bikini all
day, hoping and praying that thethings fall in my lap, and it's
like you have to listen to yourintuition, same way I did
during the pandemic to take thataction that didn't feel fun to
do but I had to do and you haveto take this action.
I'll pause, actually, and saymeditation is huge for me
(38:40):
because or journaling, becauseit gives me the space and the
silence to hear what thoseaction steps are that I should
take, and not just like what Ithink, but like the silence, to
really feel like what the bestintuitive action step is.
And then you have to take thataction and you have to keep
doing these steps over and overand over, and being a little
(39:00):
delulue and living in the energyof like what I'm creating
instead of what I can physicallysee in my reality.
Cause the reality that you haveright now you've already
manifested.
You've already manifested thisbased on your past thoughts and
your actions and your pastidentity.
I've already manifested this.
So if I don't like what I see,I literally have to put blinders
to this reality and like tuneinto the one I'm creating
(39:23):
internally and let thateventually catch up and reflect
to me outside.
But if I'm constantly lookingat evidence in my external world
.
I'm gonna continue to manifestthis reality over and over and
over, which is the hard part,but it's possible, it's hard,
man, I know it is hard.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I know you're talking to me.
I'm like, I feel like you'retalking to me because I'm going.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
She's like she's like trigger trigger.
I'm trigger you guys with yourfans right now yeah, we'll talk
after the show.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You know you doing, you know this, this work.
That means you're also giving alot of yourself to other people
.
You're spreading yourself very,very thin, in a positive way,
but still very thin.
So for yourself?
How are you able to staygrounded while showing up for
others every single day?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
a couple ways raise my prices and that's how we get
that million, you know I heardthat the more someone pays me,
the more energy I can give thatone person and the less I feel
like I financially have to givemyself to other people to pay
bills you know what I mean andso it frees up a lot of my time
and I can pour into thoseclients more so I appreciate how
(40:32):
honest that response was.
I that was great.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It makes a lot of sense that and you spread
yourself thinner.
I mean, yeah, well, you, youcan spread yourself, like in
this business, like you'reworking for yourself, right?
You can spread yourself as thinas you want exactly so you have
control, but again, that is amanifestation that you made for
yourself and and like my pricesnow are.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I've had to work to these and yeah, and create
beliefs around feeling worthyenough and valuable enough to
charge this price.
You guys, when I tell you what,when I threw that flyer out on
my phone and tossed my phone in2020, my price was $55 for a
session, because that's all Ifelt worthy of and all I
(41:19):
believed I deserved at the time.
And when someone paid me $55, Iwas like oh my God, this is
crazy.
I immediately went to thecalculator and was like how many
sessions do I have to do inorder to provide for myself?
I was like 900.
Okay, we quickly have to changeback to draw.
(41:39):
But not only that, like I hadto start working on my identity
to feel worthy of more, but alsoI was already burning myself
out Right In the first week ofdoing sessions.
I was like this is exhausting,you know.
So that shifted and changedvery quickly for me.
Well, for those, listening.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Who would like to if they can afford you what's the
process?
Like to be able to hire you asas a coach.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Okay, so right now I you can hire me as a one-on-one
coach.
Uh, you can message me onInstagram or go to my website,
which is, by the way, my websiteis wwwjamieleeruizcom.
My Instagram is at James Leefor the number four.
I love having conversations inmy DMs, so please come talk to
(42:26):
me, but I have other optionsbesides one on one coaching.
I have a lot of digital coursesthat you can purchase and like,
do on your own self, self-pacedself-study that are like I've
done she's done them, I've donethem all.
They're very valuable.
There's so much information andthey're like I teach it to you.
It's all in there.
And then, every now and then, Iwill offer different like
(42:48):
virtual things.
So just follow me on Instagramto stay up to date.
Sometimes I'll do like avirtual Reiki healing which
she's come to and she loves.
I just started to do SacralSundays, which is a almost like
a spiritual dance class forbeginners, for non-dancers um,
(43:09):
where you have to go.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Maybe I can do that.
Oh my god, can you?
She can, yes, can you guys come?
Are you speaking for me?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
yes, I am okay, remember, we're finishing each
other's sentences for beginners,like it is not for the dance
industry also, although ifsomebody in the dance industry
wants to come by all means, butit is for like the maybe the mom
who's disconnected from herbody, the new mom who's
disconnected from her body, orlike someone who really wants to
dance but feels too scared andlike there's not a dance class
(43:33):
out there.
That's truly for beginners.
And there's like a spiritualcomponent where we do like a
little meditation at thebeginning to release limiting
beliefs that you have about evendancing and feeling sexy in
your body and being in this roomthat we release before we even
get to it and feelingcomfortable being sexy, like
just because you're a mom orjust because you're 40 plus
(43:54):
years old, like it doesn't you?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
can be as sexy as you want, at any age, and that's
what I love about your class,because you can literally see
how people feel when they're inthere and they're not dancers
back on yeah, and they're evenjust like touching your leg a
certain way, like people don'tdo that.
They don't know that feelsweird to them.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah or they've been shamed their whole lives.
And the truth, the real reasonwhy I even wanted to do this is
because a lot of manifestationis about embodiment.
Right like you have this onebody, this one vessel in this
lifetime.
That this body holds yourmindset, it holds your soul, it
holds your heart, it holds youremotions, it holds everything.
(44:34):
So if you can't feel good andconfident in this body, like
that is who you're being andthat is what you're attracting,
so if you're uncomfortablewalking through this world, the
universe is is like she'suncomfortable, let me give her
more to be uncomfortable about.
Or she doesn't seem like she'san embodiment of confidence, she
doesn't seem like she's anembodiment of a millionaire.
So I'm not going to give thatto her, you know.
(44:56):
So like it's an embodimentpractice Learning to feel good
in your body and allowing thosebeliefs that you're creating to
like ruminate through yourentire body as you walk, as you
stand, as you move, as you dance.
All of it it's like superimportant in the process.
So I've recently brought that asan offer as well I love that.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yes, I know I learned so much I'm gonna have to like
go home and digest with a bigglass of wine after this.
She's going to be a spiritualgirl, the after all I don't know
, you may have got me there alittle closer than I have been.
Yeah, oh look, I opened thedoor.
Okay, I opened the door.
(45:39):
I told her.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I'm like I am.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
She will just push you straight through it.
I feel attacked in the bestkind of way.
But yes, thank you so much forcoming on.
I think we all learned a lotfrom you.
It was very enlightening and Ihope anyone who was listening
and watching also took somethingfrom this as well.
And hey, look her up, she said,slide into her.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
DMs.
Not in a creepy way, though,guys, absolutely not, guys that
is a wrap for this episode ofMilk and Honeys.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
What's our tagline?
Vanessa?
You were so good at it lastweek.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
We are serving the tea with all the right
ingredients.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Boom.
Don't forget to subscribe,leave a review, follow us on our
socials and we'll catch you onthe next one.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
See you next time.
Bye guys, bye, I don't knowwhere to look.
Anyway, bye.
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