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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey friends and
welcome to MomTalk Maryland.
I'm your host, claire Duarte,founder of the Columbia Mom, and
this is your spot for realconversations, local love and a
whole lot of community.
Whether you're folding laundry,running errands or hiding in
your car for some peace andquiet, let's dive in, all right.
Well, I'm so excited that todayI have with us Laura, owner of
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Rebalance Health and Wellness,and if you've been following
along my journey, you know thatI've been talking all about my
thyroid journey, how I've gottento know Laura, your business,
but I'm so excited to have youhere with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thank you so much for
having me.
I'm so excited to be here.
I just love you.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I know we're just
already having too much fun, I
think.
But actually this is so funnybecause it's actually a great
time, because yesterday was myfollow-up with you and so to
kind of like go forwards andbackwards.
Right, if you're tuning in andthis is your first time hearing
Laura and hearing Rebalance, tokind of give you a little bit of
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backstory, well, I'll share myside and then you, and then I
want you to kind of tell us alittle bit more in depth about
your business too Totally.
But, um, I met you when youfirst reached out to us to kind
of do some marketing and then,um, that was kind of my first
introduction to getting to knowyour company and it was talking
all about.
And first my first thought waswhen I didn't know anything
about hormone therapy and thingslike that, and my first thought
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was like, oh, is this going tobe right for my audience?
Blah, blah, blah, cause againmy brain went like, um,
menopause, right, you know.
And so I was like, oh, I don'tknow, like you know, um, but
then as I got to know thebusiness, more I was like wait,
and then the more that I wasfilming with you, it was like,
oh, my God, I need to be aclient, I want to be a client.
And then when that ended, likewe jumped right into essentially
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assessment, testing, um, andthe recent months of like me
doing the elimination diet tofinding out my going through the
full panel test results.
So that fast forwards toyesterday's followup meeting was
essentially one month from thetest results, from my test
results where, long story short,found out that I have
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Hashimoto's hypothyroidism.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Is that correct?
So your thyroid numbers arestill normal, but you have
antibodies to your own thyroid,so it's an autoimmune thyroid
condition called Hashimoto's.
But really we're catching itearly and so you're able to do
the lifestyle modifications thatyou need to do in order to kind
of hopefully keep it at bay andkeep you off medication.
So your thyroid markers andyour numbers are normal.
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So your thyroid stimulatinghormone, your free T4 and your
free T3 are all still normal,but you are having autoimmunity
to your thyroid by the thyroidperoxidase antibodies.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And again, this is
where, like, I have no medical
background and like, but thethyroid, remind me, cause again,
you're the professional, youknow this stuff like a second
language.
Wasn't the thyroid still likehigh or elevated?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So your thyroid
numbers were still within normal
range.
Okay, your TPO, or thyroidperoxidase, was 150.
And that is the marker ofHashimoto's and autoimmunity.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Oh, okay, okay, Does
that make sense?
Sure, you know that makes sense, like, I suppose, when you're
putting things more like on ascale or something.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Exactly, yeah, and so
what can happen, though, is
when you have these autoimmunemarkers, if you don't catch it
early, then it starts to impactthe other things, so the brain
signaling to your thyroid tomake the thyroid hormone and so
any of those like your brainhormone it's called thyroid
stimulating hormone.
It comes from your pituitary,but that can increase, and then
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you may have decreased levels ofyour t4 and t3, and t3 is your
active thyroid hormone reallyimpacts your metabolism and so
many other body functions yeahum.
So, yes, there is opportunityfor it to move that way, but
that's why it's really important, especially in the autoimmune
conditions, to kind of catch itearly and then work on the
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lifestyle modifications diet,exercise, stress management
making sure that you're gettingthe nutrients you need.
Um, there's specific nutrientsthat are really beneficial for
your thyroid.
Um, really like selenium is abig one.
So you're taking a multivitaminthat has a hundred micrograms
of selenium in it, which isreally important for your
thyroid.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah.
So, and to catch um people uptoo, so to kind of give you
again another layer of mypersonal story, um, you know, I
think what's interesting withpeople that you know, now that
I've been kind of like in thestarting to kind of get into
this world, do a little bit ofmy own research and everything
that you've told me, I feel likea lot of people that have some
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thyroid conditions sounds likefor the majority of them, they
feel like crap when they kind ofget to this point and they're
seeking medical attention,things like that.
And that wasn't exactly mystory.
And because I think I whetherit was just my own health, the
situation, the certain markersthat I had, because when I came
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to you I actually I actually wasfeeling pretty good, yeah, and
I do think some of themedications that I was taking
were definitely masking somethings to a degree.
But when I look back, whatapproximately two years ago,
prior to you know, takingsemaglutide, and because I lost
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like not in a short period oftime, like over like a year and
a half, like I said, I lost like30, 40 pounds, yeah, so I think
the weight loss definitelyimpacted many areas of my health
.
For sure, absolutely, even if Istarted taking it for initially
just vanity reasons.
But I, when I think back tothat summer, prior to starting
to take it, I'm like, and I'mremembering how I felt, I'm like
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those are definitely thetrademark thyroid symptoms, for
sure.
Um, again, I didn't really knowany different and I'm like
putting all this weight and, um,I just I just wanted to lose
weight.
I didn't think about anythingCause you know, again the brain
fog, I'm putting all this weightand I just I just wanted to
lose weight.
I didn't think about anything,cause you know, again the brain
fog.
I'm just like, well, I have atwo year old or a three year old
, so I was just like that's justlife.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You know what I mean,
and it's like life is stressful
and you're tired and we'retired and you know, um, and
hashtag women's health I'mlaughing but I'm not but um, so,
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so, anyway, so fast, yeah, sofast forward to now, so, as I'm
getting to know you what that'swhat made me be like oh, I
should really be a client,because I was like the reality
is like I feel pretty decent,but I was kind of thinking back
to how I had been feeling at onepoint and I was like I also
have like no idea, like what'sunder the hood, and I was like I
should probably have a reallybetter idea of what that looks
like for me, cause now that I'm,like, you know, mid thirties
and um, and I have had some ofthose similar markers, I'd be
really interested to know whatwhat a blood panel for me right
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now looks like, and um, so,anyway, so, so, yeah, about a
month ago we got the testresults back and you kind of
walked me through you know allthe different levels, all the
different markers, and you knowthat's like a two hour
appointment, which, becauseshe's so thorough and so helpful
.
So we're not going to gothrough all that today, though I
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could probably use therefresher course Totally.
But one question that I feellike that comes up to me
sometimes when I've been tellingpeople you know, and as I've
been sharing my journey andtalking about, obviously you
know my new diagnosis, but thenthe supplements things are
taking, people are often askingme like, oh, are you on thyroid
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medication, are you on Synthroid?
And when I tell them no, andI'm like my explanation is like,
well, again, this is kind ofcoming from the education that
you've given me is like, well,the goal right now is to heal my
gut.
You know it's like, yes, I thinklike the, the thyroid
medication will can help thethyroid levels, but you know we
still need to heal the gut andthat acts as the body's fighting
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response and with an autoimmuneissue, like it's even more
compromised right now.
So you know, we're kind oftrying to rebuild from repair or
ruins maybe, um, and so youknow.
So that's why I like thatyou're, you're integrative, not
like strictly one side or theother, meaning that, like you
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believe in the holisticprinciples and will integrate
the medical interventions whennecessary and when it needs to
complement one another.
Right, so, um, so yes, I am on,I'm on a whole host of
wonderful supplement.
This is there's at least threethings in here, at minimum.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Um, but it's all
personalized for you.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's right.
Well, this isn't like anInstagram.
No, this is not um, no, but um,but so anyway.
So so I wanted you to answerthat question about like you
know, as people ask me like,well, why aren't you on like?
You need to be on Synthroid,you need to like, be on like you
know.
Can you help provide some kindof like, more education.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, I think a big
piece of this is every person is
an individual, so every planthat we create is individualized
for you.
Um, so for you, your thyroidnumbers are still fine, and so
we need to do the other thingsto work on your thyroid.
We need to fix your gut, weneed to reduce inflammation, we
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need to make sure that your dietis in check, because, I mean, I
firmly believe that food ismedicine, so, like dairy and
gluten tend to be veryinflammatory, especially in the
autoimmune condition group, andum, and so changing those things
and taking the nutrients thatare really beneficial for your
thyroid, for you, is where we'regoing right now.
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Now I have plenty of otherpatients that I'll start with
the lifestyle things, and,depending on their levels and
how they're feeling and whattheir symptoms are like, we
prescribe thyroid medication.
The thing about Synthroid,though and I hear Synthroid all
the time we do use Synthroid inour practice, but Synthroid only
gives you T4 and just a littlebit of physiology.
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T4 is not even your activethyroid hormone, it's actually
T3.
So when you give T4, it stillhas to convert into T3, your
active thyroid hormone.
So it depends on what yourproblem is.
Synthroid can help fix some ofthe problems.
But we also utilize T3, so wemight use something called
Cytomel or we might compound T3and T4 together.
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But again, it's all based oneach individual's lab results,
what they're experiencingsymptom-wise and kind of a whole
host of factors.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
Well, and here's the realitytoo is like we'll have these
conversations and I'm like, yes,that makes sense, but again,
I'm coming from a place of Idon't have the medical
background.
A million percent, so for me tothen regurgitate it alone for
myself.
Yeah, and for other people andthen for other people and I'm
like what she said.
Now we have this on video so Ican actually refer back to this.
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That was a real reason why Ihad you on, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I just wanted to know
that one specific thing.
And now we can be on and nowyou can turn the camera off.
But I think it's important toknow that, like, especially, our
practice Rebalance Health andWellness, like we are not so
strict in either direction, likewe meet people where they are,
which is really like what I loveabout our practice, like your
life matters, where you are inyour life matters, and so we
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kind of have to come up with aplan that works for you, your
lifestyle and what your beliefsare.
I mean, dr Zimmerman and Istill practice traditional
medicine as well.
I mean I do anesthesia two daysa week and he's a critical care
physician, so like he does thathalf time.
And then we do functionalmedicine, hormone replacement
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therapy, gut health, thyroidhealth the other 50% of the time
, and so we have a differentbreadth like knowledge base and
experience base where like, yes,like we believe in the natural
things but we also believe inmedicine, and so we kind of mold
that together and I thinkthat's really unique and really
important.
And, again, personalizedmedicine is is not what's being
done everywhere, right, and soyou know, like we want people to
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feel good in their lives and sothat's why everything is based
on what you are experiencing andwhat your lab results show.
Are experiencing and what yourlab results show, um, and kind
of like.
We believe what people say.
Like women's health is soimportant to me.
I mean, the entire reason wecreated this practice is because
I was suffering and I could notget help and I'm in the medical
system, right, right, and so,um, when I talk to people,
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they're like you have suchconviction about what you're
doing and I'm like, well,because I believe it, because it
literally changed my life and Ipractice what I preach.
So like something else you'llfind is Darren and I do
everything that we have ourpatients do.
Like I'm not just like do this,this and this, but like I'm not
going to do that, like that'stoo hard, like we live this
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lifestyle and like we have seenthe benefits in ourselves and in
our family.
And I mean I shared with youthat like and like we have seen
the benefits in ourselves and inour family, and I mean I shared
with you that like I'm doing alot of the functional medicine
pieces on my five year old, yeah, right.
So like there's benefits foreveryone in living right, this
way.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I know, and that's
definitely what I'm excited for
us to talk about a little bittoday too, what I'm excited for
us to talk about a little bittoday too.
But I also wanted to add, like,what I think has been really
interesting for me too aboutbeing this journey is that cause
.
Again, we were, we obviouslywere talking about this
yesterday during our followup,which I also could have just
recorded, might as well shouldhave.
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But you know, I, I for me, whatI'm realizing it, and I'm sure
this is the case for a lot ofpeople it's like I feel like, as
of right now again, kind of onemonth in from test results,
right, I feel like I'm feelingworse before I'm going to feel
better.
Sure, kind of Like in a goodway, right, like because, you
know once and I would havestarted the elimination diet,
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say, earlier, but it was aroundspring break time, so I could
have started it probably rightwhen you gave me the initial
test, but again, timing, soanyway, so I started the
elimination diet.
It was like a little bit oflike okay, now my body is just
detoxing off of inflammatorytriggers and things like that,
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and, as you know, my eliminationwasn't 100% squeaky, clean,
perfect.
So obviously, when you there'sstill elements of a little bit
of dairy here or there, you knowI know that that doesn't make
the playing field super even atthat point.
And then you add in when Istarted the introduction of the
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supplements and then and the newitems, um, so my body's trying
to adjusting to now taking thoseto now being approximately like
four, five-ish weeks into thesupplements.
Now the elimination is nowtechnically over, but I, you
know, I've been trying to stillkind of, you know, uh, live
dairy free and mostly glutenfree, kind of moving in that
direction.
And one of the things I wastelling you you're like, how are
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you feeling?
I was like mostly good, youknow, I mean, ironically, I look
back, I'm like man, I feel likeI definitely felt better prior
to like, starting all of this,like ironically, you know like,
but that's not, I know that'snot a reason to go back based on
like what I know, like what Iknow now.
You know like, but that's not,I know that's not a reason to go
back based on like what I know,like what I know now.
You know now that I know likewhat actually I was working with
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.
But I'm, you know, like.
So I was telling you today like,oh, I feel like you know, kind
of tired and a little sluggish,but I know that, like you know,
but that, but that's the perfectreason.
So we're, we're tweaking alittle bit of things right, like
, instead of taking themagnesium in the morning, I take
that at night.
You know what I mean and I hopelike that starts to help.
And I have been pretty goodabout keeping the dairy, like
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you know, out of my diet.
I had like a little like a fewbites like Sunday night.
Oh my God, I felt so bloated.
Yesterday afternoon I think Iagain took the pancreatic enzyme
I don't think it wasdramatically later after my
lunch because I was, I think Iwas still biting, but then again
I felt like so bloated, take itbefore like take it before you
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take your first bite of food.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Okay I think sorry
yeah this is my medical advice,
only for claire disclaimer yeah,um, yeah, because the bloating
was like and this is just again.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's kind of just
like the little troubleshooting
that I'm trying to figure outBecause I'm like I'm bloating so
bad.
Again.
Dairy was you know a little bitstill in my system from you
know even a few bites, andthings like that.
So it's, you know, it'sinteresting because I was like,
oh, like I'm frustrated, feelinglike I feel like I am like I'm
doing all these supplements andI am like making all these
really healthy choices and like,admittedly, I was feeling like
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you know, frustrated, I feellike tired and bloated and while
I'm walking the walk and tryingto do the right things, but I
guess that's kind of, that'skind of life, that's kind of
health when we're navigatingthese pieces.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's a little sticky.
I actually very rarely hearlike your experience.
To be honest, like most of thetime when people are doing their
elimination diet, pretty muchafter day seven, like I get
messages like what is this magic?
Like why do I feel so energized?
Like why do I feel so much?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
well, and I did feel
pretty good, yeah, yeah, like
when, when all of those thingsare kind of eliminated, like
yeah, like I felt pretty, prettydarn good Right, you know what
I?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
mean.
So I think some of it is.
It takes time.
So this is why we honestly workwith most of our patients in a
program situation is becausethere's a lot going on, so we
don't want to just throw everysingle thing at you at once.
We kind of want to like work onone thing at a time.
Your gut takes several monthsto heal.
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Think about how long it tookyou to get out of balance, um,
and so, I think, also havingrealistic expectations too.
I'm not saying for you, I justmean in general like like
knowing that, like what you'vebeen doing to your body and all
the things that you've beenexposed to, this has been
happening forever, right.
And so then it's like OK, we'reone month in and I remind
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patients to like let's thinkabout the things that are better
and that are different.
And I think because it's easyto be like, well, I don't feel
immediately better.
I have never claimed that thisis going to be a thing that like
tomorrow and I tell people thatall the time like tomorrow
you're not going to feel likeyou're on top of the world, like
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this takes some time and ittakes effort on your part, and
that's the thing like I can giveyou the information but and
educate you, because I thinkknowledge is power, I think
knowing what's going on insideof your body is amazing, yeah,
but then what you do with it isultimately up to you too, right,
and so we are still working.
We have things to tweak, um,we're changing things all the
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time, right, so it's findingwhat works for you, which, again
, is like that personalizedpiece, like there's not a plan
that's for every single person.
Yeah, the plan is like, okay,the initial plan like is working
with X, y and Z, but it's, youknow, you're still suffering
with some low energy and somebloating, and so now we need to
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address what's going on thereand then we'll change and pivot
to what you need.
Does that make sense?
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And and I mean you
already know this, but I was
like by my frustration is morewith myself, not like, oh, why
isn't this working right now?
And it's also I mean, you getthis to like being a mom and a
business owner like we.
Just I just want my energy.
I just want the energy to focusand do do all the things.
Only yesterday afternoon I waslike oh so sluggish and I I hate
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that feeling and it's not thatI'm chasing that I and I know
and that's why I'm doing all ofthis and I'm committing to all
of this, because I don't justwant the overnight success and
it's not going to be anovernight success.
I know it's going to take timeand things like that, but again
the reality is like.
Again, being moms and businessowners is like well, I need the
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focus right now, but I need thatenergy like yesterday and.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I need it in this one
hour window, and so why isn't
it here?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Right, why isn't it
here?
I was like I ordered this and Idon't.
I don't, I don't see it here.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It didn't show up on
my menu today, it did not.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
It did not.
Um, the yeah that my Amazon uhdelivery was laid off for that
one.
So, um, but I mean, that's justbeen an interesting part of the
journey for me.
But I know that that healingtakes time, but that's kind of
what.
Now I'm like starting to likenerd out a little bit.
I'm like, oh, so now we'regoing to do another round of
tests in like a week, and so nowI'm kind of curious.
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I'm like, oh, some markers havegot to be a little bit better,
Hopefully.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah.
So we kind of like we checkcertain things at certain points
and we're getting ready tocheck your hormones again.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, um, which will
be good, and then we'll address
from there yeah what the nextstep is, and so we're always
changing and always modifying,for, like, what you need and
what patients need, and right,it's great, I know, and um, I
mean, like I shared with myaudience that you know, I
recently had like my IED removedand um, you know, in an effort
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to kind of be more natural andagain address kind of the
hormone issues at play, and Ifinally did get my first period
last week, which was brutalwhich I knew.
I kind of knew it would be.
You know everyone, again,everyone's different, and you
would kind of warn me about that.
I mean, I kind of knew that tobe expected, but I was like
getting it removed and gettingyour fur from back anyways would
be challenging, just let aloneeverything else we were doing.
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So I'm not surprised, glad thatwe're through that.
But I know now the next piecethat you had mentioned is like
um, eventually, you know,introducing progesterone, right,
but that's where we're going totest those markers first, to
kind of see where we're at,because I was having an
interesting conversation withsome of the other day too.
They were like well, I knowthat like progesterone, estrogen
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and testosterone are all, likeyou know, linked to like
fertility, but like why do wekind of still need that now?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So I want to know if
you could speak to that as well.
Yes, oh my gosh, I feel like Icould talk about this for seven
hours but I'll keep it as briefas possible.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I know Right.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, guys, this is
an all day podcast.
Live streaming yes, Um, yeah, soI feel like people think of
these, their sex hormones.
So for women, they're made inthe ovaries testosterone,
estrogen and progesterone andeveryone thinks they're kind of
just like they stay here in yoursex organs.
They're there for fertility,and this is kind of the problem
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with medicine too is like a lotof like like women's health is
really focused on gettingpregnant and being pregnant, and
then after that, like there'sno, there's been like such
limited amount of money that hasgone into research for
perimenopause, menopauseresearch, all these things.
Okay, so I digress.
But, um, but they don't juststay in your sex organs.
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There are hormone receptorsliterally all over your entire
body.
So, for example, like I havepatients ask me all the time
like, if I start hormonereplacement therapy, is this
like, do I have to be on itforever?
And I'm like, well, I wouldlike to like change people's
perspective because you shouldwant to be on it when you hear
what I have to say about it.
Like I will be on hormonesforever, and the reason for that
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is in perimenopause, yourhormones kind of go haywire.
Your estrogen fluctuates a ton.
Your progesterone, once you hityour mid thirties, starts to
steadily decline.
Your ovaries tend to notproduce as much testosterone, so
that starts to steadily declineand then, once you reach
menopause, it's pretty much yourovaries are petering out and
you're not producing any ofthose hormones.
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Yeah, and what happens isestrogen is so important for so
many things.
The number one killer in ourcountry is cardiovascular
disease.
Still, when you lose yourestrogen, it basically makes
your blood vessels super stiff.
It increases your risk forcardiovascular disease.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Oh, I didn't know
that your estrogen helps to
maintain bone density.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So once you lose your
estrogen, your bone density
starts to decrease and if youthink about hip fractures,
there's a 30% mortality inpatients that have a hip
fracture that you can helpprevent by just replacing
estrogen.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, it's so funny
because like yeah, you hear,
especially for women, like oh,you need bone density, but like
never really has it talked aboutthat connection there.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
It's huge and it's
well-studied.
This isn't just like made-upscience.
This is like data that has beenproven.
We talked about the risk ofAlzheimer's disease and
cognitive dysfunction.
It's huge, and women are atgreater risk of these things.
We talked about brain fog.
That's a loss of estrogen.
A lot of times like so.
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Long term, there's a reductionin different kinds of cancers,
for example, colon cancer, ifyou maintain your hormones.
Um, progesterone.
Progesterone is amazing.
It's gabinergic, which meansit's kind of like your
anti-anxiety hormone.
It's like nature's volume um andso it helps you sleep and it
helps with mood stability.
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Estrogen also helps with moodstability.
Um, estrogen helps with yourmetabolism.
Like hormones are amazing.
Testosterone I mean I could.
Testosterone is like mypersonal favorite hormone.
Um, it's not FDA approved inwomen, which is like a total
crock of crap.
Women need testosterone as well.
We make 10 times moretestosterone than we do estrogen
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, but no one talks about it.
It is not just a male hormone.
Testosterone is important forso many things.
It's important forcardiovascular function, it's
also important for bone health,it's important for mood
stability.
Um, I think about it as likeour CEO, hormones.
So it's like, yeah, get up andgo.
It's your drive, it's yourmotivation, it helps with muscle
mass, like metabolism.
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Again, these are just likethings I can spout off in one
second, like there are so manyreasons that women should make
sure that their hormones are onebalanced and two, that they
don't just lose their hormones,because the long-term
implications of these things arereally catastrophic.
Yeah, you lose your brain.
I mean I was just I posted avideo about, um how divorce
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rates tend to really likeincrease in women's forties and
sixties and like there's gottabe a correlation with hormone
imbalance.
Like I mean I know when I'mimbalanced, like anxiety,
depression.
Like you have women that come tome and they're like gosh, I
just have this like new onsetanxiety, this new onset
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depression that I've never hadbefore.
Like have these weirdpalpitations.
I like wake myself up in themiddle of the night.
So hormones are great forsymptom management as well, like
the hot flashes, the nightsweats and all the other
symptoms that you think aboutwith it.
But honestly, the benefits ofthe long-term use of hormones
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and making sure that you don'tjust decline hormonally are
really important and they're nottalked about enough.
And I also was talking theother day about, like we talk a
lot about the risks of hormonereplacement therapy.
There's still a lot of fear fromthis one study in 2002 from the
Women's Health Initiative, thatone.
The study was designed poorlyand the results were translated
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incredibly poorly, and so womenand physicians alike were
terrified of hormones.
So they stopped teaching inmedical schools and advanced
practice schools, and that's whypeople have such a hard time
finding providers that areactually able to one understand
the hormones, because they arecomplicated, take the time to do
it and also to know what toprescribe and how to prescribe
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hormones.
So, um, there's a lot of nuanceto it, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well, and I feel like
maybe also in this, this, maybe
this is my, my bias, or like myassumption or malassumption,
you know, like when I probably,well, I think, when I heard,
maybe in younger years, when Iheard we hear hormone
replacement theory, I thinkprobably initially I think of,
like you know, genderreassignment or as it relates to
, like, those populations, or,like I said, now that I've
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gotten older, like thinkingabout, like you know, menopause
you know, so, yeah, I thinkthere is a lot of misinformation
, uh mal, again mal assumptionsand things like that and, again,
clearly nowhere near enougheducation, um uh, for women's
health, just in general amillion percent, it's yeah it's
horrible, okay random.
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where's your pellet?
Am I allowed to ask?
Yeah, it's in my glute.
Is it right here, mm-hmm?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
On that side or the
other side.
Well, I switch, you switchsides.
Oh yeah so we're both like,yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
So she put a
testosterone pellet in me, yeah,
which is funny, because, you'reright, it is like it does feel
like a little grain of rice.
Yeah, right, yeah.
And because someone asked meabout that too and I was like,
yeah, I have a testosterone pill.
Have you ever heard of it?
I like show and I was like I'llshow it to you.
It's like a little, yeah, Ihike my short up and show it.
It's not sexual at all, butanyway, it's just like right
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there, yeah, but as, as opposedto like the orals or the creams
or anything like that, um, andit's one of the things like have
I noticed a difference?
I mean, it's hard cause.
You can't notice one impactwhen I'm also taking all the
you're doing a bunch of it,right, but, um, but yeah.
So I mean, that's another kindof factor in the equation, um.
(29:22):
But I wanted to jump back to alittle bit of the conversation
that we had started when we weretalking about our kids and
again, we should probably do awhole other podcast on that
specifically, which I think youknow, because we both talked
about our fair little children.
Yeah, they're so sweet and socrazy.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
They're fair little
babies.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I know, and I really
do think we should do like a
whole thing on just that.
But you know, starting thisjourney for it keeps me thinking
more along the lines of likeyou know, we've been starting to
buy more like organic foods andmore gluten-free things and I'm
wondering I'm like huh, Iwonder how this will affect my
children.
You know, because I haven't yetrun full panels on them, or
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particularly like my son, butyou recently did and you've
already been seeing some results.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, Amazing results
, Not just like I could say, oh
my gosh, what I'm doing isworking, you know whatever.
But I mean I was telling you wehad a parent teacher conference
yesterday and my little guy isfive and he has like severe ADHD
, like major impulsivityproblems.
Um, he is like sweet as pie.
Actually, his teacher umreferred to him as a golden
(30:26):
retriever because he's like gotso much energy, Um, and he's so
sweet, but he like reallystruggles, like keeping his body
to himself and like notinterrupting, and like at home
he literally like cannot sitdown and he's up at 6 AM and
he's ready to go until heliterally passes out.
Um, and things had kind of beengetting a lot worse and so, um,
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we sent some of our functionaltesting on him and he ended up
having a bunch of overgrowth inhis gut.
And you know me, I'm like verypassionate about gut health.
Um, because I think it's kind ofroot cause for a lot of
different things.
If you have poor gut health,you're not able to make your
neurotransmitters, so your moodstability suffers.
Um, if you don't have goodhealth, you're not able to make
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your neurotransmitters, so yourmood stability suffers.
If you don't have good health,you're not able to have the
immune function that you should,because 70% of your immune
system is housed in your gut.
When we're talking aboutneurotransmitters, serotonin and
dopamine are made in your gut,and the data says anywhere from
70 to 90%.
It's significant.
So if you're not even able tomake those neurotransmitters,
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you're not able to get them upto your brain and your brain's
not able to utilize them.
And so he had significantovergrowth there.
And then he had some nutrientdeficiencies.
He had low vitamin.
D, he had low ferritin which isyour iron stores, probably from
poor gut health.
So we actually are doing a lotof supplementation with him and
it's been about six weeks andhe's like showing major
improvements.
We took out food dyes, which,you know, some people really
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like are like do food dyesactually matter?
And in some kids it does.
Some kids don't have theability to break them down and
so they accumulate and it kindof makes them go nuts.
Yeah, um, we took out a lot oflike.
We added a lot of organic food.
We're trying to make sure that,you know, stabilizing blood
sugar with protein added to hissnacks.
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We're doing all sorts of stufffor the little guy and he's
doing really well.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
So awesome yeah.
Um, I know, and again, we could, we can and we will do a whole
podcast probably on thatspecifically, cause I was like.
you know, I feel like there's somany challenges when it comes
to food and kids and like,because they like what they like
.
I mean, we do too, you know.
But you know as a parent thatcan be hard to navigate, not
only just getting them to eatbalanced, but obviously when
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you're trying to introducedifferent things that we know
are like, quote unquote, goodfor them.
Yeah, especially when it's veryneeds based at that time.
But and have you guys beennoticing the effect, sort of at
home in addition to school?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I would say, yes,
probably a little bit less so,
because I mean he's a normal kid, so he like saves all of his
like good behaviors where he'sat school and then you know, he
feels secure at home, so he kindof lets loose a little bit.
But yes, I definitely see adifference for sure, um, on the
soccer field, like in themornings, yeah, when he goes to
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sleep, like he's.
He's just a kind, sweet littleboy and I just want to support
him the best way I know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I know and it will,
and it just well, these
conversations are always sointeresting to me because they
kind of like they get my wheelsturning when I think about, like
my own son, like my daughter is, you know, very different, you
know very independent, and I'veobviously talked about my son on
here too and, you know,definitely think, you know, a
peek at his GI system could bereally beneficial for us, along
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with the other zillion hosts ofthings.
But I mean again, like, whileI'm making these shifts for
myself, I'm like, well, againmight as well start, like you
know, buying organic for thehouse and kind of slowly you
know, not that I'm mandatingeverybody my house be
gluten-free, kind of thing butkind of slowly going that way
with some different products andthings like that.
(34:02):
Um, and I think that's kind oflike the point that you make too
, it's you don't need to likenecessarily have to clean house
overnight and make the product,switch on everything and I've
really cause.
Even that for me is likeoverwhelming, but I'm like, okay
, as I move along.
Like you know, slowly makingsome sort of certain swaps can
be helpful.
You know not, you know it'slike, uh, even things like you
(34:26):
know, some laundry detergents,deodorant I was telling you
about, but I was like I have,all you know, a bunch of product
.
I'm not going to waste what Icurrently have, but I'll slowly
kind of maybe move in thatdirection and just see, and
that's I advocate for that too.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I'm like look like, I
don't want you to waste your
money, but here are some optionsthat like are cleaner, that
have less endocrine disruptionand that you can switch to and
they're not even any more money.
That's the thing.
But it's hard to find what'sactually like safe and a good
alternative versus like.
I mean, for example, likepeople go to tell me all the
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time they're like yeah, I uselike Tide, free and clear.
I'm like it's not really freeand clear, literally what I said
to you verbatim.
That's funny, because likepeople say it all the time
though it's like yeah.
Cause you don't know, like youdon't know what you don't know,
right, and so, um, and then tokind of like go back to what you
were saying about, like makingchanges for the family Cause we
were talking about this too LikeI think, when you're making
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changes for yourself, it canonly benefit your kids, even if
you don't have the fancy testingto know what's going on with
them.
Like adding in more fruits andvegetables and fiber and whole
foods is literally only going tobenefit them.
There will be no downside to it, right, um?
And yes, it's so difficult whenyou have picky kids.
Some of it, for me, is justkeeping the stuff out of the
(35:42):
house if it's not there theydon't ask for it, right?
do you know what I mean?
Yeah, um, and I've seen a lotof tricks that I've used, like
while you're cooking dinner,like I just put, we actually we
hold this like huge container ofveggies.
We like have peeled wholecarrots.
My kids love the rainbowcarrots yeah carrots and peppers
and cucumbers and I just put iton the table and they're
allowed to like go eat yeah, asmany veggies as they want and
(36:05):
like they're usually hungryenough that they want to eat it
yes um, but it's just like agood idea to like little things
like that it makes.
It makes a difference, because Iwas actually reading something
the other day.
It was like less than 50 ofchildren have one fruit or
vegetable a day not surprisedright, but like that's it's sad.
It's sad and like the benefitsof the, the fruits and veggies,
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the micronutrients, thephytonutrients, the fiber, the
different vitamins, like they'reamazing.
I know your body needs it.
It's, I mean, like I.
You know my opinion on food ismedicine.
Yeah, did I?
Did you know?
I think food is, did you know?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
by the way, your your
sign off forever.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I think food is
medicine Did you know, by the
way, your sign off forever.
Food is medicine.
Yeah, do you have a tattoo ofthat, of that?
Yeah, yeah, on my inner lip.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
No, I don't, it can
be your next one, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Right or like, have
it like in between your fingers
or something like that, or yourknuckles, yes.
Wait, food is medicine, fim,yeah, I'd have to explain that
to a lot of people, thoughthat'd be great.
You have like two alternatemeetings meetings maybe.
Well, thank you so much, laura,for coming on here today.
Um, it's, you've been sohelpful, and not only just
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continuing to educate me, but,as you're guiding me along this
path, and I know that we arecontinuing to shed so much light
to so many other moms and women, because I get questions all
the time and I know that youcontinue to too, and I'm just so
glad that we're kind of get tolike do this together, to kind
of keep like showcasing what youdo and then like like kind of
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me walking through it right now.
So, thank you and thank you forbeing on here today.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh, thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
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