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October 1, 2025 54 mins

Less than 24 hours after President Russell M. Nelson passed away, a gunman opened fire on a Latter-day Saint congregation in Michigan. We're experiencing two very different types of mourning, and holding it all feels really raw. We talk about how President Nelson's message of peacemaking can apply on a week like this, where Mormonism fits into the Christian Right, and most happily the legacy President Nelson will leave behind.

Read more of McKay's writing in The Atlantic as well as on his new Substack.




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