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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well. In the red corner the City of Adelaide boldly
claiming it has more parking than ever before. In the
blue corner, Adelade's city traders, who say the council has
a war on cars, with several proposed developments slashing parking spaces.
So what is the situation? Joining me now is the
Deputy Lord Mayor Phil Martin. Phil, Good morning to you,
Good morning, King Graham.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm very well, thanks, So what is the situation with
car parking spaces? Are there more than there have been
in the past?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, there are in fact. Indeed, listening to you talking
about a war on cars, I'm left to wonder whether
in fact we've actually had a war on truth. The
number of car spaces in the City of Adelaide have
increased substantially over the years. In fact, over the last
quarter century, it's just been going up and up. Currently
(00:49):
we have of the order of nineteen nineteen of street parks,
and that compares to a number two years ago that
was about two hundred fewer. But we also have, of
course parking offstreet and off street parking is provided by
(01:09):
both the City of Adelaide and commercial car parks is
also substantial twenty eight cars and when you have put
those two numbers together, you end up with something around
forty five forty seven car spaces. And then on top
of that we have parking that's provided associates associated with
commercial developments of the city, and that lists even further
(01:32):
up to around fifty three thousand spaces. We actually have
the highest rate of car parking available to workers in
the country, none twenty five car spaces per worker available
every day in the City of Adelaide.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So, Deputy Lord Mayor, why has it then that so
many people feel like the city councilor's anti cars. They
want to get cars off the street, they want people
to use public transport, and you know they want more
green space. You know, we seem to be an odds here.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, yes, I think there's a lot of misinformation around Graham.
I don't know where it comes from, but it's disappointing
because the truth of the matter, and we are dealing
with truth rather than fear and anxiety. The truth is
there is a growing number of car parking spaces available
at the city on street and of street, and it's
(02:25):
part of a pattern that's been going on for twenty
five years.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So what is the long term plan. I know greening
the city is wonderful and it would be great for
people to use more public transporter to be good for
the climate, good for all sorts of things. Is the
long term plan to reduce the number of car parks?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, it's not, actually, Graham, certainly, We've got proposals for
a number of streets in the city which we want
to upgrade, and we are talking to our right players
at stakeholders about what kind of design they'd like to
see and testing whether or not they're prepared to lose
car parking spaces in return for greater amenity. That's a discussion.
(03:09):
Nothing has happened at all. But even if all of
the plans on the table were enacted, we would still
have more car parking spaces in the City of Adelaide
than we had last year. So no, that is not
the strategy of the city. But it is a strategy
of the city to encourage people to use public transport,
(03:31):
to encourage people to use alternative forms of transport like eastcoots,
which are caught on in the City of Adelaide, bicycles,
other forms of transport including Shanks's ponies. We used to
call it walking the length of the city.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
There are plans though out there to reduce the number
of parking places on Hot Street, O'Connell Street, and Goudia
Street over the next year or two.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, there are plans for that. We have a series
of proposals for community consultation, including on Hunt Street and
O'Connell Street. Those consultations, I think have concluded. The reports
are due to come to council shortly, and if those
reports show that there is overwhelming opposition to any of
(04:21):
the proposal, then the elective body will have the opportunity
of saying yes, we'll do it, so we won't do it,
or we might do it this way instead. And there
are lots of options. Of course, one of the options
that's always open to council, and I'm talking about the
elected body and dressing a personal community. It's always open
(04:41):
to councils say no, we don't want to do that,
we want to leave parking as it is. We might
upgrade the public realm, make sure that we've got great
foot paths and we've got great street furniture. Maybe we'll
leave the parking as it is. That's an option that's
open to Council. So when those reports come back, discussion.
(05:02):
But right at this moment, car parking in the city
of Adelaide is looking something like a car park in
the oasis.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Phil Martin always great to chat. That's the Deputy Lord
Mayor of Adelaide, Phil Martin, on the amount of parking.
How do you see it? Do you find there's always
plenty of spots when you drive into the city. I'd
like to know your feelings on it, or, as the
Deputy Lord Mayor said, you know, per capita, we have
more parking spaces in our city than any other city
(05:32):
in Australia. Is it just an illusion than that we
seem to be losing parkings places? Well, somebody who questions
the number of spots we've got, not the numerical number,
but the fact that it's not easy to find them
is Hot Street Ideal Shoe repair owner Richard Libreletto, who
joins Mina. Richard, good morning to you, Good morning, how
are you look well? Thanks? Now you heard the Deputy
(05:53):
Lord mayor. You've been feeling pretty strongly about that. What
you're feeling regarding car parking spaces in the city.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The car parking in the city it seems to be
okay at this stage. I mean, the problem is, like
they said, you know, we're getting more car parks, but
we've actually got a lot more residents moving into the city.
Just behind Hart Street along East Terrace, we've got so
many multi story apartment buildings going in and Hurdles Square
(06:20):
and along East Terrace, and that we have a lot
more residents. And yeah, some of them have two cars,
some have one cars. They're not a lot of the
new buildings that are going in, they're not even allocated
provisional parking, you know. So there's a lot of residence
there which are having to park on the streets. And
we've got a lot more workers coming back into the city.
But I mean, our biggest scripe at the moment here
(06:41):
in Hart Street is one of the proposals they put
forward was the fact that we're going to go one
lane each way with parking on each side, parallel parking,
and then during the day they'll be fine, we're parking
each side, but at peach times we only have one
side of the road to park on. So we reduced
from one hundred and fifty to seventy eight I think,
and then then peak times have dropped down to thirty
(07:03):
five car parks in the street, which is fine, but
then how much of that's going to be electric and
how much of that for disability? You know, So it
does it does restrict the amount of parking we're going
to have in the street.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So what impact do you think that will have on
retailers in hot Street? Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Be huge. I mean it's retailers, but it's the service
industries as well. You know, for ourselves. You know, we
cater a lot for in theis so we've got a
lot of people which are elderly or disability and they
really do struggle. You know. Unfortunately Adelaide, as much as
we have ample sparking parking, the most parking spaces in
the country, the fact that Adelaide spoiled seventy five klumbus
(07:42):
along the coastline, we don't have the public transport of
Sydney or Melbourne. You know, you go to Sydney and
is a training every three or several minutes. Melbourne we've
got a fantastic circle circular tram network which is brilliant.
You know, we're never going to get a tram here
in Adelaide, not for many years. And when we don't
have the populations to it. But you know, maybe they
(08:02):
should start introducing electric or hydrogen buses, that is, big buses.
They could be small eighteen seasons, but make them frequent,
every five minutes, running in a continuouslyof then people will
jump on and off quite easily. I mean, it works
well in Melbourne, you know, yeah, I mean maybe hydrogen
buses or electric buses, but smaller ones, even mini buses.
(08:23):
As long as you're standing in the street and you
miss run and you see another one coming down the road,
perfect excellent. You know, it opens up the entire CBD.
People can catch a train into Victoria Square or catch
a train into the train station and jump on a
loop and they can access the whole CBD that way.
But you know, we are spiled out quite a bit
along the coastline. So I mean we've got seven percent
(08:45):
i'd say roughly of our clientele. They're are here in
the city, but everyone health has to come in from
Oh my god, We've got clients from Victor Harbor, from Gaula.
They coming from everywhere. And it's the same with the chemist.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
This idea for reducing the number of parking spaces is
not set in concrete as yet. It's been considered by
the city council. So have you approached the council? Is
there the retail trailers have voiced their opinions.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, of course we have, and I think a final
draft is due towards the end of this month early July,
so I won't come down for consultation again. But you know,
I mean, you have to voice your opinions, but you
sort of sit quietly, nothing will ever happen. So you know,
it's nice to actually voicee your opinion and we've got
the opportunity to do it, which is great.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Richard, great to chat. Thank you for putting your point
of view forward. That's Richard Librala Libra Lato. Sorry about that.
Richard who has the hot Street Ideal shoe repairers, who's
concerned about the removal of more car parking spaces. He says,
hard to believe there were more than eighteen thousand on
street parks in Adelaide. But as you heard the Deputy
(09:52):
Lord Mayor say, that's a fact, eighteen seven hundred and
fifty eight In fact five Double A Mornings with Gray
Goodings
Well. In the red corner the City of Adelaide boldly
claiming it has more parking than ever before. In the
blue corner, Adelade's city traders, who say the council has
a war on cars, with several proposed developments slashing parking spaces.
So what is the situation? Joining me now is the
Deputy Lord Mayor Phil Martin. Phil, Good morning to you,
Good morning, King Graham.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm very well, thanks, So what is the situation with
car parking spaces? Are there more than there have been
in the past?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, there are in fact. Indeed, listening to you talking
about a war on cars, I'm left to wonder whether
in fact we've actually had a war on truth. The
number of car spaces in the City of Adelaide have
increased substantially over the years. In fact, over the last
quarter century, it's just been going up and up. Currently
(00:49):
we have of the order of nineteen nineteen of street parks,
and that compares to a number two years ago that
was about two hundred fewer. But we also have, of
course parking offstreet and off street parking is provided by
(01:09):
both the City of Adelaide and commercial car parks is
also substantial twenty eight cars and when you have put
those two numbers together, you end up with something around
forty five forty seven car spaces. And then on top
of that we have parking that's provided associates associated with
commercial developments of the city, and that lists even further
(01:32):
up to around fifty three thousand spaces. We actually have
the highest rate of car parking available to workers in
the country, none twenty five car spaces per worker available
every day in the City of Adelaide.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So, Deputy Lord Mayor, why has it then that so
many people feel like the city councilor's anti cars. They
want to get cars off the street, they want people
to use public transport, and you know they want more
green space. You know, we seem to be an odds here.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, yes, I think there's a lot of misinformation around Graham.
I don't know where it comes from, but it's disappointing
because the truth of the matter, and we are dealing
with truth rather than fear and anxiety. The truth is
there is a growing number of car parking spaces available
at the city on street and of street, and it's
(02:25):
part of a pattern that's been going on for twenty
five years.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So what is the long term plan. I know greening
the city is wonderful and it would be great for
people to use more public transporter to be good for
the climate, good for all sorts of things. Is the
long term plan to reduce the number of car parks?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, it's not, actually, Graham, certainly, We've got proposals for
a number of streets in the city which we want
to upgrade, and we are talking to our right players
at stakeholders about what kind of design they'd like to
see and testing whether or not they're prepared to lose
car parking spaces in return for greater amenity. That's a discussion.
(03:09):
Nothing has happened at all. But even if all of
the plans on the table were enacted, we would still
have more car parking spaces in the City of Adelaide
than we had last year. So no, that is not
the strategy of the city. But it is a strategy
of the city to encourage people to use public transport,
(03:31):
to encourage people to use alternative forms of transport like eastcoots,
which are caught on in the City of Adelaide, bicycles,
other forms of transport including Shanks's ponies. We used to
call it walking the length of the city.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
There are plans though out there to reduce the number
of parking places on Hot Street, O'Connell Street, and Goudia
Street over the next year or two.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, there are plans for that. We have a series
of proposals for community consultation, including on Hunt Street and
O'Connell Street. Those consultations, I think have concluded. The reports
are due to come to council shortly, and if those
reports show that there is overwhelming opposition to any of
(04:21):
the proposal, then the elective body will have the opportunity
of saying yes, we'll do it, so we won't do it,
or we might do it this way instead. And there
are lots of options. Of course, one of the options
that's always open to council, and I'm talking about the
elected body and dressing a personal community. It's always open
(04:41):
to councils say no, we don't want to do that,
we want to leave parking as it is. We might
upgrade the public realm, make sure that we've got great
foot paths and we've got great street furniture. Maybe we'll
leave the parking as it is. That's an option that's
open to Council. So when those reports come back, discussion.
(05:02):
But right at this moment, car parking in the city
of Adelaide is looking something like a car park in
the oasis.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Phil Martin always great to chat. That's the Deputy Lord
Mayor of Adelaide, Phil Martin, on the amount of parking.
How do you see it? Do you find there's always
plenty of spots when you drive into the city. I'd
like to know your feelings on it, or, as the
Deputy Lord Mayor said, you know, per capita, we have
more parking spaces in our city than any other city
(05:32):
in Australia. Is it just an illusion than that we
seem to be losing parkings places? Well, somebody who questions
the number of spots we've got, not the numerical number,
but the fact that it's not easy to find them
is Hot Street Ideal Shoe repair owner Richard Libreletto, who
joins Mina. Richard, good morning to you, Good morning, how
are you look well? Thanks? Now you heard the Deputy
(05:53):
Lord mayor. You've been feeling pretty strongly about that. What
you're feeling regarding car parking spaces in the city.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The car parking in the city it seems to be
okay at this stage. I mean, the problem is, like
they said, you know, we're getting more car parks, but
we've actually got a lot more residents moving into the city.
Just behind Hart Street along East Terrace, we've got so
many multi story apartment buildings going in and Hurdles Square
(06:20):
and along East Terrace, and that we have a lot
more residents. And yeah, some of them have two cars,
some have one cars. They're not a lot of the
new buildings that are going in, they're not even allocated
provisional parking, you know. So there's a lot of residence
there which are having to park on the streets. And
we've got a lot more workers coming back into the city.
But I mean, our biggest scripe at the moment here
(06:41):
in Hart Street is one of the proposals they put
forward was the fact that we're going to go one
lane each way with parking on each side, parallel parking,
and then during the day they'll be fine, we're parking
each side, but at peach times we only have one
side of the road to park on. So we reduced
from one hundred and fifty to seventy eight I think,
and then then peak times have dropped down to thirty
(07:03):
five car parks in the street, which is fine, but
then how much of that's going to be electric and
how much of that for disability? You know, So it
does it does restrict the amount of parking we're going
to have in the street.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So what impact do you think that will have on
retailers in hot Street? Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Be huge. I mean it's retailers, but it's the service
industries as well. You know, for ourselves. You know, we
cater a lot for in theis so we've got a
lot of people which are elderly or disability and they
really do struggle. You know. Unfortunately Adelaide, as much as
we have ample sparking parking, the most parking spaces in
the country, the fact that Adelaide spoiled seventy five klumbus
(07:42):
along the coastline, we don't have the public transport of
Sydney or Melbourne. You know, you go to Sydney and
is a training every three or several minutes. Melbourne we've
got a fantastic circle circular tram network which is brilliant.
You know, we're never going to get a tram here
in Adelaide, not for many years. And when we don't
have the populations to it. But you know, maybe they
(08:02):
should start introducing electric or hydrogen buses, that is, big buses.
They could be small eighteen seasons, but make them frequent,
every five minutes, running in a continuouslyof then people will
jump on and off quite easily. I mean, it works
well in Melbourne, you know, yeah, I mean maybe hydrogen
buses or electric buses, but smaller ones, even mini buses.
(08:23):
As long as you're standing in the street and you
miss run and you see another one coming down the road,
perfect excellent. You know, it opens up the entire CBD.
People can catch a train into Victoria Square or catch
a train into the train station and jump on a
loop and they can access the whole CBD that way.
But you know, we are spiled out quite a bit
along the coastline. So I mean we've got seven percent
(08:45):
i'd say roughly of our clientele. They're are here in
the city, but everyone health has to come in from
Oh my god, We've got clients from Victor Harbor, from Gaula.
They coming from everywhere. And it's the same with the chemist.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
This idea for reducing the number of parking spaces is
not set in concrete as yet. It's been considered by
the city council. So have you approached the council? Is
there the retail trailers have voiced their opinions.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, of course we have, and I think a final
draft is due towards the end of this month early July,
so I won't come down for consultation again. But you know,
I mean, you have to voice your opinions, but you
sort of sit quietly, nothing will ever happen. So you know,
it's nice to actually voicee your opinion and we've got
the opportunity to do it, which is great.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Richard, great to chat. Thank you for putting your point
of view forward. That's Richard Librala Libra Lato. Sorry about that.
Richard who has the hot Street Ideal shoe repairers, who's
concerned about the removal of more car parking spaces. He says,
hard to believe there were more than eighteen thousand on
street parks in Adelaide. But as you heard the Deputy
(09:52):
Lord Mayor say, that's a fact, eighteen seven hundred and
fifty eight In fact five Double A Mornings with Gray
Goodings
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