Mornings with Graeme Goodings - 11 June 2025 - Mornings with Graeme Goodings

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And good morning. Welcome to this Wednesday, the eleventh day
of June. Hope we find you well. Lots to talk
about today. Love to hear from you on your views
of anything we're talking about, or something that you've seen
happening in your neck of the woods. Love to hear
from the eight double two to three double oh is
the number to ring well. There's a major stink developing
over three major housing development sites around Adelaide. The issue

(00:22):
is they're not connected to the main sewerage system. Human
waste is having to be trucked from the developments. The
state opposition claims there will be housing hold ups with
no money for vital pipelines a three of Labour's four
major housing land sites. We'll speak to the opposition's Miss
Michel Lensick about that a little bit later on. A
Melbourne woman has had the wrong embryo transferred to her

(00:44):
during an IVF procedure at Monash Clinic. It's the second
bungle by the fertility giant exposed this year. Just a
remarkable situation and you can understand the distress that it
would cause the apparents involved. We'll speak about that two
three double oh. It's Men's Health Week, and we'll talk
about pelvic health a little bit later. On Walker Tower,

(01:06):
the State's Commission Assessment Panel is going to hand down
its decision on the highly controversial Walker Tower too. It's
already made a decision, but it will be delivered at
about eleven thirty this morning. There are proponents for proponents against.
This is what Lynn Arnold, the former Premier, had to
say against the Walker.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Tar It's an appropriate on a number of levels, one
of which is the high I think you refer to
it as a huge tombs. Well, it is sort of
Tombstone territory with the two large towers being built there.
It really takes away from the entire amenity of a
very special part of South Australia, and that is that
whole precinct of Parliament across the Row Government House, further

(01:46):
down with Festival Plaza, the Festival Santa Arbor, and then
we go aploss to the Oval and the Cathedral. Suddenly
this is going to be placed in the middle blocking
all of that, casting a shadow valley a very historic building.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's so former Premier Lynn Arnold who was against the
Walker Town. Not surprisingly our current Premier Peter Malanaskas is
fully supporting it. On he spoke with David and Will
this morning.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
First thing is the three story building which was contactually
locked in by everybody by the former state governments. That
is to say, without a change to the contract Walker Corp,
we're going to build a three story building. That three
story building was the entire width of the Parliament House
and the consequence of that would be that if you're

(02:32):
in Festival Plaza you would not have any vista or
view of that northern side of Parliament. The taller building
that we have done the compromise has been a smaller
footprint on the plaza itself, which then leaves more of
that heritage facade of Parliament. And then the height well, yes,
the height obviously brings with it a greater degree of

(02:52):
presence on the plaza, but it also means a lot
more people.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So the decision will be handed down this morning at eleventh.
If we can get information on that, we'll certainly pass
it on to you. Also on the show today, did
you see the Hall of Fame last night the AFL
Hall of Fame induction ceremony, a number of South Australians
were recognized. Ken farmer finally elevated to legend status, long overdue.

(03:19):
He was not in the initial inauguration to become a
Hall of Famer, which is crazy because his record is
just remarkable. I think he kicked over one hundred goals
eleven seasons in a row. Just an amazing situation. Anyway,
finally elevated to legend status. Peter Daly probably one of
the funniest of the funniest speeches for a Hall of

(03:45):
Fame inductee. Peter Daly was the original Jumbo Prince South
Adelaide champion during the sixties and seventies. He was so funny.
The only other rival to that was the current Jumbo
Prince Rick Davies, who a brilliant, brilliant speech at the
Hall of Fame, one that didn't bring a lot of laughs,

(04:07):
but brought a lot of tears. Aaron Phillips made history
one of the first AFLW players inducted to the Hall
of Fame. A dual AFLWED Premiership player, multiple time Best
and firest winner with the Adelaide Crows. She became the
first daughter to join her father, Greg Phillips as a
Hall of Fame inductee, and what she had to say
was quite moving to Dad.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
I can't imagine how hard it would have been to
tell your thirteen year old daughter that she couldn't play
the game that she loves anymore. And twenty seven years
later she's standing next to you in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Which just.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, not a dry eye in the house. Aaron Phillips
Hall of Fame speech talking to Dad Greg Phillips. A
wonderful moment and a good recognition for South Australians at
the Hall of Fame and for some particularly Ken Farmer,
long overdue. Also on the show today, street gangs are
going to be treated similar to outlaw motorcycle gangs under

(05:18):
tough new measures the government is considering. The proposed new
laws the government I was looking at would give police
greater powers to tackle street gangs in the state, with
a key element allowing authorities to deal with street gangs
in a similar way to outlaw motorcycle gangs. But while
it might sound positive, there is a negative aspect to it.
And we'll speak with Schoma Reid, watchdog, an advocate for

(05:40):
children and young people, regarding these new laws and when
they come in. Also on the show today, the importance
of trades. We've been talking about this for some time
and we know we're trying to boost the number of houses.
There are just not enough houses to go around. The
government has this Federal Government of and plan to produce

(06:01):
millions of houses or one point two million houses. They're
falling way behind, largely due to the number of trades available.
But the lack of tradees is really a widespread It's
nothing just to do with the housing industry. It's to
do with defense, it's to do with health, it's to
do with the clean energy. So what is the situation
with tradees? And we're going to devote half an hour

(06:23):
a little bit later in the morning about tradees and
actually talk to a young carpentry apprentice to find out
why he decided to become a trade under lots of pressure.
And this is the case that there's been the situation
for thirty years or so where you've got to get
a degree. You've got to go to university. If you
want to amount to anything in life, don't become a
trade get a university degree. Well, history has shown that

(06:47):
so many people have gone to get degrees. A lot
of those with degrees and are working in cafes and restaurants.
The tradees are fully employed, there's just not enough of them,
and the importance of trades cannot be under sold. So
we'll spend time talking about tradees. Also Australia's tariff trump
card at G seven. We going to the G seven conference.
But it appears if we play our cards right, our

(07:09):
trump card is our resources and if we can utilize
them and use them correctly, Australia and the rest of
the world will benefit. More on that later, so that
your calls on eight double two three double o double oh,
give us a call. Love to hear from you.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Five double A. Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Twenty past nine, five double A on this Wednesday morning,
hi gg erin Phillips speech at the Hall of Fame
was so eloquent and heartfelt, such worthy others to be inducted.
Good on you, Gary, Thank you very much for that, Graham.
The latest bungle re wrong embryo. At least it was
supposed to be her same sex partners but her own instead.
No way the level of the serious bungle before the

(07:48):
couple in the story can go again and have another
attempt with the other embryo. Just me and my thoughts.
But mistakes should never be made good on your judy.
I mean it must. Anyone undergoing IVF treatment must say,
you know, can we be sure are we getting the
right embryo? Are they doing the right thing? Questions must
be asked, why are the standards and you've got to
say it, why are the standards so low that this

(08:09):
could possibly happen? Watch this space. We'll talk about that
more later. Well, the issue that we're concerned about at
the moment a major stink developing over three major housing
development sites around Adelaide. The problem they're not connected to
the main sewerage system. Human waste is having to be
trucked from the developments. The state opposition claims there will
be housing hold ups with no money for vital pipelines

(08:32):
and three of Labour's four major housing land sites joining
Minawa's opposition of housing spokesman Michelle Nsick Michelle, good morning to.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
You, Good morning Graham.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
This seems to be a major oversight. Or was the
government where it was going to happen beforehand?

Speaker 8 (08:48):
Well that is a.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
Really good question, because the word that we've heard is
that there was a bit of a rush to announce
some greenfield sites for the relatively new government with February
twenty twenty three, so they announced some twenty four thousand
homes would be built at Selegspeech, Dry Creek, Concordia and

(09:09):
on Carpunga Heights. What we've been told Adelaide being Adelaide
and you know you can't keep secrets in this city,
is that they hadn't actually checked with say water whether
those sites were development ready, and it appears that even
the one which is the most development ready on Capunga Heights,

(09:29):
there was sort of you know, promises made that first
homes could begin in twenty twenty four. You know, now
another year is passed and that particular site will be
lucky to start seeing slabbed poured in twenty twenty six.
So I think this whole, this historic land Releases it
was called then, has been very misleading, which is really

(09:52):
quite sad, I think for particularly for first home buyers
or people who wanted to buy a new home at
one of these sites, because you know, we've since had
the roadmap, and I'm sure the minister will say that,
you know, there was some information in the road that
it doesn't actually spell out that you know, in black
and whites. There shall be no pipework, there shall be

(10:14):
no trunk may available until at least twenty twenty eight,
So the funding that's been announced doesn't come to some
of these sites, which means that you know, twenty two
of the twenty four thousand homes that were promised in
twenty twenty three won't be anywhere near developer ready, and

(10:35):
that may not even be till in that period, depending
on what funding is available.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Then if you were in power of the moment, what
would you be doing.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
Well, Look, I think a lot more transparency about these
things needs to be part of the conversation. I think,
you know, people get sick of politicians making promises that
they can't keep, So I think, you know, the government
needs to be very honest about time frames and certainly wasn't.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
In this instance.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
And you know, greenfield sites, you know, from what the
development sector tell us, tend to be a lot more
expensive to build and they do take that long time frame.
So I think, you know, the announcements are all great,
and we've been supportive of all of those, but I'm

(11:27):
just concerned that a lot of people are holding out
a lot of hope for things We've also certainly called
on a stamp duty to be provided for existing homes
because we know that not every first time buyer is
going to want to buy a house in a land
relief site because a lot of those are away from

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their friends and family, whereas they might be able to
get an existing unit for four hundred and fifty thousand
Brooklyn Park, for instance, with a young woman named Leah
who who was looking.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
To buy there.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
So there are a lot of other things that can
be done, and of course, you know, we need a
lot more to be done in terms of having some
targets for the number of people that work in the
construction sector, because there are antything at the moment, and
our apprenticeship's policy would go a long way to assisting
to make sure that apprentices are actually completing because they're

(12:21):
dropping out at the rate of fifty five percent at
the moment.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Michelle Lensig, thanks for your time. Nick Champion is the
housing minister, He joins me. Now, Minister, how do you
respond to what the opposition housing spokesman has had to say.
Spokeswoman has had to.

Speaker 9 (12:34):
Say, well, good morning, Graham. I mean the Liberals plan
which has just been outline to give stamp duty confessions
for existing housing will only make housing and an example
that she gives as a flat and Brooklyn Park, you'll
only serve to make that housing more expensive because if
you give a tax cart or a demand side initiative

(12:57):
and you're not adding to supply, you will force prices up.
So at the moment, the liberals only policy, other than
not putting in water infrastructure and greenfield sites because it's
two expenses, is to turbot charged prices in existing suburbs
and exacerbate infill in existing suburbs, which is no plan
at all. In the housing roadmap in last year, we

(13:20):
clearly articulated the timeframes for Concordia, for Selex Beach, for
Onpringer Heights, for Dry Creek. It's on page sixty and
sixty one of that document. It was launched in front
of thousand people, had a lot of press coverage at
the time, and we clearly articulated that water and sewer
mains you will have to be provided on top of

(13:43):
the existing one point five billion dollars extra that we're
putting into water and sewer mains in the city, which
is supporting growth in places like River Lee, and Angle Vale.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
So when will happened to those too well? Construction areas.

Speaker 9 (13:56):
So what we've seen is we're going to finish the
Code amendments this year. We're going to then it goes
to land Division and Engineering, which is the province of
local government. But we've now got some discipline on local
government about how the way they do that.

Speaker 10 (14:10):
And then water and.

Speaker 9 (14:12):
Sewer is scheduled to be agreed between the government and
developers in the year twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So that's how locked in.

Speaker 9 (14:21):
Yeah, Well, the important thing here is we've got to
actually get obviously contributions out of the developers, and then
we've obviously got to provide a contribution ourselves because there's
this trunk infrastructure and the early vice is that the
pipes that we put in for CONCORDI will be even
bigger than the d N twelve hundred millimeter pipes that
we're putting in in the Northern suburbs at the moment.

(14:42):
So we're putting in an enormous amount of infrastructure to
basically build our network, and then the next stages of
the network are going to be currently being identified. All
of that work's currently being done, will be agreed to
by twenty twenty seven with the developers in anticipation of
the regulatory which begins in twenty eight to thirty two.
So one of the problems, if you like, at the

(15:05):
moment is we're doing capital infrastructure rounds over a four
year period, which is probably too short. We should probably
looking with this trunk infrastructure. The policy architecture should probably
be look at looking along a lot further out and
have a lot more continuity to it. So you're turning
our mind to all those things.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, man, surely it's far from ideal to have human
waste having to be trucked from these developments.

Speaker 9 (15:30):
Well, that's why we've just stopped it in Riverlely. So
one of the things that our one point five billion
dollars and water and sewer infrastructure is done is to
actually stop sewerage tankering which was occurring at Riverlely from happening.
And I was just talking to someone on the weekend.
I bumped into someone who works at Rivily and they
were telling me about how that's progressing. So, you know,

(15:53):
we are slowly ending tankering in these new estates. But
when you're getting a state up and running because of
the pressure and the you know, if you like the
sort of volume you have to tank us for the
initial stages of the development, but you just don't want
to be doing it forever. So there's there's a a

(16:14):
whole I'm sure if we've got say Water to give
you a sort of a briefing about or your listeners
are briefing about water and sewer infrastructure, it all depends on,
you know, on pressure and capacity and volume, and they're
trying to manage an integrated system, which you know, we
all get up in the morning gram and we flash

(16:35):
the toilet and we don't think much more of it.
But meanwhile, the good people at say Water are managing
all of the all of the city's excellence. So it's
these are important infrastructure initiatives, and you know, we've articulated
how we're going to do them, the timeline that we're
doing in them. We've already raided, laid thousands of meters
of water pipe in the northern suburbs and supported developments

(17:00):
and seat you know, and then fabric and then no
longer finally in on Capringer height.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, finally, Minister, the decision on the Walker Tower too.
It's rather controversial. It will be announced this morning.

Speaker 11 (17:12):
What can you tell us, Well, it's being deliberated at SCAP,
who the State Commission Assessment Panel, which are basically the
people who make sure it meets the Planning and Development Code. Obviously,
this is the project that the government backs. We think
it will lead to much better outcomes for heritage and

(17:33):
open space and civic civic space and activation of the square.
We think Walker has done a Walker development, the government
architect that has done a very good job if you like,
improving the proposal. We're now getting a much better proposal
in terms of you know, the civic space and the
activation of it. It's a really important project and people

(17:56):
have got to remember that there's already in existing approval
which which Walker Corporation will activate for a three story
building which will sit behind Parliament House and completely obliterate
you know, the site lines of Parliament House. So you know,
it's not a choice between a tower and nothing. It's
a choice between a tower and a three story building

(18:16):
that won't really serve the state's needs, all the all
the festival Plaza's needs.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
The tower will bring people and activity and development to
a place which we know people want to congregate in
but they need facilities and restaurants and you know all
the rest of it to do that.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Good on your Nick, Nick Champion, the housing minister on
the Walker two development. We'll have more on that later.
Back off the news headlines.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Five Double A Mornings with Gram Goodings.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
You like a glass of wine, not of do red wine?
White wine? Interesting? The trend away from full strength red wine.
When a company like pen owner Treasury Wines releases a
new range of no and low alcohol wine varieties, you
know there's something in it. They've unveiled a new fifteen

(19:10):
million dollar no low production facility in the Barossa Valley.
If Penfolds are doing it, you know it's going to spread.
And that is the trend. So what does it mean
for those people who have wonderful wine cellars And I'm
thinking of someone in particular here with all this full
strength wine and people are starting to drink low alcohol

(19:32):
wine or no alcohol wine. Because young people don't drink
as much alcohol as they used to. They're seeking other
ways to get their kicks, it would seem. But yeah,
when we were young, we used to drink, probably to excess.
It was usually beer. It wasn't wine. If it was wine,
what was it? Porphyry pearl or leb traumulch some of

(19:54):
the good old wines. But yeah, this is an interesting
trend that is happening. You can get out mid strength
heiras or a passion fruit prosecco. So what is your consumption?
Have you, as you've got an older reduced your alcohol consumption?
I know I certainly have. I still enjoy a wine,
but it might be one or two as opposed to many.

(20:15):
Maybe it's a quantity gone for quality these days. But yeah,
it seems that no low wine, no alcohol or low
alcohol production is coming into being, not only in Australia
but around the world. Like to know your thoughts on
that eight double two three double double oh is the
number to ring well. A Melbourne woman has had the
wrong embryo transferred to her during an IVF procedure at

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Monash Clinic. It's another bungle by the fertility giant exposed.
This year marks the second fertility clinic mix up of
its kind, heightening concerns about an industry that did not
have much active government oversight until recently and obviously needs
more of it to get some insights. Joining us now
a University of South Australia bioethicist and research fellow Hillary Bowman.

(20:56):
Smart Hillary, just what happened?

Speaker 12 (21:00):
So in this particular case, it happened in Clayton in Melbourne,
the Monash clinic. There was the same sex couple seeking IVF.
They wanted to have the partners embryo implanted, but Monash
IVF implanted her own embryo. So that was the mix

(21:25):
up in this case, which is slightly different to the
previous case in Brisbane where it was an entirely unrelated
embryo with someone else's embryo.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
But this is the second incident for the Monash IVF.

Speaker 12 (21:39):
Yes, it is the second that they have announced publicly.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yes, I mean, I know it's early days, but we know,
do we know why? How could this possibly happen?

Speaker 12 (21:50):
It's difficult to say. The quality of reproductive care in
Australia is very high. The sector is very good in Australia,
and so I think that is important for anyone undergoing
IVF to know that, you know, Australian standards for care
and Australia are very high. And so there's obviously a

(22:11):
lot of you know, systems in place, but there is
always sort of the risk of human error, and I
think what this suggests is the need for more comprehensive oversight,
more comprehensive regulation, and a bit sort of I suppose
a review of those processes who.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Should bear ethical responsibility for the error?

Speaker 12 (22:32):
It's very difficult to say. I think fundamentally what this
is is a failure of systems, not of an individual person.
So again, what this suggests is those systems need to
be reviewed, the checks, the technical kind of like tracking
of the embryos throughout the system, And what that sort

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of needs to be accompanied by is a movement towards
a more national kind of standardization and oversight, because right
now it's state by state.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I mean, IVF has been around for a long time.
It's worked pretty effectively over the years. To get a
couple of breaches and mistakes like this in a short
space of time. Really would for someone considering IVF put
some level of doubt into their minds, wouldn't it.

Speaker 12 (23:20):
Yeah, So in this type of care, trust is critical.
Trust in your doctor, trust in the clinic, trust in
the sort of regulatory framework that that clinic is operating under.
And so the thing that's obviously concerning about this is
that it may sort of shake that trust, you know,
in a provider like Monash IVF. But I understand, you know,

(23:42):
people may feel this regardless of where they are seeking IBF.
But there are over one hundred thousand cycles of IVF
in Australia per year while this has happened. I suppose
the again, it is very very uncommon, and I think

(24:03):
if people are feeling anxious or are worried about this,
they should talk to their doctor. Talk to their doctor,
ask them about their processes, ask them about how the
clinic operates are. Just say that they're worried. And I
think that's sort of the most critical thing is that
relationship with your doctor and your healthcare provider.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
What about the long term psychological and ethical implication of
the families affected by iv areas like.

Speaker 12 (24:31):
This, I mean, I don't think we can sort of
even begin to sort of imagine the level of sort
of psychological distress that can be sort of incurred by this.
IBS is very expensive, it's very tough emotionally physically, you know,
with just the treatment itself, and so you can imagine

(24:54):
having something like this on top of that already, you know,
emotionally challenging kind of process is devastating. So I you know,
I think one thing that is going to have to
happen is is that you know, monash ivf and is
going to have to support those families with you know,

(25:14):
follow up sort of I guess access to psychological treatment
and that sort of thing would be, you know, something
that I think would be a reasonable thing to expect.
And then again as part of building that trust, you know,
maintaining trust in the sector, it's about going back to

(25:35):
those systems and moving towards instead of this state by
state patchwork kind of regulatory sort of situation, moving towards
a national framework, a national fertility sort of regulatory framework
with enforcement mechanisms, oversight mechanisms, all of those sort of things.

(25:57):
Because again it's it's state by state and Queensland and
the sector was self regulated for a long time. They've
just brought in regulation, new regulation. South Australia has the
Assisted Reproductive Treatment Act of nineteen eighty eight. Nineteen eighty eight, sorry,
so that's been around for a while. But I think

(26:19):
for the families it's about you know, really being supported
in light of these events and for people undergoing IDF.
More broadly, it's about rebuilding trust in the sort of
regulatory frameworks and the systems and the processes in place
that stopped this sort of thing that happening, stop this
sort of thing from happening.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, it's a disturbing situation. Thank you very much for that.
Hillary Bowman smart on the bungle at de Monash IVF Clinic.
Hillary is the University of South Australia bioethicist and research fellow.
What are your thoughts? Eight double two three double o doublo?
Are you undergoing our IVF as it made you a
little concerned? Have you undergone IVF and had a good

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experience with it? We'd like to know your story. Eight
double two three double oh doublo is the number to
ring well I see. Quantus is shutting down Singapore based
Jetstar Asia by the end of July. It will see
five hundred jobs go after years of financial losses. A
strategic restructure is what Quantus is calling it. The thirteen

(27:24):
A three twenty aircraft used by Jetstar Asia will be
redeployed across Australia and New Zealand, with one hundred jobs
to be created in the process. It's understood nine will
go to Jetstar, including six as lease replacements and four
to Network Aviation in Western Australia. So Quantus closes Jetstar Asia.
Five hundred jobs lost after announcing financial losses. Eight double

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two three double o double oh is my number to
ring still to come on the show today. The importance
of tradees? Are you a trade? What made you become
a trade? Were you pressured to get a degree of
some kind as was the case, I mean the government
programs for the last twenty thirty years, so you must
have a degree. Well, it would seem that those would

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degrees are more likely to be on the breadline unemployed
than tradees. And we have a huge shortage of trades.
So we'll take a look at the importance of tradees
from all different levels a little bit later on this morning.
Eight double two to three double is the number back
shortly five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings. Andrew says,

(28:32):
these IVF issues definitely sound like a procedure failure. Even
when you get your blood taken, they ask you to
spell your name and date of birth for each file
they put a sticker on. Nick says, good morning Graham.
The only solution to the housing crisis is to bring
in more immigration. Nick, I think you're joking, aren't you.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Aren't you?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And Jack says, why would you open land development without
water and sewerage? It does leave a concern, doesn't it,
that you would announce a big housing development but in
the fine print or there will be no sewerage connected.
We'll have to ship out the human waste for well,
maybe just a few years. Andrew says, I'm a trade,

(29:13):
a cabinet maker. When I went off the tools, I
worked selling components for kitchens, malamine boards, hinges, doors, benchtops, etc.
And it has taken me to positions from customer service
to sales rep across various industries. So there's plenty of
work even after you put down the tools. Yeah, thank
you for that. Andrew. Yes, there are many avenues for trades.
It's not just a matter of just looking at one

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area and saying that's it for life. You can branch
out into so many different areas and we'll take a
look at a little bit later on. Well, street gangs
are going to be treated similar to outlaw motorcycle gangs
under tough new measures. The government is considering the proposed
new laws would give police greater paths to tackle street
gangs in southa Stralia, with a key element allowing authorities

(29:56):
to deal with street gangs in a similar way to
outlaw motorcycle gangs. But while it might sound positive, as
Shanna read, the Guardian for Children and Young People has
some thoughts about it. Good morning to you.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
Good morning, thank you for having me my pleasures.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Tell us what are your major concerns?

Speaker 13 (30:15):
Yeah, look, Graham, I think for me, I was at
a round table that the Attorney General held earlier this
year and it was really clear that the sentiment from
this roundtable was that this is the wrong path for
us to go down and we need to look more
at the underlying reasons as to why children join games
to offend in these These were experts from across the

(30:37):
legal field, the social justice field, from drug and alcohol field,
and they were really clearly saying that we need to
look at rehabilitation for children engaged in drug and alcohol
addiction even around in how well as the NDI is
serving our repeat young offenders. I don't know if you know,
but about ninety percent of the children in the Youth

(31:00):
Detention Center have a disability related needs. So there are
a multitude of things that we could be doing before
going down the path of putting strict laws around them
and categorizing them in really what we believe is an
adult criminalized mindset, and they're not. They're just children.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
You say you were involved in this roundtable, give us
some of the feedback from the people involved.

Speaker 14 (31:24):
Sure, sure, so.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
They're definitely that.

Speaker 13 (31:26):
Obviously, talking about rehabilitation centers at the moment, there's very
limited access to children in that space. They were talking
about high quality mentoring for children in youth detention, so
obviously the government's looking at serious repeat offenders. I think
there is a general assumption, and one of my jobs
is to oversight the youth detention facility. There's this assumption

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that children will go to youth detention and receive high
quality rehabilitation. I can tell you that that's certainly not
the case. There are a number of things that get
in the way of children receiving that, whether it's time
in attention, or whether it's the quality of programs or
accessibility to the programs. But also when they leave, they
come back out into a community and into a home
environment that facilitates offending. So this roundtable really brew down

(32:13):
into some of the things around supporting families, better bowl programs,
addressing domestic and family alutts, and even addressing mental health
issues that these children have, but not only that that
their families also hold.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
So do you believe the government shouldn't have greater powers
to tackle street gangs?

Speaker 13 (32:30):
I think what the sentiment I get, and I think
Klein Mardie, Attorney General, said on radio last night that
gaining problem is not a concern here in South Australia
and that we must We have the lowest use defending
rate in Australia. So I'm a bit perplexed as to
while we're going down this path. But I do recognize

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and I agree. I live in our community as well,
and I have seven children.

Speaker 15 (32:54):
Graham.

Speaker 13 (32:55):
Public safety or something and community safety is essential for us,
and to think about how we do that and how
do we balance the right for us to have safe communities,
but also we need to base our decisions on evidence
and probably not fear, which we've seen in some of
the other states. We risk creating further harms for children

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and for future generations if we go down go down
a path of criminalizing children in this way, we will
we know that earlier child comes into contact with these detentions,
the more likely they are to be adult offenders. And
I don't think that's what we want. And I'm worried
about the unintended consequences of laws like this.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
So you don't think we have street gangs like they
do in other states.

Speaker 13 (33:38):
Well, I think last night I was listening to the
radio and I heard the Attorney General saying we don't
have a game problem. The game problem is not a
major concern. It's exactly what he said. So I worry
about this that we're creating something that we don't need
to create. I believe in the talents and skill sets
in South Australian youth work sector, social support sector to

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be able to support our children. We just need to
be able to provide access to that. I think that's
where we should be focusing our initiatives is focusing on families,
focusing on drug and alcohol problems, focusing on domestic violent
services and also disability supports. I think that's what came
out of the rain to the roundtable, and I support
that the root causes of what we need to get to,

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not necessarily the end product.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
The headline that's come out of it though, is street
gangs will be treated to outlaw motorcycle gangs. That's what
we're hearing.

Speaker 13 (34:30):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think for me, I think we
need to understand that for young people who offend in groups,
it's very different to adults who are members of criminal organizations.
We can't forget that their motivations are different, their developmental
capacity is different, and they have unique vulnerabilities. And I

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think when for most children involved in group offending, they're
not part of a structured game per se. They're acting
as peer clusters we need to and often can I
say often under adult coercion. So I think we need
to be really careful around how we categorize our children.
And when we apply laws designed for adults and organize
crime to children, we can misclassify and also unfairly punish

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our children. So I think we have to be really
considered in our approach to lawmaking in this space.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
So where are we at the government is consulting on
these laws and considering them laws at the moment, Can
there be any more input? I mean, have you got
to say in this Yeah?

Speaker 13 (35:34):
I think I'm really pleased that the government's going out
for further conversations and consultation on that. I think it's
important they listen to the experts. I also think it's
really really important that they engage with children and young
people that have been through, you know, a group offending
type behaviors. I think it's really important they are willing
to share around what kind of drove that for them.

(35:56):
I think that's really integral and understanding motivations, understanding what's
going on behind the scenes. So I really encourage the
government to look at doing that, and we can look
at what's going on in other states and the unintended
consequences that.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Are going on over there.

Speaker 13 (36:12):
I meet with the Children's Commissioners from across the country
regularly to talk about what's going on in their stay,
and they have genuine worries about the treatment of children
and the unintended consequences that we're going to see from this.
So I will certainly be talking to the attorney and
we'll contribute that way, and hopefully we'll be able to
share our expertise and that's taken on board in good faith.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
We'll look forward to hearing the outcome. Seaning to read
thank you for your time today watch Dog an advocate
for children and young people in youth Attention five double
A mornings eight double two three double o double. Oh,
let's take a call Zelco. What's happening out on the street.

Speaker 16 (36:47):
Yeah, it's probably about two ks out of Englewood, heading
towards to become a Raca.

Speaker 10 (36:51):
There's a car.

Speaker 16 (36:53):
It's slipped on its side, a bit of a graphic holder.
But they're slowly letting cars through on the open planes.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
So emergency services are there.

Speaker 16 (37:04):
Yeah, everyone's there.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Ifs are there, does it look like anyone's been engined.

Speaker 16 (37:10):
Yeah, I'm just about to drive past it now, But
it looks like the person that was in there is
out of the car.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
By the looks.

Speaker 16 (37:21):
Five seconds. It looks like a lady that was driving,
she's out of the car.

Speaker 17 (37:27):
Shit.

Speaker 16 (37:29):
That's flippery roads. These things are going to happen if
you go two cars look.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Thanks for that, Zelco. Exactly where is it again, so
if people are in the vicinity they can avoid it.

Speaker 16 (37:38):
It's about two k's out of Inglewood, heading towards Gammaraka.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Excellent, good on. Yeah, Zelko, appreciate that. Thanks for giving
us a call. If you're out on the road and
something is happening that you've noticed that might be of
interest to our five double A audience. Please give us
a call. We'd appreciate it. Eight double two three double
O double is the number from the text line. Back
in the day when we actually had discipline and responsibility
and respect, we didn't have these issues, but the work

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culture will always try to make excuses and change things
that used to work but never seem to back. Shortly
five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings six past ten
five double A on this Wednesday morning, and later this
morning we will hear the outcome of the Walk of
Corporation's plan for the Phase two. The second will be

(38:27):
the tallest tower, in fact our first official skyscraper, a
thirty eight story commercial building next to Parliament House. There's
been a lot of controversy surrounding it and we'll have
the latest on that as the morning progresses, so stay
with us well. Australia's effort to tackle its housing crisis
has been crippled by worsening shortage of tradespeople the construction industry,
now facing a shortfall of around one hundred and thirty

(38:48):
thousand workers this year alone. This gap threatens not just
the delivery of new homes, but the roll out of
crucial and critical infrastructure in health, defense, education, and clean energy.
The skills crisis is being compounded by decades of education
policy that's pushed more young Australians towards university. I reckon
it started about thirty years ago. We're all told you've
got to get a degree.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
These policies boosted degree attainment, but had unintended consequences a
lack of trades people. BAE Systems Australia is one of
the country's largest defense contractors. Its headquarters are here in
Adelaide and they play central role, particularly in naval and
maritime defenses. Joining us now from BAE Systems is Georgette Elston. Georgette,

(39:31):
good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (39:32):
Good morning Graham.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
How are you?

Speaker 17 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Well, thanks. How has the shortage of tradees impacted you?

Speaker 10 (39:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:39):
Look, we're acutely aware of what's happening across the broader
South Australian economy. We've recruited just over six hundred trades
in the last couple of years for the Hunter Class
Figurate program, and we have eight hundred more to go.
In South Australia over the next four years. At the moment,
I think we're doing okay.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
So are you drawing on people just from South Australia
or do you need to to draw on.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
A wider.

Speaker 7 (40:03):
We're drawing mostly from South Australia at the moment. There
is definitely interstate interest in some interstate people coming through.
We're definitely relying on our partnerships with the South Australian
government to pool from the education system. We've ramped up
our apprenticeship programs. We've got about fifty apprentices per year
coming through.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
So what sort of skills are needed to undertake the cause?

Speaker 7 (40:25):
So we on the Hunter Class Figurate program. We've got
a number of trade roles that in that space. So
we've got our steel workers, welders, pipe fitters, mechanical fitters
and electricians. So just as an example, we've got about
forty electricians on site at Osborne at the moment and
we need to grow that to four hundreds by twenty
twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
So I take it if you can't get the right
number of tradees it will halt the whole process, or
at least slow it.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
Is it continuencies in place around how we're looking at
our application pools and labor hire other companies to help support.

Speaker 18 (41:02):
So we're pretty.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
Confident at the moment. We're on track with our numbers
at the moment, but we've definitely got a number of
continuesies in place.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Do you have partnerships with the unis and TAPE and
the like, we do.

Speaker 7 (41:13):
We've got a number of bettered partnerships. Really practical things
that we've become involved in is the technical colleges at
Findon and the Heights. We're also working with the Department
for Education on right down in primary schools on a
stema root program and trying to get kids to stay
interested in side the map, we're working with the University

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of South Australian Flenders on degree apprenticeships and software and
mechanical engineering. And we've also got partnerships with a number
of other schools through Education School Pathway programs.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
With major defense projects like the Honda Class Frigate's well underway,
can you future proof your workforce to make sure that
everything will be delivered on time?

Speaker 19 (41:57):
Absolutely?

Speaker 7 (41:57):
So we know as a big South Australian cup we
have a role to play in growing the STEM pipeline.
We're really actively involved in pathway programs, really raising interest
in schools around apprenticeships and trades. There really good careers.
You can start somewhere, you know, forty year program and
end up somewhere completely different. So our key message to

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kids is that if you're really interested in hands on skills,
you can come in, have a go through our work
experience program, look through the trades, and then work out
where your career might.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Take you from there.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
If you had trouble breaking through that degree ceiling talking
about I mean in this country for thirty years or so,
all young children, it's been impressed on them. You know,
complete your secondary education, you've got to have a Uni degree,
and that's led to a major trade shortage. Do you
get that pushback? Do you get that feeling that out
there in the community young people think well I've got

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to have a degree on what's the point of going.

Speaker 20 (42:52):
For a trade?

Speaker 18 (42:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (42:54):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
I mean I personally have a son in near Tenant
at the moment, and I can tell you his school
is definitely pushing the university pathway. What we say is, no,
every kid really wants to be at university doing theoretical
work for four years and then getting into the workplace.
There's a lot of kids out there that are really
interested in getting on site work experience and getting into

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the workplace as soon as possible. We see that both
from a trades perspective and from a university perspective through
the degree apprenticeship programs well.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
As we hear on this program, and a lot of
anecdotal evidence suggests that there are plenty of people with
degrees who are out of work, but there are very
few tradees looking for a job.

Speaker 19 (43:32):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
I think if you pick up a trades career at
the moment, you've got your pick up major projects in
South Australia to get involved in.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Georgiette, great to chat. Thanks for your time today, beautiful,
Thanks for having me on Graham. That's what's happening at
BA Systems Australia. Georgette Elston, Head of Resourcing and Early Careers.
We're concentrating on tradees at the moment and if you're
a trade then tell us how you got into it.
Did you do an apprenticeship? Are you on the job
on the tools? Give us a called light double two

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three uboubo. Someone who is doing an apprenticeship at the
moment is Jacob, who's a third year carpentry apprentice. He
joins me. Now, Jacob, good morning to you.

Speaker 21 (44:08):
Good morning, how are you going.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I'm well, thanks. So what wanted you? What was it
led you towards the trade?

Speaker 21 (44:15):
The thing that sort of led me toward the trade
is I feel at the moment, in this day and age,
there's a lot more opportunity to run your own business
as a trade rather than going to university or something
like that.

Speaker 18 (44:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (44:29):
I just think there's a lot of opportunity for young
tradees to be able to manage and run their own business.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Was there any pressure on you within the education system
that said, you know, Jacob, you've got to get a degree,
You've got to go to Yuni.

Speaker 21 (44:43):
Yeah, I feel that there definitely was. I actually would
accepted them to borrow some my preferences at university when
I left school. But the thought I got an apprenticeship
offered to me obviously, and decided to run with that.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
And you're into year three and enjoying it so far.

Speaker 21 (45:00):
Yeah, yeah, I really enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
I love it.

Speaker 21 (45:02):
Carpenter is obviously all trades, but I'm a practical learner,
so learning with my hands on site suits me a
lot better than learning in a classroom.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Would you recommend it to any young person listening in
a sort of not really, you know, they don't want
to be a lawyer or a doctor or an accountant.
Would you recommend going into a.

Speaker 19 (45:21):
Trade one hundred percent.

Speaker 21 (45:24):
Yeah, I recommend going to a trade. There's endless opportunities
with the trade. I've said before, like running your own
business at a young age is definitely something that's really possible,
and there's an opportunity to make them real money.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Well, Jacob, more power to your congratulations. So you've got one.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
Year to go.

Speaker 21 (45:43):
Yeah, yeah, about one year ago.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
That's all right, brilliant, keep up the good work, no worries.
Good on your Jacob. That's Jacob, a third year carpentry apprentice,
on why he went to boards an apprenticeship and doing
very well. Indeed, now Australia has twenty seven thousand fewer
trade in the last year than in twenty twenty three.
Then the number has dropped, and that's an alarming number.

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When you think that the government wants to build one
point two million homes over a five year period, I mean,
the chances of that happening are virtually nil. Our housing
crisis has been crippled by worsening shortages of tradespeople. Construction
industry facing a shortfall of one hundred thirty thousand workers
this year alone. So any young person going through the

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school system who really doesn't have or isn't hell bent
on getting a degree, get a trade, get a trade,
because you're almost guaranteed, well i'd say you're guaranteed as
long as you're a reasonable tradey, you're going to get
a job and it's going to be there for a
long time. And as Jacob said, opportunities. You know, he's
doing carpentry to set up his own small business. And

(46:50):
I am fully aware of young people who have done
exactly that. Started out with a trade, then a few
years down the track set up their own business, doing
very nicely. Back shortly five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings,
eighteen past ten, five Double A on this Wednesday morning,
the eleventh day of June. I hope we find you well.

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We're talking about the shortage of tradees in our country,
in our state in particular, and Australia's effort to tackle
a massive housing crisis has been crippled by a worsening
shortage of tradespeople joining us now Steph Knight as a
executive director of the Housing Industry Association. Stephen, good morning
to you, Thank good morning to you, Graham. The government,

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both state and federal have ambitious plans to overcome the
housing crisis by building lots of houses, but that really
is being hamstrung by a lack of trades.

Speaker 20 (47:39):
Isn't it.

Speaker 17 (47:41):
Well that's not all answerplying, I think, and.

Speaker 7 (47:47):
You have to think that we're should building the less houses.

Speaker 17 (47:51):
Than we are have in the past as well. So
that's for a number of other factors that could be
relating to finance at a faderhouse with the construction cost
going up. So yes, we've got this dalma of massive
demand for housing, but on the supply side, we're actually
building less than we have been in the past. So cost,

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a living crisis, all those kinds of things, availability of
land or impacting on the number of houses we build.
But the future looks really strong for housing, so we
might be in this kind of holding pattern at the moment.
But not only we need to build more houses, but
there's a massive competition for young people into trades. So

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if we look ahead to infrastructure projects, and mining and defense.
We heard earlier BA representative talking about apprentices for them.
So we're in a very highly competitive area for trades
and so I think that's going to be as big
an issue for us in the future, not just the
demand for housing.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
What more do you think you can do to attract
young people to the building trades.

Speaker 17 (48:58):
Well, it's not been done, I think as much as
Rottender or sorry. Recruitment retention is a bigger an issue
for us, where not much better than half of the
apprentices who start don't complete. So if we were able
to fix that then I think that would certainly help
us in recruitment side as well. But governments well committed

(49:19):
to recruitment schools are on board. We've got a number
of them, lots of school based apprenticeships or those kinds
of things that are all feeding people into our industry.
But I think we've got to keep them. And there
are some quite practical reasons why it's difficult for apprentices

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to come on board, And just from a residential construction
point of view, we need them to have a car license,
we need them to have transports so they can get
from job to job. So Coten that's quite difficult for
young people coming out of school because at the time
it takes to get a license and the costs, so
those kind of things, you know, kind of practically acchues
why we do find it difficult to find apprentices. We've

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got about eight thousand apprentices in construction, so there's a.

Speaker 8 (50:07):
Lot of people.

Speaker 17 (50:08):
But even within the HIO, in our group training organization,
we've got places available for apprentices right now. So if
anybody's interested in the career and carpentry or something like that,
will give us a give us a call.

Speaker 8 (50:21):
We'd love to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
With apprentices, we hear anecdotally of a lot of apprentices
starting an apprenticeship and bailing out. Do you what's the
feedbaker get? Why do young people often leave an apprenticeship
midway through.

Speaker 17 (50:37):
That's a really good question, and there's been a lot
of work done on that with surveys we've done ourselves
and others have done. But it's a kind of bit cultural.
Back in the day when my mates were going into apprenticeships,
I went into a traineeship, you kind of just expected
you were going to get low paid and you would
stay there to the end, and you would just do it,
and a lot of them were fifteen and sixteen year

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old sweets. Nowadays they're eighteen. Perhaps when they're looking at
going into.

Speaker 12 (51:05):
A career.

Speaker 17 (51:08):
After the expectations of the work working outside, for example,
physical work, you know, sometimes doesn't meet their expectations, and
you know, sometimes it just can be that it's not
what they thought it was going to be. And it's
not uncommon for young people to change jobs regularly, so

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that four year commitment can be a hard road for them.
But as we've heard from Jacob earlier, the right person
with the right place, with the right host, in the
right trade, I really loves it and they just want
to get on. And I really admire Jacob with his
you know, a requirement or his interest in actually progressing

(51:51):
to being the tradesman and also having their own business
because both people coming through will then employ apprentices themselves.
So that's really fantastic to hear. But the government, you know,
is doing a lot of work. They understand the problem
we've got, and so there's been an announcement recently about
fast tracked apprenticeships. That's a pilot program, you know, with

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on board with that, so if we can pull them
through a bit quicker in three years instead of four.
Then they get gets out into the workforce quicker and
not brings in an opportunity for someone else to come
on board. But now those programs, you know, there's no
there's no possibility or compliance or capability or any of

(52:36):
those things being compromised, safety, attitude, all those things will
just be fast tracked for the right applicants. There's one
hundred people, probably a thousand of the next few years,
they'll look at that program as the pilot. So again
there's all these insues coming through where we do have
a probably something we could do better at a mature
age apprentices We get a lot of our occasions from

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people over twenty one, which means unfortunately can't be paid
on a junior wage.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
So they have to be played to get adult way.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (53:11):
Yeah, And so that's.

Speaker 17 (53:12):
About fifteen dollars more per hour for a twenty one
year old in a first year apprenticeship as opposed to
a junior So that's a big impost on an employer.
And frankly, you know, we don't have many hosts who
are able to make that difference up, so government support
in that area I think, you know, they'll be considering
it for all those kinds of things will bring people through.

(53:33):
We actually get lots of applicants through our group training
organization for people who want to be apprentices but they
just don't meet those requirements around car license.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Well, Stephen Knight, we have Blair Boy Education and Minister
listening and I'm sure you'll comment on what you had
to say. That was Steven night Essay, Executive Director of
the Housing Industry Association. Minister, good morning to you.

Speaker 22 (53:56):
Good morning Graham.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Now your education, Training and skiol ULLs Minister. I know
a lot is being done from a government level to
make apprenticeships boost the role of tradees. Tell us what
you're doing.

Speaker 22 (54:11):
Yeah, and there are some pretty unique things that are
happening in South Australia and Steven touched on some of those, Graham,
and I'd point to the most recent announcement we made
around announcing a pilot of fast tracking some apprenticeships, which
is something that isn't appening anywhere else in Australia. Will
be the first place to do it. And there's about
seven different areas and they include carpentry, which is obviously

(54:31):
topical for Steven and the HIA, but also things like
commercial cookery, painting and decorating, civil construction, and a couple
of certificate threes in engineering. So in the case of
carpentry though and commercial cookery, they are four year apprenticeships.
Currently carpentry we would be as part of the pilot
with a thousand apprentices dropping it down by a year

(54:52):
to thirty six months, which is a pretty big reduction.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Would there any compromise though, Minister doing that no good question.

Speaker 22 (55:00):
The reason that we've done it in this kind of
pretty i think, cautious and deliberate way to actually just
pilot it is to make sure that there aren't any
unforeseen consequences in terms of the quality of the skills
and the quality of the trades person coming out of
that apprenticeship. And we're confident with these seven areas that
we can do that. But well, what we'll do is

(55:22):
once the trial is finished and we've had those thousand
or so go through, we can then have a look
and make sure that there weren't things that they didn't learn,
that there weren't shortcuts and things like that. But we
are confident that it can be done in these areas,
and as Stevens said Graham. You know, extra a whole
year off, a four year apprenticeship makes a very big
difference in terms of how fast we can get them through,

(55:44):
which is great for employers, great for us, you know,
the state's goals in terms of having any new homes
we want to build, but also great for the apprentice
because it means they're out earning a qualified trades person
or adult wage much sooner than they would have been otherwise.
So I know, all the other states and territories in Australia,
we're looking very closely at what we're doing here to see.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
How it goes. Do you think there's been a stigma
regarding taking on a trade now I've been talking earlier.
It seems to be in government policy, federal government policy
for twenty or thirty years. You know, you've got to
get a degree. You know, you have to get a degree.
Tertiary education is what it's all about. And almost you know,
people looking down their noses at trades where when it
comes to the unemployment line there are more people with

(56:26):
degrees on the unemployment line than there are tradees.

Speaker 22 (56:29):
I think I couldn't put it better than how you've
just put it. That's exactly right. I think we are
paying the price now in a time in South Australia's
history where we've got these great job opportunities, you know,
where we've had the nation's lowest unemployment and led to
concept State of the State's report for the first time
is ever because there are good things happening. There are

(56:50):
big projects online or coming online, like a new women's
and children's hospital or NonStop North South throw whatever. It
might be great job opportunities, but the thing is the
areas in which we need real growth in terms of
skills more heavily weighed towards a trade pathway now than
a university one. But what we've done is for decades
we've disincentivized people to take up that pathway because we've

(57:13):
basically told them subtly and sometimes and not subtly, that
that should be a second option. First option should be university.
That's certainly what I was told. And I went to
a high school that used to be a technical school,
and it was still the message to me was, you know,
you should be aiming for the highest atar school you
can and then getting into a course that that high
atr school will allow you to get into it. UNI

(57:33):
and those choosing a trade, whether it's a spark, you're
a plumber, that's the option you do if you're not
good at the academic subjects. And unfortunately now we're in
a position where we need to actually encourage young found
Australians to do the opposite to what we told their
parents and their grandparents should happen. So we're pushing against
the tide of us having, like you said, look down
and look down our noses at these kind of professions

(57:55):
and we need to change that.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
We were talking to Jacob, the third year apprentice and
he's but who's doing a carpentry apprenticeship, and he has
visions already of when he's completed his apprenticeship, working on
the tools for a while, then setting up his own business.
So I mean, you know, there's a great career path
there ahead of him.

Speaker 22 (58:12):
There is, and to be honest, it's stories like Jacobs
that will actually inspire other young people to take that path.
Now three three and a bit years into being the
Minister for Education, Training and Skills, Graham, I am more
realistic now about the ability of a politician and a
suit to tell a year nine student what they should
do with their life than I ever have been. It
doesn't go down particularly well, but I see the reaction.

(58:35):
You know, a year nine or year ten student might have,
male or female, through hearing from someone like Jacob about
why he did it and the fact that he's loving
it and what his plans are, their eyes absolutely light
up and they think I can do that. It's getting
those stories out there, and particular stories of young women
doing it in areas where it's been male dominated, because
it's hard for young women to say, you want to

(58:56):
I see myself doing this job that I've never seen
a woman do before. But we've got something like two
percent of the billiing in construction workforce might be a
bit big is women, and if we're actually going to
meet our job targets, we're going to have to increase
that number.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Minister, thanks for input today. I appreciate it. That's the
Blair Boyer Education, Training and Skills Minister. Our segment on tradees.
If you're a trade or thinking about becoming a trade
give us a call, tell us what your thoughts are.
Eight double two to three double O double oh. We'll
be back after news headlines five double A Mornings with
Gram Goodings twenty six to eleven on five double. A

(59:31):
need more trades, need to pay apprentices of wage they
can live on. So many easier jobs are there that
pay way more for younger people. Yes, they are learning,
but yeah, a fair point, Steve. You would be a
bit frustrated if you've got your mates earning a lot
more than you.

Speaker 20 (59:45):
But I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Stick with your trade and not far down the track
you'll be way earning way more than your your friends.
And then if you set up your own business, you're
often laughing. Good luck to you. When you go to university,
it cost you money. You have a big debt to
pay off. Also, you're not earning any money being at university,
but when you become a trade on the job, you're
earning money straight away, so you're four years ahead financially

(01:00:08):
from the people that choose university. There are lots of
things to consider, aren't there. But becoming a trade there
should be no stigma about it because we need trades.
They perform a vital role. I'm always in awe when
you have someone come and do a little bit of
work with you, a little bit of carpentry work, a
little bit of plumbing, you're stampching a that's good, that's
very good. And electricians and the like they can work miracles.

(01:00:30):
Now I look back and stand back in awe. At times,
well ahead of the G seven summer, there are calls
that Australia's critical minerals can play a major role on
the world stage. To tell us about it, my next guest,
Monash University Resources Engineering Professor mohen Yellaschetti, Professor.

Speaker 19 (01:00:49):
Good morning to you, Good morning, thanks for each of us,
not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Now, I'm very interested to hear more about this. We
know Australia is a resource rich country and we're probably
mishandling our resources to some degree. But what role are
you saying we can play, particularly this G seven summit.

Speaker 10 (01:01:08):
Thanks.

Speaker 19 (01:01:09):
I think it's a very important question. And as you
rightly said in your introduction, we've got plenty of resources.
If you look at just for example, the battery minerals,
there about ten important minerals that are critical for battery building,

(01:01:29):
let's say, and in Australia we've got all ten of
them in very very large quantities. And we are the
only country if you look at compared to China, Brazil
or even the US we are the only country which
perhaps has highest percentage of known resolves that are required
for battery making. And not only that, if you look

(01:01:51):
at rare elements, which is one of the highly contested
issue currently as the trade war escalates, we have about
only six percent of worlds total resolves identified, although China
has about forty percent of that. We are looked upon
as one of the reliable supplayers and partner in supplaying

(01:02:16):
these raw materials that underpin most modern technologies. So yes,
we are not playing up to our potential. There's so
much room for us to kind of you know, play
a greater role, bigger role.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
So with these crucial minerals, are you suggesting that we
should just quarry them and send them off shore or
should we be more involved in the production side of things.

Speaker 19 (01:02:41):
That's sutain another important question which is being discussed quite
a lot. So I think we need to have multi
pronged approach with our partners and allies. We should be doing,
you know, partial processing of these battles on shore. And

(01:03:03):
also there are models like for example Linus they mine
in Western Australia and their process in Malaysia. But now
US government is thinking to set up a processing facility
in Texas, and the same with Australian Strategic Minerals which
has got a mine in New South Wales in Doubles

(01:03:26):
and they process in Korean factory. So again now a
SMS stuck a big deal with one of the US
companies where they're going to supply some of the finished
railers magnets to the company in the US. So yes,
in the shot to medium some we should look up

(01:03:48):
with you know, partnering without partners but in the long
term probably we should also be doing on showing some
of these processing facilities. And one point is surely thinking
in that direction.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
We possess a lot of these critical minerals as you've suggested,
they are available in other countries too, So what do
we need to do to stay ahead of the race?

Speaker 19 (01:04:10):
I think what distinguishes us from rest of the world
is our EHG standards are one of the world class
and our efficiencies of METS sector is one of the
unparalleled in a tent because our productivity is very high
and we can remain very competitive, except you know, China

(01:04:33):
is an outlier from that point of view. So now
government is kind of government has set up are at
least planning to set up a national reserve, which is
with one point to be an initial investment, which means
that is going to provide a lot of security and
assure assurance to many many critical mineral mining and processing

(01:04:57):
companies in the country which are mostly you know, juniors
to meet your companies, so there's more of such government
support is needed. But in the same time, now when
Primistry is reaching out to his counterparts in from G
seven countries, perhaps the more investments into critical mineral assets

(01:05:21):
is one thing that he could surely discuss. But also
off take agreements for our miners to secure lanesome contracts.
So yes, multiple ways government can help change the game
in this space.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Professor, great to chat, thanks for your time to that.
That's Professor Meanti Monasch University. He's a resource engineering professor,
suggesting that we can make a big impact on the
world stage regarding our minerals resources, critical minerals that the
world really needs. The United States identify around fifty critical minerals,

(01:06:01):
Japan about thirty five, and many countries are looking to
Australia as a reliable and responsible supplier. But we don't
want to lose control of our resources and maybe we
should instead of just shipping them off and becoming the
world's quarry, set up processing hubs here so we can
value add What are your thoughts? Eight double two to
three double DOUBLEO is the number to ring from the

(01:06:22):
text line Graham. Isn't it time to stop these so
called football experts from spreading lies and make them report
who told this rubbish? Kara keeps saying I don't divulge
my sources. Well, it's time she fessed up. She has
caused this subject to rear its ugly head again. She
needs to resign now over this later story. June, thank
you for that. I don't think that will happen. That's

(01:06:43):
the how she makes the money, isn't it. This is
the story that came out if you're not aware of it,
South Australian borns and killed a superstar Nassaiah Wanganeen Miller
will not play for the Adelaide Crows if he is
to request a trade home at the end of the
twenty twenty five AFL season. They are the claims of
Caroline Wilson, who revealed on Monday night that the in
demand indigenous defender would be uncomfortable at the Crows after

(01:07:06):
a racism incident that dates back to twenty twenty one. Well, Caro,
eat your words. Her opinion has been shot down in
flames by Wanganeen Miller himself and very own Tom Wren
reported on it this morning.

Speaker 23 (01:07:21):
So my understanding is that Wanganeen Miller has initiated that
conversation and has wrung texts and said I want you
to hear it from me categorically that there is absolutely
no issue with you with me and you know, with
a potential decision moving forward, me coming to the Adelaide
Football Club. So he is I think the air has

(01:07:44):
totally been cleared and that is totally fine between those
two players.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
So that's Tom Wren on the five Double A Breakfast
show this morning, shooting down Caroline Wilson's claim. Of course
she won't reveal her sources out as a journal I
wouldn't expect her to, but she should, if so, fall
on a sword and admit that she was totally wrong
on this. She dug a heels in after there were
it was refuted by Wanganeen Miller's manager, Ben Williams said

(01:08:17):
that was not true at all. She dug a heels
in and said, well, maybe Wanganeen Miller didn't tell his manager.
Can you believe that? No, I can't believe that. But anyway,
she dug a heels in. But now Wanganleeon Miller has
actually rung text Walker to say, look, text there are
no issues. So where Wanganeen Miller ends up, we don't know,

(01:08:39):
but we've put that to bed. Caroline Wilson, you were wrong.
He double two three double o. Graham, Tom said, my understanding,
that's Carrow's way of having no responsibility. Well, Tom, he
just used that phrase, I think, but Tom knows. Good morning.
Graham just wanted to take you to task on the
advice you were giving apprentice tradees early, stating that if

(01:09:00):
they were to start their own business they would be
doing great. Not sure if you actual wording that wasn't it,
But anyway, many don't understand how hard it is to
run or own a small business. Your day doesn't end
when you head home. For many, it just starts with invoicing,
paying wages, if your employee, staff, insurance that need to
be paid, vehicles to be maintained, the list goes on.
For many, it would be beneficial for them to work

(01:09:21):
for wages and stay employed by another business. It's not
a walk in the park, no, Louise, I take that
on board. I agree entirely. But many young savvy people
who take on an apprenticeship and become a carpenter or
a plumber or an electrician do it for a number
of years, learn the trade and then go out on
their own. And I hear many, many success stories, and

(01:09:44):
more power to them too. I have a friend who
has a son training as an apprentice plumber. He's been
treated shockingly by his employer. He has since left that one.
He left because he was sent on jobs he was
not qualified to do. His employer wanted him to cease
going to trade school so he could work on the
job job. He used to come home absolutely distressed. Apparently
this is common in the industry. According to him, he

(01:10:05):
has since found an employer that allows him to complete
his apprenticeship qualifications. I was at a loss to advise
him who he could complain to being young. He didn't
want to make a fuss. Thank you for that, fran
I appreciate that. And that is a question. Who does
a young person complain to? Who does he notify that,
who is being apprenticed to is the employer is not

(01:10:27):
doing the right thing. So if anybody listening can tell us,
what is the course of action. If you're doing an
apprenticeship you're being harshly treated by your employer, what course
of action do you have? Let's know eight double two
to three double O double oh back shortly five double
A Mornings with Graham Goodings eleven to eleven and five
double A. Good morning to you. There used to be

(01:10:49):
an apprenticeship board that you could complain to, but I
don't know they still exist, says a Texter. That's a
good question. I did believe there was an apprenticeship board.
Does it still exist? Let's find out. Surely, as a
journalist you should call the players involved, which Caro said
she didn't. Caroline is certainly not letting the truth get
in the way of a good story. Thank you for that, Andrew.
Regarding Caroline Wilson, she's been proven to be wrong many

(01:11:11):
times in the past. She doesn't deserve any airtime. All
she does is stir the pot to see what reaction
she gets. Thinks that's the role of many sports journalists
these days, to stir the pot to be bigger than
the game itself. What are your thoughts, Mike, good morning.

Speaker 15 (01:11:27):
Oh, good morning, Graham.

Speaker 24 (01:11:28):
Loving this rain.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
It's beautiful, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
Bring it on?

Speaker 15 (01:11:31):
It's amazing Up near Montacute here the kangaroos are out
in full force eating all the green.

Speaker 20 (01:11:36):
So that's a good thing, lovely to see.

Speaker 15 (01:11:39):
Look previous life as a private investigator and still licensed,
I was dealing with this sort of stuff constantly on
a daily basis. So to give use of today some
seal or anyone, we're not being ages anyone, some clear
understanding of where they sit legally, especially if they are apprentices.
You've got two factors at handy, You've got the safe

(01:12:00):
work say hotline you can call, and you've got the
fair work on bootsman. Okay, So straight away we know
that if an apprentice is entering a work site and
it's not capable of doing that job, we're dealing with
safe work essay compliance. And then we've got other issues
of fair work. So is the job suitable? Is the

(01:12:22):
job capable? Is the job understanding? So potentially the employer
at hand, based on what you said earlier, has breached
two big laws and can be fine. Now on your program,
you have some great lawyers. I won't name them, of course,
but if we listen to their adverts, there really good advertisers.
They can help the employee and a system. And there's

(01:12:46):
even an EAP that you can go to, a government
EAP that will help apprentices. If we just google safe
work essay, there is a EAP that will help.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
What's it's like.

Speaker 15 (01:13:00):
Employment assistance program?

Speaker 10 (01:13:02):
Okay, yeah, help with Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:13:04):
And they have internal law structure that helped young employees
and again not being agents, and apprentice can be thirty,
forty years of age or.

Speaker 22 (01:13:12):
Even fifty years of age.

Speaker 15 (01:13:14):
There's a lot of older people getting into plumbing and
electrical but they will help guide them through and basically
spell out the laws. The employer would have to then comply.
If they don't, it's a serious fine, especially if they
have to stand up in front of a.

Speaker 16 (01:13:28):
Small claims court.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
You can understand a young apprentice being loath to take
any action. I mean, they're being employed, they want to
do the right thing, they don't want to sort of
step out of line, and yet they're being mishandled, mismanaged
and ill treated, so they might be loath to approach
the Safe Work Commission. Can they do that with anonymity.

Speaker 16 (01:13:50):
Of course they can.

Speaker 15 (01:13:51):
It's a phone call now, and you can even provide
your details anonymously with no problem whatsoever. Unfortunately, there is
an internal investigation that happens quite quick based on the
scenario or how in depth the danger is involved around
the workplace when that happens. Obviously, if you're the only
employee that is an imprent apprentice, the employer may get

(01:14:14):
their backup or cease your contract, and they have the
right to cease your contract of employment as well based
on these issues. But still the employee has the right
to keep fighting for their rights and it's taken to court,
even though the employee could potentially become redundant from it
under gross misconduct. A lot of employers do provide that.

(01:14:39):
Then you know, there's still further actions that the employee
can take to make sure that looked after.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
That's excellent, Mike, thanks for the input, really appreciated. Eight
double two three double o doublo is the number ring.
There's some advice for young apprentices who and we do
we're getting quite a bit of feedback from young apprentices
who are finding and not so young apprentices who are
finding their employers are ill, treating them, mistreeing them, virtually
using them as a cash cow, and that is just

(01:15:07):
not on. So you can get in touch with safe
Work essay or fair work say eight double two three
double o double the numbered ring. Stephen Polaris. Casey has
phoned in Stephen Polaris, the former DPP who joins us. Now, Stephen,
good morning to you. Stephen, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:15:29):
Yes, I'm commenting about the attorney's recent announcement about games
in the street and his sure solution. Yes, it's not
only disappointing, it's uninformed in its one dimensional. It's uninformed
because when RSI didn't know the facts about how frequency
these things were happening, and he didn't know where they

(01:15:51):
were happening. It's one dimensional because he's simply offering virtually
an unprovable offense of recruitment, which means that one person
will say he recruits with me, the other person will
say no, I didn't, and you won't get anywhere trying
to prove that. What we need to hear from the
attorney is how significant are the gangs in Adelaide, where

(01:16:13):
are they occurring and what damage has been done. We
don't want to go back to the old reck and
pack them and stack them of previous governments. It must
be a multi faceted solution. There must be alternities offered
to kids other than to run the street. And if
they're serious, they'll spend money on youth programs including sport

(01:16:33):
and education, jobs and job training and give them help
in leaving the gang. There's simply no strategy to disband
the gangs or help them. It's just a punishment and
that's not good enough.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
So we're looking at I mean, the headline comes out
and they're looking at the overall picture. Outlaw motorcycle gangs
is the headline tough new measures the government is considering.
You're saying that they're pretty much coming at it from
the wrong angle.

Speaker 10 (01:17:01):
It's puffing smoke. It's blowing smoke in people's faces because
when you examine what it is, in fact, there's are
not motorcycle gangs. And you may recall that I had
something to do with those laws when they first were instigated.
There's are not motorcycle gangs. Gangs is a pejority word
in any case, but I can see that there can
be offenses which groups of young fellows are in gangs,
that's right. But what we need to do is understand

(01:17:24):
the size of the problem. How big is it, how
much money do we need to spend on it? And
let's get away from this ridiculous recruitment offense as being
the solution to it. It simply is not.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Stephen Polaris, Sir, thanks so much for your time. Stephen Polaris,
former DPP. It's seven minutes two eleven on five double
a high Grahm. Same frustration with retails. Sick of going
to stores and seeing products at full price compared to
online advertised. When asking sales assistant, they say must order
through their website online to get that price. It cannot

(01:17:55):
be given to people that come into the store stores.
I shop for other people that to have this happened Kmart,
Target and our cheapest chips. We don't get it and
as per conversation with sales assistant gives people a job too.
If customers go in store and no scams because keeping
or kept personal and financial details are kept when online
or postage damage or missing. Interesting difference between stores with

(01:18:18):
their online sales and in store sales. Why shouldn't you
be able to buy it at the same cheaper price?
When you go in store. That doesn't seem right to
me as a teacher in their thirties who still doesn't
know what they really want to do, as teaching isn't
a sustainable career for another thirty years. It is disgusting
how hard university is pushed for almost every student. School

(01:18:40):
based apprenticeships are such a great way of getting into
the real world while still developing other skills that the
later years of schooling do provide. But there are still
horror stories of the young people being bullied treated so
poorly on a work site that they can't stay on. Yeah,
good on your kJ thank you for that. Yeah, And
this is the issue coming through and it's sad to

(01:19:01):
hear that so many young people doing apprenticeships are so
poorly treated. A double two to three, double O double
oh is my number. We're going to take a break
for news. Then after the news it's Men's Mental Health
Week or not mental health Week, just generally in the
men's health week, and pelvic health is what we're going
to look at. Pelvic health. Coming back shortly five Double

(01:19:23):
A Mornings with Graham Goodings six past eleven and five
Double A. Andrew says, did you see the size of
the boat Greta Tundberg was trying to deliver so called
humanitarian Aidian you'd be able to carry more on your
family suv and it has to have been nothing more
than a publicity stunt.

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
Would that be right? Surely not?

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
GG Norway has apparently managing or are apparently managing their
natural resources, especially their fuel deposits, better than Australia and
always population is just over six million, but of the
petrol barser it's quite expensive. Well, I see Adelaide Universe.
He's appointed a new vice chancellor. The Adelaide University Transition
Council has unanimously resolved to appoint Professor Nikola Phillips as

(01:20:07):
the new Vice Chancellor of the Adelaid University. She joins
Adlaide University from the University of Melbourne, where she's currently
the PROVO and has served as both acting and interim
Vice Chancellor. With some thirty years of experience in the
higher education sector across Australia and the United Kingdom, so
a new vice chancellor for Adelaide University. A double two three,

(01:20:30):
double DOUBLEO is my number, and I'd love to hear
from you. Well, this is men's Health Week and it's
gone pretty much below the belt. Contotence Health Australia is
calling on men in Australia to break the silence. Let's
find out more about it from Jim Cooper, Continence Health
Australia CEO. Jim, good morning to you, Good morning Graham.

(01:20:50):
Men's health something we just don't really like to talk about,
isn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:20:54):
Yes, I agree, and so we're using this opportunity of
men's health work to raise awareness and encourage men of
my age groups, mean in their fifties. First thing is
to consider having a regular health check with your GP.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
And what I mean we're talking particular continents. What issues
are we talking here?

Speaker 18 (01:21:16):
Well, Continents Health Australia where we look after the health
for confidence issues for Australians of all ages. But this
week we're concentrating on men and it's all about bladder
and bowel control and it can be just slight loss
of control or very serious loss of control. So particularly
men have had prostate issues often suffer confidence issues after operations,

(01:21:42):
and then it can also be an effective aging of course,
but it's not always agents. It can be men of
all ages.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
How many men would be affected.

Speaker 18 (01:21:50):
In Australia. Our statistics show that there's two point four
million men in Australia and all age groups from young
men all the way up to older Australians, so two
point four millions, so probably about eight the scent of
the population. It's very very widespread, and continence issues are
a bit of a sleeper in the Australian health scene

(01:22:14):
that they're very very prevalent. They're just not talked about
very much. And that's why we're encouraging men to start
first by going and seeing your GP.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
And that's the issue, isn't it. Men don't talk about
but women get together and I talk over a whole
range of things, including their health. Where no man to
go up and say to his mate, I've got this
in continence problem. You know a team of pants occasionally.
I mean, no blow could say that to another bloke.

Speaker 18 (01:22:41):
No, no, this is the issue, and that we start
from a point of embarrassment. I think our big message
at comment self Australia is that if you actually go
and ask some professional advice, you can usually improve your
situation markedly, and you shouldn't have the attitude of there's
nothing I can do about it. I'll just live with it,

(01:23:01):
and I'll just put up with it. There are many
many things that you can do to manage your condition
and maybe even get completely on top of it. So
I myself had I have my annual health check next week,
and I'm a big believer and encourage all of my
friends go and have a blood test and then go
and see and walk through the results with your GP.
And you just don't know what early results you might

(01:23:25):
be able to get on top of a bow condition
or a prostrate issue.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
It's a very very.

Speaker 16 (01:23:30):
Handy thing to do with your GP.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Well, as you say, it could be something quite simple
or could be serious. Either way, if you go to
your GP, you can find out and do something about it.

Speaker 25 (01:23:40):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 18 (01:23:41):
And another recommendation we have is that contident self. Australia,
we have this fantastic national helpline we call it and
it's a free telephone service and so if you're embarrassed
and you don't know where to start, you can call
our national helpline which is one eight hundred double three
double zero row double six. We've got very experienced nurse

(01:24:04):
Continent specialists who are available Monday to Friday and they
can take very long phone calls, and we often get
feedback from people saying, thank Heavans, I called you. I
just didn't know where to start, and you've helped me
go in the right direction. So I can't recommend our
National Continence Helpline more. I think it's a great service.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Yeah, So what you're effectively saying is that they're becoming
many men out there listening right now who have been
going through this issue and it's a real problem, and
they're not doing anything about it. So they're living a
miserable life when there's probably a pretty rational and reasonable solution.

Speaker 18 (01:24:40):
Yeah, there's often a reasonable solution. And what we find
is if you don't do anything about it, what it
starts to do is it just subtly starts to affect
your confidence in going out and about and it elevates
your anxiety. You worry about it, thinky about it. And
so we do know that there's quite a lot of
anxiety conditions that attached to this, and just the act

(01:25:02):
of actually intervening and saying no, I'm not going to
put up with this anymore. There may be something straightforward
that you can do, and continents, there's no one expert
to diagnosis continents, which is why we say go to
your GP first, but often there's a series of specialists
that your GP can refer you on to and diagnose

(01:25:23):
exactly what's happening with you personally and you'll be on
your way to a better life.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
But what age can these continents issues start taking place?

Speaker 18 (01:25:33):
Oh, look, what we're finding is people think confidence is
an old person's issue in Australia, and our research shows
that it really emerges from childhood and can follow through
with young people and all the way through middle age
and into old Australians. So the statistics are quite interesting
that it's an equal spread through men of all ages

(01:25:57):
and so often people who are getting in sport and
they're exerting themselves heavily. When men get older and they
might have prostrate challenges as a classic area, and then
even older again men men do need to exercise also
their pelvic floor muttons, and we think that's a woman's problem,

(01:26:17):
particularly if you've had children. But pelvic floor exercises can
help a lot. And this is one of the easy
to implement approaches and interventions you can talk with your
doctor about that don't involve surgery. But if you can
improve your control of your bladder in your bowl simply
by doing pelvic floor exercise.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Sounds like good advice and on this Men's Health Week
we should all be talking about it.

Speaker 18 (01:26:42):
Yeah, that's right. If one out of fifty of your
listeners thinks I'm going to go and see my GP
and they find out something they didn't know about their health,
we've been a success. So please go and do something
about it.

Speaker 25 (01:26:56):
Is my message.

Speaker 20 (01:26:58):
Good on you.

Speaker 18 (01:26:58):
Jim great to chat Yeah, thanks Graham, great chatty.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
Jim Cooper, Continents Health Australia CEO.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
Yet do it, Just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Go and see your GP. If you've got any issues.
And when you get to a certain age about fifty
plus as a bloke, go and have a regular check up.
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as we have the lead up to the Best of
South Australia Dinner, well who gets the Dog? There are
major new law changes for separating couples as of this week.
Separating Australian couples will need to navigate a very different

(01:28:52):
legal landscape, including how the courts now decide who keeps
the pets. I've never been involved in this type of
situation and it's one thing that what about the kids,
how did we work out with the kids? But who
gets the pets? Who decides that? A suite of major
reforms to the Family Law Act took effect yesterday, introducing
new rules around property division, family violence, financial transparency and

(01:29:17):
for the first time pets. The changes apply to all
family law matters that haven't yet gone to a final hearing,
meaning many current cases could be impacted. A lawyer says
this is the most significant overhaul of family law with
the respect to financial cases that we've seen in over
a decade and will change the outcome of thousands of separations.
So that is one thing. Have you ever considered that

(01:29:39):
what happened when you split up? When you were divorced.
Did you have a dog or a cat or budgerigar?
How did you decide? Did one partner stand on one
side of the room and one partner stand on the
other a dog in the middle, and whichever person the
dog went to, they took the dog share custody. I've

(01:30:01):
got the dog at the weekend, you have it during
the week I'm smiling here. And it's a very serious
issue because who gets the pets? Because pets are family
after all. From the text line Peter mallanaskus listened to
the experts and the people, says Wendy many years ago.
I worked for the then Engineering and Water Supply Department.

(01:30:23):
We had our own machinery and personnel, so when land
was subdivided, all water and sewerage infrastructure was installed before
any houses were built. Later, the department was privatized and
millions of dollars of equipment sold for virtually nothing. No,
there is no longer people with all the knowledge left
regards pat I thought that was a prerequisite, going back,

(01:30:43):
not all that long ago, that if there was a
housing development built, all the infrastructure had to be in
the roads on, all the water and the sewerage infrastructure,
but apparently that is no longer the case. You can
build a housing is stay and worrying about you worry
about the sewage system. Later on, Hi Graham. Dropping apprenticeships

(01:31:07):
to three years will deliver young people with less skills.
There are qualified kids coming out now with their trade
papers but have not been taught properly with their host
I've got two apprentices who have joined our company that
can't install a door lock or a cavity slider large project.
Apprentices are mainly used as cheap labor and the dollar
kickback is so attractive. They are employed for the wrong reasons. Yeah,

(01:31:30):
we really hope that is going to be resolved because
apprentices are going to be the backbone of this country.
We need them so much. We really do well. The
ABC has plan to discontinue Q and A. This has
been in the wind for a week or so. The
ABC today announced they will end Q and A after

(01:31:51):
an outstanding eighty year's run eighteen year run and look
at new ways to facilitate discussion and elevate voices from
around the country. I'd like to talk about this at
some stage, maybe with a TV expert, because there was
a change here, because only this week we heard the
project was coming to an end on Channel ten. Were
you a project watcher? Where you were a Q and

(01:32:12):
A watcher? Did you tune in every week for Q
and A or every night for the project? What went wrong?
The Q and A was very popular eighteen years it lasted.
The project was around for a dozen or more years,
had an audience of one million, I believe, way back
in the early days, and then it gradually fell away.

Speaker 6 (01:32:31):
Why was it so?

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
I'll have to admit I was never a devor tee
of the project. Every now and again I'd tune in
and see something of interest, But I didn't like the
tenor of the style of the program. It just didn't
suit me. Maybe it was that the time slot didn't
suit me. But where is television heading? I like to
know your thoughts on it? When shows like Q and
A come to an end, the project comes to an end?

(01:32:55):
Is news and current affairs changing? Are our needs and
wants for television? Is it all about reality television and
sport these days? Seems to be That's what you can
get A fill of, plenty of sport, plenty of farmer
wants a wife and married with Children or What is
Married at First Sight? All those shows and the Voice
and under like. As you can probably tell, I'm not

(01:33:17):
a great deputee of them. I appreciate that a lot
of people like them, but now that it is starting
to eat into the news and current affairs area, I'm
a little bit more concerned. As I say, I wasn't
a devotee of the project, but I can see the
value in shows like that, because I think the more
shows that you have of that variety, the better it
is for everyone. We have more sources of information, more

(01:33:39):
sources of entertainment, and I think as important as anything else,
it's a damn shame when shows come to an end.
I think the project probably employed about fifty people in Melbourne.
They will be out of a job or maybe redeployed elsewhere.
So it is a sad time for the television industry.
It was like when at late Tonight was on Tea

(01:34:00):
and Adelaide and we had lots of shows like The
Curiosity Show and many other locally produced shows Fat Cat
and Friends and Humphrey Bear and Curiosity Show was just well,
you go on YouTube, there's still excerpts of it. It's
still regarded highly around the world, but we produced some
wonderful television here in Adelaide. Then it became centralized in
Melbourne and Sydney. Very little production was done outside of

(01:34:25):
the major capitals. It was a shame. So many wonderfully
talented people working in television just lost their jobs in
Adelaide because it was centralized in Sydney and Melbourne, and
the production was then taken away from the networks seven
and ten, nine, the ABC they outsourced them. So within

(01:34:46):
the networks people once again lost their jobs and these
shows were outsourced. So it's an ever changing landscape. And
then streaming comes online. Of course you have more sources
of entertainment. People say, you might have more sources of entertainment,
but the quality isn't any better than it was before.
So give us your thoughts on television. Do you like
the direction it's heading or not? Eight double two three

(01:35:08):
doublow is my number. The Premier, Peter Malinaskus, will this
afternoon announce the Labour Party's candidates for a host of
seats in the twenty twenty six state election. The party
is aiming to win some of Morphet held by the
Liberal Stephen Patterson, Marialta held by the retiring John Gardner,
Hartly held by the leader Vincent Tazia Phinis, David Basham's seat,

(01:35:29):
Bragg held by Jack Batty, and Colton held by Matt Cowdrey,
amongst others.

Speaker 6 (01:35:34):
So there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
I tell you what, if you wanted to get into politics,
you want to get into Parliament and you're a labor
leaning person, now's the time because it's almost guilt edge
and guaranteed that if you sit for Labor at this
next election, you'll get in because we have, unfortunately a
fairly mediocre opposition at this stage.

Speaker 24 (01:35:53):
Mark, good morning, Good morning Graham, and thanks for taking
the call the situation from my mind rejecting Q and A.
I was early listening to these, but over time they've changed.
I think part of the problem is the invasion of
political correctness. It has put the squeeze on and so

(01:36:14):
nearly anything that you really wanted the current current matters
to discuss is off the page because.

Speaker 16 (01:36:20):
You'll trigger someone.

Speaker 24 (01:36:22):
And I think it's a squeeze on free speech in
the background of that. Both good programs to kick off,
but they've changed, and I saw inside once the topic
of the night has political correctness changed comedy? And it
was quite sad because to a man and woman they
were saying, yes, it has. So I think it's a

(01:36:43):
bit sad that they're going But I think the reason
is political correctness has just gone mad.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
You've made You've made some really good points there, Mark,
Thank you for that. Some people have suggested that the
programs have moved to the left. Some are saying they've
become to work. What is your opinion why television current
affairs and news oriented shows disappearing? Seeson, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 14 (01:37:05):
I think your spot on why people have tuned out
pretty rapidly because they've become way too left, heavily influenced
by the letters of the album easy Campaign. You see
that through and through you get a biased opinion from
one side only.

Speaker 18 (01:37:20):
And don't forget Q and A and.

Speaker 14 (01:37:22):
ABC are publicly funded money from the government, so you
think their manage would be to give you an unbiased
view on most things. But when you're getting one biased
view extremely woke on all their topics they present to here.
I've only ever seen a few shows because I couldn't
sit through it, But whenever they had someone that was
disagreeing with them. The handpicked audience questioning was directed to

(01:37:45):
stick to that mantra. The project was probably a joke
and you think what they led with the Brittainy Higgins case,
didn't they and other irrelevant matters.

Speaker 18 (01:37:54):
So the fact they.

Speaker 14 (01:37:54):
Lasted so long it is amazing. And be careful to
anyone out there in the media that wants to follow
that work past. You know what you can ended up with,
good one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Jes Caesa, thanks for your input. So what are your thoughts?
Why have TV shows gone the way?

Speaker 6 (01:38:07):
They have?

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
No coincidence? Andrew says, the Project and Q and A
have come to an end. They were both the two
woke and people have had enough five double A Mornings
with gram Goodings And so to the final half hour
of the show. Well, Jenny Road, you are frequenter lovely Spot,
isn't it? Love Gleneld Beach, the whole area down there. Well,

(01:38:30):
there's been some conjecture, confusion and concern about proposed changes
to the area. The council met last night passed the
motion on the controversial plans to cut parking spaces and
slash the speed limit. This is what the City of
Holdfast Bay Mayor Emandu Wilson had.

Speaker 26 (01:38:47):
To say, we went out to consultation, we had over
two thousand people respond and overwhelmingly they wanted to put
pedestrian safety as a priority for counsel. So we're going
to be putting in a set of traffic light at
the corner of Jety Road and Mosley Street. We're going
to have to lose fourteen car parks from that intersection alone.

(01:39:09):
Then we're going to be losing another seven car parks
up and down Jety Road because of compliance issues the
road rules have changed in the last decade or two,
and then four will be lost for greening. So we're
losing a total to the whole precinct of twenty five
car parks, which is less than one percent of all
of the available car parks for the Jedi Road precinct.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Hold Fast by Mayor Amanda Wilson speaking with David and
Wild this morning, and this is what you had to
say about the reaction from businesses in the area.

Speaker 12 (01:39:38):
Lot of business has been telling you about how the
council has managed this project.

Speaker 26 (01:39:41):
So this original motion came from the Jedi Road Traders
Committee back in twenty seventeen. So the Traders were really
wanting to have an upgrade for the street. There's been
as you would imagine, there's over three hundred and thirty traders.
They've all got differing opinions. One of the traders that
were there last night for the council wedding, he wanted

(01:40:02):
us to shut Moseley Square and have it pedestrianized the
whole thing. So there's a range of opinions. But we
went out to count as sensis over two thousand people
and overwhelmingly they they chose Option A, which is keeping
Mosley Street sorry, Collie Terrace and Durham Street open and
having chatterch lights at.

Speaker 13 (01:40:22):
The intersection there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Well, i'd like to know what you think of the changes.
Give us a call A double two to three, double
O double OW is the number to ring. Maurice Dunstall
is the whole Fast Bay Resident Alliance member and he
joins us now, Maurice, good morning.

Speaker 25 (01:40:35):
To you, Yeah, good morning, How are you well?

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
Thanks? What is your reaction to the changes?

Speaker 25 (01:40:41):
Well, firstly, with the survey, there was no option to
do nothing, so there was an option one, two and
three and each each one of the options had lights
at the intersection of Moseley Street. One of them. Option one,
which was the least car parks to lose and the
least amount of work to be done, had a has

(01:41:02):
a scramble crossing, you know, like our Barns crossing. We
can cross from corner to corner, and that of course
embraces a few of the car parks area. Nobody wants
to lose a car park. It's been quite manipulated this survey.
There were I went into the consultation area, which is

(01:41:24):
a disused restaurant, and it was almost like standover tastic.
So I had people crowding around me and shuffle me
towards the door. Because I'm the president of the whole
Fastba Residence Allowance and we've been supporting the tenants, the
traders and the residents and so on. So they had
this survey, but before they did the survey, they've already

(01:41:45):
put our rates up to pay for this. I mean,
the whole thing is ludicrous. They've got Counselor John Spedley,
who's the I believe is the presiding officer for the
audit Committee. I don't know, I don't know how they
can possibly do any of this. The whole thing is debarcle.
What they haven't mentioned to you is that they were
going to move the buses from Collie Terrace around to

(01:42:08):
Mosey Street, where you've got people sitting there in eating premises.
That didn't work. We've got signatures there and now they've
moved it across to the car park. Just down Mosey Street.
There's a car park on the right hand side is
a traveling south and I think there's about forty cars
park in there and that's going to be That was
the last I heard was that's going to be the

(01:42:28):
bus exchange, but we won't mention that, so there's another
forty car parks going missing there. I was told to
go and park up on top of Partridge Street and look,
that used to be used there, was used by teachers
from one of the local primary schools there. It was
just too far away, too exposed. And it's good that
it's there, it's great, but it's not You park out

(01:42:51):
the front of your probably one of the best, arguably
one of the best vegetable shops in Adelaide and you've
got a couple of vegetables. You're not going to walk
back there to the car park upstairs. It's just the
whole thing is ludicrous. I think that the survey is unverified.
I don't know who the independence were. I don't believe

(01:43:12):
it was run independently, but it was absolutely manipulated in
my eyes, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
And so there was no option for no change. Is
that what the residents would have preferred?

Speaker 25 (01:43:23):
Absolutely, one hundred percent, one hundred percent of our membership
have been they want no change. They would like to
see Some people have said, look, we'd like to see
people employed on their young people, you know, to come
along and paint it and maintain it and so on.
It hasn't been maintained. And they'd like to see a
pedestrian crossing at Nosey Street. Absolutely, we just spent had

(01:43:46):
a warm back crossing put in on Partridge Street. I
believe it was over three hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
where the average cost is under one hundred and fifty
and it's put in there. It's just other than school
dropping off and picking up time. That's where I believe
the mayor had children going to that school. That money

(01:44:07):
could have been spent on a crossing at Moses Street.
You don't have to lose car parks. At all these
traders they've got winter to put up with, you know,
in a tourist area. And if they have to widen
the foot paths, like the mayor said, down the Mosey Street,
because they've got so many people there, why do they
have to take away car parks to fit less people there.

(01:44:29):
I mean if the mayor, if it was us, I
would be proposing they're putting a business plan together to
take to the state government and say, look, can we
have free trams from Morphort Road, you know, work out
a gold coin token car parking with the sa JC.

Speaker 6 (01:44:51):
I like it.

Speaker 25 (01:44:52):
Yeah, well that was my idea. I got that from
they did at the other end, at the entertainment center
of the tram, and it just allows more people. All
the people from the east can just hop on the tram,
go down and do their shopping and so on, and
it's less cars and less cars. But I don't subscribe
to the fact that at all that there was an
overwhelming that people wanted pedestrian safety. Of course they do.

(01:45:18):
They don't want lights at the intersection of most street.
There is no other option. And the whole thing is
disgusting the way it's been run. And I can tell
you I had five people crowd around me in that
consultation area and move me out towards the door. It's
just terrible. Somebody needs to stand in here. We're all combining.

(01:45:43):
We're working with the landlords and the betrayers and the pedestrians,
and it needs to change. They need to backpedal. Take
it to the election. It's only next year. See how
good you are, See see how that's supported.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Might be too good on you, Marris, thanks for that.
Maurice Dunstorm Hoole fast Bayed Resident Alliance obviously not at
all happy with the move passed by the council last night.
The controversial plan cut parking spaces, slash the speed limit.
I don't know about you, but I don't live in
the area. I love Jety Road I love, but I

(01:46:19):
often would not go there because parking is too hard
and taking away even more spaces. Well there you go, Coln.

Speaker 27 (01:46:28):
Good morning, Oh, good morning ground Just in another topic
and the benefit of one of your callers, Caesar. Earlier,
the definition of work in the dictionary is alert to injustice, discrimination,
especially racism, so I think that has been hijacked a bit.

(01:46:50):
And also on Caesar's comment about balance, I would put
to him that balanced in the ABC is much much
better than any balance you see on sky News.

Speaker 25 (01:47:06):
Mob.

Speaker 27 (01:47:08):
You know, all right, you can be left or right
or center. But I would, I would say again, to
see that that. Uh, the Abbacy has tried to try
to aspire to balance and the mob on sky News
my goodness, me talk about the like and Andrew Bolt

(01:47:28):
and Chris Kenny and Peter Krevlan my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Well we all know which direction they're coming from, and
they do. If that's the way they want to project
their network. They've got every right to do that, don't they.

Speaker 27 (01:47:43):
Well, if it's their view, personal view. But I would
say their masters, their masters are higher. The Murdoch can
would be directing them too, wouldn't they.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Look, I have no idea, no idea at all.

Speaker 27 (01:48:00):
You let's ask Lachland one day, Graham.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
Well, I never speak with Lochland. He's never told me
what to do and what to say, so I say
pretty much what I want. But yes, this station is
owned by Lachlan Murdock. Happy to say that, but no
one's ever given me any direction. So it might be
different at sky News. I have no idea, but thanks
for you call good on your con Susie. Good morning
to you.

Speaker 5 (01:48:23):
Oh, good morning, Graham. I drive in the car every
morning from nine to twelve. I can't wait to hear you.
You're amazed. I can take your on there forever. Secondly,
the cause the call you, Graham. I wish they were
running the country. They're so smart and so intelligent.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
You're dead right. There's some pretty pretty savvy.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
Listeners, really really are Graham.

Speaker 20 (01:48:44):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
They come up with ideas and you think, wow, why
don't our politicians do that? Why don't they even consider that?

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
Every day I'm like, oh my god, please someone else
this country. I love my country, but it's just such
a disgrace what they're.

Speaker 19 (01:48:56):
Doing with everything.

Speaker 18 (01:48:57):
It is so depressing running it's just.

Speaker 5 (01:48:59):
Awful, absolutely awful. And your bosses at your five double age,
he's they've got it really right, and they with all
you guys. I mean, I've traveled around the country for
a few years and this five. I'm from Sydney, I'm
from the East Stainton, Copsaver and Byron Bay and this
this radio station down here is unbelievable. It's incredibly informative

(01:49:20):
as knowledge you men, men and you women. Sorry that
newsreaders host. You're incredibly smart and we're very, very lucky
to have you all, and please God never go away.

Speaker 14 (01:49:32):
Five double A.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
You're amazing. That's all I want to say from me.
But every day I go because I'm a nurse, and
I go travel around and they're all we got Braham,
and I go, oh, good, good good, what's.

Speaker 8 (01:49:43):
Happening this morning?

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
We get that excited. It's the callers and you, Oh
my god. We leaves leads us to believe we love
our country. We just think it's a disgrace to people
that are running at that's all.

Speaker 20 (01:49:56):
Just love you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
You're informed. Thank you, Graham.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
Thanks really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:49:59):
Dear.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
I love your sentiments, and thank you very much for
your compliments about the station. When we do our best.
Not everybody agrees with your opinions, Susie, but that's fine.
That's what we're here for. We want all opinions. But
your thoughts that some of our listeners should be running
the country. I agree entirely some of the thoughts put
forward by some of our listeners. And there's probably about

(01:50:20):
five or six names that I can think of that
I won't mention or embarrass them who have some incredible
ideas about all the way the country should be run.
Maybe our politician should be listening Maria, good.

Speaker 7 (01:50:32):
Morning, Good morning, gran Thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:50:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:50:36):
I agree with Susie. I listen to your station every
day and only because of you, so it is very smart.
I think you should be a politician. No, no, no, no,
but anyway, Darling, I live in the vicinity of Nick.
I live at Holles and got so many immigrants coming in.

(01:51:01):
There's more cars on the road, and then there are
what can I say, They're going to do the tramline
and it's a hole, a morphistry that'll be closed to
six months. So what is the traffic? Where is it
going to go? It's going to go down towards Gondelk
And have they thought about this? And even it's a

(01:51:24):
silly idea. I think they should have just lights and
not closing you know, that is it college Jens order,
I think. And then they've got to do a U turn.
A lot of people might know they've got to do
a U turn and go back. And at peak our
times doesn't matter which way you go, it's bumper to bumper.

(01:51:47):
It's course of school times. Morning times and people. Actually
it's so busy that actually goes where the random bounts
is the I love this. Don't let the other traffic
goes through. We can't have that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Have they thought about that?

Speaker 7 (01:52:06):
And car parks is hard to get one now?

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
Yeah, good on you Maria the for pointing that out. Yeah,
traffic around the Glenoga area is always going to be
difficult because it's a popular spot, there's no question about that.
Are they doing it the right way?

Speaker 13 (01:52:17):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
I guess time alone will tell back shortly.

Speaker 6 (01:52:20):
Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
As we enter the final minutes of the show today,
great time to introduce sir Lei Forrest will be on
this afternoon.

Speaker 20 (01:52:30):
Le It sounded like a beautiful acoustic guitar there you're
just strumming away. Well, yeah, I'll just put it down
for a moment. Actually it's Cornsy's guitar. He just oh, yes,
Well he should. I think we always should have sort
of instruments lying around just in case we need them.
That's short notice, which would be nice. Just before we
talk about the show, can we just recap our conversation
off here? Which one how good was Aaron Phillip's speech

(01:52:53):
last night.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
I played a little bit of it earlier. Yeah, she's
just an amazing person, amazing human being, one athlete, fabulous
with bullet and it was beautiful.

Speaker 20 (01:53:02):
Do you get emotional when other people get emotional? So
when you see Greg Phillips cry? I looked at Greg
Phillips and I thought, oh, here we go, you know, yeah,
there's something about that. I find it more not upsetting,
but more emotional when you see other like a big,
strong Hall of Fame, Ford, Adelaide Center, ha bad.

Speaker 6 (01:53:23):
Run through brick walls.

Speaker 20 (01:53:25):
That's right, A man's man and his daughter brings him
to tears. I'm like, goh, such a sweet relationship between
the daughter and it was so great. So yeah, very
quickly coming up on the show after one o'clock, we're
going to continue the chat you were discussing a little
bit earlier about the project and Q and A. Is
it the end of woke television? Steve Price is going

(01:53:45):
to join us to talk about that, whether it is
or not.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
He was the only one on the project that was
right of saying to that, right, they're all very lefty.

Speaker 20 (01:53:55):
Yeah, and I saw his take which was interesting, going
don't Dance on the Grave because on a hundred people
lost their jobs, which I do feel for, and you
know TV industry too. That's that's really hard. So I'm
sure there'll be the same kind of fallout for Q
and A. But it's interesting. Are are our taste changing?
Do you think? Is it just coincidence?

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
I think I think the tastes have changed dramatically, largely
brought about my streaming television and access to other news information.

Speaker 6 (01:54:19):
YEP.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
I don't know whether it's people going away from left
leaning shows. Maybe there is some aspect of that, but
I think people's tastes change. Fewer people are watching free
toware television than ever were before.

Speaker 20 (01:54:30):
I think there's a few shows people hate watch too.
They watch it because they despise it so much, and
then they want to want to be a fix. They
bring us the next day and talk about it. So
we will discuss that. The latest from LA coming up,
We've got two and two with real estate Richard Pasco
talking tech and a musical treat kind of your vintage.
I can imagine you and your lovely wife on the
dance floor. The Tina Turner show that's coming to the

(01:54:52):
Capri theater in Goodwood in a couple of weeks city limits.
That's it? Do you know? Do you know how to
do it?

Speaker 5 (01:54:56):
You know?

Speaker 20 (01:54:57):
Can we get Patrick to videotape you and put it
up on five double A Socials.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
On the dance floor? I am absolutely hopeless. Really, it's
like my singing book. I cannot sing, I can't hold
a note, I can't dance. So I'm not only entertainer.

Speaker 20 (01:55:10):
So you don't know the Madison, You don't know the
nut Bush.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
I've heard of it and I've seen it.

Speaker 20 (01:55:13):
Can you do the bus stop? What about he stood
a warp just to jump? Bilot said, Okay, I can
do that. I'll do that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
What about line dancing?

Speaker 20 (01:55:22):
Can you line dan? No, I'm trying to get you
some online content. I'll work something out a little bit twist.
I could do a favorite musician. Oh if I if
I was to see the Spotify top five for Graham Goodings,
who would it be?

Speaker 6 (01:55:35):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
John Lennon?

Speaker 20 (01:55:37):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
Maybe I mean the Beatles. I love the Beatles of
great John Lennon share coming to Adelaide soon too? You
know tomorrow. Significance of Tomorrow with Dune the twelfth is
that when he was shot nineteen sixty four. Oh, no,
the Beatles arrived in Adelaide, is that right? Three hundred
and fifty thousand people they estimate, stood outside the hotel,
the biggest reception they had anywhere in the world.

Speaker 20 (01:55:58):
And right from the airport all the way down anzac
Hiway in city. So, yeah, tomorrow is the day. Every
time we talk about it, people were there. It's amazing
how many people were there. I'm not sure whether they're
just fudging that story, but the crowd seems to grow
and grow and grow because I didn't realize there's someone
who wasn't around. I thought there was like one show,
but it turned out there were what four, yeah, two

(01:56:18):
on two days or something.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
Yeah, that's right, and it was Ringo Star wasn't there
of course because he was sick. He joined for the
later concerts. Jimmy Nichol. Jimmy Nichol was the amazing stories.
He arrived. Three hundred and fifty thousand people, Jimmy Nicolaire
and Ringo turned up and the next day Jimmy Nichol
was at Adelaide airport sitting all by himself. Nobody around head,

(01:56:41):
nobody cared. Don't you think the Lord Mayor should have
a bronze statue of Bob and the Beatles on the
balcony there at the town Hall. Now there's a suggestion.
This is another one of your crusades.

Speaker 20 (01:56:52):
I'm going to get you a king's birthday honor, and
I'm going to get you doing the Nutbush online. But
we should Bob Celebress on stage on nineteen sixty four
at the Beatles.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 20 (01:57:02):
That's extraordinary. So that would have been the second or
that would have been the biggest crowd after your How
many do you get for the Crows in ninety seven,
ninety eight, King.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Willie three hundred and fifty one thousand.

Speaker 6 (01:57:11):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
No, I don't have no idea. A lot of people,
a lot of people.

Speaker 20 (01:57:15):
All right, Well, they're coming up, excellent, good.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
On your Thank you Graham, Leith Forrest coming up this
afternoon after the one o'clock news. And if you have
memories of the Beatles in Adelaide, don't ring now, save
it till tomorrow. We might have a little piece on that.
Memories of the Beatles visit to Adelaide way back in
nineteen sixty four, a long, long, long time ago. Eight
double two three double O double is the number to

(01:57:38):
ring joining us now is Robert Farden Save the Festival
Plaza Alliance And no doubt you're wanting to comment Robert
on the movement regarding the new skyscraper that's been commissioned.
The Walker tar to Robert.

Speaker 8 (01:57:56):
Good Graham. No, it's been a big day down here
at Scott There is no decision yet. The decision will
be tomorrow afternoon. And we've had lots of pretty sophisticated
arguments around the architecture and shaping and tweaking it and
so forth, all of which seems to ignore the fact

(01:58:18):
that this building is just so huge, and you know,
we've got this huge office block basically hitting in the
middle of what was to be a civic plaza. There
is no surprise in that when we don't have any
huge hopes with SCAP because they'd look at the planning issues,

(01:58:40):
you know, and they've got to work with the code
as it is, and the the plany miss have changed
the code recently to a code amendment, you know, to
favor forty story development. So whether we have any success
with this one or not is an open question.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
So you don't think all is lost.

Speaker 8 (01:59:01):
Yet absolutely not absolutely not no, No, we're on the
beginning of this campaign. I mean there's so much there
are so many people around town, even developers are really
upset with the way all of this has been handled.
The big hope is the istraund Heritage Council, and we
think we'll get some sort of an answer there tomorrow. Graham.

(01:59:23):
That's bobcar the ex New Southwalest premier, shares that one
and that one is the real issue now, the real
issue being I mean, apart from you know, I guess
it's two issues. One is what we're doing to our plants.
There should be an open space like it is in
any other city around the world and full of people

(01:59:45):
at a reference dead eration squat. The other one is
the heritage jugment. You know that we're sitting in Adelaide.
We've got one of them. Potentially, it's a little bit
of an unknown fact, but you know, this is a
historic shired of global significance.

Speaker 15 (02:00:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Yeah, Robert, we're going to have to leave it their
timers against us. Thanks for your input. Save the Festival
Plaza Alliance. That's it for today. Thank you so much
for your participation. We'll be back tomorrow and do it again.

Speaker 20 (02:00:11):
Have a great day.

Speaker 6 (02:00:13):
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