Mornings with Graeme Goodings - 15 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, It's Friday. I hope we find you well
on this fifteenth day of August. Looks like we're heading
into a wet weekend. Wouldn't know. Looking out there at
the moment, looks pretty fine, but the forecast is rain
is on the way. On the show today, the iconic
Adelaide to Glenel tram is partially shout as you possibly
know and definitely know if you use it to regularly compute,

(00:21):
commute not compute. It'll be closed until late January twenty
twenty six. Major upgrade works are underway between South Terrace
and Moseley Square as part of the tram grade separation projects.
It aims to improve safety and reliability. We're all for that,
there's no doubt about it. But while buses are replacing
trams during the six month closure, not everyone is on board.

(00:43):
We've heard from disgruntled retailers on Jetty Road how it's
impacted their businesses, but to many who live along the
tram route also far from happy, and we'll speak to
one of them about it. What is the major concern?
The Jeffrey Epstein saga continues to haunt President Trump. He promised,
as you may recall that Jeffrey Epstein files would be opened,

(01:04):
but they remain sealed, despite Attorney General Pam Bondi's July
memo claiming no client list or blackmail material exists in
ruling Epstein's twenty nineteen death a suicide. There's growing outrage
among even Trump's base, the Mega supporters. It's fueling accusations
of a cover up. Sixty Minutes is running an investigation

(01:25):
into the story, and we'll speak with the media Adams
about that later this morning. Well, southa Stadia's most colorful
charity convoy, the Club Variety Club Bash is on the
road again. It's they seem to better themselves every single year,
don't they. The epic eight day journey is coming to
an end. I think it ends tomorrow and Variety SACEO

(01:45):
Mark McGill will join us a little bit later on
to tell us exactly where he is. The progress of
the Variety Bash, some of the exploits have gotten into
this year, and the money they're likely to raise. I
think they have well over one hundred cars taking part,
huge numbers of volunteers. It would be a logistical nightmare,
but it is something pretty special and it does so

(02:08):
much for the kids. Also on the show today, surviving
death and bouncing back while raising awareness for brain injuries.
We're going to speak with Melissa Hartman, a remarkable story
it's certainly worth listening to. Also on the show today,
the Adelaide Film Festival announces what movie will be opening
the night the festival this year and it's a real

(02:31):
coup for a local filmmaker. And we'll tell you about that.
And no doubt you're aware of the seven sensational South
Australians over seventy. We've been looking for seven in South
Australia and there are plenty of over seventies who have
made a major contribution. We've managed to find that down
to seven of them and we're going to meet the
first one today. A little bit later on this morning,

(02:52):
we have a double passed to give away to the
Royal Adelaide Show for the best caller of the morning.
And so much more happening in your call of course,
which take a priority. We want to hear from you
on eight double two three double oh. Well. As Australia
gears up for next week's economic summit, two leading economists
who have thrown a fresh idea into the national debate,

(03:13):
it's likely to send shock waves among many homeowners, if
not all homeowners. They think it's time to rethink how
we tax people who own their own homes. Peter Seminski
from the University of Technology in Sydney and Roger Wilkins
of Melbourne University. So the current system unfairly advantages homeowners
over renters. Their main target imputed rent. So I can

(03:35):
hear you saying what is imputed rent? Well, I'll tell you.
It's the concept that homeowners or own occupiers receive an
effective income by living rent free in a property they own.
It's a financial benefit, they argue that goes untaxed in
almost every country, including Australia. In fact, only four OECD
countries Denmark, Greece, the Netherlands and Switzerland have imputed tax rent.

(03:59):
These economists also point out to capital gains when property
venues rise, homeowners profit those gains if the home is
are primary residents go untaxed. By contrast, renters receive no
such benefits and often struggle with rising housing costs. The
economists are not advocating for a direct tax on family homes,
but suggest options like a land or wealth tax should

(04:22):
be on the table. They say a rebalancing could make
the tax system fairer, reduce inequality, and improve housing affordability
by discouraging over investment in residential property. Now the Australian
Bureau of Statistics is also noted that including imputed tax
or in imputed rent in income data would give a

(04:43):
clearer picture of household wealth and inequality. It's a politically
charged idea, but it's one that's gaining traction as Australia
confronts housing affordability, generational divides, and the need for broader
tax reform. So, as a homeowner, how would you feel
about being taxed on your invisible income? Like to hear

(05:04):
your thoughts on it? Eight double two three, double o,
double oh is the number to ring or on any
of the issues of the day. Back shortly five double A.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Sixteen past nine. It's Friday. How do we get here
so soon? William? Good morning?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I wish we had a better topic to talk about.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Basically, it's not what we are getting the you know,
the Palestinian protests shoved down our throats, you know, if
not daily, weekly.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I'm driving.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
To head out towards my first delivery. And on the
corner of Scotti's motel there where you're going into the city,
there's a big sign up on the fence saying Gazans
are starving. Please donate now with a lady and babe
a starving baby and a big QR code and.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
It's fixed to the Hey here you go ahead, and
it's fixed to the fence.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
So I don't even know if that's you know, counsel
put it there, or someone you know trying to make.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
A statement has put it there.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
But I believe that needs to be removed.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Is it a professional looking sign, William? Is it a
professional sign?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It looks like a core flute, to be honest, but
a big one.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And what's it saying.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Garzians are starving? Please donate now with a QR code
and the picture of a lady and a starving baby.
You know, I'm getting sick of it.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I can't even go to work.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
With that scene it now.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Look Thanks for letting us know that, William. That's the
first we've heard. We will certainly make some inquiries to
find out how it got there, who put it there.
If you know more about it, I'd like to hear
eight double two three doublow doubleow. Guardians are starving donat
now and the QR code. Well, we've been talking about
a whole range of issues during the week, and any
of those we have discussed, if you want to bring

(07:02):
them up again, we're more than happy to hear about them.
But I want to talk about the tramline at the moment.
We know, and this happens from time to time, there
will be upsets and aggravations when there are any major
upgrades or system closures. If you know, there has to
be a bit of inconvenience to improve the situation. And
the tramline is going to be closed between the city

(07:25):
and Mostly Square for some time. It's already outrage and
upset to local traders who have felt their business businesses
be hugely impacted. Now we hear from a Forestville resident
who lives along the tramline who is upset by the improvements,
shall we say, let's hear from him. It's Kevin Crathan. Kevin,

(07:45):
good morning to.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
You, Good morning Graham.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
How so what's the situation. Why are you upset?

Speaker 8 (07:53):
Well, I think we're upset because originally, well in May,
we knew nothing about it. And I just saw stakes
and the ground and they cut down the trees in
front of our place, and I thought something's going on,
so I asked a worker, and the worker actually told
me that they were going to crane a building over
from our house. Now that building will be fifteen meters

(08:15):
long by three point six y nine meters high, and
I thought, well, that's going to be a little bit
of a blight on where we live. And I understand
that converters are extremely important. Trams don't actually run without them.
But I think the thing that upsets us most is

(08:35):
that we had no consultation on this. We actually had
to find out that what that building was, so we
actually had to do all the legwork in finding out
what was happening in our area. So I think that
really annoyed us. I think the fact that when we
asked for responses, and i'll just tell you one of

(08:59):
the responses, as they said that these decisions were based
on operational safety and environmental priorities, and then later on
they talked again about technical and environmental outcomes and they
decided that our place was the best option. But the
point being that it's a three quarters of a billion

(09:20):
dollar project, they have plenty of opportunities to come to
us and say this is what we're proposing. We think
that your place is the best place, but we had
no opportunity to put.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Up other options. Sure, and I.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
Think what they've done is in those two examples that
I just said to you, then they don't mention people
at all. So we weren't ever a consideration.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And this structure is virtually straight out in front of
your home.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
It's so, yeah, it's half in front of my house,
but my neighbor next door completely obliterates his view, and
the neighbor on from that it partially obliterates hervia as well.
And it's very close to the edge of the tram corridor,
so there's almost no opportunity to hide it. Really.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, I mean, as you say, it's fifteen meters long
by what over three meters high?

Speaker 8 (10:17):
Three point sixty nine. I was corrected when I said
it was four I said, no, it's three point sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
That is a pretty substantial structure.

Speaker 8 (10:27):
It is a very substantial structure, and it makes because
of its vicinity right near the edge of the tram corridor,
it makes it pretty difficult to grow trees in front
of it to cover it because it will be on
the north. It'll be north, so we won't get it.

(10:48):
They don't get a lot of sun east or west,
and we can't see how they're going to grow things
in front of it when there's no sun coming from
the north that will hit sap or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
So now this is obviously no go ahead.

Speaker 8 (11:04):
No no, no, no, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, no, So this is it's a converter. It's obviously
something needed so the trams can operate. Was there anything
similar to that beforehand?

Speaker 8 (11:15):
Fifty down the road there is an old one, but
it's half the size. Now I understand that this one
is going to have two of everything in it, and
I think that's smart future planning. But they gave us
some strange reasons why it couldn't be in the old site.
We were actually proposing that they should have it on

(11:37):
a T junction so that there isn't anybody upset by
that because it's at the end of a street. And
one of uson actually suggested to us very recently, why
didn't they put it under the overpass ure. The electricity
is easy to get to, it's easy to get to

(11:59):
the facility. It doesn't care that it's right next to
a busy road, so it would have been the perfect
spot we would have thought, but like I said, they
never consulted us, and that is the issue that was
just just said, No, you are the most convenient spot
for us, So you too bad.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
And that's a pretty attractive part of Adelaide too, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (12:23):
It is it's tree lined. I know that we've got
the tramline right behind us, but you know yourself, when
you live next to something that's that's a little bit noisy,
you that noise goes into into the ether.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
You get used to it.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
So it's got some beautiful it's got a lot of
beautiful guns along the.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Street and some lovely homes.

Speaker 8 (12:46):
Our house, yeah, exactly. So we're one of the ones
who can't put anything on the front of our house
because it's locally heritage listed.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
So that's important to make it.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
We're supposed to make our houses as beautiful as we
can for people going past.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
And this bloody monstrosity out the front.

Speaker 8 (13:06):
Absolutely, so I think that's quite weird.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Look, I can understand your concerns, Kevin, and particularly not
being consoled if you've been asked, look this is the proposal.
As often happens when any proposal comes up, the community
has given time to lodge, you know, feeling, you get
a feedback from the community. But as you say, is
this possibly the only alternative? Does it have to be
exactly there? If it had been further down the road,

(13:32):
near the intersection or under the overpass, Yeah, you will.

Speaker 8 (13:36):
Look, they've never said that there aren't any other options.
What they've said is ours is the most is the
best in terms of technical and environmental outcomes. But what
I would have said to them is, hey, why don't
you do at the three sixty. Why don't you actually
turn around and say, oh, there are houses right opposite this,

(13:57):
we don't have to put it here.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (14:00):
But no, apparently that you know, the people weren't a
consideration at all. And I think the other thing that
annoys us is we think this was a deliberate non
information campaign so that by the time we got to
the point where we objected, I mean, say, oh, gee,
that's too late. Oh, and they have apologized for not consulting,

(14:24):
but I think that makes very much Well, that was
one of those you know, those things that you plan for.
We'll take a hit from the public and then we'll
just get on with what we're doing. So we'll, you know,
we'll ask forgiveness rather than commission.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, look, Kevin, I feel for you and nearby residence.
We'll make some inquiries. It's not going to rectify the situation,
because if it's it's a fate of complete it would appear.
But I think you deserve and the community deserves to
please explain thanks to chat with.

Speaker 8 (14:54):
Look, I think the we are a pretty mentally frayed
by this. There's an eighty year old woman who lives
two hours down who doesn't even know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, look, I know I've had.

Speaker 8 (15:04):
To tell her, he said, no one.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, not really good enough. You've got to communicate those
situations like that. That's Kevin Crathurne from Black Forest. With
these tram upgrades, they're building a major converter right outside
or an adjacent to his property and a neighbor's property
fifteen meters long by three point six nine meters high.
I think he said, why does it have to be

(15:28):
exactly where it was? Why wasn't why why weren't the
residents informed about what was happening and given time to
lodge a complaint or lodge a disapproval. It doesn't seem right.
We will make some inquiries. As I said, it's probably
too late, it's already happening, but it does seem not

(15:48):
the way to deal with the community. From the text line,
many of us have worked fifty years to pay off
our loans. Now someone suggests taxing us again. We paid
our dues to get to this stage life. Thank you
for that, Dave, A tax on an invisible income? Please?
What next? How about get the dollars from the petroleum
resource tax that has not collected any dollars in the

(16:10):
last forty years. Meanwhile, our gas is given away. Tax
on homes is communism at its best. It won't make
a difference when that money runs out. They will hit
you with a human being a live tax. Wow, homeowners tax.
I already pay for maintenance on my home, payment that
renters do not pay. Now, if you've just tuned in,

(16:31):
this is the thought bubble of two economists who believe
it's time to rethink how we tax people who own
their own homes. Peter Saminski of the University of Technology
in Sydney and Roger Wilkins at Melbourne University so the
current system unfairly advantages homeowners over renters, and their main
target is imputed rent. That's the concept that owner occupiers

(16:53):
receive an effective income by living rent free in a
property they own, and they believe they should be taxed
on it. We're not saying this is happening, but it
is out there and if it's a way the government
can earn extra money, don't worry, they'll be thinking about it.
A double two to three double double the number the
ring a little bit later this morning will be joined
by Editor at Large at The Advertiser, Paul Starrick about

(17:14):
a very eventful week in politics.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well as talk of an imputed tax for homeowners has
caused a bit of a stir. It's only a thought
bubble at the moment. Don't be too concerned. But two
economists are suggesting that the current system unfairly advantages homeowners
over renters. They want an imputed tax, the concept that
unoccupiers receive an effective income by living rent free in

(17:43):
a property they own. And there are four countries around
the world that have imputed taxes Denmark, Greece, the Netherlands
and Switzerland, none other countries have it. These economists also
point to capital gains when property values rise, homeowners profit,
and those gains if the home is a primary residence,
go untaxed. By contrast, renters receive no such benefit and

(18:06):
often struggle with rising housing costs. So while the economists
are not advocating for a direct tax on family homes,
they are suggesting options like a land or wealth tax
should be on the table. And we'll look into this
story further, but we're certainly getting a whole lot of
feedback on it. Hi gg on the latest home tax.

(18:26):
Seems all the politicians do is go into parliament and
create more ways to tax everyone. Wait till the ESG
score comes in the Environment Social Governance. Soon we will
be taxed on breathing air. Ca says, I worked hard
to get a good job and buy a house all
by myself. I don't get income from it while I
live in it. What about taxing overseas and multiple property investors?

(18:48):
They can stick their dorby tax idea up their jumper,
Thank you, kay Graham. Homeowners already pay a rising tax
every year council rates. Renters don't pay council rates, do they? No,
that's dead right, Jamie and I just want to cry.
How much tax do we need to pay in this country?
It's so disheartening. What's the point of working and saving,
buying your own home, planning to be a self funded retiree,

(19:12):
only to be penalized from every angle to even consider
a tax of this kind. When we under tax, we
virtually give away our resources. We've heard officially that a
lot of gas that comes from Australia is exported overseas
for free. We receive no royalties, there's no excise tax,
nothing on it. We could be receiving extra billions of

(19:34):
dollars in revenue like a country like Denmark does they
impose a seventy five percent tax on countries exporting gas
out of their country. It doesn't stop the major exporters,
major industries who know they still can make a big
profit out of it. But and this is successive governments
both Labor and Coalition have agreed to this allowed this

(19:55):
to happen. So billions of dollars is being lost in revenue.
And then we look at snively ways to get tax
from mums and dads who worked all their lives to
get a house, put a roof over their heads. Many
of us have worked fifty years to pay off our loans.
Now someone suggests taxing us again. We paid our dues
to get to this stage in life. Good on your
thanks for that, Dave height double two three double double.

(20:17):
If you want to comment on that, love to hear
from you.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
A popular bar in the city has upset some patrons
with the new rule banning younger drinkers. It's the Sora
on Pirie, upmarket rooftop bar. They've raised the bar when
it comes to the drinking age, lifting it to twenty
one for patrons who want to enter after nine p
thirty of a night. Let's see if we can make
some sense of it. Joining us from the Restaurant and

(20:41):
Catering Association is John Hart, John good morney to you.

Speaker 9 (20:44):
Good morning grime.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
So what's the story behind raising the level or raising
the entry age for people at saur a bar?

Speaker 9 (20:52):
Well, Sora, I've made a decision that in order to
keep their venues safe and for them to be able
to exercise the duty of care that they need to
over their patrons, that they've decided to have the younger
patrons excluded after nine point thirty at night, which is
totally their right. If they see that as the way

(21:13):
to manage their venue, then they should be able to
do that.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
So there's no legal implications at all.

Speaker 9 (21:19):
Well, there shouldn't be grown because I'm in the venue.
Licensee has an obligation to their patrons and they have
a duty of care to those patrons, and they also
have a responsibility under work Health and Safety Lord to
keep the venue safe for anyone that's in the venue
and for the staff. So if they do an analysis

(21:41):
of their risks and they look at those risks and
see that the risks lie with the younger patrons, then
it's their decision to exclude those patrons from the venue.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Do you know if there have been any actual incidents
involving younger people at the bar?

Speaker 9 (21:57):
I don't believe so. Well though I'm not I'm not
sure about that. But every venue has to undertake a
risk analysis and they do a risk management plan and
they look at what the risks are within their venue.
And as I say, it's the licensees responsibility to keep
the venue safe. And if they deem that that's what
needs to be done to keep the venue safe, then

(22:20):
it's their responsibility to do that.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Do you know of any other venues in Adelaide that
impose the same restrictions.

Speaker 9 (22:28):
I don't know of any other venues, but I know
of other venues that impose other restrictions in terms of
hours and the way they manage the venue and how
many people are have in their venue at various times.
So there is a lot of different ways to manage
those risks. But Sorrow is a beautiful roofs off bar,
so they really need to manage that venue in a

(22:51):
way that keeps it safe for everyone.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Can you see the idea catching on?

Speaker 10 (22:57):
Look?

Speaker 9 (22:57):
I think the idea of making sure that you're managing
the group of patrons that you have is absolutely caught on,
and in fact, it's their responsibility, whether it's age based
or not. Graham, I'm not sure that that's something that
will catch on, but you know, venue operators and licensees

(23:18):
have that responsibility, and the way they choose to exercise
that responsibility is up to them.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
There's a suggestion that the Equal Opportunity Commissioner might get involved.
Have you heard about that.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
I might have heard that suggested, But that then is
a conflict between one set of requirements and another set
of requirements on the venue. So it's then down to
which responsibility takes precedence. And I'd suggest that the responsibility
to the patrons within the venue that the licensee has
will take precedence here because that's keeping not only their

(23:52):
patrons but their staff and everyone else in the venue safe.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
But at the stage SORA has the full support of
the Restaurant and Catering Association.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
They do.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Good on, John, thanks for your time to that. It's
John Hart's a president of the Restaurant and Catering Association.
On the Saurer ban, are you a frequenter of the
Saurer ban? Are you under the age of twenty one?
Let's know your story. Would you be grossly disappointed if
at nine point thirty you were told you may now
leave the premises? What are your thoughts about that? Eight?
Double two three double oh double. I think we'll take

(24:22):
some calls. Stay you good morning morning, Yes, what would
you like to talk about?

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (24:34):
That taxta home loaners. I just think it's crazy. So
if I was a renter, you don't have to pay insurance,
you don't have to pay a counsel, right and more,
madeans is free for the life of your lease. So
why would you tax someone that's just trying to get ahead.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
And live.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
After owning your own house of paying everything else doesn't
make sense.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
To me, Well, it probably doesn't make sense to you.
It doesn't make sense to me. But when governments are
looking at new ways at raising tax, it probably makes
sense to them.

Speaker 7 (25:11):
Well that's what we're not. We are the unlucky country
at the moment.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
It's look yeah, good on your Steve, and thanks for
your input. And as I said that, we're failing to
get so much tax. This country should be rolling in money.
We have so many resources. Where were resources rich, huge
supplies of uranium or overseas. One of the biggest gas

(25:38):
deposits in the world, some of the biggest coal deposits
in the world. We're rich in rare earths and so
many things, and yet we let these We've become the
world's pit, the world's what do you call it? When
you're gravel pits? We can just dig it up coming.
We're the mind for the world. And that's all well

(26:00):
and good if we get to recompense for it. But
when we've got to start thinking about taxing homeowners on
earning their home for having the foresight and time the
hard work to do that and going without making sacrifice,
and then saying, maybe imputed rent, you've got an advantage
over a renter, so we might start taxing it. Dave,

(26:21):
good morning. You want to talk about drinking ages?

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, morning, grad, Yeah, I believe so back in the
seventies when I was a young teenager, you know, it
was no big deal to sneak into pubs when you
were younger, you know, probably started doing it when you're fifteen. Yes,
So now part of it was you knew that you
shouldn't be there, right, Yeah, so you were going there,

(26:44):
you have you a couple of quiet bees. You generally
keep yourself a low file so you wouldn't get in trouble.
And and then so I sort of call it the
apprenticeship of drinking and pub pub behavior. So by the
time you got to ad right, you will all the
pair of how to handle yourself and how to drink
behaving a pub. Well, what happens now is because it's

(27:06):
so hard with the ID that everyone's still drinking at
those ages, but they're doing it in private parties with
no real supervisions, no monitoring from their elders, right, So
they go out and go crazy and get absolutely hammered,
and when they get ad they just move on the
pubs and pubs and think it's the same thing. So
it's almost like, you know, we don't let kids drive

(27:29):
now without peoplate. They should almost be the provisional drinking plate.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Provisional drinker. Yeah, yeah, look, you make some sense there, Dave.
You were dead right in terms of you know, we
tended to break the law and go into pubs underage,
but you're dead You keep your head down, would you
You would not make You wouldn't cause as couldn't cause
a fast.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Me and my mates we got caught buying two long
necked bottles at Southa when I was thirteen years old. Right,
the cops, the cops quarters down in the festival theater
or a Skyhooks concert. I thought, how are we going
to get away from telling our parents? We didn't have
to worry because by the time we got home from
the concert, the cops had been to all of our
parents houses.

Speaker 11 (28:14):
Is that right than what we've done?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
And it was a seventy five dollar fight. Now that's
seventy five bucks. That's more than my first week's wait, Wow,
that was the first and only.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
It's probably you learned your lesson.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, that's exactly right. We're not spent out on bail
to do a fifty million times I was always before.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Kept good on your Dave. Thanks for sharing those stories
with us. That is dead true about and we're not
not condoning drinking underage. But if you were underage, you
certainly wouldn't go into a bar and start a pub
fight or cooked gray at a ruckus. You just wanted
your beer and you're standing in the corner hoping no
one realized that you looked a little bit younger than

(28:55):
you should be. This is all about the Saurer Bar
imposing a ban on anyone under twenty one being in
their venue after nine point thirty at night. And I'd
like to know what you think. Are you a regular
attender at the Saura Barn you drink? There have there
been problems with people under the age of twenty one.
Let's know, let's go to glengari Ian.

Speaker 12 (29:17):
Good morning, Good morning, Bribe, how are you good?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Thanks?

Speaker 12 (29:21):
Just speaking the reading the tram overpass near my place.
We have been impacted massively with car parking noise four
hours twenty four hours a day for the last two
or three weeks. I understand the previous gentleman had a
construct something built in front of his house.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
A converter.

Speaker 12 (29:42):
Yeah, we are not in that position, but I would
just like to complement it. It's called the TPSG Alliance.
I have had a communication after communication the minute anything's
going to happen differently. I get an email, I get
a phone, I get a letter box drop so much
so that my dog went nuts the other night and

(30:04):
I rang them and I said, how much long is
this going on for?

Speaker 13 (30:06):
My dog?

Speaker 12 (30:06):
Can't handle it? And we've got to pacify a collar
in the letterbox the next day?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Is that right for my dog?

Speaker 11 (30:13):
No?

Speaker 12 (30:14):
The lady's name, I don't know a sur name, and
I won't mention. This is Maryan whoever Marion is. And
the department they have been just fantastic. I mean, we
get nolis twenty four hours a day here. It's only
one hundred meters from my place, but I expect it
because I'm getting communication daily.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
And this is what is the TPSG alliance.

Speaker 12 (30:38):
I have no idea tram I reckon the t is,
but the TPSG Alliance is the heading on my emails
that I get. I think it's the Department for Infrastructure.
It's something maybe a branch off of that that's just
handling this and the trades blow. It's a fantastic. We've

(31:01):
had road closures where they had trucks that we don't
normally see in our street. But it's to be expected
because number one, communication, which is something most governments are
good at. But this is overwhelming. Its fantastic.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
No Ian, this is great to hear. But it's quite
amazing to think that you're where you are at Glengarry.
Just down the track at Forestville we have Kevin who
gets this massive structure built straight out in front of
him and not a word who.

Speaker 12 (31:30):
Because possibly I would have thought they were expecting it.
I don't know what that converter is. There's a little box,
a couple of boxes on the tram line.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, but nothing. I mean, this one at black Forest
is fifteen meters long by almost three and four four
meters high.

Speaker 14 (31:48):
What is it?

Speaker 12 (31:49):
Do you know, Graham?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Well, Kevin said it was a converter, So I mean
it's obviously necessary that turns the power or distributes the
power or something like that. Why it has to be
put out in front of residential properties.

Speaker 12 (32:02):
I don't know, I can understand. And he's at Black Forest,
he would be on the trend rin yeah Forest. Well,
hopefully someone's listening from TPSG or Mary or something and
maybe they can pacify Kevin. But as you said, and
your blurred before that, it's too late now I don't
know whether it's been built or not. But once again,

(32:24):
hand a big tip to TPSG Allowance. They have been
wonderful for me. But as I say, I haven't got
a construction in front of me, so mine is just
a big inconvenience for the next six months.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
As I said, no, not a problem, but thanks for
sharing your story with us. So on this tram line
we have total communication with Ian getting resolution to when
will the sound stop? What can I do about my
dog being disturbed by all the noise? And gets a
pacifier in the mail, And then we go down the

(32:57):
line to Black Forest and they build this dirty, big
convert the front and nobody has told a word. So
there seems to be somewhat of a breakdown in communications.
We'll see if we can find out more. Hey, double
two three double O Doubler is my number five double.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's ten to ten five double A on a Friday morning.
This story about the imputed rent that homemanners may be
forced to pay. Now, it's only a thought bubble at
the moment by two economists, but you can bet the
government we're listening all years as they try to find
more ways to generate money, and we're not going to
have time to take the matter. You're more than welcome

(33:34):
to bring up and talk about it, but we will
certainly look at My producer Sam Dado, will pursue the
matter and early next week we will speak to someone
in authority to find out exactly what this rent, imputation imputated,
imputed rent. I don't know anyway. It just means that

(33:55):
those homemanners could be paying out of their pockets. Attacks
A double two three, double O, DOUBLEO is the number
to ring. As we always do on a Friday morning,
we take a look at the week in ESA politics
and joining us as the Advertisers Editor at large. Paul Stark, Paul,
good morning to you.

Speaker 15 (34:11):
Good morning Graham.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Now I believe you've just ducked out of the Australia
America Dialogue. What on the hell's all that about. It's
sprung up out of nowhere.

Speaker 15 (34:19):
Yeah, So this is the Australian American Leadership Dialogue. It's
the first time that these high powered talks have ever
been in South Australia. It's essentially a closed door meeting,
a series of panels and discussions. The most prominent public
aspect of it has been a US congressional delegation that's

(34:40):
been have left today, but they've spent the past previous
few days touring around Adelaide, in particular down at Osborne
Naval Shipyard. ORCAS has been a key topic of discussion
the Orchestra Security Pact in the Australia at the Adelaide
based nuclear powered submarine build as part of that, in particular,
killer this congressional devation went down Wednesday, they expressed a

(35:06):
press conference with Premier Peter mauntawskas great confidence that that
pro deck would go ahead despite the UCUST review that's
been initiated by the Trump administration. That review, which is
expected to report almost within weeks really, but it's expected
to report in the US for our spring, that's looking

(35:29):
at the ORCUST pat's alignment with Presidents Trump's America First Agenda,
and there seems to be the expectation that Australia will
have to cough up a bit more, perhaps in say
the former critical minerals or who knows quite exactly what,
but there's great uncertainty about the future of particularly the

(35:52):
transfer of Virginia class submarines Australia under that. So the
most prominent and the reason it's here is because of
the aucust packed and particularly Adelaide being at the center
of the ucast pack with what is the biggest project
in Australian history, the three sixty eight billion nuclear powered

(36:15):
submarine construction out at Osborne, and we're going down there
on Wednesday. I've been going down to Osborne for an
asc for more than thirty years. There's real activity down
there on biving that nuclear ship, but it's really noticeable.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
That's that's certainly as a positive look if we can
leave the Orcus America dialogue Australian dialogue for a moment.
The algal crisis is certainly not going away anytime soon.
How do you assess the way the Premier has been
handling it.

Speaker 15 (36:47):
I think what he's been cheen to do is demonstrate
activity and demonstrate preparation. I think there's probably an acceptance
or an understanding among the public that this is sort
of you know, it's a natural event and it's beyond
his control. But what I think there's anger about is

(37:09):
that something wasn't done quickly enough, and so he's scrambling
to play catch up. Really, and the prospect of a
summer where marine life is dead, marine life's washing up
on beaches would horrify him. He knows full well what

(37:30):
can happen when events hit an incumbent leader months out
from a state election, because that's what happened to him
with him when Covid entered the state for the first time.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Well, this is you know, this is certainly the wild card,
isn't it, Because you go back six months and it
was all plain sailing that we had a very weak opposition,
change in leadership, Vincentazi had a lot of ground to
make up. The premier was seen as a night in
shy armor, and all of a sudden, there's a chinkle
two in the armor.

Speaker 15 (38:03):
Hm, that's right. And you know, I think partly it's
because things happened while he was on holiday and that
exposed his front bench and showed that it be to
which the government is reliant on the premiere and his
communication ability in his assertiveness, and I don't think anyone

(38:26):
would deny him the opportunity to take a holiday with
his family.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
But the timing probably wasn't away from him.

Speaker 15 (38:35):
That's right exactly events got away from him. I think
I said before, I was on holiday at the same time,
and we went to Melbourne to watch the Crows v.
Bulldogs game, and it really struck me when we got back,
We're gone for about a week, just how much things
had changed without in the apple bloom it was, and

(38:57):
the appetite for something to happen and for the government
to be seen to be doing something, and they are
really caught flat footed. I think out of state.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
And federal, well, Murray what has been battered around the head,
and deservedly so over the last few days. He seems
to be more of a liability than an asset to
state labor.

Speaker 15 (39:15):
I think he's really camstung here. I think that Anthony
Abernezi hasn't taken it seriously enough. I think that the
charge against him, in particular about if it was happening
on Sydney Beaches is absolutely correct that people would be
taking his government would be taking a lot more notice

(39:35):
if ted marine life was washing up on Bondi or
Manly or under the Harbor Bridge. You know it's and
it does show even though we have four cabinet, very
senior cabinet ministers from this state, we don't have marginal
seats that are worth him getting after. So it shows

(40:00):
the lack of how our electoral clout has diminished. Federal
be positive the lack of those marginal seats. When I
went to Best Colory twenty plus years ago, South Australia
had more senior cabinet ministers. Five marginal seats were a
real electoral battleground. That's not the case anymore now.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I know. You've got to get back into the forum.
One final question David Spear's front page news. Is there
any chance that he'll get back into politics, get back
into Merceda black I think there is.

Speaker 15 (40:37):
As we were saying earlier in the week, people can
have their views on whether or not it's appropriate that
someone who's been convicted, a convicted cocaine supplier, and the
various issues around that one is eligible to contest politics.
There's to be a candidate. There's a legal issue potentially

(40:59):
around and that, but also you know, it's really up
to voters to judge whether or not that's okay. But
then there's the electoral question. He does seem to be
have this sort of extraordinary popularity in his electorate, so
it wouldn't surprise me at all if he stood as

(41:19):
an independent and was able to do so. And then
the question does a real challenge for the Liberal Party
where do they put their preferences? Do they preference in
or not? I don't know. Yeah, that's right, and I
know others disagree with me on the way, you know,

(41:42):
the way he's been talking, has done a lot of radio.
Had a really good interview with him on five Double A.
He on whether he's sort of in the mentally in
the right space. And Bill's years to contest. But I
wouldn't be at all surprised if he comes back from
his Cocoda walk as major parties expect, and declared his

(42:03):
candidacy at some stage within the next couple of months.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Well soon know, Paul, great to chat, Thanks for time.
We'll speak next week.

Speaker 15 (42:11):
Thanks very much.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Grab advertisers, Paul Stark. You can read him in the
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five to one minute two to ten on five double
A back shortly with the sixty Minutes investigation into the
Epstein saga and what impact it's having on Donald Trump.
Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings. Good morning, it's

(42:33):
eight past ten and it's Friday. Well, the Trump administration
is facing growing criticism for not releasing additional Jeffrey Epstein files,
and that's despite earlier promises of transparency. In July, the
Justice Department, under the Attorney General Pam Bondi, issued a
memo stating no further disclosure was warranted, claiming no evidence
of an incriminating client list or black mail material existed,

(42:55):
and concluded Epstein's twenty nineteen death was a suicide. Is
that the end of story? Well, sixty Minutes is doing
a special on Sunday night.

Speaker 16 (43:04):
So I get there and I'm all sweaty and running shorts.

Speaker 17 (43:07):
Donald Trump walks instood, you know, hovering and smirking like
a Chesshire Gren the.

Speaker 16 (43:13):
President and the pedophile. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein,
the association that's haunting Trump. Epstein said he was his
best friend. Is the President lying? Oh my heavens, yess, yes,
he's lying on sixty minutes.

Speaker 11 (43:28):
When he died in a jail where no one has
ever committed suicide before.

Speaker 18 (43:32):
That really is the moment that the mystery surrounding Epstein
really explodes.

Speaker 16 (43:36):
What's really in the Epstein files? We need to release
the Fstein list. Why haven't they been released?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I call it the Epstein hooks?

Speaker 16 (43:43):
And why have the Donald's most loyal supporters you're telling
me there's no lear turned against him.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
We're going to burn them.

Speaker 12 (43:49):
I got the match.

Speaker 16 (43:50):
So Trump really seems to be hiding something. Sunday on
nine and nine, Now.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Amelia Adam is posing some very strong questions there, She
joins me, Now, Amelia, good morning.

Speaker 16 (44:00):
To you, Morning Graham.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Lots of questions, how many answers.

Speaker 19 (44:04):
Oh, it's a tricky one. And I think this is
why it won't go away, because there are these really alluring,
sort of fascinating details that we don't know the answers to.
The President has consistently promised to release these so called files,
and now he won't.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
So you know, he campaigned on the fact that he
would release the files.

Speaker 19 (44:25):
Well exactly, and I think if you go back to
his first presidency, Graham, it was really after Epstein's death
in jail, the presidents that have latched onto the conspiracy
theories about, you know, was it a suicide, was it
a murder?

Speaker 5 (44:35):
Was it a cover up?

Speaker 19 (44:37):
He sort of leant into that then, and then, as
you say, by the twenty twenty four campaign, he was
promising to release these files. We've seen some of them.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
We know.

Speaker 19 (44:48):
What we do know is that it's about three hundred
gigs of you know, data evidence about Jeffrey Epstein's awful
crimes against girls and young women. We've seen some flight logs.
We know that Donald Trump is names him self in
the files. We don't know more capacity. We know who
was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. We don't know that they
did anything inappropriate. So there's a few things we know.

(45:09):
But I think you know, certainly from the campaign promise,
the Mega Faithfull and other American voters have quite rightly thought, Okay, well,
you know you're promising to release this these files, potentially
this elusive if it even exists, client list of Jeffrey
Epstein's We're going to you know, bring down the so
called Washington elites, you know, everything that people want to know,

(45:33):
and now they're being told there's nothing to see here.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah you mentioned, yeah, you mentioned the mega supporters who
would follow Donald Trump to through Helen back. But it
seems that a good body of them now saying enough
is enough, We want some answers.

Speaker 19 (45:48):
Yeah, he's really upset them. And look, I've covered, you know,
both his presidencies in America. I've been to a lot
of more magor events that I could count. As you know,
they are very, very passionate and there's very very loyal.
I mean, this man has been what impeached twice and
indicted and you know, ninety one felony count Jan six,

(46:09):
the list goes on, and he was still reelected. So
he is a political survivor. We know that there's no
doubt about that. But there's something about this case, Graham,
that his supporters are just going, you know what you've
actually it feels like you've lied to us, and they're
not for the almost I think probably the first time,
they're not believing what Donald Trump is saying to them,

(46:30):
which is this is a hoax, there's nothing to see,
forget about it, don't worry about it, and The problem is,
of course as well, you've got Jeffrey Epstein's co conspiracy
Gilene Maxwell, sitting in jail. She has never revealed anything,
and she's now been given this sort of fresh power
in a way. Donald Trump's come under pressure to He's

(46:50):
sent people to reinterview her, He's moved her to a
minimum security prison. So I think that raises a lot
more questions as well.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Do you see Gallaine Maxwell as a ticking time bomb?

Speaker 20 (47:01):
I think so.

Speaker 19 (47:02):
We've spoken to some you know, really really incredible victims
of Gilay Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein in our show sixty
Minutes on Sunday Night, and you know, they say there
were more people involved. Guilay knows, she knows who is involved,
she knows what they did. Why won't she give those answers?

(47:24):
Jeffrey Epstein's secrets died with him. You know, he can't
be redopposed, he can't testify to Congress. She can, and
you know why doesn't she? And now, of course she's
in this fresh position of power because it's become such
a big story again where she's been asked to testify
again and now she's saying, well, only if the president
gives me immunity. I mean, sorry, but you know she

(47:46):
is a vile, convicted pedophile.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean you may make the points.
And it's so relevant that Donald Trump's mega supporters will
follow him in any direction and he can say black
as black and white as blue, and they've even when
it's been patently obvious that he has lied or changed
tune midstream. This Epstein story is one that they're not wavering.

(48:12):
They're not they're not following the Trump storyline.

Speaker 19 (48:15):
No, And I think I think he's set himself up
for that, Graham. I think he's he's made this mess
himself by creating this or certainly buying into the controversy
of the conspiracy, which he does on a lot of things,
and then promising that you know, there are names and
they'll be you know, elites brought down and names exposed
and client lists, and then to suddenly say, oh, just actually,

(48:37):
don't worry about it, when we also know that he
was just briefed a couple of months ago that his
name is in the file. It does make you wonder like, well,
what capacity And as you know, some magas sports we've
spoken to for sixty minutes they is he is he
then covering up a friendship that he had, Why is
he distancing himself from this so much? It makes them

(48:59):
want to know more. I've spoken to political analysts and
polsters who think this could actually harm him in the
midterms next year, you know, not just Trump but Republicans,
and as you know, those two things don't always align
in US politics. But the Republicans, all of them, made
this a campaign issue and all of that sort of

(49:21):
I guess the right wing echo chamber, you know, the
really hardcore conservative podcasters who are hugely popular and hugely
influential now in US media, they were latching onto this
and they were saying, you know, great, we're finally going
to know what's in these steam files, and let's speculate about.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
What it is.

Speaker 19 (49:38):
And it was so hyped up and whizzed up that
for the President to turn around and say, why are
you still talking about this guy?

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Here's a creep.

Speaker 19 (49:45):
I kicked him out. Nothing to see here. I think
you can see why it's caused problems for him, and
he's just not going away.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
It's reasonable to assume that if all of a suddenly
he wants a lid kept on it, if he's got
nothing to hide, wouldn't he just reveal the files and
say it's an open book. But he's not doing well indeed.

Speaker 19 (50:01):
And I think part of the problem as well is that,
you know, the Justice Department has come out and said
so firmly, there's nothing in these files to suggest that
there's not enough evidence to prosecute any third party or
anyone else. Now, when you've got victims as we do,
and as we've heard elsewhere before, saying well, hang on
a second, there was this person, and there was this person.

(50:23):
You know, we were passed from woman to woman to
woman before we even got to Glaine Maxwell, before we
even got to Jeffrey Epstein. This was a sophisticated trafficking ring.
There were are other people involved. How can their names
not be in those files? And how can they not
be the very least investigated, if not held accountable.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Obviously a lot to be revealed, and we'll find out
much more about it in your investigation on Sunday night, Amelia,
Thanks for your time today.

Speaker 11 (50:45):
Thanks Graham, Amelia.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Adam's sixty Minutes Reporter. How the Epstein saga is causing
havoc for Donald Trump back Shorty five double.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
At twenty past ten. Will today marks the anniversary is
the end of World War II. The surrender of the
Empire of Japan was announced by Emperor Hirohito on the
fifteenth of August, formerly signed on the tecond of September
nineteen forty five. World War II had a profound impact
on Australia, both at home and abroad. Nearly one million
allar stradius, about one in seven served in the armed forces.

(51:19):
Of those, over twenty seven thousand were killed, and around
twenty three thousand were taken prisoner, many suffering or dying
in captivity, especially in Japanese camps. What are your memories
of the end of the war, if not your memories
memories of your parents or grandparents, And what lasting impact
of the war was there here in Austratia. Give us
a call, let's know your thoughts. Eight double two three
double o double Oh Pat, good morning, good boy, Gram.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
I mean it said, a very important time in Australia,
in the world's history.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Most definitely.

Speaker 7 (51:47):
I was listening to sixty dead lady from sixteen minutes.
My god, I had to stop myself for it. On
up Remember about four I wonder that people have never
trust to be here. Remember about four years ago Trump
was being interviewed either legendary sixty minutes and Trump was
telling them, then, look, Hillary Clinton, Obama and Bill Clinton

(52:08):
have all weaponized the government and this Russia hoax is
that exactly that? Remember he used to have prey news
articles daily off that Trump's colluding with Russia. Turns out
that's all true. They've got evidence and they can they
start to investigate Clinton and Obama. But I would have
thought she would report on that they've lost all credibility.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Well, that's another story. But you don't think the Epstein
story is relevant.

Speaker 7 (52:35):
Well did she mention that there's a number of Democrat
judges blocking their release of information?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
No, she didn't, No, she didn't sixty.

Speaker 7 (52:46):
No, wonder people have complete distrust in the media. I mean,
it's proven. It's fact. They've got all the emails between
Obama and everyone how they weaponized the entire government and
tried al much. But ah, it's crazy. Why don't they
do some reporting about the Democrats. They won't do that

(53:06):
because the media is left. It's points left everywhere. To
bring that point up on.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Your pat Thanks for call Peter at McGill. Good morning, Peter,
How are you today, g How are you good? Thanks?

Speaker 21 (53:20):
Okay, what's the story about this? This tax on your
own home, your personal.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Home imputed tax? Now, it's only two economists who are
thinking it's probably a good idea. They think we should
be rethinking how we tax people who own their own homes.
It's Peter Siminski of the University of Technology in Sydney
and Roger Wilkins at Melbourne University. They believe that the
current system unfairly advantages homeowners over renters and that's where

(53:51):
they see this imputed rent coming in.

Speaker 21 (53:54):
The Government's not hasn't said a word about it.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
No, not at all, No, not right okay, and I've
been saying that all along. But anytime that you suggest
there's ways of taxing people and getting more tax you've
got to be thinking that the government was listening in.

Speaker 20 (54:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (54:11):
Yeah, Well, I mean they're the ones who benefit, don't
they exactly?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
And they're looking for no WAT taxes.

Speaker 21 (54:18):
Yeah, and no, I just thought if it's the government
coming and supporting that, well, first of all, they're taking
us down to the lowest common denominator, right, So basically
taking the incentive off of ownership. I thought it might
be the government trying to take the shine of or
take the shine off of the housing crisis. People are

(54:43):
not going out there buying their own home to be taxed,
so they won't Well, you.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Know, Peter, don't read anything too much into it at
this stage. We're going to take a close look at
the story and we'll try and speak with one of
the economists next week, and we'll also try to get
the treasure on to see if it's got any legs.
The government will at least consider it out the economic groundtable.
But stay tuned, we're on the case. Dave, good morning,
Good morning Graham.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
This business of taxing people's houses, what government in their
right mind is even going to.

Speaker 13 (55:17):
Look at it.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
I mean, remember go back and look at when Shorten
was running to be Prime minister and the story went
round that they were going to look at capital gains,
they were going to look at this. They were going
and they got smashed. Any government that even remotely looks
at this is going to get smashed. So it's just
two blokes having a look at something. It's never going
to happen. Secondly, the people that are ringing up saying

(55:41):
that renters don't pay rakes don't pay this, don't pay right,
you don't reckon that's built into the rent.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Ye, it's a fair observation.

Speaker 6 (55:51):
I mean, if you've got if you've got a unit
and you're renting that unit out, you want to return
on everything you spend on it. And it's sunny, natural
and right. So to say that they're not paying it,
that's rubbish.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, good on your day. I appreciate your input and
let's go to Bellevue Heights. Kayleen, good morning.

Speaker 10 (56:09):
Good morning. I want to talk about the al Gore bloom.
Sure my husband had a different point of view. What's
happening with the Aboriginal leaders. Why don't they meet with
the Prime Minister when he comes to town next week
and say how it's affecting their culture and what's happened
to the people the voice in the South Australian Parliament.

(56:33):
Why aren't the Aboriginal people sort of putting their too
Bobsworth in about the al Gole bloom and how it's
affecting all their way of life.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
And well maybe they are behind closed doors, Kayleen, we're
not hearing it publicly, but I.

Speaker 10 (56:48):
Think the Aboriginal leaders should actually meet the Prime Minister
on a beach and talk to him about how it's
affecting them.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Well that's a good suggestion, Kayleen. And if any Aboriginal
leasers listening, maybe they need to find out where the
Prime Minister is and go and have a talk to
him about that. Thanks very much for you Call eight
double two to three, double doublo is the number to
ring from the text line morning gg. I think you
should get the host of Two Worlds Collide podcast to

(57:18):
talk about our gas and minerals thoughts. I'm not aware
of the Two Worlds Collide podcast, but I'll look into
it see what we can find out. Forget the Epstein files,
how about release the port Arthur files sealed until twenty
ninety one. Makes you wonder why there seems to be
some statute of limitations. Doesn't there on so many files

(57:42):
that are held in perpetuity or not able to be
open for a certain time. I don't know if there's
anything sinister behind it, but we will look. Hi, Graham, Trump,
not revealing the Epstein files, that is not even a thing,
demonstrates how to range these people are. The Democrats had
those files and didn't use them probably indicates there is

(58:03):
nothing on Trump and that would have been used against him.
They tried everything from papaganda to assassination to prevent his reelection.
They have the flight manifest to prove who was there.
Just because they knew each other proves nothing. Cheers. Thanks
for that, Dave. Look, I think the mere fact that
Trump's most ardent supporters, the Mega are wanting him to
reveal the content of the Epstein files, makes sure suggest

(58:27):
that maybe there is something in it, maybe they should
be revealed. Why did Donald Trump initially say when before
he came to power the first time, he will reveal
all the Epstein files will be revealed on day one. Well,
here we are. He went through his first term, he
came back for a second term, and now he's saying
nothing to see here. He could clear it up easily

(58:48):
by just opening the files. Eight double two three double
double back after headlines.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Five double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Well today Mark's the anniversary of the end of World
War Two. Ian Fulham gardens, you'd like to comment.

Speaker 22 (59:06):
Yes, one originally a Victorian.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Don't hold that against me, but I'm originally a Victorian.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Too.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
It usually gets a boo when I first mentioned that,
but I'm from.

Speaker 22 (59:17):
Bella rat but I rang up just simply as a
reminder about what happened, particularly at Rabel. And my understanding
is that when Singapore fell the curtain government at the
time was very wary about setting up garrisons, so they

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put a garrison of about a thousand soldiers on Ambon,
another garrison on each team or and a third garrison
at Rabel, and the average about a thousand soldiers in
each one. But they were very poorly equipped, trained in
the grasslands up in their bony guillo and so on,

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and they were overrunning one night by some far superior
force of Japanese. My uncle was one of those taken
prisoner at Rabel, but they were put on the Montevideo
Maru trading ship with no prisoner of war markings or

(01:00:25):
red cross marking. They were being taken to Hainan, and
when they were north of the Philippines, they were sunk
by an American submarine, not knowing that they were Allied soldiers.
So there's something like don't quote me on the actual figures,

(01:00:45):
but I think it was between eight hundred and a
thousand soldiers plus a few some civilians and other slave labor.
Something like four hours the USS urgent submarine tracked this
trading vessel and then thunk it, believing it to be

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Japanese goods, not knowing it was allis.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
As you said, it didn't have any red cross markings
or anything to suggest that there was there not to.

Speaker 22 (01:01:13):
Be very little of it. Yeah, in the history books
for everything else, and they were basically let go. The
government realized they couldn't defend them. And it was quote
every man for himself times was written on it, but
not much was known about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah. Now, look, Ian, thank you very much for sharing
that story. If you have any stories of World War
two and the end of World War two you'd like
to share with us. And it's just remarkable to think
more than twenty seven thousand Australians were killed, around twenty
three thousand were taken prisoner. I know my uncle, my
father's brother, eldest brother, was a prisoner of war in

(01:01:54):
a changy Wal camp and he, before he went to
war was big man that was a heavyweight boxer and victorian,
quite successful. When he came back from changy he didn't
why a quarter of his normal way and for the
rest of his life there were issues that he had
and ununderstandably so. So it's not only of those that

(01:02:17):
were killed and severely injured, but the trauma and lasting
psychological impact. Of course, then there was the bombing of
Darwin too, so that's it came pretty close to Australian shors.
So we should mark with respect the end of World
War two, the surrender of the Empire of Japan on
this day eight double two three, double o double oh

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is a number ring if he'd like to comment on that.
Something on a happier note. And it's always happy and
it's always fun is and it makes me smile every
time I think of him. The wonderful variety Bash joining
us now. I believe he's still on the trail. Mark
McGill see our variety. Mark, Good morning to you. Where
are you morning, Graham, How are you good? How's it all?

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
It's going fantastically, thank you. I'm in the literally in
the middle of a salt lake as we speak, halfway
between Glen Dambo and Porta Agusta.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Fantastic. So it's coming to an end. This is what
the seventh day.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Of eight Yes this is day seven, Day eight tomorrow,
so we we come into Porta Gusta tonight for our
phenomenal night and then we finish in Tonunda in tomorrow
afternoon around three o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
So how many k's will you have traveled?

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
About twenty four hundred we've been sort of. We left
West Beach last Saturday. We overnighted in Bendleby Rangers on
night one, through League Creek, a couple of nights up
in as far north as William Creek across the Kober Pedi,
and then Glen d'Ambo last night. So yeah, it's been
an incredible run and we've we've had the pick of

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the weather too, grown.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
By the light, brilliant and you deserve it. And so
tell us about some of the vehicles that have taken part
more than one hundred of them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I guess yes, we.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Do when we've got it's an amazing logistical feat actually,
because we've got nearly four hundred people traveling over the
whole eight days, three hundred entrants, and we've got one
hundred volunteers, officials, mobile workshops, medics, bag trucks who ensure

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that everybody obviously travels safely as there is our priority,
but also get through and mechanically say and physically safe.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
So how did the Bash evolve into such a large
scale event.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Well, I think it's just one of those things that
organically varies. Graham over that we have and we'll make
presentations tonight entrance who've made twenty bashes, twenty five bashes,
thirty bashes. It becomes kind of infectious. It's just the
amount of people who come for the first time. They
have just such a great time, surrounded by a maly

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kind and generous and funny people, and yeah, it becomes
part of what becomes part of their life.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Yeah, I know. I speak to that many people that
say to me, what do you mean you haven't been
on the Bash? And I said, well, you know, because
of work, And someone, oh, come on, you've got to
come on the Bash. How many have you been? I've
been on fifteen.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Really, it was always next year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Grant, Well, you said that it's infectious, I guess addictive
is is also common here, So it is.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
Yeah, it's amazing. And and the genuine care that everyone
has for each other and a bit repairing vehicles or
swags or other bits and pieces. It's such a fantastic
way to see South Australia. And you know, just it
reminds me every year just how what an incredible country

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we have and the diversity. As I say, Salt Lake
now we had sort of beech scrub this morning and
then you know, you go as far north as I said,
it's to William Creek where it's just that vast opens
basis is incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Must also build up a huge degree of camaraderie.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
Too, amazing amazing. They we had a band last night
and put it in Glen Dambo, and I think the
poor old band struggled for places because all the Bashes
were participating on other scene or there was a saxophone
going there for one minute. So I thought, yeah, it's

(01:06:25):
the one thing that you expect is to expect the unexpected.
Put it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
You raise a lot of money and it's for a
great cause, do you do. You may raise much on the.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Road, not really, because it's really the Bashes, I guess
the celebration week of for the entrance and everybody for
the hard work that they had done over the past
or the previous year, and and so it's not much
done on track. It's more as I say a celebration,

(01:06:54):
but we hope you're raised over two point five million
grim and again last year alone, Variety in South Australia
supported over forty three thousand children in need and that
figure by grant number is going up each year, so
it speaks to the need. So unfortunately we have to

(01:07:15):
keep generating these that sort of level of revenue just
to keep pace with the demand.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
It's great wise you do it, but it's sad that
you have to do it better every year because the
need keeps growing.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Yeah, we made three hundred and thirty two grants last year,
which was a record. We will make over four hundred
grants this year. So it's not as if we're creeping up.
It's galloping.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
So tell us about community support like pubs with heart.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
Oh, as I say, the Glen Dambo Hotel last night
was fantastic, The William Creek Hotels was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
We had a.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
Photo actually of fash entrance to Republicans and there was
about eight or ten in the photo. So it's the
pubs are heard and fantastic supporters. It comes from the
generosity through their community programs. We in turn, if you
like that becomes a three sixty thing where we then

(01:08:17):
pump that back into the kids that need the support
right across the Oveustralia. But the other things also, Graham
is that is about the pubs, but also the petrol stations,
the accommodation, all these the footy clubs that provide food
lunches in the middle of winter. You've got four hundred

(01:08:39):
people generating literally millions of economic benefits. So there's a
sort of a double sided coin to the fash in
that it's not only for the children and families that
will be supported in the future, but it's also the
immediate support that we provided community to run our event.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Now, Mark, well, no, it's in a good cause and
it's all in the right spirit. But do you ever
bash sort of wear out your welcome in some towns
and they say to your idea of done if we
want you back again?

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
Quite the opposite, Grunts. It's sort of like it's quite
it's like the Tour de France. They're they're lining up,
they're lining up to have us. It's actually it is
funny because I was speaking with them, the detective in
William Creek, and he gave me this is it. I
can't make this up. He gave me his card and
he said, please contact him when you get back. They said,

(01:09:30):
I'm very happy to write you a note of support
about how well behaved our guys have been and how
welcome they are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Again, fantastic, that's great to hear. Now the money goes to,
you know, so many needy children and families. What sort
of feedback do you get from those who you support?

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
They just, you know, we're very very fortunate those on
a daily basis, literally a daily basis, we were the emails,
letters and cards and photos from not only sometimes the
children themselves, but the families, cares, teachers, grandmas. It's just

(01:10:09):
a who express their feelings about the impact that has
changed their lives. And that's what the variety does on
thousands of occasions annually, that the funds change children's lives
so they can live a better life, fulfill their ambition.

(01:10:32):
And also there's also two million dollars annually Graham is
given to other children's charites so that their work can
be expanded, so their work can be more efficient, so
their work ultimately more children can be impacted. And that's
what we really want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
That's brilliant. So as the twenty twenty five variety Bash
winds down. Just the logistics of all must be huge.
Are you already im planning for next year?

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
Three months we've been, Yeah, we've had we've been. We've
been planning for three months. We will announce where we're
going tomorrow night. So we've got we've made all the
accommodation bookings and everything for next year. It has to
have that kind of fifteen sixteen months rolling now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
I mean, expectations must be huge because every year it's great,
but people so that what will they do next year?
Will it be bigger and better? So the bar keeps
rising every year.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
Yeah, it does, and it's just you know, I think
the innovation and that that comes through our volunteer chairs
and committees who are absolute angels.

Speaker 23 (01:11:36):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
They their creativity, their enthusiasm, their spirit all shines through.
And that's what makes each Bash completely different, because not
only the route is completely different, but the the how
it comes across and how people interact with each other.
It's always obviously very positive and it's always a great time.

(01:11:57):
But you know, and also, as I said before, we've
been very lucky with the weather, so yeah, sometimes you
might make your own luck and the big fellow looks
at you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Final question, how can people get involved with Variety, either
as dans, drivers, volunteers or any capacity.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
Look, it's we are often referred to as as a
Variety family. We are very welcoming. Obviously, the information is
that Variety dot org dot au forwards slash s a,
we're down at sixty eight Richmond Road, Keswick. We've come
down and staload to us anytime. So but yeah, it's

(01:12:35):
there are so many ways to be involved with Variety
grammars you know that everything from not only the bash,
motoring events, radio time obviously with five don't pay later
in the year. And that's what we try and do
is we have as many revenue sources, if you like,
as we possibly can to make it relevant to every

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person so that we can generate these funds that these
are one of children.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Keep up the sensational work. Variety is doing a great job.
And safe travels.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
Thanks Gar, I appreciate the sport mate.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Mark McGill, CEO of Variety essay on the final twenty
four hours or so of the Variety Club Bash. Have
you ever been on a bash? Tell us about it?
Tell us no, I guess what do they say to
so to say, what stays. What happens on tours stays
on tour. I know there are some stories that happened
during the bash that can't be related. But if you

(01:13:28):
have any stories that you can relate to us, I'd
love to hear them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Well coming up now, a story of courage, determination and
a second chance at life. Melissa Hartman is a mum
of two from Christy Darns who, at just thirty one,
quite literally died. She suffered a sudden cardiac arrest, flatline
for twenty minutes and survived against all the odds, despite
less than a one percent chance of making it. She's

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now the MC of Brain Injury Awareness Week, the big
launch this Monday at the ILAID Convention Seenter. Angie joins
us now to share a story. Melissa, welcome, thanks for
your time today.

Speaker 12 (01:14:07):
Thank you so much. Graham.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Now, this is a remarkable story. Take us through it.

Speaker 24 (01:14:13):
Well.

Speaker 17 (01:14:15):
Everything haupened to a reason. I was getting ready to
go on a blind date, and I was sitting at
home at about forty minutes before I had to start
leaving to arrive and my friend popped over and I
just had a coughing fit at the doorway, letting him
in the house, and I ran to my room to
get a bottle of water and just completely collapsed. So

(01:14:36):
he's heard the thud, come running in and found me
unconscious on the ground.

Speaker 12 (01:14:41):
I had no pulse.

Speaker 17 (01:14:42):
I stopped breathing, so he did CPR, rung triple zero
and continue doing CPR until the paramedics arrived.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Wow, scary stuff. You've spoken about experiencing the other side.
Tell us about it.

Speaker 17 (01:14:56):
Yes, Yeah, Like I saw my kids to the left
of me, a beautiful stream with vivid, like bright colors,
and then it was sort of like, oh, what do
I do? Like I knew that I'd be okay and
that my children would be okay, but I could see
them sort of floating there, and it was sort of
like a whirlwind of like what do I do? Like
I know they'll be okay, but I sort of you know,

(01:15:19):
I'm not ready yet. I still have a lot more
to do in life.

Speaker 21 (01:15:21):
I need to be back with them.

Speaker 17 (01:15:23):
And then everything sort of.

Speaker 12 (01:15:24):
Flashed white and.

Speaker 17 (01:15:27):
Like my first vivid memory sort of back here was
laying in hospital. I could tell that I was in hospital,
but I didn't like I didn't have that much pain
or anything in my body, just my ribs and my sternum.
And then yeah, I sort of mumbled out to my
dad and he got the nurses in to explain what
had happened. And I'd been in a coma for a
week and I'd since been transferred out of ic TOU

(01:15:49):
And when I woke up, I well, from my first memory,
I was in the cardiac cord.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Has it left you with any lasting effects?

Speaker 17 (01:15:59):
Loss of memory because I was flat for so long
before they were able to restart my heart.

Speaker 12 (01:16:05):
I've got a hypoxic.

Speaker 17 (01:16:06):
Brain injury, which means that there was not enough oxygenated
blood going to my brain, so that's caused memory loss.
I've got brain damage to the frontal lobe, so I
have trouble with concentration memory now more than ever. I
notice I'll be able to sort of remember a face,
but I've lost the name. I wouldn't know who it is,

(01:16:28):
but I know that I remember their face.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
It sounds like you made considering all the lifelong impacts,
you've made an incredible recovery, and you know you've taken
on life front on.

Speaker 17 (01:16:43):
Yes, It's definitely given me a whole new sense of purpose.
Like I realize, you know, I don't. I didn't have
any effects that anything was going to lead to a
sudden cardiac arrest. You know, I wasn't unhealthy, but I
certainly could have been a bit healthier in my life,
but nothing that would have would have explained a sudden

(01:17:04):
cardiac arrest. And just how short life life can end.
So I live a whole lot like I've got more
purpose now with my life, and I live happier and
a lot more determined in life these days.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
So how did you feel when they told you, you know,
you survived against the odds, you virtually had a one
percent chance of survival.

Speaker 17 (01:17:24):
I could not believe it. It didn't sound like real,
Like I was so young or thirty one at the time,
and yeah, now it was like, you know, you might
not walk again, you might not be able to talk properly.
In the early stages, I were talking about me needing
around the clock care, basically having someone showering me, doing
all personal care and stuff, as well as helping me

(01:17:46):
look after my children. And I thought, no, I'm a
single mum, like I've looked after my children on my own,
I'll be looking after them again. And yet it was
just the sort of ball out of the gates like no,
I'll show you what I can do, and off I went.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
That's remarkable. So what part did your children play in
your recovery everything?

Speaker 17 (01:18:05):
I had to do it for them, like everyone says
that they'll die for their kids. But it was the
thing of Okay, well I've already died. Now I need
to live for my children, and that's the most important thing.
I want them to see that, you know, like the
song I've been knocked down, but I've gotten up again
and I don't let anything stop me now. Mind over matter.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Yeah, that's great. Now you're m seeing the launch your
Brain Injury Awareness Week. What messages do you hope to
get across just the.

Speaker 17 (01:18:35):
Importance of learning CPR that obviously my brain injury was
from my cardiac arrest, so it's a secondary to the
cardiac arrest. I've been so grateful to receive the support
from Varnercare and Brain Injury SA and that has helped
tremendously in how I've become so strong so quickly today

(01:18:57):
And just to show others in the audience and for
those watching online as well. That put your mind to
it and work your hardest. Anything's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Now I see here that August twenty six is a
very special day for you. Is it actually your birthday?

Speaker 17 (01:19:15):
No, it's the date that I had the sudden cardiac arress. Totally,
I say it's my fourth birthday, so yeah, it's coming
up this year. It's basically how I celebrate the day
in a positive light because it was such a negative
day on my family's lives. I wasn't expected to live
at all. The fact that I made it over forty

(01:19:35):
eight hours was a miracle, but then to still be
here today, coming up four years later. So I celebrated
as though it's a birthday because I live completely differently
now to how I did previously.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Many people see disability as something that needs to be visible.
How do you help redefine that with your story?

Speaker 24 (01:19:56):
With my story?

Speaker 17 (01:19:57):
Just sort of pushing myself as well. I got told
what I couldn't do so many times when I was recovering,
and it was just, you know, everyone's waiting to see
me collapse and crumble. I want to show them that,
you know, I'm still standing on my own two feet.
I'm walking I'm talking. I'm able to do everything that
I was told I couldn't do. I do struggle daily,

(01:20:19):
but I keep on striving and keep pushing forward.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Melissa, it's a great story. It's a source of inspiration
not only for people going through hardship, but for all
of us that you know, a new attack, a brand
Every day is a brand new day. And exactly no
matter what you're set back is make the most of it.

Speaker 17 (01:20:38):
Yes, as negative as something can be, you'll always be
able to find a positive somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Melissa, thank you so much for your time today.

Speaker 17 (01:20:45):
Thank you so much, Graham, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
That's Melissa Hartman, the mother of two who survived a
cardiac arrest just the age of thirty one. She was
told she had a one percent chance of survival. She
literally came back from the dead. Although she has on
going after effects hypoxic brain injury, which affects her short
term long term memory loss, she is dealing with it,

(01:21:08):
as you can hear, remarkably well. And she's the MC
for Brain Injury Awareness Week this Monday at the Adelaide Convention.
S Edit eight double two to three, double doubler is
my number. We've got about an hour of the show
to go and the Adelaid Film Festival announcers a very
fascinating film that's going to be opening. We're going to
speak with the director and producer and we're going to

(01:21:30):
meet the first of our seven sensational South aas Stradians.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Remember we've been calling for some time for sensational South
Australians over seventy where we've narrowed it down to seven
and we're going to meet the first of them a
little bit later this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Five Double Ay Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Six past eleven on a Friday, sun shining brightly, a
lot of rain on the way. It's going to interrupt
the football tomorrow right What a big game that will
be Adelaide versus Collingwood. If you're a fan of footy,
even if you're an independent and don't like either side,
it will be a good game. A blockbuster eight double

(01:22:08):
two three, double double is the number though on with
the show. Award winning South Australian filmmaker Sophie Hyde returns
to the spotlight with jimper at the opening night of
the twenty twenty five Adeline Film Festival. The movie has
some huge names that we'll find out more about shortly.
But Sophie's known for her fearless storytelling and intimate filmmaking,
and she joins me in our Sophie, good morning to you.

Speaker 19 (01:22:30):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Now, tell us about jimper I believe it's a very
personal story.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
It is.

Speaker 25 (01:22:36):
It's largely inspired by elements of my own life, including
my flight, my late father who was a kind of
very eccentric man, and the experience I've had of raising
my own child. And so the lead character in it
plays a filmmaker, and so in many ways it's explicitly personal,
but also fictionalized as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
I'd say, now, tell us about casting in this movie.
You've got some pretty big names, so.

Speaker 26 (01:23:00):
Sure we do.

Speaker 25 (01:23:02):
Hannah, the lead is played by Olivia Coleman, who I
think we all love. Yeah, and then Jim, the grandfather's character,
is played by John Lisko, who's a wonderful actor as well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
So how do you go about getting actors of that caliber?

Speaker 25 (01:23:21):
Yeah, it's a really fortunate thing that I've been able
to move into a place in my work where actors
are looking to do this kind of material. I think
it was quite hard to get the film to Olivia originally,
but when she finally did receive it, it was very quick,
a very quick process for us to get on a
call and chat. And I think, you know, actors get

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to do all sorts of things, but they are crazy
material that feels like it comes from somewhere in connected
to their life or our lives and explores the distinct
feeling of being human and our relationships. And so they
both just really came onto that and embrace that idea.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
So what is the storyline of the film.

Speaker 25 (01:24:05):
Yeah, it's about a filmmaker who takes her teenage Francis
to Amsterdam to visit their gay grandfather and their teenager
Francis is going through a lot of identity questions and
his queer and non binary trans non binary, and they
kind of decide they want to live in Amsterdam for
a year, even though they're still at high school. And

(01:24:26):
it's really just about Hannah the lead, going how do
I reconcile this or how do I guide my child
and also listen to what they want and deal with
my own sort of history of being parented by this
eccentric man. So it's really multi generational thing with three
generations looking at how to be a parent and be

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a child to each other.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Now I believe cast in the role of the child
is your own child.

Speaker 8 (01:24:54):
That's right.

Speaker 25 (01:24:55):
Odd lot of the experience of the film is nected
to what we've gone through in our own life. The
Ord is a trans non binary person and that means
they use they them pronouns.

Speaker 8 (01:25:08):
You know.

Speaker 25 (01:25:09):
That's been a huge and really rewarding experience for me
starting to understand that and that experience of gender and
that experience of moving through the world. So when we've
decided to do this, it's so really natural that Ord
would play the role and that's been brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
How is it personally to direct to Ord? You know,
your own child? Did you approach it differently?

Speaker 25 (01:25:34):
It's harder in so many ways. In many ways, it's
easy because Ord was part of the writing room and
so they bought in a lot of material and I
had a lot of you know, saying how the story
was presented. So they know the material, they know the story.
But in another way, they know me really well.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
I was going to say, you know, this is not
a director, this is my mum speaking exactly, and I
think other actors are like, let's go and Ord would
be like, oh.

Speaker 22 (01:26:00):
How do I believe my mum?

Speaker 25 (01:26:01):
Where am I being the child or the actor? We
just talked a lot about that and kind of it
was a different feeling on set.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
What were the biggest challenges in a production of this nature?

Speaker 25 (01:26:15):
It's at the international co production So we shot it
in Australia in Adelaide and then in Amsterdam and in
Helsinki as well, and so.

Speaker 22 (01:26:23):
That's just a big moving circus.

Speaker 25 (01:26:24):
You know, we're taking a lot of Australian crew and
cast over there and living for a long time and
very much like a lot of people in the crew
bought their family, so we became this big expanded Australian
family in Amsterdam. And it's actually just the inter relationships,
you know, you become you have big relationships with so

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many people over the course of making a film like this,
and it's definitely the most beautiful part of it and
also of course the most challenging part.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
This is effectively a multi generational queer story. How important
was it for are you to tell that story?

Speaker 25 (01:27:02):
It's really important. I mean, I'm very interested in seeing
people on screen that I feel like we largely ignore
or we don't get to see enough of.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
And so.

Speaker 25 (01:27:12):
My experience in the world is being part of a
clear family, and that feels like something that I want
to watch and I want to understand, and watching Blue
to explore their lives is an exciting thing for me
to see in the cinema. So it was important in
that way, and particularly at the moment when there's a
lot of divisive kind of politicization of these ideas, and

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we wanted to take something back to the idea of
what it feels like to be in a family, to
love each other and to try really hard to be
good to each other.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
It was obviously so significant and important to get the
actors to come totally on board. So Olivia Coleman and
John Lithgow must have been just the right people.

Speaker 25 (01:27:51):
They are just delightful people, both of them. They really
cared about this story and the way that we told it,
and they really led to film in the most gorgeous way.
I feel like we were very fortunate with that particular
lot of casting.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Now you've put me a jumper at Sundance. How was
it received there?

Speaker 25 (01:28:13):
It was really mixed, actually, like it was a very
difficult time to go over. There was a lot of
we just came in during the fires in LA and
there was a new president and that was troubling in
some ways. So we had a really we continue to
have a really warm response from the audience, but it's
also very difficult to play the film without it being

(01:28:35):
kind of, you know, becoming more controversial than I think
the film is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Yeah, So what advice would you give emerging filmmakers who
want to tell deeply personal stories, because I.

Speaker 25 (01:28:49):
Think all filmmaking is deeply personal. Just sometimes we're really
explicit about it. Like I was in there, and that's
not for the faint hearted. Like I am in a family,
I'm in the community the where I feel really supported
to do that. But it is also quite difficult to
stand up and say here I am. You know, enjoy

(01:29:10):
it or don't enjoy it, and tell me what you think.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
I love it.

Speaker 25 (01:29:15):
It's sort of what I do. And I by opening
myself up, I found my cast and crew really became
part like they offered themselves up in a personal way too.
And that's if you can do that, you know, it's
a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
So what does it mean to you do open at
the Adelaide Film Festival.

Speaker 25 (01:29:33):
Oh, look, I've been showing films at Adelaide Film Festival
the whole time that's been around, so from my short
films right through my documentaries and dramas, and they've been
big supportive of supporters of ours, so it's really exciting.
I can't wait to show it to everyone here. I
feel nervous as well, because it's your hometown and you're like,

(01:29:55):
you know, we make our films here, but we often
shoot them elsewhere that we edit them, and I think
it's just it's really exciting to show it and celebrate
the film and celebrate all the people that made it
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Sophie, well done, congratulations and thanks so much for your
time today.

Speaker 22 (01:30:08):
Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Grey Sophie hired director of Jimper which will kick off
the film festival. The Adelaide Film Festival on Wednesday, October fifteenth.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
And we still have the Royal Adelaide Show tickets to
give away between now and midday for the best call
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and at Drake Supermarkets. I think it's time to take
some calls. Patrick, good morning, Good morning Graham, how are

(01:30:43):
you very well? Thank you?

Speaker 8 (01:30:45):
That's good.

Speaker 20 (01:30:45):
Underdial High, yeah, vera conditioning through the summer was absolutely abysmal.
It didn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Oh okay, yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:30:55):
Now in winter time it still doesn't work and has
blown cold area.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Oh really Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:31:03):
The Education Department has been given one hundred and eighty
thousand dollars from the government to fix it. I know
this because I spoke to Zoe at Tom cukton Tonus's office.
M Now, what the hell is going on? If they've
got the money, why don't they do something Otherwise, all
they're doing is freezing the kids in winter time and

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cooking them in summer.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
So how long have they had the money to fix
the problem.

Speaker 20 (01:31:30):
She's checking on that, but I would say it would
be more than more than two months.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
And nothing has changed that. No work has started to
fix their conditioning.

Speaker 20 (01:31:41):
No, none at all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
All right, look we'll look into it, Patrick, We'll see
what we can do to find out. Yeah. No, thanks
for you. Col So under Underdale High a problem with
air conditioning not working in summer and freezing pumping out
cold air in winter and they've got one hundred and
eighty thousand dollars from the government to fix it. Had
the for two months, nothing has happened. Look, we will
check it out. There could be a logical reason for it,

(01:32:04):
but we will certainly see what we can do to
find out. Helen, good morning, Oh, good morning.

Speaker 27 (01:32:09):
I'd just like to mention today seeing it's the remembrance
at the end of the World War Two. My father
was a prisoner of war in Changy. He also worked
on the Burma Road and he also was in Nagasaki
when they dropped the atomic bomb.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
He was there.

Speaker 27 (01:32:33):
He was there down in the coal mines. He came
home a very sick man. And my grandmother, missus Bertha
Hutton of Church Terrace Walk of where she lived at
the time, was the first woman to be honored in
South Australia with five sons going overseas.

Speaker 20 (01:32:53):
Wow for this country, and.

Speaker 27 (01:32:55):
I just like everyone young that's listening today, please please
think about what's going on overseas in the world. We
don't ever want to suffer, and we don't ever want
those boys to suffer or our children of today to suffer.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Oh look, Helen, yeah, they're very wise words, very wise words.

Speaker 27 (01:33:19):
Indeed, so please everybody who may be listening, think seriously
about what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Thank you, Helen, Thank you for your sentiments. Yeah. Look,
the further we get away from war, the less the
horror seem to diminish. Not for those directly involved or
who were close to people, but young people come along
and they sort of see war as something far distant
and not impactive or impacting on them. But yeah, we
need to be from and this is why Anzac Day

(01:33:51):
is so important, remembrance day, and to remember the end
of the significance, significance of the end of World War one,
World War II, the Vietnam More and the like, because
we wanted to live in the world where there is
no war, so we need to be aware of those events. Rachel,
good morning, Oh, good morning, Graham.

Speaker 26 (01:34:10):
Yes, I'm old enough to remember the war. And my
father was up in Darwin in the military when they
were bombed up there. Oh really, yes, the things he saw,
the post office, of women working in there and helping. Oh,
it was just unbelievable. He's up there for years. The
conditions those men were in Darwin were unbelievable, just a

(01:34:34):
tent in all that dreadful weather they had, and the
crops would come around of the night time and start
pulling soldiers out of their tent by the angles and
the others that have to go and rescue them. So
they went through hell up there in Darwin when they
were bombed, but not al lots said about it. But
back here, I was at a Catholic school in Richmond,
and we had air raid shelters and we had to

(01:34:57):
practice running down there. As soon as the air raid
would go, we would run down there. We had little
white bags over our shoulder that had bandages and a
few pins in it, and we and a peg, especially
a peg, and you had to run down into the
air raid shilder, which you weren't to lean on it
because of the bond dropped it would be bad for you.

(01:35:18):
So you had to put the wooden peg between your
teeth so your teeth wouldn't shatter if the bond dropped.
I remember all of that. I remember exactly where the
air raid shilters were. I remember anyone who had a car,
your headlights were covered up halfway from the top, so
you just had the bottom bit to drive by. Not

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many people had cars, but anyhow, and also we had
wardens of a nighttime that would walk the streets, wonderful
man with helmet and they'd knock on your door. There's
a bit of a light shine there, get brown paper
and you'd have to get up and make sure every
bit of light was covered because you'd see the search

(01:36:00):
it's going over the sky of a night time. Now
us children lived at and we went without our fathers
that just got on with it. Now mothers were stoic
and wonderful women. But I just want to say to
the people of Australia, so they think we've never been invaded,
we have been. We've been bombed also, I mean the
sub in Sydney, how do we know about that? But

(01:36:22):
don't take anything for granted. That's what it's taught me
from a young child. When I knew we had to
run as soon as that air raid warning had go off,
we'd run. But don't take everything for granted and think, oh,
this is wonderful and never happened to us. I'm not
saying to be scared, but just be prepared. And it's
taught me all my life to be prepared and just

(01:36:45):
don't take anything for granted.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Rachel, that's a wonderful call, Absolutely wonderful, and thank you
so much for your input. Childhood Memories of a War Amber,
good mind to you.

Speaker 14 (01:36:57):
Oh, good morning, each tradition of most all day, Rachel,
my huck heart goes out to Rachel. I'm sixty eight.
I was the last of five children. My dad served
in New Guinea and the war ended and mum was

(01:37:18):
very excited that he'd be coming home. But he didn't
come home. But no, he survived.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Oh sorry, please to hear that.

Speaker 14 (01:37:30):
Yes, but OHI he had a terrible life afterwards. What
happened they had to pick them half a dozen men
that would stay there and clean everything up. But what
happened they ran out of middlearia tablets and basically they
were forgotten about.

Speaker 21 (01:37:52):
And so he.

Speaker 14 (01:37:56):
Ended up staying there for another six months.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Where was he stationed in New Guinea?

Speaker 14 (01:38:02):
And so what happened they ran out of malaria tablets
and they cleaned everything up and they just had to survive.
They had no rations or anything like that, and so
basically they all got malaria.

Speaker 26 (01:38:21):
And do you know.

Speaker 14 (01:38:22):
I was born in nineteen fifty seven. I was the
last of five children. And when I was eighteen. I
was traveling around Australia as we were lucky we could
do that then, and he had a bout of malaria.
He still got it that late. He would still get

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it and he'd have to go into the repat and
he suffered. Oh he had tonight, you know, in the
years from the bombs.

Speaker 17 (01:38:51):
And.

Speaker 14 (01:38:53):
He suffered very badly. He was lucky to be alive.
And I understand that. So I had a father. I
had a father in July.

Speaker 21 (01:39:04):
I was.

Speaker 14 (01:39:06):
Oh, he passed away in nineteen nineteen ninety nine, is right, Yeah, yeah,
just before we the two thousand, so that he suffered
that very badly from tonights and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Dress and yeah, so many did look good. And but
thank you very much for sharing your story with us
on this anniversary of the ending of World War two. Diane,
you want to talk about Anzac biscuits.

Speaker 24 (01:39:36):
I'm baking antic biscuits to send to my love, to
my grandson who's serving in Darwin.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Is that right?

Speaker 24 (01:39:43):
I came down the other week and he said, man,
can you send me some antake biscuits because I had
made some. So I'm baking some today. The thing is
going to go up in about a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Fantastic.

Speaker 24 (01:39:52):
My Antac biscuits will be going to die onto my
grandson probably.

Speaker 22 (01:39:56):
In a day or so.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Traditional recipe, well, it's out of an old fashion book
that I've got.

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
Yes, so I think so.

Speaker 24 (01:40:03):
One cup of boat, one cup of sugar, one cup
of flower.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
That sounds pretty good to me. You can't beat a
good anzac biscuit. I think that.

Speaker 24 (01:40:11):
Well, he enjoyed them, and he said, Nan, can you
send me someone I'm going on exercise? And I sible,
how am I supposed to get them too? On exercise?
Where it's going when you're on to be It was
in that thing in Tarsi or something in Queensland the
other week.

Speaker 11 (01:40:27):
Okay, okay, he was over there.

Speaker 24 (01:40:29):
They went over there and it's floating around in a
boat somewhere in the ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
You send him our best when you send the anzac biscuits.
You send him our best too, won't you. I will
do love to speak good on your dayan cooking Anzac
biscuits as we speak back after these headlines.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Five Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Twenty eight two twelve five Double A The final thirty
minutes of the show. Well as You're well aware as
a regular five double a listener. We've been in search
of sevens and soational South Australian's over seventy those who
continue to achieve, lead and inspire well. After a long
and arduous task, we've narrowed it down and we have recipients.

(01:41:12):
And our first recipient joins me. Now, Oswald Donald, good.

Speaker 11 (01:41:16):
Morning to you, Good morning Graham, thank you for having me. Congratulations,
thank you very much. As I said earlier, this is
my first accolade ever, so I'm pretty quite chuffed.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
You had to get past seventy to get it. Well,
absolutely well worth waiting for. So tell us your story.

Speaker 11 (01:41:31):
My story, Well, I came out here. I was born
in Scotland and I came out to Australia when I
was a kid. I was five years old, educated in Australia,
worked in the photographic profession for a long time, finishing
also as a freelance photographer. I went through a change
of life situation and reinvented myself as a registered nurse

(01:41:55):
and worked for fifteen years in critical care, intensive care theater,
that sort of stuff. I supported students on clinical placement
for the last couple of years with Flinders University. Then
when COVID hit, there was no students put on placement,
so I sort of pulled the plug on working and
decided to retire. Since then, I've actually found it's very

(01:42:17):
true the cliche they say you have not got enough
time to work, Because my I've been involved in non
professional theater for over forty years, thirty of those have
been with Surrey Theater. And if I can just put
in a very quick plug currently at the Arts Theater
Surrey Theatre, hast Come from Away, which is an absolutely

(01:42:40):
stunning musical that tells the story of the ninety eleven
event when all the air space in America was closed
and plans were diverted to Gander in Newfoundland and a
population of the town which is normally run about two
or three thousand, had over seven thousand people for five
days and just tell a story of that. It's actually

(01:43:01):
really uplifting and inspiring story.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
Now, this is a very theater. So what is your
role there.

Speaker 11 (01:43:06):
Well, I'm the sec construction manager, so I basically run
the set building team. I do design sets as well,
and yeah, so it's my job to coordinate, to run
to the timetable, make sure everything's done. On time and
then bump the set into the theater.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
So I assume you have to be pretty creative to
do that role.

Speaker 21 (01:43:26):
Ah.

Speaker 11 (01:43:26):
Yes, you have to think very much on your feet.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
So did anything in your past life prepare you to
get involved in the theater. Not really.

Speaker 11 (01:43:36):
I sort of fell into it by accident. I've got
two daughters, and when my eldest daughter, who's now forty,
was little, I was looking after and went to pick
my ex wife up from the theater. Company. Rocked in
the door and somebody said, oh, Jeffrey, and I said no,
my name is Don and they said no, no, no,
you look like the person we wanted in our play.

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So I read the script. They said I do want
to be in the play, and I said absolutely. So
it was a baptism of fire. I was on stage.
I'd never been on stage before in my life. I
was halfway through the season before I actually realized I
was the perpetrator of the crime because it was a thriller. Yeah,
and that was my baptism. So I sort of got
into theater that way, worked on stage, did a whole

(01:44:19):
raft of other things, and then moved on into backstage.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
I believe as well as all sorts of things you
do you volunteer at Cedars correct, Absolutely, yeah. I've been
there for probably coming up on five years, and again
I went in there with a totally different role in mind.
I originally went in with the idea of just doing
tours and being a guide, but Tory Dixon Whittle, who

(01:44:44):
was the CEO at the time, found out that I
built and designed stage sets. So she said, Haydn, would
you be interested in helping us do some renovations on
some of the outbuildings. So I said, absolutely, I'll do that.

Speaker 11 (01:44:57):
So I recruit We did a couple of mates, and
there was an old laundry and tack room and we
converted that into a cafe, which is absolutely fantastic for
anybody ever wants to go there. They do fantastic coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
And we're now.

Speaker 11 (01:45:14):
While restoring I guess, not so much renovating an old
dairy and implement shed that was built in the turn
of the century. And I also do other bits and
pieces as required up there.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
And what's the connection with Hans Heisen, But.

Speaker 11 (01:45:28):
My connection is done. It was just something that I
wanted to do because of the fact that he was
a celebrity artist, in his day. I have an interesting
in art, and Hans Heisen is an amazing artist most definitely,
but also like his Laura Hyson's work, Laura's portraiture is
superb and there are some amazing examples of that in

(01:45:49):
the little I've got a little gallery studio where that
used to be, where normal work Laura worked, and there's
some really nice exhibition works in there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Now, don when you came into the studio, you bought
three books with you, so in your spare time. I
can't believe you've got any spare time. Three books that
you've written. Yes, yes, Wyland's Beach Adventures, Whalen's Garden Adventures,
and the one that you mentioned hasn't been released yet.
Skating through trouble. So let's start with the Whalens books.

Speaker 11 (01:46:21):
Okay, well, the Whalen book. The first one that we
produced was Whalen's Garden Adventures. I had the genesis of
the idea a long long time ago, when my daughter
was quite little and I used and she had a bear,
and we used to animate him and take him everywhere
and create stories. And it was always mulling over in
my mind that I'd write down some of those stories

(01:46:44):
one day and my mate Mark Rodgers, who I've known
form about five years now is an amazing artist. He
really is a fantastic artist. And he said, look, I've
always wanted to illustrate a children's book. Do you reckon
you could write one? And that was Whalen's Garden adventuresfully.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Done and all quick.

Speaker 11 (01:47:01):
Look at it here.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
It's beautifully illustrated and beautifully written. You've done a great job.

Speaker 11 (01:47:05):
Thank you all the artwork. It's actually all watercolor, there's
no AI in it at all. And then that's scanned
into it. So then we followed that up with Way
and there's a little message in each one of them.
In the Garden Adventures, the idea is to teach kids
to go outside and explore the garden and they meet
all sorts of interesting things, you know, bees and ants

(01:47:26):
and possums and all sorts of and spiders. Then we
did the Beach Adventure, so again it's it's one day
in Mayland's life. He wakes up in the morning when
he goes to the beach and there's a little message
in there about looking after the environment and just being
aware of the fact that everything.

Speaker 15 (01:47:43):
You do.

Speaker 11 (01:47:44):
Affects something else, and it's also about getting kids outside
to enjoy themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
Yeah, it's, as I said, beautifully written and illustrated. And
what about Skating Through Trouble, which you've said is yet
to be released.

Speaker 11 (01:47:57):
Yeah, well that's that's the launch for that's not until
October because I'm going away for a few weeks. But
that's for older readers. That's for readers we're sort of
thinking seven to nine, that sort of age group, And
that's about they're actually birds, but they're and from whatever
you know, the birds as humans and they live in

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a little country town and Conn the kooker Borough, is
the new kid in town. He arrives in town and
he's feeling very lost. He doesn't know anybody, and he
meets the Kobe Crew and there are a group of
skaters or skateboarders and they take him on in as
a friend and they teach him how to skate. So

(01:48:44):
the synopsis of it in essence is that it's about
our friendship, accepting people as they are, overcoming challenges because
Con had never skateboarded before in his life, and coming
out on top a villain in the story. It's also
about undoing the villain because the villain is he's a

(01:49:06):
like a mister Crumb, and he's he comes into town
to exploit the town and make money and then scarp
her off. And the kids discover that, so they sort
of with the help of the adults, they solve the crime.
I would never purport to be of the quality of
Enid Blatant, but when she wrote Secret seven, she wrote
Secret seven on that concept that the kids would discover

(01:49:29):
stuff and then they would relad that to adults and
then the issues would be solved. And it's that sort
of parallel and it's in the same sort of age group.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Yeah, look, beautiful stories. Do you mind if we give
these away?

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Mate?

Speaker 11 (01:49:44):
By all means you can do that. Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
The first three callers eight double two three, what number
which would like call sam eight double two three, double
o double five. One book for one reader, one book
for two readers, one book for three.

Speaker 11 (01:49:58):
And the violent books of the little ones sort of
two to five two six, and the Scanning through Trouble
is for the age of a slightly older age group
of sort of six to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
Brilliant. Look, we've just got another couple of minutes. I
don't know if we can get through God life story,
and it's quite amazing. What advice would you have for people?
You know, you're in your early seventies and obviously got
a lot of living to do, But people who are
approaching retirement, who are sort of thinking life is winding down,
it sounds like for you life has gone the other way.
It's wound up correct.

Speaker 11 (01:50:29):
Absolutely. Look, I think really the one thing that I've
found since retiring is presume what you're interested in. I've
always been a creative and artistic type person, and now
that I've sort of followed that, it's just open a
whole lot of doors. Try things, just do it. It's
good fun. I'm Marshall, a traffic marshal for the TDU.

(01:50:52):
I'm an official on the Tour down Under Sorry, the
Solar Challenge. There is a whole raft of things that
can get involved in the volunteer role and it's just
never dull, Absolutely never dull.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
And what's the worst thing that can happen? If you
try something that doesn't work, you walk away and try
something else, and try something else. One thing I think
we need to make a point of regarding the books
the importance in this technological age and smartphones and you
know everything else. There's nothing like a good hardcover book.

(01:51:26):
Sit down with a child at any age and just
read to them.

Speaker 11 (01:51:29):
Absolutely, And I will add, as I mentioned to you before,
there is no AI at all in any of those books.
It's all my inside my head for the writing and
Mark my mate for the illustrations.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
That's very reassuring because we know that AI is encroaching
on so many parts of life today and I think
it can be a value. Sure, I've dismissed it all together,
but when it comes to creativity and a message from
the heart, that's where it's got to come from.

Speaker 11 (01:51:57):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Look, Donald, thank you, thank you so much for coming
in today. I can see well I know why because
I was on a voting panel, but it's very apparent
why you are one of the seventh sensational South Australians
over semity.

Speaker 11 (01:52:09):
Well, I am quite I am quite taken aback by
the fact that you've voted for me, and I really
appreciate it. It's quite remarkable.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
So thank you, great story, Thanks for coming in today.

Speaker 11 (01:52:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
We've been speaking with Donald Oswald, who has done so
many things. He's an author, he does work at the
Theerry Theater, the Cedars was it left Crossings?

Speaker 11 (01:52:31):
Did you say you're doing tdu on the Traffic Marshal
Traffic Martian and or soul official on the British Stone
Solar Challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
So well done well Donald, thank you very much for
coming in. Thank you a pleasure speaking with you. And
we have the winners of the three books. Moniker, Rachel
and Tony. Congratulations. You have one of Donald Oswald's books
back shortly five double.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
A Mornings with Graham Goodings.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
And for those people interested in the books of Donald Oswald,
you can get them Shakespeare Bookstore at Birdwood, the Whalen
Books from Cedars or Moonnglow Publishing, Mungo Publishing, The Skating
Through Trouble Book and the Whalens Books. Fascinating Man Don Oswald.
The first of our sensational seven South Australians over seventy

(01:53:20):
eight Double two three double double is the number to
ring Cooper's The legendary South Australian Company has done it again,
something totally different. What are they doing to tell us?
Scott Harris Scott A blinding to you?

Speaker 13 (01:53:31):
Hey, gooday, Graham, here you going look good?

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
Thanks you venturing into the new non alcoholic beer business.

Speaker 13 (01:53:37):
We are yes, for the first time ever, we've scratched,
We've developed our own zero alcohol beer.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
So what's prompted that.

Speaker 13 (01:53:46):
Yeah, it's a general shift, mainly driven by the eighteen
to forty four year olds, the millennials, and the gen zs.

Speaker 22 (01:53:54):
It's part of this.

Speaker 13 (01:53:55):
Whole what good for me type movement, So it's not
just beer beer, food and lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Are people moving away from full strength and half strength beers?
Is the sort of a growing trend.

Speaker 13 (01:54:09):
There's definitely a bit of a trend towards drinking a
bit less but drinking better. But then there's also this
movement where people want to still have a beer or
an adult type beverage rather than a sugary so to drink.

Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
Yeah. The big question people always ask was, well, I'm
happy to drink low strength, no strength beer, but is
it going to taste like beer?

Speaker 14 (01:54:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:54:34):
Yeah, it does nowadays.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:54:36):
So I think that the way the beers are made
and not our beers are made nowadays has changed quite
a bit because of this push, and because it's the
only real beer category showing good growth, and it's a
worldwide trend as well. It's not simply Australia. So you
know Spain, fourteen percent of the total market now is
non olks. You see, America is growing, It's growing everywhere

(01:55:00):
and when a market's growing, people put a lot more
effort into it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
So what could we say this beer is? Like, what
does it acquaint to? Is it a full bodied beer?

Speaker 15 (01:55:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:55:10):
Pretty full body. So what we did was we wanted
to make something that we could put our Cooper's logo
on proudly. So we wanted to make it easy drinking though,
so we didn't want it too heavy. It was also
important to be low calorie because the people that are
drinking these beers are quite a conscious. Yeah, so it's
lower calories only forty nine calories can but it's also

(01:55:32):
got the body. We also use some dry hopping in
it to give it a nice sort of flavor at
the end of the beer as well.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
It sounds good. Well, we wish you well being a
true blue South Australian company. Thanks for your time today, Scott.
Great to have a chat. It's Cooper's Zero the Beer
Life Balance, a brand new alcoholic beer to quench your
thirst when the summer months come. A double two to
three double O double is the number to ring. If
you love your food, be listening to LEITHH Forrest today
just after three when Chris Jarmer from Jamers Which and

(01:56:00):
joins him for thirty Friday. It's thanks to Smeg and Pals.
Are you building or renovating? Your first choice should be
visiting the Smeg showroom at Debney Distributors. Taste the difference
with Smeg and Pals. Will take a call Lynn. Good
morning to you.

Speaker 23 (01:56:14):
Yeah, good morning Graham.

Speaker 25 (01:56:16):
Yeah, how are you?

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
Oh look, I'm very very well. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
We've been.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Recognizing that the end of World War II today, the
significance of Japan signing the surrender. What memories or recollections
do you have?

Speaker 23 (01:56:30):
Yes, yes, I just want to tell your listeners something
that I think is very special that the Australian War
Memorial in Canberra does.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:56:38):
So they have what they call a Roll of Honor
name projection. And IONE recently discovered this because I was
tracing back one of my great uncles who passed away
in World War One, and when I was over in
Canberra visiting a sun we went to the Australian War
Memorial and I was talking to a volunteer and so

(01:57:00):
this was back in June, and she said to me,
on July seventh, at nine eight in the evening, my
great uncle's name will be projected on the front of
the Australian War Memorial for one minute. So they do
it all year round and it starts at sunset and

(01:57:25):
goes through till sunrise. And it was a project that
started during the first the centenary of World War One,
so it went from twenty and fourteen to twenty eighteen.
And at that stage it was only four soldiers that
died in the war in World War One. But because it,

(01:57:47):
you know, was popular, people liked it, they decided to
extend it and include people that passed away or killed
in any of the wars, so it can be Vietnam
War war. So they every three months, my great uncle's
name will be projected on the front of the Australian

(01:58:08):
War Memorial.

Speaker 11 (01:58:09):
What a wonderful trivia at one time, and I.

Speaker 23 (01:58:14):
Didn't know about this, and for me it was a
very special moment. So my son, who lives in Canberra,
he braved the Canberra week cold and he went there
and he face timed me in and he videoed it.
At exactly nine oh eight on the seventh of July.
There was my uncle's name for one minute on the

(01:58:36):
front of the Australian War Memorial and then they went
to another person's name after that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
It's brilliantly, that is really brilliant and to me that.

Speaker 23 (01:58:45):
Was really special, definitely, and I thought, how many people
know about this?

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
We might make some inquiries of the War Memorial about
that and talk to someone and just see what is
involved that I and you'd explained it very well and
a tribute to all those that have fought for Australia.

Speaker 23 (01:59:04):
Yeah, yeah, I just thought it's a shame that it's
not live streamed because not everyone has someone living in
Canadas exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
There is a good point. We will speak to them
and we will suggest all they have to do is
mout a camera looking at the warm War Memorial and
there it would be great suggestion. Lynn. We'll follow it up.

Speaker 2 (01:59:22):
Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:59:23):
I want to get the word out there.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Well you've done that, and we will continue to push
the word. Not long Togo because Leith Forrest is walking
to the studio and that's usually my reminder that the
time to wind up.

Speaker 18 (01:59:35):
Sam sends you in. He doesn't he is here in
there and wind him up. That's right, he's got three minutes.
Get in there, talk some nonsense and then get out.
That's part of my instruction. So we're starting with the Downer,
but then we're going to finish on a high today.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Not an Alexander Downer.

Speaker 18 (01:59:48):
No, No, an Alexander Downer. Cocaine and metheus in South
Australia through the roof. That's horrifying, isn't it through the roof.
So we'll discuss that today with irrelevant bodies. It is
a con though it's only getting worse.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Well, most definitely, and in a time where do people
find the money to buy these.

Speaker 18 (02:00:05):
Drugs well, and without annoying a section or half of
our audience. It infuriates me that people won't take a
vaccine and yet they'll put something in their body that
was made in someone's toilet or laundry, like they don't
know where it's coming. You've got no idea and who
knows what's in it. Yeah, we'll take that though. That's fun.
Hang on, these scientists and doctors and blah blah blah,

(02:00:26):
they've been doing that their entire life. Well, got a
hold on that, trust me. Insane anyway, So we talk
about that. So that's the down. But then it's a Friday.
The weekends upon us, so we thought we'd have some fun.
The Great Paul Kelly's on the show today to talk
about his new single. This is the full up to
Gravy Correct. So thirty years.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
I'm gonna say how long because I was thinking about
the other day and I thought it's been a while,
but thirty years yep.

Speaker 18 (02:00:49):
So he's been sitting on the sequel for thirty's longer
than George Lucas and Star Wars. He had it in mind,
had the line reader wrote a letter, had that in
his mind, bubbling around, bubbling around. Though, right, I've got it.
I know this spoiler alert he dies.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
So this seems to be the long the long follow
ups like Happy Gilmour, you know, yeah, that's right, that's right,
have the sequel decades on.

Speaker 11 (02:01:09):
But I do love it.

Speaker 18 (02:01:09):
I always love Paul. I'm going to ask him about
the Crows too, because he's a massive Crows fan, so
we'll I knew I liked him, is he comm well?
I like the idea too, of you know. Guy Sebastian
was on the other day and we asked him. He's
cocker hoop and bullish and he loves what they're doing.
Is he keeping the lid on?

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
Guy?

Speaker 18 (02:01:26):
Not so much, Paul. I think Paul's a pretty dry character.
I think he might just he's no Stephen Rowe, He's
the anti Stephen Rowe. So he's going to join us
Paul Kelly, which will be a lot of fun footy Friday,
Chris Jalmer will be here skirt steak. I believe it
is with salad, so okay, I know which part you'll
be happy to look at steak. I just want Chris
to start cooking it now so that by three o'clock

(02:01:46):
are to be ready. And I mentioned this to you yesterday,
but today we'll do it on the show. Today's the
fortieth anniversary You're Back to the Future. So there was
a man here in Adelaide who owns a Dolorean and
he came and visited us, so we recorded with him.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
I went down on the lift with you, and I
had to head off to go up to Malila, and
I was on it, but I would have been out there.
I would have been the biggest fan. I love love
Back to the Future movies. I've seen the original.

Speaker 18 (02:02:11):
There was a Crowdiously he pulled up out the front
of sq next door here opened up the doors which
go up, which is always amazing what he has done
to this car, and you'll see it on the live
stream today because we filmed all through the car. I'm
not sure how it's legal, Graham. I'll be honest, I'm
not sure how it's on the road because it's literally
the Dolorean from Back to the Future. It's got bells

(02:02:32):
and whistles and lights and steam and sound effects and
everything at work.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
So all of that and more after one o'clock sound
sensational Lee Forrest coming up this afternoon. That's it for me.
Thank you so much for your contribution throughout the week.
I hope you have a wonderful weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
See you on Monday five, Double A Mornings with Graham Goodings.