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July 29, 2025 31 mins

In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Gina Cleo, a habit scientist and expert in sustainable behavior change. We dive into why most habit advice doesn’t work - and what does.

You’ll learn the neuroscience of habit formation, how to build confidence through small wins, and how your environment shapes your success. Whether you’re starting new habits or breaking old ones, this episode gives you a science-backed roadmap for real change.


We cover:

  • Why the “21-day habit” rule is a myth and what actually works
  • The science-backed 5-step method to successfully build new habits
  • How to use microhabits and habit stacking for long-term success
  • Building confidence through identity-based habits
  • Why feeling safe and managing stress is critical for learning new habits



CHAPTERS:

1:06 – Intro + welcome

2:30 – Dr. Cleo’s early career insight

4:40 – Understanding habits and debunking myths

6:54 – Proven 5-step method to build lasting habits

11:54 – Overcoming self-doubt and building confidence

15:13 – Neuroscience: How habits form in your brain

24:48 – Importance of feeling safe for habit formation

28:42 – Actionable tips for boosting confidence

31:34 – Dr. Cleo’s best career advice



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