August 21, 2025 • 47 mins
Is silent walking the mindfulness trend we all need now? Who can really say... But Phillip Headrick might try in his return to My Crunchy Zen Era with host, Nicole Swisher. In this attempt at a reflective episode, Nicole and Phillip take on:
- Listener comments and questions!
- Sunday routines and related meltdowns.
- Yet more irrational fears... the dead bodies are real.
- Artificial intelligence relationships.
- Traveling etiquette.
- The perfect salsa update.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Philip.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hello, what's something?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
crunchier than you've done lately.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right.
Have you heard of silentwalking Stick with me?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
No yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I hadn't either.
So you know, I was trying to dothe positive affirmations thing
and I couldn't do that reallywell.
And there's this trend that Isaw, and it's essentially silent
exercise and the theory is likeyou spend so much time with
something in your ear, listening, focusing on on something else,
and you're not focusing onyourself.
And I'm trying to walk,exercise, and all that without
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any type of airpod, earbud oranything.
Very difficult, by the way.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I I do that with at work often like I go outside and
I just leave it behind becauseI need to just like rest.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
And you find it helpful.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I do Quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I think it's good.
It's just I spend a lot of time, probably not helping myself,
but just like random thoughtswhat's she wearing?
Why are they doing that?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's not really self-help stuff, but I'm trying
it, so you're supposed to doself-help.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, you're supposed to just be introspective.
Yeah, you're supposed to justbe introspective.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
What's going?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
on with you.
How was your day?
Kind of asking yourselfquestions what are you planning
for, what are you excited about?
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, I don't do that part, so maybe I'll have to.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, start.
I've had four, five days of itnow and so far so good.
I'm proud of myself, I likethat.
So if you see me with AirPods,just rip them out.
Silence.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I've been using corded AirPods.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I don't know if that's still AirPods, but
because of, like, the EMFradiation stuff.
Okay, so I've heard that it'sbetter to take a break.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That's why I'm doing it, the EMF stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's exactly why, of course, look at my bracelets
for EMF oh, I wondered, whatthat was they were yeah, yeah,
it's a whole thing.
I also have a hat.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm all on board you're all in, yeah, all in um.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So I lately have been putting iodine on my hands.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
All right, nicole, I'm all ears, walk me through
this medical marvel.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
My iodine is low and I'm having a hard time getting
it in my diet.
So my cranial sacral lady, whois clearly a doctor, suggested
getting medical iodine, you knowlike putting on cuts.
Yeah, and just putting it on myhands and then just like
letting it soak in, becausethings soak in through your skin
.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And you never wash it off.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I do wash it off.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
How long are you waiting?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Like five minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Have you noticed any changes in your palm, like the
color of your skin or your palm?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Uh-uh.
No, I just envision it lookedlike self-tanning oil.
It does look like that whenit's on there, but it's not.
I mean, it comes right off.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So that's what I'm doing okay, yeah, how does one
track that you just get bloodwork done again to yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I use function health okay, and so I go twice a year
and get blood tests done thatjust come to my come to me, not
through a doctor and then I cango to a doctor, are you pouring
it on, do you?
Dip it, I pour it.
It's like a couple of drips.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, I'm going to check your palms soon.
Sounds good.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Welcome to my Crunchy Zen Era.
We're a weekly podcast filledwith a little fun, a little
humor and a whole lot ofcuriosity.
My guest this week is returningPhilip Hedrick.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hello Nicole, Hello again.
Thank you for having me back.
I'm excited for it.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
What's your favorite way to spend a Sunday?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I love brunch a Sunday brunch.
I have a group of friends thatwe do.
We rotate restaurants.
You get to try some new stuff.
Usually five to seven of uswill do that.
Go get a few drinks.
I have a strict rule that myalarm goes off at 6 pm.
I have to be either home or onthe way home by 6.
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That's smart and then from 6until whatever time I go to bed,
it is Uber Eats, somethingdifferent, something maybe I've
been obsessed with Vietnameselately, but in a movie or
documentary, so I get a littletime with friends and some
one-on-one time to kind offinish out the week.
That's my favorite way to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That sounds wonderful .
Yeah, yeah, I like to take itreally slow and just wake up on
my own time, have a coffee, siton the balcony, do some
journaling, read my Bible, justhave some quiet time, and I try
not to turn on a podcast oranything, just silence.
And then I just kind of hangout.
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Or if a friend calls, I'll dothat.
My time is 3 o'clock.
I want to be home by threeo'clock.
I don't want to be talking toanyone Like, I just want to be
alone.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Do you have a bedtime on Sunday night?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean I try to go be like in bed at nine.
That doesn't mean I'm fallingasleep, Like usually Sundays.
I struggle.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, same.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Anticipating the week yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And if your sunday goes off rails, does that affect
your week?
Because I noticed, like, if Iget home late, like I'm having a
good time, I get home late,it's like, oh gosh, I don't have
time to do this.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Then I've already started the week slightly
stressed so yes, I would, Iwould definitely agree with that
I think some of it's in my heada little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh, absolutely it's all this mental.
I'm always saying it to himlike it's fine.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
it's in my head a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh, absolutely, I'm always saying it to him like
it's fine, it's one hour late,calm down.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'm still stressed.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, if I'm not, if I don't have like my lunch made
or my clothes figured out orwhatever, I feel like this week
is bad.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We're going to do something a little different
today.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes, we have some listener comments questions, so
people should definitely besending them in in the future.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
The first one is from Angie in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Hello, Angie Also known as my sister, which you'll
tell from this.
This is in response toirrational fears Okay.
She just texted me and saidalso your fear of dead bodies in
the rivers.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is it a fear?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, it was a very like big fear.
My grandparents lived on theMississippi River and so
sometimes we would get in thewater there.
My best friends also had a boatand they lived on the
mississippi river and sosometimes we would get in the
water there.
My best friends also had a boatand they lived across the
street so we would often go onthe boat in the river and I
wouldn't get in to the riverlike I would go.
Like at my grandparents.
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You could touch the ground for afew feet in and I would stay
right there, but in the middleof the river like no, because I
always assumed I would jump offthe boat and land on a dead body
, because people die in theMississippi oh, yeah, of course,
all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, the percentage chance of you at the same time
jumping and landing on afloating dead body?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think is pretty high.
I understand it, even if it'snot a dead body.
It's like a log or something.
People would water ski in theMississippi.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
There's nothing worse than being in a lake and
something brushes your leg.
It's never just like a treelimb.
In my mind it's alligatorcrocodile dead body.
Dead body, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I mean my cousin Catherine, calling her out on
this.
Let's go katherine.
Katherine convinced me thatthere were freshwater sharks in
the mississippi, and she she tothis day is like.
I don't remember doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm like you did it freshwater sharks do they exist
I don't, I mean, I'm assumingwhen, like the, the saltwater
freshwater meet maybe there's acouple sharks hanging out.
I don't think they make it allthe way up the Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I noticed the other day.
I have this irrational fear ofgarages, like getting home into
a garage, like I can't get outof my car until the garage door
is completely closed, and it isalways my thought is, someone
slides under the door in thelast two seconds and I miss it
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and then I'm caged in with aserial killer.
So I stay in the car and wehave to wait one, two, all right
, let's go are you?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
are you watching?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
oh, I'm watching okay .
Speaker 1 (08:22):
How can you be sure you're seeing both sides?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm doing this, but now.
So I'm parking in an actualparking garage now.
So now I'm back in and there'salways probably someone under
the car the other cars.
So I open the door and I waitin case the hatchet, because
they're trying to get myAchilles tendons.
So I wait.
If there's no hatchet, I getout and I'm constant heads on a
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swivel.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Wasn't that like an urban legend going around?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I think that really affected me, like there was
somebody slicing Achillestendons at malls.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Was that an impressionable age for you that
you heard this?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Apparently, because many years later, I'm still
pausing to get out of my car.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I always think of the one at the gas station about
somebody climbing into the car.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Oh, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I do always lock my door when I'm getting gas.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I lock my door everywhere.
I lock my bathroom door in myplace alone when I go to the
bathroom.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I don't do that.
I mean, I'm showering.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You shower with the door unlocked.
Yeah, oh well, it's a perfecttime for the killer to get in.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't sleep with my door unlocked, though.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Like I have to have my master bedroom door locked.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Which I think a lot of times now.
I just like shower, though,like my master bath is in there
oh, and so it's probably lockedmine's separate so yeah are we
crazy?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
oh, this is normal, this is so normal, very normal.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I uh, uh.
Last weekend I finally wentthrough and changed all the
simply safe batteries because,like one window had been out for
a long time and then the doorwent out and and I was like I
can't with this.
But it feels like I can't keepup with the batteries in my
house.
But I was like my roommate wasout of town and then I didn't,
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you know, for the first time Iwas alone without my dog, and
you know whether or not he'shaunting the house, who knows.
But I just was a little jumpierand was like.
I'm changing all these.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I want the alarms fully on, and they definitely
are now if you could build yourown home, would you put a panic
room in your house?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
what an interesting thought.
Yes, I would.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I think I like a glamorous panic room would be so
cool.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I think I would use it a lot but, like it's not that
I'm always panicked, but whatwas that noise to?
The panic room yeah, I likehaving a room I could go to
where, like I know, there's onlyone way in so I I do think
about, like what if an intrudercame and my thought is I quickly
go into my bathroom, so I'dhave double locked doors, make
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sure, sure I have my phone, andthen I'd like lean against the
Good plan.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, the more doors to break through the better.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Do you want to know something terrifying about my
house?
Maybe, Okay, I live in a newersubdivision.
Before I moved in the housenext door and the one next door
that were broken into the one atthe end was empty, but the one
next door to mine she was therewith her two kids and the
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intruders got all the wayupstairs and she woke up to them
standing over her.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Done, yeah, done.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And when I heard this story, that's when I got my
alarm system in.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Did you hear this before you moved in?
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I had no idea, and my new neighbor, so that lady
moved, which makes sense becausethat's very traumatic.
The new neighbor, after she hadbeen there for a bit, we met
and she was like I didn't knowabout this history when I bought
the house.
I'm like I don't think they hadto disclose that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I guess not.
Yeah, I'd be terrified.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But that was I guess they said it was in 2020 or 2021
, and it was like pretty emptyand stuff was happening.
So I feel very confident aboutwhere I live now, but when I
heard that I was like nope.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, I've been over there.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It feels really safe to me, it's totally fine.
Yeah, now I'm gonna be nervous,okay.
Next comment Maddie inMinnesota, episode one uh, wait,
no, this was from doesn'tmatter.
Um, what's your favoritestand-up joke you've ever
written?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
oh, yeah, um gosh, that really put me on the spot.
Oh yeah, gosh, that really putme on the spot there.
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
what my favorite joke is of yours.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I don't know if I'm going to be able to say it right
.
Do you care if I share?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
it no go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's the one where you're like they're all telling
me not to have trans fats andI'm like trans fats are fats too
.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And that was in the first set.
I like the whole first set forclass.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That was a good one, yeah you know, I think we talked
about this last time.
I was going back recently andrereading some of the jokes and
then like they, like youmentioned, they're not as
relevant, so it's like I'mhaving to go through and like
tweak things too.
So it's a different form of thesame joke, but trying to like
update it, which seems weirdbecause it's only been like a
year since.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I wrote it, but it's like I'm like that doesn't seem
as funny anymore yeah, I don'tknow if my humor is changing or
like it could be, yeah, likeyou're growing as comedian you
have you've seen like differentthings yeah, yeah.
I think my favorite joke, Ithink it's my joke about cults
of like all my all the women inmy family are on Facebook
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Marketplace.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it goes.
Wait, how does it go?
It goes, oh my gosh, I don'tremember.
I've been trying new things.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I don't remember, because my favorite one of yours
is um about the potato in thepocket, which is totally true,
yeah so the potato in the pocketis.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I lived with my grandparents for a semester in
college in minnesota, very cold,and my grandma was always
worried I wasn't eating enough,and so one day I was going to
Starbucks to study and she hadmade hot baked potatoes and she
was like you should bring thiswith you just in case they run
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out of food and you're hungry.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
She envisioned you walking down the road with a
potato in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
She had potatoes all the time.
I feel like it was like a GreatDepression thing oh yeah like
she and my grandpa, and when,when we went to like clean out
the house, there was like Ithink it was like onions and
potatoes, like had grownsomewhere, and it's like same
thing at my grandparents house.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
When we cleaned it out in the basement there were
probably 500 jars full of likevegetables that had been saved
for just in case, and most ofthem were ruined, but like it
looked like a grocery store downthere yeah but depression my
dad.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Does that not a depression child?
No yeah his is like mandarinoranges and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's afraid they're going to run out.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I guess, I don't know .
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He's buying them in bulk.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I mean, he just so.
The thing with my dad is whenyou tell him here's an example I
was just home and we ran out ofgluten-free pancake mix and my
mom was like, can you go picksome more up?
And he comes back with two bags.
He never gets one, he alwaysgets two.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
My dad does that too.
What is that?
Mom's always like?
He's always afraid he's notgoing to get enough.
He'll always buy like twospices, two of something, Mom's
like I just said, one.
It's like well, you don't haveto buy this in the future.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, and I know during COVID he ended up buying
like tons of peanut butter.
That was.
I'm okay with that yeah, I mean, peanut butter is great creamy
crunchy.
I like crunchy well, figures,crunchies in.
I was like what are you talkingabout?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
now are you a cereal eater sometimes did you know
that there is a new cereal outthat is specifically to be
paired with orange juice?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, that sounds gross .
My dad's been doing that foryears.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Really, Because that's like a new trend now, too
is orange juice and cereal.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
He's been putting orange juice, or any juice, in
cereal for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, Tropicana has this new Tropicana Crunch that's
supposed to pair.
It's like to cut the citrus ofthe orange juice.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And now you's supposed to pair.
It's like to cut the citrus ofthe orange juice and then you're
supposed to absolutely not.
No, it's a no for me.
Yeah, uh.
Maddie also made arecommendation for a self-help
book.
It's called laziness does notexist by dr devon price.
She said it's for burned outoverachievers, which I don't
know if she's like to saysomething, but thanks for that.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, that sounds interesting.
It does sound interesting.
Yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Wait, did you say you had a favorite of your jokes?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, I was trying to think of one.
The only one I could think ofis slightly inappropriate.
Okay, I might know what it isAnyway.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So from episode two on um, on primitive camping, my
roommate gave some feedback.
I mean, he gave me a long listof recommendations on it.
We're going to just start withthe first one.
And he says you don't need, initalics, a fire.
Fire bans are common in summerand, honestly, by the time you
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roll into camp you're usuallytoo tired to build one anyway.
That's why fall hiking isunderrated cooler temps, fewer
people and no bugs.
Just invest in a jet boil or asolid msr stove and call it good
.
Pro tip msr fuel can double asa fire starter in a pinch.
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Just don't be dumb with it.
Don't burn the forest down.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I feel like, though, a fire starter kit, or the jet
boil, whatever it's called,doesn't go with primitive
camping in my mind.
Primitive camping I'm I mean,everything is off the land,
right, that's.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean, I guess it's what you make it yeah.
I still haven't googled it.
Why didn't I google it?
It's true.
I mean, I googled how to starta fire and then I was like, hey,
nick, can we go to the deepwell entrance and start a fire
in one of the fire bits.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't think I've ever started a fire without um
the accelerant.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I don't know if I've ever started a fire.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
But all that to say.
I do feel like you need to knowhow to do it, though.
Sure, I need to get the jetfuel package, or and now my
follow-up question, though, tohim is like so like, what are
you eating?
So like, if you're not doing afire, maybe they're doing those
like mre things where you justadd water.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You go down to the creek, get you some water and
then you'd get beef stroganoffin two minutes I just don't know
I'm only out there for a day ortwo, I mean, if I'm starving
maybe, but I'm not gonna, I'drather just eat a granola bar.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Bugs For protein.
Alright, well, so we're pullingcomments From YouTube,
Instagram, TikTok Facebook groupand I said TikTok again, so
there are two or, if you do havemy phone number, you can text
me.
So like a really helpful andeasy way that you could support
the show without like givingmoney, which I'll take, but it
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would be to leave like a rating,review or like follow us and
subscribe.
So that's my pitch.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I rated it.
You did, I did.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do I get a gift or anything?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I mean, I am working on some merch, okay, perfect.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Do I get a gift or anything?
I mean, I am working on somemerch.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, perfect, as in my friend's drawing stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So I think the next topic we're going to do is just
some random.
Did you have a topic you wanted?
To start with you use ChatGPT.
Yeah, a lot.
A decent amount A lot, a decentamount there's.
A patient of mine was tellingme that you can ask ChatGPT.
Essentially, you know in ourconversations.
Could you summarize what youthink about me?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Oh and.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
ChatGPT will give you a summary.
And here's the summary.
Let's hear it that ChatGPT gaveme.
You're a milestone maker with asharp spark, Someone who's just
celebrated 50 with style,curiosity and a desire to
reflect and grow.
You ask thoughtful questionsand invite meaningful
conversations, which hints atboth introspection and a desire
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to keep evolving.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
That's pretty accurate.
I thought so too.
What's the milestone thing,though?
What did it say?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Oh, I've turned 50, celebrated a milestone.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh, that's what it means.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You're a milestone maker.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, what is a milestone maker?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I guess if you make it to 50, you've made that
milestone.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Unclear.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Well, I went back and looked I was like what was I
asking it in the last six months?
And it was things like stuffabout a 50th birthday and
questions, very specificquestions, yeah, but question so
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yeah, but I thought that wasinteresting.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You can.
You should try it.
Are you logged in when you usechat gp?
Yes, okay, so I'm not logged in, but I bet it could track my ip
.
Um, do an initial draft to thisclient about xyz and then I
will take that and I'll likewhatever.
So that's not very fun actually.
I use perplexity for that.
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Now they think about it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I have conversations with chat gpt yeah, I'm not in
conversations yeah, and I'm notsure what pronouns I use for
this, so I always call her her,but she remembers things she
asked me about a month afterMother's Day.
I was having anotherconversation and she said how
did your mother like therestaurant that you chose?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
This is creepy.
No, I'm not havingconversations like that I'm
trying to think what I even putin recently in ChatGPT.
It's usually very specificquestions but it's not back and
forth other than to narrow thetopic.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
My cousin has uploaded his thesis into ChatGPT
so that ChatGPT knows how hewrites and thinks, because he
wants to write a book.
I thought that was reallyinteresting, so it takes his
style of thoughts and writing.
So I think it could have somereally cool features.
But I'm not a hundred percentsure that someone's not you know
(22:49):
sitting somewhere writing down.
Philip went to J Alexander'swith his mother.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Philip is scared of this, that's so weird, a little
weird, I don't know.
Wasn't there something recentlythat somebody did say they had
created AI but it turned out itwas like a ton of people, just
like in a warehouse somewhere.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's what I'm thinking Just 500 people.
It's like all right, nicole'son Everybody get ready.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think I heard that on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It wouldn all's on.
Everybody get ready.
I think I heard that on wait,wait, don't tell me, it wouldn't
surprise me.
I mean, it's developing andprogressing very quickly, I
think, so who knows what 10years will look like?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I don't know.
I'm trying to be careful withhow I use it.
I mean, it's nice like I don'tlike writing first drafts of
anything, so that is where ithas been really nice.
Yeah, but I'm definitelyediting and editing as I enjoy
doing.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So the other part of that is there's a company that's
doing that's created AI datingprofiles, and people who are
looking for love it can't findit are buying dating profiles
that match their emotional needsand it's highly successful, and
this is in Asia.
Right now, I think it's inJapan is where it's really big,
(24:00):
but people are dating.
I don't know if it's an AI botbut you've got a little sphere
at your home and you're justtalking to it and it's giving
you the stuff you need from anemotional standpoint.
It's asking you you know youfill out this profile and you
take this emotional test andthen you date your AI.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You date the AI.
I thought you meant like thatwas being used to find you
somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No, you're dating the AI.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I am not at that level yet.
No, you don't need to be atthat level.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You're fine, but it's so wildly popular, what yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I don't like that.
I mean I will.
I will ponder that until ournext conversation and probably
have more thoughts on why that'sso yeah but my, my cousin
actually had a really coolexperience using it.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
She was adopted from korea and she did the 23 and me
and found out she had abiological brother that lived in
Seattle.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
That's cool, she had no idea.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
she had a brother, and so two years ago he flew
down and we got to meet him andit's crazy the way that they've
never met.
Didn't know they existed.
But they laugh the samePersonalities are similar.
It's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, so I'm going to Scotland, which you were there.
Yes, I'm so excited.
This is the third attempt to go.
My mom and I are going, and wehave Scottish on my dad's side.
Scottish and my grandpa didtons of genealogy and so we have
a book on our genealogy.
And my aunt has continued it.
(25:33):
One of my cousins has gotteninto it, but my aunt has been
sending me all like the scottishinformation and like our clan
information and so I'm gonna goto some areas to have, like,
where our clan is from and likeapparently we're related to a
king, like way, way back in like1360 you may have a castle in
your future.
There's a ton of them there, sothere's still a chief of like
(25:57):
clan donald oh, really yeah sohe's there you got to get the.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I noticed while I was there there's so many you know
kilt stores and kilt places andyou go and find your clan and
there's a specific you know kiltcolor and a symbol.
You've got to go do that so.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So my grandpa had a tartan, that's what they're
called Tartan yeah.
Yeah, and he gave it to my auntand so she has like a letter
she sent me like a picture ofhim because he's passed now.
So it's Clan McGregor which wasoutlawed in like the 1600s, and
that's why our ancestorsimmigrated to Ireland and then
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to like the Virginia area of, atthe time, the colonies.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So I'm really like, yeah, the genealogy stuff's
super interesting and just tosee, like, where your DNA comes
from it's a little strange, likehow it's spread all over.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I literally sent in my ancestrycom thing this
morning, um, because I don'tknow if I'll get it back in time
, but I was like that'd be supercool if I could connect with
somebody over there.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
oh for sure, yeah and it's it's been out long enough
that you'll have a lot.
I did mine years ago and it wasa smaller pool of people, so as
it grows, like every yearthere's more people are like hey
I'm your cousin or, hey, I'mrelated, so you may find all
sorts of connections I kind ofgot.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I originally didn't want to do it for a long time
because of dna all the stuff,but I was like I mean, at this
point we're being tracked likewho cares?
Uh, but it's kind of funny.
There was like this disclaimerwhen I entered the code or
something, and it was like youmight find out information you
don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
A little terrifying.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I know I'm like okay.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Police show up.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm like what there must be lawsuits.
Like somebody found somethingout.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
There's actually a lot of information about people
finding out that their parentsweren't their real parents.
You know, based on all sorts ofreasoning, but a lot of that
has happened.
Yeah you know, based on allsorts of reasoning, but a lot of
that has happened, yeah, um.
So I'm sure there's they'retrying to be a little stricter
at warning people.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, about the possibilities yeah, the whole
process, though, is kind offunny to me.
Um, I'm a real follower inthose ways and I was just like,
okay, 30 minutes before I can'teat, I can't drink and then I
was like.
This is a lot of saliva, and Icouldn't tell how full it was
and I was like, how am Isupposed to know?
Very strange spitting in a tubeand then I could not get the
(28:27):
box closed and I was just like Ihave an advanced degree and I
can't duct tape over it I rippedit well.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Well, you should know something.
It only takes what seven days.
It said six weeks.
Oh, mine was.
Well, maybe again it's morepeople now.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I don't know.
I bet you'll get it back beforethen.
I hope so.
Are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
a reveal party Like put the map up.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'm from these places ?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, my dad was like don't forget, we're norwegian
too, and I was like yeah, we'llsee, but they don't have many
kilts, so right, it's not asmuch fun.
Yeah, stick with the kilt.
Yeah, I was mostly.
I was irish and scottish, whichsurprised me yeah, I, I think
I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I know I'm slovakian, swiss, norwegian, scottish.
I'm sure there's other stuff inthere.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Probably some Irish actually.
Oh I bet, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That'll be fun.
I can't wait to find out, I'lldo a reveal on there.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It'll be great, did you have?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
something.
So we do this.
Questions of the week at theclinic and there's been several
recently that have sparked themost I don't know if controversy
is the right word, butquestions, so one was very
simple when you put your shoesand socks on in the morning, can
you tell me how you do that?
Is it sock, sock, shoe, shoe,sock, shoe, sock shoe it's sock,
(29:50):
sock, shoe, shoe thank you dopeople ever.
Why on earth would you do theamount of people who argued with
me that sock shoe, sock shoe isthe normal that's not normal,
because you keep your socks on alot of times like so you just
this is.
This would be like when you gotout of the shower.
The actual question is when youget out of the shower and get
(30:11):
dressed, how do you do it right?
And the argument was like well,when you put your sock on, you
don't want to put it down andget it dirty, so you go ahead
and put it in the shoe.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'm like how dirty is your house and your bare foot
is standing on the ground anywayyeah, how dirty could your sock
get in just like that onemoment, like are you?
Do you never clean your entry?
Like what's going?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
on.
Yes, so we're, we're both onteam sock, sock, shoe, shoe.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, okay, listeners should tell us what team
they're on.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I need to know if this is really a thing, because
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I would never have thought about that.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
The other question was if you could be an animal,
any animal in the world for oneweek.
You will be the animals intheir brain.
You'll be able to do everythingthey can do, but you'll also
have your you know mind andyou'll remember all this.
What animal would you want tobe for one week?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I feel like being a bird of some sort, because then
you get to fly, because thatwould be very different you want
to be the big like, a big onelike an eagle, yeah, like
something that's not um, or likean owl, something that's a
predator.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So you're not having to worry yeah, you don't look
over your shoulder for a wholeweek yeah I went with dolphin
because I think I don't knowjust the idea of the fast
swimming I'm not a fast swimmer,um and jumping, I feel like I
would be one of the dolphinsthat was always by the cruise
ships, like get my picture taken.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
He's showing off.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Right, like here he goes again.
Oh a double flip.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
He looks like the center of attention.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
But bird was number one, monkey was number two with
everybody Bird was number one.
Monkey was number two.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That's actually that, and dog came to mind.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, but dog was more because it's like you're
just always happy.
One of my patients said shesaid, oh, cat.
I said why cat?
She said because you get to napall day.
I'm like you want to do thatfor a week, just nap you could
take a vacation, yeah, for aweek.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I don't know cat I.
Well, there's a whole littlediscussion I want to have with
you at a different date aboutwhy, where this cat lady issue
is coming from and like where itstemmed from.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
But we're gonna save that okay, because I feel like
that's a bigger discussion.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, um, the other thing I had was just some.
Okay, so I traveled toMinnesota and I went first class
, because so when I go to she'sgot money.
I really don't Money, but often, like so often, it's not very
expensive to Minnesota to dofirst class and it's easier on
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me generally to be able to dothat.
I don't do that everywhere.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
But it's, you just have more space, and it's just
like pleasant.
The last time I did it, though,I ended up next to this really
drunk lady.
I mean, she got progressivelydrunker.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
She started drunk and got worse.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yes, and she was like .
Her eyes were like closing thatlevel of drunk and there were
multiple times where she justwas staring at me.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Hold on, she's sitting beside you.
Yeah, so she's turned.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah.
We were having a conversationand then I was trying to, and
then I put my headphones on andI look over and she's just like
staring at me and I took themoff and I was like what's up?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
What you doing, boo.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
She really wanted to stay in touch and then she tried
to set me up with the guyacross the aisle.
So that was a bad first date,did you?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
allow her to do that.
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Just check it out.
No, I really did not want to beinvolved.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know if it was love in the air or not.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, there was nothing .
No, it was not.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
My rule when I fly is don't engage.
I used to be.
You know me.
I talk to anybody, yeah, assoon as I sat down, just right
into conversation, but thenyou're locked in.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Like there's no guarantee that they won't
interrupt you at any point totalk, so I lock in Earphones if
I've got a hood hood up Laserfocused on something.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, no talking, that's what I've been doing
lately, because I mean, I've hadmultiple occasions where I'm
just like trapped and it wasjust because I was like, hi, how
are you doing?
Like?
This is not an opening to likeyour life story.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Right.
Start at the beginning and tellme everything that you've gone
through.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, but OK.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I had a couple of revelations On the flight.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
In the airport.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Have you ever thought about why airports call it
ground transportation?
You see the sign and you'rejust like I know that's the
taxis and stuff, but like itmakes sense because there's air
transportation going on at anairport.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
So they're just making sure we know that it's
not a plane.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I've never thought of that.
Do you think it should just betransportation?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, I guess, save the sign.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Don't have to make a big sign.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, it just came to me.
I was just staring at it, I waslike, why is it called ground
transportation?
And I'm like, oh, because it'snot an airplane, but it's like.
Well, I mean, I know it's notbecause I'm not in security
anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, I don't think people are getting confused once
they leave the airport?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Oh, but don't get on another plane, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
The other thing is I saw these people with, like you
know, the double stroller likeside by side.
There was only one kid.
Where's the other kid?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
all right, let's think through this like are they
planning ahead?
Maybe they've planned out afamily and they got it.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I got a cheap deal maybe on a double stroller I
don't know, or like they'reusing it for their bags or
something.
I mean, there wasn't anythingthere, but I was like there was
literally not another kid it'sactually a way that people steal
quite often is a doublestroller.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
There'll be a kid in the front and then a blanket
over the back, as if the otherchild's sleeping.
I don't know who's stealingfrom the airport, but I don't
know.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
But I mean they were like the ones where it's like a
toddler, you know, like whereit's bigger.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, it was very weird yeah, I need to dig into
that.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I was like did you lose the other right?
I mean, that's, the kid took anearlier flight I'll meet you
there so I don't know yeah, um.
And then the other thing isthat I think that anyone who is
on speakerphone or facetimeshould be banished from the
airport forever.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
It infuriates me.
So rude and I don't evenunderstand.
There's a woman at Publix thatI have seen now four times and I
don't know we must time ourschedules correctly.
She's always on the phone andit is laying in her cart and
she's off getting something andscreaming back and you can hear
the person going What'd you say?
I want to hang it up.
(36:55):
I think the speakerphonefeature should be deactivated in
public.
I think once you leave yourhome, it should be when would
you use speaker?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I just don't understand people who are just
walking along like this and I'mlike is there a medical reason
for this?
Like is it like put on yourheadphones.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I'm all about multitasking, but that's why
headphones were invented forsure yeah, I don't, I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I was like trying to get this like quiet area and
suddenly this lady like picks upher phone and like starts
yelling into FaceTime and I waslike Furious.
Oh my gosh, and my flight hadbeen delayed seven hours and I
was like, I am so cranky Likeyou can't be Furious.
Yeah, I might have given her aglare as I left.
My sister calls it my deathglare.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I love a good glare.
I love a good glare.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, I try not to do it anymore, but I definitely
like I was like walking by, juststaring.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But then if they don't see, you give them the
glare.
You have to wait for them tospot you.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
So you have to hold the glare.
I tried to make sure I got intothe FaceTime.
I was like hurt.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Here's popping your head up behind.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
At least the person who she was speaking to saw it
as I walked behind her.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I have a patient that comes in the clinic, that is,
she talks to her friend for sixto seven hours a day, what?
And it's on and it's just goinglike we have a full session and
every once in a while you'rehere talking and I'm, and I ask
her one day.
I'm like who are you talking to?
And she's like my friend, shedoesn't live in the us, we talk
all day oh my gosh I don't even.
I was like what do you talkabout?
She's like sometimes we'll justgo for 30, 45 minutes without
(38:34):
talking like hang the phone up.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
It's called codependence.
Hang the phone up.
That's crazy.
Okay, um salsa update it'sperfect it's perfect two serrano
chilies.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Remove the seeds of one okay it brings it to a six
on the heat scale Shockinglygood.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I'll have to make it for you.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Please do.
My mom suggested that we try iton here.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Against other salsas and see if we could figure out
which one it was 100%.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, get three other green salsas.
Let me bring mine and let's see.
Yeah, I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Green salsa, other green salsas, let me bring mine
and let's see, yeah, I guaranteeyou green salsa.
Yeah, okay and okay.
So my cranial sacral lady, youknow she's got good advice.
Uh, she I mentioned.
I don't know why I mentionedthe salsa, but I did.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
He's just laying on the table philip's making salsa
like who's philip?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
um, I think she has this crazy, amazing and.
I think, it was something alongthose lines.
But she then proceeded to giveme a full recipe.
To tell you, I remember verylittle of it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, what do you remember?
Here's what I remember.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
She said use a cast iron skillet called a Kamal
C-O-M-A-L.
I Googled it Okay.
And you char the veggies aheadof time.
On it you only use onetomatillo.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That's what I remember interesting because
this has like eight to tentomatillos okay yeah, that's a
vast difference between what isit?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
tomatillo?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
yeah, a green tomato, but I don't.
I don't know if that's theexact definition, but if you
looked at it it's and you cut it, it looks like a green tomato
flavorful or eat, or so no, ifyou just did it, it's kind of a,
I don't know.
It's got a little cis, a littlemore citrusy okay feel to it,
but you definitely need to addstuff.
I don't know if people are justeating just plain tomatillos.
(40:26):
I've always had it eitherroasted in something or in a
salsa are you roasting yourveggies?
of course, okay.
Who doesn't roast their veggies?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I mean, I do love that, but I've never made salsa.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Okay, so you've got some of that.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Do you have a Kamal?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
No, but I'm going to order one as soon as I leave.
I don't even know what it is,but I need to look it up.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
It's a cast iron, okay.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I have a cast iron skillet, but that's the southern
version yeah, you shouldcompare it okay, they look like.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
So all right, what are you obsessing over lately?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
the um frozen potato and lentil samosas frozen, say
it again frozen.
I'm only mentioning thatbecause it's in the frozen
section of publics.
It is a potato and lentilsamosa, so it's like a fried
dough stuffed with potato andlentils.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
It's an Indian food right?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yes, indian food and it comes with this little packet
of kind of spicy cilantro sauce.
Nicole, I have six boxes in myfreezer now.
Air fryer seven minutes, it isheaven.
Sounds really good, and I'm nota frozen food guy.
I'm always trying to cook and Ijust happen to get it one day,
randomly obsessed.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I wish I could try that.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So good, what about you?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
My friend Prash had made samosas and I actually just
I tried one anyway and I onlygot a little bit stomachache
because of the gluten.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
But it was very good.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
So, honestly, I'm just obsessing over my scotland
trip.
We're gonna hike ben, soexcited for, yes, did you hike
it?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
yes, okay, I want to ask we did not do the full thing
um I.
I can't remember how long itwas, but yeah both of the hikes
we did it was extremely rainy,very windy and we and my father
was bilateral total kneereplacements so we didn't want
to be gone too long, so we woulddo.
Sometimes half of these hikesStore, I think, is the other one
(42:26):
, this big rock structure.
That was pretty amazing.
We did Ben Nevis and one otherone.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
My mom really like she.
She said that's what she'slooking forward to most.
I mean we love hiking but wedid read about like the weather
can change real fast so likewe've agreed we turn around if
it's not looking good, um, butit so for the listeners.
It is the tallest mountain inthe uk and it's like 4 000 feet
feet, I think.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, I'll defer to you on that.
Yeah, 4,000.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, so I think like anyone can kind of do it if you
don't have an injury.
But it is still.
It's the weather you have to becareful of.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
And there's moments, there's parts where you're like,
oh God, this is treacherous.
Okay, but like it's not.
You're not hanging off the sideof a cliff.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You just need to be mindful when you step across
this crag or whatever like yeahone could fall, but one could
fall, one will not fall, onewill not, will not, no um?
What's your recommendationtoday?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
um, there's a podcast .
I completely binged um, I thinkthere may be seven or eight
episodes what happened to TalenaZar?
And it takes place at the, inthe middle of COVID, where a
woman post a Facebook post thatsays she's got COVID and she's
going to her cabin and she doesnot want to be disturbed and
(43:46):
she's not sure if she's going tomake it through this because
she's got some othercomorbidities and then they
never hear from.
No one hears from her again,and so the story starts there,
and this team of online sleuthsfrom all over the us who obsess
over crime podcast figure outwhat happened to her, and it is
shocking okay, it's so good,especially because like it's?
(44:08):
it involves, you know, a lady inkansas who you know works at a
bar, and there's a woman incolorado who does it, and they
all are talking online andthey're interviewing people and
they help the police find whathappened to her.
So, check that one out.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah, my recommendation is also a podcast
called Wild Thing.
It's about Bigfoot.
It's so interesting, but it'sseason one of Wild Thing and I
listened to this in 2020.
It's not a newer one, but thehost is a journalist and so she
finds out that one of herdistant uncles or cousins or
(44:48):
something like that, was like aforemost expert on Bigfoot, and
she goes down that how do youbecome foremost expert on
bigfoot?
and she goes down that commonexpert on bigfoot he's like an
anthropologist and she goes intoall this research and she goes
on these trips and I won't tellyou the ending, you know but
it's worth it.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's so good, okay, yeah, all right, I need another
one, so I'll start today one,yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
What are you looking forward to this week?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
This week it's a normal week for me, so I'm just
excited.
The last three weeks have beencrazy Every night having
something going on.
You know me overscheduledalways.
This week I have nothing goingon until Friday.
I'm going to Zany's and I justforgot the name of the comedian
but I'm going with some friends.
I'm super excited about that.
So I'm excited for a chill,routine week that will end with
(45:37):
laughter.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Sometimes that's what you really need.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
I am looking forward to my Bigfoot conference Is it
this week.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Weekend it's this week.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah, mariana and I leave on Thursday.
We have an Airbnb in theSmokies we're going to hike.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I cannot wait.
You're going to do some videostuff, right?
I need to see what these peopleare doing.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, respectfully.
Yeah, of course yes.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
But I just want to see, like is there a convention?
Are they selling goods?
What are they?
Speaker 1 (46:07):
selling, so I know there are vendors.
And I told Mariana she was likeare there speakers?
And I was like yeah, that'slike the whole thing.
And I feel like I said want togo to a Bigfoot conference?
And she just said yes, and nowshe's all more excited because
(46:30):
she never looked into it.
She's like this is great, umyeah, so there's speakers and
vendors and we'll find out whatelse um, is there like a dance
at the end?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
like a bigfoot dance?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
not that I'm aware of , but that would be.
That would be pretty this isgoing to be exciting yeah, and
then I think sunday we leave,but I I'm looking forward to
quiet sunday morning at theAirbnb.
I think we'll probably stayuntil checkout so that we can
just have.
I just love being in theSmokies.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
It's very relaxing.
That's going to be great.
Yeah, I'm excited for you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Well, thanks for being here, Philip.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
You're welcome, Nicole.
Thank you yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Thanks for joining me on my crunchy zen era.
Please leave a rating, a reviewand comments so we can talk
about them in the future.
Okay, bye, bye.
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(47:29):
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Editing is by Drew HarrisonMedia and recording is done by
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Thanks for hanging out.
We'll be back next week.
Philip.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hello, what's something?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
crunchier than you've done lately.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right.
Have you heard of silentwalking Stick with me?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
No yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I hadn't either.
So you know, I was trying to dothe positive affirmations thing
and I couldn't do that reallywell.
And there's this trend that Isaw, and it's essentially silent
exercise and the theory is likeyou spend so much time with
something in your ear, listening, focusing on on something else,
and you're not focusing onyourself.
And I'm trying to walk,exercise, and all that without
(00:31):
any type of airpod, earbud oranything.
Very difficult, by the way.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I I do that with at work often like I go outside and
I just leave it behind becauseI need to just like rest.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
And you find it helpful.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I do Quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I think it's good.
It's just I spend a lot of time, probably not helping myself,
but just like random thoughtswhat's she wearing?
Why are they doing that?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's not really self-help stuff, but I'm trying
it, so you're supposed to doself-help.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, you're supposed to just be introspective.
Yeah, you're supposed to justbe introspective.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
What's going?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
on with you.
How was your day?
Kind of asking yourselfquestions what are you planning
for, what are you excited about?
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, I don't do that part, so maybe I'll have to.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, start.
I've had four, five days of itnow and so far so good.
I'm proud of myself, I likethat.
So if you see me with AirPods,just rip them out.
Silence.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I've been using corded AirPods.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I don't know if that's still AirPods, but
because of, like, the EMFradiation stuff.
Okay, so I've heard that it'sbetter to take a break.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That's why I'm doing it, the EMF stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's exactly why, of course, look at my bracelets
for EMF oh, I wondered, whatthat was they were yeah, yeah,
it's a whole thing.
I also have a hat.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm all on board you're all in, yeah, all in um.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So I lately have been putting iodine on my hands.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
All right, nicole, I'm all ears, walk me through
this medical marvel.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
My iodine is low and I'm having a hard time getting
it in my diet.
So my cranial sacral lady, whois clearly a doctor, suggested
getting medical iodine, you knowlike putting on cuts.
Yeah, and just putting it on myhands and then just like
letting it soak in, becausethings soak in through your skin
.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And you never wash it off.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I do wash it off.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
How long are you waiting?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Like five minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Have you noticed any changes in your palm, like the
color of your skin or your palm?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Uh-uh.
No, I just envision it lookedlike self-tanning oil.
It does look like that whenit's on there, but it's not.
I mean, it comes right off.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So that's what I'm doing okay, yeah, how does one
track that you just get bloodwork done again to yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I use function health okay, and so I go twice a year
and get blood tests done thatjust come to my come to me, not
through a doctor and then I cango to a doctor, are you pouring
it on, do you?
Dip it, I pour it.
It's like a couple of drips.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, I'm going to check your palms soon.
Sounds good.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Welcome to my Crunchy Zen Era.
We're a weekly podcast filledwith a little fun, a little
humor and a whole lot ofcuriosity.
My guest this week is returningPhilip Hedrick.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hello Nicole, Hello again.
Thank you for having me back.
I'm excited for it.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
What's your favorite way to spend a Sunday?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I love brunch a Sunday brunch.
I have a group of friends thatwe do.
We rotate restaurants.
You get to try some new stuff.
Usually five to seven of uswill do that.
Go get a few drinks.
I have a strict rule that myalarm goes off at 6 pm.
I have to be either home or onthe way home by 6.
(04:01):
That's smart and then from 6until whatever time I go to bed,
it is Uber Eats, somethingdifferent, something maybe I've
been obsessed with Vietnameselately, but in a movie or
documentary, so I get a littletime with friends and some
one-on-one time to kind offinish out the week.
That's my favorite way to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That sounds wonderful .
Yeah, yeah, I like to take itreally slow and just wake up on
my own time, have a coffee, siton the balcony, do some
journaling, read my Bible, justhave some quiet time, and I try
not to turn on a podcast oranything, just silence.
And then I just kind of hangout.
(04:39):
Or if a friend calls, I'll dothat.
My time is 3 o'clock.
I want to be home by threeo'clock.
I don't want to be talking toanyone Like, I just want to be
alone.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Do you have a bedtime on Sunday night?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean I try to go be like in bed at nine.
That doesn't mean I'm fallingasleep, Like usually Sundays.
I struggle.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, same.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Anticipating the week yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And if your sunday goes off rails, does that affect
your week?
Because I noticed, like, if Iget home late, like I'm having a
good time, I get home late,it's like, oh gosh, I don't have
time to do this.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Then I've already started the week slightly
stressed so yes, I would, Iwould definitely agree with that
I think some of it's in my heada little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh, absolutely it's all this mental.
I'm always saying it to himlike it's fine.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
it's in my head a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh, absolutely, I'm always saying it to him like
it's fine, it's one hour late,calm down.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'm still stressed.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, if I'm not, if I don't have like my lunch made
or my clothes figured out orwhatever, I feel like this week
is bad.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We're going to do something a little different
today.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes, we have some listener comments questions, so
people should definitely besending them in in the future.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
The first one is from Angie in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Hello, Angie Also known as my sister, which you'll
tell from this.
This is in response toirrational fears Okay.
She just texted me and saidalso your fear of dead bodies in
the rivers.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is it a fear?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, it was a very like big fear.
My grandparents lived on theMississippi River and so
sometimes we would get in thewater there.
My best friends also had a boatand they lived on the
mississippi river and sosometimes we would get in the
water there.
My best friends also had a boatand they lived across the
street so we would often go onthe boat in the river and I
wouldn't get in to the riverlike I would go.
Like at my grandparents.
(06:38):
You could touch the ground for afew feet in and I would stay
right there, but in the middleof the river like no, because I
always assumed I would jump offthe boat and land on a dead body
, because people die in theMississippi oh, yeah, of course,
all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, the percentage chance of you at the same time
jumping and landing on afloating dead body?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think is pretty high.
I understand it, even if it'snot a dead body.
It's like a log or something.
People would water ski in theMississippi.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
There's nothing worse than being in a lake and
something brushes your leg.
It's never just like a treelimb.
In my mind it's alligatorcrocodile dead body.
Dead body, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I mean my cousin Catherine, calling her out on
this.
Let's go katherine.
Katherine convinced me thatthere were freshwater sharks in
the mississippi, and she she tothis day is like.
I don't remember doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm like you did it freshwater sharks do they exist
I don't, I mean, I'm assumingwhen, like the, the saltwater
freshwater meet maybe there's acouple sharks hanging out.
I don't think they make it allthe way up the Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I noticed the other day.
I have this irrational fear ofgarages, like getting home into
a garage, like I can't get outof my car until the garage door
is completely closed, and it isalways my thought is, someone
slides under the door in thelast two seconds and I miss it
(08:12):
and then I'm caged in with aserial killer.
So I stay in the car and wehave to wait one, two, all right
, let's go are you?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
are you watching?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
oh, I'm watching okay .
Speaker 1 (08:22):
How can you be sure you're seeing both sides?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm doing this, but now.
So I'm parking in an actualparking garage now.
So now I'm back in and there'salways probably someone under
the car the other cars.
So I open the door and I waitin case the hatchet, because
they're trying to get myAchilles tendons.
So I wait.
If there's no hatchet, I getout and I'm constant heads on a
(08:49):
swivel.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Wasn't that like an urban legend going around?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I think that really affected me, like there was
somebody slicing Achillestendons at malls.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Was that an impressionable age for you that
you heard this?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Apparently, because many years later, I'm still
pausing to get out of my car.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I always think of the one at the gas station about
somebody climbing into the car.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Oh, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I do always lock my door when I'm getting gas.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I lock my door everywhere.
I lock my bathroom door in myplace alone when I go to the
bathroom.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I don't do that.
I mean, I'm showering.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You shower with the door unlocked.
Yeah, oh well, it's a perfecttime for the killer to get in.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't sleep with my door unlocked, though.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Like I have to have my master bedroom door locked.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Which I think a lot of times now.
I just like shower, though,like my master bath is in there
oh, and so it's probably lockedmine's separate so yeah are we
crazy?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
oh, this is normal, this is so normal, very normal.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I uh, uh.
Last weekend I finally wentthrough and changed all the
simply safe batteries because,like one window had been out for
a long time and then the doorwent out and and I was like I
can't with this.
But it feels like I can't keepup with the batteries in my
house.
But I was like my roommate wasout of town and then I didn't,
(10:13):
you know, for the first time Iwas alone without my dog, and
you know whether or not he'shaunting the house, who knows.
But I just was a little jumpierand was like.
I'm changing all these.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I want the alarms fully on, and they definitely
are now if you could build yourown home, would you put a panic
room in your house?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
what an interesting thought.
Yes, I would.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I think I like a glamorous panic room would be so
cool.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I think I would use it a lot but, like it's not that
I'm always panicked, but whatwas that noise to?
The panic room yeah, I likehaving a room I could go to
where, like I know, there's onlyone way in so I I do think
about, like what if an intrudercame and my thought is I quickly
go into my bathroom, so I'dhave double locked doors, make
(11:02):
sure, sure I have my phone, andthen I'd like lean against the
Good plan.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, the more doors to break through the better.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Do you want to know something terrifying about my
house?
Maybe, Okay, I live in a newersubdivision.
Before I moved in the housenext door and the one next door
that were broken into the one atthe end was empty, but the one
next door to mine she was therewith her two kids and the
(11:34):
intruders got all the wayupstairs and she woke up to them
standing over her.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Done, yeah, done.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And when I heard this story, that's when I got my
alarm system in.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Did you hear this before you moved in?
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I had no idea, and my new neighbor, so that lady
moved, which makes sense becausethat's very traumatic.
The new neighbor, after she hadbeen there for a bit, we met
and she was like I didn't knowabout this history when I bought
the house.
I'm like I don't think they hadto disclose that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I guess not.
Yeah, I'd be terrified.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But that was I guess they said it was in 2020 or 2021
, and it was like pretty emptyand stuff was happening.
So I feel very confident aboutwhere I live now, but when I
heard that I was like nope.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, I've been over there.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It feels really safe to me, it's totally fine.
Yeah, now I'm gonna be nervous,okay.
Next comment Maddie inMinnesota, episode one uh, wait,
no, this was from doesn'tmatter.
Um, what's your favoritestand-up joke you've ever
written?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
oh, yeah, um gosh, that really put me on the spot.
Oh yeah, gosh, that really putme on the spot there.
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
what my favorite joke is of yours.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I don't know if I'm going to be able to say it right
.
Do you care if I share?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
it no go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's the one where you're like they're all telling
me not to have trans fats andI'm like trans fats are fats too
.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And that was in the first set.
I like the whole first set forclass.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That was a good one, yeah you know, I think we talked
about this last time.
I was going back recently andrereading some of the jokes and
then like they, like youmentioned, they're not as
relevant, so it's like I'mhaving to go through and like
tweak things too.
So it's a different form of thesame joke, but trying to like
update it, which seems weirdbecause it's only been like a
year since.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I wrote it, but it's like I'm like that doesn't seem
as funny anymore yeah, I don'tknow if my humor is changing or
like it could be, yeah, likeyou're growing as comedian you
have you've seen like differentthings yeah, yeah.
I think my favorite joke, Ithink it's my joke about cults
of like all my all the women inmy family are on Facebook
(13:51):
Marketplace.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it goes.
Wait, how does it go?
It goes, oh my gosh, I don'tremember.
I've been trying new things.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I don't remember, because my favorite one of yours
is um about the potato in thepocket, which is totally true,
yeah so the potato in the pocketis.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I lived with my grandparents for a semester in
college in minnesota, very cold,and my grandma was always
worried I wasn't eating enough,and so one day I was going to
Starbucks to study and she hadmade hot baked potatoes and she
was like you should bring thiswith you just in case they run
(14:34):
out of food and you're hungry.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
She envisioned you walking down the road with a
potato in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
She had potatoes all the time.
I feel like it was like a GreatDepression thing oh yeah like
she and my grandpa, and when,when we went to like clean out
the house, there was like Ithink it was like onions and
potatoes, like had grownsomewhere, and it's like same
thing at my grandparents house.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
When we cleaned it out in the basement there were
probably 500 jars full of likevegetables that had been saved
for just in case, and most ofthem were ruined, but like it
looked like a grocery store downthere yeah but depression my
dad.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Does that not a depression child?
No yeah his is like mandarinoranges and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's afraid they're going to run out.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I guess, I don't know .
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He's buying them in bulk.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I mean, he just so.
The thing with my dad is whenyou tell him here's an example I
was just home and we ran out ofgluten-free pancake mix and my
mom was like, can you go picksome more up?
And he comes back with two bags.
He never gets one, he alwaysgets two.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
My dad does that too.
What is that?
Mom's always like?
He's always afraid he's notgoing to get enough.
He'll always buy like twospices, two of something, Mom's
like I just said, one.
It's like well, you don't haveto buy this in the future.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, and I know during COVID he ended up buying
like tons of peanut butter.
That was.
I'm okay with that yeah, I mean, peanut butter is great creamy
crunchy.
I like crunchy well, figures,crunchies in.
I was like what are you talkingabout?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
now are you a cereal eater sometimes did you know
that there is a new cereal outthat is specifically to be
paired with orange juice?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, that sounds gross .
My dad's been doing that foryears.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Really, Because that's like a new trend now, too
is orange juice and cereal.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
He's been putting orange juice, or any juice, in
cereal for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, Tropicana has this new Tropicana Crunch that's
supposed to pair.
It's like to cut the citrus ofthe orange juice.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And now you's supposed to pair.
It's like to cut the citrus ofthe orange juice and then you're
supposed to absolutely not.
No, it's a no for me.
Yeah, uh.
Maddie also made arecommendation for a self-help
book.
It's called laziness does notexist by dr devon price.
She said it's for burned outoverachievers, which I don't
know if she's like to saysomething, but thanks for that.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, that sounds interesting.
It does sound interesting.
Yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Wait, did you say you had a favorite of your jokes?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, I was trying to think of one.
The only one I could think ofis slightly inappropriate.
Okay, I might know what it isAnyway.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So from episode two on um, on primitive camping, my
roommate gave some feedback.
I mean, he gave me a long listof recommendations on it.
We're going to just start withthe first one.
And he says you don't need, initalics, a fire.
Fire bans are common in summerand, honestly, by the time you
(17:44):
roll into camp you're usuallytoo tired to build one anyway.
That's why fall hiking isunderrated cooler temps, fewer
people and no bugs.
Just invest in a jet boil or asolid msr stove and call it good
.
Pro tip msr fuel can double asa fire starter in a pinch.
(18:04):
Just don't be dumb with it.
Don't burn the forest down.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I feel like, though, a fire starter kit, or the jet
boil, whatever it's called,doesn't go with primitive
camping in my mind.
Primitive camping I'm I mean,everything is off the land,
right, that's.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean, I guess it's what you make it yeah.
I still haven't googled it.
Why didn't I google it?
It's true.
I mean, I googled how to starta fire and then I was like, hey,
nick, can we go to the deepwell entrance and start a fire
in one of the fire bits.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't think I've ever started a fire without um
the accelerant.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I don't know if I've ever started a fire.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
But all that to say.
I do feel like you need to knowhow to do it, though.
Sure, I need to get the jetfuel package, or and now my
follow-up question, though, tohim is like so like, what are
you eating?
So like, if you're not doing afire, maybe they're doing those
like mre things where you justadd water.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You go down to the creek, get you some water and
then you'd get beef stroganoffin two minutes I just don't know
I'm only out there for a day ortwo, I mean, if I'm starving
maybe, but I'm not gonna, I'drather just eat a granola bar.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Bugs For protein.
Alright, well, so we're pullingcomments From YouTube,
Instagram, TikTok Facebook groupand I said TikTok again, so
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me.
So like a really helpful andeasy way that you could support
the show without like givingmoney, which I'll take, but it
(19:41):
would be to leave like a rating,review or like follow us and
subscribe.
So that's my pitch.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I rated it.
You did, I did.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do I get a gift or anything?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I mean, I am working on some merch, okay, perfect.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Do I get a gift or anything?
I mean, I am working on somemerch.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, perfect, as in my friend's drawing stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So I think the next topic we're going to do is just
some random.
Did you have a topic you wanted?
To start with you use ChatGPT.
Yeah, a lot.
A decent amount A lot, a decentamount there's.
A patient of mine was tellingme that you can ask ChatGPT.
Essentially, you know in ourconversations.
Could you summarize what youthink about me?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Oh and.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
ChatGPT will give you a summary.
And here's the summary.
Let's hear it that ChatGPT gaveme.
You're a milestone maker with asharp spark, Someone who's just
celebrated 50 with style,curiosity and a desire to
reflect and grow.
You ask thoughtful questionsand invite meaningful
conversations, which hints atboth introspection and a desire
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to keep evolving.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
That's pretty accurate.
I thought so too.
What's the milestone thing,though?
What did it say?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Oh, I've turned 50, celebrated a milestone.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh, that's what it means.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You're a milestone maker.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, what is a milestone maker?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I guess if you make it to 50, you've made that
milestone.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Unclear.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Well, I went back and looked I was like what was I
asking it in the last six months?
And it was things like stuffabout a 50th birthday and
questions, very specificquestions, yeah, but question so
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yeah, but I thought that wasinteresting.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You can.
You should try it.
Are you logged in when you usechat gp?
Yes, okay, so I'm not logged in, but I bet it could track my ip
.
Um, do an initial draft to thisclient about xyz and then I
will take that and I'll likewhatever.
So that's not very fun actually.
I use perplexity for that.
(21:48):
Now they think about it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I have conversations with chat gpt yeah, I'm not in
conversations yeah, and I'm notsure what pronouns I use for
this, so I always call her her,but she remembers things she
asked me about a month afterMother's Day.
I was having anotherconversation and she said how
did your mother like therestaurant that you chose?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
This is creepy.
No, I'm not havingconversations like that I'm
trying to think what I even putin recently in ChatGPT.
It's usually very specificquestions but it's not back and
forth other than to narrow thetopic.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
My cousin has uploaded his thesis into ChatGPT
so that ChatGPT knows how hewrites and thinks, because he
wants to write a book.
I thought that was reallyinteresting, so it takes his
style of thoughts and writing.
So I think it could have somereally cool features.
But I'm not a hundred percentsure that someone's not you know
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sitting somewhere writing down.
Philip went to J Alexander'swith his mother.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Philip is scared of this, that's so weird, a little
weird, I don't know.
Wasn't there something recentlythat somebody did say they had
created AI but it turned out itwas like a ton of people, just
like in a warehouse somewhere.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's what I'm thinking Just 500 people.
It's like all right, nicole'son Everybody get ready.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think I heard that on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It wouldn all's on.
Everybody get ready.
I think I heard that on wait,wait, don't tell me, it wouldn't
surprise me.
I mean, it's developing andprogressing very quickly, I
think, so who knows what 10years will look like?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I don't know.
I'm trying to be careful withhow I use it.
I mean, it's nice like I don'tlike writing first drafts of
anything, so that is where ithas been really nice.
Yeah, but I'm definitelyediting and editing as I enjoy
doing.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So the other part of that is there's a company that's
doing that's created AI datingprofiles, and people who are
looking for love it can't findit are buying dating profiles
that match their emotional needsand it's highly successful, and
this is in Asia.
Right now, I think it's inJapan is where it's really big,
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but people are dating.
I don't know if it's an AI botbut you've got a little sphere
at your home and you're justtalking to it and it's giving
you the stuff you need from anemotional standpoint.
It's asking you you know youfill out this profile and you
take this emotional test andthen you date your AI.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You date the AI.
I thought you meant like thatwas being used to find you
somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No, you're dating the AI.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I am not at that level yet.
No, you don't need to be atthat level.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You're fine, but it's so wildly popular, what yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I don't like that.
I mean I will.
I will ponder that until ournext conversation and probably
have more thoughts on why that'sso yeah but my, my cousin
actually had a really coolexperience using it.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
She was adopted from korea and she did the 23 and me
and found out she had abiological brother that lived in
Seattle.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
That's cool, she had no idea.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
she had a brother, and so two years ago he flew
down and we got to meet him andit's crazy the way that they've
never met.
Didn't know they existed.
But they laugh the samePersonalities are similar.
It's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, so I'm going to Scotland, which you were there.
Yes, I'm so excited.
This is the third attempt to go.
My mom and I are going, and wehave Scottish on my dad's side.
Scottish and my grandpa didtons of genealogy and so we have
a book on our genealogy.
And my aunt has continued it.
(25:33):
One of my cousins has gotteninto it, but my aunt has been
sending me all like the scottishinformation and like our clan
information and so I'm gonna goto some areas to have, like,
where our clan is from and likeapparently we're related to a
king, like way, way back in like1360 you may have a castle in
your future.
There's a ton of them there, sothere's still a chief of like
(25:57):
clan donald oh, really yeah sohe's there you got to get the.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I noticed while I was there there's so many you know
kilt stores and kilt places andyou go and find your clan and
there's a specific you know kiltcolor and a symbol.
You've got to go do that so.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So my grandpa had a tartan, that's what they're
called Tartan yeah.
Yeah, and he gave it to my auntand so she has like a letter
she sent me like a picture ofhim because he's passed now.
So it's Clan McGregor which wasoutlawed in like the 1600s, and
that's why our ancestorsimmigrated to Ireland and then
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to like the Virginia area of, atthe time, the colonies.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So I'm really like, yeah, the genealogy stuff's
super interesting and just tosee, like, where your DNA comes
from it's a little strange, likehow it's spread all over.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I literally sent in my ancestrycom thing this
morning, um, because I don'tknow if I'll get it back in time
, but I was like that'd be supercool if I could connect with
somebody over there.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
oh for sure, yeah and it's it's been out long enough
that you'll have a lot.
I did mine years ago and it wasa smaller pool of people, so as
it grows, like every yearthere's more people are like hey
I'm your cousin or, hey, I'mrelated, so you may find all
sorts of connections I kind ofgot.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I originally didn't want to do it for a long time
because of dna all the stuff,but I was like I mean, at this
point we're being tracked likewho cares?
Uh, but it's kind of funny.
There was like this disclaimerwhen I entered the code or
something, and it was like youmight find out information you
don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
A little terrifying.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I know I'm like okay.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Police show up.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm like what there must be lawsuits.
Like somebody found somethingout.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
There's actually a lot of information about people
finding out that their parentsweren't their real parents.
You know, based on all sorts ofreasoning, but a lot of that
has happened.
Yeah you know, based on allsorts of reasoning, but a lot of
that has happened, yeah, um.
So I'm sure there's they'retrying to be a little stricter
at warning people.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, about the possibilities yeah, the whole
process, though, is kind offunny to me.
Um, I'm a real follower inthose ways and I was just like,
okay, 30 minutes before I can'teat, I can't drink and then I
was like.
This is a lot of saliva, and Icouldn't tell how full it was
and I was like, how am Isupposed to know?
Very strange spitting in a tubeand then I could not get the
(28:27):
box closed and I was just like Ihave an advanced degree and I
can't duct tape over it I rippedit well.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Well, you should know something.
It only takes what seven days.
It said six weeks.
Oh, mine was.
Well, maybe again it's morepeople now.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I don't know.
I bet you'll get it back beforethen.
I hope so.
Are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
a reveal party Like put the map up.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'm from these places ?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, my dad was like don't forget, we're norwegian
too, and I was like yeah, we'llsee, but they don't have many
kilts, so right, it's not asmuch fun.
Yeah, stick with the kilt.
Yeah, I was mostly.
I was irish and scottish, whichsurprised me yeah, I, I think
I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I know I'm slovakian, swiss, norwegian, scottish.
I'm sure there's other stuff inthere.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Probably some Irish actually.
Oh I bet, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That'll be fun.
I can't wait to find out, I'lldo a reveal on there.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It'll be great, did you have?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
something.
So we do this.
Questions of the week at theclinic and there's been several
recently that have sparked themost I don't know if controversy
is the right word, butquestions, so one was very
simple when you put your shoesand socks on in the morning, can
you tell me how you do that?
Is it sock, sock, shoe, shoe,sock, shoe, sock shoe it's sock,
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sock, shoe, shoe thank you dopeople ever.
Why on earth would you do theamount of people who argued with
me that sock shoe, sock shoe isthe normal that's not normal,
because you keep your socks on alot of times like so you just
this is.
This would be like when you gotout of the shower.
The actual question is when youget out of the shower and get
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dressed, how do you do it right?
And the argument was like well,when you put your sock on, you
don't want to put it down andget it dirty, so you go ahead
and put it in the shoe.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'm like how dirty is your house and your bare foot
is standing on the ground anywayyeah, how dirty could your sock
get in just like that onemoment, like are you?
Do you never clean your entry?
Like what's going?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
on.
Yes, so we're, we're both onteam sock, sock, shoe, shoe.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, okay, listeners should tell us what team
they're on.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I need to know if this is really a thing, because
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I would never have thought about that.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
The other question was if you could be an animal,
any animal in the world for oneweek.
You will be the animals intheir brain.
You'll be able to do everythingthey can do, but you'll also
have your you know mind andyou'll remember all this.
What animal would you want tobe for one week?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I feel like being a bird of some sort, because then
you get to fly, because thatwould be very different you want
to be the big like, a big onelike an eagle, yeah, like
something that's not um, or likean owl, something that's a
predator.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So you're not having to worry yeah, you don't look
over your shoulder for a wholeweek yeah I went with dolphin
because I think I don't knowjust the idea of the fast
swimming I'm not a fast swimmer,um and jumping, I feel like I
would be one of the dolphinsthat was always by the cruise
ships, like get my picture taken.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
He's showing off.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Right, like here he goes again.
Oh a double flip.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
He looks like the center of attention.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
But bird was number one, monkey was number two with
everybody Bird was number one.
Monkey was number two.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That's actually that, and dog came to mind.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, but dog was more because it's like you're
just always happy.
One of my patients said shesaid, oh, cat.
I said why cat?
She said because you get to napall day.
I'm like you want to do thatfor a week, just nap you could
take a vacation, yeah, for aweek.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I don't know cat I.
Well, there's a whole littlediscussion I want to have with
you at a different date aboutwhy, where this cat lady issue
is coming from and like where itstemmed from.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
But we're gonna save that okay, because I feel like
that's a bigger discussion.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, um, the other thing I had was just some.
Okay, so I traveled toMinnesota and I went first class
, because so when I go to she'sgot money.
I really don't Money, but often, like so often, it's not very
expensive to Minnesota to dofirst class and it's easier on
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me generally to be able to dothat.
I don't do that everywhere.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
But it's, you just have more space, and it's just
like pleasant.
The last time I did it, though,I ended up next to this really
drunk lady.
I mean, she got progressivelydrunker.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
She started drunk and got worse.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yes, and she was like .
Her eyes were like closing thatlevel of drunk and there were
multiple times where she justwas staring at me.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Hold on, she's sitting beside you.
Yeah, so she's turned.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah.
We were having a conversationand then I was trying to, and
then I put my headphones on andI look over and she's just like
staring at me and I took themoff and I was like what's up?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
What you doing, boo.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
She really wanted to stay in touch and then she tried
to set me up with the guyacross the aisle.
So that was a bad first date,did you?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
allow her to do that.
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Just check it out.
No, I really did not want to beinvolved.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know if it was love in the air or not.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, there was nothing .
No, it was not.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
My rule when I fly is don't engage.
I used to be.
You know me.
I talk to anybody, yeah, assoon as I sat down, just right
into conversation, but thenyou're locked in.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Like there's no guarantee that they won't
interrupt you at any point totalk, so I lock in Earphones if
I've got a hood hood up Laserfocused on something.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, no talking, that's what I've been doing
lately, because I mean, I've hadmultiple occasions where I'm
just like trapped and it wasjust because I was like, hi, how
are you doing?
Like?
This is not an opening to likeyour life story.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Right.
Start at the beginning and tellme everything that you've gone
through.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, but OK.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I had a couple of revelations On the flight.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
In the airport.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Have you ever thought about why airports call it
ground transportation?
You see the sign and you'rejust like I know that's the
taxis and stuff, but like itmakes sense because there's air
transportation going on at anairport.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
So they're just making sure we know that it's
not a plane.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I've never thought of that.
Do you think it should just betransportation?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, I guess, save the sign.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Don't have to make a big sign.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, it just came to me.
I was just staring at it, I waslike, why is it called ground
transportation?
And I'm like, oh, because it'snot an airplane, but it's like.
Well, I mean, I know it's notbecause I'm not in security
anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, I don't think people are getting confused once
they leave the airport?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Oh, but don't get on another plane, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
The other thing is I saw these people with, like you
know, the double stroller likeside by side.
There was only one kid.
Where's the other kid?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
all right, let's think through this like are they
planning ahead?
Maybe they've planned out afamily and they got it.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I got a cheap deal maybe on a double stroller I
don't know, or like they'reusing it for their bags or
something.
I mean, there wasn't anythingthere, but I was like there was
literally not another kid it'sactually a way that people steal
quite often is a doublestroller.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
There'll be a kid in the front and then a blanket
over the back, as if the otherchild's sleeping.
I don't know who's stealingfrom the airport, but I don't
know.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
But I mean they were like the ones where it's like a
toddler, you know, like whereit's bigger.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, it was very weird yeah, I need to dig into
that.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I was like did you lose the other right?
I mean, that's, the kid took anearlier flight I'll meet you
there so I don't know yeah, um.
And then the other thing isthat I think that anyone who is
on speakerphone or facetimeshould be banished from the
airport forever.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
It infuriates me.
So rude and I don't evenunderstand.
There's a woman at Publix thatI have seen now four times and I
don't know we must time ourschedules correctly.
She's always on the phone andit is laying in her cart and
she's off getting something andscreaming back and you can hear
the person going What'd you say?
I want to hang it up.
(36:55):
I think the speakerphonefeature should be deactivated in
public.
I think once you leave yourhome, it should be when would
you use speaker?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I just don't understand people who are just
walking along like this and I'mlike is there a medical reason
for this?
Like is it like put on yourheadphones.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I'm all about multitasking, but that's why
headphones were invented forsure yeah, I don't, I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I was like trying to get this like quiet area and
suddenly this lady like picks upher phone and like starts
yelling into FaceTime and I waslike Furious.
Oh my gosh, and my flight hadbeen delayed seven hours and I
was like, I am so cranky Likeyou can't be Furious.
Yeah, I might have given her aglare as I left.
My sister calls it my deathglare.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I love a good glare.
I love a good glare.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, I try not to do it anymore, but I definitely
like I was like walking by, juststaring.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But then if they don't see, you give them the
glare.
You have to wait for them tospot you.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
So you have to hold the glare.
I tried to make sure I got intothe FaceTime.
I was like hurt.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Here's popping your head up behind.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
At least the person who she was speaking to saw it
as I walked behind her.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I have a patient that comes in the clinic, that is,
she talks to her friend for sixto seven hours a day, what?
And it's on and it's just goinglike we have a full session and
every once in a while you'rehere talking and I'm, and I ask
her one day.
I'm like who are you talking to?
And she's like my friend, shedoesn't live in the us, we talk
all day oh my gosh I don't even.
I was like what do you talkabout?
She's like sometimes we'll justgo for 30, 45 minutes without
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talking like hang the phone up.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
It's called codependence.
Hang the phone up.
That's crazy.
Okay, um salsa update it'sperfect it's perfect two serrano
chilies.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Remove the seeds of one okay it brings it to a six
on the heat scale Shockinglygood.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I'll have to make it for you.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Please do.
My mom suggested that we try iton here.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Against other salsas and see if we could figure out
which one it was 100%.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, get three other green salsas.
Let me bring mine and let's see.
Yeah, I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Green salsa, other green salsas, let me bring mine
and let's see, yeah, I guaranteeyou green salsa.
Yeah, okay and okay.
So my cranial sacral lady, youknow she's got good advice.
Uh, she I mentioned.
I don't know why I mentionedthe salsa, but I did.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
He's just laying on the table philip's making salsa
like who's philip?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
um, I think she has this crazy, amazing and.
I think, it was something alongthose lines.
But she then proceeded to giveme a full recipe.
To tell you, I remember verylittle of it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, what do you remember?
Here's what I remember.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
She said use a cast iron skillet called a Kamal
C-O-M-A-L.
I Googled it Okay.
And you char the veggies aheadof time.
On it you only use onetomatillo.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That's what I remember interesting because
this has like eight to tentomatillos okay yeah, that's a
vast difference between what isit?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
tomatillo?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
yeah, a green tomato, but I don't.
I don't know if that's theexact definition, but if you
looked at it it's and you cut it, it looks like a green tomato
flavorful or eat, or so no, ifyou just did it, it's kind of a,
I don't know.
It's got a little cis, a littlemore citrusy okay feel to it,
but you definitely need to addstuff.
I don't know if people are justeating just plain tomatillos.
(40:26):
I've always had it eitherroasted in something or in a
salsa are you roasting yourveggies?
of course, okay.
Who doesn't roast their veggies?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I mean, I do love that, but I've never made salsa.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Okay, so you've got some of that.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Do you have a Kamal?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
No, but I'm going to order one as soon as I leave.
I don't even know what it is,but I need to look it up.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
It's a cast iron, okay.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I have a cast iron skillet, but that's the southern
version yeah, you shouldcompare it okay, they look like.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
So all right, what are you obsessing over lately?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
the um frozen potato and lentil samosas frozen, say
it again frozen.
I'm only mentioning thatbecause it's in the frozen
section of publics.
It is a potato and lentilsamosa, so it's like a fried
dough stuffed with potato andlentils.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
It's an Indian food right?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yes, indian food and it comes with this little packet
of kind of spicy cilantro sauce.
Nicole, I have six boxes in myfreezer now.
Air fryer seven minutes, it isheaven.
Sounds really good, and I'm nota frozen food guy.
I'm always trying to cook and Ijust happen to get it one day,
randomly obsessed.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I wish I could try that.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So good, what about you?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
My friend Prash had made samosas and I actually just
I tried one anyway and I onlygot a little bit stomachache
because of the gluten.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
But it was very good.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
So, honestly, I'm just obsessing over my scotland
trip.
We're gonna hike ben, soexcited for, yes, did you hike
it?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
yes, okay, I want to ask we did not do the full thing
um I.
I can't remember how long itwas, but yeah both of the hikes
we did it was extremely rainy,very windy and we and my father
was bilateral total kneereplacements so we didn't want
to be gone too long, so we woulddo.
Sometimes half of these hikesStore, I think, is the other one
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, this big rock structure.
That was pretty amazing.
We did Ben Nevis and one otherone.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
My mom really like she.
She said that's what she'slooking forward to most.
I mean we love hiking but wedid read about like the weather
can change real fast so likewe've agreed we turn around if
it's not looking good, um, butit so for the listeners.
It is the tallest mountain inthe uk and it's like 4 000 feet
feet, I think.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, I'll defer to you on that.
Yeah, 4,000.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, so I think like anyone can kind of do it if you
don't have an injury.
But it is still.
It's the weather you have to becareful of.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
And there's moments, there's parts where you're like,
oh God, this is treacherous.
Okay, but like it's not.
You're not hanging off the sideof a cliff.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You just need to be mindful when you step across
this crag or whatever like yeahone could fall, but one could
fall, one will not fall, onewill not, will not, no um?
What's your recommendationtoday?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
um, there's a podcast .
I completely binged um, I thinkthere may be seven or eight
episodes what happened to TalenaZar?
And it takes place at the, inthe middle of COVID, where a
woman post a Facebook post thatsays she's got COVID and she's
going to her cabin and she doesnot want to be disturbed and
(43:46):
she's not sure if she's going tomake it through this because
she's got some othercomorbidities and then they
never hear from.
No one hears from her again,and so the story starts there,
and this team of online sleuthsfrom all over the us who obsess
over crime podcast figure outwhat happened to her, and it is
shocking okay, it's so good,especially because like it's?
(44:08):
it involves, you know, a lady inkansas who you know works at a
bar, and there's a woman incolorado who does it, and they
all are talking online andthey're interviewing people and
they help the police find whathappened to her.
So, check that one out.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah, my recommendation is also a podcast
called Wild Thing.
It's about Bigfoot.
It's so interesting, but it'sseason one of Wild Thing and I
listened to this in 2020.
It's not a newer one, but thehost is a journalist and so she
finds out that one of herdistant uncles or cousins or
(44:48):
something like that, was like aforemost expert on Bigfoot, and
she goes down that how do youbecome foremost expert on
bigfoot?
and she goes down that commonexpert on bigfoot he's like an
anthropologist and she goes intoall this research and she goes
on these trips and I won't tellyou the ending, you know but
it's worth it.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's so good, okay, yeah, all right, I need another
one, so I'll start today one,yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
What are you looking forward to this week?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
This week it's a normal week for me, so I'm just
excited.
The last three weeks have beencrazy Every night having
something going on.
You know me overscheduledalways.
This week I have nothing goingon until Friday.
I'm going to Zany's and I justforgot the name of the comedian
but I'm going with some friends.
I'm super excited about that.
So I'm excited for a chill,routine week that will end with
(45:37):
laughter.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Sometimes that's what you really need.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
I am looking forward to my Bigfoot conference Is it
this week.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Weekend it's this week.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah, mariana and I leave on Thursday.
We have an Airbnb in theSmokies we're going to hike.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I cannot wait.
You're going to do some videostuff, right?
I need to see what these peopleare doing.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, respectfully.
Yeah, of course yes.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
But I just want to see, like is there a convention?
Are they selling goods?
What are they?
Speaker 1 (46:07):
selling, so I know there are vendors.
And I told Mariana she was likeare there speakers?
And I was like yeah, that'slike the whole thing.
And I feel like I said want togo to a Bigfoot conference?
And she just said yes, and nowshe's all more excited because
(46:30):
she never looked into it.
She's like this is great, umyeah, so there's speakers and
vendors and we'll find out whatelse um, is there like a dance
at the end?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
like a bigfoot dance?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
not that I'm aware of , but that would be.
That would be pretty this isgoing to be exciting yeah, and
then I think sunday we leave,but I I'm looking forward to
quiet sunday morning at theAirbnb.
I think we'll probably stayuntil checkout so that we can
just have.
I just love being in theSmokies.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
It's very relaxing.
That's going to be great.
Yeah, I'm excited for you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Well, thanks for being here, Philip.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
You're welcome, Nicole.
Thank you yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Thanks for joining me on my crunchy zen era.
Please leave a rating, a reviewand comments so we can talk
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