June 5, 2025 • 40 mins
Darren and Noah explore the evolving balance between training and entertainment at Golf Garage, while celebrating college golfer Kira Chang's remarkable achievements and growth as a team leader.
• Golf Garage's expansion from training facility to entertainment destination with sushi restaurant and Smashburger concept
• Importance of collaborative partnerships in creating unique member benefits and business growth
• Tournament season challenges with extreme heat and the value of choosing fun playing partners
• Kira Chang's journey from introvert to team leader and her impressive conference championship performance
• The power of confidence and visualization in putting improvement using Tour Putt technology
• Upcoming events including putter fittings, golf ball comparisons, and a break 80 challenge between Darren and Noah
We'd love to have you join us for our member event on Wednesday from 5:30-6:30 at Golf Garage where we'll be hosting a cocktail party with complimentary ball fittings from our professionals.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the my golf source podcast.
Welcome to my golf source.
I am Darren and I'm Noah.
How's your week been?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's been busy, buddy .
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I stayed here till midnight last night working.
I was here at like four o'clockand he said yeah, no.
I called you at 3.30 and saidI'm on my way down there, you're
like, I won't be here, I'mgoing home.
And you were here when I gothere at four o'clock.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I know it's the life of an entrepreneur, apparently,
which is something exciting thatyou're doing.
You got another podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We are.
That's awesome we are.
It's called the unfilteredfounders.
It's a little um little lesspolite podcast, but if you
haven't heard about it, check itout.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's awesome Congrats.
Yeah, you're doing that.
Co-host is another local guy.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Andy Baker yeah yeah, good friend of mine too.
Super cool guy, member here atthe golf garage as well.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes, he is, and his kiddos have done youth golf, I
guess with Toby probably prettymuch, since Toby's played a few
years at least a few years soyeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Um tournament season is in full swing.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You're playing this weekend and it's supposed to be
104 degrees.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, not in the golf garage, it's not 70 degrees, it
will be.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, we're playing at seven, 30 in the morning,
thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh my gosh, you got a good tea time.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We got the good tea time and and I I just start
thinking about when I play golf.
I want to play golf with thefun people I want to play in
good events.
I used to always just dowhatever anyone wanted, right?
Hey, I need you to play with mein this and that.
And as a golf pro, you justkind of feel like you've got to
play with your students and allof it, especially when you're at
(02:00):
a private club.
And and now, um, you knowtime's so valuable you start
thinking about how much fun youreally want to have on the golf
course.
Or is it going to be a lessonthe whole time?
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
two weeks ago we played in the um local uh
military support tournament and,uh, my buddy, steve first, was
on the team, who's been on thepodcast.
He's the CEO of David's Chairand we had Kukula with us.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh yeah, How'd that go?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
He won the long drive .
Nice, it was a scramble.
We shot a 59.
That's good.
At Stone Ridge, and then lastweek we played in the David's
Chair tournament.
Evan was on the team.
Yes, he's a solid golfer too.
Man, he's yeah, he's just anathlete Taking leaps and bounds
(02:53):
in his skills month over month.
We shot a 56, but we bought acouple of her scores.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
As long as you don't tell Ryan you bought your score
and you just, you know, let Evanrub that salt in the wound a
little bit that he got him bytwo.
That's all that matters,because when we played out at
Stone Ridge and the SouthernOregon sports commission, we
shot 48.
Wow, yeah, that's a big score,it's.
It was uh incredible.
But same thing, you know,mulligan, a person you know, I
(03:26):
think it was like throw the ballOne mulligan on the front, nine
, one mulligan on the back, nine.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
At the David's, your tournament on hole one, par five
, if you paid a hundred 140bucks.
So I donated 140 bucks and wewere hitting our first shot from
seven feet out from the pin oh,do you make it?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
yes nice, yeah, so there was a group that did the
throw on the first hole and Iheard they got a hole in one on
the first hole because somebodywas hitting the drive.
So it counted as zero if youpaid him something right and
then they threw their ball upthere close to the green, which
didn't count as a stroke, andthen they chipped it in for a
one.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Goodness, yeah, that's how we did.
Par five, whole one.
We we had a one.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So that goes into a lot of entertainment value.
And it's something I'm reallycurious about, because I built
golf garage specifically as atraining facility.
It was 15 years of just man, Iwant to teach golf.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm sure it's fun for a training facility, I know.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
How did that happen?
And I know, and it wasn't evenpart of the plan.
And so now you look at it andall the families and all the
kids and all the coaches and itjust seems like there's such a
balance of training andentertainment and I'm trying to
figure that out in the comingyears of like where's that
balance going to shift and howdo I get ahead of that balance
(04:48):
in the golf industry, becausethis is such a new being for
golf?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
you know, getting getting ahead of the balance is
a good thing, but also justletting it take its own shape oh
, without question is importanttoo.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And I mean, look, don't you think that it is right
?
I mean, we're putting the sushisushi like pop up in that now
is turning into a full timerestaurant.
You know, chef Ethan's done twopop ups here now.
Well, three days of pop ups andwe're building out a bar.
He's going to be here fulltimetime.
(05:23):
He's going to be doing this ashis full-time job, which is
amazing.
And then we're proving aconcept right now with a
Smashburger, because our areahas McDonald's and Burger King
and Fast Food joints all overthe place, right, and all the
mom and pops have.
Just, you know, they didn'thave anybody take over for them.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I mean they have come on, give In they didn't have
anybody take over for them.
I mean they have come on, giveit in and out, and five guys
some credit.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But there's still it's still a chain.
It's still a chain right.
So, the consistency of the foodis there, but it's not
something that is handmade bysomebody that cares enough.
That's getting that qualitymeat that's going out and
finding the right potato behindthat tastes with it Right.
So ultimately, you know we'regoing to be the place in town
for the burger, we're going tobe the place in town for the top
(06:08):
quality sushi, the freshestingredients, and it goes hand in
hand with what Golf Garage isanyway.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We're the pitcher of beer and 18 holes of golf in air
conditioning In Australia, yes,or Scotland, wherever you want
to be, yeah in the next day,let's just go place to place.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, the other thing, too, that's really unique
about this type of a facilityis I used to be a tournament
director at Centennial Golf Clubup the road, so the year it
opened.
Another pro is over at StoneRidge, vince Domanzine started
Centennial with OB Sports and Iwas brought in as an assistant
golf professional.
Didn't know a thing.
(06:45):
I worked in the golf industrysince I was 12, but working
behind the counter is a littledifferent and you know, what's
unique about it is you're tryingto collaborate with everybody,
and at a golf course you canonly collaborate so much in
season because you're bound bywhat the weather's going to
allow you to do.
Um and so here it's reallyunique.
(07:06):
I just had three hotel generalmanagers come in and talk to me,
cause I saw them at thatSouthern Oregon sports
commission tournament and I madea bet with them that if I
knocked it on the green on thepar four and one down the Hill
on number four, that I'd get afree hotel nights stay.
And I did nearly do it.
It actually kicked over, hitthe rake and kicked off the
(07:27):
green.
If the rake wasn't there Iwould have.
So they all come in unannouncedand they're they're trying to
talk about a collaboration One'sin Eugene, one's in band and
one's here talking aboutexpanding golf garage and then
also talking about how we canhelp each other.
And I was just like man, thisis so cool.
And I started, you know, kindof going through the things that
I could help them with and howwe could do golf trips, and I
(07:48):
said would you discount yourroom rates if I put you on our
website for our members?
So now when our members go toyour town, they're going to call
you before any other hotel.
That's a win.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's that saying it's not what you know.
Yeah, it's who you know.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Indeed, yeah, and that was just a lucky one, right
, but it's that constant I wantto partner with everybody.
Mentality that's going to grindthis out and make this a really
unique spot for the members,and that's what I'm trying to do
is even the members get adollar off the burger.
They get a dollar or two offsushi, the food truck.
I told them they need to do adiscount for members.
(08:25):
Like when do we get a dollaroff for next?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
pint of beer tonight.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Okay, simley, you got it, man, it's, I got you, so
it's it's pretty good.
Um, you know, kind of switchingit up a little bit.
We had a really really goodseason at SOU, so you had your
awards banquet last night?
We did, and you know we hadsome team photos the night
before last.
Yeah, so we had our.
(08:49):
Yeah, so we did a team eventonly at golf garage and had this
awesome charcuterie board.
That was good Gourmet hostessshout out for her.
She just rocked it and nowbecause of that, um, I don't
want to give the cat out of thebag, but there's going to be a
little gift, another gift forour members on the one year that
(09:13):
gourmet hostess is going tobring to the table, and it's not
edible.
So I'm really excited about thegift that keeps on giving
gourmet hostess.
It's not edible I know it's, Iknow I know.
So you'll just have to be hereon 7-11 and get that gift, since
you're a member um cocktailparty that night.
So it was really fun and wethank you for those photos.
(09:34):
You may.
You just take awesome photos.
Obviously you know the one of uh, thanks yeah and and just you
know, taking the photos, thegolf garage too.
So so shout out for you, buddy,um, but we had our uh end of
the year party for all ofathletics.
So this was nationalchampionship, for softball was
rowdy, you know, it's like whocheered the most at a game like
(09:57):
that, you know, honestly.
And then you have your allvoted upon by your peers and the
staff of you know athletes ofthe year for each sport.
But what was unique was theyhad a raffle going on in between
, and Western beverage, which islike Budweiser, and you know
the beer company donated all ofthis stuff.
So it was pretty funny to see,you know, all the kids that are
(10:20):
under 21, if they win a raffleprize, and three of the golfers
won raffle prizes and it has abeer logo oh man yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Whiskey logos yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think, uh, the coolest raffle prize was won by
Oliver Oslin.
He got a uh, tito's cooler no,he got a Bush cowboy hat or
something like that.
It was kind of funny, um.
But no, I mean in allseriousness, super excited.
I mean we had three allconference this year.
Um, you know, and I think thatmoving forward, we had two more
(10:52):
that were literally within onestroke to three strokes, so like
0.00, whatever, and scoringaverage.
So in that tournament, only ifthey would have dropped one to
three strokes, we would have hadtwo more all conference.
So we're really moving up theranks in the CCC and it's all
(11:12):
done by leadership.
It's.
It's helpful when you have agolfer or golfers that are
shooting the scores.
It makes recruiting so mucheasier and we have one of those
leaders with us here tonight.
Kira Chang, welcome back to themy Golf Source podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
We're so excited to have you, kira, again, yeah,
again, and I'm really excited tohear what you have to say about
how you finish the season.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
She's a lot less nervous this time and just seems
more relaxed.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I am relaxed, school's almost over yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I'm going to get smart.
You told me how many morefinals do you have?
Two, two in person.
And then it's done.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Then we're done.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Back to SoCal.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yep, all right, it's exciting.
What is the first thing you'regoing to do when you go to SoCal
?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Play golf.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's not just because I'm on this right now.
I mean she was prepared forthat question apparently All
right.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Well then, I'm going to ask this question because, uh
, in a year's time you've gonefrom I'd say, mediocre introvert
to you're kind of finding yourown way right now.
You're not afraid to speak theway you need to, You're not
afraid to ask for things, You'rebecoming a leader, a very good
leader, not only by example, butyou know in everything you do.
So what's the change?
(12:37):
How did it happen?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I would say from new, the new girls coming on.
That was a big change,especially them being younger
and closer to age, and me andour other teammates.
I feel like we could bond alittle better and I began to
(13:01):
find myself, began to findmyself and, yeah, overall, just
new experiences has definitelyshaped me too being around
better people, more people, andyeah, just yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So what are you going to miss?
Most about college golf.
The people yeah, Just yeah.
So what are you going to missmost about college golf?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
The people yeah, yeah , I would say that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So you had a heck of a run going down the stretch in
conference, darren, and I'vetalked about this on the podcast
a little bit, how we were kindof waiting to see if you were
going to nationals, and that'san exciting thing and that's
congratulations.
Um, I don't say it to youenough, probably because I'm
always trying to just keep yougoing, but it's a big feat and
(13:54):
if you're ever in that situation, um, there's butterflies and
there's nerves and there's allsorts of things and it's out of
your control, right, just likegolf in a way.
you know it's out of yourcontrol on right, just like golf
in a way you know it's out ofyour control on if the ball
deflects and goes in the waterand what you do with it.
So I've seen this so many timeswhere people do not persevere
after certain instances happenand oddly enough, I felt like
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your spring was a good season,but I don't think you absolutely
crushed it and then you startout shooting the first round 10
over par, Like you were in themiddle of the pack of all the
ladies and I want you to tell usabout rounds two and three and
how you came back and whathappened there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, after the first round it was a little
disappointing, but I knew thatit wasn't over yet.
I still had two more days ofgolf which a lot can happen in
between and I knew that all Ihad to do was just finish strong
and that's just about what Icould do.
And yeah, I knew going into thesecond day that it wasn't over
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and I still had a lot moreopportunities out there and I
just kept grinding and Itypically know that I play
better the second or third day,depending how long the
tournament is.
So after the first day I knewthe course already and I knew
what mistakes I made in thefirst day and I wasn't going to
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repeat them the second and thirdday.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You got it out of your system.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Exactly and I knew what shots I had to hit and
which spots to avoid, and thatdefinitely helped with my scores
and I just overall I felt supercomfortable.
My ball striking was super good, I was the most confident I've
probably ever been, super good,I was the most confident I've
probably ever been throughoutthe whole season and I just,
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yeah, I have carried that energyand feeling with me ever since
and now I know what it's like toplay in that environment.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, and so it's funny when you say that you
stayed out of trouble spots,because I remember rolling up on
you and you were in the mostodd situation I've seen you.
I think you had a good drive,so I wasn't even thinking about
driving up on you too quicklyand I thought your ball was up
on the green.
So I'm just nonchalantlywalking up and then all of a
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sudden I see you disappear overthe back of the green.
And this is like the one green.
You don't go long on the pins,three feet from the edge, back
edge, and it's about a 30 footdrop off down into pine straw
and trees.
And here's Kira under this treein pine straw and you know she'd
come off some good up and downsand a few things happen.
(16:43):
She's kind of like in that,that phase of like.
Maybe I'm not hitting it realclose on these holes, but I'm
getting up and downs and a fewthings happen.
She's kind of like in that,that phase of like.
Maybe I'm not hitting it realclose on these holes, but I'm
getting up and down.
So I'm still grinding and I'mfeeling good about my game, but
this is one of those, a doubleor triple bogeys looking at you
in the face.
If you don't pull the shot off,I know what that feels like I'm
there all the time.
I took video of this shot thatwe will post.
It was one of the mostremarkable shots I've ever been
(17:06):
a part of and to the fact that Igot to help coach you through
it.
I still get goosebumps and Ithink about that shot when I
want to pull something good off.
So, going through that shot,you know what I'm talking about,
right, I do.
Will you walk us through thatshot and how we kind of went
through that scenario?
Cause I think you were thinkingdifferently than what we when I
paced it off and kind of talkedto you through it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, I mean I got there because I was put in that
situation because of myself.
I had a lapse of judgment withmy distance and I wasn't
thinking too clearly and I kindof just pulled a club that I
shouldn't have and I hit it atthe back of the green.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'm going for the back of the green.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, exactly, and I peered my shot so that I mean it
didn't really help with that.
So I end up like 15 yards, likepast the green, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, this is awful, Ihave no green to work with, it's
straight uphill.
I can't even see the hole orthe green in general, barely the
(18:15):
flag.
Yeah, exactly, and you cameover to me and you just you were
very calm, which calmed me downtoo, and you walked me through
the shot and you had such aclear vision of what you wanted
me to pull off and I wasconfident that I could pull it
off as well, because we hadpulled off a pretty tricky shot
before, even before that one,and so I felt, I felt pretty
comfortable doing whatever youwanted me to do and I did it and
(18:39):
I pulled it off, and then Istill had about eight feet left
for par, but I was putting sogood that day that I it wasn't
even, it didn't even occur to methat.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I can miss it.
You're 15 feet down.
You're 50 feet off of the green.
You're in big trouble.
The pin, you have no green towork with and you put it within
eight feet.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, awesome, she had this punch shot into the
side of the hill that popsstraight up and almost flies
into the hole with some check onit and goes to eight feet.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
See, that's where it takes a pro to say hit the bad
stuff in front and let it bounceup there where people like me
are like I want to put it upthere and drop it just barely
onto the green and it's such aprecise shot that it's not
realistic.
And there was a tree branch inher way.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, if Noah hadn't been there I probably would have
done something a lot different.
That would have cost me atleast a double bogey.
But I miraculously walked awaywith a par and even my parents
came up to me after the roundand they were like we for sure
thought you were at least goingto get a bogey.
I'm like yeah, so did I.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But Noah said not today yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Well, you pulled it off.
That's awesome.
And it's interesting becauseyou put a lot in that story and
it's sometimes lucky that acoach can stumble upon a player
when they're in a situation,because when you're out there
and there's five to six of yourgolfers, depending on the event,
and they could be two milesapart from each other and you
don't know why they made doublebogey, but the scorecard popped
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up and then you get up there andall of a sudden they're back on
track.
But if you go up and say, hey,is everything okay?
Well, then all of a suddentheir thought process changes.
So every player's mindset is sodifferent that it's unique.
When you have 20 golfers betweentwo teams, you have to get to
know those mindsets reallyquickly.
To know who to run up on who tosee if they're on tilt.
You know give quickly.
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To know who to run up on who tosee if they're on tilt.
You know give them an extrahole, don't just rush over
because you saw something goodor bad and sometimes it's the
good that you're actually payingattention to and you're like,
okay, well, they're playing alittle out of their comfort zone
.
How do I go get themcomfortable going lower Right
and keep that motivation up.
And so for Kira it was justliterally um know, made a couple
mistakes coming down thestretch and I would say like,
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oddly enough, that was a greatup and down.
And then there was a coupleblemishes on the scorecard on
some scorable holes and then shegets up on the second to last
hole, which is a par five, andhits his awesome drive down the
right center.
But that wasn't even the shot.
She knocks three wood or fivewood onto the green to like 20
feet and proceeds to lip thatout for Eagle.
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So she was never done.
You know like you make twobogeys and all of a sudden you
do that, you know, and then youend up shooting under par again,
you know.
So now you've got two roundsthis last season that were under
par.
So you know you can do iteverywhere and you've
accomplished your goal.
I think that's really theunique part about it.
You could have been upset aboutthat round and gone back
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through and said, well, I couldhave shot 66, but that's not the
point.
You ended up finishing top fourin conference and you beat the
number one and the number eightplayer in the country.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Congratulations that week, thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So no, it just shows that you can play with anybody
and beat anybody, and that'sjust where she is right now.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Awesome, you got a big future ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
So when you land your first job in the golf industry
in Southern California, you'regoing to have to come back on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, from there, there, we can do it by phone and
yeah, I'd love to problem thatshe's going to be traveling
playing a lot, so maybe you'rejust practicing California but
you're traveling to Texas toplay.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I mean she can still connect with us by phone.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Love that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Hey, you know what's funny too, Darren, what she was
on my team when we shot 48.
What, yeah Go partner Herputter was in Fuego that day too
.
I don't think I only puttedtwice, but how about the?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
where was it?
Where was that?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
At Stone Ridge.
Wow, yeah, did.
Did I tell you, I think Italked about the bet?
You were there for the bet,yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Oh, tj Holmes was getting lippy with me.
You know, tj, he's in the groupahead of us and we're on the
16th green and I'm last to puttand he watches everyone miss it.
And I'm up over the ball andhe's like 10 bucks, you miss.
I'm just like make it 30.
(23:02):
I immediately respond he's justlike no, no, no, he starts
driving.
I'm like all right, we'll makeit 30.
Cause he's like 10 bucks, nope.
So then I get over it again.
He's like 20.
I said 30.
And he says he starts driving.
I'm about to putt and he's likeokay, 30.
I was like okay, and I steppedback because I I thought I was
(23:23):
going to make it anyway.
I was just kind of waiting forhim to like get it.
And it wasn't an easy putt byany means.
It was 15 feet.
I had about 18 inches of breakfrom right to left, but I had
seen three before me and I wasreading it for them and they
just didn't quite hit the spotthat I was giving them.
Anyway, I get up there threefeet from the hole, I walk it in
(23:51):
and it snapped about that 18inches, the last three feet, so
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean, we talked about that at the end too just
about the confidence and theself-belief in the game, because
you always talk about the gamebeing hard.
That's the thing aboutscrambles, though, is you have
so much data that you otherwisewouldn't have watching your
teammates do putts.
You, you know there's, there'sreally.
No, I don't see.
I don't think we missed anyputts inside of 15 feet.
Yeah, between the four of us.
It's impressive because we cansee, see the line.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah there's a sense of I take that back.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
There was one eagle putt that we had.
It was about 12 feet.
We had it was about 12 feet andtwo of us lipped it just barely
, barely missed it and we usedthe mulligan on that.
And the first person who usedthe mulligan made it so nice.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, it's, it's interesting too.
I don't feel like there's thesame kind of pressure as if
you're by yourself.
You know, I think that mentally, especially amateurs put that
on themselves, that you knowI've got to get it back on the
next hole when you have 17 moreto go and you're like, well,
that guy's not going to playvery good and there's something
to be said for the mindset of,you know, having a really,
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really bad first couple of holesto be going.
Hey, I got that out of my way,I'm done now, so Kira how did
you learn to play the game, whodid you, how did you start the
game and why?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I used to play, like you're talking about golf, right
when you started golf.
Yeah, I used to play softballbefore I played golf, but my
brother was the first one toplay in our family and one day
my parents just asked me if Iwanted to try it out and go play
with my brother.
And I don't know why, but Ijust loved it.
For some reason I was just likedrawn to it and I was like this
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is a lot of fun and I was anaturally far hitter.
So I was like if I canautomatically hit it far and
just dial up my short game, thenI could be decent.
And I mean, obviously I'm stillgrinding and working and lots
(25:53):
of more steps to go, but youknow it's all been such a fun
process that's led me here.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So and being a far hitter.
That that brings up the point.
You know, golf pros always talkabout putting and chipping.
Putting and chipping that'syour most important thing, which
has a lot of truth.
But playing in a scrambleplaying, playing with somebody
who can hit the ball 330 yardsI'll tell you what.
It makes the game a whole loteasier to start hitting greens
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in regulation when somebody canhit hit a big drive it really
does.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, and one of the biggest disadvantages in women's
golf is their distance, so Ifeel like I was pretty blessed
with being able to hit it far.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So the pga tour plays at what?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
74, 7500 yards depends on the course, anything
over 7 000 up000 up to 76.
Sometimes.
Lpga uh, they're in that, 63 upto seven, depending on where
that's still.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
that's a lot, that's a lot of yardage.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, but it is still doing.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You know, 560 yard par fives, 600 yard par fives.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, the ladies, once in a a while we'll get
something up there in that 540,550 in like an open um.
You know, when you break downyardages just depends on course
setup right, they can make itone hole really long and then a
couple of them really short toeven it out.
Yeah, I mean kira's definitelyright on.
I mean she's a great putter butshe drives it so good.
You know finding a lot offairways when you're hitting it
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270 to 300 is awesome right.
That is a good position to showyou can go play with the on on
the tour.
Honestly, because if you'rehitting it that far and you're
hitting in the fairway, on tourfairways it's going more than
300 than two.
So that's really exciting stuff.
And I know that in a recruitingstandpoint or in a coaching
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standpoint, it's a lot easier tocoach somebody that can already
hit it far, because everyoneelse is always searching for
that distance.
Therefore, they're swingingharder than their ability.
Therefore, you're always tryingto get them to hone back in
until they can create the propertechnique to get that or go out
and work out harder.
And now, when you're workingout harder, you got to have the
right trainer or you're going toinjure yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Right Indeed and and playing and playing with a big
hitter I I found there was a lotof clubs in my bag that I would
normally use, that I don't use.
Yeah, you know, my long ironswere kind of out, because if you
hit a big drive you're only anine iron in on a par four.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Welcome to my world, right?
So good, hey, so we've got somefun stuff coming up too.
It'll be fun to get maybe Kirainvolved sometime too.
Maybe she'll come out and coachyou a little bit.
That'll be fun.
But I'm thinking, kira, I don'tknow if you know this, but we
are going to start videotapingDarren's game.
I'm going to teach himBasically.
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We're going to try to break 80.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I shot an 83 in Simlick last week.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, so we're going to go full putt out on golf
course and we started with alittle bit of chipping and there
was a realization of what theclub was supposed to do by
Darren, and he's a little moreexcited now to probably get out
there and do it.
So our goal is we're looking atprobably eight to 10 weeks of
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this and we're going to reportback on all this as we go.
We're going to videotape someof it, um, but that's the
challenge and I mean I thinkagain, if I get you to do this,
I want to steak dinner deal.
Yeah, you got to make it,though.
You bet, that's the only way, no, kiss the cook like clothing or
anything like that.
No, no, awesome, yeah, no, it's, it's going to be really good
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and um.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'll do brisket.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I need that.
What are we pairing it with?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh, good question.
What's for dessert?
I don't't know, that'ssomething I asked my wife hey.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
So the other thing that's kind of exciting up and
coming for both of us too, isthat you're going to be
producing some videos, um, forthe local tv station.
Also, I'm going to teach one ofthe anchors and it's a new
golfer and how to improve.
So it's going to be reallyunique to get.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
First set break 100, then break 90.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Can you go from 105 to 85 in 90 days?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well, maybe it's even nine holes, maybe it's break 60
, and then it's break 50, right?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Speaking of that, we just started the OP 36 program
again.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
OP 36 is awesome, so much fun, I shot a 27.
Yeah, but you missed awards.
We had a certificate for you.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know, we were the first tee time and we were done
early and we waited for aboutfive minutes and then we said
peace out.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yes, yes, you did.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Speaking of that, and we said peace out.
Yes, yes, you did.
Speaking of that, my I, I'm,I'm extremely encouraged with my
putting.
Lately my putting's been onpoint um.
I've avoided all three putts,even if I've on centennial
screens where I can have a 70foot putt.
You know, absolutely, I've been, I've been, I've been putting
(31:04):
well, I've been making a lot ofputts that have been in the 8 to
15 foot range.
So if I can keep everything ata 1 or a 2 putt, I'm excited to
see where the score can go.
We get the long irons anddriver and everything else in
place.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I have a question for you, kira.
I've never asked you this.
What do you think about tourputt and what do you think the
advantages are of that here,since you get to use it whenever
you want?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I can tell you that about um two weeks before
conference championships up inportland, um, every time I
practiced putting I was usingthe tour putt.
And I say I can contribute myputting to the tour putt because
it allowed me to visualize myputts so much better and see it
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going in the hole.
And especially with those shortputts, it's super easy to
misread them and, um just yeah,just miss them.
But I felt really reallyconfident with my like three to
six footers and those are theputts that you, you need to make
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.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So well, I got to tell you I was doing a putter
fitting yesterday for somebodyand the putter fitting software
is so cool because it's allabout start line and it's about
distance control.
So start line would be your aimand how you deliver the club um
for it to go where you want itto go.
And distance controls arearguably the most important
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thing that we look at in putting.
And I'm I'm watching this womanthat I teach and she told me
how bad she putted and she shot84 with like seven, three putts
and she's like 15 handicaps.
I'm like, wow, you're gettingbetter.
This is great.
So we go over to the tour putt.
I put her on it.
Nothing has to go on your putter, which is so cool, so there's
no weight changes when you'redoing the fitting process and
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she starts out and I'm justwatching her leave everything
short, especially when you gouphill, so it forces you to go
3% uphill trying to get goodspeed, and she's just like short
, short, short, one long, butway long, short, short, short,
way long.
And I'm just like, okay, soshe's fixing something at a
fault to make it go long andeverything.
(33:18):
She's adding loft and I'm justlike, hey, you know, I know
we're not done with the processyet and I'm watching all this,
but because of the way that thetest is done you can kind of get
an idea already that thatputter is not going to fit.
I said, hey, your putter is notgoing to fit you without giving
her too much.
And I said your putter is toolight for you.
Number one you know just fromwatching what was happening and
then seeing it and knowing howshe kind of hits it.
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And then we went through thetest and we gave her a putter
that was so much heavier andimmediately the ball started
getting there right.
But then we changed lie angleand a few other things too, and
then it gave you preferences onthe sight line.
It gives you the style, theweight to a gram it gives you
the you know the neck designlike it's.
(34:01):
It's so cool.
Um, it also gives youpreferences, so it gives you
three different putters usuallythat it recommends based on the
putting style of the player, andthen, um, it's up to the pro to
decide.
Well, I got a text that nightand she was extremely excited
because of how well she wasputting.
She went right out with it.
(34:22):
Luckily, I had a putter that Icould sell her.
Um, cause sell her?
Because it was awesome to see,awesome.
So those are the things thatare cool and why technology can
help you and, kira, I'm glad ithelped you as well and really
excited for you to get home tosee your family and get some
rest, and I know that you'regoing to not rest that much.
But at the same time, when weget back here, you're going to
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be the leader and and everyone'schasing you.
You just keep moving forwardand extending those leads.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Thanks for joining us .
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Thank you for having me.
Thanks, kira.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
All right, one more thing that we promised that we
would do and we haven't done ityet.
We were going to compare, in ablind comparison review, the
data of the Costco Kirklandballs and a TP5.
Oh, because we had a wholepodcast episode on golf balls.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, and I'm actually going to be doing on
Wednesday that might be the dayto do it.
So on Wednesday I'm doing amember event where I'm doing
golf ball.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Fitting that's awesome and I just went out and
bought two brand new boxes ofCostco Kirkland balls Perfect
and the reason I bought thoseballs cause I don't play those
balls anymore.
But there's a reason.
It's because you have set upall these reciprocating
memberships right.
We're going down to Shasta Laketomorrow to play and I know
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that course is narrow and it'swoody and it's hard and I don't
want to lose $4 golf balls.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I have to tell you I was playing in an event and I
can't name names.
But we get up to the seventhhole at rug Valley country club
and it's a short downhill holewith a pond and I'm in the cart
with my playing partner andwe're all talking and he pulls
out this ball and any.
We're for some reason out ofleft field.
(36:19):
He's like here's my water ball.
I'm like I like second, likewhat do you?
What?
What's your water ball?
Oh, it's my water ball, causewe're on the water hole.
This is what I'm not scared tolose this is the one because I
always go in the water.
I'm going to get my water balland had dirt on it.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm like he just doesn't.
He gave up, he doesn't care,yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Well, this was the cool part he was having the
round of his life.
Gets up there, hits a greathybrid down to 100 yards out in
the middle of the fairway withthis water ball and he almost
hits it in the water.
But he gets over right barelyto a really tough spot.
Gets up and down for par.
This is like a 24 handicapperEnded up shooting, I think, 90
(37:01):
or something that day, 90 maybe.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Even I played the country club two weeks ago and I
had a tiger woods moment onthat hole where I had a really
bad drive.
It was short right and I had, Iwas in the rough and I had
major tree trouble.
Um, and I was a hundred and Ithink I was 158 out and I'm in
(37:23):
pretty deep rough.
I'm like I'm to take an eightiron and I'm just going to hit
it as hard as sloppy as Iprobably can.
I'm going to hit it as sloppyand as hard as I can and
hopefully my old super hardslice will come back.
And sure enough, I just slicedit right around that tree,
(37:44):
landed within five feet of thehole and had a one foot birdie
putt oh, man, shot of thetourney.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, I think we need to do that comparison which
moment I get one or two of thosea year.
Was that a Kirkland ball?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
no, it was a tp5x oh nice, the ball I would pick, hey
.
So Wednesday the 11th, we'regoing to do that 5.30 to 6.30
here at the garage for members,a little cocktail party.
I'm going to talk about it,we're going to go through some
of it, I'm going to do a fewblind tests and then every
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member will get a complimentaryball fitting from one of the
professionals here.
So I think it'd be really funto go through and actually test
that Kirkland ball that nightagainst a premium ball and see
what it's going to do.
Then we can report back on whatwe noticed.
As far as for sure, I think I'dlook at driver a little bit and
I might look at some wedge spinnumbers, maybe a mid iron, but
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for the most part I want to seewhat the spin rate's doing.
I want to see if there's anydistance changes.
Um, what I noticed with dimplesa lot of times is you're going
to see the aerodynamics changewhere it goes higher or lower.
So I'm really curious to testbecause I haven't had a chance
to do that in a few years andwe'll take some up close
pictures of them versus apremium ball.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Well, they say they're, they are a premium ball
.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Apparently they're like a trophy, and see if
there's any difference in thedimple pattern.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm excited about that.
It's going to be great.
All right, man, until next time, right, until next week, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
We took a week off because we needed it.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
We needed it.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
We were both busy in tournaments.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Supporting the community though Supporting the
community.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
They were charity tournaments.
Tell me about the tournamenttomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So tomorrow's the BMW Southern Oregon Classic.
It's one of the largest partytournaments and when I say that
it's a big deal in thetournament realm, but then
there's a huge party with allthe local fair, all these
companies coming in, live music,live music, big band stage I
think there's a few thousandpeople that come to it.
Really expensive tickets ifyou're not playing in the
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tournament.
Yeah, exactly, and we aredefending our honor tomorrow.
Team Rutledge was last year andI believe this is Tyler Lake's
team tomorrow.
So we're going to go out andsee what we can do.
All right, can't wait to hearabout it.
All right, thanks buddy Takecare.
Welcome to the my golf source podcast.
Welcome to my golf source.
I am Darren and I'm Noah.
How's your week been?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's been busy, buddy .
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I stayed here till midnight last night working.
I was here at like four o'clockand he said yeah, no.
I called you at 3.30 and saidI'm on my way down there, you're
like, I won't be here, I'mgoing home.
And you were here when I gothere at four o'clock.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I know it's the life of an entrepreneur, apparently,
which is something exciting thatyou're doing.
You got another podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We are.
That's awesome we are.
It's called the unfilteredfounders.
It's a little um little lesspolite podcast, but if you
haven't heard about it, check itout.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's awesome Congrats.
Yeah, you're doing that.
Co-host is another local guy.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Andy Baker yeah yeah, good friend of mine too.
Super cool guy, member here atthe golf garage as well.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes, he is, and his kiddos have done youth golf, I
guess with Toby probably prettymuch, since Toby's played a few
years at least a few years soyeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Um tournament season is in full swing.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You're playing this weekend and it's supposed to be
104 degrees.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, not in the golf garage, it's not 70 degrees, it
will be.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, we're playing at seven, 30 in the morning,
thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh my gosh, you got a good tea time.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We got the good tea time and and I I just start
thinking about when I play golf.
I want to play golf with thefun people I want to play in
good events.
I used to always just dowhatever anyone wanted, right?
Hey, I need you to play with mein this and that.
And as a golf pro, you justkind of feel like you've got to
play with your students and allof it, especially when you're at
(02:00):
a private club.
And and now, um, you knowtime's so valuable you start
thinking about how much fun youreally want to have on the golf
course.
Or is it going to be a lessonthe whole time?
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
two weeks ago we played in the um local uh
military support tournament and,uh, my buddy, steve first, was
on the team, who's been on thepodcast.
He's the CEO of David's Chairand we had Kukula with us.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh yeah, How'd that go?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
He won the long drive .
Nice, it was a scramble.
We shot a 59.
That's good.
At Stone Ridge, and then lastweek we played in the David's
Chair tournament.
Evan was on the team.
Yes, he's a solid golfer too.
Man, he's yeah, he's just anathlete Taking leaps and bounds
(02:53):
in his skills month over month.
We shot a 56, but we bought acouple of her scores.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
As long as you don't tell Ryan you bought your score
and you just, you know, let Evanrub that salt in the wound a
little bit that he got him bytwo.
That's all that matters,because when we played out at
Stone Ridge and the SouthernOregon sports commission, we
shot 48.
Wow, yeah, that's a big score,it's.
It was uh incredible.
But same thing, you know,mulligan, a person you know, I
(03:26):
think it was like throw the ballOne mulligan on the front, nine
, one mulligan on the back, nine.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
At the David's, your tournament on hole one, par five
, if you paid a hundred 140bucks.
So I donated 140 bucks and wewere hitting our first shot from
seven feet out from the pin oh,do you make it?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
yes nice, yeah, so there was a group that did the
throw on the first hole and Iheard they got a hole in one on
the first hole because somebodywas hitting the drive.
So it counted as zero if youpaid him something right and
then they threw their ball upthere close to the green, which
didn't count as a stroke, andthen they chipped it in for a
one.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Goodness, yeah, that's how we did.
Par five, whole one.
We we had a one.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So that goes into a lot of entertainment value.
And it's something I'm reallycurious about, because I built
golf garage specifically as atraining facility.
It was 15 years of just man, Iwant to teach golf.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm sure it's fun for a training facility, I know.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
How did that happen?
And I know, and it wasn't evenpart of the plan.
And so now you look at it andall the families and all the
kids and all the coaches and itjust seems like there's such a
balance of training andentertainment and I'm trying to
figure that out in the comingyears of like where's that
balance going to shift and howdo I get ahead of that balance
(04:48):
in the golf industry, becausethis is such a new being for
golf?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
you know, getting getting ahead of the balance is
a good thing, but also justletting it take its own shape oh
, without question is importanttoo.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And I mean, look, don't you think that it is right
?
I mean, we're putting the sushisushi like pop up in that now
is turning into a full timerestaurant.
You know, chef Ethan's done twopop ups here now.
Well, three days of pop ups andwe're building out a bar.
He's going to be here fulltimetime.
(05:23):
He's going to be doing this ashis full-time job, which is
amazing.
And then we're proving aconcept right now with a
Smashburger, because our areahas McDonald's and Burger King
and Fast Food joints all overthe place, right, and all the
mom and pops have.
Just, you know, they didn'thave anybody take over for them.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I mean they have come on, give In they didn't have
anybody take over for them.
I mean they have come on, giveit in and out, and five guys
some credit.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But there's still it's still a chain.
It's still a chain right.
So, the consistency of the foodis there, but it's not
something that is handmade bysomebody that cares enough.
That's getting that qualitymeat that's going out and
finding the right potato behindthat tastes with it Right.
So ultimately, you know we'regoing to be the place in town
for the burger, we're going tobe the place in town for the top
(06:08):
quality sushi, the freshestingredients, and it goes hand in
hand with what Golf Garage isanyway.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We're the pitcher of beer and 18 holes of golf in air
conditioning In Australia, yes,or Scotland, wherever you want
to be, yeah in the next day,let's just go place to place.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, the other thing, too, that's really unique
about this type of a facilityis I used to be a tournament
director at Centennial Golf Clubup the road, so the year it
opened.
Another pro is over at StoneRidge, vince Domanzine started
Centennial with OB Sports and Iwas brought in as an assistant
golf professional.
Didn't know a thing.
(06:45):
I worked in the golf industrysince I was 12, but working
behind the counter is a littledifferent and you know, what's
unique about it is you're tryingto collaborate with everybody,
and at a golf course you canonly collaborate so much in
season because you're bound bywhat the weather's going to
allow you to do.
Um and so here it's reallyunique.
(07:06):
I just had three hotel generalmanagers come in and talk to me,
cause I saw them at thatSouthern Oregon sports
commission tournament and I madea bet with them that if I
knocked it on the green on thepar four and one down the Hill
on number four, that I'd get afree hotel nights stay.
And I did nearly do it.
It actually kicked over, hitthe rake and kicked off the
(07:27):
green.
If the rake wasn't there Iwould have.
So they all come in unannouncedand they're they're trying to
talk about a collaboration One'sin Eugene, one's in band and
one's here talking aboutexpanding golf garage and then
also talking about how we canhelp each other.
And I was just like man, thisis so cool.
And I started, you know, kindof going through the things that
I could help them with and howwe could do golf trips, and I
(07:48):
said would you discount yourroom rates if I put you on our
website for our members?
So now when our members go toyour town, they're going to call
you before any other hotel.
That's a win.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's that saying it's not what you know.
Yeah, it's who you know.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Indeed, yeah, and that was just a lucky one, right
, but it's that constant I wantto partner with everybody.
Mentality that's going to grindthis out and make this a really
unique spot for the members,and that's what I'm trying to do
is even the members get adollar off the burger.
They get a dollar or two offsushi, the food truck.
I told them they need to do adiscount for members.
(08:25):
Like when do we get a dollaroff for next?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
pint of beer tonight.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Okay, simley, you got it, man, it's, I got you, so
it's it's pretty good.
Um, you know, kind of switchingit up a little bit.
We had a really really goodseason at SOU, so you had your
awards banquet last night?
We did, and you know we hadsome team photos the night
before last.
Yeah, so we had our.
(08:49):
Yeah, so we did a team eventonly at golf garage and had this
awesome charcuterie board.
That was good Gourmet hostessshout out for her.
She just rocked it and nowbecause of that, um, I don't
want to give the cat out of thebag, but there's going to be a
little gift, another gift forour members on the one year that
(09:13):
gourmet hostess is going tobring to the table, and it's not
edible.
So I'm really excited about thegift that keeps on giving
gourmet hostess.
It's not edible I know it's, Iknow I know.
So you'll just have to be hereon 7-11 and get that gift, since
you're a member um cocktailparty that night.
So it was really fun and wethank you for those photos.
(09:34):
You may.
You just take awesome photos.
Obviously you know the one of uh, thanks yeah and and just you
know, taking the photos, thegolf garage too.
So so shout out for you, buddy,um, but we had our uh end of
the year party for all ofathletics.
So this was nationalchampionship, for softball was
rowdy, you know, it's like whocheered the most at a game like
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that, you know, honestly.
And then you have your allvoted upon by your peers and the
staff of you know athletes ofthe year for each sport.
But what was unique was theyhad a raffle going on in between
, and Western beverage, which islike Budweiser, and you know
the beer company donated all ofthis stuff.
So it was pretty funny to see,you know, all the kids that are
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under 21, if they win a raffleprize, and three of the golfers
won raffle prizes and it has abeer logo oh man yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Whiskey logos yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think, uh, the coolest raffle prize was won by
Oliver Oslin.
He got a uh, tito's cooler no,he got a Bush cowboy hat or
something like that.
It was kind of funny, um.
But no, I mean in allseriousness, super excited.
I mean we had three allconference this year.
Um, you know, and I think thatmoving forward, we had two more
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that were literally within onestroke to three strokes, so like
0.00, whatever, and scoringaverage.
So in that tournament, only ifthey would have dropped one to
three strokes, we would have hadtwo more all conference.
So we're really moving up theranks in the CCC and it's all
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done by leadership.
It's.
It's helpful when you have agolfer or golfers that are
shooting the scores.
It makes recruiting so mucheasier and we have one of those
leaders with us here tonight.
Kira Chang, welcome back to themy Golf Source podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
We're so excited to have you, kira, again, yeah,
again, and I'm really excited tohear what you have to say about
how you finish the season.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
She's a lot less nervous this time and just seems
more relaxed.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I am relaxed, school's almost over yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I'm going to get smart.
You told me how many morefinals do you have?
Two, two in person.
And then it's done.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Then we're done.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Back to SoCal.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yep, all right, it's exciting.
What is the first thing you'regoing to do when you go to SoCal
?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Play golf.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's not just because I'm on this right now.
I mean she was prepared forthat question apparently All
right.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Well then, I'm going to ask this question because, uh
, in a year's time you've gonefrom I'd say, mediocre introvert
to you're kind of finding yourown way right now.
You're not afraid to speak theway you need to, You're not
afraid to ask for things, You'rebecoming a leader, a very good
leader, not only by example, butyou know in everything you do.
So what's the change?
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How did it happen?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I would say from new, the new girls coming on.
That was a big change,especially them being younger
and closer to age, and me andour other teammates.
I feel like we could bond alittle better and I began to
(13:01):
find myself, began to findmyself and, yeah, overall, just
new experiences has definitelyshaped me too being around
better people, more people, andyeah, just yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So what are you going to miss?
Most about college golf.
The people yeah, Just yeah.
So what are you going to missmost about college golf?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
The people yeah, yeah , I would say that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So you had a heck of a run going down the stretch in
conference, darren, and I'vetalked about this on the podcast
a little bit, how we were kindof waiting to see if you were
going to nationals, and that'san exciting thing and that's
congratulations.
Um, I don't say it to youenough, probably because I'm
always trying to just keep yougoing, but it's a big feat and
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if you're ever in that situation, um, there's butterflies and
there's nerves and there's allsorts of things and it's out of
your control, right, just likegolf in a way.
you know it's out of yourcontrol on right, just like golf
in a way you know it's out ofyour control on if the ball
deflects and goes in the waterand what you do with it.
So I've seen this so many timeswhere people do not persevere
after certain instances happenand oddly enough, I felt like
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your spring was a good season,but I don't think you absolutely
crushed it and then you startout shooting the first round 10
over par, Like you were in themiddle of the pack of all the
ladies and I want you to tell usabout rounds two and three and
how you came back and whathappened there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, after the first round it was a little
disappointing, but I knew thatit wasn't over yet.
I still had two more days ofgolf which a lot can happen in
between and I knew that all Ihad to do was just finish strong
and that's just about what Icould do.
And yeah, I knew going into thesecond day that it wasn't over
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and I still had a lot moreopportunities out there and I
just kept grinding and Itypically know that I play
better the second or third day,depending how long the
tournament is.
So after the first day I knewthe course already and I knew
what mistakes I made in thefirst day and I wasn't going to
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repeat them the second and thirdday.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You got it out of your system.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Exactly and I knew what shots I had to hit and
which spots to avoid, and thatdefinitely helped with my scores
and I just overall I felt supercomfortable.
My ball striking was super good, I was the most confident I've
probably ever been, super good,I was the most confident I've
probably ever been throughoutthe whole season and I just,
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yeah, I have carried that energyand feeling with me ever since
and now I know what it's like toplay in that environment.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, and so it's funny when you say that you
stayed out of trouble spots,because I remember rolling up on
you and you were in the mostodd situation I've seen you.
I think you had a good drive,so I wasn't even thinking about
driving up on you too quicklyand I thought your ball was up
on the green.
So I'm just nonchalantlywalking up and then all of a
(16:21):
sudden I see you disappear overthe back of the green.
And this is like the one green.
You don't go long on the pins,three feet from the edge, back
edge, and it's about a 30 footdrop off down into pine straw
and trees.
And here's Kira under this treein pine straw and you know she'd
come off some good up and downsand a few things happen.
(16:43):
She's kind of like in that,that phase of like.
Maybe I'm not hitting it realclose on these holes, but I'm
getting up and downs and a fewthings happen.
She's kind of like in that,that phase of like.
Maybe I'm not hitting it realclose on these holes, but I'm
getting up and down.
So I'm still grinding and I'mfeeling good about my game, but
this is one of those, a doubleor triple bogeys looking at you
in the face.
If you don't pull the shot off,I know what that feels like I'm
there all the time.
I took video of this shot thatwe will post.
It was one of the mostremarkable shots I've ever been
(17:06):
a part of and to the fact that Igot to help coach you through
it.
I still get goosebumps and Ithink about that shot when I
want to pull something good off.
So, going through that shot,you know what I'm talking about,
right, I do.
Will you walk us through thatshot and how we kind of went
through that scenario?
Cause I think you were thinkingdifferently than what we when I
paced it off and kind of talkedto you through it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, I mean I got there because I was put in that
situation because of myself.
I had a lapse of judgment withmy distance and I wasn't
thinking too clearly and I kindof just pulled a club that I
shouldn't have and I hit it atthe back of the green.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'm going for the back of the green.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, exactly, and I peered my shot so that I mean it
didn't really help with that.
So I end up like 15 yards, likepast the green, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, this is awful, Ihave no green to work with, it's
straight uphill.
I can't even see the hole orthe green in general, barely the
(18:15):
flag.
Yeah, exactly, and you cameover to me and you just you were
very calm, which calmed me downtoo, and you walked me through
the shot and you had such aclear vision of what you wanted
me to pull off and I wasconfident that I could pull it
off as well, because we hadpulled off a pretty tricky shot
before, even before that one,and so I felt, I felt pretty
comfortable doing whatever youwanted me to do and I did it and
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I pulled it off, and then Istill had about eight feet left
for par, but I was putting sogood that day that I it wasn't
even, it didn't even occur to methat.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I can miss it.
You're 15 feet down.
You're 50 feet off of the green.
You're in big trouble.
The pin, you have no green towork with and you put it within
eight feet.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, awesome, she had this punch shot into the
side of the hill that popsstraight up and almost flies
into the hole with some check onit and goes to eight feet.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
See, that's where it takes a pro to say hit the bad
stuff in front and let it bounceup there where people like me
are like I want to put it upthere and drop it just barely
onto the green and it's such aprecise shot that it's not
realistic.
And there was a tree branch inher way.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, if Noah hadn't been there I probably would have
done something a lot different.
That would have cost me atleast a double bogey.
But I miraculously walked awaywith a par and even my parents
came up to me after the roundand they were like we for sure
thought you were at least goingto get a bogey.
I'm like yeah, so did I.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But Noah said not today yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Well, you pulled it off.
That's awesome.
And it's interesting becauseyou put a lot in that story and
it's sometimes lucky that acoach can stumble upon a player
when they're in a situation,because when you're out there
and there's five to six of yourgolfers, depending on the event,
and they could be two milesapart from each other and you
don't know why they made doublebogey, but the scorecard popped
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up and then you get up there andall of a sudden they're back on
track.
But if you go up and say, hey,is everything okay?
Well, then all of a suddentheir thought process changes.
So every player's mindset is sodifferent that it's unique.
When you have 20 golfers betweentwo teams, you have to get to
know those mindsets reallyquickly.
To know who to run up on who tosee if they're on tilt.
You know give quickly.
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To know who to run up on who tosee if they're on tilt.
You know give them an extrahole, don't just rush over
because you saw something goodor bad and sometimes it's the
good that you're actually payingattention to and you're like,
okay, well, they're playing alittle out of their comfort zone
.
How do I go get themcomfortable going lower Right
and keep that motivation up.
And so for Kira it was justliterally um know, made a couple
mistakes coming down thestretch and I would say like,
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oddly enough, that was a greatup and down.
And then there was a coupleblemishes on the scorecard on
some scorable holes and then shegets up on the second to last
hole, which is a par five, andhits his awesome drive down the
right center.
But that wasn't even the shot.
She knocks three wood or fivewood onto the green to like 20
feet and proceeds to lip thatout for Eagle.
(21:11):
So she was never done.
You know like you make twobogeys and all of a sudden you
do that, you know, and then youend up shooting under par again,
you know.
So now you've got two roundsthis last season that were under
par.
So you know you can do iteverywhere and you've
accomplished your goal.
I think that's really theunique part about it.
You could have been upset aboutthat round and gone back
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through and said, well, I couldhave shot 66, but that's not the
point.
You ended up finishing top fourin conference and you beat the
number one and the number eightplayer in the country.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Congratulations that week, thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So no, it just shows that you can play with anybody
and beat anybody, and that'sjust where she is right now.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Awesome, you got a big future ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
So when you land your first job in the golf industry
in Southern California, you'regoing to have to come back on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, from there, there, we can do it by phone and
yeah, I'd love to problem thatshe's going to be traveling
playing a lot, so maybe you'rejust practicing California but
you're traveling to Texas toplay.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I mean she can still connect with us by phone.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Love that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Hey, you know what's funny too, Darren, what she was
on my team when we shot 48.
What, yeah Go partner Herputter was in Fuego that day too
.
I don't think I only puttedtwice, but how about the?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
where was it?
Where was that?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
At Stone Ridge.
Wow, yeah, did.
Did I tell you, I think Italked about the bet?
You were there for the bet,yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Oh, tj Holmes was getting lippy with me.
You know, tj, he's in the groupahead of us and we're on the
16th green and I'm last to puttand he watches everyone miss it.
And I'm up over the ball andhe's like 10 bucks, you miss.
I'm just like make it 30.
(23:02):
I immediately respond he's justlike no, no, no, he starts
driving.
I'm like all right, we'll makeit 30.
Cause he's like 10 bucks, nope.
So then I get over it again.
He's like 20.
I said 30.
And he says he starts driving.
I'm about to putt and he's likeokay, 30.
I was like okay, and I steppedback because I I thought I was
(23:23):
going to make it anyway.
I was just kind of waiting forhim to like get it.
And it wasn't an easy putt byany means.
It was 15 feet.
I had about 18 inches of breakfrom right to left, but I had
seen three before me and I wasreading it for them and they
just didn't quite hit the spotthat I was giving them.
Anyway, I get up there threefeet from the hole, I walk it in
(23:51):
and it snapped about that 18inches, the last three feet, so
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean, we talked about that at the end too just
about the confidence and theself-belief in the game, because
you always talk about the gamebeing hard.
That's the thing aboutscrambles, though, is you have
so much data that you otherwisewouldn't have watching your
teammates do putts.
You, you know there's, there'sreally.
No, I don't see.
I don't think we missed anyputts inside of 15 feet.
Yeah, between the four of us.
It's impressive because we cansee, see the line.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah there's a sense of I take that back.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
There was one eagle putt that we had.
It was about 12 feet.
We had it was about 12 feet andtwo of us lipped it just barely
, barely missed it and we usedthe mulligan on that.
And the first person who usedthe mulligan made it so nice.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, it's, it's interesting too.
I don't feel like there's thesame kind of pressure as if
you're by yourself.
You know, I think that mentally, especially amateurs put that
on themselves, that you knowI've got to get it back on the
next hole when you have 17 moreto go and you're like, well,
that guy's not going to playvery good and there's something
to be said for the mindset of,you know, having a really,
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really bad first couple of holesto be going.
Hey, I got that out of my way,I'm done now, so Kira how did
you learn to play the game, whodid you, how did you start the
game and why?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I used to play, like you're talking about golf, right
when you started golf.
Yeah, I used to play softballbefore I played golf, but my
brother was the first one toplay in our family and one day
my parents just asked me if Iwanted to try it out and go play
with my brother.
And I don't know why, but Ijust loved it.
For some reason I was just likedrawn to it and I was like this
(25:32):
is a lot of fun and I was anaturally far hitter.
So I was like if I canautomatically hit it far and
just dial up my short game, thenI could be decent.
And I mean, obviously I'm stillgrinding and working and lots
(25:53):
of more steps to go, but youknow it's all been such a fun
process that's led me here.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So and being a far hitter.
That that brings up the point.
You know, golf pros always talkabout putting and chipping.
Putting and chipping that'syour most important thing, which
has a lot of truth.
But playing in a scrambleplaying, playing with somebody
who can hit the ball 330 yardsI'll tell you what.
It makes the game a whole loteasier to start hitting greens
(26:22):
in regulation when somebody canhit hit a big drive it really
does.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, and one of the biggest disadvantages in women's
golf is their distance, so Ifeel like I was pretty blessed
with being able to hit it far.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So the pga tour plays at what?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
74, 7500 yards depends on the course, anything
over 7 000 up000 up to 76.
Sometimes.
Lpga uh, they're in that, 63 upto seven, depending on where
that's still.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
that's a lot, that's a lot of yardage.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, but it is still doing.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You know, 560 yard par fives, 600 yard par fives.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, the ladies, once in a a while we'll get
something up there in that 540,550 in like an open um.
You know, when you break downyardages just depends on course
setup right, they can make itone hole really long and then a
couple of them really short toeven it out.
Yeah, I mean kira's definitelyright on.
I mean she's a great putter butshe drives it so good.
You know finding a lot offairways when you're hitting it
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270 to 300 is awesome right.
That is a good position to showyou can go play with the on on
the tour.
Honestly, because if you'rehitting it that far and you're
hitting in the fairway, on tourfairways it's going more than
300 than two.
So that's really exciting stuff.
And I know that in a recruitingstandpoint or in a coaching
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standpoint, it's a lot easier tocoach somebody that can already
hit it far, because everyoneelse is always searching for
that distance.
Therefore, they're swingingharder than their ability.
Therefore, you're always tryingto get them to hone back in
until they can create the propertechnique to get that or go out
and work out harder.
And now, when you're workingout harder, you got to have the
right trainer or you're going toinjure yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Right Indeed and and playing and playing with a big
hitter I I found there was a lotof clubs in my bag that I would
normally use, that I don't use.
Yeah, you know, my long ironswere kind of out, because if you
hit a big drive you're only anine iron in on a par four.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Welcome to my world, right?
So good, hey, so we've got somefun stuff coming up too.
It'll be fun to get maybe Kirainvolved sometime too.
Maybe she'll come out and coachyou a little bit.
That'll be fun.
But I'm thinking, kira, I don'tknow if you know this, but we
are going to start videotapingDarren's game.
I'm going to teach himBasically.
(28:46):
We're going to try to break 80.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I shot an 83 in Simlick last week.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, so we're going to go full putt out on golf
course and we started with alittle bit of chipping and there
was a realization of what theclub was supposed to do by
Darren, and he's a little moreexcited now to probably get out
there and do it.
So our goal is we're looking atprobably eight to 10 weeks of
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this and we're going to reportback on all this as we go.
We're going to videotape someof it, um, but that's the
challenge and I mean I thinkagain, if I get you to do this,
I want to steak dinner deal.
Yeah, you got to make it,though.
You bet, that's the only way, no, kiss the cook like clothing or
anything like that.
No, no, awesome, yeah, no, it's, it's going to be really good
(29:35):
and um.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'll do brisket.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I need that.
What are we pairing it with?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh, good question.
What's for dessert?
I don't't know, that'ssomething I asked my wife hey.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
So the other thing that's kind of exciting up and
coming for both of us too, isthat you're going to be
producing some videos, um, forthe local tv station.
Also, I'm going to teach one ofthe anchors and it's a new
golfer and how to improve.
So it's going to be reallyunique to get.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
First set break 100, then break 90.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Can you go from 105 to 85 in 90 days?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well, maybe it's even nine holes, maybe it's break 60
, and then it's break 50, right?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Speaking of that, we just started the OP 36 program
again.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
OP 36 is awesome, so much fun, I shot a 27.
Yeah, but you missed awards.
We had a certificate for you.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know, we were the first tee time and we were done
early and we waited for aboutfive minutes and then we said
peace out.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yes, yes, you did.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Speaking of that, and we said peace out.
Yes, yes, you did.
Speaking of that, my I, I'm,I'm extremely encouraged with my
putting.
Lately my putting's been onpoint um.
I've avoided all three putts,even if I've on centennial
screens where I can have a 70foot putt.
You know, absolutely, I've been, I've been, I've been putting
(31:04):
well, I've been making a lot ofputts that have been in the 8 to
15 foot range.
So if I can keep everything ata 1 or a 2 putt, I'm excited to
see where the score can go.
We get the long irons anddriver and everything else in
place.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I have a question for you, kira.
I've never asked you this.
What do you think about tourputt and what do you think the
advantages are of that here,since you get to use it whenever
you want?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I can tell you that about um two weeks before
conference championships up inportland, um, every time I
practiced putting I was usingthe tour putt.
And I say I can contribute myputting to the tour putt because
it allowed me to visualize myputts so much better and see it
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going in the hole.
And especially with those shortputts, it's super easy to
misread them and, um just yeah,just miss them.
But I felt really reallyconfident with my like three to
six footers and those are theputts that you, you need to make
(32:15):
.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So well, I got to tell you I was doing a putter
fitting yesterday for somebodyand the putter fitting software
is so cool because it's allabout start line and it's about
distance control.
So start line would be your aimand how you deliver the club um
for it to go where you want itto go.
And distance controls arearguably the most important
(32:35):
thing that we look at in putting.
And I'm I'm watching this womanthat I teach and she told me
how bad she putted and she shot84 with like seven, three putts
and she's like 15 handicaps.
I'm like, wow, you're gettingbetter.
This is great.
So we go over to the tour putt.
I put her on it.
Nothing has to go on your putter, which is so cool, so there's
no weight changes when you'redoing the fitting process and
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she starts out and I'm justwatching her leave everything
short, especially when you gouphill, so it forces you to go
3% uphill trying to get goodspeed, and she's just like short
, short, short, one long, butway long, short, short, short,
way long.
And I'm just like, okay, soshe's fixing something at a
fault to make it go long andeverything.
(33:18):
She's adding loft and I'm justlike, hey, you know, I know
we're not done with the processyet and I'm watching all this,
but because of the way that thetest is done you can kind of get
an idea already that thatputter is not going to fit.
I said, hey, your putter is notgoing to fit you without giving
her too much.
And I said your putter is toolight for you.
Number one you know just fromwatching what was happening and
then seeing it and knowing howshe kind of hits it.
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And then we went through thetest and we gave her a putter
that was so much heavier andimmediately the ball started
getting there right.
But then we changed lie angleand a few other things too, and
then it gave you preferences onthe sight line.
It gives you the style, theweight to a gram it gives you
the you know the neck designlike it's.
(34:01):
It's so cool.
Um, it also gives youpreferences, so it gives you
three different putters usuallythat it recommends based on the
putting style of the player, andthen, um, it's up to the pro to
decide.
Well, I got a text that nightand she was extremely excited
because of how well she wasputting.
She went right out with it.
(34:22):
Luckily, I had a putter that Icould sell her.
Um, cause sell her?
Because it was awesome to see,awesome.
So those are the things thatare cool and why technology can
help you and, kira, I'm glad ithelped you as well and really
excited for you to get home tosee your family and get some
rest, and I know that you'regoing to not rest that much.
But at the same time, when weget back here, you're going to
(34:43):
be the leader and and everyone'schasing you.
You just keep moving forwardand extending those leads.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Thanks for joining us .
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Thank you for having me.
Thanks, kira.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
All right, one more thing that we promised that we
would do and we haven't done ityet.
We were going to compare, in ablind comparison review, the
data of the Costco Kirklandballs and a TP5.
Oh, because we had a wholepodcast episode on golf balls.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, and I'm actually going to be doing on
Wednesday that might be the dayto do it.
So on Wednesday I'm doing amember event where I'm doing
golf ball.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Fitting that's awesome and I just went out and
bought two brand new boxes ofCostco Kirkland balls Perfect
and the reason I bought thoseballs cause I don't play those
balls anymore.
But there's a reason.
It's because you have set upall these reciprocating
memberships right.
We're going down to Shasta Laketomorrow to play and I know
(35:46):
that course is narrow and it'swoody and it's hard and I don't
want to lose $4 golf balls.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I have to tell you I was playing in an event and I
can't name names.
But we get up to the seventhhole at rug Valley country club
and it's a short downhill holewith a pond and I'm in the cart
with my playing partner andwe're all talking and he pulls
out this ball and any.
We're for some reason out ofleft field.
(36:19):
He's like here's my water ball.
I'm like I like second, likewhat do you?
What?
What's your water ball?
Oh, it's my water ball, causewe're on the water hole.
This is what I'm not scared tolose this is the one because I
always go in the water.
I'm going to get my water balland had dirt on it.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm like he just doesn't.
He gave up, he doesn't care,yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Well, this was the cool part he was having the
round of his life.
Gets up there, hits a greathybrid down to 100 yards out in
the middle of the fairway withthis water ball and he almost
hits it in the water.
But he gets over right barelyto a really tough spot.
Gets up and down for par.
This is like a 24 handicapperEnded up shooting, I think, 90
(37:01):
or something that day, 90 maybe.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Even I played the country club two weeks ago and I
had a tiger woods moment onthat hole where I had a really
bad drive.
It was short right and I had, Iwas in the rough and I had
major tree trouble.
Um, and I was a hundred and Ithink I was 158 out and I'm in
(37:23):
pretty deep rough.
I'm like I'm to take an eightiron and I'm just going to hit
it as hard as sloppy as Iprobably can.
I'm going to hit it as sloppyand as hard as I can and
hopefully my old super hardslice will come back.
And sure enough, I just slicedit right around that tree,
(37:44):
landed within five feet of thehole and had a one foot birdie
putt oh, man, shot of thetourney.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, I think we need to do that comparison which
moment I get one or two of thosea year.
Was that a Kirkland ball?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
no, it was a tp5x oh nice, the ball I would pick, hey
.
So Wednesday the 11th, we'regoing to do that 5.30 to 6.30
here at the garage for members,a little cocktail party.
I'm going to talk about it,we're going to go through some
of it, I'm going to do a fewblind tests and then every
(38:20):
member will get a complimentaryball fitting from one of the
professionals here.
So I think it'd be really funto go through and actually test
that Kirkland ball that nightagainst a premium ball and see
what it's going to do.
Then we can report back on whatwe noticed.
As far as for sure, I think I'dlook at driver a little bit and
I might look at some wedge spinnumbers, maybe a mid iron, but
(38:43):
for the most part I want to seewhat the spin rate's doing.
I want to see if there's anydistance changes.
Um, what I noticed with dimplesa lot of times is you're going
to see the aerodynamics changewhere it goes higher or lower.
So I'm really curious to testbecause I haven't had a chance
to do that in a few years andwe'll take some up close
pictures of them versus apremium ball.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Well, they say they're, they are a premium ball
.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Apparently they're like a trophy, and see if
there's any difference in thedimple pattern.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm excited about that.
It's going to be great.
All right, man, until next time, right, until next week, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
We took a week off because we needed it.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
We needed it.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
We were both busy in tournaments.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Supporting the community though Supporting the
community.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
They were charity tournaments.
Tell me about the tournamenttomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So tomorrow's the BMW Southern Oregon Classic.
It's one of the largest partytournaments and when I say that
it's a big deal in thetournament realm, but then
there's a huge party with allthe local fair, all these
companies coming in, live music,live music, big band stage I
think there's a few thousandpeople that come to it.
Really expensive tickets ifyou're not playing in the
(39:51):
tournament.
Yeah, exactly, and we aredefending our honor tomorrow.
Team Rutledge was last year andI believe this is Tyler Lake's
team tomorrow.
So we're going to go out andsee what we can do.
All right, can't wait to hearabout it.
All right, thanks buddy Takecare.
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