February 14, 2025 • 47 mins
This episode delves into the nuances of improving your golf game, especially regarding spin control, with insights from co-hosts Darren and Noah along with guests Kira and Mason from SOU’s golf team. Featuring listener questions and expert advice, the discussion covers everything from equipment choices to personal preparation strategies for tournaments.
• Discussion on the recent weather impacts on local golf courses
• Tips for improving backspin on wedge shots
• The importance of center hits and proper equipment
• Advice for managing cutting and hooking with drivers
• Personal routines shared by student athletes for tournament day preparation
• Insights into the camaraderie and community within collegiate golf
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the MyGolfSource podcast.
Welcome to this episode four ofthe MyGolfSource podcast.
I'm Darren.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm Noah and we are here yet again and I can't
believe it's been a month awhole month, oh my gosh and the
snow's starting to melt a littlebit a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Some parking lots still have it.
Your parking lot still hasquite a bit of snow yeah, but
that's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We have a roof over our head.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I drove by a few golf courses and they're got
construction crews out at theirfacilities fixing all the damage
from the snow and it's kind ofa crazy situation, man.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well, yeah, I mean, it's been what uh, fourth
highest snowfall in southernOregon history.
We've had roofs collapse um thelocal high school in fact,
north Medford High, yeah, it'sincredible and um also a local
distributor.
Their building collapsed and weused them actually for some of
our beer sales and talking toboth of those facilities.
(01:11):
Luckily no one was inside Wow,wow.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Crazy weather, crazy times, crazy golf stuff.
We're going to be talking witha couple SOU golf players that
are going to be headed down tothe Providence Invitational in
Los Angeles this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, we've got Kira and Mason coming on um both in
the top five consistently and,uh, kira is actually coming off
a win from the fall, so lookingforward to having them on later.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Excellent and and one of the big things we want to
focus on on this podcast is totruly be the number one golf
source in the nation where wetake people's questions, we
teach people tips and tricks,and we're going to be setting up
opportunities for people onsocial media to message us, to
record their voice, to send itinto the show, and we're going
(01:58):
to have professionals answeringquestions that you may have to
give you some tangible advice togo out and onto the golf course
and improve your game.
Our first question today isfrom Tyler.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I'm struggling.
My wedges shot onto the greenbut once it hits next to the pin
it rolls back.
So how do I get more spin onthat shot?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, hey, tyler, thanks for the question, I think
number one.
It reminds me of a story.
Arnold Palmer was in given aclinic, obviously quite a while
back, and one of the best youknow players of all time in his
era, and he was talking to thesepeople about something similar
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where, out of the gallery, theyasked you know how do I put more
backspin on the ball?
And, in short, arnold said youknow how many times you hit in
the center of the face?
And the guy couldn't answer thequestion and basically, until
you could hit it in the centerof the face, it didn't matter as
much, right?
So that's, that's ideal, um,when we're.
But you know, to answer yourquestion, there's a lot of
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variables.
Um, when we're talking aboutspin out of the rough, depending
on how thick it is, dependingon the lie, you're rarely going
to get spin anyway.
So you're really going to haveto pay attention to the loft and
the bounce of your wedge.
If you're chipping, um, youknow, the more loft you have is
what's going to create that spin, um, or backspin, and allow the
ball to actually check up onthe green.
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But if you're not striking it,well, you're not going to have
any spin anyway right.
The other thing I think we getcaught up in is sometimes we hit
that wonderful golf shot thatdid check up and spin right.
It was solid center of the face, which is just what I was
saying, and so we think that'sthe norm and a lot of times we
need to learn how to manage ourmishits better.
I don't know any tour playersthat are naturally trying to put
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so much spin on the ball thatit just hits and stops.
Very often they have to havethe ideal lie firm turf
condition and a really tight liefor that to happen, and it just
takes years and years ofpractice to understand what it
feels like to allow your wristto release that club in the
right manner to allow the bounceto work properly.
So that's called low pointcontrol, essentially.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Where the face of your club literally pinches that
ball down into the turf right.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, exactly.
And so what happens is if youdon't understand the tool you're
using, right, it would be liketaking a claw nail, hammer right
.
You're like, okay, I'm going tohammer this nail, but with the
backside that I pulled a nailout with right.
Nobody would ever do that right?
No, it doesn't work.
But they were taught that.
They were taught to use theproper side of the hammer.
And so in the golf swing it'sthe same thing Like if you don't
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understand what a wedge's jobis and how to use it.
If you haven't been tested orfit for your bounce of the club,
you don't know and a lot ofthat has to do with turf
conditions that you're in softerclimates, you know tend to need
more bounce.
You go down to the arizonadesert.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Depending on the turf you're playing in and the time
in the year, you might want aneight degree bounce wedge is it
fair, is it a fair metric to saythat if you're hitting ball
first with a wedge and you takea divot after contact with the
ball, that you're going togenerate more spin than if you
were to just pick it right offthe turf and no divot?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So it depends, right.
Is the club face squared impactor not?
So if the club face is squaredimpact, yes, that's a thing, but
if someone's coming over thetop steep and across, they have
a shut face, no Right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And in the simulators when I watch the performance of
my ball.
If I'm at 8 000, 7 000 or 8 000backspin, my ball is going to
roll off the back of the green.
If I'm at 9 10 000, my ball isgoing to check up really fast.
If I'm in excess of 11 000backspin revolutions per minute
backspin, my ball is going tozip backwards yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So there's an ideal um launch window, essentially
for a wedge.
So when you're looking at moreof a full swing shot, you could
take your loft of your wedge,say 60 degrees.
You want to divide that by two.
That's your launch condition.
So 60 degrees of loft equatesto about 30 degrees of launch
angle and then you want as muchspin as you can have.
If If I'm a tour player, I want11,500.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
If you can, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
They're playing on some of the first, firmest,
fastest greens in the world.
And one of the biggest things,too, on spin is ball.
So not only can you create spinthrough a good hit right, and
that's where you want to go seeyour local tour or your local
PGA professional or professionalto get fit properly for your
wedges.
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And then maybe it's not a fit,maybe it is a lesson, maybe it
is something that you need to dodifferently, maybe it's club
choice in that area.
But golf ball between, like aTP5X and a TP5, that's 300 RPM,
wow.
So that right there in itselfhelps you.
If you're playing a two-pieceball, you know it could be three
or four times that much, or ifyou go buy the walmart special
(06:51):
for you know 16 bucks, I thoughtI saw you there the other day
is that where you were shopping,I, it was costco oh, there you
go involved, yeah, yeah thelawsuit's over right.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, oh nice well, all right, that that's that's.
That's great advice and, like Isaid, just being able to get
the analytics behind what we'reseeing our ball do as amateurs
out on the course um makes a lotof sense.
So thank you for your question,tyler.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Next question is going to be from adam hey guys,
it's adam, I've got a questionfor you.
So I've been having to tee offwith my six iron, which is a
little bit pathetic, because I'meither slicing it really bad or
I'm snap hooking my driver, andI sure would love to use my
driver.
What suggestions do you have,or what's like the first step to
get that thing lined up?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Hey Adam, thanks for your question, and I'm pretty
sure this is Adam Rutledge.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think it is so shout out the infamous Adam
Rutledge from the RutledgeProperty Group.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well, first of all, shout out to Adam and thanks for
your question.
Pretty funny Quick story aboutAdam.
I've given Adam a few lessonsand first time I ever played
golf with Adam was at RogueValley Country Club and we're on
the first hole.
He's 150 yards out and he pullshis wedge pitching wedge and I
hadn't really seen him play upto that point and I'm like, hey,
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do you want more club?
Like what's going on with this?
And he decides to take a whaleat that pitching wedge and hits
it over the road.
He carried it 200 yards withthis pitching wedge it was the
longest wedge I've ever seen.
So anyway, was it?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
was it a good strike or did he played it it?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
was an incredible strike.
So I'm just like, well, we'vegot.
This was the assessment.
This was like, on course,assessing, checking this out, so
so obviously the guy's very,very gifted, it's got a lot of
speed, um you know it works outa lot works out a lot right.
Owner of a 45, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, with that being said, um,you know there's a lot in that
question, and the number onething is he's talking about
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directional miss Right.
He's like, and I'm snap hookingit.
Well, if you're snap hooking it, the direction of the club face
matters.
That club face is pointed, fora right handed golfer, to the
left and he's a right handedgolfer.
So obviously when the faceshuts down, it delofts Right,
right, it delofts the club faceand therefore it's hard to get
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it up in the air.
And so when you're dealing withthat, at the rate of speed that
you swing at you know that'shalf the battle.
You, you have to be aware ofthe club face.
So you know there's a couplethings there.
Number one his six iron does go240.
So on most golf courses he'splaying, that's probably plenty
of club.
And I even remember telling himon like the second hole, you
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might just need to hit seveniron.
You're pregnant, your goal isto out drive everybody I played
with adam.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Adam played on a tournament with me um the
david's chair tournament atstoner's golf course almost two
years ago and he brought out atwo iron I think, for his, for
his tee shots.
I'm like, dude, you can't playwith us if you're not hitting a
driver.
Where's your driver?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He's like Noah took it from me Of course I did, yeah
, and he probably played prettygood too, you know.
Going back to that question, Imean Adam made a lot of growth
with that driver too.
It was so funny because hewould hit snap hooks and we
finally got him to cut the balland then he started hitting it
better, um.
But.
But there is something uniqueabout it.
(10:11):
It's um in in lessons,particularly when you're
snapping it.
It's not just one thing.
Sometimes there's some otherthings mentally there that go on
with certain players too, wherethey don't want to see it.
Ben hogan was a great example ofthat.
He never wanted'd never wantedto see that snap hook, which is
why he changed his grip, whichwas the Hogan secret, and the
grip is definitely somethingthere.
But number one is going to beset up right.
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We got to make sure that theclub face is set up square to
the target first, and I wouldjust go into that for Adam too,
that the first thing I wouldwant him to do is actually set
up with the club out in front ofhim, making sure that the club
face is square to the target,almost like you're looking down
a ping pong paddle or a racketand see that face square and
then you're going to bow down tothe ball, essentially, and and
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you're going to address the clubto the target first, and then
take your stance, because whatyou're going to notice is the
club face is most likely left,and you're probably trying to
compensate for that left, maybewith your body.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So don't line up your feet and then drop the club in
front of the ball, behind theball.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Correct.
I always.
I always tell people too.
A lot of times when they see ashot they don't like, they tense
up even more and you know theytry to do something exact
opposite, like aim a differentdirection.
Well, sometimes when you aimthe to the right, let's say that
might create even more of asnap hook if the face is left,
depending on how you're swinging.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, I know, I have a problem with slicing the ball
and then I try to correct it andI overcorrect and I get into
the snap hook and that's a goodtip and I need to apply that too
where I drop the club facebehind the ball, line up the
club face and then adjust mystance to that.
That actually makes a couple ofweeks ago.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Um, you know, depending on the technology you
have and what it can do.
Um, you know, like sports boxAI, where we can see that 3d
person right, we know how theymove and so, being able to see
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how a player moves, we candecide if they need to take it.
Let's say, more inside right oror more straight back, more two
plane swing versus one planeswing there's so many different
concepts out there, but definingthat um is all relative to um
getting to know your student andthe relationship you're
building, so that way, you know,you could teach them from afar
if you have to Awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Adam, thanks for the question, buddy and um, our last
question for today is fromDerek.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Hey guys.
This is Derek Got a questionabout a driver.
I'm struggling with prettyconsistent toe high hits on
driver.
I'm not experiencing that issuewith my mini driver finding the
center of the face pretty oftenwith it, Wondering if I might
have equipment issue with theshaft.
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It's kind of my thoughts thatthe driver's shaft might not be
stiff enough for me.
It's tip 120-ish club speed,ball speed about 170.
Currently playing Callaway EpicLS with a Mitsubishi MMT 70,
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extra stiff on it.
On the Mini I've got aMitsubishi CK Pro White 72 or
stiff.
Any suggestions or help wouldbe greatly appreciated, Thank
you.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, thanks for your question, Derek.
Number one, I just did somesimple math on my calculator.
He's ball speeds at 170, clubhead speeds at 120, smash
factors at about 1.41, 1.42.
He's a beast.
I mean he is at a 1.5, right.
So hit location is obviouslyoff center, right.
And yeah, I mean he's playingequipment.
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Everything he was saying shaftwise is white.
So essentially, when we getinto like a whiteboard shaft,
most of our manufacturers atthis point are color coded with
the shaft.
So you've got red, which istypically a little bit softer of
a shaft, maybe some more twistin there to help the golfer,
essentially.
And then you've got the blues,and then you've got the blacks,
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and then you've got the whites.
And then he's talking abouttour spec as well.
So if it's a tour shaft, right,that could mean it's even a 2X
or a 3X, I don't know withoutseeing it.
However, the one thing I'm goingto say is shaft is player
preference.
It has nothing to do with youknow hitting it higher or lower.
It has everything to do withhow you feel that club head.
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And if you can't feel the clubhead and know where it is in
space, you're gonna have areally hard time delivering it
at impact consistently?
Um, obviously, a couplequestions would be is is this
player already currently takinglessons?
What are they doing right?
And I think, um, for me, thenumber one thing here is that
he's saying he's hitting it highon the toe.
So what?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
that tells me, potentially without with his
driver, but not with his minidriver.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Right, exactly.
So a couple of things there.
Right, mini driver is going tobe much, much smaller CC head.
Most likely.
It's a higher lofted club aswell, potentially, and it could
be more like a three wood,essentially Right, and so the
length of the club could bedifferent too, depending on.
I'm not there, but what I wasgoing to say is high toe hits
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many times are because of a lossof posture, potentially, and
that club is moving.
So if he is swinging as hard ashe is, he might not be
stabilizing his lower body aswell as he should be right, so
he might not be in sequence, aswe call it, lower body leading.
And what can happen is if you'reswinging that hard and you
can't stabilize, you're going tocome out of posture almost
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standing up, or your hands aregoing to do something where
maybe they're raising up, andthat's going to bring the club
closer to you to a toe hit.
So what I would recommend inthis situation, just first and
foremost, is a hallway drill,super simple.
Grab two sticks, put them downabout half an inch wider than
the driver at the target you'retrying to hit at and see if your
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hit location gets better.
Number two you probably havetechnology, it sounds like to
know where hit location is.
But if you don't, you can get apiece of tape from your local
professional that has hitlocation on it.
You can take baby powder, putit on the face.
They have the foot spray youcan spray you know on there and
it'll show you exactly whereyou're hitting it on the face
too, if you go to the drivingrange versus a place like ours
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where we have the technologyright then and there.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And when you're generating that much clubhead
speed, aerodynamics have to comeinto play and a driver is by
nature going to have moreresistance than a mini driver
because it's bigger, right.
And so does it come into playwhere I've heard you talk about.
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You know you're getting yourhands through the ball and
you're not giving the time forthe driver head to release at
the right time.
And so much of that has to dowith one it's bigger and heavier
to the shaft is longer.
Three it's lesser aerodynamicthan a fairway would yeah, I
mean it's.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's amazing right now the technology out there is
so aerodynamic anyway, I meanthey, I mean just unlimited
amounts of money in R and D,even like with air going over
the driver, and you know, theystart with CAD, they get into AI
, they do all this stuff withhead design not to go down that
rabbit hole right now, but youcan make a driver extremely
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light if you want to, dependingon swing, waiting it, um,
depending on shaft.
You know, when I first startedplaying golf, graphite was
coming out and they'd have tothrow out about 10 shafts for
every one good one, literally.
They were just so far off.
They'd have to do these thingscalled spine checking and
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checking, you know, thedeflection of the shaft to make
sure it was a good fit for you.
Now, like 99% of the shaftsthat come off the line are
almost exactly the same.
So, as far as the other there,they're very good.
The quality control now is somuch better than it used to be,
um, and so what I would say alsoin this is just, you know, when
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you get into somebody with thatclub head speed, that's awesome
, cause you can't just that clubhead speed.
That's awesome because youcan't just teach club head speed
.
You got to learn it.
You know it's a gift at somelevel as well.
But one degree open, closedface of that club head speed
when you are now carrying itpotentially 285 to 3, yeah to
310.
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Yeah, now, all of a suddenyou're hitting it into the trees
right or left, because you'rehitting it into the trees right
or left, because you're hittingit so far.
So it's kind of like that happymedium of you know, the mini
driver might be the club for youa lot of the time because
you're hitting it well andyou're already hitting it 270.
And even on a tour course, ifyou're hitting it 270 down the
middle and your nine iron goes160, you know game on Right.
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So some of it could be strategyas well, um, but you know we're
working on that right now withthe SOU team.
We're going down to California,um, on Monday and the golf
course that we're playing downthere requires a certain shot
shape which is more of a cut orit's going to be a, you know,
cutter's paradise and there'sdesert golfers paradise.
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There we go, yeah, yeah,exactly, and the lefties are
going to want to hit draws.
But I think everyone on theteam going down right now is a
righty.
So it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Excellent, and, kara, you're from Southern California
, I am what, and it's excitingthat you're going to get to go
home to play golf.
Is this a course you'refamiliar with?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
It's not, but I am excited to play it.
I think I've heard of it, butI've never played it before.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So what brought you up to Southern Oregon to go to
school?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I was emailing a couple other colleges about
playing golf, like anywhere, andum, noah had emailed me and
reached out and asked to talkand I was like yeah, like why
not, let's do it.
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And then we set up a zoommeeting and then we talked and
then after that, after talkingwith him and him telling me
about his plan to build theprogram up and everything about
the new golf team, I was like Ican get on board with this, like
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I really like it, and oregonwas far enough away from home to
where I wanted it to be, but itwas still across some
independence and be an adultyeah, exactly, but I think it
was like close, express someindependence and be an adult.
Yeah, exactly, but I think itwas like the perfect place,
because it's as a little similarto the weather in California,
just a little bit colder.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I would say A little bit cooler, a little bit hotter
in the summer.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Yeah, but it's still great.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And we got some great golf courses around here to
play as well.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
What are you studying in school?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I am studying uh business administration
excellent.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
There's such a high demand for that.
Yeah, absolutely, um, so what?
What have you done over thelast couple of weeks to prepare
for this course?
You're coming off a win, right?
Yeah, um, how is it to come offof a win and that high you have
?
And I can only imagine there'snow more pressure on you that
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you don't want because thatexpectation, that bar has been
set.
How do you balance the rush andthe high and the excitement of
coming off a win with preparingfor success in your next
tournament?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It honestly just enhances my excitement even more
, and I always have highexpectations for myself anyway,
so it's really nothing new, and,win or not, I still played good
in Arizona, and it just made meeven more excited to continue
playing, especially now that thetournament that's coming up.
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It's somewhere that I amfamiliar with, and so I'm pretty
excited about that.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Is this a course, noah?
That is on the simulators.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
It's not, and so that preparation strategy is
definitely really important forus.
So that preparation strategy isdefinitely really important for
us.
I had mentioned previously thatwe'd used the simulators to get
ready for a tournament up in.
Washington and it definitelyhelped on all the dog legs that
were there and the elevation andyou know you could change
humidity and all that.
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So you know, for us we lookedat the golf course the other day
on a flyby and one of our otherplayers, our captain on the
men's, ricky he couldn't be heretoday because he's already down
there Right, so he went alittle early to see family but
he's played at a bunch.
It's 10 minutes from his house.
So it's unique that we havethree players on the team from
the LA or greater area and thatwe get to go home where they're
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going to have some familymembers out there rooting for
them too.
And the golf course is veryunique.
It's not ridiculously hilly butit requires some accuracy and
we know from what Ricky wastelling us cause we let him do
the walkthrough and tell, tellthem the team kind of.
These are some things to watchout for.
And at the end of the day itwas very easy to see that we
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just got to get off the tee.
Well, I mean, we have a groupof amazing ball strikers between
the men's and the women'sprograms already, so usually
it's about how fast we get it inthe hole on the green.
But I would just say in thisinstance you know, having a few
months off and now coming rightinto it and having snow and not
being on the course one timeprior to going, you know it's
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going to be really fun to getdown there play a practice round
.
I think everyone's excited toget on a golf course, probably
wearing shorts down there,depending on the weather.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And, uh, that excitement leads to some great
things, that's for sure, tell mewhat is your routine from the
morning you wake up on the dayof a tournament?
What do you?
What do you eat?
What do you think about, whatdo you do?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Um, I mean, I wake up with excitement just cause I'm
ready to play.
Um, I hydrate myself, drinkwater first and foremost, and
then I just get ready as this,this, as if I was going to any
other tournament that I'veplayed before best western
breakfast yeah okay the best,yeah, and then um talk with my
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teammates, see how they'refeeling.
Um, just talk with them aboutany concerns they may have.
Um, they ask me questions aboutwhat I'm going to focus on
during the day.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
So you find your comfort in camaraderie with the
team.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Where I know other people find their comfort in
superstitious, quirky, funny,odd things and wanting to be
alone.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
And that's so cool when you're on a college team to
have you know, to have thatcamaraderie to depend on yeah,
people, a lot of people thinkthat golf is an individual sport
, and it is for the most part,but when you're playing at a
collegiate level, it's more teamthan anything yeah, and you get
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, even if you playing well, youget that pressure that's put on
you too.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
If you know somebody has a really bad hole, it's like
, okay, well, here's myopportunity to help make up for
that as a team and do my partExactly.
Yeah, cool.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, I would just say just to echo that that team
side of it, you know our cultureis all about family at SOU.
I've stressed that since dayone.
And um, you know it's uniquethat we have Mason over here.
He's going to be interviewed ina few minutes.
And then we have um, kira andyou know, both freshmen coming
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into a program, um, you knowwhere they, you know, did have a
fairly decent team culture.
I felt like down where they wereat Um, and so to be able to
have um players already come in,knowing what it feels like and
then being able to take it andmake it personal for themselves,
because we are a new programand I remember recruiting Kira
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that was one of the biggestselling points for her is, you
know, she's a great golfer.
Obviously she could have went Done and for us to have her, you
know, we're fortunate, becauseI think the selling point in
itself was that, oh, I can.
I can create the culture that Iwant because it's a new program
, and then I can help grow it toa level of you know that, that
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I can help bring in otherplayers because I'm a good
player and I mean that's whatyou need.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
You need good players if you're going to recruit good
players golf is unique in thatit it, if you have a great coach
and you have great camaraderie,it doesn't matter whether
you're playing for d1 or d2 ord3, it doesn't matter because
you're not having, you know,professional organization
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recruiters out there looking atyou.
It's up to you.
So if you feel your skills canbecome more refined because of
great coaching in a smallerschool, you're going to be more
set up for success on theprofessional level after college
, right?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Well, and I just also think that from my experience
you know, whether it's workingwith a junior golfer with the
dream of playing on the PGA touror a professional golfer, um,
it's the work ethic they'reputting in on their own,
regardless of where they go.
I mean and I think that'sprobably some advice for some of
those junior golfers lookingit's like just go play, find a
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place to play, play all fouryears, play competitive golf,
you'll be better.
I played division three.
I could have went D1.
I had offers and opportunities.
I had walk-on opportunities allover, but it wasn't important.
What was important was I wantedto be able to go play and I did
for four years.
My ultimate plan was to go D3and then see how I did and go D1
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.
The second um after I got rankedin the country, I had a D1
interview with a school that Iwas looking into and they told
me I couldn't do the major Iwanted to do.
We traveled too much.
So immediately I shut down likewell, this isn't what it's
cracked up to be, and I spentthe remaining three years at
Pacific University Best decisionof my life, because I got
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everything I wanted, you know,and I didn't have to compete for
it at a big school.
It was awesome.
Carol, what is your?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
most memorable round of golf.
Where was it?
When was it?
How did you play?
Well, I've been in college, orno, your whole life, your whole
golf career.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Honestly, I would say Arizona's pretty up there,
arizona's pretty up there.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
How awesome was it in the playoff?
I just let's back up.
We rode in a car together inthe playoff.
Can you tell the story of howyou were feeling and then what
happened?
Just walk us through, you know,in a minute or two, this, this
playoff that you had, and then,obviously, the celebration at
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the end was incredible.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
So yeah, so um, after I finished the round, I was
very happy with my performancefor the tournament overall, and
then I was expecting to justride back to our house and leave
for the airport.
And then Noah comes up to meand he's's like you're about to
play in a playoff, and I'm likereally, I was like I wasn't
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expecting to be tied for first,but I wasn't really keeping
track of the score.
Anyway, I was just happy withthe way I played.
And then we rode back to the18th hole, which is where the
first hole of the playoff was,and I was like very nervous.
I had never been in a playoffbefore and I just didn't really
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know what to expect.
And the girl I was playingagainst was also very good, and
Noah was just right there thewhole time.
He was talking me through aboutanything that was on my mind
and then, when it was time totee off, I think we went with
probably the most perfect cluband shot that I could have had
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at the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
What was that?
What did you tee off with?
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I teed off with a 5-wood and the girl teed off
with a driver, and if I had hitmy driver I probably wouldn't
have been in the fairway.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And how was the other girl?
Speaker 6 (30:36):
She was fine uh, she was in the middle of the fairway
but I was to the left side andthe pin was to the right, so it
set me up with a perfect shot in, because I had a lot of room
for error and I hit a nicelittle cut right inside of the
hole and had like 20 feet uphilloh, that gives me goosebumps.
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Yeah.
And then the girl's secondapproach shot.
She pulled it a little left andshe was a bit far from the pin.
And then we walk up to thegreen and I had a similar putt
previously during that round inthe same day and I was shaking
over the ball.
I was so nervous because I waslike I don't really want to play
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another playoff hole.
I kind of just want to get thisover with.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well, plus, we had a flight to catch.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
That too.
Yeah, the pressure, my gosh,noah.
But I wasn't thinking aboutthat.
I was just thinking aboutmaking the putt and I was
telling Coach Noah that I wasjust so nervous I don't really
know what to do.
But he just talked me throughthe whole thing.
He said I'm just going to letyou feel what's right and do
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what you need to do to make thisputt.
And he just stepped back.
Let me do what I did and youmade the birdie putt.
I made it yeah, awesome,awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I can just picture Noah standing over there on the
french tapping on the clock likecome on no, you know what, um,
as nervous as she says she was,she did not look nervous or act
nervous.
There was some nerves drivingup to the t and it was pretty,
pretty awesome as we talkedthrough it, because the look
changed after we talked throughit and you could tell she was
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zoned in, ready to go and thefive wood was the best place you
could have ever hit, cause um,the girl hit it about 50 yards
past her five wood and Kira hitsit far, and this girl actually
probably hit it a little bitfarther than Kira does.
So you know, the fact is,sometimes when you get into
those playoff situations itturns to match, play Right, and
so the mindset shouldn't shift.
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You got to take whatever youknow, whatever horse you wrote
in on, and I think that was likekind of the, the knowledge I
was trying to give to her.
It was like it's okay, justrelax, you just got into a
playoff, you're playing greatright now, go play golf, and so
I think that was a little bitcomforting.
And then, you know, movingforward, um, kira had the upper
hand because she got to playfirst, so hitting five would
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when the girl had driver.
Now it's like, ok, I'll hit itclose and she did, and the girl
pulled her wedge 50 feet fromthe hole and then she hit it to
like six feet, so she didn'teven have a gimme yet.
So I would say that, looking atit from a coaching perspective,
I'm like man, you can be freedup on this putt and actually hit
it two or three feet by, andyou'll still have her putt first
.
And you know, I think for Kira,the second she hit it.
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I recorded the whole thing, butthe celebration with your mom
and your sister was just goingto ask do you have this on video
?
I have it on video.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We might have to post it on the my golf source uh
Facebook page.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
okay with you, mm-hmm .
Yeah, excellent, yeah, we gotto do that tonight.
Sounds good, we'll get that upthere All right, and before we
move on to Mason, what's likeyour dream bucket list course
that you haven't played?
Augusta, augusta, yeah, yeah,the Untouchable.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, they have a tournament you can play in.
For that, that women's amateur,we might have to get you signed
up, oh yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, have you ever played golf overseas?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
That'd be fun too.
Yeah, All right, Mason Garrett.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It's been a pleasure meeting you.
This is my first time meetingyou and thanks for coming on the
show with us yeah, thank youfor having me all right.
All right, mason, thanks, um,thanks for coming in here and
joining us as well.
You're also from southerncalifornia.
You're also playing for sou.
What brought you up here tosouthern oregon?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
uh.
So I was, uh, emailing colleges, kind of like Kira, and there
were some schools that offeredme but there were others that
also didn't, and I had Noah, uh,actually, he emailed me and my
mom, uh, it was so funny.
My mom saw the email first,which was kind of bizarre, but
she's just like, uh, hey, uh,school um reached out to you,
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southern Oregon.
I'm like, oh, really, and, uh,he wanted to get a zoom call
right away and I kind of justgot the impression from him that
like he wanted me and it feltreally nice to be wanted and he
was very, um, yeah, he was very,uh, nice about it and it was
awesome to give me thatopportunity.
And so we had the zoom meetingwent really well scheduled.
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A visit went down to the visitand he seemed very confident in
getting me and, uh, and he didso it was awesome.
Good, well, welcome to southernoregon.
What, what are you studying?
I'm studying, uh, businessmanagement okay a lot of
business management people.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I think we're gonna open up a big big, big company.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
We're gonna franchise golf Garage and they're all
going to take one.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You know what.
You've lived in severallocations.
I've lived in several locationsand the one super unique thing
that I love about the RogueValley here in Southern Oregon
is if you are an entrepreneur,there is endless opportunity
there.
The population growth here hasbeen off the charts over the
last 10 years, and if you own abusiness and want to provide a
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service, the community here isso hungry for it.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, I would agree.
I mean, the community is still,even though it's a hundred
thousand people in Medford,which is not small, but it's not
even close to big.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I think the Rogue Valley.
When you factor in thesurrounding areas and even
factor in Grants Pass, we'reprobably a little over 200,000
people.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, the county's got over 300.
And I only know that because Istudied it for this building.
So, yeah, I would just say thateveryone's super supportive of
this and, like you said, theentrepreneurial spirit is
definitely strong here right now.
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I love it.
Said, the entrepreneurialspirit is definitely strong here
right now.
Absolutely, I love it.
Well, back to you, mason.
Um, what are you?
Have you played the courseyou're going to for this
Providence Invitational?
I have not.
You have not.
No, what, no, what is theProvidence Invitational?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah.
So um Providence is a school,NAIA Division II school down
there that's hosting.
So most schools have their nametied into their invite, so to
speak.
So we have our conferenceevents, we have our fall event,
spring event, conferencechampionship.
So the main events we play inwill get you two things One
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player of the year, award points.
But the tournament we lookforward to, which would be our
US Open, our Masters, one of themajors, it's our conference
championship.
There's an automatic qualifierfor the winning team to go to
the national championship.
So in NAIA, in our level, we donot have a regional.
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We go straight to nationals ifyou win, which is pretty awesome
.
We're already playing acompetitive schedule with
upwards of 12 events a year.
Multiply that by three rounds,four rounds, you got a lot of
golf in 24 weeks.
So it's really good.
What does your preparation looklike?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Uh, so, uh, preparation is really important
to me.
Um, it's funny for me because Ithink I love practice more than
playing, which sounds weird,but I I just really enjoy the
process of it and, like I loveto work on things that I need to
work on and I like to know whatI need to work on, and whenever
I feel like I practice reallywell or just practice like what
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I need to work on things that Ineed to work on and I like to
know what I need to work on, andwhenever I feel like I practice
really well or just practicelike when I need to, I feel
really confident going into thetournament.
Good, what?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
what's your?
What's your routine from whenyou wake up in the morning on a
tournament day?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Uh, so I wake up, uh, shower, uh, I um, get a good
breakfast in, um, and then Ihave some butterflies, because I
care about it, obviously, and Ido my stretching.
Uh go putt first, uh, and thenI go hit some balls, uh, go chip
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a little and then go back tothe putting green and then uh,
yeah, then I go play.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So you prefer to focus on your own personal
systems?
Yes, where Kara prefers thecamaraderie and the talking and
the interaction and the love shefeels from her teammates.
Interesting, interesting, Ilove it.
Everybody is so unique in thatway.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, I think we need to get the rest of the team on
the podcast.
I just learned some new thingsabout our players as well.
So, no matter how long you'vebeen with them or conversations
you have, it's going to makecoaching a little easier just
from some of these.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, it's fascinating when I'm preparing
for something, I get really,really stressed out so I want to
do anything, but think about it.
Well, I am.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I am best if my mind is off of whatever I have to do
until the minute I have to do itwell, with mason just now
saying that he likes to practicemore than play, and that might
be the first time I've heard yousay that.
Tyler says it quite a bitactually.
I was very like the way tylersaid it the first time.
He's like, oh, I don't evencare, you know, know, about
playing, I just like to practice.
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And I'm like wait, wait, what?
Don't say that to your collegegolf coach?
What are you talking about?
But no, honestly, like theprocess side of it, and what
you're saying is going to bereally helpful when we go down
there, because if you have themindset of every day you're
trying to get a little bitbetter, it becomes practice in
itself, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And nobody succeeds without practice and nobody's
going to practice successfullyif they don't love it Right?
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, absolutely.
Um, so Mason is a grinder right.
He?
Uh, he was out here last night,right?
How late did you stay?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Probably till like 845 ish, 830 ish At night yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
That's pretty awesome .
Um, how do you feel about yourgame going down there?
We've talked about it, but whatdo you?
What do you think your biggeststrength is right now?
Going down into LA.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Uh, I'm feeling really good.
Uh, my irons are the bestthey've been and uh, I think the
reason why I've just beenpracticing so much is because
last fall I didn't have theseason I wanted.
Uh and uh, I just told myself,like no one's gonna feel sorry
for you, for you and I wouldsometimes feel sorry for myself
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because I played bad but but Ijust told myself you got to
crawl out of this hole and Ithink I put in a lot of hours, I
put in a lot of work and I feellike there's a good chance I
can play well.
But if I don't, it wouldn't bethe end of the world, because I
would just go back and practiceeven if I won.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I love that and you mentioned earlier on when we
when we first started talkingthat it's it feels good to be
wanted.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
It does, it feels good to be needed.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
And now your team needs you, yes, and they want
you, yes, and so that that'sgotta be a great driving force.
Yes, for sure To, to execute onthe course what you've been
practicing and working on sohard in the, in the sim,
definitely so we had kira.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Kira is just amazing in the gym.
She loves working out.
It's a big thing for her.
Mason, you've bulked up alittle bit this year already so
talk to us about what you'redoing in the gym and why you
took the initiative to work outa little harder in the off
season and you actually reachedout to coach matt, which was
like a coach's dream to hear.
You reached out to a coach toget some help in the gym.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah, I mean, I was pretty skinny last year, I was
around 152 pounds freshman yearand I probably only hit the ball
like 260, like carry and notfar.
And I just told myself, if Iwant to be a better player and a
good player, I'm going to haveto hit it further.
So I, um, I looked, I uhresearched some workouts and
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talked to my swing coach aboutit, and reached out to coach
Matt too, and, uh, I'm still uhworking, uh with some new
exercises, still experimentingwith them, but I'm definitely on
a good uh track to get a goodplan for them for sure.
What do you weigh now?
Uh, I weigh one 74.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, baby oh yeah, he's a he's, he's a beast.
It's funny Like you're five, 11.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Uh no, I'm six like one, six, two on a good day.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
We're sitting down.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I didn't.
I didn't get to sit next to you.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Okay, I mean he's not lying.
When I recruited him, I meanstring bean comes to mind.
honestly relative to his size,right, I'm a little guy so I can
say that, right, I'm 125 pounds, soaking wet, 5'7".
So yeah, I mean it's prettyincredible how he can move the
ball, even the 260, it wasefficient.
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So it's rolling out to 300, youknow, at that size.
So now when Mason wants to getafter it, it's out there and
he's one of the longest on theteam because he's so efficient
already and he knows how to makethe ball go somewhere.
It's good.
What are your?
Speaker 4 (43:54):
future ambitions oh for college.
After college, oh after college.
Sorry, I mean obviously I wouldlove to play on the tour.
I think there's not a reasonwhy I should try.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Not a reason why you shouldn't try.
Shouldn't try, sorry.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
I meant shouldn't try , sorry about that and maybe a
swing coach or maybe a collegecoach.
I just want to do somethingrelated to golf, but obviously I
would love to try to make thetour first and yeah, that'd be
awesome.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
And that was one of the biggest surprises to me when
my son started playing golf andI got to know Noah and I got to
know the coaches here.
Golf is so unique in theprofessional sports world where
you can make a career.
Anybody who wants to do it, whostarts at a young enough age
and is a proficient golfer canmake a career.
Anybody who wants to do it, whostarts at a young enough age
and is a proficient golfer canmake a career in the golf
industry, whether they play onthe tour or not.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Well, and on top of that, when I got into the
industry, you were going in onetrack.
You were an assistant pro.
You were making $0, workingfour jobs, working 50 hours a
week for a base salary and youwould have to find the time to
teach golf to try to make endsmeet.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Now they're equated to like a bartender who's making
minimum wage, but they maketheir money in tips because they
do a great job.
You're making minimum wage as apro in a golf shop or an
assistant pro, but you can makereally good money doing lessons
on the side for a side hustle.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Well, yeah, I mean, I would say that's a hundred
percent accurate.
And on top of that, now there'scareer paths.
So you know the golf academythat I have immediately you can
go into teaching and coaching ifyou want to, or the fitness
element, right, and then theyhave operations.
Now they have, um, you know,professional management, all
that.
So it's really nice to see thatthere's specialties going on in
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the golf industry.
Um, I think just being able togo into what you're passionate
about right away keepsprofessionals in the industry
and it allows them to fast trackand allows them to make you
know a living, as opposed to youknow you're at the bottom of
the totem pole for a long timeuntil you get into that head pro
job or director of instruction.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Absolutely Mason.
Who's your favorite tour player?
Who do you look up to the most?
Speaker 4 (46:08):
I really like Jordan Spieth a lot.
All right, it's my wife'sfavorite too.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
That's kind of scary.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I'm just saying I'd be having a conversation with
your wife.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
We were at the PGA show about five years ago and
Kimberly got so excited becausethere's this huge billboard of
Jordan Spieth and I had to takeher picture with it.
So, yeah, it's all right.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, you deleted that one.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
He's a good looking guy.
He's a good looking guy, itworks.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Hey, thank you both for coming on the show.
It's been such a pleasure.
Thank you for all of ourlisteners that called in with
their questions.
We'll be taking more of themnext week, and who's going to be
our guest next week?
Speaker 3 (46:47):
well, so jermaine couldn't be on this week, but he
said that he is looking forwardto next week.
Jermaine, curse everybody.
Owner of ever green golf clubup in seattle and tacoma looking
to be on the show next week.
Retired Seattle.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Seahawks wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, he is, and Super Bowl champion Amazing.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Looking forward to it , and we are going to get Kira's
win playoff win posted on oursocial media page.
Look us up on Facebook.
Mygolfsource and ourMyGolfSourcecom website will be
up in due time as well.
Stay tuned.
See you next week.
Welcome to the MyGolfSource podcast.
Welcome to this episode four ofthe MyGolfSource podcast.
I'm Darren.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm Noah and we are here yet again and I can't
believe it's been a month awhole month, oh my gosh and the
snow's starting to melt a littlebit a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Some parking lots still have it.
Your parking lot still hasquite a bit of snow yeah, but
that's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We have a roof over our head.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I drove by a few golf courses and they're got
construction crews out at theirfacilities fixing all the damage
from the snow and it's kind ofa crazy situation, man.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well, yeah, I mean, it's been what uh, fourth
highest snowfall in southernOregon history.
We've had roofs collapse um thelocal high school in fact,
north Medford High, yeah, it'sincredible and um also a local
distributor.
Their building collapsed and weused them actually for some of
our beer sales and talking toboth of those facilities.
(01:11):
Luckily no one was inside Wow,wow.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Crazy weather, crazy times, crazy golf stuff.
We're going to be talking witha couple SOU golf players that
are going to be headed down tothe Providence Invitational in
Los Angeles this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, we've got Kira and Mason coming on um both in
the top five consistently and,uh, kira is actually coming off
a win from the fall, so lookingforward to having them on later.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Excellent and and one of the big things we want to
focus on on this podcast is totruly be the number one golf
source in the nation where wetake people's questions, we
teach people tips and tricks,and we're going to be setting up
opportunities for people onsocial media to message us, to
record their voice, to send itinto the show, and we're going
(01:58):
to have professionals answeringquestions that you may have to
give you some tangible advice togo out and onto the golf course
and improve your game.
Our first question today isfrom Tyler.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I'm struggling.
My wedges shot onto the greenbut once it hits next to the pin
it rolls back.
So how do I get more spin onthat shot?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, hey, tyler, thanks for the question, I think
number one.
It reminds me of a story.
Arnold Palmer was in given aclinic, obviously quite a while
back, and one of the best youknow players of all time in his
era, and he was talking to thesepeople about something similar
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where, out of the gallery, theyasked you know how do I put more
backspin on the ball?
And, in short, arnold said youknow how many times you hit in
the center of the face?
And the guy couldn't answer thequestion and basically, until
you could hit it in the centerof the face, it didn't matter as
much, right?
So that's, that's ideal, um,when we're.
But you know, to answer yourquestion, there's a lot of
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variables.
Um, when we're talking aboutspin out of the rough, depending
on how thick it is, dependingon the lie, you're rarely going
to get spin anyway.
So you're really going to haveto pay attention to the loft and
the bounce of your wedge.
If you're chipping, um, youknow, the more loft you have is
what's going to create that spin, um, or backspin, and allow the
ball to actually check up onthe green.
(03:25):
But if you're not striking it,well, you're not going to have
any spin anyway right.
The other thing I think we getcaught up in is sometimes we hit
that wonderful golf shot thatdid check up and spin right.
It was solid center of the face, which is just what I was
saying, and so we think that'sthe norm and a lot of times we
need to learn how to manage ourmishits better.
I don't know any tour playersthat are naturally trying to put
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so much spin on the ball thatit just hits and stops.
Very often they have to havethe ideal lie firm turf
condition and a really tight liefor that to happen, and it just
takes years and years ofpractice to understand what it
feels like to allow your wristto release that club in the
right manner to allow the bounceto work properly.
So that's called low pointcontrol, essentially.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Where the face of your club literally pinches that
ball down into the turf right.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, exactly.
And so what happens is if youdon't understand the tool you're
using, right, it would be liketaking a claw nail, hammer right
.
You're like, okay, I'm going tohammer this nail, but with the
backside that I pulled a nailout with right.
Nobody would ever do that right?
No, it doesn't work.
But they were taught that.
They were taught to use theproper side of the hammer.
And so in the golf swing it'sthe same thing Like if you don't
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understand what a wedge's jobis and how to use it.
If you haven't been tested orfit for your bounce of the club,
you don't know and a lot ofthat has to do with turf
conditions that you're in softerclimates, you know tend to need
more bounce.
You go down to the arizonadesert.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Depending on the turf you're playing in and the time
in the year, you might want aneight degree bounce wedge is it
fair, is it a fair metric to saythat if you're hitting ball
first with a wedge and you takea divot after contact with the
ball, that you're going togenerate more spin than if you
were to just pick it right offthe turf and no divot?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So it depends, right.
Is the club face squared impactor not?
So if the club face is squaredimpact, yes, that's a thing, but
if someone's coming over thetop steep and across, they have
a shut face, no Right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And in the simulators when I watch the performance of
my ball.
If I'm at 8 000, 7 000 or 8 000backspin, my ball is going to
roll off the back of the green.
If I'm at 9 10 000, my ball isgoing to check up really fast.
If I'm in excess of 11 000backspin revolutions per minute
backspin, my ball is going tozip backwards yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So there's an ideal um launch window, essentially
for a wedge.
So when you're looking at moreof a full swing shot, you could
take your loft of your wedge,say 60 degrees.
You want to divide that by two.
That's your launch condition.
So 60 degrees of loft equatesto about 30 degrees of launch
angle and then you want as muchspin as you can have.
If If I'm a tour player, I want11,500.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
If you can, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
They're playing on some of the first, firmest,
fastest greens in the world.
And one of the biggest things,too, on spin is ball.
So not only can you create spinthrough a good hit right, and
that's where you want to go seeyour local tour or your local
PGA professional or professionalto get fit properly for your
wedges.
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And then maybe it's not a fit,maybe it is a lesson, maybe it
is something that you need to dodifferently, maybe it's club
choice in that area.
But golf ball between, like aTP5X and a TP5, that's 300 RPM,
wow.
So that right there in itselfhelps you.
If you're playing a two-pieceball, you know it could be three
or four times that much, or ifyou go buy the walmart special
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for you know 16 bucks, I thoughtI saw you there the other day
is that where you were shopping,I, it was costco oh, there you
go involved, yeah, yeah thelawsuit's over right.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, oh nice well, all right, that that's that's.
That's great advice and, like Isaid, just being able to get
the analytics behind what we'reseeing our ball do as amateurs
out on the course um makes a lotof sense.
So thank you for your question,tyler.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Next question is going to be from adam hey guys,
it's adam, I've got a questionfor you.
So I've been having to tee offwith my six iron, which is a
little bit pathetic, because I'meither slicing it really bad or
I'm snap hooking my driver, andI sure would love to use my
driver.
What suggestions do you have,or what's like the first step to
get that thing lined up?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Hey Adam, thanks for your question, and I'm pretty
sure this is Adam Rutledge.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think it is so shout out the infamous Adam
Rutledge from the RutledgeProperty Group.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well, first of all, shout out to Adam and thanks for
your question.
Pretty funny Quick story aboutAdam.
I've given Adam a few lessonsand first time I ever played
golf with Adam was at RogueValley Country Club and we're on
the first hole.
He's 150 yards out and he pullshis wedge pitching wedge and I
hadn't really seen him play upto that point and I'm like, hey,
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do you want more club?
Like what's going on with this?
And he decides to take a whaleat that pitching wedge and hits
it over the road.
He carried it 200 yards withthis pitching wedge it was the
longest wedge I've ever seen.
So anyway, was it?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
was it a good strike or did he played it it?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
was an incredible strike.
So I'm just like, well, we'vegot.
This was the assessment.
This was like, on course,assessing, checking this out, so
so obviously the guy's very,very gifted, it's got a lot of
speed, um you know it works outa lot works out a lot right.
Owner of a 45, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, with that being said, um,you know there's a lot in that
question, and the number onething is he's talking about
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directional miss Right.
He's like, and I'm snap hookingit.
Well, if you're snap hooking it, the direction of the club face
matters.
That club face is pointed, fora right handed golfer, to the
left and he's a right handedgolfer.
So obviously when the faceshuts down, it delofts Right,
right, it delofts the club faceand therefore it's hard to get
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it up in the air.
And so when you're dealing withthat, at the rate of speed that
you swing at you know that'shalf the battle.
You, you have to be aware ofthe club face.
So you know there's a couplethings there.
Number one his six iron does go240.
So on most golf courses he'splaying, that's probably plenty
of club.
And I even remember telling himon like the second hole, you
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might just need to hit seveniron.
You're pregnant, your goal isto out drive everybody I played
with adam.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Adam played on a tournament with me um the
david's chair tournament atstoner's golf course almost two
years ago and he brought out atwo iron I think, for his, for
his tee shots.
I'm like, dude, you can't playwith us if you're not hitting a
driver.
Where's your driver?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He's like Noah took it from me Of course I did, yeah
, and he probably played prettygood too, you know.
Going back to that question, Imean Adam made a lot of growth
with that driver too.
It was so funny because hewould hit snap hooks and we
finally got him to cut the balland then he started hitting it
better, um.
But.
But there is something uniqueabout it.
(10:11):
It's um in in lessons,particularly when you're
snapping it.
It's not just one thing.
Sometimes there's some otherthings mentally there that go on
with certain players too, wherethey don't want to see it.
Ben hogan was a great example ofthat.
He never wanted'd never wantedto see that snap hook, which is
why he changed his grip, whichwas the Hogan secret, and the
grip is definitely somethingthere.
But number one is going to beset up right.
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We got to make sure that theclub face is set up square to
the target first, and I wouldjust go into that for Adam too,
that the first thing I wouldwant him to do is actually set
up with the club out in front ofhim, making sure that the club
face is square to the target,almost like you're looking down
a ping pong paddle or a racketand see that face square and
then you're going to bow down tothe ball, essentially, and and
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you're going to address the clubto the target first, and then
take your stance, because whatyou're going to notice is the
club face is most likely left,and you're probably trying to
compensate for that left, maybewith your body.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So don't line up your feet and then drop the club in
front of the ball, behind theball.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Correct.
I always.
I always tell people too.
A lot of times when they see ashot they don't like, they tense
up even more and you know theytry to do something exact
opposite, like aim a differentdirection.
Well, sometimes when you aimthe to the right, let's say that
might create even more of asnap hook if the face is left,
depending on how you're swinging.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, I know, I have a problem with slicing the ball
and then I try to correct it andI overcorrect and I get into
the snap hook and that's a goodtip and I need to apply that too
where I drop the club facebehind the ball, line up the
club face and then adjust mystance to that.
That actually makes a couple ofweeks ago.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Um, you know, depending on the technology you
have and what it can do.
Um, you know, like sports boxAI, where we can see that 3d
person right, we know how theymove and so, being able to see
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how a player moves, we candecide if they need to take it.
Let's say, more inside right oror more straight back, more two
plane swing versus one planeswing there's so many different
concepts out there, but definingthat um is all relative to um
getting to know your student andthe relationship you're
building, so that way, you know,you could teach them from afar
if you have to Awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Adam, thanks for the question, buddy and um, our last
question for today is fromDerek.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Hey guys.
This is Derek Got a questionabout a driver.
I'm struggling with prettyconsistent toe high hits on
driver.
I'm not experiencing that issuewith my mini driver finding the
center of the face pretty oftenwith it, Wondering if I might
have equipment issue with theshaft.
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It's kind of my thoughts thatthe driver's shaft might not be
stiff enough for me.
It's tip 120-ish club speed,ball speed about 170.
Currently playing Callaway EpicLS with a Mitsubishi MMT 70,
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extra stiff on it.
On the Mini I've got aMitsubishi CK Pro White 72 or
stiff.
Any suggestions or help wouldbe greatly appreciated, Thank
you.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, thanks for your question, Derek.
Number one, I just did somesimple math on my calculator.
He's ball speeds at 170, clubhead speeds at 120, smash
factors at about 1.41, 1.42.
He's a beast.
I mean he is at a 1.5, right.
So hit location is obviouslyoff center, right.
And yeah, I mean he's playingequipment.
(13:57):
Everything he was saying shaftwise is white.
So essentially, when we getinto like a whiteboard shaft,
most of our manufacturers atthis point are color coded with
the shaft.
So you've got red, which istypically a little bit softer of
a shaft, maybe some more twistin there to help the golfer,
essentially.
And then you've got the blues,and then you've got the blacks,
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and then you've got the whites.
And then he's talking abouttour spec as well.
So if it's a tour shaft, right,that could mean it's even a 2X
or a 3X, I don't know withoutseeing it.
However, the one thing I'm goingto say is shaft is player
preference.
It has nothing to do with youknow hitting it higher or lower.
It has everything to do withhow you feel that club head.
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And if you can't feel the clubhead and know where it is in
space, you're gonna have areally hard time delivering it
at impact consistently?
Um, obviously, a couplequestions would be is is this
player already currently takinglessons?
What are they doing right?
And I think, um, for me, thenumber one thing here is that
he's saying he's hitting it highon the toe.
So what?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
that tells me, potentially without with his
driver, but not with his minidriver.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Right, exactly.
So a couple of things there.
Right, mini driver is going tobe much, much smaller CC head.
Most likely.
It's a higher lofted club aswell, potentially, and it could
be more like a three wood,essentially Right, and so the
length of the club could bedifferent too, depending on.
I'm not there, but what I wasgoing to say is high toe hits
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many times are because of a lossof posture, potentially, and
that club is moving.
So if he is swinging as hard ashe is, he might not be
stabilizing his lower body aswell as he should be right, so
he might not be in sequence, aswe call it, lower body leading.
And what can happen is if you'reswinging that hard and you
can't stabilize, you're going tocome out of posture almost
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standing up, or your hands aregoing to do something where
maybe they're raising up, andthat's going to bring the club
closer to you to a toe hit.
So what I would recommend inthis situation, just first and
foremost, is a hallway drill,super simple.
Grab two sticks, put them downabout half an inch wider than
the driver at the target you'retrying to hit at and see if your
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hit location gets better.
Number two you probably havetechnology, it sounds like to
know where hit location is.
But if you don't, you can get apiece of tape from your local
professional that has hitlocation on it.
You can take baby powder, putit on the face.
They have the foot spray youcan spray you know on there and
it'll show you exactly whereyou're hitting it on the face
too, if you go to the drivingrange versus a place like ours
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where we have the technologyright then and there.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And when you're generating that much clubhead
speed, aerodynamics have to comeinto play and a driver is by
nature going to have moreresistance than a mini driver
because it's bigger, right.
And so does it come into playwhere I've heard you talk about.
(16:57):
You know you're getting yourhands through the ball and
you're not giving the time forthe driver head to release at
the right time.
And so much of that has to dowith one it's bigger and heavier
to the shaft is longer.
Three it's lesser aerodynamicthan a fairway would yeah, I
mean it's.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's amazing right now the technology out there is
so aerodynamic anyway, I meanthey, I mean just unlimited
amounts of money in R and D,even like with air going over
the driver, and you know, theystart with CAD, they get into AI
, they do all this stuff withhead design not to go down that
rabbit hole right now, but youcan make a driver extremely
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light if you want to, dependingon swing, waiting it, um,
depending on shaft.
You know, when I first startedplaying golf, graphite was
coming out and they'd have tothrow out about 10 shafts for
every one good one, literally.
They were just so far off.
They'd have to do these thingscalled spine checking and
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checking, you know, thedeflection of the shaft to make
sure it was a good fit for you.
Now, like 99% of the shaftsthat come off the line are
almost exactly the same.
So, as far as the other there,they're very good.
The quality control now is somuch better than it used to be,
um, and so what I would say alsoin this is just, you know, when
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you get into somebody with thatclub head speed, that's awesome
, cause you can't just that clubhead speed.
That's awesome because youcan't just teach club head speed
.
You got to learn it.
You know it's a gift at somelevel as well.
But one degree open, closedface of that club head speed
when you are now carrying itpotentially 285 to 3, yeah to
310.
(18:42):
Yeah, now, all of a suddenyou're hitting it into the trees
right or left, because you'rehitting it into the trees right
or left, because you're hittingit so far.
So it's kind of like that happymedium of you know, the mini
driver might be the club for youa lot of the time because
you're hitting it well andyou're already hitting it 270.
And even on a tour course, ifyou're hitting it 270 down the
middle and your nine iron goes160, you know game on Right.
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So some of it could be strategyas well, um, but you know we're
working on that right now withthe SOU team.
We're going down to California,um, on Monday and the golf
course that we're playing downthere requires a certain shot
shape which is more of a cut orit's going to be a, you know,
cutter's paradise and there'sdesert golfers paradise.
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There we go, yeah, yeah,exactly, and the lefties are
going to want to hit draws.
But I think everyone on theteam going down right now is a
righty.
So it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Excellent, and, kara, you're from Southern California
, I am what, and it's excitingthat you're going to get to go
home to play golf.
Is this a course you'refamiliar with?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
It's not, but I am excited to play it.
I think I've heard of it, butI've never played it before.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So what brought you up to Southern Oregon to go to
school?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I was emailing a couple other colleges about
playing golf, like anywhere, andum, noah had emailed me and
reached out and asked to talkand I was like yeah, like why
not, let's do it.
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And then we set up a zoommeeting and then we talked and
then after that, after talkingwith him and him telling me
about his plan to build theprogram up and everything about
the new golf team, I was like Ican get on board with this, like
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I really like it, and oregonwas far enough away from home to
where I wanted it to be, but itwas still across some
independence and be an adultyeah, exactly, but I think it
was like close, express someindependence and be an adult.
Yeah, exactly, but I think itwas like the perfect place,
because it's as a little similarto the weather in California,
just a little bit colder.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I would say A little bit cooler, a little bit hotter
in the summer.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Yeah, but it's still great.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And we got some great golf courses around here to
play as well.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
What are you studying in school?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I am studying uh business administration
excellent.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
There's such a high demand for that.
Yeah, absolutely, um, so what?
What have you done over thelast couple of weeks to prepare
for this course?
You're coming off a win, right?
Yeah, um, how is it to come offof a win and that high you have
?
And I can only imagine there'snow more pressure on you that
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you don't want because thatexpectation, that bar has been
set.
How do you balance the rush andthe high and the excitement of
coming off a win with preparingfor success in your next
tournament?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It honestly just enhances my excitement even more
, and I always have highexpectations for myself anyway,
so it's really nothing new, and,win or not, I still played good
in Arizona, and it just made meeven more excited to continue
playing, especially now that thetournament that's coming up.
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It's somewhere that I amfamiliar with, and so I'm pretty
excited about that.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Is this a course, noah?
That is on the simulators.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
It's not, and so that preparation strategy is
definitely really important forus.
So that preparation strategy isdefinitely really important for
us.
I had mentioned previously thatwe'd used the simulators to get
ready for a tournament up in.
Washington and it definitelyhelped on all the dog legs that
were there and the elevation andyou know you could change
humidity and all that.
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So you know, for us we lookedat the golf course the other day
on a flyby and one of our otherplayers, our captain on the
men's, ricky he couldn't be heretoday because he's already down
there Right, so he went alittle early to see family but
he's played at a bunch.
It's 10 minutes from his house.
So it's unique that we havethree players on the team from
the LA or greater area and thatwe get to go home where they're
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going to have some familymembers out there rooting for
them too.
And the golf course is veryunique.
It's not ridiculously hilly butit requires some accuracy and
we know from what Ricky wastelling us cause we let him do
the walkthrough and tell, tellthem the team kind of.
These are some things to watchout for.
And at the end of the day itwas very easy to see that we
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just got to get off the tee.
Well, I mean, we have a groupof amazing ball strikers between
the men's and the women'sprograms already, so usually
it's about how fast we get it inthe hole on the green.
But I would just say in thisinstance you know, having a few
months off and now coming rightinto it and having snow and not
being on the course one timeprior to going, you know it's
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going to be really fun to getdown there play a practice round
.
I think everyone's excited toget on a golf course, probably
wearing shorts down there,depending on the weather.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And, uh, that excitement leads to some great
things, that's for sure, tell mewhat is your routine from the
morning you wake up on the dayof a tournament?
What do you?
What do you eat?
What do you think about, whatdo you do?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Um, I mean, I wake up with excitement just cause I'm
ready to play.
Um, I hydrate myself, drinkwater first and foremost, and
then I just get ready as this,this, as if I was going to any
other tournament that I'veplayed before best western
breakfast yeah okay the best,yeah, and then um talk with my
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teammates, see how they'refeeling.
Um, just talk with them aboutany concerns they may have.
Um, they ask me questions aboutwhat I'm going to focus on
during the day.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
So you find your comfort in camaraderie with the
team.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Where I know other people find their comfort in
superstitious, quirky, funny,odd things and wanting to be
alone.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
And that's so cool when you're on a college team to
have you know, to have thatcamaraderie to depend on yeah,
people, a lot of people thinkthat golf is an individual sport
, and it is for the most part,but when you're playing at a
collegiate level, it's more teamthan anything yeah, and you get
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, even if you playing well, youget that pressure that's put on
you too.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
If you know somebody has a really bad hole, it's like
, okay, well, here's myopportunity to help make up for
that as a team and do my partExactly.
Yeah, cool.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, I would just say just to echo that that team
side of it, you know our cultureis all about family at SOU.
I've stressed that since dayone.
And um, you know it's uniquethat we have Mason over here.
He's going to be interviewed ina few minutes.
And then we have um, kira andyou know, both freshmen coming
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into a program, um, you knowwhere they, you know, did have a
fairly decent team culture.
I felt like down where they wereat Um, and so to be able to
have um players already come in,knowing what it feels like and
then being able to take it andmake it personal for themselves,
because we are a new programand I remember recruiting Kira
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that was one of the biggestselling points for her is, you
know, she's a great golfer.
Obviously she could have went Done and for us to have her, you
know, we're fortunate, becauseI think the selling point in
itself was that, oh, I can.
I can create the culture that Iwant because it's a new program
, and then I can help grow it toa level of you know that, that
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I can help bring in otherplayers because I'm a good
player and I mean that's whatyou need.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
You need good players if you're going to recruit good
players golf is unique in thatit it, if you have a great coach
and you have great camaraderie,it doesn't matter whether
you're playing for d1 or d2 ord3, it doesn't matter because
you're not having, you know,professional organization
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recruiters out there looking atyou.
It's up to you.
So if you feel your skills canbecome more refined because of
great coaching in a smallerschool, you're going to be more
set up for success on theprofessional level after college
, right?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Well, and I just also think that from my experience
you know, whether it's workingwith a junior golfer with the
dream of playing on the PGA touror a professional golfer, um,
it's the work ethic they'reputting in on their own,
regardless of where they go.
I mean and I think that'sprobably some advice for some of
those junior golfers lookingit's like just go play, find a
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place to play, play all fouryears, play competitive golf,
you'll be better.
I played division three.
I could have went D1.
I had offers and opportunities.
I had walk-on opportunities allover, but it wasn't important.
What was important was I wantedto be able to go play and I did
for four years.
My ultimate plan was to go D3and then see how I did and go D1
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.
The second um after I got rankedin the country, I had a D1
interview with a school that Iwas looking into and they told
me I couldn't do the major Iwanted to do.
We traveled too much.
So immediately I shut down likewell, this isn't what it's
cracked up to be, and I spentthe remaining three years at
Pacific University Best decisionof my life, because I got
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everything I wanted, you know,and I didn't have to compete for
it at a big school.
It was awesome.
Carol, what is your?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
most memorable round of golf.
Where was it?
When was it?
How did you play?
Well, I've been in college, orno, your whole life, your whole
golf career.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Honestly, I would say Arizona's pretty up there,
arizona's pretty up there.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
How awesome was it in the playoff?
I just let's back up.
We rode in a car together inthe playoff.
Can you tell the story of howyou were feeling and then what
happened?
Just walk us through, you know,in a minute or two, this, this
playoff that you had, and then,obviously, the celebration at
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the end was incredible.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
So yeah, so um, after I finished the round, I was
very happy with my performancefor the tournament overall, and
then I was expecting to justride back to our house and leave
for the airport.
And then Noah comes up to meand he's's like you're about to
play in a playoff, and I'm likereally, I was like I wasn't
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expecting to be tied for first,but I wasn't really keeping
track of the score.
Anyway, I was just happy withthe way I played.
And then we rode back to the18th hole, which is where the
first hole of the playoff was,and I was like very nervous.
I had never been in a playoffbefore and I just didn't really
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know what to expect.
And the girl I was playingagainst was also very good, and
Noah was just right there thewhole time.
He was talking me through aboutanything that was on my mind
and then, when it was time totee off, I think we went with
probably the most perfect cluband shot that I could have had
(30:22):
at the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
What was that?
What did you tee off with?
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I teed off with a 5-wood and the girl teed off
with a driver, and if I had hitmy driver I probably wouldn't
have been in the fairway.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
And how was the other girl?
Speaker 6 (30:36):
She was fine uh, she was in the middle of the fairway
but I was to the left side andthe pin was to the right, so it
set me up with a perfect shot in, because I had a lot of room
for error and I hit a nicelittle cut right inside of the
hole and had like 20 feet uphilloh, that gives me goosebumps.
(31:00):
Yeah.
And then the girl's secondapproach shot.
She pulled it a little left andshe was a bit far from the pin.
And then we walk up to thegreen and I had a similar putt
previously during that round inthe same day and I was shaking
over the ball.
I was so nervous because I waslike I don't really want to play
(31:21):
another playoff hole.
I kind of just want to get thisover with.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well, plus, we had a flight to catch.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
That too.
Yeah, the pressure, my gosh,noah.
But I wasn't thinking aboutthat.
I was just thinking aboutmaking the putt and I was
telling Coach Noah that I wasjust so nervous I don't really
know what to do.
But he just talked me throughthe whole thing.
He said I'm just going to letyou feel what's right and do
(31:47):
what you need to do to make thisputt.
And he just stepped back.
Let me do what I did and youmade the birdie putt.
I made it yeah, awesome,awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I can just picture Noah standing over there on the
french tapping on the clock likecome on no, you know what, um,
as nervous as she says she was,she did not look nervous or act
nervous.
There was some nerves drivingup to the t and it was pretty,
pretty awesome as we talkedthrough it, because the look
changed after we talked throughit and you could tell she was
(32:20):
zoned in, ready to go and thefive wood was the best place you
could have ever hit, cause um,the girl hit it about 50 yards
past her five wood and Kira hitsit far, and this girl actually
probably hit it a little bitfarther than Kira does.
So you know, the fact is,sometimes when you get into
those playoff situations itturns to match, play Right, and
so the mindset shouldn't shift.
(32:42):
You got to take whatever youknow, whatever horse you wrote
in on, and I think that was likekind of the, the knowledge I
was trying to give to her.
It was like it's okay, justrelax, you just got into a
playoff, you're playing greatright now, go play golf, and so
I think that was a little bitcomforting.
And then, you know, movingforward, um, kira had the upper
hand because she got to playfirst, so hitting five would
(33:03):
when the girl had driver.
Now it's like, ok, I'll hit itclose and she did, and the girl
pulled her wedge 50 feet fromthe hole and then she hit it to
like six feet, so she didn'teven have a gimme yet.
So I would say that, looking atit from a coaching perspective,
I'm like man, you can be freedup on this putt and actually hit
it two or three feet by, andyou'll still have her putt first
.
And you know, I think for Kira,the second she hit it.
(33:26):
I recorded the whole thing, butthe celebration with your mom
and your sister was just goingto ask do you have this on video
?
I have it on video.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We might have to post it on the my golf source uh
Facebook page.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
okay with you, mm-hmm .
Yeah, excellent, yeah, we gotto do that tonight.
Sounds good, we'll get that upthere All right, and before we
move on to Mason, what's likeyour dream bucket list course
that you haven't played?
Augusta, augusta, yeah, yeah,the Untouchable.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, they have a tournament you can play in.
For that, that women's amateur,we might have to get you signed
up, oh yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, have you ever played golf overseas?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
That'd be fun too.
Yeah, All right, Mason Garrett.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It's been a pleasure meeting you.
This is my first time meetingyou and thanks for coming on the
show with us yeah, thank youfor having me all right.
All right, mason, thanks, um,thanks for coming in here and
joining us as well.
You're also from southerncalifornia.
You're also playing for sou.
What brought you up here tosouthern oregon?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
uh.
So I was, uh, emailing colleges, kind of like Kira, and there
were some schools that offeredme but there were others that
also didn't, and I had Noah, uh,actually, he emailed me and my
mom, uh, it was so funny.
My mom saw the email first,which was kind of bizarre, but
she's just like, uh, hey, uh,school um reached out to you,
(35:01):
southern Oregon.
I'm like, oh, really, and, uh,he wanted to get a zoom call
right away and I kind of justgot the impression from him that
like he wanted me and it feltreally nice to be wanted and he
was very, um, yeah, he was very,uh, nice about it and it was
awesome to give me thatopportunity.
And so we had the zoom meetingwent really well scheduled.
(35:23):
A visit went down to the visitand he seemed very confident in
getting me and, uh, and he didso it was awesome.
Good, well, welcome to southernoregon.
What, what are you studying?
I'm studying, uh, businessmanagement okay a lot of
business management people.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I think we're gonna open up a big big, big company.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
We're gonna franchise golf Garage and they're all
going to take one.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You know what.
You've lived in severallocations.
I've lived in several locationsand the one super unique thing
that I love about the RogueValley here in Southern Oregon
is if you are an entrepreneur,there is endless opportunity
there.
The population growth here hasbeen off the charts over the
last 10 years, and if you own abusiness and want to provide a
(36:06):
service, the community here isso hungry for it.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, I would agree.
I mean, the community is still,even though it's a hundred
thousand people in Medford,which is not small, but it's not
even close to big.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I think the Rogue Valley.
When you factor in thesurrounding areas and even
factor in Grants Pass, we'reprobably a little over 200,000
people.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, the county's got over 300.
And I only know that because Istudied it for this building.
So, yeah, I would just say thateveryone's super supportive of
this and, like you said, theentrepreneurial spirit is
definitely strong here right now.
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I love it.
Said, the entrepreneurialspirit is definitely strong here
right now.
Absolutely, I love it.
Well, back to you, mason.
Um, what are you?
Have you played the courseyou're going to for this
Providence Invitational?
I have not.
You have not.
No, what, no, what is theProvidence Invitational?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah.
So um Providence is a school,NAIA Division II school down
there that's hosting.
So most schools have their nametied into their invite, so to
speak.
So we have our conferenceevents, we have our fall event,
spring event, conferencechampionship.
So the main events we play inwill get you two things One
(37:22):
player of the year, award points.
But the tournament we lookforward to, which would be our
US Open, our Masters, one of themajors, it's our conference
championship.
There's an automatic qualifierfor the winning team to go to
the national championship.
So in NAIA, in our level, we donot have a regional.
(37:42):
We go straight to nationals ifyou win, which is pretty awesome
.
We're already playing acompetitive schedule with
upwards of 12 events a year.
Multiply that by three rounds,four rounds, you got a lot of
golf in 24 weeks.
So it's really good.
What does your preparation looklike?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Uh, so, uh, preparation is really important
to me.
Um, it's funny for me because Ithink I love practice more than
playing, which sounds weird,but I I just really enjoy the
process of it and, like I loveto work on things that I need to
work on and I like to know whatI need to work on, and whenever
I feel like I practice reallywell or just practice like what
(38:23):
I need to work on things that Ineed to work on and I like to
know what I need to work on, andwhenever I feel like I practice
really well or just practicelike when I need to, I feel
really confident going into thetournament.
Good, what?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
what's your?
What's your routine from whenyou wake up in the morning on a
tournament day?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Uh, so I wake up, uh, shower, uh, I um, get a good
breakfast in, um, and then Ihave some butterflies, because I
care about it, obviously, and Ido my stretching.
Uh go putt first, uh, and thenI go hit some balls, uh, go chip
(38:55):
a little and then go back tothe putting green and then uh,
yeah, then I go play.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So you prefer to focus on your own personal
systems?
Yes, where Kara prefers thecamaraderie and the talking and
the interaction and the love shefeels from her teammates.
Interesting, interesting, Ilove it.
Everybody is so unique in thatway.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah, I think we need to get the rest of the team on
the podcast.
I just learned some new thingsabout our players as well.
So, no matter how long you'vebeen with them or conversations
you have, it's going to makecoaching a little easier just
from some of these.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, it's fascinating when I'm preparing
for something, I get really,really stressed out so I want to
do anything, but think about it.
Well, I am.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I am best if my mind is off of whatever I have to do
until the minute I have to do itwell, with mason just now
saying that he likes to practicemore than play, and that might
be the first time I've heard yousay that.
Tyler says it quite a bitactually.
I was very like the way tylersaid it the first time.
He's like, oh, I don't evencare, you know, know, about
playing, I just like to practice.
(40:04):
And I'm like wait, wait, what?
Don't say that to your collegegolf coach?
What are you talking about?
But no, honestly, like theprocess side of it, and what
you're saying is going to bereally helpful when we go down
there, because if you have themindset of every day you're
trying to get a little bitbetter, it becomes practice in
itself, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And nobody succeeds without practice and nobody's
going to practice successfullyif they don't love it Right?
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, absolutely.
Um, so Mason is a grinder right.
He?
Uh, he was out here last night,right?
How late did you stay?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Probably till like 845 ish, 830 ish At night yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
That's pretty awesome .
Um, how do you feel about yourgame going down there?
We've talked about it, but whatdo you?
What do you think your biggeststrength is right now?
Going down into LA.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Uh, I'm feeling really good.
Uh, my irons are the bestthey've been and uh, I think the
reason why I've just beenpracticing so much is because
last fall I didn't have theseason I wanted.
Uh and uh, I just told myself,like no one's gonna feel sorry
for you, for you and I wouldsometimes feel sorry for myself
(41:19):
because I played bad but but Ijust told myself you got to
crawl out of this hole and Ithink I put in a lot of hours, I
put in a lot of work and I feellike there's a good chance I
can play well.
But if I don't, it wouldn't bethe end of the world, because I
would just go back and practiceeven if I won.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I love that and you mentioned earlier on when we
when we first started talkingthat it's it feels good to be
wanted.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
It does, it feels good to be needed.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
And now your team needs you, yes, and they want
you, yes, and so that that'sgotta be a great driving force.
Yes, for sure To, to execute onthe course what you've been
practicing and working on sohard in the, in the sim,
definitely so we had kira.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Kira is just amazing in the gym.
She loves working out.
It's a big thing for her.
Mason, you've bulked up alittle bit this year already so
talk to us about what you'redoing in the gym and why you
took the initiative to work outa little harder in the off
season and you actually reachedout to coach matt, which was
like a coach's dream to hear.
You reached out to a coach toget some help in the gym.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah, I mean, I was pretty skinny last year, I was
around 152 pounds freshman yearand I probably only hit the ball
like 260, like carry and notfar.
And I just told myself, if Iwant to be a better player and a
good player, I'm going to haveto hit it further.
So I, um, I looked, I uhresearched some workouts and
(42:49):
talked to my swing coach aboutit, and reached out to coach
Matt too, and, uh, I'm still uhworking, uh with some new
exercises, still experimentingwith them, but I'm definitely on
a good uh track to get a goodplan for them for sure.
What do you weigh now?
Uh, I weigh one 74.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, baby oh yeah, he's a he's, he's a beast.
It's funny Like you're five, 11.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Uh no, I'm six like one, six, two on a good day.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
We're sitting down.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I didn't.
I didn't get to sit next to you.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Okay, I mean he's not lying.
When I recruited him, I meanstring bean comes to mind.
honestly relative to his size,right, I'm a little guy so I can
say that, right, I'm 125 pounds, soaking wet, 5'7".
So yeah, I mean it's prettyincredible how he can move the
ball, even the 260, it wasefficient.
(43:40):
So it's rolling out to 300, youknow, at that size.
So now when Mason wants to getafter it, it's out there and
he's one of the longest on theteam because he's so efficient
already and he knows how to makethe ball go somewhere.
It's good.
What are your?
Speaker 4 (43:54):
future ambitions oh for college.
After college, oh after college.
Sorry, I mean obviously I wouldlove to play on the tour.
I think there's not a reasonwhy I should try.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Not a reason why you shouldn't try.
Shouldn't try, sorry.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
I meant shouldn't try , sorry about that and maybe a
swing coach or maybe a collegecoach.
I just want to do somethingrelated to golf, but obviously I
would love to try to make thetour first and yeah, that'd be
awesome.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
And that was one of the biggest surprises to me when
my son started playing golf andI got to know Noah and I got to
know the coaches here.
Golf is so unique in theprofessional sports world where
you can make a career.
Anybody who wants to do it, whostarts at a young enough age
and is a proficient golfer canmake a career.
Anybody who wants to do it, whostarts at a young enough age
and is a proficient golfer canmake a career in the golf
industry, whether they play onthe tour or not.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Well, and on top of that, when I got into the
industry, you were going in onetrack.
You were an assistant pro.
You were making $0, workingfour jobs, working 50 hours a
week for a base salary and youwould have to find the time to
teach golf to try to make endsmeet.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Now they're equated to like a bartender who's making
minimum wage, but they maketheir money in tips because they
do a great job.
You're making minimum wage as apro in a golf shop or an
assistant pro, but you can makereally good money doing lessons
on the side for a side hustle.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Well, yeah, I mean, I would say that's a hundred
percent accurate.
And on top of that, now there'scareer paths.
So you know the golf academythat I have immediately you can
go into teaching and coaching ifyou want to, or the fitness
element, right, and then theyhave operations.
Now they have, um, you know,professional management, all
that.
So it's really nice to see thatthere's specialties going on in
(45:46):
the golf industry.
Um, I think just being able togo into what you're passionate
about right away keepsprofessionals in the industry
and it allows them to fast trackand allows them to make you
know a living, as opposed to youknow you're at the bottom of
the totem pole for a long timeuntil you get into that head pro
job or director of instruction.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Absolutely Mason.
Who's your favorite tour player?
Who do you look up to the most?
Speaker 4 (46:08):
I really like Jordan Spieth a lot.
All right, it's my wife'sfavorite too.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
That's kind of scary.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I'm just saying I'd be having a conversation with
your wife.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
We were at the PGA show about five years ago and
Kimberly got so excited becausethere's this huge billboard of
Jordan Spieth and I had to takeher picture with it.
So, yeah, it's all right.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, you deleted that one.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
He's a good looking guy.
He's a good looking guy, itworks.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Hey, thank you both for coming on the show.
It's been such a pleasure.
Thank you for all of ourlisteners that called in with
their questions.
We'll be taking more of themnext week, and who's going to be
our guest next week?
Speaker 3 (46:47):
well, so jermaine couldn't be on this week, but he
said that he is looking forwardto next week.
Jermaine, curse everybody.
Owner of ever green golf clubup in seattle and tacoma looking
to be on the show next week.
Retired Seattle.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Seahawks wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, he is, and Super Bowl champion Amazing.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Looking forward to it , and we are going to get Kira's
win playoff win posted on oursocial media page.
Look us up on Facebook.
Mygolfsource and ourMyGolfSourcecom website will be
up in due time as well.
Stay tuned.
See you next week.
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