February 6, 2025 • 26 mins
The episode discusses junior golf, emphasizing the importance of community and resilience in maintaining youth engagement in the sport. With insights from Jessica Young on US Kids Local Tours, we explore accessible programs and the unique challenges faced by young golf enthusiasts.
• Discussion on current weather impacts on golf courses
• Bear Creek Golf Course and other local facilities coping with challenges
• Highlights from the TGL and Waste Management Phoenix Open
• Importance of growing junior golf programs in tough conditions
• Jessica Young's role in the US Kids Local Tour
• Barriers to entry for youth participation in golf
• Emphasizing the need for multi-sport participation
• Focus on creating an inviting atmosphere for young golfers
• Preparing for next week's guest and continuing discussions on golf in various formats
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to the MyGolfSource podcast.
Welcome to episode three of theMyGolfSource podcast.
I'm Darren and I'm Noah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What's going on in your world, man?
I'm looking outside this windowright now and it is coming down
.
Dumping Snowed Tons of it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The weatherman said it was over yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I had to put my truck into four-wheel drive this
morning.
My wife thinks she's going tomake it up with her van.
I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
No, no, no, don't think so.
My wife has a two wheel driveon her car and she's been home
for four days.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh yeah, we had to.
We live up on a hillside andwe're coming down and I tried
going up and I slipped all overthe place, put it into four high
, got up there.
I was like, Kimberly, you'regoing to be parking down at the
country club parking lot.
So luckily the gates were open.
We left it there for two daysstraight while we got dumped on.
Oh no, well, and it's crazy too,because golf industry here, um,
(01:08):
not a lot of covered ranges,not a lot of covered areas.
Obviously, golf garage is a oneof a kind and we did stay up
and open 24, seven, but, uh,some of the other courses were
not so lucky.
Yeah, so um, I got a picturesent to me and bear creek golf
course.
Unfortunately, um, they havetop tracer technology.
(01:31):
It's the only other coveredrange in town and their netting
and their pole system went down.
It's oh man, it's awful they're.
They're a great growth of thegame facility.
I grew up playing golf there,as did ryan kakula, um little
nine hole course been just anawesome.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Tons of improvements over the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh man, it's so good.
It's like a great place tolearn how to play the game, and
then also it's a tough par-3course to boot.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And then another nine-hole course.
I saw their net in theirdriving practice facility.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, just driving down I-5, I noticed over there
at Quail Point that theirnetting went down and I mean
theirs is just more of a hitinto a net, but still I mean
that's just a snow load.
And then driving by CentennialI noticed that like their tent
had collapsed in it I haven'thad a chance to talk to their
staff yet, but just their eventtent, so hopefully everybody was
okay and nobody's inside.
But it's the real deal hereright now.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I hope no, like expensive equipment got damaged.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, I mean seriously.
I don't know what they putinside those things.
Obviously I don't think it wastheir cart barn, so hopefully it
was all good.
You can't golf in this.
No, you can't.
You know, we're in ourconference room right now and I
keep hearing drivers beingbanged over in there.
It's pretty awesome.
If you look outside,everybody's booked right now.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It is Everybody's booked right now.
It is.
It's been busy every day thatI've been here recently with all
the snow and for the first timeever I had heard about it, but
I sat down and watched the TGLlast night.
Yes, yes, what do you think?
You know?
At first all the clips I hadseen on social media about it, I
thought it was kind of anexhibition type you know, golf
show, kind of like theGlobetrotters and basketball.
But it's not.
It's a legit game.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh yeah, these guys are straight competitive too,
aren't they?
They are.
I mean they're talking trashthe whole time while they're in
there.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
They're talking trash .
We've got PGA Tour players outthere, you know, showing what
they can do, and it's in thatkind of arena, an arena type
atmosphere which I think issuper cool where when you go out
to watch a PGA tour event, it'slike you're part of the gallery
that walks along with them, oryou're stuck in one location and
(03:35):
all you get to watch is onehole.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, and on top of that, you've got the greatest
show on grass this week with theWaste Management Phoenix Open
Right, open, right.
I mean, have you been to thatone?
I have not, but you you have.
We used to live down there.
So, um, there was a golfacademy that I used to be one of
the directors of their juniordevelopment and we would go
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there and the kids couldactually caddy in the practice
rounds.
It was the coolest thing andthey would carry a tour player's
bag and then the tour playerwould let them chip and putt
with them around the green.
So, um, everyone knows about it, primarily because the party
right.
So hole 16, I mean, it'sincredible.
Par three, uh, should have seenwhat it looked like 20 years
ago, right, and now it's afootball stadium full on, like
(04:20):
triple decker.
Uh, it's just the party scene.
So, uh, my wife and I were therelittle story here, uh and our
oldest daughter was born inScottsdale hospital, so not too
far from TPC Scottsdale, and, um, it was the first year she was
there and I was so excited totake her out and let her see
(04:41):
Tiger woods.
He was coming off the chippingyips.
And I ran because I saw himshort side himself on a par
three.
I'm like, oh man, we get to seehim chip, let's see how he does
.
And I mean, the guy hits a flopto two feet.
He had it all, I mean.
And then you know it's practiceround.
So we're, we're watching a fewmore shots and all of a sudden,
uh, uh, there is this is alittle personal, but there's a
(05:03):
smell.
So, but there's a smell.
What?
Yeah, there's a smell.
I'm like looking at my daughter, I'm like, no, you didn't Not
right, and we're watching TigerWoods right now.
So we're asking everybody likewhere's the nearest changing
station?
And they don't have them.
We're like, well, isn't thislike a potty?
Yeah, right, nope, nope, nope.
So we go under hole 16 andwe'll just say that there was a
(05:25):
little area there that wechristened.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
People sitting up in the stands are looking at their
neighbor like what did you do?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, and you know.
You know this might be aperfect time to talk about.
You know where we're going withthis podcast and with our
junior program down in Arizona.
We're going to be talking a lotabout junior golf today.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right, and no better person to join us than
Jessica Young.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Hey guys, How's it going?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Good Welcome.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, jessica.
So you spent a lot of time withthe US Kids Local Tour that was
started last year and you'vebeen putting a lot of those
events together.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You want to tell us a little bit about that?
Yeah, so the US Kids Tourevents have been awesome.
They've been super fun to seekids from six years old to 18
playing out there playing teesthat fit their game, and it's
just really exciting because USKids is something that I think
anybody could play in.
It doesn't really matter whatyour level is.
They make it fun.
So I really enjoyed theexperience.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I was shocked at the level of competitiveness.
In this I mean my son's 13.
He's playing in the 13-14 agegroup and these guys are hitting
further back than the men'stees on those courses Definitely
, and they were prettycompetitive this year.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, and don't you think that's kind of been one of
the struggles too, is beingable to find golf courses long
enough.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh, that's been a huge struggle because I've been
wanting to like incorporate thenine hole courses, the local
nine hole courses, but that'stough to get them to play all
the way back there.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, absolutely Well , you've done a great job with
it.
Obviously, it's just one of themany elements that you do to
grow the game of golf and thetournament side of it's fun.
And can you talk about, likethe US Kids Local Tour so far
that you've seen?
Because you know, from myperspective it's just another
segue and it's not necessarilyabout the competition so much
because they allow caddies.
(07:22):
So tell us a little bit about,from your perspective, what
you've seen.
And maybe growing up, becauseyou're a great junior golfer,
you played D1 golf, you were atOregon State and obviously down
in Texas.
But what do you like about thisversus maybe the model of, even
not to say, oregon GolfAssociation isn't great because
it's phenomenal, but it's alittle different, right?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, I like this because it's phenomenal, but
it's a little different, right.
Yeah, um, I like this becauseit is something that you know, I
feel like really separates,like the age of the golfers and
what different yardages theyplay at Um, and like when you're
in OGA.
Like you know, the first coupleof times that I played in a
junior golf tournament, it wasreally long for me, I was
struggling, but I'd also beenplaying golf for a year, right,
(08:05):
and I feel like kids can comefrom like not playing at all or
hardly playing in any event, andI had some girls had been
playing golf for two weeks andtheir first tournament was a US
kids event and they loved it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's awesome.
What do you think they lovedabout it?
Was it just like you running it?
Cause I mean, it's hard not tolove it when you're there.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
No, I felt like it was because it is such an
inviting atmosphere and it'sthere's not pressure.
It's just like you can go outand learn the game of golf and
you don't have parents that aregetting on the kids and it's
like the kids have a chance tolearn.
We really try to not, you know,we harp on the rules to show
(08:48):
them the rules, but we don't sitthere and make it so that it's
all about the rules, like theyhave time to learn.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It teaches integrity.
Yeah, and it's.
I mean, I may be kind ofoverstepping a little bit by
saying this, but when I goonline to book a US kids tour
for my son, there are hundredsof chapters across the US.
Hundreds, yeah, and theNationals is held Pinehurst,
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pinehurst.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah Well and that's the thing I was going to segue
into is that it's a local tourthat gives you the opportunity
to play at a global level, Right?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, cause it's it.
It is all over the world.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, and I grew up in a small town on the coast and
I was driving at the minimumfour hours to play in a
tournament.
It was more like six to eightjust to play in a tournament and
you know the the then moneycomes into it, you know, in time
, and getting someone to takeyou up there when you can't
drive, there's all sorts ofthings.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So talk about barriers to entry.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So almost anywhere in the US has a local tour.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, at this point all of the states, I believe,
have something, and Oregonactually has three tours now.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So yeah, I mean Willamette, the southwest Oregon
and the central Oregon and theSouthwest Oregon and the Central
Oregon and the Central Oregon.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I guess two years ago it split off and it was just
the Southwest Oregon and, likethe Willamette Valley, portland
chapter, and then they addedthis Central Oregon, which is
phenomenal, I think at thebeginning it's tough, though,
right, jessica?
Because we're trying to buildthis tour into something bigger
and better, and so we're able topull from Northern California
as well, and I don't think toomany people know that because it
says Southwest Oregon.
(10:29):
So you can actually cross overstate lines when you're playing
in these, and I think that'sanother unique thing.
So there's definitely some veryblack and white structure to it
, but there's also a lot ofopportunity to run it the way
you want to, and I think that'sreally nice.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You can sign your kids up for multiple tours too.
I know people have signed upfor the Southwest Oregon and the
Willamette.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, jessica, you were talking about that a little
bit, um, you've been on site atevery event, obviously, um, and
that people were starting tocome down a little bit more from
the potential of even earningpoints just because our tour
wasn't as busy yet.
But I think that's about tochange with some of the junior
golf development that's comingup, and you are our junior golf
(11:12):
director at West Coast GolfAcademy.
You've been teaching golf since2019 at this point, and you are
a, I guess, and at least werethe only female PGA coach in
Southern Oregon for about fiveyears.
So I mean, that's a hugeopportunity in itself, and so
(11:32):
tell us a little bit about you.
Know your role as a junior golfdirector and like the programs
you enjoy teaching the most.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, so I, before I was a golf instructor, I was a
teacher and that's where I foundmy love for kids.
So that's kind of how teachingjunior golf really started
because I love golf, played golfin college and then went to
college to be a teacher.
So you kind of merge themtogether and get something
that's really fun to do everyday.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
What age do you find kids starting to get involved in
golf?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The youngest student that I'm teaching right now is
three.
The youngest I've ever taughtwas two.
How long were those lessons?
They were the two-year-oldswere an hour, but that was
because we were focusing on alsolearning sign language, because
I have my master's degree inspecial ed specializing in
autism and this little boy wasautistic, so we were kind of
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doing a couple of things at onetime.
But right now my youngeststudent is three.
She started because she waswatching her brother in my
little link stars class and thenwanted to join and that's
honestly three to five year old.
I love teaching everybody, butthree to five year olds are a
whole nother ball game out thereand it's pretty fun to watch
them swing a club and you know,you see that pure joy when they
(12:43):
finally get it do you ever comeacross a kid who comes in who's
never touched a golf club beforethey pick it up?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
and they, just they have the effect yeah, and it's
cool.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's super, super cool to watch.
I think, watching kids swing agolf club, adults can learn a
lot because they don't have fearthat is true yeah, well and if
you've ever watched Jessicateach, she puts the fun in
fundamentals, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Right, and on top of that, like this program and when
we've sat down and looked atplayer development as a whole, I
mean there's a passion that youhave and it's so far beyond
what I've seen with theseyounger kids, not just girls,
because you're, because you're,you know, you're a girl coach,
(13:25):
you know and you focused on that, but you're definitely
spreading your wings and growingthe game at a much bigger level
than you probably even imagined.
And I mean the little linkstars class is turning into a
secondary class and then even athird because you have kind of
your private class, and thenthese other ones, because
everyone wants it now, becausethey're realizing how awesome it
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is and it's not justbabysitting, like these kids are
actually learning how to playgolf but also having fun.
They don't even know thatthey're learning to play golf
half the time.
They're just like I play golf,yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Awesome yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So tell us a little bit about what you're most
excited for moving into thisseason, Cause we've had a lot of
conversation about PGA juniorleague, now LPGA girls golf
camps, Like I mean you name itright and we're going to try to
move, move the needle.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I'm really excited because I, with our
junior player developmentcourses that we have coming out
this year, I'm excited because Ifeel like there is truly a
class for every kid.
Yes, and it doesn't, it's justI'm excited for it.
I have several LPGA girls golfclasses.
We have lots of different PGAjunior league classes to offer
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for all different ages,facilities, all sorts of things,
and being a kid that didn'thave golf things like that
around, I mean it's prettyexciting.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So let's talk about specialization in sport.
Obviously, as a director ofjunior golf, like you're
noticing, probably, that thesekids are trying to play golf
more because parents are gettinginvolved, saying I want my kid
to golf instead of playbasketball and football and run
and jump and just whatever theyneed to do, and so you know we
have somebody here that helpswith that.
(15:04):
But like what, what is it fromyour perspective that you're
noticing?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
One.
You have to understand thatyou're a little bit at a loss of
control.
I would like kids to play threesports if I could.
If I could have them play threesports or more.
I would totally do it, um, butthere's not, I can't make them
right, and so that's what'sreally cool about our facility
we have someone that focuses onyour movements and working out
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and doing all sorts of thingsthat your body needs that you
would get from other sports.
Then we also have differentclasses that you can take, so
you don't have to just focus onone thing.
It's we make it so that it'sall sorts of all different games
.
Right, you're working on yourfull swing, but then you can
also go out and play and we'rekind of breaking it up.
(15:50):
We have fitness courses, soit's like we really could kind
of make shift our own threesport thing here.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, and we do a little bit, and I think, at the
end of the day, I haven't sharedthis with you yet, but I'm
still looking for a place forthat basketball hoop.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think that would be amazing and every ball in the
book needs to be at Golf Garage,which is what our closet's
really for to have that football, the basketball, go dribble, go
do this, you know, play alittle bit, but still like being
able to throw something.
And those fine motor skillsright, obviously, your degree in
childhood development, you know, you're.
I mean, I remember the firsttime we went to a school and
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there was these little girls andthey were probably four or five
and instead of just focusing on, hey, we're going to learn
posture and we're going to dothese things today, you
literally threw the ball backand forth and said, hey, let's
go get the green ball, let's getthe red ball.
And I mean you were liketeaching them really important
things above and beyond golf.
And then at the end you're like, hey, we're golfers now and
here's a ball marker and, andthen they come back.
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It was like it was really cool,that gift that you have to be
able to share with the youth.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And, as as a parent, there's that humbling, yet you
know prideful moment you havewhen your son's been golfing for
a few years.
You take him out to the courseand he beats you for the first
time.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yes, tell me this story now.
Why did I not hear?
Did I hear about this?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't know.
I think we were playing StoneRidge and I shot an 88 and Toby
shot an 82.
Not only did he beat me, hedestroyed me on a day that I
thought I played well.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Wow, wow.
I guess I'm going to have to goget him a trophy.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I didn't have the excuse of oh, I was just having
a bad day because I played well.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
We need that.
I beat my dad trophy.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I know Right We'll get him a shirt that he has to
wear on father's day, and I was.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I was beating him solidly and like I on the front
nine and he came back to justclean my clock in the back nine.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Good deal.
Well, that's got to be a goodfeeling, in a way like that your
son can do that.
Now, his goal is never to letyou win, probably.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, and now his goal is to never let me go play
another game of golf without him.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I love that.
Jessica, you coached collegegolf and that's when we started
meeting.
You were the assistant coach,um, and I would love to hear a
little bit of your take, um.
I know you're not currentlycoaching it, but you know some
advice for our viewers, um, onwhat it really does take to play
(18:17):
division one golf, and then, ontop of that side, question what
it takes while you're in schoolto make the traveling team,
because you weren't only playingDivision I golf, you were
playing in every tournament.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah.
So my favorite thing to do isjust kind of run through a day
and you know we'd wake up, we'dhave weights at six, weights
would go until about 7, 730, andthen classes would start and
you'd have classes from eight tonoon until about 7, 730, and
then classes would start andyou'd have classes from 8 to
noon.
And our furthest golf coursethat we practiced at was about
an hour and 15 minutes away.
Our closest one was about 30minutes away, so at that point
(18:51):
in time practice would start at2.
So from noon to 2, you had toget there right, hopefully, eat
lunch, get there and you had tobe ready.
And I remember the very firsttime we weren't ready at 2 pm,
which meant shoes on, bags out,you're on the putting ring.
Putting Coach met us at 530 thenext morning at the track and
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let me tell you it wasn't fun.
So you had practice until aboutsix and then you had to go to
study hall as soon as you gotdone with practice and you'd be
at study hall until 9 pm andthen you'd go home and you'd
finish whatever homework youdidn't get done, have dinner, go
to bed and do it all over again.
Uh and that was just a normalday, professor, for keeping you
(19:35):
late yeah so, but then thetravel was a whole nother thing
because I mean, you were, had, Ihad girls on my team that would
practice while, or they wouldlike study their notes.
They had them on their clickgear and the little hubby thing
and they would be studying theirnotes during our practice round
because they would have a bigtest they had to take when we
got back, um, and it was coached, gave me tests on the airplane,
(19:59):
uh, all sorts of things You'venever stopped.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So that differs a lot than what a lot of coaches will
teach you at the higher levelabout getting mentally prepared
and having your head in the game, not elsewhere, right?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Oh yeah, coach didn't really like that they studied.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, no no, from my experience as well, it's
a different ball game once youget to the level, and I would
just say that you hit the nailon the head, jessica.
I still remember taking a testat a basketball camp that we
were staying at beforeconference championships and it
is so difficult to compete.
(20:35):
Well, when you're thinkingabout, I have to pass this test
to get like an A in the class,otherwise I could fail it
because they're weighted so high.
So it's funny.
When you say all that stuff,I'm like, hmm, would I have
wanted to be a division onegolfer if I would have known all
that, or would it havemotivated me?
But, like for you, yourpersonality trait, you're like
that's cool, bring it on, gameon, I'm gonna be.
(20:56):
You know, I'm gonna go rockthis and I'm gonna go win golf
tournaments, so it's awesome.
So advice, wise, um, for theyounger aspiring player right,
they always think about well, Iwant to be on tour, and then
they skip the step of what it'sreally like to play in college,
and it does give you a sense oftravel and the time commitments,
but it's not just about golf.
(21:16):
So so what do you think wouldbe a little tidbit that you'd
like to give to those coming up.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I mean, my biggest thing is one, before you make
that decision if it's somethingyou want to do, uh it's, do you
really love it?
You know, I had a moment intime where I wasn't necessarily
playing for me and it made itreally tough.
Um, let me tell you, when Istarted playing for me, it was a
lot better, but it is one ofthose things that it's you have
(21:44):
to want it, you have to want tobe exhausted, you have to want
to work your tail off, becauseeverybody there wants the same
thing that you want and theydon't care.
They're going to get there,they're going to be better than
you.
So it's something where youknow you have to want to devote
your life to golf and in orderto take it to that next level.
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Otherwise it's not enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Two, very deep and personal questions.
Are you ready?
Yeah, what's your favorite golfcourse you've ever played?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
That's so tough.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, I know where you're about to go play.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, yeah, and I played that one.
Where's that?
Pebble Beach in March.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Chee Next year.
You guys are taking me there.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, you got to win the drawing, like Jessica did.
Okay, taylormade's taking herdown, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Game on.
I'm really excited.
I've been trying to play PebbleBeach on the sim at least once
a week to get ready for it.
But honestly, Bend Country Clubis my favorite because that's
where I shot my lowest score andI felt like I tore that golf
course up, especially after thefirst day I played it, when I
five putted that par three.
That's three tiers.
I can't remember what number itis, but that one was tough.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
What was that score again when I five putted?
No, yeah, your lowest scorethere.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Oh, I was like five put it was a 74 um.
No, I shot 68 and it was on thesecond 18 holes of the
championship of the oregonamateur she can ball, wow yeah
all right.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Last question what's your favorite food?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
tacos, taco, tuesday.
There it is, come on.
Well, darren, we have.
I mean, this junior golf thingis phenomenal.
First, of all, it is Absolutelyand what Jessica's bringing to
the table is crazy.
She's actually about to startteaching a class, she's got her
LPGA class and then she's gotsome lessons the rest of the
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afternoon, because Golf Garageallows you to do that 24-7.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So we have another guest coming up this next, uh,
next week.
Yeah, as a matter of fact, uh,jermaine curse, who was the wide
receiving.
Well, he, he basically got theSeahawks with the game winning
catch to the super bowl and hissuper bowl winning wide receiver
, and he also owns an indoorgolf facility In fact, two up in
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Seattle, tacoma area and he's aSuper Bowl winning wide
receiver and he also owns anindoor golf facility in fact,
two up in Seattle, Tacoma areaand he's going to be on with us
next week.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Excellent, excellent.
While we're on the topic ofindoor golf, getting back to the
TGL, how has that and how is itdo you anticipate going to
affect the indoor golf industry?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, listen, I do not have real grass as my mats.
That's number one.
I will never do that either, soplease don't ask for it.
I don't have a farm out back orreal sand indoors.
Yeah, you know what.
You know what Jermaine does,though.
He's got sand indoors.
I'm curious to see how messy itgets, because every place I've
been to, it's an awesome time tohave an indoor facility.
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I said this once before.
There's more rounds of golfbeing played indoors now than
outdoors and it's showing notjust because of weather but it's
because of time.
So if you can play Pebble Beach, like Jessica has done every
week, and you don't have to pay$600 to do it, or if it's that
once in a lifetime trip to do it, why not prepare to play it?
So you know how the collegeteam SOU that I coach, we
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prepared just like that for atournament up in Washington.
Without the Sims we probablywould have finished sixth or
seventh.
We finished third because theyknew what the dogleg carry
distances were and they knew theuphill slopes.
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And they knew where the trees were in the bunkers
and everything is light art.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's exactly what it is.
We actually have the localcountry club now on ours.
Rogue Valley country club isnow on GS pro software, which is
one of them that we use here atgolf garage.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Very cool.
Yes, sir, I'm excited.
Thank you, jessica, for joiningus.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Thank you guys for having me.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Jessica, and next week Jermaine cares All right.
Thanks for joining us onepisode three of the my Golf
Shorts podcast.
We'll see you next week.
Welcome to the MyGolfSource podcast.
Welcome to episode three of theMyGolfSource podcast.
I'm Darren and I'm Noah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What's going on in your world, man?
I'm looking outside this windowright now and it is coming down
.
Dumping Snowed Tons of it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The weatherman said it was over yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I had to put my truck into four-wheel drive this
morning.
My wife thinks she's going tomake it up with her van.
I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
No, no, no, don't think so.
My wife has a two wheel driveon her car and she's been home
for four days.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh yeah, we had to.
We live up on a hillside andwe're coming down and I tried
going up and I slipped all overthe place, put it into four high
, got up there.
I was like, Kimberly, you'regoing to be parking down at the
country club parking lot.
So luckily the gates were open.
We left it there for two daysstraight while we got dumped on.
Oh no, well, and it's crazy too,because golf industry here, um,
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not a lot of covered ranges,not a lot of covered areas.
Obviously, golf garage is a oneof a kind and we did stay up
and open 24, seven, but, uh,some of the other courses were
not so lucky.
Yeah, so um, I got a picturesent to me and bear creek golf
course.
Unfortunately, um, they havetop tracer technology.
(01:31):
It's the only other coveredrange in town and their netting
and their pole system went down.
It's oh man, it's awful they're.
They're a great growth of thegame facility.
I grew up playing golf there,as did ryan kakula, um little
nine hole course been just anawesome.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Tons of improvements over the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh man, it's so good.
It's like a great place tolearn how to play the game, and
then also it's a tough par-3course to boot.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And then another nine-hole course.
I saw their net in theirdriving practice facility.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, just driving down I-5, I noticed over there
at Quail Point that theirnetting went down and I mean
theirs is just more of a hitinto a net, but still I mean
that's just a snow load.
And then driving by CentennialI noticed that like their tent
had collapsed in it I haven'thad a chance to talk to their
staff yet, but just their eventtent, so hopefully everybody was
okay and nobody's inside.
But it's the real deal hereright now.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I hope no, like expensive equipment got damaged.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, I mean seriously.
I don't know what they putinside those things.
Obviously I don't think it wastheir cart barn, so hopefully it
was all good.
You can't golf in this.
No, you can't.
You know, we're in ourconference room right now and I
keep hearing drivers beingbanged over in there.
It's pretty awesome.
If you look outside,everybody's booked right now.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It is Everybody's booked right now.
It is.
It's been busy every day thatI've been here recently with all
the snow and for the first timeever I had heard about it, but
I sat down and watched the TGLlast night.
Yes, yes, what do you think?
You know?
At first all the clips I hadseen on social media about it, I
thought it was kind of anexhibition type you know, golf
show, kind of like theGlobetrotters and basketball.
But it's not.
It's a legit game.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh yeah, these guys are straight competitive too,
aren't they?
They are.
I mean they're talking trashthe whole time while they're in
there.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
They're talking trash .
We've got PGA Tour players outthere, you know, showing what
they can do, and it's in thatkind of arena, an arena type
atmosphere which I think issuper cool where when you go out
to watch a PGA tour event, it'slike you're part of the gallery
that walks along with them, oryou're stuck in one location and
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all you get to watch is onehole.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, and on top of that, you've got the greatest
show on grass this week with theWaste Management Phoenix Open
Right, open, right.
I mean, have you been to thatone?
I have not, but you you have.
We used to live down there.
So, um, there was a golfacademy that I used to be one of
the directors of their juniordevelopment and we would go
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there and the kids couldactually caddy in the practice
rounds.
It was the coolest thing andthey would carry a tour player's
bag and then the tour playerwould let them chip and putt
with them around the green.
So, um, everyone knows about it, primarily because the party
right.
So hole 16, I mean, it'sincredible.
Par three, uh, should have seenwhat it looked like 20 years
ago, right, and now it's afootball stadium full on, like
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triple decker.
Uh, it's just the party scene.
So, uh, my wife and I were therelittle story here, uh and our
oldest daughter was born inScottsdale hospital, so not too
far from TPC Scottsdale, and, um, it was the first year she was
there and I was so excited totake her out and let her see
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Tiger woods.
He was coming off the chippingyips.
And I ran because I saw himshort side himself on a par
three.
I'm like, oh man, we get to seehim chip, let's see how he does
.
And I mean, the guy hits a flopto two feet.
He had it all, I mean.
And then you know it's practiceround.
So we're, we're watching a fewmore shots and all of a sudden,
uh, uh, there is this is alittle personal, but there's a
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smell.
So, but there's a smell.
What?
Yeah, there's a smell.
I'm like looking at my daughter, I'm like, no, you didn't Not
right, and we're watching TigerWoods right now.
So we're asking everybody likewhere's the nearest changing
station?
And they don't have them.
We're like, well, isn't thislike a potty?
Yeah, right, nope, nope, nope.
So we go under hole 16 andwe'll just say that there was a
(05:25):
little area there that wechristened.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
People sitting up in the stands are looking at their
neighbor like what did you do?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, and you know.
You know this might be aperfect time to talk about.
You know where we're going withthis podcast and with our
junior program down in Arizona.
We're going to be talking a lotabout junior golf today.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right, and no better person to join us than
Jessica Young.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Hey guys, How's it going?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Good Welcome.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, jessica.
So you spent a lot of time withthe US Kids Local Tour that was
started last year and you'vebeen putting a lot of those
events together.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You want to tell us a little bit about that?
Yeah, so the US Kids Tourevents have been awesome.
They've been super fun to seekids from six years old to 18
playing out there playing teesthat fit their game, and it's
just really exciting because USKids is something that I think
anybody could play in.
It doesn't really matter whatyour level is.
They make it fun.
So I really enjoyed theexperience.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I was shocked at the level of competitiveness.
In this I mean my son's 13.
He's playing in the 13-14 agegroup and these guys are hitting
further back than the men'stees on those courses Definitely
, and they were prettycompetitive this year.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, and don't you think that's kind of been one of
the struggles too, is beingable to find golf courses long
enough.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh, that's been a huge struggle because I've been
wanting to like incorporate thenine hole courses, the local
nine hole courses, but that'stough to get them to play all
the way back there.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, absolutely Well , you've done a great job with
it.
Obviously, it's just one of themany elements that you do to
grow the game of golf and thetournament side of it's fun.
And can you talk about, likethe US Kids Local Tour so far
that you've seen?
Because you know, from myperspective it's just another
segue and it's not necessarilyabout the competition so much
because they allow caddies.
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So tell us a little bit about,from your perspective, what
you've seen.
And maybe growing up, becauseyou're a great junior golfer,
you played D1 golf, you were atOregon State and obviously down
in Texas.
But what do you like about thisversus maybe the model of, even
not to say, oregon GolfAssociation isn't great because
it's phenomenal, but it's alittle different, right?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, I like this because it's phenomenal, but
it's a little different, right.
Yeah, um, I like this becauseit is something that you know, I
feel like really separates,like the age of the golfers and
what different yardages theyplay at Um, and like when you're
in OGA.
Like you know, the first coupleof times that I played in a
junior golf tournament, it wasreally long for me, I was
struggling, but I'd also beenplaying golf for a year, right,
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and I feel like kids can comefrom like not playing at all or
hardly playing in any event, andI had some girls had been
playing golf for two weeks andtheir first tournament was a US
kids event and they loved it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's awesome.
What do you think they lovedabout it?
Was it just like you running it?
Cause I mean, it's hard not tolove it when you're there.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
No, I felt like it was because it is such an
inviting atmosphere and it'sthere's not pressure.
It's just like you can go outand learn the game of golf and
you don't have parents that aregetting on the kids and it's
like the kids have a chance tolearn.
We really try to not, you know,we harp on the rules to show
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them the rules, but we don't sitthere and make it so that it's
all about the rules, like theyhave time to learn.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It teaches integrity.
Yeah, and it's.
I mean, I may be kind ofoverstepping a little bit by
saying this, but when I goonline to book a US kids tour
for my son, there are hundredsof chapters across the US.
Hundreds, yeah, and theNationals is held Pinehurst,
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pinehurst.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah Well and that's the thing I was going to segue
into is that it's a local tourthat gives you the opportunity
to play at a global level, Right?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, cause it's it.
It is all over the world.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, and I grew up in a small town on the coast and
I was driving at the minimumfour hours to play in a
tournament.
It was more like six to eightjust to play in a tournament and
you know the the then moneycomes into it, you know, in time
, and getting someone to takeyou up there when you can't
drive, there's all sorts ofthings.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So talk about barriers to entry.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So almost anywhere in the US has a local tour.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, at this point all of the states, I believe,
have something, and Oregonactually has three tours now.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So yeah, I mean Willamette, the southwest Oregon
and the central Oregon and theSouthwest Oregon and the Central
Oregon and the Central Oregon.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I guess two years ago it split off and it was just
the Southwest Oregon and, likethe Willamette Valley, portland
chapter, and then they addedthis Central Oregon, which is
phenomenal, I think at thebeginning it's tough, though,
right, jessica?
Because we're trying to buildthis tour into something bigger
and better, and so we're able topull from Northern California
as well, and I don't think toomany people know that because it
says Southwest Oregon.
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So you can actually cross overstate lines when you're playing
in these, and I think that'sanother unique thing.
So there's definitely some veryblack and white structure to it
, but there's also a lot ofopportunity to run it the way
you want to, and I think that'sreally nice.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You can sign your kids up for multiple tours too.
I know people have signed upfor the Southwest Oregon and the
Willamette.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, jessica, you were talking about that a little
bit, um, you've been on site atevery event, obviously, um, and
that people were starting tocome down a little bit more from
the potential of even earningpoints just because our tour
wasn't as busy yet.
But I think that's about tochange with some of the junior
golf development that's comingup, and you are our junior golf
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director at West Coast GolfAcademy.
You've been teaching golf since2019 at this point, and you are
a, I guess, and at least werethe only female PGA coach in
Southern Oregon for about fiveyears.
So I mean, that's a hugeopportunity in itself, and so
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tell us a little bit about you.
Know your role as a junior golfdirector and like the programs
you enjoy teaching the most.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, so I, before I was a golf instructor, I was a
teacher and that's where I foundmy love for kids.
So that's kind of how teachingjunior golf really started
because I love golf, played golfin college and then went to
college to be a teacher.
So you kind of merge themtogether and get something
that's really fun to do everyday.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
What age do you find kids starting to get involved in
golf?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The youngest student that I'm teaching right now is
three.
The youngest I've ever taughtwas two.
How long were those lessons?
They were the two-year-oldswere an hour, but that was
because we were focusing on alsolearning sign language, because
I have my master's degree inspecial ed specializing in
autism and this little boy wasautistic, so we were kind of
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doing a couple of things at onetime.
But right now my youngeststudent is three.
She started because she waswatching her brother in my
little link stars class and thenwanted to join and that's
honestly three to five year old.
I love teaching everybody, butthree to five year olds are a
whole nother ball game out thereand it's pretty fun to watch
them swing a club and you know,you see that pure joy when they
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finally get it do you ever comeacross a kid who comes in who's
never touched a golf club beforethey pick it up?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
and they, just they have the effect yeah, and it's
cool.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's super, super cool to watch.
I think, watching kids swing agolf club, adults can learn a
lot because they don't have fearthat is true yeah, well and if
you've ever watched Jessicateach, she puts the fun in
fundamentals, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Right, and on top of that, like this program and when
we've sat down and looked atplayer development as a whole, I
mean there's a passion that youhave and it's so far beyond
what I've seen with theseyounger kids, not just girls,
because you're, because you're,you know, you're a girl coach,
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you know and you focused on that, but you're definitely
spreading your wings and growingthe game at a much bigger level
than you probably even imagined.
And I mean the little linkstars class is turning into a
secondary class and then even athird because you have kind of
your private class, and thenthese other ones, because
everyone wants it now, becausethey're realizing how awesome it
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is and it's not justbabysitting, like these kids are
actually learning how to playgolf but also having fun.
They don't even know thatthey're learning to play golf
half the time.
They're just like I play golf,yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Awesome yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So tell us a little bit about what you're most
excited for moving into thisseason, Cause we've had a lot of
conversation about PGA juniorleague, now LPGA girls golf
camps, Like I mean you name itright and we're going to try to
move, move the needle.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I'm really excited because I, with our
junior player developmentcourses that we have coming out
this year, I'm excited because Ifeel like there is truly a
class for every kid.
Yes, and it doesn't, it's justI'm excited for it.
I have several LPGA girls golfclasses.
We have lots of different PGAjunior league classes to offer
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for all different ages,facilities, all sorts of things,
and being a kid that didn'thave golf things like that
around, I mean it's prettyexciting.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So let's talk about specialization in sport.
Obviously, as a director ofjunior golf, like you're
noticing, probably, that thesekids are trying to play golf
more because parents are gettinginvolved, saying I want my kid
to golf instead of playbasketball and football and run
and jump and just whatever theyneed to do, and so you know we
have somebody here that helpswith that.
(15:04):
But like what, what is it fromyour perspective that you're
noticing?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
One.
You have to understand thatyou're a little bit at a loss of
control.
I would like kids to play threesports if I could.
If I could have them play threesports or more.
I would totally do it, um, butthere's not, I can't make them
right, and so that's what'sreally cool about our facility
we have someone that focuses onyour movements and working out
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and doing all sorts of thingsthat your body needs that you
would get from other sports.
Then we also have differentclasses that you can take, so
you don't have to just focus onone thing.
It's we make it so that it'sall sorts of all different games
.
Right, you're working on yourfull swing, but then you can
also go out and play and we'rekind of breaking it up.
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We have fitness courses, soit's like we really could kind
of make shift our own threesport thing here.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, and we do a little bit, and I think, at the
end of the day, I haven't sharedthis with you yet, but I'm
still looking for a place forthat basketball hoop.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think that would be amazing and every ball in the
book needs to be at Golf Garage,which is what our closet's
really for to have that football, the basketball, go dribble, go
do this, you know, play alittle bit, but still like being
able to throw something.
And those fine motor skillsright, obviously, your degree in
childhood development, you know, you're.
I mean, I remember the firsttime we went to a school and
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there was these little girls andthey were probably four or five
and instead of just focusing on, hey, we're going to learn
posture and we're going to dothese things today, you
literally threw the ball backand forth and said, hey, let's
go get the green ball, let's getthe red ball.
And I mean you were liketeaching them really important
things above and beyond golf.
And then at the end you're like, hey, we're golfers now and
here's a ball marker and, andthen they come back.
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It was like it was really cool,that gift that you have to be
able to share with the youth.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And, as as a parent, there's that humbling, yet you
know prideful moment you havewhen your son's been golfing for
a few years.
You take him out to the courseand he beats you for the first
time.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yes, tell me this story now.
Why did I not hear?
Did I hear about this?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't know.
I think we were playing StoneRidge and I shot an 88 and Toby
shot an 82.
Not only did he beat me, hedestroyed me on a day that I
thought I played well.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Wow, wow.
I guess I'm going to have to goget him a trophy.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I didn't have the excuse of oh, I was just having
a bad day because I played well.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
We need that.
I beat my dad trophy.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I know Right We'll get him a shirt that he has to
wear on father's day, and I was.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I was beating him solidly and like I on the front
nine and he came back to justclean my clock in the back nine.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Good deal.
Well, that's got to be a goodfeeling, in a way like that your
son can do that.
Now, his goal is never to letyou win, probably.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, and now his goal is to never let me go play
another game of golf without him.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I love that.
Jessica, you coached collegegolf and that's when we started
meeting.
You were the assistant coach,um, and I would love to hear a
little bit of your take, um.
I know you're not currentlycoaching it, but you know some
advice for our viewers, um, onwhat it really does take to play
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division one golf, and then, ontop of that side, question what
it takes while you're in schoolto make the traveling team,
because you weren't only playingDivision I golf, you were
playing in every tournament.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah.
So my favorite thing to do isjust kind of run through a day
and you know we'd wake up, we'dhave weights at six, weights
would go until about 7, 730, andthen classes would start and
you'd have classes from eight tonoon until about 7, 730, and
then classes would start andyou'd have classes from 8 to
noon.
And our furthest golf coursethat we practiced at was about
an hour and 15 minutes away.
Our closest one was about 30minutes away, so at that point
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in time practice would start at2.
So from noon to 2, you had toget there right, hopefully, eat
lunch, get there and you had tobe ready.
And I remember the very firsttime we weren't ready at 2 pm,
which meant shoes on, bags out,you're on the putting ring.
Putting Coach met us at 530 thenext morning at the track and
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let me tell you it wasn't fun.
So you had practice until aboutsix and then you had to go to
study hall as soon as you gotdone with practice and you'd be
at study hall until 9 pm andthen you'd go home and you'd
finish whatever homework youdidn't get done, have dinner, go
to bed and do it all over again.
Uh and that was just a normalday, professor, for keeping you
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late yeah so, but then thetravel was a whole nother thing
because I mean, you were, had, Ihad girls on my team that would
practice while, or they wouldlike study their notes.
They had them on their clickgear and the little hubby thing
and they would be studying theirnotes during our practice round
because they would have a bigtest they had to take when we
got back, um, and it was coached, gave me tests on the airplane,
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uh, all sorts of things You'venever stopped.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So that differs a lot than what a lot of coaches will
teach you at the higher levelabout getting mentally prepared
and having your head in the game, not elsewhere, right?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Oh yeah, coach didn't really like that they studied.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, no no, from my experience as well, it's
a different ball game once youget to the level, and I would
just say that you hit the nailon the head, jessica.
I still remember taking a testat a basketball camp that we
were staying at beforeconference championships and it
is so difficult to compete.
(20:35):
Well, when you're thinkingabout, I have to pass this test
to get like an A in the class,otherwise I could fail it
because they're weighted so high.
So it's funny.
When you say all that stuff,I'm like, hmm, would I have
wanted to be a division onegolfer if I would have known all
that, or would it havemotivated me?
But, like for you, yourpersonality trait, you're like
that's cool, bring it on, gameon, I'm gonna be.
(20:56):
You know, I'm gonna go rockthis and I'm gonna go win golf
tournaments, so it's awesome.
So advice, wise, um, for theyounger aspiring player right,
they always think about well, Iwant to be on tour, and then
they skip the step of what it'sreally like to play in college,
and it does give you a sense oftravel and the time commitments,
but it's not just about golf.
(21:16):
So so what do you think wouldbe a little tidbit that you'd
like to give to those coming up.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I mean, my biggest thing is one, before you make
that decision if it's somethingyou want to do, uh it's, do you
really love it?
You know, I had a moment intime where I wasn't necessarily
playing for me and it made itreally tough.
Um, let me tell you, when Istarted playing for me, it was a
lot better, but it is one ofthose things that it's you have
(21:44):
to want it, you have to want tobe exhausted, you have to want
to work your tail off, becauseeverybody there wants the same
thing that you want and theydon't care.
They're going to get there,they're going to be better than
you.
So it's something where youknow you have to want to devote
your life to golf and in orderto take it to that next level.
(22:06):
Otherwise it's not enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Two, very deep and personal questions.
Are you ready?
Yeah, what's your favorite golfcourse you've ever played?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
That's so tough.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, I know where you're about to go play.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, yeah, and I played that one.
Where's that?
Pebble Beach in March.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Chee Next year.
You guys are taking me there.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, you got to win the drawing, like Jessica did.
Okay, taylormade's taking herdown, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Game on.
I'm really excited.
I've been trying to play PebbleBeach on the sim at least once
a week to get ready for it.
But honestly, Bend Country Clubis my favorite because that's
where I shot my lowest score andI felt like I tore that golf
course up, especially after thefirst day I played it, when I
five putted that par three.
That's three tiers.
I can't remember what number itis, but that one was tough.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
What was that score again when I five putted?
No, yeah, your lowest scorethere.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Oh, I was like five put it was a 74 um.
No, I shot 68 and it was on thesecond 18 holes of the
championship of the oregonamateur she can ball, wow yeah
all right.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Last question what's your favorite food?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
tacos, taco, tuesday.
There it is, come on.
Well, darren, we have.
I mean, this junior golf thingis phenomenal.
First, of all, it is Absolutelyand what Jessica's bringing to
the table is crazy.
She's actually about to startteaching a class, she's got her
LPGA class and then she's gotsome lessons the rest of the
(23:42):
afternoon, because Golf Garageallows you to do that 24-7.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So we have another guest coming up this next, uh,
next week.
Yeah, as a matter of fact, uh,jermaine curse, who was the wide
receiving.
Well, he, he basically got theSeahawks with the game winning
catch to the super bowl and hissuper bowl winning wide receiver
, and he also owns an indoorgolf facility In fact, two up in
(24:10):
Seattle, tacoma area and he's aSuper Bowl winning wide
receiver and he also owns anindoor golf facility in fact,
two up in Seattle, Tacoma areaand he's going to be on with us
next week.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Excellent, excellent.
While we're on the topic ofindoor golf, getting back to the
TGL, how has that and how is itdo you anticipate going to
affect the indoor golf industry?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, listen, I do not have real grass as my mats.
That's number one.
I will never do that either, soplease don't ask for it.
I don't have a farm out back orreal sand indoors.
Yeah, you know what.
You know what Jermaine does,though.
He's got sand indoors.
I'm curious to see how messy itgets, because every place I've
been to, it's an awesome time tohave an indoor facility.
(24:53):
I said this once before.
There's more rounds of golfbeing played indoors now than
outdoors and it's showing notjust because of weather but it's
because of time.
So if you can play Pebble Beach, like Jessica has done every
week, and you don't have to pay$600 to do it, or if it's that
once in a lifetime trip to do it, why not prepare to play it?
So you know how the collegeteam SOU that I coach, we
(25:16):
prepared just like that for atournament up in Washington.
Without the Sims we probablywould have finished sixth or
seventh.
We finished third because theyknew what the dogleg carry
distances were and they knew theuphill slopes.
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And they knew where the trees were in the bunkers
and everything is light art.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's exactly what it is.
We actually have the localcountry club now on ours.
Rogue Valley country club isnow on GS pro software, which is
one of them that we use here atgolf garage.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Very cool.
Yes, sir, I'm excited.
Thank you, jessica, for joiningus.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Thank you guys for having me.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Jessica, and next week Jermaine cares All right.
Thanks for joining us onepisode three of the my Golf
Shorts podcast.
We'll see you next week.
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