January 31, 2025 • 32 mins
What if cutting-edge technology could revolutionize your golf game? Join us as we engage in an enlightening conversation with Janean Murphy, the 2024 National LPGA Teacher of the Year, who shares her journey and insights into the future of golf instruction. We recount our Simulator League adventures at Torrey Pines, where camaraderie and friendly competition were at the forefront despite a few challenges. Janean reveals how her journey from Texas to a private country club in Missouri has shaped her approach to player development, highlighting the groundbreaking role of technologies like Sportsbox AI in offering new perspectives on swing mechanics.
Our discussion extends to the exciting innovations we've encountered, such as the Force Board Pro by SuperSpeed Golf, which enhances training through its versatile design. We introduce a four-week putting league and discuss plans for LPGA one-on-one classes, along with couples therapy sessions inspired by Brian Jacobs. These initiatives aim to improve communication on the course and offer practical advice for beginners. Janine's pioneering spirit and expertise underscore the importance of professional guidance, while her insights into technology offer a glimpse into the dynamic evolution of golf coaching.
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to the MyGolfSource podcast.
It's official.
It's episode two of theMyGolfSource podcast.
Welcome to the show.
I'm Darren, along with Noah.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Here we go, buddy.
Round two is coming up and wejust got done playing some
Simulator League.
We did how did you do?
I shot?
A little under par today, buddy.
How'd you do?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I shot a 46, hey you know what handicaps my whole
team struggled today it was.
It was a struggle, but but youknow what it was fun.
We drank a couple of beers.
We just hung out.
We had a lot of greatconversation and we played golf.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, we played golf at Torrey Pines, which isn't the
worst thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
One of my teammates said he's going to go home and
complain to his wife that he hada bad night at the simulator
league.
I said you're going to besleeping on the couch tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I was going to say how's that going to hold up?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah right, Not very well.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
She's like I'm home with the kids.
Uh, yeah, well, you know whatwe had a seven handicap, shoot
one under today, really, yeah,but you know what we're in like
fifth place.
I think you guys are in firstplace, so I don't really feel
bad for you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, we were in first place.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm not sure we are now yeah, yeah, yeah, the goal
is to catch up.
Yeah, here we go right.
Well, we promised some greatguests.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, we did and you didn't fall short.
You came through for us.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Hey, you know what I'm super excited for tonight,
and the guest that we're goingto have on is the 2024 National
LPGA Teacher of the Year, janineMurphy.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Welcome to the show, Janine.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hi guys.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hey Janine, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm good.
I'm good, I'm over here inMissouri.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Can you believe it?
So 8 o'clock here.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
10, 10.15 your time, yeah, you stayed up late for us,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I did Happy to.
That was one of my bestie golffriends.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Welcome.
It's a pleasure for me to meetyou.
I never met you when you werein town, I know.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'm glad to have you here with us now.
Well, thanks for the invite,guys.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, janine, we're super excited to have you.
Obviously, you're one of myclosest friends in the golf
industry.
We've known each other for whatfive, six years?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
at this point, I think we met in 2018 at a
proponent group summit.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh man, you got it down.
Yeah, we were in Dallas, Texas,if I recall, at the Cowboys
Golf Club.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
How fun is that.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, they had all those funny, those silly little
uh the helmets, but it was a.
It was a pretty special placeand we learned a lot together
and from uh what.
I remember you and I were bothlooking at our opportunities
elsewhere at the time and so wewere in an education together
and that's where we really gotto know each other on maybe our
value.
(03:25):
And you know, now you've kindof found your place in Missouri,
so I would love a littlebackstory for our guests to hear
about, kind of how you wentfrom Texas to Missouri.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, so it was, I guess 2021.
And I was just at a daily fee.
I'd been running my own academyfor about five years and the
only struggle I had is I was atthree locations and that was
really overwhelming to me.
It just it was getting hard.
So I just wanted to get back toone club, like well, why am I
(04:01):
limiting myself just to Houston,texas?
The United States is pretty bigand my husband works remotely,
so he's like just go out and seeif there's something out there
that'll fit.
And so I ended up here inMissouri and it turned out to be
a really nice private countryclub member owned we have a
(04:22):
little right around 400 golfingmembers.
And yeah, almost three yearslater, here I am.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, and Janine, you know, obviously you're not just
a golf professional, you arelike literally a player
development expert in my eyes,right Like I.
I love calling and talking withyou about you know what you're
doing, what you know.
You're doing what you know.
You're always doing the nextthing.
It seems like you're an earlyadopter and you were just at the
(04:48):
pga show.
Uh, obviously, you know gettingyour national award and again,
congratulations, that's justlike incredible um you know and
for me, it seems like I'm alwayslearning from you on what the
next thing is.
So can you tell us about thePGA show?
I didn't go this year,obviously with the golf garage
(05:11):
being open and I just wanted toknow what's the new thing,
what's the next best thing thatyou saw there and what are you
looking forward to in 2025?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Gosh.
A couple of things.
I'll start with technology.
So I'm an early adopter toSportsbox and I know you just
got connected with them.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
But Sportsbox so, yeah, tell us about it, though
Like I don't know if ourlisteners are going to know what
Sportsbox AI is.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So it's a tool for instructors.
You know they say the launchmonitor tells us the ball and
the club data.
Well, sports box shows us thebody data.
So it's going to show yourotation, it's going to show you
sway, it's going to show lift,it'll show thrust.
So it just gives you and that'sjust scratching the surface,
(06:03):
but it gives you a lot ofnumbers, wrist angles, um.
That really helps theinstructor find, like to me, I
call it the big red flag or thered herring, um, and it gets you
to improving quick.
And the other thing I like itas an instructor and a tool for
us is it helps me stay focused.
Like I know not to move on,like if your sway numbers are
off and I'm working on thatlateral movement.
I know not to move on Like ifyour sway numbers are off and
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I'm working on that lateralmovement.
I know not to move on until Isee those numbers get in the
range that we're trying to getyou to, yeah, and so that really
keeps me on task where I think,as a younger instructor, I
might would have week one workedon this week too.
When I see I changed it and nowwe're going over here and like
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it wasn't a clearly defined path.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So I like it's like that accountability aspect,
right, I mean it's like a you,you hit the nail on the head,
having a tool that allowssomeone to have an actual
assessment of their body whereyou can translate it to feel if
that makes sense.
I mean their body where you cantranslate it to feel if that
makes sense.
I mean when I watched you, whenyou came out, I mean so you came
out to golf garage a coupleweeks ago or I guess just before
the PGA show and I mean, yeah,you were a guest instructor and
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you know I remember our friendBrian Jacobs showing us, or
talking to us at least aboutsports box early on.
I know you were talking to him,he was talking to me about it
and I was definitely weary.
And they have come so far withthis software that it's
literally within 1% of like thebest technology out there that
(07:38):
you would wear.
Is my understanding.
Is that pretty accurate?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, that is, and so at the PGA show they launched
the Sports Spark Studio thattraditionally you would have to
have all the high speed camerasin your studio.
It's on the phone now.
You can capture it on youriPhone or your iPad, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So our phones are literally like more powerful
than the Starship, right, I meanback in the day, because our
phones are just as good as thosehigh def cameras.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
And so all that data that was captured, we can.
We can now get it, and theyhave this awesome report.
Uh, that, uh, it would be anactual extra charge, but they
that you can do this report.
You'd hit like x number of ir.
So maybe you're hitting yourseven iron and then X number of
drivers and it just breaks downyour swing and shows you exactly
(08:29):
where you're inefficient, whereyou can get more efficient,
where you can build more speed.
Yeah, it's pretty impressive,yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
As an amateur.
How often do you find now, withall this technology, versus
before you were using thistechnology, that you find the
technology is guiding you in adifferent direction than what
you would have thought withoutthat technology?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
um, I definitely feel like I teach different when I
use it.
Yeah, I mean, I was just goingby what my eye could see and
then being able to put it insomething in slow motion and
slow it down, like we used tojust look at the swing in a
two-dimensional, but this putsyou in a three-dimensional and
then it gives you all thenumbers and you don't have to
(09:21):
wear sensors all over your bodylike the K-Vest, or if you had
the numbers and you don't haveto wear sensors all over your
body like the k vest, or if youhad the amm system.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
um, so it's pretty impressive what, uh, sportsbox
has been able to do and, um, Idon't know, I feel like it's
leapfrogged my instruction forthe private lesson side a lot so
, janine, like in simple terms,like to a you know, non, non
golfer or someone that's takenlessons this could be a scary
(09:48):
thought like this is technical,right, and I would say that when
you brought it to my attentionas another coach, it's more of.
This is such an amazing toolthat anyone that is on the app
can do this from their home,without hitting a golf ball in
(10:09):
the driving range, and learn abetter motion, a better golf
swing and we get this term a lotand I hear it all the time in
my assessments.
I want to be more consistent,right.
So yeah, darren's raising hishand in the studio.
It's like what's consistent?
Define that.
So now, what's so cool fromwhat I've found in Sportsbox is
(10:34):
that you now have this profilethat you send to your coach and
you can make these golf swingsliterally in your backyard and
then the coach can help them getbetter right then and there.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yes, and, like I said , I feel it's because it shows
you the 2D video but thentranslating that into 3D and you
can move that avatar.
So if I took you from a face onview but I want to see what
happened down the line with yourpath, I can move that avatar
and watch the club path and kindof it's like I had two cameras
(11:13):
on you at the same time.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So like if you were defining yeah, if you were
defining 2D and 3D right For ourlisteners, I mean, like 2D
would just be like a camera,essentially Just like a face on
that's what I see with my eyesand then 3D, you could literally
go over the top of their heador under the ground and see
every moving part right.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
That's correct.
Yes, so you can move around onall planes.
I'm not going to go through allof them, but you can look, like
you said, forward, back, fromunderneath, like you're under
their feet, from above theirhead, like you're a helicopter
behind their back, face on Fromthe target.
If you're standing on targetside and watching them hit at
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you vantage points of the swing,that like I can't stand in
front of somebody when they'rehitting, but I can move their
avatar and kind of see somemovement and show them something
that I traditionally can't do.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Hey, noah, was this, this the technology you used on
me during that assessment acouple of weeks ago?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean you'd like to know right.
I mean yes.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh, you mean when I put you in front of all the
professionals?
Yes, yeah, it is you know whatit?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I was more intimidated being filmed than I
was being in front of 30 people.
And I have to say, when youshowed that avatar and broke
down my swing with this avataron there, that didn't look like
me.
It took that self-consciousaspect completely away and I
looked at my swing with acompletely subjective view,
(12:48):
without the biased view oflooking at myself.
You know what I mean.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That is actually great feedback, isn't it, Janine
?
It's like, here we go.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I mean, we got a golfer in front of us that has
an opportunity to break 80, sowe have, like, in the future
we're definitely going to bedoing some uh, some swing tweaks
and some tips with darren hereand our goal is to be like the
road to darren or whatever we'regoing to call it, but like yeah
, I mean he immediately gotbetter because of sportsbox AI
(13:20):
and the idea of breaking downone small aspect and finding the
root cause of the problem.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And being a big guy, I was always like, well, my back
, I'm not limber enough, my backswing's not far enough, my
elbows aren't in tight enough,my rotation isn't enough.
Looking at that avatar, I'mgoing, wow, in tight enough, my
rotation isn't enough.
Looking at that avatar, I'mgoing, wow, it is enough.
My swing actually doesn't lookthat bad.
Where I'm actually watching avideo of myself, I'm like, oh, I
(13:50):
look like crap and I'm thinkingabout the wrong things.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So, janine, next steps for you, right Like you're
an amazing coach.
You're an amazing person, rightlike you care about every
student.
I mean, that's that's how Iwould definitely describe you
just this amazing person thatjust continues to grow.
You're always on the forefrontof what's next.
You're bringing in somethingnew and exciting all the time.
(14:19):
You're getting educated all thetime, right?
So what at the PGA show stoodout?
You kind of mentioned thatthere was a training aid that
you bought.
But like what are the thingsthat are up and coming?
Because a PGA show is like theepitome of like everything new
and exciting in golf.
They always hold, always holdout for us right in January down
(14:41):
in Orlando.
So what did you find?
That was just awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
For me two new tools that I bought.
Uh, one already came in.
Uh, that is from super speedgolf.
I went ahead and bought theforce board pro, so it's very
similar to why golf's balanceboard so what is so?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
what weight shift, so weight shift, okay.
So if you, explained.
It is like a teeter-totterboard, essentially that you
stand on so why?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
golf is the teeter-totter board.
But super speed took thatconcept and then made it like
super uh, what would be a goodword to describe it Like I'm
going to say functional, butit's really versatile, that
might be a better word.
So it has these little holeslike pegs, like you had a
(15:29):
pegboard in your garage andyou're going to hang your tools
or something.
So it has these pegs and fromthe underneath you can put what
would make it teeter-totter andlift up the middle.
Well, because it's like apegboard, you could move that to
the back of the board and hitoff a downslope.
You could move it to the front,like your lead side, so now
you're hitting off an upslope,that's cool.
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Then you could put it towardsthe balls of your feet, so
you're hitting on a downslope orupslope.
Then you could put it the otherway, so that you're hitting on
the downslope, so you can workon different slopes even though
you're in the studio.
And then obviously that canbecome drills for instructors.
And then with the pegs, theythey add these little force
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puddles, like like we have forcepuddles that you could put
under the feet.
They have some of these, thatkind of stick in like a pegboard
, and so maybe I want it underyour trail heel so you can push
off of it, or maybe I want it onthe instep because you tend to
sway too much in your back.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So I want it to be on your instep to feel pressure it
sounds to me like this pegboardhas the opportunity to pretty
much fix any fault from like theground up.
Yeah, it's definitely for howthe players using the ground for
sure so what I really like, andthen the other thing yeah, go
(16:48):
ahead oh, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh, I was gonna say even as simple as like, maybe I
take off that thing that makesit teeter-totter and it has two
little yellow pegs.
So maybe I even have a brandnew golfer and they're trying to
learn stance with.
Well, I could put those pegs init, the yellow pegs.
So maybe I even have a brandnew golfer and they're trying to
learn stance width.
Well, I could put those pegs init, the yellow pegs, and say
this is where I want, like yourbig toes, to be, so that way
they're learning how wide theirstance should be.
Or maybe I'm changing aplayer's stance, maybe they've
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been too wide and I need tonarrow them up, or the opposite.
So I mean, even for somethingsimple as a dress position, I
think it's going to be reallynice.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So you have an indoor facility in your club in
Missouri and I know it just gotrefinished.
You've got Foresight software,just like I do.
You know it's the best indooroutdoor in the biz.
So this training aid soundslike it could allow you to
simulate any lie out there.
(17:43):
Yeah, yes that's incredible Ineed to buy 10 of those right
now for my 10 base uh, it'spretty impressive and they had
obviously a nice pga special.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
They're probably still running it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Noah, I'm sure if you reached out to them I'm gonna
have, uh, I'm gonna have youhook me up with that, janine.
I think you've probably got abetter relationship with them at
this point, but uh, yeah, we'regonna be talking more about
that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
The force board pro is what it's called.
And then the only otherteaching aid I was overly
impressed with that was new tome.
My friend, lpga member TiffanyFawcett, developed the mirror
mat.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So I know I sent you a text.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So I was like I'm buying it, I'm sold.
So you know how we head offmats.
It's just turf and so it's thesize of like if you're on a
range, like a range mat.
But somehow she invented, cameup and found the right product.
It's a mirror, but you canstand on it.
You're not going to stand on itin dress shoes, but like a
tennis shoe, something with anice rubber bottom so you won't
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slip, but it has enough flex andI forget what she said it's
made out of but it won't break.
And then, for where you hit thehitting strip is one of those
mats I forget what they'recalled but where you hit it and
it leaves the path and then youcan swipe it back the other
direction.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But where you hit it and it leaves the path and then
you can swipe it back the otherdirection.
Oh, that's amazing, you know,yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes and uh, well that .
And then she has these littlethings that you can extend out.
So she talks about how visible,even though people learn by
feel or like their their um,auditory but but she said 80 of
our learning comes from visualand so in her lesson she was
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trying to make what she sees asthe instructor but the player
can't see it because she's likeeven if I put a camera over your
head to try to show you, Ican't, I don't have x-ray, I
can't make the camera see, likewhere your hands are hanging.
So she's like I'm gonna haveyou stand on a mirror and then
you can kind of see these thingsand see like when you're
putting hey, you're swaying alittle, you need to stay still,
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or you know, when you'reswinging, some people move their
head with their upper body allat the same time.
You can work path.
If somebody's like maybe theirtakeaway, they bring it way
inside and the the clubs behindthem too early in their takeaway
.
So this extends like a runwaydown your target line with these
mirrors and the player can seethat club face position.
(20:19):
She put little two inch markersthe width of a club face and so
that way they can match up thetoe and heel If it's somebody
that needs to learn club facecontrol.
I mean, there's like so manycool things you can do with this
thing.
I'm barely scratching thesurface, but I was like I'm
getting it, so I'm waiting onthat to come in.
(20:39):
I hope it comes in next weekwell, janine, that's super
exciting since it's a mirror.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, it is an indoor tool, since it's a mirror,
obviously the sun would blindyou reflecting on that to it and
(21:05):
, as a you know instructor, thatis invaluable.
I mean, I think what we'retrying to do here is give some
sort of a feel to our studentthat they can replicate.
But, like you said, 80% oflearning is visual, so no one
that I've seen has createdanything like this.
I mean, we use cameras so muchthat sometimes we forget that
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the mirror is one of the besttraining aids out there.
And for someone to put a mirrorthat allows you to look down
and see everything, and then youcan manipulate it to see the
club, your face, your head,that's just incredible to me
Instant feedback.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, it's real, real-time feedback and yeah, I
so I can't wait to get it in andstart working with the students
.
I mean, she was even talkingabout and I have one those
little convex, concave mirrorsthat you put behind a player on
the range, sure, but it doesdistort your view and so nothing
of hers is convex or concave,so like it's like like a
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wardrobe mirror, you know how.
You just lean it against thewall at your house or something
and to check yourself out.
So these mirrors are justyou're seeing what you're really
doing.
And so when I tell my players,hey, you're still going inside,
and they're like, really, and Ishow them on the video, but now
they can actually see it intheir takeaway, watch the hand
path, or maybe they're watchingthe club head path.
(22:30):
I think that's going to enhanceand get them where we want them
to be even faster.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, absolutely so, janine, tell us a little bit
about what your plans are for2025.
I mean winning the NationalLPGA Teacher of the Year Awards,
winning the national LPGAteacher of the year awards, kind
of the yeah, I mean it's likethe creme de la creme um of our
profession.
And and in ladies, golfspecifically.
So, like, again, you travel andplay golf, you, you play golf,
(23:01):
you know, in pro-ams, you,you're out there teaching every
day.
You're growing the game fromgrassroots all the way up to um,
some of the best players in theworld.
So, like, what are you lookingforward to?
What are your goals here in2025, after you've already kind
of hit one of the apexes of yourcareer?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Oh man, I am so jazzed about 2025.
I just did five straight daysof education in Orlando, so I'm
pumped.
I've already revamped my springtraining program, so I'm really
excited to be bringing out somenew ideas for 2025 with my
members One of my.
The idea is something simple.
I haven't thought of thisbefore, but a putting league, a
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four week putting league.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Like you have bowling leagues, like you're doing
simulator league.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like, let's lower your, your putting handicap, in
four weeks.
So there's like one drill thatyou would have the group work on
every week, but after they dothat as their warmup, then
you're doing whatever drillyou're working on, maybe it's
distance control, maybe it'sshort putt, you know whatever
but then their handicap loweringthat is going to be made based
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off of that one drill that theydo every week.
And obviously, if you reallywant to lower it and get the
prize for the class, you'regoing to be out there practicing
even more.
So yeah, and then just, Ihaven't done any LPGA one-on-one
classes in a while, so I'mgoing to kind of sprinkle those
back in for the ladies and gosh,gosh, there's, there's.
(24:29):
There's like, oh, couplestherapy.
I got that from brian jacobs,so I'm gonna offer some couples
therapy classes.
Uh, one will be on full swing,one will be on short game, but
we'll meet at like we all.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
We all need.
We all need couples therapy.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yes, yeah and so yeah , and then they can go up to the
club and have dinner.
But I thought, brian, that's abrilliant idea.
Yeah, because how many of itthere's, the one of the players
is a little bit better a lot ofthe time and they can think
they're helping, but maybe it'sactually not helping and it's
maybe intimidating orfrustrating to the other golfer.
(25:05):
So how do we talk to each other?
And you know what I always lovein that situation, when you get
a golfer.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So how do we talk to each other?
And you know what I always lovein that situation when you get
a golfer, where either thehusband or the wife comes in and
one of them's a little bit moredominant and helping typically
the male right.
So, um, it's one of thosethings where you say, hey, tell
your significant other thatyou're paying X for this lesson
and it's going to cost you about10 times that much If you keep
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helping me.
It works every time, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So those are just a few classes, but yeah, I came
away with a ton of fresh ideas.
I'm real excited to put thoseinto play.
Obviously, I can't start untilafter the time changes, so
probably in March, but that'sright around the corner and I've
decided to try to join the PGA.
So I've reached out to them tofind out what I have to do to
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become a dual member and well,that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Are you kidding me?
You know how lucky we are tohave.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Jeez.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I'm like there's just I'm like I just need to expand
my network, you know, and I'mlike, why limit myself to just
the LPGA when I have theopportunity to meet so many
wonderful PGA members likeyourself?
So that's like I just need toget in there and do it.
Quit not doing it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Janine, what advice do you have for you know
enthusiast golfers who areintimidated to seek help.
They know they need help.
They're sick to death ofshooting in the high 90s, low
100s.
They want to get help butthey're scared to go in front of
a coach and say where do Ibegin?
(26:43):
What advice do you have forthem to encourage to seek
professional coaching?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well I would say, like Noah, like myself and other
pros, like we're we're justnormal people.
We're not going to laugh at you.
We're going to listen.
We're going to make sure wefind out what your goals are.
We're going to find out youknow just who you are as a
person, how you learn.
It's going to be a very easyprocess.
(27:09):
We're probably going to makeyou laugh and have a good time
along the way and get rid ofthat stage fright.
You can do it in a privatesetting.
Some people might do it betterin a group because they feel
like the eyes aren't on them theentire time.
So maybe that person might be abetter candidate for, like, a
small group of six training.
So find that beginner typeclass.
(27:30):
But some people are like, oh, Idon't want to be in a group.
So just know that that theprofessionals are there Like we
care about you and we want youto be successful and we're going
to do everything we can to makethat experience very
comfortable.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Even if it's just a quick 30 minutes Cause
everybody's yeah everybodystarts somewhere.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Oh yeah, everybody starts somewhere.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So we've talked a lot about this amazing, amazing
technology that's out there thathelps coaches be better coaches
, gives you more data andinformation to work from when
you're coaching.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Is there such thing as a training aid that people
can use on their own time,without the guidance of a coach,
that's going to help make thema better golfer?
I would say yes, something assimple as a rope.
So I think, noah, you have some.
I actually bought the one fromDr Kwan, I forget what it's
called.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You could YouTube Dr kwan rope drill and um it was.
Or you could go to home, or youcan go to home depot and get
one for about, you know, adollar I think it needs to be.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
He has a youtube video.
If you want to make your own,like how long it needs to be, I
want to say it's like seven ornine feet, um, and what type of
rope, like the diameter of it.
But, um, I just bought one fromhim because I didn't want to go
to home depot.
But yeah, just a rope drillwhere you're swinging it over
your trail shoulder and it kindof it will hit your back and
(29:01):
then you swing forward to yourfollow-through over your lead
side and it's going to hit yourback again.
But is it hitting kind of inthe same place?
It's not hitting over your heador hitting you in the ear, like
it should be.
Like I always tell women, likearound your bra strap, under
your armpits for guys, so youcould learn kind of just a basic
motion.
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It's going to work on tempo.
It'll help you learn a swingplane.
Hopefully you'll start pickingup a weight shift with that.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So I would say that's a simple and a low cost
investment, janine you hit thenail on the head it's a three
quarter inch rope by seven feet.
I just looked it up online andthat's exactly it.
I didn't have mine in front ofme, but it is amazing.
You hit so many huge pointsthere from a coaching
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perspective, and it'sinteresting to me, like if we
started from the putting strokeand move back, how much tempo
matters to a square clubface.
And a square clubface means Ihit it where I wanted to.
And when someone comes to meand says I want consistency, if
they look up and see the ball goin a direction they wanted to,
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even if they topped it, they'regoing to be a lot happier than
if it went into the water or outof bounds.
So I think that that rope couldbe, you know, one of the best
investments we can make, and Ithink that might be a tip and
trick in the future here on thepodcast.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I mean, well, thanks, yeah, um, I just, I'm like for
a low cost investment, and ifyou don't even want to buy a set
of clubs but you want to seewhat golf is kind of like, swing
a rope, it's not that much, youknow, money involved, so you
may even have one laying aroundyour house, who knows?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Janine, it's been such a pleasure having you on
the show and you've been such anamazing resource to us, and
congratulations on all of youraccomplishments this year.
Do you have a website?
Do you have anything wherepeople can learn more about you
and what you do?
Kind of promote your business alittle bit?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Well, I kind of took my website down just because I'm
at a private country club.
But I mean, I'm always like mycell phone is available.
Anybody can text me at any time.
I don't mind giving it out.
So if y'all don't mind, I'llgive it out really quick.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Go for it 832.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
It's the Texas area code 832-326-2793.
And I'm like shoot me a text,maybe don't call too late.
But yeah, I respond to textpretty fast and I love chatting
with people and connecting withother professionals.
Um, tonight I actuallyconnected with another midwest
lpga professional for the firsttime, so I uh want to be
(31:42):
accessible and get to heareveryone's story and see what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Excellent.
Say that number one more timefor us.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, 832-326-2793.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Amazing.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Hey Janine great talking withyou, as usual.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And thank you for being on our podcast.
Congratulations on the 2024national lpga teacher of the
year.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It's amazing congrats , that's huge thanks and
congratulations to you two onlaunching your podcast.
I mean, that's prettyimpressive, very exciting thank
you and I look forward to yournext visit.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
We hope you come back soon.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, invite me back, all right, good night, all
right, janine good night, Thankyou so much.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Thanks for joining episode two of the my Golf
Shorts podcast.
I am Darren and this is Noah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And we are out.
Thank you.
Welcome to the MyGolfSource podcast.
It's official.
It's episode two of theMyGolfSource podcast.
Welcome to the show.
I'm Darren, along with Noah.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Here we go, buddy.
Round two is coming up and wejust got done playing some
Simulator League.
We did how did you do?
I shot?
A little under par today, buddy.
How'd you do?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I shot a 46, hey you know what handicaps my whole
team struggled today it was.
It was a struggle, but but youknow what it was fun.
We drank a couple of beers.
We just hung out.
We had a lot of greatconversation and we played golf.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, we played golf at Torrey Pines, which isn't the
worst thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
One of my teammates said he's going to go home and
complain to his wife that he hada bad night at the simulator
league.
I said you're going to besleeping on the couch tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I was going to say how's that going to hold up?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah right, Not very well.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
She's like I'm home with the kids.
Uh, yeah, well, you know whatwe had a seven handicap, shoot
one under today, really, yeah,but you know what we're in like
fifth place.
I think you guys are in firstplace, so I don't really feel
bad for you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, we were in first place.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm not sure we are now yeah, yeah, yeah, the goal
is to catch up.
Yeah, here we go right.
Well, we promised some greatguests.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, we did and you didn't fall short.
You came through for us.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Hey, you know what I'm super excited for tonight,
and the guest that we're goingto have on is the 2024 National
LPGA Teacher of the Year, janineMurphy.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Welcome to the show, Janine.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hi guys.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hey Janine, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm good.
I'm good, I'm over here inMissouri.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Can you believe it?
So 8 o'clock here.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
10, 10.15 your time, yeah, you stayed up late for us,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I did Happy to.
That was one of my bestie golffriends.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Welcome.
It's a pleasure for me to meetyou.
I never met you when you werein town, I know.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'm glad to have you here with us now.
Well, thanks for the invite,guys.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, janine, we're super excited to have you.
Obviously, you're one of myclosest friends in the golf
industry.
We've known each other for whatfive, six years?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
at this point, I think we met in 2018 at a
proponent group summit.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh man, you got it down.
Yeah, we were in Dallas, Texas,if I recall, at the Cowboys
Golf Club.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
How fun is that.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, they had all those funny, those silly little
uh the helmets, but it was a.
It was a pretty special placeand we learned a lot together
and from uh what.
I remember you and I were bothlooking at our opportunities
elsewhere at the time and so wewere in an education together
and that's where we really gotto know each other on maybe our
value.
(03:25):
And you know, now you've kindof found your place in Missouri,
so I would love a littlebackstory for our guests to hear
about, kind of how you wentfrom Texas to Missouri.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, so it was, I guess 2021.
And I was just at a daily fee.
I'd been running my own academyfor about five years and the
only struggle I had is I was atthree locations and that was
really overwhelming to me.
It just it was getting hard.
So I just wanted to get back toone club, like well, why am I
(04:01):
limiting myself just to Houston,texas?
The United States is pretty bigand my husband works remotely,
so he's like just go out and seeif there's something out there
that'll fit.
And so I ended up here inMissouri and it turned out to be
a really nice private countryclub member owned we have a
(04:22):
little right around 400 golfingmembers.
And yeah, almost three yearslater, here I am.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, and Janine, you know, obviously you're not just
a golf professional, you arelike literally a player
development expert in my eyes,right Like I.
I love calling and talking withyou about you know what you're
doing, what you know.
You're doing what you know.
You're always doing the nextthing.
It seems like you're an earlyadopter and you were just at the
(04:48):
pga show.
Uh, obviously, you know gettingyour national award and again,
congratulations, that's justlike incredible um you know and
for me, it seems like I'm alwayslearning from you on what the
next thing is.
So can you tell us about thePGA show?
I didn't go this year,obviously with the golf garage
(05:11):
being open and I just wanted toknow what's the new thing,
what's the next best thing thatyou saw there and what are you
looking forward to in 2025?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Gosh.
A couple of things.
I'll start with technology.
So I'm an early adopter toSportsbox and I know you just
got connected with them.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
But Sportsbox so, yeah, tell us about it, though
Like I don't know if ourlisteners are going to know what
Sportsbox AI is.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So it's a tool for instructors.
You know they say the launchmonitor tells us the ball and
the club data.
Well, sports box shows us thebody data.
So it's going to show yourotation, it's going to show you
sway, it's going to show lift,it'll show thrust.
So it just gives you and that'sjust scratching the surface,
(06:03):
but it gives you a lot ofnumbers, wrist angles, um.
That really helps theinstructor find, like to me, I
call it the big red flag or thered herring, um, and it gets you
to improving quick.
And the other thing I like itas an instructor and a tool for
us is it helps me stay focused.
Like I know not to move on,like if your sway numbers are
off and I'm working on thatlateral movement.
I know not to move on Like ifyour sway numbers are off and
(06:25):
I'm working on that lateralmovement.
I know not to move on until Isee those numbers get in the
range that we're trying to getyou to, yeah, and so that really
keeps me on task where I think,as a younger instructor, I
might would have week one workedon this week too.
When I see I changed it and nowwe're going over here and like
(06:51):
it wasn't a clearly defined path.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So I like it's like that accountability aspect,
right, I mean it's like a you,you hit the nail on the head,
having a tool that allowssomeone to have an actual
assessment of their body whereyou can translate it to feel if
that makes sense.
I mean their body where you cantranslate it to feel if that
makes sense.
I mean when I watched you, whenyou came out, I mean so you came
out to golf garage a coupleweeks ago or I guess just before
the PGA show and I mean, yeah,you were a guest instructor and
(07:15):
you know I remember our friendBrian Jacobs showing us, or
talking to us at least aboutsports box early on.
I know you were talking to him,he was talking to me about it
and I was definitely weary.
And they have come so far withthis software that it's
literally within 1% of like thebest technology out there that
(07:38):
you would wear.
Is my understanding.
Is that pretty accurate?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, that is, and so at the PGA show they launched
the Sports Spark Studio thattraditionally you would have to
have all the high speed camerasin your studio.
It's on the phone now.
You can capture it on youriPhone or your iPad, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So our phones are literally like more powerful
than the Starship, right, I meanback in the day, because our
phones are just as good as thosehigh def cameras.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
And so all that data that was captured, we can.
We can now get it, and theyhave this awesome report.
Uh, that, uh, it would be anactual extra charge, but they
that you can do this report.
You'd hit like x number of ir.
So maybe you're hitting yourseven iron and then X number of
drivers and it just breaks downyour swing and shows you exactly
(08:29):
where you're inefficient, whereyou can get more efficient,
where you can build more speed.
Yeah, it's pretty impressive,yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
As an amateur.
How often do you find now, withall this technology, versus
before you were using thistechnology, that you find the
technology is guiding you in adifferent direction than what
you would have thought withoutthat technology?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
um, I definitely feel like I teach different when I
use it.
Yeah, I mean, I was just goingby what my eye could see and
then being able to put it insomething in slow motion and
slow it down, like we used tojust look at the swing in a
two-dimensional, but this putsyou in a three-dimensional and
then it gives you all thenumbers and you don't have to
(09:21):
wear sensors all over your bodylike the K-Vest, or if you had
the numbers and you don't haveto wear sensors all over your
body like the k vest, or if youhad the amm system.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
um, so it's pretty impressive what, uh, sportsbox
has been able to do and, um, Idon't know, I feel like it's
leapfrogged my instruction forthe private lesson side a lot so
, janine, like in simple terms,like to a you know, non, non
golfer or someone that's takenlessons this could be a scary
(09:48):
thought like this is technical,right, and I would say that when
you brought it to my attentionas another coach, it's more of.
This is such an amazing toolthat anyone that is on the app
can do this from their home,without hitting a golf ball in
(10:09):
the driving range, and learn abetter motion, a better golf
swing and we get this term a lotand I hear it all the time in
my assessments.
I want to be more consistent,right.
So yeah, darren's raising hishand in the studio.
It's like what's consistent?
Define that.
So now, what's so cool fromwhat I've found in Sportsbox is
(10:34):
that you now have this profilethat you send to your coach and
you can make these golf swingsliterally in your backyard and
then the coach can help them getbetter right then and there.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yes, and, like I said , I feel it's because it shows
you the 2D video but thentranslating that into 3D and you
can move that avatar.
So if I took you from a face onview but I want to see what
happened down the line with yourpath, I can move that avatar
and watch the club path and kindof it's like I had two cameras
(11:13):
on you at the same time.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So like if you were defining yeah, if you were
defining 2D and 3D right For ourlisteners, I mean, like 2D
would just be like a camera,essentially Just like a face on
that's what I see with my eyesand then 3D, you could literally
go over the top of their heador under the ground and see
every moving part right.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
That's correct.
Yes, so you can move around onall planes.
I'm not going to go through allof them, but you can look, like
you said, forward, back, fromunderneath, like you're under
their feet, from above theirhead, like you're a helicopter
behind their back, face on Fromthe target.
If you're standing on targetside and watching them hit at
(11:53):
you vantage points of the swing,that like I can't stand in
front of somebody when they'rehitting, but I can move their
avatar and kind of see somemovement and show them something
that I traditionally can't do.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Hey, noah, was this, this the technology you used on
me during that assessment acouple of weeks ago?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean you'd like to know right.
I mean yes.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh, you mean when I put you in front of all the
professionals?
Yes, yeah, it is you know whatit?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I was more intimidated being filmed than I
was being in front of 30 people.
And I have to say, when youshowed that avatar and broke
down my swing with this avataron there, that didn't look like
me.
It took that self-consciousaspect completely away and I
looked at my swing with acompletely subjective view,
(12:48):
without the biased view oflooking at myself.
You know what I mean.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That is actually great feedback, isn't it, Janine
?
It's like, here we go.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I mean, we got a golfer in front of us that has
an opportunity to break 80, sowe have, like, in the future
we're definitely going to bedoing some uh, some swing tweaks
and some tips with darren hereand our goal is to be like the
road to darren or whatever we'regoing to call it, but like yeah
, I mean he immediately gotbetter because of sportsbox AI
(13:20):
and the idea of breaking downone small aspect and finding the
root cause of the problem.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And being a big guy, I was always like, well, my back
, I'm not limber enough, my backswing's not far enough, my
elbows aren't in tight enough,my rotation isn't enough.
Looking at that avatar, I'mgoing, wow, in tight enough, my
rotation isn't enough.
Looking at that avatar, I'mgoing, wow, it is enough.
My swing actually doesn't lookthat bad.
Where I'm actually watching avideo of myself, I'm like, oh, I
(13:50):
look like crap and I'm thinkingabout the wrong things.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So, janine, next steps for you, right Like you're
an amazing coach.
You're an amazing person, rightlike you care about every
student.
I mean, that's that's how Iwould definitely describe you
just this amazing person thatjust continues to grow.
You're always on the forefrontof what's next.
You're bringing in somethingnew and exciting all the time.
(14:19):
You're getting educated all thetime, right?
So what at the PGA show stoodout?
You kind of mentioned thatthere was a training aid that
you bought.
But like what are the thingsthat are up and coming?
Because a PGA show is like theepitome of like everything new
and exciting in golf.
They always hold, always holdout for us right in January down
(14:41):
in Orlando.
So what did you find?
That was just awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
For me two new tools that I bought.
Uh, one already came in.
Uh, that is from super speedgolf.
I went ahead and bought theforce board pro, so it's very
similar to why golf's balanceboard so what is so?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
what weight shift, so weight shift, okay.
So if you, explained.
It is like a teeter-totterboard, essentially that you
stand on so why?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
golf is the teeter-totter board.
But super speed took thatconcept and then made it like
super uh, what would be a goodword to describe it Like I'm
going to say functional, butit's really versatile, that
might be a better word.
So it has these little holeslike pegs, like you had a
(15:29):
pegboard in your garage andyou're going to hang your tools
or something.
So it has these pegs and fromthe underneath you can put what
would make it teeter-totter andlift up the middle.
Well, because it's like apegboard, you could move that to
the back of the board and hitoff a downslope.
You could move it to the front,like your lead side, so now
you're hitting off an upslope,that's cool.
(15:50):
Then you could put it towardsthe balls of your feet, so
you're hitting on a downslope orupslope.
Then you could put it the otherway, so that you're hitting on
the downslope, so you can workon different slopes even though
you're in the studio.
And then obviously that canbecome drills for instructors.
And then with the pegs, theythey add these little force
(16:12):
puddles, like like we have forcepuddles that you could put
under the feet.
They have some of these, thatkind of stick in like a pegboard
, and so maybe I want it underyour trail heel so you can push
off of it, or maybe I want it onthe instep because you tend to
sway too much in your back.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So I want it to be on your instep to feel pressure it
sounds to me like this pegboardhas the opportunity to pretty
much fix any fault from like theground up.
Yeah, it's definitely for howthe players using the ground for
sure so what I really like, andthen the other thing yeah, go
(16:48):
ahead oh, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh, I was gonna say even as simple as like, maybe I
take off that thing that makesit teeter-totter and it has two
little yellow pegs.
So maybe I even have a brandnew golfer and they're trying to
learn stance with.
Well, I could put those pegs init, the yellow pegs.
So maybe I even have a brandnew golfer and they're trying to
learn stance width.
Well, I could put those pegs init, the yellow pegs, and say
this is where I want, like yourbig toes, to be, so that way
they're learning how wide theirstance should be.
Or maybe I'm changing aplayer's stance, maybe they've
(17:11):
been too wide and I need tonarrow them up, or the opposite.
So I mean, even for somethingsimple as a dress position, I
think it's going to be reallynice.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So you have an indoor facility in your club in
Missouri and I know it just gotrefinished.
You've got Foresight software,just like I do.
You know it's the best indooroutdoor in the biz.
So this training aid soundslike it could allow you to
simulate any lie out there.
(17:43):
Yeah, yes that's incredible Ineed to buy 10 of those right
now for my 10 base uh, it'spretty impressive and they had
obviously a nice pga special.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
They're probably still running it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Noah, I'm sure if you reached out to them I'm gonna
have, uh, I'm gonna have youhook me up with that, janine.
I think you've probably got abetter relationship with them at
this point, but uh, yeah, we'regonna be talking more about
that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
The force board pro is what it's called.
And then the only otherteaching aid I was overly
impressed with that was new tome.
My friend, lpga member TiffanyFawcett, developed the mirror
mat.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So I know I sent you a text.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So I was like I'm buying it, I'm sold.
So you know how we head offmats.
It's just turf and so it's thesize of like if you're on a
range, like a range mat.
But somehow she invented, cameup and found the right product.
It's a mirror, but you canstand on it.
You're not going to stand on itin dress shoes, but like a
tennis shoe, something with anice rubber bottom so you won't
(18:50):
slip, but it has enough flex andI forget what she said it's
made out of but it won't break.
And then, for where you hit thehitting strip is one of those
mats I forget what they'recalled but where you hit it and
it leaves the path and then youcan swipe it back the other
direction.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But where you hit it and it leaves the path and then
you can swipe it back the otherdirection.
Oh, that's amazing, you know,yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes and uh, well that .
And then she has these littlethings that you can extend out.
So she talks about how visible,even though people learn by
feel or like their their um,auditory but but she said 80 of
our learning comes from visualand so in her lesson she was
(19:34):
trying to make what she sees asthe instructor but the player
can't see it because she's likeeven if I put a camera over your
head to try to show you, Ican't, I don't have x-ray, I
can't make the camera see, likewhere your hands are hanging.
So she's like I'm gonna haveyou stand on a mirror and then
you can kind of see these thingsand see like when you're
putting hey, you're swaying alittle, you need to stay still,
(19:58):
or you know, when you'reswinging, some people move their
head with their upper body allat the same time.
You can work path.
If somebody's like maybe theirtakeaway, they bring it way
inside and the the clubs behindthem too early in their takeaway
.
So this extends like a runwaydown your target line with these
mirrors and the player can seethat club face position.
(20:19):
She put little two inch markersthe width of a club face and so
that way they can match up thetoe and heel If it's somebody
that needs to learn club facecontrol.
I mean, there's like so manycool things you can do with this
thing.
I'm barely scratching thesurface, but I was like I'm
getting it, so I'm waiting onthat to come in.
(20:39):
I hope it comes in next weekwell, janine, that's super
exciting since it's a mirror.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, it is an indoor tool, since it's a mirror,
obviously the sun would blindyou reflecting on that to it and
(21:05):
, as a you know instructor, thatis invaluable.
I mean, I think what we'retrying to do here is give some
sort of a feel to our studentthat they can replicate.
But, like you said, 80% oflearning is visual, so no one
that I've seen has createdanything like this.
I mean, we use cameras so muchthat sometimes we forget that
(21:30):
the mirror is one of the besttraining aids out there.
And for someone to put a mirrorthat allows you to look down
and see everything, and then youcan manipulate it to see the
club, your face, your head,that's just incredible to me
Instant feedback.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, it's real, real-time feedback and yeah, I
so I can't wait to get it in andstart working with the students
.
I mean, she was even talkingabout and I have one those
little convex, concave mirrorsthat you put behind a player on
the range, sure, but it doesdistort your view and so nothing
of hers is convex or concave,so like it's like like a
(22:10):
wardrobe mirror, you know how.
You just lean it against thewall at your house or something
and to check yourself out.
So these mirrors are justyou're seeing what you're really
doing.
And so when I tell my players,hey, you're still going inside,
and they're like, really, and Ishow them on the video, but now
they can actually see it intheir takeaway, watch the hand
path, or maybe they're watchingthe club head path.
(22:30):
I think that's going to enhanceand get them where we want them
to be even faster.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, absolutely so, janine, tell us a little bit
about what your plans are for2025.
I mean winning the NationalLPGA Teacher of the Year Awards,
winning the national LPGAteacher of the year awards, kind
of the yeah, I mean it's likethe creme de la creme um of our
profession.
And and in ladies, golfspecifically.
So, like, again, you travel andplay golf, you, you play golf,
(23:01):
you know, in pro-ams, you,you're out there teaching every
day.
You're growing the game fromgrassroots all the way up to um,
some of the best players in theworld.
So, like, what are you lookingforward to?
What are your goals here in2025, after you've already kind
of hit one of the apexes of yourcareer?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Oh man, I am so jazzed about 2025.
I just did five straight daysof education in Orlando, so I'm
pumped.
I've already revamped my springtraining program, so I'm really
excited to be bringing out somenew ideas for 2025 with my
members One of my.
The idea is something simple.
I haven't thought of thisbefore, but a putting league, a
(23:43):
four week putting league.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Like you have bowling leagues, like you're doing
simulator league.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like, let's lower your, your putting handicap, in
four weeks.
So there's like one drill thatyou would have the group work on
every week, but after they dothat as their warmup, then
you're doing whatever drillyou're working on, maybe it's
distance control, maybe it'sshort putt, you know whatever
but then their handicap loweringthat is going to be made based
(24:07):
off of that one drill that theydo every week.
And obviously, if you reallywant to lower it and get the
prize for the class, you'regoing to be out there practicing
even more.
So yeah, and then just, Ihaven't done any LPGA one-on-one
classes in a while, so I'mgoing to kind of sprinkle those
back in for the ladies and gosh,gosh, there's, there's.
(24:29):
There's like, oh, couplestherapy.
I got that from brian jacobs,so I'm gonna offer some couples
therapy classes.
Uh, one will be on full swing,one will be on short game, but
we'll meet at like we all.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
We all need.
We all need couples therapy.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yes, yeah and so yeah , and then they can go up to the
club and have dinner.
But I thought, brian, that's abrilliant idea.
Yeah, because how many of itthere's, the one of the players
is a little bit better a lot ofthe time and they can think
they're helping, but maybe it'sactually not helping and it's
maybe intimidating orfrustrating to the other golfer.
(25:05):
So how do we talk to each other?
And you know what I always lovein that situation, when you get
a golfer.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So how do we talk to each other?
And you know what I always lovein that situation when you get
a golfer, where either thehusband or the wife comes in and
one of them's a little bit moredominant and helping typically
the male right.
So, um, it's one of thosethings where you say, hey, tell
your significant other thatyou're paying X for this lesson
and it's going to cost you about10 times that much If you keep
(25:29):
helping me.
It works every time, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So those are just a few classes, but yeah, I came
away with a ton of fresh ideas.
I'm real excited to put thoseinto play.
Obviously, I can't start untilafter the time changes, so
probably in March, but that'sright around the corner and I've
decided to try to join the PGA.
So I've reached out to them tofind out what I have to do to
(25:56):
become a dual member and well,that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Are you kidding me?
You know how lucky we are tohave.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Jeez.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I'm like there's just I'm like I just need to expand
my network, you know, and I'mlike, why limit myself to just
the LPGA when I have theopportunity to meet so many
wonderful PGA members likeyourself?
So that's like I just need toget in there and do it.
Quit not doing it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Janine, what advice do you have for you know
enthusiast golfers who areintimidated to seek help.
They know they need help.
They're sick to death ofshooting in the high 90s, low
100s.
They want to get help butthey're scared to go in front of
a coach and say where do Ibegin?
(26:43):
What advice do you have forthem to encourage to seek
professional coaching?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well I would say, like Noah, like myself and other
pros, like we're we're justnormal people.
We're not going to laugh at you.
We're going to listen.
We're going to make sure wefind out what your goals are.
We're going to find out youknow just who you are as a
person, how you learn.
It's going to be a very easyprocess.
(27:09):
We're probably going to makeyou laugh and have a good time
along the way and get rid ofthat stage fright.
You can do it in a privatesetting.
Some people might do it betterin a group because they feel
like the eyes aren't on them theentire time.
So maybe that person might be abetter candidate for, like, a
small group of six training.
So find that beginner typeclass.
(27:30):
But some people are like, oh, Idon't want to be in a group.
So just know that that theprofessionals are there Like we
care about you and we want youto be successful and we're going
to do everything we can to makethat experience very
comfortable.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Even if it's just a quick 30 minutes Cause
everybody's yeah everybodystarts somewhere.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Oh yeah, everybody starts somewhere.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So we've talked a lot about this amazing, amazing
technology that's out there thathelps coaches be better coaches
, gives you more data andinformation to work from when
you're coaching.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Is there such thing as a training aid that people
can use on their own time,without the guidance of a coach,
that's going to help make thema better golfer?
I would say yes, something assimple as a rope.
So I think, noah, you have some.
I actually bought the one fromDr Kwan, I forget what it's
called.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You could YouTube Dr kwan rope drill and um it was.
Or you could go to home, or youcan go to home depot and get
one for about, you know, adollar I think it needs to be.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
He has a youtube video.
If you want to make your own,like how long it needs to be, I
want to say it's like seven ornine feet, um, and what type of
rope, like the diameter of it.
But, um, I just bought one fromhim because I didn't want to go
to home depot.
But yeah, just a rope drillwhere you're swinging it over
your trail shoulder and it kindof it will hit your back and
(29:01):
then you swing forward to yourfollow-through over your lead
side and it's going to hit yourback again.
But is it hitting kind of inthe same place?
It's not hitting over your heador hitting you in the ear, like
it should be.
Like I always tell women, likearound your bra strap, under
your armpits for guys, so youcould learn kind of just a basic
motion.
(29:22):
It's going to work on tempo.
It'll help you learn a swingplane.
Hopefully you'll start pickingup a weight shift with that.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So I would say that's a simple and a low cost
investment, janine you hit thenail on the head it's a three
quarter inch rope by seven feet.
I just looked it up online andthat's exactly it.
I didn't have mine in front ofme, but it is amazing.
You hit so many huge pointsthere from a coaching
(29:49):
perspective, and it'sinteresting to me, like if we
started from the putting strokeand move back, how much tempo
matters to a square clubface.
And a square clubface means Ihit it where I wanted to.
And when someone comes to meand says I want consistency, if
they look up and see the ball goin a direction they wanted to,
(30:10):
even if they topped it, they'regoing to be a lot happier than
if it went into the water or outof bounds.
So I think that that rope couldbe, you know, one of the best
investments we can make, and Ithink that might be a tip and
trick in the future here on thepodcast.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I mean, well, thanks, yeah, um, I just, I'm like for
a low cost investment, and ifyou don't even want to buy a set
of clubs but you want to seewhat golf is kind of like, swing
a rope, it's not that much, youknow, money involved, so you
may even have one laying aroundyour house, who knows?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Janine, it's been such a pleasure having you on
the show and you've been such anamazing resource to us, and
congratulations on all of youraccomplishments this year.
Do you have a website?
Do you have anything wherepeople can learn more about you
and what you do?
Kind of promote your business alittle bit?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Well, I kind of took my website down just because I'm
at a private country club.
But I mean, I'm always like mycell phone is available.
Anybody can text me at any time.
I don't mind giving it out.
So if y'all don't mind, I'llgive it out really quick.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Go for it 832.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
It's the Texas area code 832-326-2793.
And I'm like shoot me a text,maybe don't call too late.
But yeah, I respond to textpretty fast and I love chatting
with people and connecting withother professionals.
Um, tonight I actuallyconnected with another midwest
lpga professional for the firsttime, so I uh want to be
(31:42):
accessible and get to heareveryone's story and see what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Excellent.
Say that number one more timefor us.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, 832-326-2793.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Amazing.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Hey Janine great talking withyou, as usual.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And thank you for being on our podcast.
Congratulations on the 2024national lpga teacher of the
year.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It's amazing congrats , that's huge thanks and
congratulations to you two onlaunching your podcast.
I mean, that's prettyimpressive, very exciting thank
you and I look forward to yournext visit.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
We hope you come back soon.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, invite me back, all right, good night, all
right, janine good night, Thankyou so much.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Thanks for joining episode two of the my Golf
Shorts podcast.
I am Darren and this is Noah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And we are out.
Thank you.
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