June 17, 2025 • 51 mins
When golf and business converge, magic happens. This episode dives deep into that powerful intersection with special guest Adam Rutledge, owner of Rutledge Real Estate and a portfolio of successful businesses throughout Southern Oregon.
The conversation kicks off with hosts Darren and Noah discussing the recent US Open at Oakmont, marveling at JJ Spawn's game-changing 60-foot putt and the notoriously challenging course conditions that frustrated even the world's top players. They share their own recent golfing experiences before welcoming Adam to the show.
Adam offers fascinating insights into how he leverages golf to build authentic client relationships that drive his real estate business. "I make sure that I can take care of my clients and spend good time and build solid relationships and friendships with clients through golf," he explains. "That just helps secure business and create loyalty." His perspective on business ethics is equally compelling, as he shares stories about prioritizing client needs over commission checks – a philosophy that has earned him lasting loyalty and steady referrals.
The trio explores current real estate market trends in Southern Oregon, with Adam providing a detailed overview of golf communities in the region, from Eagle Point properties in the mid-$600,000s to exclusive Rogue Valley Country Club listings reaching $2 million. For golf enthusiasts considering relocation, Adam highlights Southern Oregon's impressive array of courses within an hour's drive, including several hidden gems.
Between business insights, the episode delivers plenty of laughs with stories of memorable mishaps on the course, from hitting balls backward to accidentally playing the wrong green. The conversation wraps with an exciting announcement of a new partnership offering Rutledge Real Estate clients a complimentary Golf Garage membership.
Whether you're a business professional looking to enhance your networking skills, a golf enthusiast considering a property near your favorite course, or simply someone who appreciates the value of authentic relationships, this episode offers valuable takeaways and entertaining stories. Connect with Adam at rutledgerealestate.com or by calling 541-SOLD to explore Southern Oregon's golf property opportunities.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the MyGolfSource podcast.
Welcome to MyGolfSource.
I'm Darren and I'm Noah.
Us Open just wrapped up.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, it did.
Did you watch that putt at theend?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I saw the replay of it because I kind of gave up
trying to watch it live becauseit was going to start then.
It wasn't going to start then.
It was going to start then not.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, we were here at the Golf Garage and we were
playing Op 36 match.
I missed it too, and I saw iton the replay.
It was a amazing putt, once ina lifetime game changer for JJ
spawn, 60 footer at Oakmont.
Have you ever been there?
I've never been there.
Um, we'll post a picture that Ihave from 2016, where I took my
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elite Academy to Oakmont.
Hardest course in the.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
U S from what everybody says man.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
there's two courses that stand out Quail Hollow and
Oakmont as the two biggest, mostdiabolical golf courses on tour
in my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So let's talk about Oakmont for a second.
It's a par 70?
.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
For the Open it's a par 70.
For the members, I believe it'sa par 72.
So they lengthen.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
For the Open it's a par 70 playing at close to 8,000
yards.
Yeah, it's out there, that'snuts 300-yard, par 3, 301.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Longest in US Open history.
It beat its old record by ayard.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Then didn't they do they have like a 475-yard par 5?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
5-0-5.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think they have a couple of those usually yeah
yeah, short wedges Like yeahWedges in for number two on a
par five.
Yeah, probably you're a lot ofwhite shambo, seriously.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, what was crazy?
Was just Bryson make the cut?
Yes, no, no, did he miss it?
I think Rory barely.
Rory made it on the line barely, and then Bryson did not yeah,
uh, but did you see the angerissues that they all had?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
a little bit just, it was probably the coolest thing
to watch how frustrated theywere getting, because that would
be like your average golferplaying like eagle point well,
they get on these wicked fastgreens rolling at like a 14 and
then it starts raining and thenit's slow, super slow, and it's
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kind of hard to adapt to that soquickly well, and the greens
are running at 13 or whatever usopen speed and then once they
get soft, they're still firmunderneath and they're just
ripping back.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
So with the slopes and the speed they're at, it's
literally just you would thinkthey could attack the pins, but
they can't because they'reSunday pins.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
No, they'd hit such a great ball near the back of the
green at a backup.
You know it looks like it'sgoing right at the pin and then
roll off the front of the green.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
And then wait, then 30 yards down the approach.
You know, I was kind of hopingthere would be a playoff because
I don't know if you know thisbut in the U S open you have an
18 hole playoff the next day.
So back when tiger beat, uh, ohgosh, why is Rory?
It's not Rory.
Um, oh good, at uh, torreyPines he had an 18 hole playoff
when, right before he had kneesurgery and they went like
additional holes after that.
So, like playoffs are so fun inthe open, it's one of the only
ones you have to play the nextday tiger one, of course he did
(03:31):
good.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that was 2008 when was the last major tiger
one?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
masters in oh boy 2017, no 20 shoot 2021.
I should know this.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I'm alive.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I don't, but it was the masters.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay, and it was fairly recent.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, it wasn't too long ago.
I feel like it was within thelast five years.
Chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Come on now.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I know I'm looking it up.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
When was it?
When was it?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Masters, tiger woods.
Uh yeah, I'll come back to youon that one, but uh no, I the us
opens one of my favorite events.
It's so challenging and thegolf courses are set up um the
most brutal of any major, so Ijust think it's so cool.
I mean, augusta, we know whatthat looks like it's ever
changing if they do something tothe course, but it's nothing
(04:20):
crazy.
And then you get to PGAChampionship and you know it's
going to be difficult, but yetagain it's nowhere near what the
US Open is.
And the British Open isrelative because those golf
courses aren't necessarily longover there, like they're not
going to make St Andrews anylonger, but it's all about the
weather.
(04:40):
So it's about what you get andthe conditions you get to play
in and the wind, yeah, the windover there is nuts.
Oh, masters tiger woods notplaying in 2025.
Well, chat, GPT didn't help me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Not working out well for you huh.
I introduced you to chat GPTlike a month ago.
I think I was life changing.
He was in love, he was like any.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Anything I send to you from now on that's business
related goes through chat gptfirst.
It's my editor.
I might have to change one ortwo things.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So, speaking of we you got us set up to play um
rogue valley country club onfriday.
That was fun it was fun.
You play good I played betterthan I did the week before at
Shasta Lake Resort.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
What was different about it?
The lesson I gave you.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, the course was more open, a little less hilly a
lot less hilly, the viewsthough, at Lake Shasta are
incredible, or Mount ShastaResort on that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Mount Shasta Resort has cliffs that your ball goes
down and then you lose your ballforever.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And trees that are as big around as your car.
Isn't that why you bought theKirkland balls?
I did, and I bought four dozenand I think I went through at
least two dozen of them.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, and they're a third of the price.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So we still thought from our A quarter of the price.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, no, so Quarter of the price?
Well, no, so they must haveheard our podcast, because I
went in there.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They were $26.99 a dozen, so now they're only half
off at our Costco.
$26.99 for two dozen.
Costco doesn't sell anything bythe dozen.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I'll take your word for it.
I didn't touch them.
I walked by and I was likeDarren was wrong $26.99 for two
dozen.
That's a quarter of the priceIn 2019,.
Tiger Woods won the MastersTournament at Augusta National,
marking his 15th majorchampionship.
I knew it was close More thanfive and a half years.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
How's business?
It's actually going really well.
I'm surprised how busy it is,considering it's been between
like 80 and 90 degrees, which ispretty good golf weather it's
been like in the seventies, thisweek, yeah, that's five, six
days, father's day bays werebooming, and even recently, I
feel like we're like 50% fullmost days, which, talking to a
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lot of friends that have similarfacilities um, as far as number
of bays go, you know, they'renot that busy in the summer.
So I think we're doing theright thing.
Our player development's aboutto take off, and what's cool
about it is we can do it yearround.
So I think this is just kind ofthe start of what's going to be
great, and we are.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
We have proven the burger concept Told you that
Smash burgers are off the charts?
Yeah, yeah, charts, yeah yeahthey're.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I usually try to eat at least one a day.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
When he's here, maybe two they need to put two buns
for one smash burger though,yeah, we actually get those buns
special um from a provider.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
They're very difficult to get.
You can't get them locally andum chef chasen tested a bunch of
stuff and just said these arethe ones.
So now I'm really happy withhim.
So we're gonna actually do abuild out.
We're um getting everything bidon right now.
Equipment um just got theelectrical looked at and I'm
hopeful that you know, in themiddle of august to early
(07:59):
september the latest we havefull-time smash burgers at the
turn.
Eat at the turn is what chSpackshirter said yeah, I love
it.
It's awesome Um, and then sushiis the next step.
So just trying to grind.
Never thought there'd be a foodin the golf garage, didn't
really necessarily think Iwanted it, but it's a necessary
and we're bringing in a lot ofnew golfers because of the food.
(08:21):
So excellent, excellent, who'sour guest today?
So today we're really, reallyfortunate to have um, one of the
best realtors I know andbusiness people for that matter
in Southern Oregon.
It's obviously a friend of bothof ours and um.
He's also a student and amember at the golf garage, so I
(08:43):
thought it was only you know.
It was probably a good time todo it because he called in for a
question.
Let's back up, right.
Oh, that was like a couple ofmonths ago he called in for us,
and so it was one of those where, after we answered the question
, I kind of thought you knowwhat?
It'd be really fun to bringsomebody on the show.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He says I hit my driver way too good.
Good, what can I do to be worseand not not embarrass my
friends?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
yes, well, actually I just fit him for a club.
So, uh, I'd like to introduceyou to adam rutledge, the owner
of rutledge real estate, and healso, uh, I think you have a
side business of building housesand like five other llcs, yeah,
yeah we got.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We got a handful of things going on.
That's awesome.
So you have a side business ofbuilding houses and like five
other LLCs.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, we got.
We got a handful of thingsgoing on.
That's awesome.
So you have, you know you, youbuy and sell real estate,
represent buyers and sellers.
You build your own properties,yep, and you buy properties for
investment, both commercial andresidential.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, and then we've got the property management
division as well as the gym at45 at 45.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Is that a franchise?
Yeah, and it's not just afranchise, like that place is
hopping all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
How do you play golf?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Golf garage.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Sometimes it's 20 minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know I can pop in .
I don't have to deal with teatimes or meeting anybody, so
that makes it super convenient.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Hammer out nine holes in 40 minutes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah.
I uh have been starting to workon my game a little bit, and
it's not about, you know, athree hour run at hitting a
thousand balls till you getblisters on your hands, but just
doing it daily, consistently,and so I'm able to do that.
Just, I keep my clubs in mytruck.
If I have a free half hour, Ipop in, hit some balls and then
keep going in my truck.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
If I have a free half hour, I pop in, hit some balls
and then keep going.
Yeah, it's awesome.
I would just say that let's goback to how we met, because when
we were teaching up at thecountry club, you were a member
up there at the time and a fewof your friends had taken some
lessons from me, and I don'tactually remember I think it was
Ryan Girodat, maybe thatactually made the intro, or or
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Mike Eastman, one of the two,but they're all taking lessons.
And then, you know, here comesAdam and you know it was all
about the driver.
It was all about that I can'tget my driver airborne and I
used to hit it good, but then Igot this other driver and I
broke that one and they gave me.
They gave me this shaft up atthe country club and like
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there's all these things goingthrough and I'm just like, all
right, cool, what well, tell mea little about yourself.
Well, I played baseball, I grewup here and I used to own coffee
shops and I did this and I'mjust like holy cow, dude, you do
a lot Like you are like me andyou're on steroids at some level
and you're a lot better looking, of course.
But oddly enough, I think ittook about six months and we got
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you hitting some butter cuts,we cut down the driver and all
of a sudden it clicked and I'mlike you need to feel this.
I'm like I don't I can't tellyou what to feel, but just feel
this, adam and all of a sudden Ithink I was just really hard on
you and you just startedgrinding on it and that was such
a fun day.
I'll never forget it.
It was in the original garageat my house, oh yeah, and you
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were hitting them out there 270and you didn't even need like,
you didn't need a driver firstof all.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right, yeah, do you remember to play in a tournament
with me a couple of years agoand he shows up to the
tournament, throws his golf bagon the back of the cart.
We drive out to the first holeand I'm going, dude, where's
your driver?
He's, like Noah said, Icouldn't bring it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I'm like dude, we have to use three of your drives
.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What are you going to hit?
And he gets out this two ironand he just smacks the crud out
of this two iron.
There's so much to say rightnow, so hold on a second.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Back up.
I think I've mentioned thisstory on the podcast, maybe
after Adam called in, but thefirst time we played golf
together.
There's two reasons for this,but the first time we played
golf together he's 160 yards outat the club, on hole number one
, and he grabs the pitchingwedge.
I'm like, yeah, okay, is thatenough?
Club the dude hits it over theroad on the fly 200 yards At 160
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yards yeah.
So I'm just like, oh okay, soif that's the case, then your
7-iron is going to go about 210.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And the guys in our group at the time.
Couldn't you need a bag full ofwedges?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, exactly the guys in our group at the time
could not hit it over 200 yardswith driver.
So I just told him.
On the third hole I said, hey,hit seven iron.
Your goal is to out drive theseguys the entire round.
How do you think that's goingto make them feel?
And sure enough, first drivepound seven iron out drives
their drives.
So I'm like, there you go.
That's your new club until youcan learn to move up.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It was awesome yeah, and I've kind of vacillated
since got good at driver andthen had a baby, didn't golf as
much, so now I'm back needingyour help to remember how to hit
the driver again.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And it's funny how it works when you're hitting your
driver.
Well, you suck with your wedges.
Yeah, when you're chipping andputting good and hitting your
short irons Well.
Your woods are just out ofcommission.
It's kind of hard to bring itall together.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, isn't that?
No, like the, the driver,you're swinging up, and then
your irons, you're swinging down.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So I've I found that to be true.
Yeah, I would just say that thebiggest difference is you have
a ball teed up with the driver,right.
So tour players ultimately hit adegree and a half down on
driver, but your average golferis hitting up on it.
Long drive guys try to hit upon it.
So it's neither here nor there.
I just think trying to getsomebody to do something the
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same right.
When somebody says I want to bemore consistent on the golf
course, or if you said, hey, Iwant to hit my driver more
consistent, I would literallyjust say, okay, define
consistency.
And then there's a pausebecause they weren't expecting
the question.
They just thought that I knewwhat consistent meant.
I have no clue what it means ina player's eyes.
It might just mean that I wantto hit one out of 10 up in the
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air.
It might mean that I wanteverything to be a butter cut
down the middle.
I don't know Right.
So there's a.
There's a lot to it.
Once you find out what they'reafter, then you can help them
get there.
I think that's a lot in thesame business too, like you're
creating goals for somebody andthen my job is to keep you
accountable after that.
Pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I found the quality of the questions you ask has
everything to do with it.
Like to your point, what?
What?
People tell me all the timethey want a good deal.
Well, what's a good deal to you?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
a quick closing.
Is it a view?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Is it a low price per square foot?
Is it a good neighborhood beingin, you know, being affordable,
where you're comfortable withthe payment and getting what you
want all at the same time?
Yeah, it's all about thequestions.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, no, that's really good and congratulations.
I've been noticing that theInstagram's been blowing up with
all these closes from yourproperty group recently.
You've been getting after itand a lot of things on the
market again.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, yeah, we finally got it turned on.
First quarter was a little slow, not anymore.
We're going to do an entireyear's worth of business in the
next like three months.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's awesome, Congrats man, where do you see
the market going in the nextthree years?
Staying hot.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
We're starting to see inventory stack up here locally
, especially over a millionbucks.
So it's been flat Nationally.
I think it's gone up 4% a yearsince 22.
We're selling houses in 2025for the same price we sold them
in 2022 here, so I think it'sgoing to remain flat.
2022 was nuts.
Yeah, that was.
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That was bonkers Bidding wars.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And so people were overpaying 30,000 over asking
price on the first offer Been onthe market for two hours, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, darren's just having a heyday shooting
everything, and again and again.
So yeah, that's what I thinkflat.
The market probably can't godown much because the cost of
construction has continued toincrease and we still don't.
We're not building enough forthe demand.
So you've got this weird placewhere it's expensive to buy but
it's more expensive to build andyou don't want to rent because
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your landlord 78% of landlordsare going to raise rent this
year and every year.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So yeah, just how much can you raise your rent in
this state?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
uh, in this state it's maxed at 10 every year,
every year but you start doingthat you do the math on that,
you're 1800.
I mean that's not bad on thepart of the owner.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, no, I mean, we rarely raise it that much.
What is it in california, doyou know?
Is it capped at like three orfour percent?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
or you know, I don't know what rent control is in
california.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I think it's when you paying $8,000 a month rent for
a 1200 square foot house.
10% a year is a lot of money,yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
My brother's in New York city and the co-op fees and
everything else.
It's more than a lot ofmortgages and you're living in a
dungeon.
It's crazy.
I don't know Well that that'sexciting.
And are people buying on golfcourses?
Because I know you just soldone out on 16 at Eagle Point?
Yeah, I believe, and I know youdo a lot out at Eagle Point.
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Is that kind of theup-and-coming area, do you think
in Southern Oregon, or is theresome other stuff you're seeing?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think it has been for a few years.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, gosh, we sold 50 new builds in Eagle Point
over the past couple years, atouch more affordable than like
Medford proper and with theexpressway going in, you know
the commute got cut by 10minutes, so it's really not that
far out anymore.
And yeah, golf courses arealways in high demand.
You know we got people thatwant to be on water, so rivers,
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lakes, golf courses.
They want something that isdifferent from, like, your
standard.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Right, something exciting when you have something
pretty out your back out, yourbackyard view, where they're not
going to be building morehouses.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, Interesting.
I read an article in the wallstreet journal a couple of weeks
ago I think it was wall streetjournal and there's a higher
instance of Parkinson's andother types of cancer for people
that live on a golf course.
You know, cause all thechemicals they use to keep the
grass green.
So depending on how thosestudies come out, that may
change how many people reallywant to.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So that's interesting .
My best friend is asuperintendent at the country
club and what's odd about thatis the chemicals have changed a
ton.
So we've talked about this a lotand ultimately, I think the
Golf Course SuperintendentAssociation and all those other
bad chemical companies and allthat stuff are probably going to
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come in and squash that prettyquick, which will probably help
your cause too, because most ofthe things dissolve.
People don't realize whatthey're using and how soluble
they are.
And again, I don't want to getinto that, that's not my
specialty, but I was alwaysnervous about that, just because
my wife has a lot of foodallergies and she wanted organic
garden, and so we do all thesethings to try to make it nice,
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and then I'm putting, you know,herbicides down on my grass,
which is 10 feet away, and allthis stuff, and it's like, end
of the day, it's getting wateredin, it's going to dissolve into
that soil anyway.
I mean, it's just over time.
If you're spraying Roundupnonstop, yeah, that's totally
different.
I mean that's, those are.
Those are some harsh things,pesticides, stuff like that.
But yeah, I'd be curious to seethat report when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You know it's funny.
I have four young kids who playaround in the yard and I wanted
to kill my entire backyard so Iused roundup weeds to grow back
.
I'm like, okay, I don't want toput this chemical down anymore.
So I went out and I bought afreaking flamethrower.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Sportster backyard.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And it's talk about satisfying.
It's as satisfying as pressurewashing.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It was amazing.
You could have just taken, youknow, got some gasoline and lit
a match.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Dude, I have a, karen , who lives on the other side of
the fence in my backyard.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Define that.
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's not a burn day.
I'm like shut up, woman.
I'm not burning a burn perilhere, I'm just burning weeds.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So thinking of golf houses, real estate business,
how does that all tie together?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Because I think I know why I built Golf Garage but
I'll share with that later.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You know, for me, I make sure that I can take care
of my clients and spend goodtime and build solid
relationships and friendshipswith clients through golf, and
that just helps secure businessand create loyalty and keep
those relationships strong.
I've also met several newclients, picked up many new
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clients on the golf coursebefore, and so it's a great
place to get to know people.
It's a great place to get toknow people.
We were talking about takingpeople out for job interviews
onto the golf course.
You get to know their character.
You get to know theirtemperament.
You get to know how they areunder pressure, Even if they're
a bad golfer.
You get to know how they handletheir liquor if that's
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applicable in your golf game,it's just a place to kind of
allow people to be unfilteredwith each other adam you, you
and I played in a lot of charitytournaments together and shot
all-time record low scores thisyear I think we shot in the 40s
and scrambles twice, like youuse it mulligans, yeah, and the
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one of them the other one waswas 40 bucks a pop.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Not a problem, no, done.
But what do you think like, whydo you use it?
Because you're sponsoringeverything you know.
Obviously it's nice to get yourname out there, but, like, what
do you see as the main driverfor you in golf?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Good question.
So sponsoring a lot of that issupporting the causes.
I'm on multiple boards ofdirectors and so there's an
expectation that you donate.
And then, in that you know,there's the networking component
and, to Darren's point, youlearn a lot about people and the
.
The golf community is a goodone to be involved with because
typically if you have the timeand the and the resources to
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golf, you're, you're kind of ourtarget audience.
Yeah, yeah, you know you canafford to buy and sell and yeah,
and we just found that it'sit's a good community to be
involved in for multiple reasons.
Plus, it's fun.
You know, it's like if you'regoing to spend money, you might
as well spend money in somethingyou want to be involved with,
and so it makes sense for me tosponsor a golf tournament and
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then get to play in it and then,with Noah on the team, we get
to win them.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And for business-to-business
partnerships.
You know somebody's outspending time on the golf course
and they can afford to do that.
Their business is stable, theirbusiness is successful and
they're doing the importantthing of making time for
themselves.
That means they're not going toget too burnt out on their
business and they're going to bearound for a while to work with
you.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, and they've got a business that can sustain
without them being involved 24seven.
So it's actually a business asopposed to like a job.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Without, without question.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I struggle with that, though.
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I think we all do.
I mean, ultimately, as owners,you're only going to you're
going to be the best at what youdo and you're trying to create
other people to care about it asmuch as you do.
I think that's the mostdifficult part.
But you know, like when youlook back at like the golf side
of all of this, it's all aboutbuilding relationships right so
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you're trying to figure out, hey, should we invite this person
over for dinner?
Right, that's probably whatwould happen, right, 100%.
So you're trying to figure out,hey, should we invite this
person over for dinner?
Right, that's probably whatwould happen, you know, whatever
, but golf's been around sincethe 1400s plus, right, and it's
always been a gentleman's game,so to speak, and you can say a
ladies right, ladies andgentlemen, and so you know, my
rule of golf garage is be nice.
We've talked about that andthere's all these 40 pages to be
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nice on the back end on thewebsite and how to be nice.
But you're ultimately trying tofigure out how to create these
relationships, build yournetwork up, and I would just say
life in general is about therelationships you build anyway.
So it just goes hand in handand allows you to be successful.
And when somebody has somethingthey can talk about with you
and it's something similar likegolf, because you're both on the
course it just makes it thatmuch easier to let your guard
down and maybe have arelationship sooner than you
would If you went to a meetingin a boardroom.
You don't know anything aboutthat person, um, and I think
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that's kind of the whole point.
It's kind of the same idea oflike if you go to a restaurant
you order an appetizer to share,because that feeling of eating
off the same plate builds thatinstant bond with somebody and
helps you build the relationshipfaster.
Golf does that in the same way.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Absolutely and take it one more step.
Instead of with clients,potential clients or business
partners um or employeeretention, you know, take your
employees.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, it's like memberships, right?
I mean, we do a corporatemembership at the golf garage
for a reason and we make somepretty awesome deals for bigger
businesses.
Or if a like I had the nursesassociation come out and we had
150 nurses from Providence andRogue Valley medical center here
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.
So I just had a text with themtoday and we were talking about
how do we collaborate, what dowe need to do to get more of
them in that are non golfers,like what do you think the
discount needs to be?
So all I need to do is say, hey, buy one membership and now,
because you're a member, let'sfigure out how to be.
So all I need to do is say, hey, buy one membership and now,
because you're a member, let'sfigure out how to collaborate so
your counterparts can come intothe golf garage, use the space,
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become golfers, they join.
For me, as a business person,it's it's a no brainer, but from
a standpoint of growing thegame of golf, it's just like
invaluable to be able to createthose bigger partnerships.
And we're in a small community,but we have everything in
Medford that most other placeshave in general, and I think
that there's a lot of smallbusiness.
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So we have to pull together andwork together and collaborate
in order for everyone to besuccessful.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So Adam sells real estate, a lot of which is on
golf courses.
You own the golf garage.
How many people do we seespending time at the golf garage
that Adam can network, that youcan network with, that you can
gain business from that?
Currently live on a golf coursethat might at some point want
to sell their house?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
No, so that's good and I'll let Adam speak on this
in just a second, but Adam is.
I want to talk about Adam for asecond.
So when I was building golfgarage, adam was my realtor, and
this is the kind of guy he is.
The person that I worked withon the project was also a
realtor.
He was able to get me a betterdeal on the property commercial
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space, mind you like a goodchunk of change for any realtor.
And because of that, adamstepped away and actually said
you need to work with himbecause it's going to save you
money.
We didn't have a contract at thetime, but it wasn't the point.
I would have stuck with Adam nomatter what, and so because of
that, I'm going to send Adam asmuch business as I can, and I
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have sent him some business thatyou know.
That's the goal, right.
So anybody that does somethinglike that is the kind of person
I will always work with, and Ithink that's kind of the whole
point of what we're talkingabout is those relationships and
what are you willing tosacrifice?
He never had intention that Iwas going to give him anything
in return for that, but becauseof that, he was the first person
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I thought of when I had astudent and, um, you know, knew
that they were in commercial andthey were looking for something
, and I said, hold on a second,I've got the guy for you and you
closed.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
That was an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I wrote that offer at a cabin in the snow on
Christmas Eve.
I remember, oh my gosh.
But yeah, to Noah's point.
So you know I'm here for a longtime.
You know not, not here to tomake a killing off any single
person.
So then, when you you know, inbusiness in general, when you
have, you're taking the longapproach.
You want to do the right thingfor people, even if there's a
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sacrifice in the short term,because that's that's how you
build a back.
Yeah, it's how you build arelationship, you know, just
like that's how you get to knowsomeone when you're golfing, if
you're spending four hours, fivehours with someone, you learn a
lot.
Or when, when a deal comes upand it's like, dude, you're
going to be better off withoutme in this transaction because
I'm unnecessary, you know.
And that's better for Noah.
(28:46):
And yeah, never expectinganything, but yeah, it's
definitely had a good return.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You just earned a whole lot of respect and loyalty
.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, just doing the right thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And I'll say, in our interactions I get to.
I have the very uniqueperspective of hearing realtors
interact with their clients.
Yeah, you do, and Adam'sapproach is not a salesman type
approach, it's a friendship typeapproach where you just have an
honest conversation andsometimes those conversations
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are not the easiestconversations to have Amen to
that.
But you have the guts and you doit.
And being an owner of a largerbrokerage, where you have, you
know you have a team of wellover a dozen people showing up
to a property and seeing theowner of the brokerage in there
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with the mopping floors andcleaning counters and wiping
down windows and flushingtoilets.
You know it goes a long way tosee that example being set.
Where I don't see that, I havea handful of clients who are
really good at that, but I wouldsay the majority do not.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, that's interesting.
You know I try to do.
Does it make sense?
Right, so we can.
I could be a pain in the buttand say, hey, we need to
reschedule Darren and we need toget a cleaner out here to wipe
this up.
But here I am able bodied, youknow, I'm above nothing.
So, yeah, if I need to scrubthe toilet so Darren can get his
job done and I can get my jobdone and we save the seller time
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, Then we just do it.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
And make them more money.
Because it's a proven fact thathouses will sell for more money
when they're presented betterRight.
Houses will sell for more moneywhen they're presented better
right 100 and if a house sellsin 60 days for 35 000 less than
what it would have sold, youknow, when you put in 1500 a
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work and a little bit of elbowgrease I mean the the amount of
money that that cuts off of yourcommission is insignificant.
But the amount of money thatcuts out of what the homeowner
puts in their pocket at the endof the transaction is huge.
And being able to just do thatlittle bit of extra work to do
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right by that homeowner is iscommendable and and important.
And that's what's going to gain, you know gain loyalty.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, yeah.
So, going back to you know, ourmembership and what Adam was
saying earlier is that, you know, golf does have a different
socioeconomic um, you know, as agolf pro, I'm trying to break
that barrier, right, I wanteveryone to learn the game.
I think that's really important.
But ultimately, at the end ofthe day, from a business
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perspective, when you look atour membership class, um, many
of them are multi homeowners,right, so they have their
vacation or whatever, and theyhave another club right or
whatever that looks like forthem.
They've sold a business or theyhave, you know, been business
owners at multiple businesses,right, and I think that, at the
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end of the day, real estate isone of those investments that
will always continue to grow, nomatter where you're at right.
The dirt doesn't get cheaper,we know that, and it's Adam's
job to find the right fit forthat person.
And so what I love about it andwhy I've never, ever thought
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twice about anybody going to you, adam or I have a couple other
friends too, but, like,ultimately it's because I know
that you're going to find outwhat's best for them, and that's
the number one thing for me,because if I refer someone to
you, that looks bad on me ifthat wasn't a good relationship
(32:38):
too, and so it's always going tobe one of those things.
I mean, we had that, thatfamily in here the other day and
you went right up to them andstarted talking to them randomly
.
You know, mom was in here andyou were, and you were saying hi
and stuff, and I think thatit's just one of those things
that how much business will theysend to you now, even though
you don't even know it.
That's the craziest part, likewhen I build a new golfer.
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I don't know what that's goingto create in the golf industry
as a whole.
That could be $500,000 over thecourse of their lifetime.
That could be $2 million.
I don't like if they buy ahouse at a club.
Right, that's a $1.5 millioninvestment to $2 million
investment, plus 250,000initiation, plus, plus, plus at
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a high end.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
How much was that Right right?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
right, right.
So let's say 3 million off thebat if they're at a high end
private down in Palm Springs orFlorida.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Right, you come here right.
That could be, though, like thedifferentiator at certain clubs
of if they're profitable or not.
So it's really cool to say thatthe golf industry drives so
much more than just the golfindustry.
It's driving a global economyat a lot of levels, and people
that don't play golf they wishthey did play golf a lot of them
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.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
And the reality is is when you work in a stressful
job.
Like you know, most successfulrealtors have go through their
fair share of stress and longdays, long hours.
You know a lot of interestingand challenging dynamics with
people.
Golf is a place to kind ofunwind and let go.
I'll get away from it for alittle while and kind of
(34:13):
recharge.
And I think that goes to sayyou know that.
I know it certainly works in mybusiness.
It's important because I needto get away, I need to just stop
.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I'm not going to lie.
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
It's in a totally different world.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
What do you do to get away from work?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I love golf.
So I'm going to Tennesseetomorrow and we'll talk about
that later.
But what are you going to do inTennessee?
Family reunion and I'm going tosay this because everyone asks
the question.
I do not have family inTennessee, so my, my, my aunts
and my uncles have always putfamily reunions together every
year and it's in a differentplace in the country, usually
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East coast, so it goes round.
Robin, my dad's side's likeseven, you know, seven fold.
So I wanted my kids to meet allof the extended family before
these family reunions stop,which will probably happen the
next couple of years.
So we're going to Nashville,going south a little bit, and
we're going to tour Jack DanielsI'm excited about that I was
going to just ask you what thingare you looking forward to the
(35:13):
most?
I'm excited about that.
I don't even drink Jack DanielsLike I'm just well, maybe, oh
yeah, yeah, I'm just well maybe.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm excited forthe tour.
I've never actually done anysort of a whiskey tour and it's
a family-friendly tour, so likemy kids can go too, which is
kind of odd.
And then, um, it's at a statepark, there's a golf course.
I'm going to rent clubs.
I'm going to try playing golfwith rental clubs.
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It's gonna be awesome.
Um, and then, uh, go toNashville for a couple days and
just kind of see the sights.
And for christmas my mom saidshe was going to watch the kids
so kimberly and I could have adate night in nashville.
Because I don't, we don't doget like, we don't need gifts
anymore, it's like this justhang out.
But this will be a vacation,ish.
(35:55):
But the real vacation isnovember.
I'm going out of the country tomexico first time, to Mexico,
where and this will be you knowwhat I can't tell you it's
Cancun, somewhere.
My wife found the resort.
We're going with four otherfriends that have kids that are
the same age, and that's whereit's at yeah.
East coast.
Yeah, you've been there.
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A bunch of Adam right, yeah, ohyeah, do you like Mexico?
I love Mexico.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, real estate in Mexico coast, west coast.
Yeah, we've.
We've done both, both sides,you know, the Gulf side and the
Pacific side.
I've never been to Hawaiithough Me neither.
And then people tell me don'tgo to Hawaii, it's too expensive
.
I'm like all right, well.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Dominican oh savage.
When I lived in SouthernCalifornia, we'd do a lot of
shopping.
We'd go to Tijuana to buyliquor.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
No, you go get some fish tacos.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And steroids.
That too, yeah, we didn't dothat.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
What are steroids?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Got the little picture of the horse on them.
You know those are the goodones.
This is okay, let's go.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Wait, wait, wait, what I was trying to say earlier
yeah, exactly what I was tryingto say earlier is if you want a
good time on the golf course,you get adam rutledge on your
team.
I have never laughed so hard inmy life, and then probably
there's been three journalists.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
No steve first might give him a run for his money
when I was was playing withSteve.
When I was playing with Steve,he shanked his driver hard to
the left and pounded this deerright in the back of his head.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I beg to differ.
Happy Gilmore did that no morethan an hour ago, sir.
So here's the deal, becausethat movie's coming out soon,
hey, so Adam throws his ball onthe tee box when he has an iron
in hand.
Everyone else has got driver,the rows it on there, no tea,
and just fricking hits it two 30down the middle Like it's the
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strangest thing I've ever seen.
So that's funny.
But the funnier thing was thishas happened twice Now, once the
Eagle point and a scramble, andI don't remember the other
course where he straight hammersa ball, I mean swings out of
his tail and the ball goesbackwards.
Yeah, we still need to lookinto the physics of that.
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I've never in my life seenanything like it, where it goes
up and backwards and then spins.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
That's weird.
Yeah, at the country club lastweek we were playing hole 16,
par five.
I couldn't tell from the teebox whether it was a dog leg
left or a dog leg right, and Ithought it was a dog leg right.
So I hit my ball way out to theleft.
I go to my ball.
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I can't see the actual green.
I see a green and I get myrange finder.
I'm 276 yards out from a dude'scart who's parked on the cart
path in front of the green.
And then there was a bunker andthen there was a green.
So the green was probably about280 285 out.
And my son says, oh yeah,there's the green.
(39:00):
Do you want to wait till theyclear?
And I'm like, yeah, right, Ican't reach them.
I grab my three wood and I hitit out there.
I fly the cart, I hit the backof the green side bunker and
tick these people off a littlebit.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I played up on them.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Best three wood I've ever hit in my life.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
It's called 86th.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
And then I'm stoked other than the fact that I think
these people are going to beupset that I played up on these
people.
And then Logan drives by andsays you idiot, that's not the
green you're going for.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh wait, what Did you go for?
All two?
Yeah, and I made it.
Nice.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Good man.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Did you hit your shot ?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
off two to 16 to 16.
No, I picked up my ball like alittle coward well, and took a
drop where my son was that'sreally smart.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
The rules of golf do not allow that, sir.
I know that's funny, that's a.
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I got a story on hole two I actually hit a really
good shot right to the green Iwas going to be on and two on a
long par five and it was thewrong green.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Hey, you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I'm caddying for someone on hole two.
I think it was a SouthernOregon and they asked for a nine
iron and I said, yeah, yeah, noproblem, handed it to him, just
hit it right at the flag.
It looks good, it's going up.
It's going up.
It's going up 50 yards over.
Looked at the club, put it backin the bag.
It was a six iron.
Oops, luckily.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I've done that.
It's where my nine iron wassupposed to be.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Luckily this person got up and down and I didn't get
in trouble, but that was pretty, pretty, pretty scary when
you're a kid.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I can tell the difference between a 9-iron and
a 6-iron.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
You would think that person would have noticed you.
I'm going to blame it on that.
Mine wasn't a 9 and a 6.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Mine was a difference between a 9 and an 8.
And I thought something felt alittle weird, as I'm standing
over the ball with my 9-iron andI oversaw the green.
And then I went to put it backin my bag and I want to put it
back in the hole, my nine ironsitting in the hole.
I'm like what the heck did?
I just hit and I look at itit's my eight iron.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Hey, so I got something for Adam.
So, founding member at golfgarage Darren, so are you?
We got our one year anniversarycoming up on seven, 11, baby
Slurpee day.
What should we do for the oneyear?
Get the one year Get a Slurpeemachine.
Is it a daiquiri machine or aSlurpee machine?
Daiquiri.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, just got to make sure we did this.
I used to work at DutchBrothers in college and they
have the freeze machine right,so it's basically a Slurpee
machine.
We decided to make margaritas,so we did half margarita mix and
half tequila.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, that's what you want to hand out to people into
their cars or driving throughthe drive-thru One 16-ounce of
those puts you down?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
That's illegal, Adam, so make sure you add water.
We forgot about the water part.
Is that like jungle juice,where you decide to get a
watermelon, you fill it up andthen you're like?
It doesn't taste bad it's fine,and the next day you wake up
and forgot where you were atStandard right, oh oh, I'm the
only one.
Just you, little buddy.
Could you imagine thatdrive-through?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
daiquiris.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
They do that in New Orleans, they do that in Texas
and you can have an opencontainer in New Orleans.
Your friends can actually drinkin New Orleans, not in your car
though, yes, in your car.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
You can have an open container in your car in New
Orleans, so, as a driver, youcan have one, you just can't
drink it.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
That so, as a driver, you can have one, you just
can't drink it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's like being on a golf course, but on public
streets.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Right, but you can't drink it as a driver till you
get home.
So you can order yourdrive-thru daiquiri, but you
can't have it.
But your passengers can alldrink in the car with you.
I mean honestly, that should belegal everywhere.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
And they probably have less DUI-related fatalities
in other states with stricterlaws.
Most likely it's normally thecase, yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Anyway, we're not going there.
No, we're not going there.
This is a family friendlypodcast.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Exactly, exactly, well, good.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Adam.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Vacations are coming up and yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
How do we get ahold of you, adam, if anybody wants
to use your services, buy ahouse commercial rental
properties.
Adam, if, uh, anybody wants touse your services by house
commercial um rental properties,building like all the above,
right, yeah, fitness.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, so, uh, easiest is our website five, four, one
soldcom, um, and then you canget everything you need there.
You can reach out to me, youcan reach out to our management
division, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Where's the hottest neighborhood?
Biggest bang for your buckright now.
Biggest bang for your buckneighborhood.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Anything that I'm selling.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Well, we've, we've got a couple.
So on a little bit higher end,um, like Cedar landing where the
Cedar links, golf course, usedto be there's, there's a, uh,
quite a few new builds up there.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
You're next to the woods.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, my, my neighborhood Weird.
Uh, there's some new buildsover there.
They're a pretty great priceand then for a little bit lower
price point.
Uh, hayden homes is buildingoff of Delta waters and they
just keep going and going.
I mean you can get a new housein the mid fours.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, you know we got or 10,.
You can go buy a brand new onethe same size for 20, 30,000
more warranty and everything too.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, yep Golf course .
Is anything affordable on thecountry club here?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Or do you got to go out?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
to Eagle point for that.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, I mean Eagle point.
You're going to be in the midsixes to the mid sevens and then
country club.
Uh, I not sure.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Mid sevens to two mil .
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, yeah, and I think there's one lot on black
oak that's still around, but Ithink they want an arm and a leg
for it.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, I photographed that house, yeah, backs up to
the golf course, little privategolf cart shed you know what
they're asking for that onecourse?
I don't know.
I'd have to look it up.
It's a cool house.
It's big house, huge yard,great pool, nice, you know,
amazing entertaining yard, um,very updated kitchen, living
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room, and then everything elseis pretty dated there's a house
just by us.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
That's across the street from the country club on
hillcrest that I think they'reasking a million or 1.14, and
it's 1950 just did a house it'scrazy did a house not too long
back on South, did a couplehouses on South Foothill.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
One actually was in the fours because it was like
stepping into a 1970s timecapsule.
I remember that one, you know,and it went pending immediately
for that price point becausesomebody could put $40,000,
$50,000 into that and have a tonof equity.
Yeah, for the location of thatton of equity, yeah, for the
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location of that.
I mean seriously, shag carpet,wood paneled walls and the
appliances in the kitchen werestraight out in 1970, but I did
that in brand new condition oh,it's crazy
Speaker 1 (45:30):
it was nuts they all still work yeah, and they all
still worked.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
And then I just did a house on what's that fairway
circle, fairway loop, um, thathas this nice gazebo out over
the golf course, big pool deck.
Uh, that house is gorgeous, butI think they want one, seven
for it, 1.7 for it there's alsothat cool little subdivision
across hillcrest from thecountry club is called the
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reserve.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, they've only built one house on that so far.
Right, yeah, things likestraight out of bursada ranch.
It's a beautiful house it'slike man that is central oregon
with the way the fence is donewith like the u-posts.
Yeah, the the reserve would bea cool spot.
If you're going to build, I canhit a wedge for that from my
house you could.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, it's just down, I'm on, I'm on top of the world
, baby, just hit it down thehill I was photographing a house
not far from yours and I flewthe drone over your house.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That was a couple years ago I sent you the
pictures, that's right you did.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
I was going to say you're spying on me.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Huh, this is where Noah Horseman lives.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
I'm going to post this online if you don't pay up
Little GPS coordinates.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
That's trouble right there.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Look at his pool in the front yard.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
How cool is that?
Well, it didn't used to be apool, it used to be a deer
magnet.
We pulled a deer out of thepool when we renovated it in
2019.
Like, literally, and then wehad to refinish it.
Was it dead?
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I mean, the problem was swimming around and you
wanted to help it out.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
We had a 10,.
We had a 10 yard dump trailerand we filled that thing up 10
times with all the debris inthat yard.
So so the gentleman that webought the house from passed
away and they went into HUD andwe outbid our friend Mark Wilson
on the house by about 10 grand.
And we're halfway through likethe reno on this thing and we're
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gutting it and talk about 70shag.
We had tiger stripe carpet inone of the rooms but we wait.
We get out there and we're inthe house and all of a sudden I
look out, I'm like talking to mycousin, like Damien, what is
that?
We get out there and we're inthe house and all of a sudden I
look out, I'm like talking to mycousin, like Damien, what is
that?
Like I don't know.
And you just see this hairballfloating in this nasty pool.
And we go out there and, sureenough, there's a probably three
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400 pound deer before it's wet.
Oh, just hanging in there.
So we had to fish that thingout, threw it in the back of the
10-yard dump, piled debris ontop of it.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah we definitely took that one.
It's 100 degrees outside.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Well, we took it to the dump and we didn't get a
fine, so thank you.
Past rogue disposal new owner.
So I'm safe to say that on theradio.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
So if you're looking at moving to Southern Oregon and
if you're a golf fanatic, it'sa great place to live because,
seriously, within an hour, we'vegot Country Club, we've got
Centennial, we've got EaglePoint, we've got Stone Ridge,
we've got Quail Point, stuartMeadows, if you like, the nine
hole courses, we've got band anddunes, which is only a couple
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hours away.
We've got running why, which isan hour and 10 minutes away,
best course in the valley bestcourse training facility for
golf in the nation 1400 courses.
That's open 24 7 for members,and we got a deal for everybody
too, and we got a lot and we gota lot of great inventory on the
market.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yes, so here's, here's the deal you ready.
So Adam and I partnered up andanybody that closes on a house
with Adam Adam.
Yes, with Rutledge real estategets a month free membership to
golf garage Awesome Game on.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
So we got a certificate is going to be
printed on gold paper.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yes, yes, yes, golden rod.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Paper, not real gold.
We can't afford that.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Maybe.
So we've got to draw people tothe area because it's really a
great place for golf, it's?
I mean, I'm from Santa Barbara,California, so it's hard to say
that the climate here is great.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I think it's pretty good.
You get four seasons.
I like the hot summers, we geta little bit of snow in the
winter and you have a real falland a real spring and the real
fall and real spring are themost ideal time to be golfing,
oh man.
Yeah, hands down.
I mean shoot, we used to getour snowboard gear on and uh
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golf all winter.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Those, uh, those golf carts, they do go in the snow.
Any um big news, business wise,business endeavor wise, Ooh
let's see, Not particularly.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
We're just, we're just plugging along.
We stay consistent.
You know, I think that's thebiggest thing is we show up to
work every day.
We're always looking for gooddeals for our clients.
I just finished.
So every Tuesday, we update allof our sellers good news, bad
news or no news.
So just finish those updatesand yeah, we're just going.
So we're growing at a nicesteady pace and we just like
doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Awesome.
Yeah, adam, thanks for joiningus, man.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Yeah, man, yeah, thanks Adam.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
We've been talking about this a while and finally
made it happen.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
We were pretty excited about it.
All right so golf ball fittingunderway, a lot of good updates.
We're going to get into someclub fitting next and some
drivers.
I think that's kind of the nextbig deal.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I want his shaft.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
I bet you do.
It's going to cost you yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
This went wrong.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
We're done.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
See you next week.
Welcome to the MyGolfSource podcast.
Welcome to MyGolfSource.
I'm Darren and I'm Noah.
Us Open just wrapped up.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, it did.
Did you watch that putt at theend?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I saw the replay of it because I kind of gave up
trying to watch it live becauseit was going to start then.
It wasn't going to start then.
It was going to start then not.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, we were here at the Golf Garage and we were
playing Op 36 match.
I missed it too, and I saw iton the replay.
It was a amazing putt, once ina lifetime game changer for JJ
spawn, 60 footer at Oakmont.
Have you ever been there?
I've never been there.
Um, we'll post a picture that Ihave from 2016, where I took my
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elite Academy to Oakmont.
Hardest course in the.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
U S from what everybody says man.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
there's two courses that stand out Quail Hollow and
Oakmont as the two biggest, mostdiabolical golf courses on tour
in my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So let's talk about Oakmont for a second.
It's a par 70?
.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
For the Open it's a par 70.
For the members, I believe it'sa par 72.
So they lengthen.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
For the Open it's a par 70 playing at close to 8,000
yards.
Yeah, it's out there, that'snuts 300-yard, par 3, 301.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Longest in US Open history.
It beat its old record by ayard.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Then didn't they do they have like a 475-yard par 5?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
5-0-5.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think they have a couple of those usually yeah
yeah, short wedges Like yeahWedges in for number two on a
par five.
Yeah, probably you're a lot ofwhite shambo, seriously.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, what was crazy?
Was just Bryson make the cut?
Yes, no, no, did he miss it?
I think Rory barely.
Rory made it on the line barely, and then Bryson did not yeah,
uh, but did you see the angerissues that they all had?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
a little bit just, it was probably the coolest thing
to watch how frustrated theywere getting, because that would
be like your average golferplaying like eagle point well,
they get on these wicked fastgreens rolling at like a 14 and
then it starts raining and thenit's slow, super slow, and it's
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kind of hard to adapt to that soquickly well, and the greens
are running at 13 or whatever usopen speed and then once they
get soft, they're still firmunderneath and they're just
ripping back.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
So with the slopes and the speed they're at, it's
literally just you would thinkthey could attack the pins, but
they can't because they'reSunday pins.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
No, they'd hit such a great ball near the back of the
green at a backup.
You know it looks like it'sgoing right at the pin and then
roll off the front of the green.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
And then wait, then 30 yards down the approach.
You know, I was kind of hopingthere would be a playoff because
I don't know if you know thisbut in the U S open you have an
18 hole playoff the next day.
So back when tiger beat, uh, ohgosh, why is Rory?
It's not Rory.
Um, oh good, at uh, torreyPines he had an 18 hole playoff
when, right before he had kneesurgery and they went like
additional holes after that.
So, like playoffs are so fun inthe open, it's one of the only
ones you have to play the nextday tiger one, of course he did
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good.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that was 2008 when was the last major tiger
one?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
masters in oh boy 2017, no 20 shoot 2021.
I should know this.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I'm alive.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I don't, but it was the masters.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay, and it was fairly recent.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, it wasn't too long ago.
I feel like it was within thelast five years.
Chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Come on now.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I know I'm looking it up.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
When was it?
When was it?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Masters, tiger woods.
Uh yeah, I'll come back to youon that one, but uh no, I the us
opens one of my favorite events.
It's so challenging and thegolf courses are set up um the
most brutal of any major, so Ijust think it's so cool.
I mean, augusta, we know whatthat looks like it's ever
changing if they do something tothe course, but it's nothing
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crazy.
And then you get to PGAChampionship and you know it's
going to be difficult, but yetagain it's nowhere near what the
US Open is.
And the British Open isrelative because those golf
courses aren't necessarily longover there, like they're not
going to make St Andrews anylonger, but it's all about the
weather.
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So it's about what you get andthe conditions you get to play
in and the wind, yeah, the windover there is nuts.
Oh, masters tiger woods notplaying in 2025.
Well, chat, GPT didn't help me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Not working out well for you huh.
I introduced you to chat GPTlike a month ago.
I think I was life changing.
He was in love, he was like any.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Anything I send to you from now on that's business
related goes through chat gptfirst.
It's my editor.
I might have to change one ortwo things.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So, speaking of we you got us set up to play um
rogue valley country club onfriday.
That was fun it was fun.
You play good I played betterthan I did the week before at
Shasta Lake Resort.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
What was different about it?
The lesson I gave you.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, the course was more open, a little less hilly a
lot less hilly, the viewsthough, at Lake Shasta are
incredible, or Mount ShastaResort on that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Mount Shasta Resort has cliffs that your ball goes
down and then you lose your ballforever.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And trees that are as big around as your car.
Isn't that why you bought theKirkland balls?
I did, and I bought four dozenand I think I went through at
least two dozen of them.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, and they're a third of the price.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So we still thought from our A quarter of the price.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, no, so Quarter of the price?
Well, no, so they must haveheard our podcast, because I
went in there.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They were $26.99 a dozen, so now they're only half
off at our Costco.
$26.99 for two dozen.
Costco doesn't sell anything bythe dozen.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I'll take your word for it.
I didn't touch them.
I walked by and I was likeDarren was wrong $26.99 for two
dozen.
That's a quarter of the priceIn 2019,.
Tiger Woods won the MastersTournament at Augusta National,
marking his 15th majorchampionship.
I knew it was close More thanfive and a half years.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
How's business?
It's actually going really well.
I'm surprised how busy it is,considering it's been between
like 80 and 90 degrees, which ispretty good golf weather it's
been like in the seventies, thisweek, yeah, that's five, six
days, father's day bays werebooming, and even recently, I
feel like we're like 50% fullmost days, which, talking to a
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lot of friends that have similarfacilities um, as far as number
of bays go, you know, they'renot that busy in the summer.
So I think we're doing theright thing.
Our player development's aboutto take off, and what's cool
about it is we can do it yearround.
So I think this is just kind ofthe start of what's going to be
great, and we are.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
We have proven the burger concept Told you that
Smash burgers are off the charts?
Yeah, yeah, charts, yeah yeahthey're.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I usually try to eat at least one a day.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
When he's here, maybe two they need to put two buns
for one smash burger though,yeah, we actually get those buns
special um from a provider.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
They're very difficult to get.
You can't get them locally andum chef chasen tested a bunch of
stuff and just said these arethe ones.
So now I'm really happy withhim.
So we're gonna actually do abuild out.
We're um getting everything bidon right now.
Equipment um just got theelectrical looked at and I'm
hopeful that you know, in themiddle of august to early
(07:59):
september the latest we havefull-time smash burgers at the
turn.
Eat at the turn is what chSpackshirter said yeah, I love
it.
It's awesome Um, and then sushiis the next step.
So just trying to grind.
Never thought there'd be a foodin the golf garage, didn't
really necessarily think Iwanted it, but it's a necessary
and we're bringing in a lot ofnew golfers because of the food.
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So excellent, excellent, who'sour guest today?
So today we're really, reallyfortunate to have um, one of the
best realtors I know andbusiness people for that matter
in Southern Oregon.
It's obviously a friend of bothof ours and um.
He's also a student and amember at the golf garage, so I
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thought it was only you know.
It was probably a good time todo it because he called in for a
question.
Let's back up, right.
Oh, that was like a couple ofmonths ago he called in for us,
and so it was one of those where, after we answered the question
, I kind of thought you knowwhat?
It'd be really fun to bringsomebody on the show.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He says I hit my driver way too good.
Good, what can I do to be worseand not not embarrass my
friends?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
yes, well, actually I just fit him for a club.
So, uh, I'd like to introduceyou to adam rutledge, the owner
of rutledge real estate, and healso, uh, I think you have a
side business of building housesand like five other llcs, yeah,
yeah we got.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We got a handful of things going on.
That's awesome.
So you have a side business ofbuilding houses and like five
other LLCs.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, we got.
We got a handful of thingsgoing on.
That's awesome.
So you have, you know you, youbuy and sell real estate,
represent buyers and sellers.
You build your own properties,yep, and you buy properties for
investment, both commercial andresidential.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, and then we've got the property management
division as well as the gym at45 at 45.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Is that a franchise?
Yeah, and it's not just afranchise, like that place is
hopping all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
How do you play golf?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Golf garage.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Sometimes it's 20 minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know I can pop in .
I don't have to deal with teatimes or meeting anybody, so
that makes it super convenient.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Hammer out nine holes in 40 minutes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, yeah.
I uh have been starting to workon my game a little bit, and
it's not about, you know, athree hour run at hitting a
thousand balls till you getblisters on your hands, but just
doing it daily, consistently,and so I'm able to do that.
Just, I keep my clubs in mytruck.
If I have a free half hour, Ipop in, hit some balls and then
keep going in my truck.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
If I have a free half hour, I pop in, hit some balls
and then keep going.
Yeah, it's awesome.
I would just say that let's goback to how we met, because when
we were teaching up at thecountry club, you were a member
up there at the time and a fewof your friends had taken some
lessons from me, and I don'tactually remember I think it was
Ryan Girodat, maybe thatactually made the intro, or or
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Mike Eastman, one of the two,but they're all taking lessons.
And then, you know, here comesAdam and you know it was all
about the driver.
It was all about that I can'tget my driver airborne and I
used to hit it good, but then Igot this other driver and I
broke that one and they gave me.
They gave me this shaft up atthe country club and like
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there's all these things goingthrough and I'm just like, all
right, cool, what well, tell mea little about yourself.
Well, I played baseball, I grewup here and I used to own coffee
shops and I did this and I'mjust like holy cow, dude, you do
a lot Like you are like me andyou're on steroids at some level
and you're a lot better looking, of course.
But oddly enough, I think ittook about six months and we got
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you hitting some butter cuts,we cut down the driver and all
of a sudden it clicked and I'mlike you need to feel this.
I'm like I don't I can't tellyou what to feel, but just feel
this, adam and all of a sudden Ithink I was just really hard on
you and you just startedgrinding on it and that was such
a fun day.
I'll never forget it.
It was in the original garageat my house, oh yeah, and you
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were hitting them out there 270and you didn't even need like,
you didn't need a driver firstof all.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right, yeah, do you remember to play in a tournament
with me a couple of years agoand he shows up to the
tournament, throws his golf bagon the back of the cart.
We drive out to the first holeand I'm going, dude, where's
your driver?
He's, like Noah said, Icouldn't bring it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I'm like dude, we have to use three of your drives
.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What are you going to hit?
And he gets out this two ironand he just smacks the crud out
of this two iron.
There's so much to say rightnow, so hold on a second.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Back up.
I think I've mentioned thisstory on the podcast, maybe
after Adam called in, but thefirst time we played golf
together.
There's two reasons for this,but the first time we played
golf together he's 160 yards outat the club, on hole number one
, and he grabs the pitchingwedge.
I'm like, yeah, okay, is thatenough?
Club the dude hits it over theroad on the fly 200 yards At 160
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yards yeah.
So I'm just like, oh okay, soif that's the case, then your
7-iron is going to go about 210.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And the guys in our group at the time.
Couldn't you need a bag full ofwedges?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, exactly the guys in our group at the time
could not hit it over 200 yardswith driver.
So I just told him.
On the third hole I said, hey,hit seven iron.
Your goal is to out drive theseguys the entire round.
How do you think that's goingto make them feel?
And sure enough, first drivepound seven iron out drives
their drives.
So I'm like, there you go.
That's your new club until youcan learn to move up.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It was awesome yeah, and I've kind of vacillated
since got good at driver andthen had a baby, didn't golf as
much, so now I'm back needingyour help to remember how to hit
the driver again.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And it's funny how it works when you're hitting your
driver.
Well, you suck with your wedges.
Yeah, when you're chipping andputting good and hitting your
short irons Well.
Your woods are just out ofcommission.
It's kind of hard to bring itall together.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, isn't that?
No, like the, the driver,you're swinging up, and then
your irons, you're swinging down.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So I've I found that to be true.
Yeah, I would just say that thebiggest difference is you have
a ball teed up with the driver,right.
So tour players ultimately hit adegree and a half down on
driver, but your average golferis hitting up on it.
Long drive guys try to hit upon it.
So it's neither here nor there.
I just think trying to getsomebody to do something the
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same right.
When somebody says I want to bemore consistent on the golf
course, or if you said, hey, Iwant to hit my driver more
consistent, I would literallyjust say, okay, define
consistency.
And then there's a pausebecause they weren't expecting
the question.
They just thought that I knewwhat consistent meant.
I have no clue what it means ina player's eyes.
It might just mean that I wantto hit one out of 10 up in the
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air.
It might mean that I wanteverything to be a butter cut
down the middle.
I don't know Right.
So there's a.
There's a lot to it.
Once you find out what they'reafter, then you can help them
get there.
I think that's a lot in thesame business too, like you're
creating goals for somebody andthen my job is to keep you
accountable after that.
Pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I found the quality of the questions you ask has
everything to do with it.
Like to your point, what?
What?
People tell me all the timethey want a good deal.
Well, what's a good deal to you?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
a quick closing.
Is it a view?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Is it a low price per square foot?
Is it a good neighborhood beingin, you know, being affordable,
where you're comfortable withthe payment and getting what you
want all at the same time?
Yeah, it's all about thequestions.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, no, that's really good and congratulations.
I've been noticing that theInstagram's been blowing up with
all these closes from yourproperty group recently.
You've been getting after itand a lot of things on the
market again.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, yeah, we finally got it turned on.
First quarter was a little slow, not anymore.
We're going to do an entireyear's worth of business in the
next like three months.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's awesome, Congrats man, where do you see
the market going in the nextthree years?
Staying hot.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
We're starting to see inventory stack up here locally
, especially over a millionbucks.
So it's been flat Nationally.
I think it's gone up 4% a yearsince 22.
We're selling houses in 2025for the same price we sold them
in 2022 here, so I think it'sgoing to remain flat.
2022 was nuts.
Yeah, that was.
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That was bonkers Bidding wars.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And so people were overpaying 30,000 over asking
price on the first offer Been onthe market for two hours, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, darren's just having a heyday shooting
everything, and again and again.
So yeah, that's what I thinkflat.
The market probably can't godown much because the cost of
construction has continued toincrease and we still don't.
We're not building enough forthe demand.
So you've got this weird placewhere it's expensive to buy but
it's more expensive to build andyou don't want to rent because
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your landlord 78% of landlordsare going to raise rent this
year and every year.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So yeah, just how much can you raise your rent in
this state?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
uh, in this state it's maxed at 10 every year,
every year but you start doingthat you do the math on that,
you're 1800.
I mean that's not bad on thepart of the owner.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, no, I mean, we rarely raise it that much.
What is it in california, doyou know?
Is it capped at like three orfour percent?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
or you know, I don't know what rent control is in
california.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I think it's when you paying $8,000 a month rent for
a 1200 square foot house.
10% a year is a lot of money,yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
My brother's in New York city and the co-op fees and
everything else.
It's more than a lot ofmortgages and you're living in a
dungeon.
It's crazy.
I don't know Well that that'sexciting.
And are people buying on golfcourses?
Because I know you just soldone out on 16 at Eagle Point?
Yeah, I believe, and I know youdo a lot out at Eagle Point.
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Is that kind of theup-and-coming area, do you think
in Southern Oregon, or is theresome other stuff you're seeing?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think it has been for a few years.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, gosh, we sold 50 new builds in Eagle Point
over the past couple years, atouch more affordable than like
Medford proper and with theexpressway going in, you know
the commute got cut by 10minutes, so it's really not that
far out anymore.
And yeah, golf courses arealways in high demand.
You know we got people thatwant to be on water, so rivers,
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lakes, golf courses.
They want something that isdifferent from, like, your
standard.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Right, something exciting when you have something
pretty out your back out, yourbackyard view, where they're not
going to be building morehouses.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, Interesting.
I read an article in the wallstreet journal a couple of weeks
ago I think it was wall streetjournal and there's a higher
instance of Parkinson's andother types of cancer for people
that live on a golf course.
You know, cause all thechemicals they use to keep the
grass green.
So depending on how thosestudies come out, that may
change how many people reallywant to.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So that's interesting .
My best friend is asuperintendent at the country
club and what's odd about thatis the chemicals have changed a
ton.
So we've talked about this a lotand ultimately, I think the
Golf Course SuperintendentAssociation and all those other
bad chemical companies and allthat stuff are probably going to
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come in and squash that prettyquick, which will probably help
your cause too, because most ofthe things dissolve.
People don't realize whatthey're using and how soluble
they are.
And again, I don't want to getinto that, that's not my
specialty, but I was alwaysnervous about that, just because
my wife has a lot of foodallergies and she wanted organic
garden, and so we do all thesethings to try to make it nice,
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and then I'm putting, you know,herbicides down on my grass,
which is 10 feet away, and allthis stuff, and it's like, end
of the day, it's getting wateredin, it's going to dissolve into
that soil anyway.
I mean, it's just over time.
If you're spraying Roundupnonstop, yeah, that's totally
different.
I mean that's, those are.
Those are some harsh things,pesticides, stuff like that.
But yeah, I'd be curious to seethat report when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You know it's funny.
I have four young kids who playaround in the yard and I wanted
to kill my entire backyard so Iused roundup weeds to grow back
.
I'm like, okay, I don't want toput this chemical down anymore.
So I went out and I bought afreaking flamethrower.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Sportster backyard.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And it's talk about satisfying.
It's as satisfying as pressurewashing.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It was amazing.
You could have just taken, youknow, got some gasoline and lit
a match.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Dude, I have a, karen , who lives on the other side of
the fence in my backyard.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Define that.
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's not a burn day.
I'm like shut up, woman.
I'm not burning a burn perilhere, I'm just burning weeds.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So thinking of golf houses, real estate business,
how does that all tie together?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Because I think I know why I built Golf Garage but
I'll share with that later.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You know, for me, I make sure that I can take care
of my clients and spend goodtime and build solid
relationships and friendshipswith clients through golf, and
that just helps secure businessand create loyalty and keep
those relationships strong.
I've also met several newclients, picked up many new
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clients on the golf coursebefore, and so it's a great
place to get to know people.
It's a great place to get toknow people.
We were talking about takingpeople out for job interviews
onto the golf course.
You get to know their character.
You get to know theirtemperament.
You get to know how they areunder pressure, Even if they're
a bad golfer.
You get to know how they handletheir liquor if that's
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applicable in your golf game,it's just a place to kind of
allow people to be unfilteredwith each other adam you, you
and I played in a lot of charitytournaments together and shot
all-time record low scores thisyear I think we shot in the 40s
and scrambles twice, like youuse it mulligans, yeah, and the
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one of them the other one waswas 40 bucks a pop.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Not a problem, no, done.
But what do you think like, whydo you use it?
Because you're sponsoringeverything you know.
Obviously it's nice to get yourname out there, but, like, what
do you see as the main driverfor you in golf?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Good question.
So sponsoring a lot of that issupporting the causes.
I'm on multiple boards ofdirectors and so there's an
expectation that you donate.
And then, in that you know,there's the networking component
and, to Darren's point, youlearn a lot about people and the
.
The golf community is a goodone to be involved with because
typically if you have the timeand the and the resources to
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golf, you're, you're kind of ourtarget audience.
Yeah, yeah, you know you canafford to buy and sell and yeah,
and we just found that it'sit's a good community to be
involved in for multiple reasons.
Plus, it's fun.
You know, it's like if you'regoing to spend money, you might
as well spend money in somethingyou want to be involved with,
and so it makes sense for me tosponsor a golf tournament and
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then get to play in it and then,with Noah on the team, we get
to win them.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And for business-to-business
partnerships.
You know somebody's outspending time on the golf course
and they can afford to do that.
Their business is stable, theirbusiness is successful and
they're doing the importantthing of making time for
themselves.
That means they're not going toget too burnt out on their
business and they're going to bearound for a while to work with
you.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, and they've got a business that can sustain
without them being involved 24seven.
So it's actually a business asopposed to like a job.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Without, without question.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I struggle with that, though.
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I think we all do.
I mean, ultimately, as owners,you're only going to you're
going to be the best at what youdo and you're trying to create
other people to care about it asmuch as you do.
I think that's the mostdifficult part.
But you know, like when youlook back at like the golf side
of all of this, it's all aboutbuilding relationships right so
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you're trying to figure out, hey, should we invite this person
over for dinner?
Right, that's probably whatwould happen, right, 100%.
So you're trying to figure out,hey, should we invite this
person over for dinner?
Right, that's probably whatwould happen, you know, whatever
, but golf's been around sincethe 1400s plus, right, and it's
always been a gentleman's game,so to speak, and you can say a
ladies right, ladies andgentlemen, and so you know, my
rule of golf garage is be nice.
We've talked about that andthere's all these 40 pages to be
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nice on the back end on thewebsite and how to be nice.
But you're ultimately trying tofigure out how to create these
relationships, build yournetwork up, and I would just say
life in general is about therelationships you build anyway.
So it just goes hand in handand allows you to be successful.
And when somebody has somethingthey can talk about with you
and it's something similar likegolf, because you're both on the
course it just makes it thatmuch easier to let your guard
down and maybe have arelationship sooner than you
would If you went to a meetingin a boardroom.
You don't know anything aboutthat person, um, and I think
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that's kind of the whole point.
It's kind of the same idea oflike if you go to a restaurant
you order an appetizer to share,because that feeling of eating
off the same plate builds thatinstant bond with somebody and
helps you build the relationshipfaster.
Golf does that in the same way.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Absolutely and take it one more step.
Instead of with clients,potential clients or business
partners um or employeeretention, you know, take your
employees.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, it's like memberships, right?
I mean, we do a corporatemembership at the golf garage
for a reason and we make somepretty awesome deals for bigger
businesses.
Or if a like I had the nursesassociation come out and we had
150 nurses from Providence andRogue Valley medical center here
(25:34):
.
So I just had a text with themtoday and we were talking about
how do we collaborate, what dowe need to do to get more of
them in that are non golfers,like what do you think the
discount needs to be?
So all I need to do is say, hey, buy one membership and now,
because you're a member, let'sfigure out how to be.
So all I need to do is say, hey, buy one membership and now,
because you're a member, let'sfigure out how to collaborate so
your counterparts can come intothe golf garage, use the space,
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become golfers, they join.
For me, as a business person,it's it's a no brainer, but from
a standpoint of growing thegame of golf, it's just like
invaluable to be able to createthose bigger partnerships.
And we're in a small community,but we have everything in
Medford that most other placeshave in general, and I think
that there's a lot of smallbusiness.
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So we have to pull together andwork together and collaborate
in order for everyone to besuccessful.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So Adam sells real estate, a lot of which is on
golf courses.
You own the golf garage.
How many people do we seespending time at the golf garage
that Adam can network, that youcan network with, that you can
gain business from that?
Currently live on a golf coursethat might at some point want
to sell their house?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
No, so that's good and I'll let Adam speak on this
in just a second, but Adam is.
I want to talk about Adam for asecond.
So when I was building golfgarage, adam was my realtor, and
this is the kind of guy he is.
The person that I worked withon the project was also a
realtor.
He was able to get me a betterdeal on the property commercial
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space, mind you like a goodchunk of change for any realtor.
And because of that, adamstepped away and actually said
you need to work with himbecause it's going to save you
money.
We didn't have a contract at thetime, but it wasn't the point.
I would have stuck with Adam nomatter what, and so because of
that, I'm going to send Adam asmuch business as I can, and I
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have sent him some business thatyou know.
That's the goal, right.
So anybody that does somethinglike that is the kind of person
I will always work with, and Ithink that's kind of the whole
point of what we're talkingabout is those relationships and
what are you willing tosacrifice?
He never had intention that Iwas going to give him anything
in return for that, but becauseof that, he was the first person
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I thought of when I had astudent and, um, you know, knew
that they were in commercial andthey were looking for something
, and I said, hold on a second,I've got the guy for you and you
closed.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
That was an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I wrote that offer at a cabin in the snow on
Christmas Eve.
I remember, oh my gosh.
But yeah, to Noah's point.
So you know I'm here for a longtime.
You know not, not here to tomake a killing off any single
person.
So then, when you you know, inbusiness in general, when you
have, you're taking the longapproach.
You want to do the right thingfor people, even if there's a
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sacrifice in the short term,because that's that's how you
build a back.
Yeah, it's how you build arelationship, you know, just
like that's how you get to knowsomeone when you're golfing, if
you're spending four hours, fivehours with someone, you learn a
lot.
Or when, when a deal comes upand it's like, dude, you're
going to be better off withoutme in this transaction because
I'm unnecessary, you know.
And that's better for Noah.
(28:46):
And yeah, never expectinganything, but yeah, it's
definitely had a good return.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You just earned a whole lot of respect and loyalty
.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, just doing the right thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And I'll say, in our interactions I get to.
I have the very uniqueperspective of hearing realtors
interact with their clients.
Yeah, you do, and Adam'sapproach is not a salesman type
approach, it's a friendship typeapproach where you just have an
honest conversation andsometimes those conversations
(29:15):
are not the easiestconversations to have Amen to
that.
But you have the guts and you doit.
And being an owner of a largerbrokerage, where you have, you
know you have a team of wellover a dozen people showing up
to a property and seeing theowner of the brokerage in there
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with the mopping floors andcleaning counters and wiping
down windows and flushingtoilets.
You know it goes a long way tosee that example being set.
Where I don't see that, I havea handful of clients who are
really good at that, but I wouldsay the majority do not.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, that's interesting.
You know I try to do.
Does it make sense?
Right, so we can.
I could be a pain in the buttand say, hey, we need to
reschedule Darren and we need toget a cleaner out here to wipe
this up.
But here I am able bodied, youknow, I'm above nothing.
So, yeah, if I need to scrubthe toilet so Darren can get his
job done and I can get my jobdone and we save the seller time
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, Then we just do it.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
And make them more money.
Because it's a proven fact thathouses will sell for more money
when they're presented betterRight.
Houses will sell for more moneywhen they're presented better
right 100 and if a house sellsin 60 days for 35 000 less than
what it would have sold, youknow, when you put in 1500 a
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work and a little bit of elbowgrease I mean the the amount of
money that that cuts off of yourcommission is insignificant.
But the amount of money thatcuts out of what the homeowner
puts in their pocket at the endof the transaction is huge.
And being able to just do thatlittle bit of extra work to do
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right by that homeowner is iscommendable and and important.
And that's what's going to gain, you know gain loyalty.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, yeah.
So, going back to you know, ourmembership and what Adam was
saying earlier is that, you know, golf does have a different
socioeconomic um, you know, as agolf pro, I'm trying to break
that barrier, right, I wanteveryone to learn the game.
I think that's really important.
But ultimately, at the end ofthe day, from a business
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perspective, when you look atour membership class, um, many
of them are multi homeowners,right, so they have their
vacation or whatever, and theyhave another club right or
whatever that looks like forthem.
They've sold a business or theyhave, you know, been business
owners at multiple businesses,right, and I think that, at the
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end of the day, real estate isone of those investments that
will always continue to grow, nomatter where you're at right.
The dirt doesn't get cheaper,we know that, and it's Adam's
job to find the right fit forthat person.
And so what I love about it andwhy I've never, ever thought
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twice about anybody going to you, adam or I have a couple other
friends too, but, like,ultimately it's because I know
that you're going to find outwhat's best for them, and that's
the number one thing for me,because if I refer someone to
you, that looks bad on me ifthat wasn't a good relationship
(32:38):
too, and so it's always going tobe one of those things.
I mean, we had that, thatfamily in here the other day and
you went right up to them andstarted talking to them randomly
.
You know, mom was in here andyou were, and you were saying hi
and stuff, and I think thatit's just one of those things
that how much business will theysend to you now, even though
you don't even know it.
That's the craziest part, likewhen I build a new golfer.
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I don't know what that's goingto create in the golf industry
as a whole.
That could be $500,000 over thecourse of their lifetime.
That could be $2 million.
I don't like if they buy ahouse at a club.
Right, that's a $1.5 millioninvestment to $2 million
investment, plus 250,000initiation, plus, plus, plus at
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a high end.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
How much was that Right right?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
right, right.
So let's say 3 million off thebat if they're at a high end
private down in Palm Springs orFlorida.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Right, you come here right.
That could be, though, like thedifferentiator at certain clubs
of if they're profitable or not.
So it's really cool to say thatthe golf industry drives so
much more than just the golfindustry.
It's driving a global economyat a lot of levels, and people
that don't play golf they wishthey did play golf a lot of them
(33:51):
.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
And the reality is is when you work in a stressful
job.
Like you know, most successfulrealtors have go through their
fair share of stress and longdays, long hours.
You know a lot of interestingand challenging dynamics with
people.
Golf is a place to kind ofunwind and let go.
I'll get away from it for alittle while and kind of
(34:13):
recharge.
And I think that goes to sayyou know that.
I know it certainly works in mybusiness.
It's important because I needto get away, I need to just stop
.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I'm not going to lie.
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
It's in a totally different world.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
What do you do to get away from work?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I love golf.
So I'm going to Tennesseetomorrow and we'll talk about
that later.
But what are you going to do inTennessee?
Family reunion and I'm going tosay this because everyone asks
the question.
I do not have family inTennessee, so my, my, my aunts
and my uncles have always putfamily reunions together every
year and it's in a differentplace in the country, usually
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East coast, so it goes round.
Robin, my dad's side's likeseven, you know, seven fold.
So I wanted my kids to meet allof the extended family before
these family reunions stop,which will probably happen the
next couple of years.
So we're going to Nashville,going south a little bit, and
we're going to tour Jack DanielsI'm excited about that I was
going to just ask you what thingare you looking forward to the
(35:13):
most?
I'm excited about that.
I don't even drink Jack DanielsLike I'm just well, maybe, oh
yeah, yeah, I'm just well maybe.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm excited forthe tour.
I've never actually done anysort of a whiskey tour and it's
a family-friendly tour, so likemy kids can go too, which is
kind of odd.
And then, um, it's at a statepark, there's a golf course.
I'm going to rent clubs.
I'm going to try playing golfwith rental clubs.
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It's gonna be awesome.
Um, and then, uh, go toNashville for a couple days and
just kind of see the sights.
And for christmas my mom saidshe was going to watch the kids
so kimberly and I could have adate night in nashville.
Because I don't, we don't doget like, we don't need gifts
anymore, it's like this justhang out.
But this will be a vacation,ish.
(35:55):
But the real vacation isnovember.
I'm going out of the country tomexico first time, to Mexico,
where and this will be you knowwhat I can't tell you it's
Cancun, somewhere.
My wife found the resort.
We're going with four otherfriends that have kids that are
the same age, and that's whereit's at yeah.
East coast.
Yeah, you've been there.
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A bunch of Adam right, yeah, ohyeah, do you like Mexico?
I love Mexico.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, real estate in Mexico coast, west coast.
Yeah, we've.
We've done both, both sides,you know, the Gulf side and the
Pacific side.
I've never been to Hawaiithough Me neither.
And then people tell me don'tgo to Hawaii, it's too expensive
.
I'm like all right, well.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Dominican oh savage.
When I lived in SouthernCalifornia, we'd do a lot of
shopping.
We'd go to Tijuana to buyliquor.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
No, you go get some fish tacos.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And steroids.
That too, yeah, we didn't dothat.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
What are steroids?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Got the little picture of the horse on them.
You know those are the goodones.
This is okay, let's go.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Wait, wait, wait, what I was trying to say earlier
yeah, exactly what I was tryingto say earlier is if you want a
good time on the golf course,you get adam rutledge on your
team.
I have never laughed so hard inmy life, and then probably
there's been three journalists.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
No steve first might give him a run for his money
when I was was playing withSteve.
When I was playing with Steve,he shanked his driver hard to
the left and pounded this deerright in the back of his head.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I beg to differ.
Happy Gilmore did that no morethan an hour ago, sir.
So here's the deal, becausethat movie's coming out soon,
hey, so Adam throws his ball onthe tee box when he has an iron
in hand.
Everyone else has got driver,the rows it on there, no tea,
and just fricking hits it two 30down the middle Like it's the
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strangest thing I've ever seen.
So that's funny.
But the funnier thing was thishas happened twice Now, once the
Eagle point and a scramble, andI don't remember the other
course where he straight hammersa ball, I mean swings out of
his tail and the ball goesbackwards.
Yeah, we still need to lookinto the physics of that.
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I've never in my life seenanything like it, where it goes
up and backwards and then spins.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
That's weird.
Yeah, at the country club lastweek we were playing hole 16,
par five.
I couldn't tell from the teebox whether it was a dog leg
left or a dog leg right, and Ithought it was a dog leg right.
So I hit my ball way out to theleft.
I go to my ball.
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I can't see the actual green.
I see a green and I get myrange finder.
I'm 276 yards out from a dude'scart who's parked on the cart
path in front of the green.
And then there was a bunker andthen there was a green.
So the green was probably about280 285 out.
And my son says, oh yeah,there's the green.
(39:00):
Do you want to wait till theyclear?
And I'm like, yeah, right, Ican't reach them.
I grab my three wood and I hitit out there.
I fly the cart, I hit the backof the green side bunker and
tick these people off a littlebit.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I played up on them.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Best three wood I've ever hit in my life.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
It's called 86th.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
And then I'm stoked other than the fact that I think
these people are going to beupset that I played up on these
people.
And then Logan drives by andsays you idiot, that's not the
green you're going for.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh wait, what Did you go for?
All two?
Yeah, and I made it.
Nice.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Good man.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Did you hit your shot ?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
off two to 16 to 16.
No, I picked up my ball like alittle coward well, and took a
drop where my son was that'sreally smart.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
The rules of golf do not allow that, sir.
I know that's funny, that's a.
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I got a story on hole two I actually hit a really
good shot right to the green Iwas going to be on and two on a
long par five and it was thewrong green.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Hey, you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I'm caddying for someone on hole two.
I think it was a SouthernOregon and they asked for a nine
iron and I said, yeah, yeah, noproblem, handed it to him, just
hit it right at the flag.
It looks good, it's going up.
It's going up.
It's going up 50 yards over.
Looked at the club, put it backin the bag.
It was a six iron.
Oops, luckily.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I've done that.
It's where my nine iron wassupposed to be.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Luckily this person got up and down and I didn't get
in trouble, but that was pretty, pretty, pretty scary when
you're a kid.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I can tell the difference between a 9-iron and
a 6-iron.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
You would think that person would have noticed you.
I'm going to blame it on that.
Mine wasn't a 9 and a 6.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Mine was a difference between a 9 and an 8.
And I thought something felt alittle weird, as I'm standing
over the ball with my 9-iron andI oversaw the green.
And then I went to put it backin my bag and I want to put it
back in the hole, my nine ironsitting in the hole.
I'm like what the heck did?
I just hit and I look at itit's my eight iron.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Hey, so I got something for Adam.
So, founding member at golfgarage Darren, so are you?
We got our one year anniversarycoming up on seven, 11, baby
Slurpee day.
What should we do for the oneyear?
Get the one year Get a Slurpeemachine.
Is it a daiquiri machine or aSlurpee machine?
Daiquiri.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, just got to make sure we did this.
I used to work at DutchBrothers in college and they
have the freeze machine right,so it's basically a Slurpee
machine.
We decided to make margaritas,so we did half margarita mix and
half tequila.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, that's what you want to hand out to people into
their cars or driving throughthe drive-thru One 16-ounce of
those puts you down?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
That's illegal, Adam, so make sure you add water.
We forgot about the water part.
Is that like jungle juice,where you decide to get a
watermelon, you fill it up andthen you're like?
It doesn't taste bad it's fine,and the next day you wake up
and forgot where you were atStandard right, oh oh, I'm the
only one.
Just you, little buddy.
Could you imagine thatdrive-through?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
daiquiris.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
They do that in New Orleans, they do that in Texas
and you can have an opencontainer in New Orleans.
Your friends can actually drinkin New Orleans, not in your car
though, yes, in your car.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
You can have an open container in your car in New
Orleans, so, as a driver, youcan have one, you just can't
drink it.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
That so, as a driver, you can have one, you just
can't drink it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's like being on a golf course, but on public
streets.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Right, but you can't drink it as a driver till you
get home.
So you can order yourdrive-thru daiquiri, but you
can't have it.
But your passengers can alldrink in the car with you.
I mean honestly, that should belegal everywhere.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
And they probably have less DUI-related fatalities
in other states with stricterlaws.
Most likely it's normally thecase, yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Anyway, we're not going there.
No, we're not going there.
This is a family friendlypodcast.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Exactly, exactly, well, good.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Adam.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Vacations are coming up and yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
How do we get ahold of you, adam, if anybody wants
to use your services, buy ahouse commercial rental
properties.
Adam, if, uh, anybody wants touse your services by house
commercial um rental properties,building like all the above,
right, yeah, fitness.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, so, uh, easiest is our website five, four, one
soldcom, um, and then you canget everything you need there.
You can reach out to me, youcan reach out to our management
division, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Where's the hottest neighborhood?
Biggest bang for your buckright now.
Biggest bang for your buckneighborhood.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Anything that I'm selling.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Well, we've, we've got a couple.
So on a little bit higher end,um, like Cedar landing where the
Cedar links, golf course, usedto be there's, there's a, uh,
quite a few new builds up there.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
You're next to the woods.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, my, my neighborhood Weird.
Uh, there's some new buildsover there.
They're a pretty great priceand then for a little bit lower
price point.
Uh, hayden homes is buildingoff of Delta waters and they
just keep going and going.
I mean you can get a new housein the mid fours.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, you know we got or 10,.
You can go buy a brand new onethe same size for 20, 30,000
more warranty and everything too.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, yep Golf course .
Is anything affordable on thecountry club here?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Or do you got to go out?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
to Eagle point for that.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, I mean Eagle point.
You're going to be in the midsixes to the mid sevens and then
country club.
Uh, I not sure.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Mid sevens to two mil .
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, yeah, and I think there's one lot on black
oak that's still around, but Ithink they want an arm and a leg
for it.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, I photographed that house, yeah, backs up to
the golf course, little privategolf cart shed you know what
they're asking for that onecourse?
I don't know.
I'd have to look it up.
It's a cool house.
It's big house, huge yard,great pool, nice, you know,
amazing entertaining yard, um,very updated kitchen, living
(44:44):
room, and then everything elseis pretty dated there's a house
just by us.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
That's across the street from the country club on
hillcrest that I think they'reasking a million or 1.14, and
it's 1950 just did a house it'scrazy did a house not too long
back on South, did a couplehouses on South Foothill.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
One actually was in the fours because it was like
stepping into a 1970s timecapsule.
I remember that one, you know,and it went pending immediately
for that price point becausesomebody could put $40,000,
$50,000 into that and have a tonof equity.
Yeah, for the location of thatton of equity, yeah, for the
(45:24):
location of that.
I mean seriously, shag carpet,wood paneled walls and the
appliances in the kitchen werestraight out in 1970, but I did
that in brand new condition oh,it's crazy
Speaker 1 (45:30):
it was nuts they all still work yeah, and they all
still worked.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
And then I just did a house on what's that fairway
circle, fairway loop, um, thathas this nice gazebo out over
the golf course, big pool deck.
Uh, that house is gorgeous, butI think they want one, seven
for it, 1.7 for it there's alsothat cool little subdivision
across hillcrest from thecountry club is called the
(45:56):
reserve.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, they've only built one house on that so far.
Right, yeah, things likestraight out of bursada ranch.
It's a beautiful house it'slike man that is central oregon
with the way the fence is donewith like the u-posts.
Yeah, the the reserve would bea cool spot.
If you're going to build, I canhit a wedge for that from my
house you could.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, it's just down, I'm on, I'm on top of the world
, baby, just hit it down thehill I was photographing a house
not far from yours and I flewthe drone over your house.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That was a couple years ago I sent you the
pictures, that's right you did.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
I was going to say you're spying on me.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Huh, this is where Noah Horseman lives.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
I'm going to post this online if you don't pay up
Little GPS coordinates.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
That's trouble right there.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Look at his pool in the front yard.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
How cool is that?
Well, it didn't used to be apool, it used to be a deer
magnet.
We pulled a deer out of thepool when we renovated it in
2019.
Like, literally, and then wehad to refinish it.
Was it dead?
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I mean, the problem was swimming around and you
wanted to help it out.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
We had a 10,.
We had a 10 yard dump trailerand we filled that thing up 10
times with all the debris inthat yard.
So so the gentleman that webought the house from passed
away and they went into HUD andwe outbid our friend Mark Wilson
on the house by about 10 grand.
And we're halfway through likethe reno on this thing and we're
(47:29):
gutting it and talk about 70shag.
We had tiger stripe carpet inone of the rooms but we wait.
We get out there and we're inthe house and all of a sudden I
look out, I'm like talking to mycousin, like Damien, what is
that?
We get out there and we're inthe house and all of a sudden I
look out, I'm like talking to mycousin, like Damien, what is
that?
Like I don't know.
And you just see this hairballfloating in this nasty pool.
And we go out there and, sureenough, there's a probably three
(47:52):
400 pound deer before it's wet.
Oh, just hanging in there.
So we had to fish that thingout, threw it in the back of the
10-yard dump, piled debris ontop of it.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah we definitely took that one.
It's 100 degrees outside.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Well, we took it to the dump and we didn't get a
fine, so thank you.
Past rogue disposal new owner.
So I'm safe to say that on theradio.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
So if you're looking at moving to Southern Oregon and
if you're a golf fanatic, it'sa great place to live because,
seriously, within an hour, we'vegot Country Club, we've got
Centennial, we've got EaglePoint, we've got Stone Ridge,
we've got Quail Point, stuartMeadows, if you like, the nine
hole courses, we've got band anddunes, which is only a couple
(48:41):
hours away.
We've got running why, which isan hour and 10 minutes away,
best course in the valley bestcourse training facility for
golf in the nation 1400 courses.
That's open 24 7 for members,and we got a deal for everybody
too, and we got a lot and we gota lot of great inventory on the
market.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yes, so here's, here's the deal you ready.
So Adam and I partnered up andanybody that closes on a house
with Adam Adam.
Yes, with Rutledge real estategets a month free membership to
golf garage Awesome Game on.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
So we got a certificate is going to be
printed on gold paper.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yes, yes, yes, golden rod.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Paper, not real gold.
We can't afford that.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Maybe.
So we've got to draw people tothe area because it's really a
great place for golf, it's?
I mean, I'm from Santa Barbara,California, so it's hard to say
that the climate here is great.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I think it's pretty good.
You get four seasons.
I like the hot summers, we geta little bit of snow in the
winter and you have a real falland a real spring and the real
fall and real spring are themost ideal time to be golfing,
oh man.
Yeah, hands down.
I mean shoot, we used to getour snowboard gear on and uh
(50:04):
golf all winter.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Those, uh, those golf carts, they do go in the snow.
Any um big news, business wise,business endeavor wise, Ooh
let's see, Not particularly.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
We're just, we're just plugging along.
We stay consistent.
You know, I think that's thebiggest thing is we show up to
work every day.
We're always looking for gooddeals for our clients.
I just finished.
So every Tuesday, we update allof our sellers good news, bad
news or no news.
So just finish those updatesand yeah, we're just going.
So we're growing at a nicesteady pace and we just like
doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Awesome.
Yeah, adam, thanks for joiningus, man.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Yeah, man, yeah, thanks Adam.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
We've been talking about this a while and finally
made it happen.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
We were pretty excited about it.
All right so golf ball fittingunderway, a lot of good updates.
We're going to get into someclub fitting next and some
drivers.
I think that's kind of the nextbig deal.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I want his shaft.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
I bet you do.
It's going to cost you yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
This went wrong.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
We're done.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
See you next week.
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