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"We be sisters. We be the same, coming from the same place, going through." The powerful poetry of Lucille Clifton opens this profound exploration of sisterhood, collective power, and remembrance during Women's History Month.

What happens when women recognize their shared journey and lock arms together? The answer transforms families, communities, and nations. With women comprising 55% of Florence's population and 52% of America's citizens, we hold numerical strength that becomes transformative when united around common purpose.

This journey through Women's History Month celebrates the "Queens of the Grove" at Savannah Grove Baptist Church—women like Miss Gladys Jackson, the entrepreneur and mother of prosperous Black farmers, and First Ladies who led with grace and wisdom. These local heroines shared space with national icons like Dr. Mary McLeod Bethune, who rose from nearby Maysville, South Carolina, to advise presidents and befriend Eleanor Roosevelt. Dr. Iola Jones, whose memorial plaque now stands in Florence, brought these world-changers directly to segregated schools, showing children possibilities beyond their immediate circumstances.

The most urgent message emerges when examining today's challenges: our children are struggling with reading fundamentals while parents substitute screens for bedtime stories. The greatest disservice we do to future generations is failing to teach them their history—for as the wisdom goes, "If I do not know from which I have come, it is extremely hard to develop directions to where I want or need to go."

As we face increasingly complex challenges, remember these words: "When you rock is the only time I can rock." Our strength has always been in our unity. Let God's word light your path, then go forth and let your light shine brightly wherever you find yourself. The time for sisterhood is now.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Me and you, we be sisters.
We be the same.
Coming from the same place,going through Me and you, we be
sisters.
You hear me?
Me and you be greasing our legsand touching up our edges.

(00:26):
Me and you be scared of ratsand stepping on roaches.
Now, me and you come runninghard down our streets.
Mamas look at us and shaketheir heads and smile and say we
act like we be sisters.
And say we act like we besisters, me and you got babies,

(00:48):
got 35, got black.
Let our hair go back.
Me and you be loving ourselvesand understanding our people.
But then you and me found Godand now we be understanding

(01:14):
ourselves and loving our peopleBecause you and you and you and
you and you, we be sisters.
We be the same, coming from thesame place, going through.
So to my sweet, sweet blacksisters, let God's word be a

(01:43):
light unto your path and letyour little light shine wherever
you are.

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So now, if you can accept andbelieve that, then black women
can rock together continuously.
Ladies and gentlemen, these arethe words of the late Lucille

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Clifton, another one of thosegreat poets and authors of our
time, and I fell in love withthis piece the very first time I
read it and I have to admitthat was some time ago, very

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long ago, but it is what todayreally has become, what must
become foundational for us.
We've got to realize and actlike we be sisters.

(03:18):
Every last one of you, ourblack sisters, asian sisters,

(04:12):
mexican, hispanic, all womenmust recognize and understand
the kind of power we have whenwe do indeed rock together.
We all have to recognize andunderstand that when you rock is
the only time I can rock, andthat applies individually and
collectively.
We are celebrating Women'sHistory Month and the wonderful

(04:36):
gentlemen and I do mean thatsisters and I think you all know
what I mean by that Mr Williamhere, and he recognizes the

(05:13):
importance of saying somethingabout us sisters in this month
of celebration.
In this month of celebration,that means that some other
sister has done an excellent joband she has given to not only
this community, to this nationand world, the kind of young

(05:38):
black men that are required forour overall survivor.
So, mrs Stutz, thank you, thankyou for the young man you have
given us.
Now, as the point indicates, Ithink that as we celebrate, as

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we celebrate, the entire monthof March has been designated for
that appropriate and certainlyat a time such as this that we

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acknowledge our ancestors, thatwe acknowledge those women,
those sisters, right here inFlorence, florence County, right
here in Effingham we're atSavannah Grove Baptist Church

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where we are now doing thispodcast.
We have got lives, our liveshave been because of those
mothers, those sisters who camealong before us.
I'd like to start by calling asmall role and, ladies and
gentlemen, please understand, Icould call names, this entire

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podcast and still not mentionmany that should have been.
So I'm going to tell you thatup front, this is but a smidgen,
a smidgen of the names that Icould call.

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But I want to talk about andcelebrate today the women of the
Grove.
First of all, let's start withthe First Ladies.
We had First Lady Johnson, who,as a child, was the First Lady

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as I grew up here with ReverendJohnson as our pastor.
Then there was First Lady Lund,reverend Lund's Queen, and then
we had First Lady Jackie Cantyand now First Lady Toy.

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We have to give those queenstheir just due, because those
women, those women, becameexactly as they are called first
ladies, first ladies here inthe grove.

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But they too have to say andagree that they owe a lot to the
other queens and mothers thatwere here in the Grove Just off

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the top of my head.
I'm thinking about MissAllardyce Johnson, miss Gladys
Jackson, entrepreneur supreme.
That's always how I remember MsGladys Jackson.
First of all, the mother ofsome of the largest and richest

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black farmers.
Her husband, mr Sid Jackson,was one of those farmers here in
this community.
Anytime there was a Women's Daycelebration or anything and we
were collecting money, everybodyknew right off the bat Miss

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Gladys Jackson was going to winthat honor.
Then we had Miss Fannie, nyland, easter Benjamin, miss Mady
Staten, sister Perkins, RuthHawkins, and, like I said, the
names could go on and on and on.

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But let's give respect, asthere are names that my sisters,
each one of you, you have alist of names.
Call them, share them, talkabout them at your dinner table,
share them with the youngpeople in your home and in your

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contact space.
Please do that, because all toooften we don't and we don't
tell this present generation howit is that we got to this point

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.
It didn't just one day it wasslavery, jim Crow, and then the
next.
Ah no, nothing in life is quitethat simple.
There was a process, there wereplans, there were.
You know, sometimes those plansdidn't turn out the way we

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wanted them to them too, butthere was a price paid for these
young ladies, our daughtershere today, to be able to get
here and enjoy the things thatthey do.
And they need to know and theywon't know if you, you who had

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shared space and time with thesequeens, don't share that
information.
They have made our lives betterthat you do them and you do
yourself a disservice by notpassing it on to your children.
We cannot maintain thestrongness of a race if the race

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children don't even know what.
What am I talking about?
Let me share with you, uh andexperience.
Many of you know.
I worked at Morris when I leftthe General Assembly and I never
shall forget a 20-year-oldstudent, young black man.

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I was trying to help him get aninternship for that summer and
we were filling out theapplication and we got to the
point on in the application andI asked him, I said what is your
mother's maiden name?
And I didn't hear anything.

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And I looked up and you knowdeep thought, and he was looking
at me and he said well, doc, Icall a mama.
And I looked at the young manbut I did not blame him because

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if he had never been told that,how was he supposed to know and
name?
That wasn't something he, as hetold me later, he'd ever heard.
That wasn't something he, as hetold this world, into this

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world, ill-equipped to handlethe complexities of today.
They got to know, first of alland foremost, who I am, and they
won't ever know that Unless youtake the time to do that and

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now also understand.
This is not something Maggie isasking you to do because Maggie
thinks it's a good idea.
Far from it.
My sisters, I am asking you todo this because God, your

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creator, commands that of you.
You are told to teach thechildren when you get up in the
morning and when you go to bedat night.
Teach the children and mamas,my sister, are considered first

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teacher, first teacher teacherand unfortunately, my generation
dropped the ball, my generationof parents.
I'll be honest and own up tothat.
We dropped the ball because wegot so excited and happy about

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what our ancestors had gottenfor us.
Now remember we're talking 1964,when the Civil Rights Act was
passed in this country.
It was passed here in America.
That gave us the right to beable to sit where our money

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could take us.
We can live right on, doanything that we wanted to,
because Dr King and thousandsupon thousands of other brothers
and sisters who marched, spaton, beaten with billy clubs and

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and brutalized by policeofficers and all other people in
their communities and towns,they paid a price and many, far,
far too many of them lost theirlives.
Getting us the right to fullparticipation in our communities

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, our state and nation, ourstate and nation.
That's what they did and it wasput into law 1964.
And we took those gains and gotour little job and got our

(18:00):
little education and bought uswhatever we wanted, and we did
the same thing for our childrenand unfortunately, to this day,
we're still doing that.
You don't think so?
Go in any mall, any buildinganywhere, and you will see

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toddlers walking around with acell phone.
And you will see toddlerswalking around with a cell phone
yes, toddlers, and they knowhow to use it.

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Report the scores.
The educational scores for thestate of South Carolina says
once again, our fourth gradersand our eighth graders, national
and state testing says that ourkids are not good readers.

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Our scores, our reading scores,are down once again this year.
And why Parents no longer readto their children.
There are no bedtime storiesanymore.
They are on Facebook, where youdon't have to read, you just

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have to have good eyesight andthe ability to hear.
And, sisters, we got 50 inchwidescreen TVs in our kids'
rooms, mounted on the wall, sothere is no talking going on.

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As I bring this to a close, Iwant to share this picture with
you of Dr Mary McLeod Bethune,and I know you will find this

(20:13):
kind of hard to see, but it saysand I want you to go to NCNW,
national Council of Negro Women,an organization started by Dr
Mary McLeod Bethune, and thissays Tigers.

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Dr Mary McLeod Bethune visitsWilson High School.
Yes, ma'am, yes sir, this ladyMary McLeod Bethune out of
Maysville, south Carolina, rightup the street.

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Right up the street, you godown 76, just before you get
into something and veer off toyour right and you are already
in the downtown area ofMaysville, south Carolina.
In this picture there is apicture of Gerard A Anderson.

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The principal Bethune is a local, dr Iola Jones.
Dr Iola Jones and her husband,the Reverend Jones.
This and this is another queen,our queen.
Both of these women, dr MaryMcLeod Bethune, who now has a

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statue on the Bethune out ofMaysville y'all, our neighbor.
This is a woman we had theopportunity to see and to touch,

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to hear her literally speak to,at that time, a segregated
Wilson High School.
You had no other choice.
If you lived in the county, itcertainly if you lived in the
city, if you went to schoolWilson High School.

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And this woman, who went on toserve as eyes and ears to the
President of these United Statesand his first lady, became her

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Dr Bethune's best friend,eleanor Roosevelt, and who
brought her to Wilson, our veryown beloved Dr Iola Jones.
Beloved Dr Iola Jones.

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They have now erected a plaquein the park on Oakland Avenue,
directly across from the housewhere she resided here in
Florence.
These are women who spent everyday, every hour, thinking and
planning and working so thattheir children and their people

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and when I say their children,that meant all of us, because
that's what they were doingmaking sure that little black
boys and girls got to hearthings, see things, do things
that would make them stronger inthis world, so that you had a

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foundation that would propel youinto knowing, if I can dream it
, I can achieve it.
That's the sisterhood, that'sthe village that brought us here
, the village that brought ushere, and as we close out the

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celebration of Women's HistoryMonth, what I want you to leave
this podcast?
Knowing, and I mean trulyknowing.
I don't look around, don't seeit.
I, man in the mirror, sister inthe mirror, I have work to do,

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what he commands of each andevery one of us.
No, they don't have to be yourbiological children.
These women were not justworking for their own biological
, they work for all of us.
We are better off.
We are better off because ofwhat they did, and you deny your

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own when you don't let themknow their history.
If I do not know from which Ihave come, it is extremely hard
to develop directions to where Iwant or I need to go.

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So let's don't just celebratethis year.
Let us come together, armslocked, where it is obvious that
when one rocks, we all rock.

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I need us to understand 2025,and you have to be completely

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blind, deaf and a littlementally deficient If you don't
see that these are someunbelievable times in America,
when the leader, the leader ofAmerica, calls for the
dismantling of the Department ofEducation.
Sisters and brothers, they arenot playing.
So why are we?

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Oh, these people are going todo whatever they want, of course
, if there's no opposition, ifthey know you will sit quietly
on the same side talking aboutLord, help us.
The Lord requires you to get up, help yourself.

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And then, because he blesses us, to be a blessing, so let's get
up, sisters, as only we can getup.
Do you realize that right herein Florence 6,000, there are 40

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rounded, 41,000 of us that livein the city, in the city of
Florence, 55% of them are women,55% in the nation, in the

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nation, brothers and sisters, weare 52% of's over half city,
the state, the nation.
You don't squander that kind ofpower.
You use it to build and tobuild a generation of new
soldiers, cemented in the Wordof God, strengthened to go forth
and to love ye one another Timeout for who she thinks she is.
I can't stand.
Ah, we don't have that kind oftime.
You may not always agree, butthat's life.

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But it should not make youdisagreeable.
You're never going to no Usethe strength God has blessed us
with.
Why?
Because you and me, we besisters, we be the same, coming

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from the same place, goingthrough.
Only when you sing, I pull it.
So, my sweet, sweet sisters,let God's word be a light unto
your path and you go out there,sisters, sisters, and let your

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light shine and you tell it,tell it everywhere you go.
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