November 25, 2025 • 40 mins
The Godmother of No Dribble, 69 Test veteran and wicked cackler, Keeley Devery, has stepped into Liz's shoes this week while Liz frocks up to become a Legend. There's plenty of Fire 5 chat, air travel oopsies and a fierce new face on the walking netball circuit.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello, and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
talk about netball, but we talk about so much more.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And that laughter you will hear in the.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Background is because the three of us just looked at
each other and went, yeah, we've got no idea, let's
just get started. Very exciting this week. Got a new
friend in the studio. I'm Carol, It'swindel, I'm Catcox and
a huge welcome to a wait you do the honest?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well what do we call her? Because she's very special
to this pod. She's the godmother of godmother? Are you
happy with that?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Kid?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I will take that. I will take that. Hello, Hello,
thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Is that as good as the Gorge draw book?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
As long as it's no horse hits in my bed?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We call you the godmother of No Dribble because of course,
you were the one who had the catchphrase Netbaulers do
it without drinking.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now, can you how did that come about? Because I
remember you had on a T shirt that had netball
do it without drew And this is when I first
started playing. Yes, so where did that I do?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It was quite tragic because it was it was actually
the launch of mobile super leg do you remember that.
So I was at Fake nineteen eighty five and I
was working with netball astraight at the time, and by
having a launch and remember that that was a big deal.
That was giving a million dollars and that was the
biggest sponsorship for women's sport at the time. So we
were having this press conference to announce the launch of
(01:27):
this sponsorship and blah blah blah, and so I was
organizing it, and then I went off and we get
these T shirts made for all the journeys that rock up.
They get a little goodie bag and it had the
mobile logo on it as Mobile superleg Netbulers do it
without dripping. It's just great gray T shirt so all
the blokes could wear it as well. Did not get
it checked by anyone. So the first doll, the the
(01:50):
CEO and the chair see if it is at the
thing going what is this and I'm like, yeah, it's great.
I love them. So anyway, probably should have had them
checked first.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So did you use them? Yeah, as soon as I
saw it, I wanted one. So all these years later
when we were trying to come up with a name,
that's the first thing that came to my mind. You
came up with that quite quickly, but only because of Killing.
Let you go, so we bow down.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well, but you are dribbling though.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
This is and that's that's the d irony of these podcasts,
all driple. So give us a bit of background. You
guys know each other from netball.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm just going to through it out there.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny that.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And you know, like most people, when you ask them
who their idol is in the game or someone they
look up to when they're playing, they always say someone
in their position. But I have always said Killy. Killy
was a gold offense and a goal keeper, mainly goalkeeper,
but I always say because she was just one of
the funniest people in the team. Great player, sure, but
I mean I wasn't trying to emulate my game on
(02:51):
a goalkeepers obviously, but I just loved being in a
team of Kills because she was fun, always cracking jokes,
always being naughty. It's like, oh, straight away, I love.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
This girl, and I think that's important. You mightn't have
your on court stuff, you weren't using Mesia role model,
but you're off court, so that I think is probably
more important. Correct, especially in the days when you didn't
have social media to teach you those things about being
on a netball tour. But I'm kind of glad that
there wasn't, so that's kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm still a little scarred though, from when we landed.
We'd be to New Zealand to play a tournament. New
South Wales always went to New Zealand with Mark Corbett
and we played in something over there, and then we'd
always go to the bend In Factory.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yes it was the Australian Champions would play the New
Zealand Champions and it was like the Bendon League. And
is that where we got the Bendamos, Well that would
make sense, yeah, yeah, but always go to the Bendin Outlet.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And it was unreal except that was bad for me
because I was still at school so I didn't have
a job. So these guys would go in there and
spend hundreds of dollars on jileware or any boobs. Correct,
So I'll go in there and bother us a london
of jocks and late. But anyway, so you back, we
were in Sydney waiting at the carousel for the luggage
to come out, and everyone's just standing around, it's quiet,
(04:07):
Kelly at the top of a voice, so coxy, have
you had a root yet? In front of everyone? And
to this day still speak to my therapist about good Yeah. Yeah,
today it's kind of scarred. So guys, I just remembers
going right red, like kill me.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I'm not sorry for that. I could have saved you
a lot of money in therapy by just telling me.
And I could have said sorry, yeah, just.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
On the download, you know. Anyway, So as much as
I loved it, there was a moment there that I
also was like, oh god, you know what first thing
I do is pass it on tonight.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Excellent? Excellent.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
But Carol and I feel like, now that we've got
Kelly here and we don't have Liz here, it's the
perfect time to get some goss solid. That's what I'm
looking for because you play with her for years.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yes, but I do. I have a lot of dirt.
I'll probably do but stuff I can't say, well, yeah
I could, because she's not either say yeah sorry afterwards,
yeah exactly, yeah no, but I did play with Liz,
so that was Yeah, I will think about it. But yeah,
when her first game I was I was there. It
was lovely. Then. I do remember one trip day there
was I can't remember where we met and it was
(05:23):
the three of us in a room together. Three rooming
together was ridiculous, but it was me, Liz and Vicki Wilson,
like could you shick the three biggest people? And we
couldn't fit in the beds and when this time, Yeah,
it was ridiculous. It was just crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, And Liz was so scrawny when she started, wasn't she.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Funny?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Looking back up?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Big started their career and where they end.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Up, right, so you'll think about that thing you want
to tell me about Catherine. No, So how long did
you guys play together? And where and why? And he
was in how did you DoLS? We didn't crossover with
Oz know when did you retire from Australia?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Ninety four? I think yeah, ninety four, So you only
had a one year with Liz.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
She played she played Gozi City yep, yeah, but no
we played New South Wales opens out for a few
years and that was when New South Wales one. Everyrief
thing they used to give the Golden Boot Award red
the world talking about this that.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
They were in the table at the at the yah.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Dunlop, yeah, balie or whatever the shoe was, what was
it Hatch twenty So wasn't it no catch?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh my god of KC twenty six was one thing.
And then there was the netball one they made. It
was supposed to be specifically for netball, but it wasn't
catch savn was catch evn catch seven? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, anyway, it was this dunlock shoe. So they'd spray
paint this thing gold and then mounted on I think
as a trading. The New South Flalest won them all
and it was Kill's era. I came in I think
probably in the end of them and won a couple.
When News early played the played the game ninety four.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Four okay, so ninety four ninety five would have been
together in New South team.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah. See.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I was an eye opener for a whole range of reasons,
mainly off court, little Catherine learning a thing or two
about life. Well, I have to tell you, I'm going
to change the subject off netb for a moment. We
will talk about network because that's what we sometimes do better. Oh,
just a bit of a flex.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I was at the ashes last week, as we all know,
was therefore a great day of cricket that I thought
was going to end up looking very sour, but the
next day it was fantastic. But I would like to
I need some counseling over something that happened at the airport.
I'm sure it won't be unfamiliar to you. I'm standing
at the baggage carousel, and I stand a decent distance
from the baggage carousel brick because I'm not a lunatic,
(07:45):
and I know that if everyone stands back, then everyone
can see what's going on, right, and you move forward
when it's there was a woman there. I swear to
god this was a hidden camera prank that she was
playing on met because every time I moved, she moved
and stood directly in front of me, one foot in
front of me. And then I'd sigh and shuffle a
bit to the left, and she would shuffle a bit
(08:06):
to the left. It was just if like for ten
minutes this went on, and it was like her entire
thing was if I don't stand in front of this
very short woman, I will not be able to see
my bag and claim it. And it took all my
patients not to give us some feedback on that.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I know what the who came first mine? Yeah, so
did you sort of get rush?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I mean I have to get past excuse me?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It was. Yeah, where is it?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
There's some inports where they'll have a line basically a
tape line and back to be hind. Now behind that
and don't go in front of it until you get
your back.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I think people, ilady, stand behind those lines at immigration
where there's someone and you know, look, if I get
arrested here for crossing the line, I could be eight
hours in questioning for now a parent rect the best
I do. Yeah, So that was. It was absolutely infuriating.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Just just people. Stupidity general drives me batty.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Airports stupidity particularly.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, seems to be a mass. Oh my god, speaking
of airports, you will not believe this. So last week
we're talking about coming in for landings and how you
had three false attempts, and then we asked Darryl for
the terminology, which he gave us.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So what was your flapper on which I don't know
Darryl honestly, And what I would love is if Daryl.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Was your flaps are always on either.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
If it was he you know, we do, we do
trust him and his judgment and his advice. But it
would be great if he were to just now start
feeding this crappy is summation because it's like, well, you
are meant.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
To do all the pointless job skills. I will, but
I might not do it with any rigut. So I
would applaud if that's what you did.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, likewise, but I don't know flapper on there. I
thought it was Ailerontain.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, but did you have a no? So what were
yours called? Where he said you're still in the air
but you do the Well, they were a bord landing. Okay.
So the other one you mentioned was a touch and go. Yeah.
I had a freaking touch and go. I could not
believe it after we just talked about it. When I
flew back from Melbourne on Tuesday. Wow, freaking scare as
(10:13):
if the weather what happened? Well, no, the weather looks nice.
But we came into land and the back wheels were
down and you could feel still up. Yeah, so you're like, shit,
when's the front coming out? Like it just wasn't coming down.
And then next minute the jets go on and we
take off again and there's radio silence like obviously at
that point, the captains is concentrating on flying the plane.
(10:34):
But when you come out of those it's quite aggressive
because you're not supposed to be coming out of that huh.
So it's steep and then it's quite sharp turning because
in my head, I'm also thinking about all the other planes.
Anytime you look out the window, you can see the
line up. Yeah, and one's taking off. So I was
starting to freak out a bit, and I looked to
the Fortunately, I had two hotties next to me. When
(10:55):
I need to side and take middle seats, there was
only a middle seed on this plane, and I'd too
good looking men on the east side. I was like, Okay,
if I'm going to die today, I mean good coup.
But anyway, I looked at one of them. I was like,
well that's different, and he goes, yeah, do you think
you'd rather you'd like to know what was going on
or you'd rather not. I was like, yeah, I definitely
(11:15):
would rather not know what was going on. Anyway, radio
silence for like ten to fifteen minutes. We finally get
up on a cruising around here, and then the pilot
comes over and said, oh, sorry about that. Folks seemed
quite cheerful. Okay, breath. We had a big gust of
wind right when we're about to lag. Yeah, and they
just thought it would be too dangerous, so they just
(11:37):
took off again. Buddy, Hell, I know so. And we
were talking about it though one of the charts. But
the ten minutes of radio silence, you can imagine up
front that there's a fair bit of chat going on there.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
What do we tell them?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, yeah, like I try to even if you're paddicking,
try to sound car when you come over. All my
years of flying never happened. We were could talk about it,
and then that happens the next week.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
It's a really good one to lean into when you're
getting one of those sort of emergency take offs, to
really constrict your amps and go up and it's like ap.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Work out there because you've got the resistance. It was
definitely but clinching. I can assure you. I did start
to get a bit sweet, did you. Yeah, scary, Sorry,
that's not cool.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
That was nothing to do with the guys beside you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
No, No, it was before minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So the arm rests if you're in the middle seat,
back arm rest, so you do something that's that's the rule.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I was aware though, because I was in an exit row. Yeah,
so the two next to me were tall as well,
which is even more appeally freak share. But I was,
I was actually aware of that and how that was
going to play out. But we're on one of the
brand new air buses. They're fancy anyway, heats of room,
so I was. I was quite happy to share it
over those two. So one of the dribblers was a
little bit upset. So we were talking about the falangeets
(12:52):
last week this episode of Friends, and she said, was
anyone else screaming at the at the podcast? I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I love the winds like rage as well as joy
that it was Rachel on the plane saying the falange
So I went back and watched the episode. Phoebe was
in the car. It's trying to get Ross to the
airport on time. They went to tell Rachel he loved
him before she went to Paris, and she said to Rachel,
there's a problem with the Falangers. And then Rachel got
(13:20):
off the phone and the guy next to her said,
what was that? Because she'd said, I'm sure there's nothing
wrong with the plane, and then she brought up the FALANGI,
so was Rachel on the phone, but it was Phoebe's
made up word. But were very important that we correct
the record on the Falangie debarcle the FLANGI y, let's
(13:41):
go Flancy gave.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You falancy game from someone's mouth. Apologies guys, and we
are there.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, okay, So should we talk about some netball?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So which part? How about five five that was on
the weekend was on the weekend?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And why didn't you get invited to play YouTube? Now, listen, Cole,
I didn't. I don't invited debates my torn miniscus, I
think is there.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I don't want to say their ageist, but I did
not get invited to play hard.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
No, you still killing you'd kill it, I know, but.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
She's still especially a shooter. You just got to stand
there and shoot. You don't have to do anything.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah. I was excited to try to play. But the
problem is the majority of them were ex players. So
if you could do that, if you're playing against you
D league and people that haven't played before, but our
like mother daughter Lee. But there was some guns and
the team that won was the Phoenix. And listen to
this line up though, if these guys hadn't want Yeah,
(14:54):
why do we not put money a ball up? Yeah,
Casey Kapua, Katrina Rore, cat Tour, Varti, Laura Lanman, Kim Green,
Taylor Davies, just to name a few. They won twenty
thousand dollars for winning this tournament. Kim Green ended up
in hospital having to have surgery on browsing singer. No,
this is the reason I would never. But from all
(15:16):
the cads, that looked like a Tops weekend, and there
were plenty of dribblers on our Facebook page posting photos
there they're having fun.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, it looked so.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
There were sixteen teams I believe, yes, and lots of
ex superstars. Net Medhearst was there playing, April Bromley was there,
Gubby Simpson, a lot of the Kiwis came over to play.
Fantastic unreal. It was fabulous. So guys next year, like
an invitation please to play? To play really yeah, I'm
not going to do.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
But it's just thought of, like to be able to
reject the invitation.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
There's a part. Yeah, fair enough, and that's looked exactly
like it was. So that was the phoenix.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So I thought of Casey Cooper had hung up the boots,
but to sun Corps Super Apple boot.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Same the serious moods our text cat to a Varti
this morning. You see if she was alive? I said,
are you dead? And she said only from the neck down?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Okay, yeah, well they got okay, very good.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Would you be up for that?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
No? No, no, my niece wouldn't cope. I actually that
was your last Oh my god. I have to make
a confession here, which I was hoping no one to
ever find out about. But I actually just recently played
in the Masters Games in camera in walking netball. I know, Wow,
(16:38):
it was weird. I'd spent the first two games just
working out what the hell I was doing. It was
just really weird.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Am I the same rules?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yes, I think you can. You can take an extra step,
so it's more so that if people have to shuffle
a little bit and take an extra step, you can't
jump at all. So you can't jump. So no, so
that was the thing, automatically going for a rebound to
change up, But not that I probably in my mind
think I was jumping.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
An it didn't really make any difference, but Simhio, but
my niece is stuff. So I was like, there was
this team of girls that have been the Commodorees. Shout
out to the Commodore's group of wonderful ladies that have
been Richie got his start catching up together. I think
they've been playing together for like twenty years and it's
(17:27):
this group, the core of the group, and they play
in the Masters games, pan packs and every year. I
was working with a couple of them a few years ago, Oh,
come on, play on us. I can't and he's the
stuff and he's the stuff. So then this year they've gone, oh,
no excuse for doing walking netball, You've got to play.
And I'm like, oh, I know, he's a steel stroll.
But they had a sports visio in the team, so
she kind of pieced me together and it looked it
was fun. It was like, you know, you know, it's
(17:49):
like being on a netball tour. It's all the fun
stuff around it, which was lovely and such a great bunch.
But as far as the netball, I certainly didn't do
myself any favors, or anyone watching would have been like, oh,
didn't she used to be able to plane?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I feel like anyone that's even slightly competitive would bust out. Well,
that's me and that's what I was worried about.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
To you, Yeah, stole out, Yeah, you won't get extra
fast exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
The most funny thing that the organizers that act Netball
had to run most of it, and they're fantastic and
they said, oh, you wouldn't believe it. The biggest problems
they're they're having with, you know, fights on court with
the over sixty five's walking category.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So everyone else was pretty good and you know, all
in the spirit and having good time, but there's a
few in the over sixty five swarfing you.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Job.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Don't we just getting quite physical because there's no contact.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Rather than it's not a physical No, I don't think
so each other.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Maybe maybe because the's supposed to be no contact, because
there was supposed to be no contact at all, So
I think there was probably a little bit of archie bargie.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And anyway, how many days was this?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I was eight days? Yeah, one game of day.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You feel it at the end even though you walk, Yes,
probably because my knees were so sore.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
So I my orthopedic surgeoncines and he's just like you're
headed for a replacement. You know, but anyway they're dropping
like flying.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
This is a dangerous, dangerous Oh wow, that's fascinating. I
had so many questions about that walking.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
But it's fun and it's just great that people that
have this lifelong love of the game. And I think
that's the thing with netball. This you want to play forever.
And there are so many women there that you know
they just played forever and now they could keep playing
because there's there's all as options as net set go.
It's part of the continuum off the game. Not great
(19:51):
to watch, but and it goes to Walker.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
After I will point out that next guy is not
great to watch either. Oh god, Darling, these boots on
a bock and that's just what they'll do. One of
these easy boots.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Un a love over.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
So where was your last official a running gag after
you retired?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You did not? Odd, No, I played must have played
basketball because I used to play basketball as well. I
played red basketball, and I thought that was just great
for netball, like blocking out, rebounding, all that sort of stuff.
But so I played a bit more basketball because you
could you just have a bit more control, and especially
being in defense, you're always reacting and again that kicks
(20:42):
in that whole competitive thing. Oh I can get that,
and you're like, you idiot, No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Checking menopausal and menopausal women basketball gives a certain outlet
for the.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Aggression hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I've just started hormone replacement therapy.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
How's that going out?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We're great, it's good. Turns out that I was right
that all of my family are wrong most of the time.
But if they're so, the hormone replacement therapy helps a
little bit, which.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It should be the disclaimer on the box. You may
find out that you've been rolls a few times. No, no, well,
let's I will point out that I was not wrong.
I may have significantly overreacted to everything for several months.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, I'm still rights bitchy. When I'm right, I can.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yes, the children are very happy to remind meditate my
medication tablet today, by which I think is brave. You
haven't had a cup of tea made for you in years.
It's suddenly they're being in. We're there with a tablet
next to it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You got one of your lullums, on of your happy lullies.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh my god. Now should we talk about the sport
of hall of Fame dinner, of course, because that was
last Monday, and Liza and I were talking about and
going down there on the night. I was sitting between
Shierrol McMahon ye and Liz Ellis have great trouble. Well,
I haven't had a chance to sit and have a
drink with those two with no official anything going on,
because Charelle's now the GM of the Vixens, so she's
(22:20):
in serious netball mode. This is obviously in serious network mode.
It was so chill and just a fun night. None
of us had to do anything. All these had to
get up and give an award to Billy mc clark
because she got you bad so legend status, which was awesome.
But the funniest thing though, when you're inducted, it's quite
special that you get to choose anyone that's already in
the Hall of Fame to present you, and typically a
(22:42):
netball would choose a netball or whatever else. But I
could have had Dawn Fraser do it. I could have
had Greek Horman do it, whoever you wanted. Anyway, we
started talking about that and Annie Sargent was also on
our table and she was the one that did the
whole intro for me and gave me my award when
I was inducted, and Phil's who was Liz? Actually, I
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don't know that she can remember what I mean, Annie,
That's surprising, isn't it. Just couldn't remember something. And then
Liz said who did Jaws? And Cherill just went blank
for a minute. I was like, oh God, you can't
remember either. Here's us talking about this being a big moment.
But it was Liz that did it, and Liz had
forgotten that she had done Cherelle's. But Cherelle had forgotten
(23:24):
Chre like because she's like, are you joking? Was you?
You idiot? So oh, Lizelle, it's your funny. She's got
too much on a plate these days, can't remember what's
going on. But Laura Gutt's got up. What an ambassador
for our sports, such a great speaker. It's a tough
room because there's nearly a thousand people in it, you know,
when people are eating, yeah, playouts and Knights of Orcs
(23:47):
and glasses and all that sort of stuff. The room
went silent when she got up there because she's just
she's such a figure, and she's obviously gorgeous, and she
spoke so beautifully you could hear a pin drop. But
she was funny. Just the whole thing was amazing. And
another one in the Hall of Fame, which is exciting.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And who else went up that night? Cameron Smith? Yes, god,
who else was in there? Torah Bryight, yep Leyton Hewittt Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah,
some greeting, Yeah, in that one. It's great.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And he kept yourself nice. I didn't see you on
the front page of the Herald Sun.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
No we didn't, but we did check our slippers into
the cloak room and got those on the way out
of walked out where those and I said we were
going to know we were very well both.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Good job, yeah, fun and you looked very nice too.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You're from Yeah. I did my own lashes. Yeah, don't
do that. No. I bought idiot proof ones too that
were already like self sticking. You literally have to line
them up and put them on.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, no, instood, I STU.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, no, I leave that to the professional. Yeah, I know,
but I thought with these ones you can't get wrong.
You can, that's something that you can.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Someone else who got very dressed up quite recently is
our producer Alex who just snuck off and got her
self married, and our congratulations Alex and Luke and I
had been the Thursday before she got married on the Saturday,
and I got a text from her on Monday saying, well,
I had a wedding on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm just bit tired. I might do the edit tomorrow.
Is that okay?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
She'd say, I got married on the weekends. I had
a wedding, and so you know, we all have a
wedding on the weekend and you've been tired.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
And one no, no, last so it was mine.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, And then and then she accidentally texted me something
that was meant to go to her aunt. Because I
got this message, it's like I've only got these ones,
these couple from Dom and it's like I was just
sending her a note saying I think this might be
for someone else. And then a photo from a wedding
came through and I looked at it and went, I
think that's Alex. And the day before her wedding, maybe
(25:50):
two days, I had been asking her a million questions
about microphones at headphones, because last week we had you
girls down in Melbourne and we were meant to have
this head fine splitter that I organized, and then it
was the long one and blah blah blah. But anyway,
thank you Alex and very best wishes to you and Luke.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What a llision? Yeah? Lightly shit girl though I like that. Yeah,
just set up wedding.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Sorry you Reckon Albo talks about his wedding a lot
in cabinet Do they have to? You know what it's
like when you're working with someone who's planting and wedding.
It's a nightmare elbow speaking the first half ar of
a cabinet. Managin colors a blush and bashful and do
you think can we go for ites? Do you know
what the blush and bashful reference is?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Really, still Magnolias, oh macalor is a blush and bashful
Oh no?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Which brings us to groups we've I've got an old
netble group called still Magnolige. You know you have your groups?
What do you call them?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So ours is nettie goals?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Oh okay? One group is still Magnolias that we catch
up with, and then the other one which we just
had the ANNUALDRENE meeting for two weekends last weekend? Was
it of the om n C which is the old
moles in It Ball Club. And yeah, so that's Carissa,
Tom's Sue, Kenny, Nikki Cusack, Shelly O'Donnell, Sammi Kinness and
(27:09):
I and we can catch every year. Yeah, so we
go away every and this time we just went to
Criisa's place at Coloroid, so went out there. It's fantastic. Yeah,
a great weekend. So it's still oh my goodness, yes, yes, no.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Stories to tell.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Oh not a hospital visit but perhaps could have should
have been, but it was. That was fun, lots of fun.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Tell me about your netble career where what was your
junior club?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Where did you start playing?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I started playing at Blacktown South Blacktown Netball Club and
there was a lady there that they had this beautiful
mauve uniform. That's that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, yeah, was she tracksuit when you walked on?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
No, I know you did have a tracksuit. Actually my
first year I had a cardigan that the lady crossed
the road from me, you know, to go with my
netball uniform.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
No imagine imagine trying to get any teen or tween
girl to wear that.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Man, Yeah, like fablays, I don't know, but that's the thing,
like I would have been what nine or something, Yeah,
and then played junior reps at Blake toown through you know,
junior state champs and all the rest, and we actually
had a really good team. We won under fifteen's one
year we won, which was big that is for that association. Yeah,
we won under eighteen, it is, and we won under
twenty one. So we had a really good team going
(28:33):
through great coach Sandra Marks. She was just so just
so enthusiastic and you know, I think that one year
she's coaching a thousand, thousand months pregnant and just didn't
stop her. She was, you know, really enthusiastic, loved it
out of box and so.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Important though he had too hundred just that make you
enjoy the sport. And we've talked about this a lot
because there are some that don't do now and the
kids obviously don't want to cut no.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
And it's so there seems to be so many rules
and regulations, and the thing is the sport's not in
a position to be too strict because there's so much
more competition now. When we played, every girl played Network,
so yeah, whereas now you've got competition from soccer, AFLW,
cricket for lots of competition.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Do you got to Did we talk about the money
earners for women's sport last week? No, I think it
was in the paper. It was somewhere I saw last
week and had the top five and it's women's sport's third.
It was cricket first, Women's cricket and women's AFL and
I was gobsmacked the difference. So, yeah, we do have
a lot of competition.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
And it's not just at that elite level. It's getting
that lot of the base. So it's it's always been.
I think that was relied on the fact that every
girl plays nemtple. Well it's not the case now, So
you have to do more to keep them and especially
those teenagers, keep them engaged and if they're into reps
and showing a bit of promise, keeping them, keep me
engaged because off and they are doing a lot of
(30:02):
other sports as well. Why was they not doing dancing?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
That's my daughter on Saturday she danced one. No, I'm
so not. I'm a dance mom. I think dance is wonderful, right,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
But do you go full dance mom?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Like? No?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And when't he thought it?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And we've got the right dance school where it was
run because that was everyone go and get an eating
disorder and make your hair perfect, you know, and so
there's none of one of that nonsense.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
But yeah, I think there's dancing, and there's dancing. Yes,
the concert was good. It was cute. And it's cute
when you see all the little little kids come out
and they are all off with the fairies. They all
watch the person in front of them, the person have
frod cox.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
That just looking for their parents in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It was a disaster. It's so funny. I half loves
it our concept.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
It's four hours or something. It feels like an eternity.
And I like Dotty to do quite a lot of
dance because then I go to it. It used to
be i'd go and I'd see her once in the
first act and once in the second act, and then
there's three hours and fifty two minutes of so now
it's like every third or four song much order comes on.
It's like, that's great, that's but a man.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
It's tough. It's so tough.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But you know, I really object to the parents at
the concerts, whether it's the dance concert or school concert
or whatever my kid's done, we're going home. So no, mate,
this is a team sport.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
We are in this, the.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Audience is in this together. We have to we have
to applaud one another's children for their efforts.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
However, lay, no, not for four hours. I agree with
our constant an hour. That's enough, Like as everyone's.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Like a two four quarters. Oh you need not for
four hours.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh, I'm one hundred percent to be out of there
straight after my kid. That's a lot. It's not really four,
it's like two and a half, but either way, it
feels like four. Harpa told me she was danced like
four nine and sixteen. What do you think I was
doing in between her dads counting? Okay, yeah, well that's
that's what the program is for, right, isn't it? She
(32:03):
got right? Where are we? Well, fancy, we don't have
a problem. Have you broken the back of this year?
Where are we? Are we on the way out? It
said halftime? But she made me. She was there when
I booked the ticket, and she made me book the
front row. In the also she could see me.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, nice, there was no snow getting out.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Have good eyesight because you would stand out in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
This blonde beacon.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
No, I think I guess one people behind because see
that that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
They can't really say. But yes, that was good times anyway,
done for another year. And where do you put the
dirty big costumes? She got the two too, you know
the ones that go ass. So now you've done another
lot of those. She does ballet, jazz and acros. It's
free costume, different costumes, and wants to keep them all
we horrors, we hire them, we send them back.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Sounds like in it's changed schools.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Well, yes, if anyone needs as for anything, let me know,
get half a line in it. I wouldn't be fast.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So that keeler you've had postnatboy, you've had a very
interesting career in TV.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yes, tell us.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Well, when I was at the AIS, I actually did
a degree in sports journalism. So when we went to
the AS, we had to be either working or studying
or doing something because we would train at like six
thirty in the morning five because it wasn't professional then,
so it was it was almost like they were gearing
you up to managing it with your life. So I
did a sports studies. Of course, they're majoring in journalism.
(33:36):
Cooy's something I sort of wanted to get into. And
then you know, I did a bit of writing, had
a column in The Herald. Yeah there was Remember there
was a magazine called Sports Weekly. I just have a
calling that as well. And then when Fox Sports started,
it was Premier Premier Sports the first year, and I
got a job there and I was doing a bit
of reporting, newsreading, presenting, and then as soon as your
(33:58):
face falls off, you become a producer, and that's what
I did. So yeah, so I produced there mostly. I
did a show called The Backpage.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Oh my god, that's finished.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, I know, I know one for years or something.
So I started it and it was Mike Gibson the
host and with Peter Fitz Peter fre lingas Wow. Yeah,
just Billy Birmingham just the most wonderful time. They were
just so good to work with. Did that for about
ten years, the first ten years of it's run, and
then Nebor got the rights to Fox got the rights
(34:31):
to the a n Z Champs. Then remember the start
of that. That was the first sort of national league
and it was five Australian teams, five New Zealand teams,
so launched that I was working at Fox and basically
you know, produced all of that, got it up and
running and it was like going gangbusters. And then all
of a sudden tail ten came along and oh, well
like that, so I thought I was So then I
went on to rugby and produced Rugby Union, did a
(34:54):
studio show and then started doing live outside broadcasts, went
to two Rugby World cus. I was in London for
eight weeks John a Rugby World Cup over there in
twenty fifteen. It was just fantastic. Yeah, great, It was
good because then I wasn't doing just my sport. I've
done so much more than that. And then so when
the SSN came up and started at nine, I was
(35:16):
sort of head hunters there to say well can you
get this up and running for us? And had five
years there so and it was great, But it was
just then getting to work with you know, we'll still
play u s. I'll call it playing with CAF and
Liz and two and all those guys. So guys that
you played with. Being on a Netbil trip again without trainingsticorious.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Hub that we talk about. Yeah, Kim, we was in
the Hui.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yes, we had family Night every Thursday night, which was
basically the Oly day we weren't working, and we weren't
working the next day, so we would have family Night,
which just involved dinner, lots of drinks, and downstairs every week.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It was such great farm, but it was because of
the company that we managed to stay.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, I still remember that. There was one breakfast like
we're all handling it pretty well and we we'd gone
for a walk one day and had.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Breakfast, a really good milkdown, and then it was.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Like all sudden, someone was like, oh, you know, I
just talked to kids and blah blah, and then started crying.
Might have been this, and then cast started crying, and
then I started crying, and it got to stage We're
all sitting at breakfast and were all just crying, and
we're like, okay, let's.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Go on us. We missed the chip.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, And it was just it was a lot. We
were away from home for eight weeks and it was
and it was intense, Like it was two games. It
was four eight games a week, So Tuesday night two games,
Wednesday night two games, and then Saturday Sunday two games
extradray and in between you're prepping those and getting ready
for it. So there was not much downtime.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
So it was essentially two rounds each week playing.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
So normally before four matches around and we had eight,
so it was and we were doing every single one
a lot, and it was getting ridiculous. It was we
were getting blithering, which was funny, and the bing chicken
stories and it was. Yeah, but it was a lot
of fun. I think because it was such a good
group we got through it. Because we did have a
lot of fun. It were just delirious. Yeah, yeah, we
won that championship that was Vixen's. Yeah, only because I
(37:15):
remember just going out for a drink with Simone and
Die the coaches the night before the Thursday night. I
was at Thursday night. I was at Thursday night before.
I said one means to meet for coffee and it
did'ner up coffee. So yeah, that was so I remember
meeting meeting up with them. But yeah, they won, they
beat the fever.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's beauty of coaching, isn't it, rather than playing. I
can have a drink march made of the only coaching
have you coached?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I coached my daughter's team at club level. No, I'm hopeless,
and I get to a competitive yeah yeah, and I'm
out now. Actually coaching at French from school. So yeah,
so of course we've been living down there for a
few years. I got roped into coaching there and I've
had the first for the last two years, and then
(38:03):
I had the junior Bees as well this year, and yeah,
and I just keep forgetting that they're.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
School girls and I'm like, I'm what a legend you
are though, or do they just think you've just come
in to coach. Has anyone told them?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I think they I think they research it. They they
always I got this beautiful card at the end of
the season. They make them these great big cupboard cards.
They're fantastic, and they've found all these terrible fighters for
me and then and I had one year that they
had the ninety one team and they had all of
their heads on the other players. But yeah, which was
(38:36):
a huge. Yeah, so they're yeah, it's awesome. They're gray
ain't know, eight girls. Yeah, but they're great because a
lot of country girls there too, and they're just great.
They all love sport down there. It's fantastic. They will
get involved. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Well, it's been so great to have you here. Not
fabulous to have the godmother in my house. Well, do
you have to quickly mention that the silver Ferns wrapped
up that series in England. They cool mean for when
Yeah you did cool it, well done. So that's exciting
for next year. I'm looking forward to it, just if
anyone was wondering.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
But yes, our Catherine. Finally, before I go, I have
brought for you.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I will be putting my Christmas tree up on the
thirtieth of November.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I'm breaking.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Progress, tide and fast for all.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
On not before December, but to have as many members
of the family here as we can. It's either then
or the fifteenth of Descender. I think it would disapprove
of going that late.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
So are you a real trail of fake tree?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's fake yeh. We're talked about whether or not like,
because is the real trae of using our factory? And
at what point does this sustainability question get decided? In
five of a fake tree? You fake or real?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Unreal? I just smell yeah, yeah, I like the real tree.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I don't like the tidying up.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
No, that's true.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
My rubber vacuum point it doesn't like it. Can you
leave me an ornament to hang up? Oh?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I love that's all right. Fantastic stars you haven't got
to read.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
My six foot three okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
But anyway, thank you, Kelly, thank you, thank you sing me.
You're a bit light on for Liz Dirt, so next
time that's your pointy work on, you just have a
little think about that.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Separate well.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
You know, I'm always just screet, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
You can scroake here at no dribble. Did you not
read your pound? But yes, thank you for joining us.
I'm Caroline Swindell, I'm Pat Cox, and I'm Killie Diffrey.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Have a great wake, dribblers, by bye.
Hello, and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
talk about netball, but we talk about so much more.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And that laughter you will hear in the.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Background is because the three of us just looked at
each other and went, yeah, we've got no idea, let's
just get started. Very exciting this week. Got a new
friend in the studio. I'm Carol, It'swindel, I'm Catcox and
a huge welcome to a wait you do the honest?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well what do we call her? Because she's very special
to this pod. She's the godmother of godmother? Are you
happy with that?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Kid?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I will take that. I will take that. Hello, Hello,
thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Is that as good as the Gorge draw book?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
As long as it's no horse hits in my bed?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We call you the godmother of No Dribble because of course,
you were the one who had the catchphrase Netbaulers do
it without drinking.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now, can you how did that come about? Because I
remember you had on a T shirt that had netball
do it without drew And this is when I first
started playing. Yes, so where did that I do?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It was quite tragic because it was it was actually
the launch of mobile super leg do you remember that.
So I was at Fake nineteen eighty five and I
was working with netball astraight at the time, and by
having a launch and remember that that was a big deal.
That was giving a million dollars and that was the
biggest sponsorship for women's sport at the time. So we
were having this press conference to announce the launch of
(01:27):
this sponsorship and blah blah blah, and so I was
organizing it, and then I went off and we get
these T shirts made for all the journeys that rock up.
They get a little goodie bag and it had the
mobile logo on it as Mobile superleg Netbulers do it
without dripping. It's just great gray T shirt so all
the blokes could wear it as well. Did not get
it checked by anyone. So the first doll, the the
(01:50):
CEO and the chair see if it is at the
thing going what is this and I'm like, yeah, it's great.
I love them. So anyway, probably should have had them
checked first.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So did you use them? Yeah, as soon as I
saw it, I wanted one. So all these years later
when we were trying to come up with a name,
that's the first thing that came to my mind. You
came up with that quite quickly, but only because of Killing.
Let you go, so we bow down.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well, but you are dribbling though.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
This is and that's that's the d irony of these podcasts,
all driple. So give us a bit of background. You
guys know each other from netball.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm just going to through it out there.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny that.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And you know, like most people, when you ask them
who their idol is in the game or someone they
look up to when they're playing, they always say someone
in their position. But I have always said Killy. Killy
was a gold offense and a goal keeper, mainly goalkeeper,
but I always say because she was just one of
the funniest people in the team. Great player, sure, but
I mean I wasn't trying to emulate my game on
(02:51):
a goalkeepers obviously, but I just loved being in a
team of Kills because she was fun, always cracking jokes,
always being naughty. It's like, oh, straight away, I love.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
This girl, and I think that's important. You mightn't have
your on court stuff, you weren't using Mesia role model,
but you're off court, so that I think is probably
more important. Correct, especially in the days when you didn't
have social media to teach you those things about being
on a netball tour. But I'm kind of glad that
there wasn't, so that's kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm still a little scarred though, from when we landed.
We'd be to New Zealand to play a tournament. New
South Wales always went to New Zealand with Mark Corbett
and we played in something over there, and then we'd
always go to the bend In Factory.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yes it was the Australian Champions would play the New
Zealand Champions and it was like the Bendon League. And
is that where we got the Bendamos, Well that would
make sense, yeah, yeah, but always go to the Bendin Outlet.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And it was unreal except that was bad for me
because I was still at school so I didn't have
a job. So these guys would go in there and
spend hundreds of dollars on jileware or any boobs. Correct,
So I'll go in there and bother us a london
of jocks and late. But anyway, so you back, we
were in Sydney waiting at the carousel for the luggage
to come out, and everyone's just standing around, it's quiet,
(04:07):
Kelly at the top of a voice, so coxy, have
you had a root yet? In front of everyone? And
to this day still speak to my therapist about good Yeah. Yeah,
today it's kind of scarred. So guys, I just remembers
going right red, like kill me.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I'm not sorry for that. I could have saved you
a lot of money in therapy by just telling me.
And I could have said sorry, yeah, just.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
On the download, you know. Anyway, So as much as
I loved it, there was a moment there that I
also was like, oh god, you know what first thing
I do is pass it on tonight.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Excellent? Excellent.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
But Carol and I feel like, now that we've got
Kelly here and we don't have Liz here, it's the
perfect time to get some goss solid. That's what I'm
looking for because you play with her for years.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yes, but I do. I have a lot of dirt.
I'll probably do but stuff I can't say, well, yeah
I could, because she's not either say yeah sorry afterwards,
yeah exactly, yeah no, but I did play with Liz,
so that was Yeah, I will think about it. But yeah,
when her first game I was I was there. It
was lovely. Then. I do remember one trip day there
was I can't remember where we met and it was
(05:23):
the three of us in a room together. Three rooming
together was ridiculous, but it was me, Liz and Vicki Wilson,
like could you shick the three biggest people? And we
couldn't fit in the beds and when this time, Yeah,
it was ridiculous. It was just crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, And Liz was so scrawny when she started, wasn't she.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Funny?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Looking back up?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Big started their career and where they end.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Up, right, so you'll think about that thing you want
to tell me about Catherine. No, So how long did
you guys play together? And where and why? And he
was in how did you DoLS? We didn't crossover with
Oz know when did you retire from Australia?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Ninety four? I think yeah, ninety four, So you only
had a one year with Liz.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
She played she played Gozi City yep, yeah, but no
we played New South Wales opens out for a few
years and that was when New South Wales one. Everyrief
thing they used to give the Golden Boot Award red
the world talking about this that.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
They were in the table at the at the yah.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Dunlop, yeah, balie or whatever the shoe was, what was
it Hatch twenty So wasn't it no catch?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh my god of KC twenty six was one thing.
And then there was the netball one they made. It
was supposed to be specifically for netball, but it wasn't
catch savn was catch evn catch seven? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, anyway, it was this dunlock shoe. So they'd spray
paint this thing gold and then mounted on I think
as a trading. The New South Flalest won them all
and it was Kill's era. I came in I think
probably in the end of them and won a couple.
When News early played the played the game ninety four.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Four okay, so ninety four ninety five would have been
together in New South team.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah. See.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I was an eye opener for a whole range of reasons,
mainly off court, little Catherine learning a thing or two
about life. Well, I have to tell you, I'm going
to change the subject off netb for a moment. We
will talk about network because that's what we sometimes do better. Oh,
just a bit of a flex.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I was at the ashes last week, as we all know,
was therefore a great day of cricket that I thought
was going to end up looking very sour, but the
next day it was fantastic. But I would like to
I need some counseling over something that happened at the airport.
I'm sure it won't be unfamiliar to you. I'm standing
at the baggage carousel, and I stand a decent distance
from the baggage carousel brick because I'm not a lunatic,
(07:45):
and I know that if everyone stands back, then everyone
can see what's going on, right, and you move forward
when it's there was a woman there. I swear to
god this was a hidden camera prank that she was
playing on met because every time I moved, she moved
and stood directly in front of me, one foot in
front of me. And then I'd sigh and shuffle a
bit to the left, and she would shuffle a bit
(08:06):
to the left. It was just if like for ten
minutes this went on, and it was like her entire
thing was if I don't stand in front of this
very short woman, I will not be able to see
my bag and claim it. And it took all my
patients not to give us some feedback on that.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I know what the who came first mine? Yeah, so
did you sort of get rush?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I mean I have to get past excuse me?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It was. Yeah, where is it?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
There's some inports where they'll have a line basically a
tape line and back to be hind. Now behind that
and don't go in front of it until you get
your back.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I think people, ilady, stand behind those lines at immigration
where there's someone and you know, look, if I get
arrested here for crossing the line, I could be eight
hours in questioning for now a parent rect the best
I do. Yeah, So that was. It was absolutely infuriating.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Just just people. Stupidity general drives me batty.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Airports stupidity particularly.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, seems to be a mass. Oh my god, speaking
of airports, you will not believe this. So last week
we're talking about coming in for landings and how you
had three false attempts, and then we asked Darryl for
the terminology, which he gave us.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So what was your flapper on which I don't know
Darryl honestly, And what I would love is if Daryl.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Was your flaps are always on either.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
If it was he you know, we do, we do
trust him and his judgment and his advice. But it
would be great if he were to just now start
feeding this crappy is summation because it's like, well, you
are meant.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
To do all the pointless job skills. I will, but
I might not do it with any rigut. So I
would applaud if that's what you did.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, likewise, but I don't know flapper on there. I
thought it was Ailerontain.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, but did you have a no? So what were
yours called? Where he said you're still in the air
but you do the Well, they were a bord landing. Okay.
So the other one you mentioned was a touch and go. Yeah.
I had a freaking touch and go. I could not
believe it after we just talked about it. When I
flew back from Melbourne on Tuesday. Wow, freaking scare as
(10:13):
if the weather what happened? Well, no, the weather looks nice.
But we came into land and the back wheels were
down and you could feel still up. Yeah, so you're like, shit,
when's the front coming out? Like it just wasn't coming down.
And then next minute the jets go on and we
take off again and there's radio silence like obviously at
that point, the captains is concentrating on flying the plane.
(10:34):
But when you come out of those it's quite aggressive
because you're not supposed to be coming out of that huh.
So it's steep and then it's quite sharp turning because
in my head, I'm also thinking about all the other planes.
Anytime you look out the window, you can see the
line up. Yeah, and one's taking off. So I was
starting to freak out a bit, and I looked to
the Fortunately, I had two hotties next to me. When
(10:55):
I need to side and take middle seats, there was
only a middle seed on this plane, and I'd too
good looking men on the east side. I was like, Okay,
if I'm going to die today, I mean good coup.
But anyway, I looked at one of them. I was like,
well that's different, and he goes, yeah, do you think
you'd rather you'd like to know what was going on
or you'd rather not. I was like, yeah, I definitely
(11:15):
would rather not know what was going on. Anyway, radio
silence for like ten to fifteen minutes. We finally get
up on a cruising around here, and then the pilot
comes over and said, oh, sorry about that. Folks seemed
quite cheerful. Okay, breath. We had a big gust of
wind right when we're about to lag. Yeah, and they
just thought it would be too dangerous, so they just
(11:37):
took off again. Buddy, Hell, I know so. And we
were talking about it though one of the charts. But
the ten minutes of radio silence, you can imagine up
front that there's a fair bit of chat going on there.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
What do we tell them?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, yeah, like I try to even if you're paddicking,
try to sound car when you come over. All my
years of flying never happened. We were could talk about it,
and then that happens the next week.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
It's a really good one to lean into when you're
getting one of those sort of emergency take offs, to
really constrict your amps and go up and it's like ap.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Work out there because you've got the resistance. It was
definitely but clinching. I can assure you. I did start
to get a bit sweet, did you. Yeah, scary, Sorry,
that's not cool.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
That was nothing to do with the guys beside you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
No, No, it was before minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So the arm rests if you're in the middle seat,
back arm rest, so you do something that's that's the rule.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I was aware though, because I was in an exit row. Yeah,
so the two next to me were tall as well,
which is even more appeally freak share. But I was,
I was actually aware of that and how that was
going to play out. But we're on one of the
brand new air buses. They're fancy anyway, heats of room,
so I was. I was quite happy to share it
over those two. So one of the dribblers was a
little bit upset. So we were talking about the falangeets
(12:52):
last week this episode of Friends, and she said, was
anyone else screaming at the at the podcast? I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I love the winds like rage as well as joy
that it was Rachel on the plane saying the falange
So I went back and watched the episode. Phoebe was
in the car. It's trying to get Ross to the
airport on time. They went to tell Rachel he loved
him before she went to Paris, and she said to Rachel,
there's a problem with the Falangers. And then Rachel got
(13:20):
off the phone and the guy next to her said,
what was that? Because she'd said, I'm sure there's nothing
wrong with the plane, and then she brought up the FALANGI,
so was Rachel on the phone, but it was Phoebe's
made up word. But were very important that we correct
the record on the Falangie debarcle the FLANGI y, let's
(13:41):
go Flancy gave.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You falancy game from someone's mouth. Apologies guys, and we
are there.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, okay, So should we talk about some netball?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So which part? How about five five that was on
the weekend was on the weekend?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And why didn't you get invited to play YouTube? Now, listen, Cole,
I didn't. I don't invited debates my torn miniscus, I
think is there.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I don't want to say their ageist, but I did
not get invited to play hard.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
No, you still killing you'd kill it, I know, but.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
She's still especially a shooter. You just got to stand
there and shoot. You don't have to do anything.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah. I was excited to try to play. But the
problem is the majority of them were ex players. So
if you could do that, if you're playing against you
D league and people that haven't played before, but our
like mother daughter Lee. But there was some guns and
the team that won was the Phoenix. And listen to
this line up though, if these guys hadn't want Yeah,
(14:54):
why do we not put money a ball up? Yeah,
Casey Kapua, Katrina Rore, cat Tour, Varti, Laura Lanman, Kim Green,
Taylor Davies, just to name a few. They won twenty
thousand dollars for winning this tournament. Kim Green ended up
in hospital having to have surgery on browsing singer. No,
this is the reason I would never. But from all
(15:16):
the cads, that looked like a Tops weekend, and there
were plenty of dribblers on our Facebook page posting photos
there they're having fun.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, it looked so.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
There were sixteen teams I believe, yes, and lots of
ex superstars. Net Medhearst was there playing, April Bromley was there,
Gubby Simpson, a lot of the Kiwis came over to play.
Fantastic unreal. It was fabulous. So guys next year, like
an invitation please to play? To play really yeah, I'm
not going to do.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
But it's just thought of, like to be able to
reject the invitation.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
There's a part. Yeah, fair enough, and that's looked exactly
like it was. So that was the phoenix.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So I thought of Casey Cooper had hung up the boots,
but to sun Corps Super Apple boot.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Same the serious moods our text cat to a Varti
this morning. You see if she was alive? I said,
are you dead? And she said only from the neck down?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Okay, yeah, well they got okay, very good.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Would you be up for that?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
No? No, no, my niece wouldn't cope. I actually that
was your last Oh my god. I have to make
a confession here, which I was hoping no one to
ever find out about. But I actually just recently played
in the Masters Games in camera in walking netball. I know, Wow,
(16:38):
it was weird. I'd spent the first two games just
working out what the hell I was doing. It was
just really weird.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Am I the same rules?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yes, I think you can. You can take an extra step,
so it's more so that if people have to shuffle
a little bit and take an extra step, you can't
jump at all. So you can't jump. So no, so
that was the thing, automatically going for a rebound to
change up, But not that I probably in my mind
think I was jumping.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
An it didn't really make any difference, but Simhio, but
my niece is stuff. So I was like, there was
this team of girls that have been the Commodorees. Shout
out to the Commodore's group of wonderful ladies that have
been Richie got his start catching up together. I think
they've been playing together for like twenty years and it's
(17:27):
this group, the core of the group, and they play
in the Masters games, pan packs and every year. I
was working with a couple of them a few years ago, Oh,
come on, play on us. I can't and he's the
stuff and he's the stuff. So then this year they've gone, oh,
no excuse for doing walking netball, You've got to play.
And I'm like, oh, I know, he's a steel stroll.
But they had a sports visio in the team, so
she kind of pieced me together and it looked it
was fun. It was like, you know, you know, it's
(17:49):
like being on a netball tour. It's all the fun
stuff around it, which was lovely and such a great bunch.
But as far as the netball, I certainly didn't do
myself any favors, or anyone watching would have been like, oh,
didn't she used to be able to plane?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I feel like anyone that's even slightly competitive would bust out. Well,
that's me and that's what I was worried about.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
To you, Yeah, stole out, Yeah, you won't get extra
fast exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
The most funny thing that the organizers that act Netball
had to run most of it, and they're fantastic and
they said, oh, you wouldn't believe it. The biggest problems
they're they're having with, you know, fights on court with
the over sixty five's walking category.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So everyone else was pretty good and you know, all
in the spirit and having good time, but there's a
few in the over sixty five swarfing you.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Job.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Don't we just getting quite physical because there's no contact.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Rather than it's not a physical No, I don't think
so each other.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Maybe maybe because the's supposed to be no contact, because
there was supposed to be no contact at all, So
I think there was probably a little bit of archie bargie.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And anyway, how many days was this?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I was eight days? Yeah, one game of day.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You feel it at the end even though you walk, Yes,
probably because my knees were so sore.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
So I my orthopedic surgeoncines and he's just like you're
headed for a replacement. You know, but anyway they're dropping
like flying.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
This is a dangerous, dangerous Oh wow, that's fascinating. I
had so many questions about that walking.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
But it's fun and it's just great that people that
have this lifelong love of the game. And I think
that's the thing with netball. This you want to play forever.
And there are so many women there that you know
they just played forever and now they could keep playing
because there's there's all as options as net set go.
It's part of the continuum off the game. Not great
(19:51):
to watch, but and it goes to Walker.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
After I will point out that next guy is not
great to watch either. Oh god, Darling, these boots on
a bock and that's just what they'll do. One of
these easy boots.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Un a love over.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
So where was your last official a running gag after
you retired?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You did not? Odd, No, I played must have played
basketball because I used to play basketball as well. I
played red basketball, and I thought that was just great
for netball, like blocking out, rebounding, all that sort of stuff.
But so I played a bit more basketball because you
could you just have a bit more control, and especially
being in defense, you're always reacting and again that kicks
(20:42):
in that whole competitive thing. Oh I can get that,
and you're like, you idiot, No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Checking menopausal and menopausal women basketball gives a certain outlet
for the.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Aggression hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I've just started hormone replacement therapy.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
How's that going out?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We're great, it's good. Turns out that I was right
that all of my family are wrong most of the time.
But if they're so, the hormone replacement therapy helps a
little bit, which.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It should be the disclaimer on the box. You may
find out that you've been rolls a few times. No, no, well,
let's I will point out that I was not wrong.
I may have significantly overreacted to everything for several months.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, I'm still rights bitchy. When I'm right, I can.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yes, the children are very happy to remind meditate my
medication tablet today, by which I think is brave. You
haven't had a cup of tea made for you in years.
It's suddenly they're being in. We're there with a tablet
next to it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You got one of your lullums, on of your happy lullies.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh my god. Now should we talk about the sport
of hall of Fame dinner, of course, because that was
last Monday, and Liza and I were talking about and
going down there on the night. I was sitting between
Shierrol McMahon ye and Liz Ellis have great trouble. Well,
I haven't had a chance to sit and have a
drink with those two with no official anything going on,
because Charelle's now the GM of the Vixens, so she's
(22:20):
in serious netball mode. This is obviously in serious network mode.
It was so chill and just a fun night. None
of us had to do anything. All these had to
get up and give an award to Billy mc clark
because she got you bad so legend status, which was awesome.
But the funniest thing though, when you're inducted, it's quite
special that you get to choose anyone that's already in
the Hall of Fame to present you, and typically a
(22:42):
netball would choose a netball or whatever else. But I
could have had Dawn Fraser do it. I could have
had Greek Horman do it, whoever you wanted. Anyway, we
started talking about that and Annie Sargent was also on
our table and she was the one that did the
whole intro for me and gave me my award when
I was inducted, and Phil's who was Liz? Actually, I
(23:02):
don't know that she can remember what I mean, Annie,
That's surprising, isn't it. Just couldn't remember something. And then
Liz said who did Jaws? And Cherill just went blank
for a minute. I was like, oh God, you can't
remember either. Here's us talking about this being a big moment.
But it was Liz that did it, and Liz had
forgotten that she had done Cherelle's. But Cherelle had forgotten
(23:24):
Chre like because she's like, are you joking? Was you?
You idiot? So oh, Lizelle, it's your funny. She's got
too much on a plate these days, can't remember what's
going on. But Laura Gutt's got up. What an ambassador
for our sports, such a great speaker. It's a tough
room because there's nearly a thousand people in it, you know,
when people are eating, yeah, playouts and Knights of Orcs
(23:47):
and glasses and all that sort of stuff. The room
went silent when she got up there because she's just
she's such a figure, and she's obviously gorgeous, and she
spoke so beautifully you could hear a pin drop. But
she was funny. Just the whole thing was amazing. And
another one in the Hall of Fame, which is exciting.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And who else went up that night? Cameron Smith? Yes, god,
who else was in there? Torah Bryight, yep Leyton Hewittt Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah,
some greeting, Yeah, in that one. It's great.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And he kept yourself nice. I didn't see you on
the front page of the Herald Sun.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
No we didn't, but we did check our slippers into
the cloak room and got those on the way out
of walked out where those and I said we were
going to know we were very well both.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Good job, yeah, fun and you looked very nice too.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You're from Yeah. I did my own lashes. Yeah, don't
do that. No. I bought idiot proof ones too that
were already like self sticking. You literally have to line
them up and put them on.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, no, instood, I STU.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, no, I leave that to the professional. Yeah, I know,
but I thought with these ones you can't get wrong.
You can, that's something that you can.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Someone else who got very dressed up quite recently is
our producer Alex who just snuck off and got her
self married, and our congratulations Alex and Luke and I
had been the Thursday before she got married on the Saturday,
and I got a text from her on Monday saying, well,
I had a wedding on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm just bit tired. I might do the edit tomorrow.
Is that okay?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
She'd say, I got married on the weekends. I had
a wedding, and so you know, we all have a
wedding on the weekend and you've been tired.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
And one no, no, last so it was mine.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, And then and then she accidentally texted me something
that was meant to go to her aunt. Because I
got this message, it's like I've only got these ones,
these couple from Dom and it's like I was just
sending her a note saying I think this might be
for someone else. And then a photo from a wedding
came through and I looked at it and went, I
think that's Alex. And the day before her wedding, maybe
(25:50):
two days, I had been asking her a million questions
about microphones at headphones, because last week we had you
girls down in Melbourne and we were meant to have
this head fine splitter that I organized, and then it
was the long one and blah blah blah. But anyway,
thank you Alex and very best wishes to you and Luke.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What a llision? Yeah? Lightly shit girl though I like that. Yeah,
just set up wedding.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Sorry you Reckon Albo talks about his wedding a lot
in cabinet Do they have to? You know what it's
like when you're working with someone who's planting and wedding.
It's a nightmare elbow speaking the first half ar of
a cabinet. Managin colors a blush and bashful and do
you think can we go for ites? Do you know
what the blush and bashful reference is?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Really, still Magnolias, oh macalor is a blush and bashful
Oh no?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Which brings us to groups we've I've got an old
netble group called still Magnolige. You know you have your groups?
What do you call them?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So ours is nettie goals?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Oh okay? One group is still Magnolias that we catch
up with, and then the other one which we just
had the ANNUALDRENE meeting for two weekends last weekend? Was
it of the om n C which is the old
moles in It Ball Club. And yeah, so that's Carissa,
Tom's Sue, Kenny, Nikki Cusack, Shelly O'Donnell, Sammi Kinness and
(27:09):
I and we can catch every year. Yeah, so we
go away every and this time we just went to
Criisa's place at Coloroid, so went out there. It's fantastic. Yeah,
a great weekend. So it's still oh my goodness, yes, yes, no.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Stories to tell.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Oh not a hospital visit but perhaps could have should
have been, but it was. That was fun, lots of fun.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Tell me about your netble career where what was your
junior club?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Where did you start playing?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I started playing at Blacktown South Blacktown Netball Club and
there was a lady there that they had this beautiful
mauve uniform. That's that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, yeah, was she tracksuit when you walked on?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
No, I know you did have a tracksuit. Actually my
first year I had a cardigan that the lady crossed
the road from me, you know, to go with my
netball uniform.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
No imagine imagine trying to get any teen or tween
girl to wear that.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Man, Yeah, like fablays, I don't know, but that's the thing,
like I would have been what nine or something, Yeah,
and then played junior reps at Blake toown through you know,
junior state champs and all the rest, and we actually
had a really good team. We won under fifteen's one
year we won, which was big that is for that association. Yeah,
we won under eighteen, it is, and we won under
twenty one. So we had a really good team going
(28:33):
through great coach Sandra Marks. She was just so just
so enthusiastic and you know, I think that one year
she's coaching a thousand, thousand months pregnant and just didn't
stop her. She was, you know, really enthusiastic, loved it
out of box and so.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Important though he had too hundred just that make you
enjoy the sport. And we've talked about this a lot
because there are some that don't do now and the
kids obviously don't want to cut no.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
And it's so there seems to be so many rules
and regulations, and the thing is the sport's not in
a position to be too strict because there's so much
more competition now. When we played, every girl played Network,
so yeah, whereas now you've got competition from soccer, AFLW,
cricket for lots of competition.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Do you got to Did we talk about the money
earners for women's sport last week? No, I think it
was in the paper. It was somewhere I saw last
week and had the top five and it's women's sport's third.
It was cricket first, Women's cricket and women's AFL and
I was gobsmacked the difference. So, yeah, we do have
a lot of competition.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
And it's not just at that elite level. It's getting
that lot of the base. So it's it's always been.
I think that was relied on the fact that every
girl plays nemtple. Well it's not the case now, So
you have to do more to keep them and especially
those teenagers, keep them engaged and if they're into reps
and showing a bit of promise, keeping them, keep me
engaged because off and they are doing a lot of
(30:02):
other sports as well. Why was they not doing dancing?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
That's my daughter on Saturday she danced one. No, I'm
so not. I'm a dance mom. I think dance is wonderful, right,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
But do you go full dance mom?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Like? No?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And when't he thought it?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And we've got the right dance school where it was
run because that was everyone go and get an eating
disorder and make your hair perfect, you know, and so
there's none of one of that nonsense.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
But yeah, I think there's dancing, and there's dancing. Yes,
the concert was good. It was cute. And it's cute
when you see all the little little kids come out
and they are all off with the fairies. They all
watch the person in front of them, the person have
frod cox.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
That just looking for their parents in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It was a disaster. It's so funny. I half loves
it our concept.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
It's four hours or something. It feels like an eternity.
And I like Dotty to do quite a lot of
dance because then I go to it. It used to
be i'd go and I'd see her once in the
first act and once in the second act, and then
there's three hours and fifty two minutes of so now
it's like every third or four song much order comes on.
It's like, that's great, that's but a man.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
It's tough. It's so tough.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But you know, I really object to the parents at
the concerts, whether it's the dance concert or school concert
or whatever my kid's done, we're going home. So no, mate,
this is a team sport.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
We are in this, the.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Audience is in this together. We have to we have
to applaud one another's children for their efforts.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
However, lay, no, not for four hours. I agree with
our constant an hour. That's enough, Like as everyone's.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Like a two four quarters. Oh you need not for
four hours.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh, I'm one hundred percent to be out of there
straight after my kid. That's a lot. It's not really four,
it's like two and a half, but either way, it
feels like four. Harpa told me she was danced like
four nine and sixteen. What do you think I was
doing in between her dads counting? Okay, yeah, well that's
that's what the program is for, right, isn't it? She
(32:03):
got right? Where are we? Well, fancy, we don't have
a problem. Have you broken the back of this year?
Where are we? Are we on the way out? It
said halftime? But she made me. She was there when
I booked the ticket, and she made me book the
front row. In the also she could see me.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, nice, there was no snow getting out.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Have good eyesight because you would stand out in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
This blonde beacon.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
No, I think I guess one people behind because see
that that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
They can't really say. But yes, that was good times anyway,
done for another year. And where do you put the
dirty big costumes? She got the two too, you know
the ones that go ass. So now you've done another
lot of those. She does ballet, jazz and acros. It's
free costume, different costumes, and wants to keep them all
we horrors, we hire them, we send them back.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Sounds like in it's changed schools.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Well, yes, if anyone needs as for anything, let me know,
get half a line in it. I wouldn't be fast.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So that keeler you've had postnatboy, you've had a very
interesting career in TV.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yes, tell us.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Well, when I was at the AIS, I actually did
a degree in sports journalism. So when we went to
the AS, we had to be either working or studying
or doing something because we would train at like six
thirty in the morning five because it wasn't professional then,
so it was it was almost like they were gearing
you up to managing it with your life. So I
did a sports studies. Of course, they're majoring in journalism.
(33:36):
Cooy's something I sort of wanted to get into. And
then you know, I did a bit of writing, had
a column in The Herald. Yeah there was Remember there
was a magazine called Sports Weekly. I just have a
calling that as well. And then when Fox Sports started,
it was Premier Premier Sports the first year, and I
got a job there and I was doing a bit
of reporting, newsreading, presenting, and then as soon as your
(33:58):
face falls off, you become a producer, and that's what
I did. So yeah, so I produced there mostly. I
did a show called The Backpage.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Oh my god, that's finished.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, I know, I know one for years or something.
So I started it and it was Mike Gibson the
host and with Peter Fitz Peter fre lingas Wow. Yeah,
just Billy Birmingham just the most wonderful time. They were
just so good to work with. Did that for about
ten years, the first ten years of it's run, and
then Nebor got the rights to Fox got the rights
(34:31):
to the a n Z Champs. Then remember the start
of that. That was the first sort of national league
and it was five Australian teams, five New Zealand teams,
so launched that I was working at Fox and basically
you know, produced all of that, got it up and
running and it was like going gangbusters. And then all
of a sudden tail ten came along and oh, well
like that, so I thought I was So then I
went on to rugby and produced Rugby Union, did a
(34:54):
studio show and then started doing live outside broadcasts, went
to two Rugby World cus. I was in London for
eight weeks John a Rugby World Cup over there in
twenty fifteen. It was just fantastic. Yeah, great, It was
good because then I wasn't doing just my sport. I've
done so much more than that. And then so when
the SSN came up and started at nine, I was
(35:16):
sort of head hunters there to say well can you
get this up and running for us? And had five
years there so and it was great, But it was
just then getting to work with you know, we'll still
play u s. I'll call it playing with CAF and
Liz and two and all those guys. So guys that
you played with. Being on a Netbil trip again without trainingsticorious.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Hub that we talk about. Yeah, Kim, we was in
the Hui.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yes, we had family Night every Thursday night, which was
basically the Oly day we weren't working, and we weren't
working the next day, so we would have family Night,
which just involved dinner, lots of drinks, and downstairs every week.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It was such great farm, but it was because of
the company that we managed to stay.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, I still remember that. There was one breakfast like
we're all handling it pretty well and we we'd gone
for a walk one day and had.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Breakfast, a really good milkdown, and then it was.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Like all sudden, someone was like, oh, you know, I
just talked to kids and blah blah, and then started crying.
Might have been this, and then cast started crying, and
then I started crying, and it got to stage We're
all sitting at breakfast and were all just crying, and
we're like, okay, let's.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Go on us. We missed the chip.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, And it was just it was a lot. We
were away from home for eight weeks and it was
and it was intense, Like it was two games. It
was four eight games a week, So Tuesday night two games,
Wednesday night two games, and then Saturday Sunday two games
extradray and in between you're prepping those and getting ready
for it. So there was not much downtime.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
So it was essentially two rounds each week playing.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
So normally before four matches around and we had eight,
so it was and we were doing every single one
a lot, and it was getting ridiculous. It was we
were getting blithering, which was funny, and the bing chicken
stories and it was. Yeah, but it was a lot
of fun. I think because it was such a good
group we got through it. Because we did have a
lot of fun. It were just delirious. Yeah, yeah, we
won that championship that was Vixen's. Yeah, only because I
(37:15):
remember just going out for a drink with Simone and
Die the coaches the night before the Thursday night. I
was at Thursday night. I was at Thursday night before.
I said one means to meet for coffee and it
did'ner up coffee. So yeah, that was so I remember
meeting meeting up with them. But yeah, they won, they
beat the fever.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's beauty of coaching, isn't it, rather than playing. I
can have a drink march made of the only coaching
have you coached?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I coached my daughter's team at club level. No, I'm hopeless,
and I get to a competitive yeah yeah, and I'm
out now. Actually coaching at French from school. So yeah,
so of course we've been living down there for a
few years. I got roped into coaching there and I've
had the first for the last two years, and then
(38:03):
I had the junior Bees as well this year, and yeah,
and I just keep forgetting that they're.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
School girls and I'm like, I'm what a legend you
are though, or do they just think you've just come
in to coach. Has anyone told them?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I think they I think they research it. They they
always I got this beautiful card at the end of
the season. They make them these great big cupboard cards.
They're fantastic, and they've found all these terrible fighters for
me and then and I had one year that they
had the ninety one team and they had all of
their heads on the other players. But yeah, which was
(38:36):
a huge. Yeah, so they're yeah, it's awesome. They're gray
ain't know, eight girls. Yeah, but they're great because a
lot of country girls there too, and they're just great.
They all love sport down there. It's fantastic. They will
get involved. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Well, it's been so great to have you here. Not
fabulous to have the godmother in my house. Well, do
you have to quickly mention that the silver Ferns wrapped
up that series in England. They cool mean for when
Yeah you did cool it, well done. So that's exciting
for next year. I'm looking forward to it, just if
anyone was wondering.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
But yes, our Catherine. Finally, before I go, I have
brought for you.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I will be putting my Christmas tree up on the
thirtieth of November.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I'm breaking.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Progress, tide and fast for all.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
On not before December, but to have as many members
of the family here as we can. It's either then
or the fifteenth of Descender. I think it would disapprove
of going that late.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
So are you a real trail of fake tree?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's fake yeh. We're talked about whether or not like,
because is the real trae of using our factory? And
at what point does this sustainability question get decided? In
five of a fake tree? You fake or real?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Unreal? I just smell yeah, yeah, I like the real tree.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I don't like the tidying up.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
No, that's true.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
My rubber vacuum point it doesn't like it. Can you
leave me an ornament to hang up? Oh?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I love that's all right. Fantastic stars you haven't got
to read.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
My six foot three okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
But anyway, thank you, Kelly, thank you, thank you sing me.
You're a bit light on for Liz Dirt, so next
time that's your pointy work on, you just have a
little think about that.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Separate well.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
You know, I'm always just screet, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
You can scroake here at no dribble. Did you not
read your pound? But yes, thank you for joining us.
I'm Caroline Swindell, I'm Pat Cox, and I'm Killie Diffrey.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Have a great wake, dribblers, by bye.
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