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April 30, 2025 52 mins

This week I'm exploring what’s going on with the planets, as we thankfully draw to a close the last huge unprecedented shift of ‘once in a lifetime’ planetary signatures. There will be more to follow, but April was probably the craziest astrological month we'll ever know. Well done for surviving it. 


And I explore the power of necessity. A theme I've been mulling over a lot recently and keeps coming up against. What's necessary right now in your life and what's fluff? Where is best to place your energies? Your time is precious. Make sure its spent in ways that are necessary for your well being and happiness.

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The.

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Welcome to The Nonsense in theChaos.
I'm your host Jolie Rose.
We are days away from Beltane,which I love.
It is my don't tell the otherdays my favorite day of the
year.
It is the.
Time of year that I got marriedto my darling husband, dle, and

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I picked this time of yearbecause once when I was on tour
with the Fools, we stayed inthis gorgeous little hamlet and
it was absolutely covered inbluebells.
And it turned out that the localfarmer had lost his wife and she
loved bluebells.
And so he'd covered the hamletin bluebells and every spring he

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thought of her and it was likeshe came to life around him
through the bluebells poppingup.
And it made me appreciate howmagical that time of year is for
you to notice life coming aboutfor these things to be, A
message almost because there wasnothing.

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There was death, there wasdecay, there was bleakness, and
then all of a sudden there'sthis life just bursting forth
and.
Where that came from?
What magic especially, now weunderstand through science
what's happening, but there wasa time where we didn't
understand any of this and wejust beheld it.

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And what an incredible thing towitness each year for us to be
following those si cycles of theseason and, and it not be just a
given that things are gonnahappen.
We, we started measuring.
The sun coming up and placingrocks in certain places and then
observing that they do keepcoming up in the same place, and

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so therefore we can.
Create, land temples and spaceswhere we can celebrate and
worship are, I suppose it'salmost celebrating our kind of
scientific and technologicalbreakthrough of having noticed
time and being able to measureit because that's it.
Yeah.
It's almost the equivalent ofthe AI of its time was for us to

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have put us put a rock in aplace that did.
Hit, the light hit that rock atthe right time each year that we
are able to go, ah, okay, sothis is a continuous thing.
So we know this now, this issomething that we know and, we
had to.
Farming, it's been suggested.

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Something I heard suggested oncewas that the straw dolls that we
make in the springtime you havein bulk, which is St.
Bridget, who was the goddessBridget, she's like the
beginning of the spring journey.
So she's the snowdrops moment intime.
And you'd make these straw dollsas part of the.

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In bulk celebrations.
But the making of these dollsmeant that you shedded seeds.
And so where the women sat andmade these dolls, plants grew,
the next lot of wheat or corn orwhatever it was, whatever the
crop pos that you were makingthese dolls out of.
Suddenly there was all theseplants growing and that meant
these birds, these dolls werefertility dolls.

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We make these dolls and then wehave.
Crops grow.
And so that was the thinking asto how we then discovered
farming.
'cause eventually we were like,oh, it's maybe not the dolls.
Maybe it's the seeds falling.
I just like that idea.
I dunno if that's true.
I have no way of proving whetherthat's true.
But I heard that once and Ithought it was an interesting
idea that it began with thedolls and them seeming like a

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fertility symbol.
And then us then noticing andgetting into farming.
And I love the idea as well,that plant spirit is so strong.
Tobacco's, the top of the plantspirit hierarchy, and it has
such a strong control overhumanity and that wheat
domesticated humans, which is inSapiens, that book that came out

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about five, six years ago, thatin that it suggests wheats is
now the most prolific life forceon the planet.
So did.
We domesticate wheat or didwheat domesticate us because
we're at a disadvantage byeating wheat because we eat
significantly less nutrients.
We're no longer nomadic.
We're stuck in places having todo jobs and money and all the

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stuff that's come with the laborand industry of farming.
But we didn't have before.
We were just hunts and gather,and that meant that we were free
and, and we ate better.
So have we really benefited fromfarming other than like the
perceived comfort of being inone place, but actually in many

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ways we're not as comfortable.
We're protected from the weathermore, but we're unhealthy in
many ways that, you know, veryuncomfortable.
Say if you've got sciatica orI'm sat here now with my leg
with sciatica and.
RSI from being on the computerand, and I'm someone who's fit,
they're my ailments.
They're not that bad.
But if you have any kind ofchronic pain, is that

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necessarily better than beingoutside and being free?
And it's a gloriously sunnyweek, so it's a week for being
outside and being free.
I had a gorgeous moment todaywhere I've created a spirit path
with ruins from a beacon tree,which Gordon, who was on the
podcast talking about.
Talking to trees and connectingwith trees.

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He located two beacon trees onSark.
One outside the government,which I thought was interesting
'cause he didn't know that wasthe government building.
But there's a great big novellytree outside the government and
it turns out that's a beacontree.
And then the other beacon treeI.
I knew, we all know it if I putup a photo of this tree, anyone
who lives on Sark knows it.
It's a really special tree.
There's another one that Gordondidn't find, which I certain is

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a beacon tree.
'cause again, that's anothertree that we all know.
They tend to be oak trees andhis, I dunno.
You go back and listen to thepodcast, but part of the way
I've translated it is that.
The information from the cosmosis coming down through these
trees like they're the aerialsalmost, and then permeating out
through the mycelium network,passing on like the universe's

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intel into the natural world.
And this tree just vibrates likeit, it is, you are drawn to it
and.
He was saying that normally youcan tell what beacon trees are
in your childhood'cause they'rethe ones who used to climb as a
kid and they probably wear oaktrees.
They don't have to be oak trees,but they tend to be in, in the
uk.

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And yeah, this tree's gorgeousand it's right at the top of my
favorite walk.
I feel like if there is aspiritual.
Line or lay line in energy linein Sark.
Then it is this route down toports, Mulan, and it goes past a
place called Tin Taal, which isnamed after, not named.
They're from the same, theyweren't named after each other,

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but it's the same root word asthe one in Cornwall, and it's
from the Celtic peoples.
And so we had the Celts livinghere at one point, the Bretons,
and we.
It's just got like the monasterywas built along this route, so
obviously they connected withit.

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They felt something about thisspot.
So the moery, which was themonastery, was built along it,
and it just goes down to thisplace that this beach, this
stony beach that they, yeah, itjust vibrates.
It's where the sun sets.
So it's also a glorious place tobe in the afternoon.
And so at the last full moon, Ipicked two rooms.

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Ask, like having talked aboutthe things that were going on in
my life and what was happeningfor me, I picked two rings and
they went and made a pilgrimage.
Somewhere accessible.
That meant something to me sothat it was somewhere that I
could keep going back to andcontemplating.
And I chose this route.
And so I placed one of my ruinsin the beacon tree and that room

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was thero of community.
And here, community is I.
Basically, my main focus is whattakes up all my time.
And so I put this run in thetree and then I walked with
intention on a pilgrimage downthrough the route down to Port
de Moon on, you have the windowand the rock, you've got the
nook, and you go down to thebeach.

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And with my second room, I swamout into the sea.
And the second room was Tia,which is like a spear, and it's
about clear direction andclarity and focus.
So it's an arrow basically.
And I took that out into thescene.
I dropped it in the sea so thatthis journey is like right out
into the water and then back upagain.

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And now I've created that linewith these two rooms.
I can walk that for the next, I,hopefully I'm gonna be living
here for, I'm not even halfwaythrough my life yet.
'cause I once had a vision thatI lived to 114 and I'm only 46
now.
And I've got a long way to goyet, so I might be walking this

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for another, 40, 50 years.
And every time I walk it, itwill keep meaning different
things.
And today when I was walking it,I wasn't really paying attention
and I got smacked really hard inthe head by a branch.
And when I get hit in the head,I always see that as a message
from the universe telling me topay attention.
And it's happened quite a fewtimes where I've had head
injuries when I need to.

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I need to pay attention.
I need to be more present.
And yeah, I was walking alongthis route and I was texting and
listening to a podcast whilstdoing, and it was stunning.
We're talking about BeltaneEnergy here and I wasn't
appreciating the moment.
And yeah, got smacked in thehead really hard by a branch.
So that.
Woke me up, but I'd taken somesacred kow with me and I went

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down and I had a lovelyafternoon where it was boiling
hot and it was late enough inthe day that there wasn't any
fishermen or anyone around.
And people don't go down therethat much.
'cause it is a quite a steepclimb.
So it is not the most accessiblebeach.
And there's this little.
Archway, natural archway madeout of rock.
And when the tide's out, you cango through underneath it and

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there's like a kind of hiddenbeach.
Once you're in the water and youswim out, people can see you
from the window in the rock, butyou're quite far away and no one
can really see from the beach.
And so it's a great place forskinny dipping and naked
sunbathing.
And I just got naked and I layon the rocks and it was so warm
and it was beautiful, and thetide was out and I fell asleep
and I was having such a lovelysleep.

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And then my mum rang me and Isat up and realized that the
tide was coming in and it wasreally close.
I was very lucky that she rangme, although my feet would've
got cold and wet before Iactually got completely soaked.
Hopefully.
It depends on how quick the tidecomes up.
It's mad how quick the tidemoves.
Like it always blaze on mind.
I think I was only asleep forabout 20 minutes.
It wasn't that long and.

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I then got in the sea, had aswim, it was beautiful, and then
came back and dried off anddrank my CCO and then made my
way back up.
And yeah, it just means I've gotthese two rooms to contemplate
on forever and they'll keepmeaning new things.
So they already mean new thingsfrom when I wrote them.
So I wrote them two weeks agowhen I felt.

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A lot of scarcity around thesupport that I needed for
putting on the Beam Festival,which is this Saturday where I
felt very sad that peopleweren't.
Engaging with it.
It feels like people in Guernseylove it because it's their view
of Sark.
It's what Sark means to them.
They see it as this kind ofwickerman place when actually

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it's more of calling andgambling and so we have a
festival that's sheep racing andthat's basically drinking
Carling and betting on sheepracing and.
The whole community gets behindthat.
Anything that's to do withdrinking and eating burgers,
they'll love it.
Whereas this has obviously got abit more going on with it and
it's folk creativity, which iswhy I am frustrated, because I'm

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trying to get them to see thatthis is for them like folk.
Rituals are, first of all hugemoney makers in terms of
tourism.
Anywhere that has these oldtraditions that the whole
community comes out and takespart in.
People love it and they flockfrom all over the world to come
and be part of it and watch it,but also it's so good for the

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community, and it's not wussy orweird.
It, there's big men with beardsdoing it who are very passionate
about their impression of thehorse or, cross-dressing or
playing the mums or whatever itis that they do.
Um, Morris dancing, you know,everyone's like, oh, Morris
Dancing.
It's the thing that I've beentrying to get across is that

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this is our working class folk.
Creativity and art.
And if we've been convinced thatit's low grade and naf, that's
because we are being convincedcontinuously to purchase and buy
into commodified creativity thatis packaged and sold to us.
Personally, I would say thathalf of the pop music and TV and

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stuff that is being consumed isabsolute shy, and I would choose
a Morris dancer any day over thedribble that a lot of us have
become groomed to accept as ourkind of working class
entertainment.
I.
Yeah.
It's not just that you are doingsomething creative, it's that
you are outside and connectingto nature and connecting to the

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seasons which connects you toyour land, which reminds you
that the land is yours.
And the people who at some pointwent, no.
I've decided I own land and havemade up the laws and have the
bully boys and the swords andthe horses to force my opinion
that this is now my land.
That they created this wholestructure called reality to.

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Impress that upon you.
And I dunno if you've, I might,I think I've talked about this
in another podcast, but theLevelers who were my favorite
band when I was younger werenamed after a group of working
class people who, laborers who,when the Enclosure act happened,
which when I was at school, thehistory that I just la, la

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didn't, I just wasn't interestedat all in it.
At all.
It was so boring.
'cause it was taught boringly.
If they taught me that this waswhat.
Your favorite band?
'cause my favorite band was whenI was 13, I was at school.
And if they told me that thismusic that you're listening to,
this brilliant working classfolk music that you love is
named after these people who.

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A load of rich people justsuddenly decided that this
common land was theirs and putfences up around it.
And the common people went, no,we are not gonna let you do
that.
And stood up to them.
And there were men, women andchildren who just continued to
till the land and refused tostop doing it.
And whoever it was, he'd saidthat land now belonged to them.

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Got a bunch of bully boystogether and paid them a load of
money to.
Take down these people and theydidn't want to,'cause they could
see they were women andchildren, they're just ordinary
people.
They didn't want to do it.
They probably knew them.
It was probably, theirneighboring village or town or
whatever and they didn't wannado it.
So they ran through them, firstof all with horses and

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threatened them.
I.
And the people carried on andrefused to stop.
And so they ran through andkilled them all and they killed
all of them.
And they chopped up their bodiesand they tarred their body ends
so that they'd stay fresh forlonger and they paraded them
around on sticks and showed allthe local people like, this is
what will happen to you if youstand up against us.

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And so that's how our landedgentry became, landed gentry.
That's how we lost our land.
We were the first people to becolonized, and here we have real
indigenous people who arecontinuous, continuously
fighting off colonization fromtax dodging millionaires who
are.

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Have made their money throughnefarious means and are here
just to take just the benefit.
They don't spend their moneyhere.
They don't do their shoppinghere.
They don't come and hang out inthe pub.
Some of them do, but on thewhole, they're doing their own
thing and they having theirprivate yachts brought in and we
are not benefiting from thembeing here.
I saw a really good memeyesterday that was like, we

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should bring in tax.
It was a, it was like threetiered thing that said we should
bring in taxes or increasetaxes, and then the next one
went, but then all themillionaires will leave, and
then the next one went, I'malready sold on the idea, you
don't have to encourage me.
I was just like, and that's howI feel about it here.
Like Everyone's like, well, ifyou do that well the
millionaires will leave.
And I'm like well, a great b,no, they won't because they'll

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still be paying less tax herethan they will anywhere else.
So yeah, we need to look at whatwould be a competitive rate for
us to charge, but we need tochange our tax system so that we
are tax'cause basically, if youare here as a an under 20 grand
a year earner, which a hugenumber of us are, and most of
people who are under 20 grand ayear in locals.

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Working in the service industry,working as builders and as
Carters and things like that, weare not in any way benefiting
from any kind of low taxjurisdiction because in the UK
I'd be paying like 275 or 295,whatever it is now a year for
national insurance, and I'd getfree healthcare.

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Here I pay 500 a year insuranceand that doesn't come with
healthcare.
So I'd have to pay healthcare ontop of that.
So as someone who earns under 20grand a year, I'm paying more
here and getting less for it.
Whereas someone who has 170million a year as some guy that
I know boasted about to merecently, he's paying 500 a

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year.
It's insanity.
Yeah.
I think it's very interestingwhat's been going on over here
at the moment because we'recoming up to Beam, we're coming
up to this festival and yeah, mycommunity connection has
completely shifted since I didthese rooms and since I created
the spirit line There's loads ofthings happening that are

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affecting class war that'shappening in the astrology at
the moment.
So we're experiencing astrologythat hasn't happened in our
lifetimes and won't be happeningagain in our lifetimes.
And it was all concentrated atthe beginning of this year.
So it feels like belt pain'sgonna be a wow, like a breath of
fresh air, like so much.
It's gonna be a lot easier.
It's not that it's gonna beeasier'cause that's not true.

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I'd say we've gone through apainful page turn like a
butterfly coming out of achrysalis moment.
It's been a gooey mess.
That's then had to form and thendrag itself out this chrysalis,
and we're now like shaking onthe leaf.
But now it's a new epoch.
It's a new era we are in.
We're in a new.

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So Pluto in Aquarius, Plutomoves into Aquarius at the start
of this year, and that's thefirst time that it's been here
for it was the 1770s and thelast time that happened was huge
upheaval.
So we had the AmericanRevolution, the French
Revolution, and the beginning,first, like strong abolitionist

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movements began.
And then.
Just what's just happened, andthis has happened in Aries, is
Neptune is moving from PIs intoAries.
And Neptune is the planet ofcollective dreams and illusions
and spirituality.
The last time Neptune moved fromPIs into Aries was the mid 18
hundreds and we saw waves ofrevolution in Europe and just

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the abolitionist movement becamelike intensified and we had the
US Civil War and then loads ofnew political ideologies emerged
like communism, anarchism, andfeminism.
It's interesting'cause Neptune'scollective dreams and illusions
and spirituality.
And so when that mixes withAries, it's about political

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ideologies.
That's what we create.
And Pluto and Aquarius.
Pluto is deep transformation,destruction, and rebirth.
So Revolution in Aquarius, whichis a very entrepreneurial, like
literally anything's possible.
And I think that's the thing isthat this energy is anything's
possible with so much Ariesgoing on, that it's, it is that

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reality defining where you'relike, actually, even though it
feels like it's insurmountablefor us to free ourselves from
slavery or insurmountable for usto free ourselves from the
monarchy and these rulingleaders that are just so good at
grooming us with their storiesto make us believe that's the
way things are and that this iswhat reality is.
that this is what reality is allabout and we have to buy into it

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and we have to believe in it.
And it's so easy for us to dothat.
'cause you're born, you dunnowhat's going on and you don't
realize that it's all being madeup and you just go along with
everything.
And it takes a long time forpeople to wake.
Up to the fact that it's madeup.
And that's what I see being wokeas is someone who's going,
alright, this is all nonsense.

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And that is so important.
Being woke is not a bad thing.
Oh, sorry.
You're still in the matrix.
Okay.
You're in the dream.
All right.
I am awake.
Yeah.
No, and I'm not putting up withthis shit any longer.
Yeah, we also have yeah.
So basically we've got so muchairy stuff going on.
So Pluto and Aquarius demandsthe breakdown of corrupt power
structures and theredistribution of collective

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power, which is like about tohappen.
You can feel it becauseeveryone's disgruntled,
everyone's had enough.
Neptune in late Pisces dissolvesthe illusions of capitalism and
a hierarchical dreams exposingthe deep injustices of.
Of it all.
And then there's so much Ariesenergy, like so many things are
in Aries at the moment that thisfuels the courage and uprising

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needed to confront these oldsystems head on.
And then Jupiter and Uranus,conjunct in Taurus will push
sudden expansion of movementsaround land ownership, food
labor, and now it's Beltane andthat's.
International Workers' Day andis all about the labor movement
yeah, it's just interestingbecause all of these things, it

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does I always say in my moonceremonies that it's not that I
believe in the.
Astrology of things, and it'snot necessarily that I believe
in these planetary energies.
I just think that it'sinteresting to follow them
because when you do, you learnso much about your own
personality and humanity, and itmakes you reflect on all the
different aspects of life.

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That's my non Wawa explanationor like excuse for what I do and
what I get out of it.
But the truth is the more Ifollow.
The energies of the movingplanets and the symphony of this
dance that we are in.

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The more I'm like, yeah, butthis is mad.
So all of these things, and it'sthe fractal thing again, already
done a podcast on fractal, butthe fractal realities the.
In a few days time, I'm puttingon Beltane and it's this
community festival that I, whenI created those rooms, I felt
very unsupported and unconnectedwith the community about it.

(24:22):
And I felt okay, I'm just havingto do it for Guernsey now'cause
they're not helping me.
And it just.
I felt really frustrated and sadand like the school kids went up
for being in the Mama's playthis year, and so I had to
scrabble around to find peopleto do the mama's play, getting
kids from Guernsey to come anddo it, and it's just been a bit
of a slog getting it going and.
I haven't felt very connected tothe, like majority of people on

(24:44):
the island.
Like I have a really lovelypeppered selection, like a
peppering across the communityof people that I really connect
with and get me.
But I think on the whole, peoplehave been a bit like she's a bit
of a weirdo and haven't reallygot me and understood me, and
then created these rings andthen wrote an article about.

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Community and Beltane and itbeing a working class folk
tradition and this connection toInternational Workers' Day, that
this is our art.
It's grassroots art, it'sconnection to the land art, it's
real people art.
I was at my wedding last year.
We did a mum's play on the stageon the Sunday, which was like
our meal, bit of the wedding.
And it wasn't with puntersthere, it was just the.

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Wedding guests, and we did anopen mic because all of us were
artists and creatives.
The people that put on thefestival and.
There were friends there fromsarc and one of them was the guy
who did the cooking for themeal, and he's a proper Carling
drinking, Mancunian and hewatched the plane.
He was just like, I got off thestage and he said, that was so
out of my comfort zone, and Idon't understand what was just

(25:53):
happening then.
But talk to me about it becauseI was.
I was transfixed and I went yourarchetype is the every man, like
you are a real working classhero.
And what we were just doing wasworking class theater.
And so it spoke to you.
It spoke to you because this isyour roots.
Your ancestors were watchingthis, and it's meant for you.

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And he really got it and hereally liked it.
And yeah, it just was one ofthose moments where it's yeah,
this is an archetypal connectionthat you are.
Sensing here and it was reallynice.
And yeah, it's been quite strongbonds between us and all of
this, happened and then suddenlyeverything just went click into
this new reality place where Iput my neck out.

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Which is also part of what'shappening in the astrology at
the moment as this sort ofsticky moment of revelation or I
dunno.
Yeah, having to have a stickyconversation and.
I did a personal statementbecause like publicly about the
fact that some oligarch richpeople who are here, who've been

(27:02):
in the government with me forthe last two years, and actually
I'd been pleasantly surprised athow normal they were.
And we'd got on and I've drunkwith them and I've been in
committees with them and I'vegotten really well with them.
And then suddenly.
It was dripping through over thelast two years that it was clear
that one of them had a realissue with the guy who runs our

(27:22):
government who's a local blokeand.
I'd noticed that they weretrying to get me on side, and I
had been aware of that, but itreally came to a head pretty
much this year, since January,to the point where we are
getting absolutely swamped withconstant emails, like a barrage
of emails, asking questionsabout every single thing and

(27:42):
trying to literally just tryingto catch us out.
The whole time, and we spend somuch time and energy trying to
answer them so that we don't getcaught out so that we can show
what our reasoning is or whatour research has been and what
conversations have been had andtransparency and good governance
and all of this stuff.
But it takes up so much time andit's like, why when we are all

(28:03):
on the same team, we don't haveparty politics here, so we
should be working together.
And it's been exhausting andfrustrating and they've caught
other people up in theirwhirlwind and they caught a
motion of no confidence.
Against us that we are gonnahave to fight over on Wednesday.
So I'm putting this out onMonday and on Wednesday.
I've gotta go to the quarterlyassembly and government assembly

(28:27):
and fight for my right to carryon being in the kind of con like
main controlling committee, thepolicy and finance committee,
and.
It's really frustrating andhurtful and for a while I just
sat with it and I didn't knowwhat to do, but then I felt like
it was wrong.
I was waiting to just speak onWednesday and I'd written a

(28:47):
statement to share on Wednesday,but I then, and there's another
woman on the committee with me,and we just came to the
conclusion that we did need tosay something beforehand, like
we needed to fight our cornerbeforehand.
And I just felt like it was timeto call out what was really
going on.
Because what they're doing isit's all smoke and mirrors.
They're going on about details,but the details are constantly

(29:08):
changing.
It's a kaleidoscope of noise andthey're jumping on everything
left, right and center.
Today.
It's this, but tomorrow it couldbe that, and it doesn't matter.
The one constant is that they'reafter our head guy.
That's been the consistent thingover two years, is that it's all
been about this guy.
I have an email from the onewho's got the real obsession.

(29:29):
Trying to get me to turnagainsts him.
He had four or fiveconversations with me in the
last two years trying to get meto turn againsts him.
So I knew that's what it wasabout.
yeah, I just called it out.
I actually said, that's what'sgoing on.
And I put it on Facebook andthen went to the news and also
then wrote to all the otherpoliticians and said it.
So I was like trying transparentwith everybody.
It's this is what I think'sgoing on and this is what I've
been seeing.

(29:50):
And it's just shifted everythingbecause I think it.
I said it from a really clearplace, like it was like clarity.
This is what I'm seeing and I'mjust saying it, and people are
like, oh, that's notprofessional.
We shouldn't put it on Facebook.
But they've been going to thepress, they've been printing
lies, they've been using theirown newsletters to print things

(30:11):
when they were meant to becommunity newsletters.
And they have literally beenpublishing lies absolute
outright lies and went behindour backs to do things with EE
politicians.
And they're all the things thatthey've been accusing our head
guy of doing.
And that's what's.
Mad about it is it's like youare literally doing the things
that you are accusing us of,like lack of transparency, being

(30:31):
renegade yeah.
Going off on our own and doingstuff, and they're literally
doing that.
And they weren't voted inbecause they had non contended
elections there.
There was a contended electionthe last election we had.
So all of the new concierge arewith mandates, like they're
mandated politicians, but thislot that are pushing this.

(30:52):
They're like me.
We are not mandated.
We didn't get voted in.
We put our name on a form and noone else was up for it.
So we got in.
And so I think it's also quiterude of them to be creating such
a storm when they don't evenhave the support of the people.
They don't have the support ofthe house.
They're doing stuff behind ourbacks and they don't have the
support of the people'cause theyweren't voted in.

(31:13):
So it is just these.
Rich people who I guess are justused to always getting their own
way, like pushing us around andjust deciding what they think's
right and what they want.
And it's not even that I thinkthey've got that much of an
agenda.
I actually think on the whole,it's one person's obsession with
this other guy and it's mainlythat.
And he's then stirred everybodyelse up into a frenzy.

(31:36):
But I'd prefer it in a way ifthere was a more sinister
agenda, because it would beless.
Absolutely freaking outrageouslychildish.
I don't think there is.
So wrote this personal statementthat's out now.
And then on Wednesday we'll be.
Standing up and having to defendourselves and debate whether we

(31:57):
should be got rid of or not,which is intense.
And then on Saturday, two dayslater, I've got porn, a
festival.
But what has shifted is I.
The public response to mystatement has been incredible
and loads of people that havenever really connected with me
or clicked with me and have beena bit shirty or a bit dismissive
of me have suddenly come outtathe woodwork and just been like,

(32:19):
that's amazing.
Thank you for being honest.
you said it, we all beenthinking this thank you for
sharing.
And then I've had other peoplebeing we literally didn't have a
clue that this was going on.
So thanks for saying something.
Because we had no idea and it'sjust changed everything.
Suddenly everyone's being reallyhelpful with the festival and so
it's so interesting'cause that'sliterally Theros.
I pulled, I pulled Thero ofcommunity and then the RO of

(32:41):
just throwing a spear in likeclear direction and clarity and
I was clear and direct aboutwhat was happening and was
honest and open and just went,this is what's going on.
And suddenly the community'sopened up and it's just fully
embraced me and I sat, I.
My in-laws family roast onSunday and just felt like they

(33:02):
were my family.
Like I felt I've always feltvery welcome there, but there
was something about the mealthis Sunday that I was like, I
fully feel part of this familynow, like they're my family.
And that was really lovely.
And yeah, it's just shiftedeverything I feel.
I feel like a local, I'll neverbe a local.
Even people who've been here 400years and not 500 years are not

(33:22):
locals.
But yeah, I feel like I'm partof the local gang now and that
feels amazing.
So whatever happens onWednesday, it's almost like I've
got nothing to lose.
'cause if I.
If we win, then that feels greatbecause in terms of the fractal
aspect, I've beaten the tendrilsof Trump that are, in my

(33:44):
reality, the oligarchs, it feelslike a real victory over evil.
And.
That feels wonderful.
That would be great.
And then if I don't get in, thenI've been more warmly welcomed
into the community and I willcontinue to fight for we will
hold these people to account andwe will just make sure they

(34:06):
don't undo the good work and wehold Yeah.
To hold them to accountbasically.
But I feel so.
Like I've been, yeah.
Rewarded by.
The shift that's happened in myplace within the community, and
I'm really grateful for it.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
That was a horrible experienceto go through, and it's been
grueling.
And being in the government ingeneral was just madness.

(34:27):
I didn't choose to do this.
It came upon me and I follow theuniverse of, the universe, sends
me in a direction I'll go withit.
And I had two people ask me tobe in the government.
And I feel like if they'regonna.
Keep requesting.
One of them thought I'd said yesalready, and then when I said
no, I'd said no.
They were like, oh, please, no,go on.
Please do it.

(34:47):
And yeah, it's just been such arollercoaster ride, but I have
grown so much and I've learnedso much.
About myself.
Like I've learned inwardly, I'velearned intellectually, I've
learned emotionally.
It's been a massive journey.
I was talking to some people theother day who are a bit younger
than me and they've lived herefor a long time and they were
talking about wanting to go outand have adventure and talking

(35:08):
about how, it's quite a limitedexperience here if this is where
you are from in terms ofadventure and they wanna go
traveling and they wanna go offand do all these things.
And I was like, yeah.
But this is my adventure.
Like I'm not from here.
I've come here as an outsider.
This is foreign to me.
And I've fallen in love andthat's an adventure and I'm
having a whole wonderful romanceand just delicious.

(35:31):
I.
Love with the most beautifulhuman being, and it just keeps
getting better and better.
It's our year anniversary thisSaturday, and yeah, we've got
each other in our lives.
The blue bells are blossomingand that's our time of year.
The lambs are out and just thebutterflies.
The prim roses and all of thesethings are an indication of our

(35:54):
love.
They're all blossoming around usand we get to celebrate our love
in a great big party festival.
And I'm gonna party hard thisweekend.
That's a facts.
'cause I'm I bloom in deserveit.
That's what I think.
So yeah, it's just veryinteresting how it's all clicked
into place and the rooms andthe.
Planets, and it's just the way Isee it with all these sort of

(36:16):
things like synchronicities,like this is the universe saying
that you're doing the rightthing and that you're in the
right place and this is what'smeant to be happening.
And yeah it's mad and it isfractal and juicy.
It's so juicy.
It's been exhausting andgrueling.
I feel like I've been in a warand it's not over yet.
But I'm energized again.

(36:37):
Now.
I'm over a very.
Big hump and yeah.
I feel like I've benefited from,I'm already reaping the, in
fact, I pulled Harvest as one ofthe ruins last night for the
Taurus Dark Moon, and yeah, I'mfeeling abundant.
That's how I'm feeling, and Iwas definitely in a scarcity
place.

(36:57):
A week ago, and now I feelabsolutely abundant.
The amount of people that aretelling me they love me on a
day-to-day basis.
Just saying it love you it'sjust I'm surrounded by love and
it's really wonderful.
So that's nice.

(37:25):
If you enjoy this podcast, thenplease consider supporting me on
Patreon, which ispatreon.com/jolie Rose.
So this is a way of being ableto support the work that I do,
which means that I can be acreative artist and create work
on a tiny little island in themiddle of nowhere, and share the

(37:47):
amazing people that I know andthe life experiences that I have
and the ideas and things thatcome to me via the universe.
I feel like.
I try to be a channel or aconduit for what's happening in
the universe as much aspossible, and I never really
know what I'm gonna talk aboutor what's gonna happen.
And that's the reason why it'sthe nonsense in the chaos is
trusting the unknown.

(38:07):
And every time I do that, suchamazing things happen.
And so being here is just beingthrough a series of events.
I have been writing my.
Book about the pilgrimages thatI walked that led me to moving
here and some of the places thatI walked through.
I remember thinking, God, how dopeople end up living here?
What's the journey that ledpeople to living in this amazing

(38:30):
place?
Really strange littlecommunities in the middle of
nowhere, but absolutelybeautiful.
Or yeah, special little placesand.
You can be like, oh, how onearth does that happen?
How would you get there?
And now I'm in one of thoseplaces, people come here on
holiday and they'd be goingaround on their bikes going, how
do you end up living in a placelike this?
I live in one of those placesand it's such a privilege to be

(38:54):
part of this paradise'cause itis just such a heavenly place
and also complex and nuancedand.
Diverse and yeah, it's so apetri dish of the bigger
picture.
It is so fractal living here,it's quite crazy.
And so sharing what I learnedfrom this and my insights and

(39:18):
what is coming through fromletting the universe lead is the
whole point of this podcast,letting the universe lead and
seeing where you end up.
And this is me sharing myadventure with you, following
that process and to keep givingyou nudges and, exercises and
food for thought that will helpnudge you in the direction of
stepping off that cliff into theunknown.

(39:41):
So if that nourishes you orexcites you or entertains you,
then if you would be up forsupporting me to carry on doing
this work, then I'd be ever sograteful.
I'd love this to become myfull-time job.
It does take up time and itwould be great if that was able
to be.
Financially rewarding enough forme to be able to do all the
things like buy my food and payfor my bills and get equipment

(40:04):
and, maybe go on a holiday oncein a while.
That would be great.
That's not where I'm at themoment.
I'm far away from that.
But that's the dream.
So anything you can do to helpwould be greatly appreciated.
So if you are able to support mewith a monthly subscription,
three pounds a month is yousaying thank you and you get.
The free content that I create,but all in one place because I

(40:25):
do videos over here and I doceremonies over there.
I write articles over here and Iput them all in one place so
they're easy for you to access.
And then if you pay nine pound amonth, you get the videos for
these podcasts, which just a bitof extra content for you to say
thank you.
And you also get discounts forthings that I do.
Offerings that I do, forexample, the Witch Faller You

(40:46):
course, which is starting at theend of May.
So once I get over the hump ofthe next week and I'm over the
Beltane.
Party, I will then beconcentrating on getting the
witch full of you course up andrunning, and we will launch with
the dark Moon at the end of themonth.

(41:07):
So if you'd like to join this,it's the deepest work I do and
it's going on a full deepimmersion into the inner world
and we will work out and letpercolate what our archetypes
are and how we can work withthem.
And yeah, connecting in with therole that we are here to play in

(41:28):
this game of life.
And it's juicy and it'stransformative and it's a never
ending journey.
So I do it as well each time andI learn something new every time
and it just keeps getting deeperand deeper.
And I love it, so I can'trecommend it enough.
'cause I do it and I reallyenjoy it.
Yeah, hopefully you will too.

(41:48):
So do get in touch If you'd likeany more information on this,
email me or message me on socialmedia.
And if you wanna email me, it'snonsense In the chaos@gmail.com.
And yeah, there's other thingsthat are gonna be happening, but
that's it for now.
The Kooky Club is finished forthe summer and we have.
Beltane, but that's sold out.

(42:09):
And also it's a bit late for youto be able to get over there
unless you're from guarantee, inwhich case get your tickets.
'cause it is literally about tosell out.
I think we've got like 20tickets left at the most.
They might be less than 20already.
So we are basically sold out.
So yeah by the time this comesout, we probably will be very
exciting.
Can't wait to celebrate, can'twait to party and enjoy myself

(42:30):
and let my hair down and then.
Then it's the start of thesummer and the real proper bit
of the year.
So we'll see how that allunfolds.
But yeah, thank you.
Now on with the show.

(42:52):
Okay, so I'm gonna pull aro, seewhat the universe wants me to
talk about today.
We're still in the energy of thetourist Dark Moon, Maine.
Venus led, Venus ruled, which ismy archetype.
She rules me.
And yeah like I say, much ishappening astrologically and in
the world in general.
God.
So I've pulled the same room asI pulled last night in our

(43:14):
reading, which is necessity.
And this keeps coming up.
And I talked about it last nightin my video.
So have you seen the videoalready?
What I was saying that thismeans is this is all necessary.
So even the difficult times werenecessary.
That's what this keeps meaningto me.
So when I'm overwhelmed and it'sall got too much, then I pull

(43:36):
this room.
It's telling me to just dowhat's necessary.
Don't try and do everything pickwhich plates need spinning and
which ones can be left for now,and let them drop and just focus
on the ones that have to bespanned right this second.
And that's quite a good like wayof setting boundaries and just
getting a bit of clarity or aline to follow when you just

(43:59):
feel completely overwhelmed.
So that's what that means.
When I'm in that state, but I'mnow in a, my, my nervous system
feels relaxed now.
I feel open, I feel inspired andin a abundant place again.
And what this means to me now isthat storm that I've just been

(44:19):
through.
That shit show that I've justgone through, that I am still in
the process of, is all necessaryfor my spiritual development,
for my journey.
Towards my highest self, myarchetype, my higher purpose,
the next level in the game.
Like whatever this thing is, thenext chapter in the plot, in the

(44:41):
book, in the, movie of whateverthis thing is.
And yeah, it's all necessary.
It's a necessary plot twist,it's a necessary conflict for.
My character to overcome andnegotiate, and then it just, it
just lifts it all a bit into amore of a drama.
Like it's drama, but the dramaof it puts it into a more

(45:07):
playful place, a curious place.
Okay, so how have I ended up inthe government?
A how am I going to.
Have the nerves to stand up andsay what I want to say.
When there are people there thatwent to debating societies and
have had that entitlement theirwhole lives that feel like they

(45:27):
can take up space and they'lltalk really slowly and oh my
God, it's just so noticeable howmuch, like I'll get up and speak
really fast and almostapologetically and you can tell
they already think that I speaktoo much, even though I'm hardly
speaking at all compared tothem.
And then they'll just talk forfricking hours and really slow

(45:48):
and it's just oh God, you sothink that you deserve this.
Our time is not as important asyours.
And it's, yeah, it's just reallynoticeable.
But it's necessary for me tostand up against this because it
is the fractal and I am facingthe tendrils of whatever it is

(46:08):
that's the bigger picture in myreality, in my pixel.
And if I can tackle this, if Ican.
Put medicine into the poison, ifI can, what's the word?
Anate, the poison.
If I can heal the rifts and thenastiness, then.
I've transformed my pixel intosomething more beautiful and

(46:31):
that's what feels like hashappened already.
It's already hap happening andnow I have to step into that and
believe in it and trust it.
There are people who've beenpart of the opposition that are
very much part of theopposition, who I already feel
are opening up and are becomingless opposed.
And I'm connecting with them andgoing.
All is forgiven, all is notlost.

(46:52):
Be the prodigal son.
Come home, come back to us.
You can be part of thiscommunity still.
You can still be one of us andbe appreciated and loved and
celebrated and just come home.
And then there are those thatare maybe too Gollum ish that
are, too far gone and they needto be fucking put in their place
and told no, like boundariesneed to be put in place.
So that they don't just, theirego doesn't get to smash

(47:16):
everything up and rule theroost, and we might not achieve
it.
I might get voted out, likethere is no given.
It's a very close call as towhich way it's gonna go.
It's gonna depend on who managesto trigger who, who loses their
temper, how it all comes out onthe day.
Really, it's all to play for.
I've got no idea which way it'sgonna go, and then I've just
gotta trust that after all ofthat, I'm able to put a festival

(47:40):
on.
And that I've thought of all thedetails and I've covered
everything because I definitelydon't feel like I have at the
moment.
But I also feel like, we've gota lot of it already sorted.
Like it feels like a lot.
It's the paperwork, it's theadmin that I still need to get
done and that's the bit where Ineed to sit and do it.
But every time I do it, it'slike I'll do it for, however
many hours I sit there and doit.
And I haven't done it all.
Still feels very never ending,but we'll get there.

(48:04):
We are getting there.
So yeah, just have to trust theprocess and trust that it's, and
again, I suppose this is thenecessity thing.
'cause am I doing anythingunnecessary that I can just let.
Drop for the moment.
Doing this podcast could beargued as one of them.
Do I need to be doing a podcastthe week before I put on a
festival?
I don't want to not do them whenI've said that this is a period
of time I am doing them.

(48:24):
I didn't do them for creationhibernation, but I don't want to
not do a podcast when I'm up andrunning.
So I feel like it is necessary,and actually part of the issue
I've had is that my work, mycreative work, like it was
necessary for me to edit my bookand get my book ready for
publishing.
'cause a publisher has said theywanna publish it and then I've
been absolutely unable to lookat it since because I've had the

(48:47):
festival coming up.
I've got my government stuffhappening, but really what's
necessary is the stuff that ownsme.
Money, which is the podcast, andgetting books published and
doing the festivals and, Ihaven't been able to open those
emails or look at any of thatstuff because I've been too
overwhelmed with everythingthat's going on.
So there's a prioritizing thingthat needs to happen there.

(49:07):
So that's what all of thatmeans.
This room of necessities like.
Reassess and reevaluate what isnecessary and and make some
important judgment calls on itbecause all of that stuff is
necessary.
But that's like career money isalso my creativity.
It's my inner world.
It's my creative development asan artist and it's my talents,

(49:30):
but also the world is at war andfascism's on the rise.
And what's more important?
Fighting it, even if it's justthe little tendrils in my pixel
that is important, like that isnecessary as well, because I
don't get to be an artist in afascist world, so I have to also

(49:50):
fight that.
I'm not saying these people arefascists, but it does definitely
feel like it's all part of asimilar vibe.
That also is necessary.
So yeah, it's trusting yourinstincts, following your nose,
trusting the universe,continually assessing and
evaluating and checking in.
But yeah I do feel like.
The universe has given me enoughsymbols with everything that's

(50:11):
clicked together recently tosay, this is what you're gonna
be doing.
This, you are in the rightplace.
And that's what I mean when Isay the outer world is a sign
language for the inner world.
This is where I'm meant to be.
I am doing what I'm meant to bedoing because so many things are
clicking and synchronicities isso regular that this is right.

(50:32):
So I'm going with that.
I'm trusting that.
And my last thing is a chaoscrusade so, To go and spend some
time sat in nature observing.
So just go and sit and observe.

(50:55):
And the reason why I'm saying todo this is because when our
nervous systems are fracturedand reality is overwhelming us
and this thing of necessity isthat.
It's almost like we need to do areality check of what's actually
real and what's actuallyimportant, and that is to step
away from the great distractor,which is this being that's

(51:15):
forever trying to take ourattention and to go and do it as
a training.
It's a bit like doing meditationis a training.
You have to keep doing it, andit's a training to train your
brain to just stop and be quiet.
Can you just sit and observe?
And it will be really hard.
The teacher that taught me to dothis was my mentor, and when she
first started doing this 20 oddyears ago teaching ma acting at

(51:39):
drama school she used to get theyoung people to sit and observe
something for 15 minutes.
And then over the years, becausewe've become so.
Short attention span and sodistracted.
People started having panicattacks and anxiety attacks from
sitting for that long.
So she reduced it to sevenminutes.

(51:59):
And I think even that peoplewould find uncomfortable.
So try five minutes, set a timerand just sit and observe.
That's all you've gotta do.
And it doesn't matter what it's,sit in nature and observe
something in nature and times.
Give yourself five minutes to doit and time yourself and just
observe.
That's all I'm saying to do.

(52:21):
And yeah, see what thatexperience is like.
So that's everything from me forthis week.

(52:41):
Hope you have a gloriousbeltane.
Enjoy and just, yeah, take amoment to really relish this
time of year because it's abeautiful.
Magical moment, and it's so easyfor it to pass us by on us, not
stop, and really appreciate it.
So stop, observe, enjoy,immerse, connect to the fires of

(53:07):
Beltane, the burning of thewickerman, the burning of the
old, and the refreshing, and thestarting of the new, and us
stepping out into this newsummer that we're going to go
out and do all these things, allthe intentions you've set over
the winter and the mulching andthe hibernation and the
developing and.
Chrysalis thing that you'vedone, we are gonna come out now
and be the butterflies that weare.

(53:28):
So celebrating that and thenthat mirrored with the
International Workers Day andthe fire of our.
The work that we do in our driveand desire to make the world a
better place and to tear downsystems that don't support us.
All of that, it's all there toplay for.
That's just how I feel abouteverything at the moment is all
to play for and we are at apivotal moment in our reality.

(53:53):
So what we gonna create, it'sabsolutely necessary for us to
get into action, to get driven,to get.
Focused and to create somethingmagnificent.
So with that, I shall see theanon.
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