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Welcome to The Nonsense in theChaos.
I'm your host Jaylee Rose.
It's the Gemini Dark Moontonight, and I'll be holding a
ceremony this evening, and weare also in the Witch for You
season.
So the reason why I run TheWitch Fool You course during
this time is because it beginswith this Gemini Dark Moon, and
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the Gemini sign is all about thetwins and twin energy.
So within fooling we are workingwith our twisted twin.
So the twisted twin is our innerversion of ourselves.
It's the part of you that whenthe doors are shut and no one's
there, it's the bit that burpsand farts and listens to
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whatever music it listens to andenjoys whatever the things is
that it enjoys.
And it's the you that even yourpartner doesn't completely know.
You don't completely know it.
And part of the adventure I findin life is getting to know this
part of yourself better.
And I think that, you have avery short time on this life for
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exploring the outer world, whichis great.
You get to travel and all thosekind of things.
And the inner world.
And the inner world alsoincludes all the people and
beings that are in the outerworld.
They are part of your innerworld.
At some point, it's therealization that they're both
one, you know, so you can getlost in too much navel gazing,
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doing inner world work if youdon't include the outer world in
it, or hold any kind ofreverence for the outer world.
The reverence shouldn't all befor the inner world.
The reverence should be equalfor both.
But the outer world does holdour attention.
It's very noisy and actually theworld that we're in at the
moment is almost like a war.
I mean, there is, a lot of wargoing on, but probably the key
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war that is going on is for ourattention.
Because the more that they cankeep our attention outward, the
less we'll look inward.
And the more you look inward,the more you realize we're all
one.
Because every, because your twinis infinite and all twins are
infinite.
And so we are all one twin.
It's just that, I keep talkingabout this sphincter, but it's
actually called a Taurus.
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If you look up, I think it'sT-O-R-U-S, I might have spelled
that wrong, but if you look upthe Shape Taurus, it's not spelt
like the star sign.
they are kind of like a donut.
But the image that I think'smost relevant for us is one
where it's less of a wide holein the middle.
It's a very tight hole.
And then it, donuts round intothis circular motion and.
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Sphincter is our ego.
So yeah, the closer into themiddle of that, column in the
middle, you get into thatsphincter.
The more it's like you, and thisis what I've talked about
before, you know, you have theuniverse and the solar system
and the world, the country, thetown, the house, the bedroom,
your body, and then inside it'show you are roughly feeling
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what's going on more in thebigger picture, your kind of
family and inherited baggage,your cultural baggage, and then
your imagination and thedreaming and ancestors and
archetypes.
And then at some point it allbecomes collective consciousness
at the back.
And we will join up and thencollective consciousness and the
outer world have a relationship.
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Because, all of this I've talkedabout before is, does the idea
of a supermarket put itself.
Into the head of the person whothen designs it or does the
person designing it create thearchetype of a supermarket, you
know?
So like the first time someonesays, let's make a hege, a
Stonehenge, did the idea forthat come from the inner world
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that then got manifested in theouter world?
Or was the out worldmanifestation what them put it
into the inner world so that weall know what that thing looks
like?
We all know what Stone Hengelooks like.
there are a million differenttypes of cars that you could be
talking about when you say, Igot out of my car.
But I can say, here I am gettingout of my car and you can all
imagine a car.
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If I stopped you all and askedyou all to draw what car you are
imagining, it would bedifferent.
You'd all have different colors,you'd have different makes.
But overall there's thearchetype of car.
And that's what we're workingwith when we perform in fooling,
is we're working with thisshared archetype that's I know
what a car looks like.
I know if I slam this, it lookslike I'm slamming a door.
If I pressure my hand in frontof me, it looks like I'm beeping
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a horn.
I can like wiggle my arms andhands around and it looks like
I'm driving a steering wheel.
you'll know what I'm doingbecause I'm using the archetype
of a car.
The twin connects us all.
And the more you connect withthat and the more you open
yourself up to that, the lessyou can other people.
So, immigrants, enemies are allone.
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And this has been playing on mymind a lot.
It's funny'cause there arecertain signs that really affect
me, which is interesting'cause Ioften say I don't really believe
in astrology.
I just think it's a useful tool.
But actually there are certain,I mean, I do, I, I, I do believe
in that.
but'cause of what I experience,I'm always open to the idea
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that.
it's placebo that I'm, I'mlooking for the feelings and
therefore they arrive.
But some of the stuff that,yeah, some of it's so crazy, but
obviously there's always gonnabe coincidences and
synchronicities in the worldbecause there's a million things
happening all the time.
And sometimes they'll, marry up.
But I've been considering this alot lately with everything
that's been going on.
'cause I've been not in a greatplace I'm okay.
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I'm coasting and I am okay, butI, I'm keeping my head above
water just about.
And one of the things that'sbeen playing on my mind was
actually the last, not the lastpodcast, but the last solo
podcast, me chatting where Italked about what had happened
to Sophia.
And I've been thinking a lotabout the person that she was
with and how I felt bad about.
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Some of the things that I'd saidin the podcast.
So I'm actually gonna go backand re-edit it because I don't
wanna be responsible forsomeone, taking their life or,
or feeling, witch hunted oranything like that because I was
in a lot of pain and I'm hearingwhat's happening through people
who loved her and obviously it'seasy to want to blame someone
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and that's, life's normally morecomplicated than that.
And, it might be, a huge factorwithin it, but also it might not
be, and I don't know.
And I don't want to be pointingthe finger at anyone.
So, I'm gonna go back andre-edit that.
And I've also been thinkingabout the,'cause we are all one,
and even your enemies or peoplethat you have a negative feeling
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towards are still part of you.
We are all one.
How to meet people with love andcompassion and kindness I went
back and listened and I waslike, wow.
I was in a lot of pain, but thatwas not kind, it wasn't
compassionate.
So I'm gonna go back and reeditthat I'm really tuning into and
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feeling my grief and, holding mygrief.
I've had some lovelyinteractions with Sophia.
she was always gonna be strongeron the other side.
She's a powerful other worldlybeing.
it's interesting'cause she waspart of my cove and so in a way
we were slightly married andshe's a sister She just feels
very present to me andsupportive and an ally and, a
strong force for supporting me.
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she's been coming out in thereadings that I've been doing a
lot.
she keeps coming up in myreadings and obviously she was
going to be,'cause she's such akind of divine force and yeah,
it's gonna be and is way morepowerful on the spiritual realm
than she was on this one.
This world was not made for herunfortunately.
And that's not right.
And is part of what's driving meforward is that I want a world
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where Faye and tenderness andgentleness and sparkles and
magic and rainbows are supportedand held and embraced.
And we're not just pushing itout all the time.
The all that remains is tarmacand Gregs and feral pigeons.
I just can't, I won't be, Iwon't, I won't be party to this
and I will not tolerate it.
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And yeah, having your attentionstolen by.
Mindless pointless stuff is partof the weaponry that's being
used against us.
So beware and be aware of it.
Go for walks without listeningto anything, especially at the
moment with Gemini seasons.
This is what I mean with itbeing one of the ones that
really affects me.
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So Gemini is thinking and, andquick thoughts.
It's got a lovely lightness toit.
Imagine I always pictureGemini's, two teenage twins
chatting to each other.
it's that.
And the way that teenagers chatis just so excited and
inquisitive and curious.
That's the light side of it.
The dark side is the, the tarotcards that are the negative ones
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attributed to Gemini areinterference, cruelty, and ruin,
and they're all swords.
And swords is the sign of thethinking.
So thinking is, an incredibleadd-on that we've had, the
privilege of being given, butit's something to the world we
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live in, has fully set itself upfor the thinking, which I'll
talk more about in a second.
But, it's even going beyond thatnow.
It was all for the last, I don'tknow, since, I think it was like
medieval times when, well, no,actually, probably more.
It was the renaissance, butsince we started to chop off
like the heads of religiousleaders and go more into the
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enlightenment and, it be aboutthe head, basically it'd be
about thinking and logic andreason and all of those things
are brilliant and we've achievedso much with that.
But we did throw the baby outwith the bath water in that
there was so much that we'vediscredited and thrown away that
needs a re-looking at orre-exploring.
From the place of reason becausethere was a lot of superstition
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and there was a lot of,corruption and misuse and
misrule.
But there was also like thepower of placebo is more
extraordinary than we are evergiving credit for, and I feel
like is a huge area of researchthat needs to be explored
because actually the whole ofour reality is a placebo.
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It's a made up thing that givesus the credibility and
confidence and strength to getthrough what is otherwise this
mad chaos of hurling throughspace on a lump of rock.
Your spiritual stuff might notbe true.
the science is true in thatyour.
At the level you are at in themedium that you're at.
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As in like, I think of it ascoming into focus, like the more
in the present you are, the morein focus things are.
And in that place are laws ofphysics and such like fit and
work.
But the further out focus yougo, they don't work.
and that's why there isn't aunifying law, that, quantum
physics, completely screws,relativity.
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And there is no unifying lawthat that brings these all
together because when you go outof the focus, everything stops
working the way that we have itworking in the middle, in the
focus where the sphincters are,where all the sphincters are.
that to me suggests some kindof, I am someone who believes in
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it being a simulation of somekind, not necessarily a computer
or whatever.
Like I just, who knows?
It could be.
And I do feel like consciousnessis the key thing, but the.
That's the thing.
Consciousness creates this andwe've created many different
realities that have had nobearing on each other.
You know, a hunter gatherer'sreality and a Romans reality and
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Auds reality and a Middle Agesreality and a, and a Arabic
reality, and a immigrant rightnow's reality and someone in the
fucking, trafficked and in beingforced into the sex industry is
reality are all so different.
And yet they are all realities.
And so there's something aboutall of this that's it's a play
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that we are all performing inand we're improvising as we go
along, but we somehow have ascript that, all children are
like, I dunno what's going on.
And we follow what the adultsare doing.
And adolescence is, yes,hormonal, but a big chunk of it
is going.
Oh, right.
This is all bullshit.
Oh, right.
And that's hard.
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It's hard for young people torealize that it's not good
versus evil.
It's not work hard and you'll berich, or all of these things
that we kind of fed asnarratives aren't true.
And the world's fucked andeveryone's making it up and no
one knows what they're doing.
and it's that like, I don'tknow, like crest fallenness of
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going, oh, adults are justtalking bullshit.
It's a hard bit of pill toswallow and all of this is the
sort of stuff that we don't givecredit to in the enlightened
reason, logic world.
'cause this is all emotionalstuff.
It's inner world stuff.
It's, you know, we'll, we'llcredit it to hormones or mental
health and things like that, butit's deeper than that.
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there is some other thing there.
It can be in danger of beinglabeled too much in the
spiritual world, and being tooesoteric and being too
spiritual.
But it's definitely worthy ofinvesting oneself in because
reality without it is killingpeople literally through war,
through pollution, throughfamine, through mental health
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and emotional lack.
we feel like we've got a hole inus.
Capitalism is making us feel,unworthy and not good enough and
lacking, and therefore we keepfilling it with these things
that don't fill the hole.
'cause that hole is our innerworld and we are not filling it
with our inner world.
And so.
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You just get lost in thinking.
And actually what's happeningnow is it's escalated to the
point where there isn't evenroom for thinking anymore,
because they're making us soshort in our attention span and
frenetic and crazy that we, wehaven't even got a second to
breathe or, or even think.
But I wanna tell you a story,first of all, just to, bed you
in a little bit deeper with whatthe twin is.
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And it's a story that you willknow.
And I have talked about thisalready.
I think it was in the thirdpodcast where I talk about the
inner and out world.
And I might have touched on someof this, but I'm talking about
it now from the perspective ofthe twin.
It's kind of the same thing.
and we're working with GeminiEnergy.
So I'm gonna tell you the storyof Cain and Abel.
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Now, you know this story.
You know the story of Kane andAbel.
You see, there was these twinsand they were some of the
earliest people on the planet.
They were the children of Adamand Eve, and they were brothers,
and they were very differentcharacters.
And Kane was this incrediblybusy and passionate and logical
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and clear creature that wouldmake things all day long.
And he was desperate for Gods toacknowledge him.
And, You know, be in awe of hisintelligence and his greatness.
So every time God came round tosee them, because God walked the
earth more, in those days, hewould come and see Kane and Kane
and be like, look at all theamazing things I've done.
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I just created tarmac and I madea whole M 25 and, and I've just
like learned how to do heartsurgery.
Look, I've, I've, I've dissectedheart.
I understand how a human heartworks now.
So clever.
I love your work, God.
And, and yeah, I've split theatom.
I split an atom.
I, I, I worked out what an atomis and it's the building box of
everything.
And, and then I halved it andGod's like, Hmm, oh, well done.
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Where's Abel?
And Gain's?
Like, oh, I dunno.
He's, he's up in the, the hillsdoing nothing as always, just
playing on his flute.
Looking after the sheep.
But look, look, come and lookover here.
Look.
So I've, created cordon ble and,I've got this amazing new recipe
that I can't wait for you totry.
Are you gonna stay for dinner?
I'd love you to stay for dinner.
Please stay.
I, I've, I've learned how toferment grapes and I've created
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this thing called wine and God'slike, yeah, I mean, maybe next
time.
Thank you.
I appreciate the invite.
I'm, I'm just gonna go and seeAbel and Cain sits there all
night drinking his wine on hisown fuming because he can hear
God hanging out in the hills,laughing and having the best
time just hanging out with Abel.
And Cain hates this and it keepshappening.
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Every time God comes to see him,he is there for a little
precursory visit and then justdisappears for days it can be
hanging out with Abel up in thehills.
And so came thinks, you knowwhat?
I'm gonna get rid of my brother.
If I get rid of my brother, I'llhave God all to myself.
so Kane invites Abel over fordinner.
Hey, Abel, I have created a newdish called Carbonara.
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I am so in love with it.
It's my favorite meal.
You've got to try it.
So Abel comes and sits at thetable he starts tucking into his
dinner and Kane comes up behindhim with the knife and slits his
throat and watches as hisbrother's blood paws all over
the table.
And he buries him in the gardenunder a bank of tomato plants.
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And one day, soon after Godcomes to visit and he says to
Ka, have you seen Abel?
And Cain says, not for ages.
Actually, I think he said he wasgoing on a holiday or going for
a long walk or something.
But look what I've done.
I've just invented the headdrunk Collider.
Check this out.
God's like, yeah.
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Kane, where is Abel?
Cain's like, yeah, I honestly, Ihave no idea.
I'm sure he'll be back soon.
I mean, I dunno.
He just, he likes to wander.
Doesn't he just disappear intothe hills?
It's one of the things that hedoes.
But, yeah, look, I, I, I'vecreated a saw and I've been
chopping down trees and I, I'vemade a whole new supermarket and
you can buy all your produce inone place.
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How clever is that?
And God says, look, Cain, I knowwhat you've done.
You've murdered your Abel,you've murdered your abilities.
And that's what Able is able isour abilities.
And our cain is the thinking andthe thinking and cane kill our
abilities because.
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This part of us that is scaredof not being good enough is the
bit of scared.
That's scared of being murderedbecause able came first.
Cows, dogs, stones, rivers, allliving things are able, they're
able to be themselves.
The dog is able to be a dog.
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It's not, it's not ever sittingthere fretting about whether
it's doglike enough or if it'sas good as the other dogs and,
oh God, I'm not the best dog.
Even when there is peckingorders, like they'll, they might
be trying to like get to the topof their thing, but they're not
fretting about it.
They're not crying about it.
They're just being dogs.
We were human.
We were just being human,getting on with our, whatever it
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was, eating nuts and berriesand.
hanging out in the trees,whatever it was we were doing.
And then at one point, as a, andI think this is what the Garden
of Eden myth is all about, it'sthe metaphor of we ate from the
tree of knowledge.
Somehow we took the seed ofknowledge of inspiration, which
is actually myro in the, the,the seed of inspiration.
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And we took it and swallowed itand it was like we put a plugin,
you know, like on in computersyou have a plugin that you add
to the computer and it.
It suddenly gives you a wholebunch of other stuff, but the
computer can exist without theplugin.
And we ate this thing and itgave us consciousness.
And suddenly the men feared thepast and the future.
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They toiled in the fields.
they fretted, they worried, theyworried about things.
'cause you can only worry if youare aware of time.
And time doesn't really exist.
It's a made up concept.
But a dog or a cow are notworrying about the past of the
future.
Like they might have just gotchased by a predator.
But once that's gone, they'rejust back to relaxing.
they'll have their instincts onalert at all times to make sure
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they're not getting eaten, butthey're not gonna be worrying
about when they got chased lastweek.
And they're not gonna bethinking, oh God, in the future
I'm gonna get eaten or whatever.
They're just currently chewingsome grass with their spider
senses on they're being presentand.
Once we ate from the tree ofknowledge and became conscious,
we were able to store memoriesand we were able to feel like
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this and that and think aboutthis, and that means this, and
maybe they're gonna be there.
And the, and all of thesethings, which is incredibly
useful and is why we're top ofthe food chain and why we are
nothing like the other animalson the planet because we got
consciousness.
But.
It knows, this plugin knows thatyou could live without it and
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this plugin is your cane.
And Cain therefore knows that itcould be murdered and brings the
murder to the party.
Abel's not out to murderanything.
Abel's just cracking on beingable it, it doesn't think like
that.
Canin is the bit that thinks thecane is the bit that gives you
neurosis and paranoia andfeelings of unworthiness and all
of the thoughts that you haveand all of the inner dialogue
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that takes up all your headspace that gives you depression
is all cane.
And that is the bit that isruling the world.
It's the bit that is all outerworld.
It's the, the outer half of thatinfinity symbol with the
sphincter in the middle thatthen takes you to able and able
does not have language because.
Language came with Canin able issilent.
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It is a dumb twin that doesn'tspeak.
That is just feeling an emotionand action and presence and
experience and, and intuitionand dreaming and creativity.
And it's the bit that falls inlove and it's the bit that
creates art.
And it's the bit that we havecut off and thrown out with when
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we, chose the enlightenment.
And our world is fucked becauseof that.
Because we don't have more timefor Abel, because we don't make
time for Abel.
It's why.
On the microcosm we're fuckedpersonally.
And why in the macro we'refucked collectively Because we
need to let Abel back in.
We need to invite him back.
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We need to within ourselves, bea better parent.
Because if you are a parent oftwins and you have a really
loud, noisy twin that's alwaystrying to get your attention and
a silent, shy, dumb twin thatliterally doesn't speak as a
good parent, you need to givetime to both of them.
Because actually, if you aregiving all your attention to
Cain, then that child knows thatat some point your attention
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could switch.
Even if they're getting all theattention, all they're gonna do
is.
Work harder to maintain thatattention.
It's a bit like getting fame andthat's, there's no like end to
fame if you win the attention ofthe masses, you have to keep
generating more and moreattention and get more and more
famous because it might all juststop any second and then you'd
lose everything.
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And that's how you feel.
If you are of twin with a parentthat's got you as the favorite,
then you, you, that's not goodparenting really.
If you've got a loud twin and asilent twin.
The good parenting comes fromtreating them both equally and,
and giving them both the equalamount of time and, and love and
compassion and, and yeah, yourattention.
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So how do you create able time,It feels magic when you do it.
It's beautiful things like manyof the chaos crusades that have
been suggested are about able,so going for intentional walks
and going for walks in natureand not listening to music and
not being distracted and givingyour attention away to other
things.
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Giving attention to this thinginside, and even just talking
about it, my able, I can feel itnow inside me, just sort of
squirming like a baby that I'mholding, that knows that it's
being loved and observed and,and thought about when so often
it's ignored.
It's such a key thing for ourfuture, and that that part of us
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is infinite and that is the partthat connects us all.
And that's where our compassionis.
You know?
So, so we really need to tune inwith that, with everything
that's going on in the world isto remember our silent swim.
The cane aspect is the thinking.
So the thin king is this kingwho lives in a tower, and it's
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got every book and every bit ofknowledge.
The internet is in there,everything is in there.
It's the full Wikipedia, all theencyclopedias, everything that's
ever been is in there, and he isjust ferociously reading it all
and filling himself up andfilling himself up.
The more he reads and the morehe learns, the thinner he gets,
it's insatiable and it's dry andbrittle, and it's just never
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going to satisfy.
It's never going to fill thehole that he, because really
that is about letting it all goand relaxing and accepting the
unknown because The more youknow, the greater the
circumference of the unknown.
So if you imagine if you holdyour hands in a circle and then
that's the known, and then youkeep increasing the known and
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you spread your hands furtherand further and further apart,
the circumference around it ofthe unknown also increases.
And we've seen it in science.
The more we know, the more wedon't know, the more we move
away from that central focus.
The more out focus we get, theless known the, it just gets
more and more chaotic and we seeit as chaos, but actually it
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makes perfect sense to the innerworld and to whatever this thing
is makes absolute perfect sense,but it's not gonna make any
sense to us.
Because being fed towards thepresent, the moment, the central
dot of this sphincter where itdoes all make sense to some
extent, but the further awayfrom that you get the more
unknown we get.
And the unknown in the end isdeath and whatever is beyond
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this thing, which we will neverknow and we cannot know.
No matter what we do in the end,our time here is about becoming
relaxed with death and beingable to relax into death.
And this thing of being able toslip through the sphincter into
the other world with ease and tojust be at peace with it and
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money and control and trying tolive forever is all this game of
trying to avoid that.
But actually that's where thegold is.
And this sphincter and thisunderstanding of the inner and
outer world is where the realspiritual gift is.
It's where all the money in theworld does not fill the whole,
the hole is the gold.
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When you stop running away fromit, when you stop avoiding it
and you go, do you know what,actually that's the access to
the inner world.
It's where I'm gonna slipthrough when I die.
And that actually is where allof the gold is.
That's where.
The gift of this wholeexperience is, and if we can
relax and embrace it and notkeep trying to run away from it
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and own it and control it andbuild fortresses around it and
build up walls against it thatwill never find peace, that will
never find you peace.
It will only ever cause you moreanxiety and stress and, create
negative destruction in theworld at your hands for you to
create love and peace andcompassion and kindness.
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It's all about embracing thatjourney into the inner world and
that inner world where we allconnect up and that's what this
Gemini season is all about.
And it's what I've been sittingwith and reflecting on with
everything that's been going on.
there are things that are notokay, and it doesn't mean that
they're okay and it doesn't meanplastering over them or, letting
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things happen.
absolutely I'm up for the fight.
I'm always gonna be up for thefight, but it's to keep coming
back to and remembering thatthis is all just a story and a
play in a game, and we are allone.
Really the answer is love andcompassion, whatever's going on,
that is the answer.
justice and adjustment and,fairness and love and freedom
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and equality can be achieved.
But the roots to it is notthrough anger and fear and,
attack.
It's through love and compassionand truth and.
Listening.
there's always so many versionsto a story.
There are always so many sidesto everything.
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and that, that's actually kindof fascinating and wonderful to
keep coming back to that.
And there are many battles thatI've been embroiled in of late
that have all been whatever.
And I've had quite a lot ofvictory.
I've actually been victoriousand that's awesome.
But to remember that the enemyis not two dimensional.
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They are a three-dimensionalbeing who, aspects of, and
elements of there is space therefor love and compassion and
kindness and friendship.
So that's for me what the Geminienergy is all about.
And when we're working with thefool, we are working with this
twin because the twin isinfinite and connected to
everyone in the audience.
And so when you are working inthis way where you are revealing
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your twin, you are flipping yourinner world in front of you.
So it becomes part of the outerworld.
And they can see that you aredoing that.
They see how vulnerable you arebeing, and they open themselves
up as well.
And then we're all in this innerworld space and are able to
connect and share somethingspecial together that flips
reality, that breaks reality.
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And that's when fooling at itsbest when reality goes out the
window and we're doing somethingextraordinary that we wouldn't
normally do.
And the separation betweenaudience and Performer disappear
and we create something togetherand it's not like, oh my God,
it's audience participation, butit's like, let's go look for the
Messiah or let's go, let's go toa shop together.
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you know, the performance is ussuddenly crawling along the
pavement down the street orwhatever it is.
we no longer acknowledge therules of reality and we're
suddenly in our own littlebubble of like, anything's
possible and we start playingand it's, yeah, I've seen some
incredible things happen andsynchronicities and miracles
always happen when you're doingthis'cause you're in this space
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where you're sensitive andpresent and open to what's going
on.
One of the things we do infalling actually that like is a
really good way of, bringing thecanin enable aspect into focus
is we do a thing called twominutes, where we sit in a
circle and the, facilitatorholds a.
Stopwatch or a phone or whateverwith a two minute, timer on it.
And literally it's like everyonein the circle at some point's
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gonna get up and do two minutes.
And, you can do anything youwant.
You're not allowed to leave thecircle or use props or anything.
You just, it's just you and youare whatever it's, you're gonna
do.
But you are completely free todo anything you want.
don't hurt anyone, don't, youknow, don't physically touch
anyone.
But within the circle you arefree to do whatever you want.
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And it's just two minutes offreedom in this circle.
And you just get up when youfeel like it and the stopwatch
will start and once two minutesare up, we'll all cheer.
And it's such a brilliantexercise because.
You know, you've probably satthere and started doing this
already.
What would you do?
You start planning it.
Now that thing that's planningit that you get kind of excited
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about, you feel the juice, youfeel the juice of it inside of
you, that's your able, that'sdoing, that your able is and,
and your thinking, your cane hasengaged able to do that.
'cause there's no way Kane'sletting you get up without
having planned something.
Cain's like, fuck, what am Igonna do?
Oh my God.
Well, I'm not going firstbecause I dunno what anyone else
is gonna do.
I mean, what do you meanfreedom?
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Like, you gonna get up and takeall your clothes off and finger
yourself?
I mean, well, I don't know whatyou're gonna do.
Um, I'm gonna wait and see whatsomeone else is gonna do and
then based on that I'll try anddo something better.
Um, I'm thinking maybe, youknow, I'm really good at singing
that song and like, oh, I've gotthat little like standup comedy
skill that I've got.
I can, you're imagining it alland all the juices being used up
with your ableness in your headrather than outwardly in the
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circle.
And then when you do get up andyou start having your go.
Because it's coming from a placeof thinking, you'll do it really
fast.
Like if you've ever, been in aworkshop with kids doing drama,
they'll always do this.
They'll have something plannedand they'll do it really quickly
because your thinking isextremely fast.
It doesn't leave space foratmosphere to land or archetypes
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to, I mean, for anythingarchetypal to happen, which is
for an audience member, that'swhere the real juice of a play
is when you watch a play that'sgood.
There was some point where theygave space for the atmosphere
and the archetype and theemotion to fully land.
And if you're not giving spacefor that, then it's just all in
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the thinking.
It's all caught up in thinking.
So the access to doing thisexercise and not just getting up
as cane, leaving cane in theseat is to not plan what you're
doing.
Which is terrifying, thatactually it's a bit like doing a
bungee jump or something.
It's really exciting.
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Get up without anything planned.
Now what will often happen isyou'll just go blank, be white
noise.
Ignore that again.
'cause that's your thinkingmalfunctioning.
Like just, that's fine.
Let Kane do that.
So what you do is you just startdoing a movement, like wiggle
your finger, wiggle your finger,and they start wiggling your
other finger.
And then those fingers can keepwiggling and wiggling and they
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start wiggling out.
And then suddenly you find thatyou are doing some kind of a
dance and maybe that makes youfind a character or maybe it
finds some way of connectingwith the audience where they
start wiggling and dancing withyou.
And maybe you boop, the on thenose, which I mean, you're not
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meant to touch'em, but you couldjust do it.
Beep on the nose, do it, boop onthe nose, and be like, oh, oh,
where's the boot monster?
Did anyone see that?
Oh my God.
He might be under your seat.
Oh, it's the boop monster.
He's out.
He's escaped.
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Oh.
Hello.
Oh, I've been, I've been trappedfor many, many years, but now
I'm surrounded by little noses,so many noses, and I can't wait
to book them all quick.
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Oh, cover your nose.
He's out there.
He's gonna get us.
I might just be the boot monsternow, but once when I had more
attention and fear fed towardsme, I was actually the monster
that lived under your bed.
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But because everyone'simaginations are so squeezed dry
and tight, I've become nothingmore than a weak and feeble boop
monster.
Now, now that you are engagingyour amazing tiny little
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imaginations, maybe they'regoing to grow and develop and
imagine things far worse.
Well, once they used to imaginehell with demons and be lb, and
I was the great, I had clove andhooves and burnt wings and
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horns, and people fared me farand why.
But now, now I am just in it.
So that was completely ablipped.
I didn't know I was gonna dothat.
That came from me wiggling myfinger.
And so that's where.
that's where it will go.
So you let the movement lead andit takes you to something and it
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lets you go off into yourimagination.
And it's exciting because Ididn't know I was gonna do that.
And it's always fun to surpriseyourself when you've got it
pre-planned.
That's kind of, you know,boring.
And also you'll just do it froma thinking shallow place.
There won't be room for anythingto really develop.
And that's the joy of foolingand that is working with your
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twin.
So let's pull a room.
If you enjoy this podcast, thenplease consider supporting me on
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Patreon, which ispatreon.com/daily Ray.
I have, developed some followersand supporters who are helping
me and it's making a hugedifference.
So I wanna say a big, big thankyou to everyone who is donating
each month to keep this podcastgoing and to support me with the
work that I'm doing.
Honestly, especially through thetimes that I've been going
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through recently.
It means so much to me and Idesperately would love this to
develop and grow because itwouldn't take much.
I was thinking how few people itwould take for me to cover how
little I earn.
It'd be nice if that was likesomething I could just do a
shift or two a week and thatwould be, you know, sort of
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getting me outta the house,really paid to socialize, which
is great.
'cause in a way I kind of needsomething to make me do that
'cause I could very easily hermit and just write and create and
do fun things in the house'causeI have got a really deep
relationship with my inner worldand my twin, I can literally
spend all day.
Playing with, playing withmyself.
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I mean, I could literally dothat all day long, but it's good
to get me outta the house andactually having something that
forces me to go out, every weekis not a bad thing.
And I really enjoy the people Iwork with and I love.
Talking and connecting witheveryone at work, and it's a
lovely thing.
It's blooming hard work,especially now in the season.
Yesterday was, a busy, busySunday and I was on all day on
my own.
it's hard work.
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It's, and I'm not getting anyyounger, so it does take a quite
a toll on my body.
But just the thing is with, Ilove doing the government, which
I do for free.
I love doing all of the workthat I do, like the moon
ceremonies and stuff, which I dofor free, and the articles,
which I do for free, and thewriting books, which, you know,
you get like maybe a hundred orquid from like, it's nothing.
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Literally nothing.
I love doing all of thesethings.
I love doing the governmentbecause it's so interesting and
I feel like the most importantwork that I've done of late has
been fighting for and supportingand looking after this community
Helping develop and celebratethis community.
And I feel like it's suchimportant work in the world.
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I feel like it's my microcosm inthe macro and I feel like I'm
victorious over the fight that Ihad recently with the tendrils
of Trump ness in my reality.
we won.
And that was exciting and thatjust felt like such a victory.
Well, bloody darn us.
And yeah, just, I want to do it.
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I want to do it all.
It's interesting.
I've learned so much aboutmyself in these last few years,
I feel like I've gone touniversity and done a PhD or a
Master's in whatever this thingis, life in life.
I've learned so many thingsabout myself and you know, I
feel like I.
Know where my limitations areand where my uniqueness is in
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ways that I didn't know before.
my capacity for having to put onbig girl pants and deal with
things that awkwardconversations and difficult
decisions, like I've literallybeen forced, my face has been
forced to the millstone and it'sjust been like, oh my God.
I can't get away from howdifficult this situation is, but
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I'm facing it and I'm doing it,and it's fascinating and I'm
learning all sorts of things asI do it.
The problem is, is when I can'tthen eat at the end of the week,
and I'm also owning that beingpoor is actually a really big
part of who I am.
Like I have a moral high groundover all of the people that I
interact with here in thecommunity who are richer than me
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because I'm, I'm like bottom ofthe pile.
And it means that I can punchup, I can punch up all day long.
They can't punch down.
If they punch down, they lookedlike dicks and.
Yeah, I, and also how free I am.
So I've been meditating recentlywith the, affirmation
meditations of, I'm Free, I'mloved, I am, safe, and I am at
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peace.
And all of those things.
I was so, caught up and crunchedup inside that, that was just
making me cry at first when Iwas, saying that.
But now it's, I have soothed myway through that.
And I was thinking today aboutall the ways that I'm free, and
part of the way that I'm free isI have no debt whatsoever.
Literally none.
I don't have credit cards oroverdrafts.
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I don't have a mortgage.
I haven't, I don't own a house.
I don't own anything of anyworth of value, and I don't have
children.
And so I'm not in any way, heldor, Imprisoned by any of the
trappings of capitalism.
Like I don't have any stuff thatI care about.
the only things I care about aremy relationships and my inner
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world.
That's literally it.
So the people that I love and mycreativity are the only things
that I care about.
Everything else is just stuff,and it can go.
If someone needs to come andtake it all the away from me,
they're more than welcome to.
it is part of the reason why Iwas able to float my way over to
SARC when the shit hit the fanin the pandemic was because I
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was like, well, I'm not held byanything.
There's nothing.
There's no attachment that keepsme attached to the reality that
we fabricated, and that is realfreedom.
There's something about thatthat I'm like, this is actually
really key to who I am.
I do not need enough money.
I mean, I just need enough moneyto eat.
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I do not need to be rich andfamous.
I do not need loads of money.
It would actually becounterproductive for the fight
that I'm fighting and the workthat I'm doing.
I just wanna be able to like, Iwould like to be able to go on
holiday and go, you know, like Iwas talking about, how someone
was talking about Vietnam and Iwas like, oh, I've always wanted
to go to Vietnam and I currentlyfeel so incapable and, so out of
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the question that I could go toVietnam, like it, that was a
real shock because up until now,up until really literally this
year or last, like it startedlast year, I've always sort of
had some kind of freedom to dothat.
And my happiness used to bebased on whether I had an Airbnb
booked.
You know, I even rememberconsciously thinking about it.
It's like I always need to havethe next Airbnb booked.
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'cause it meant that I was goingaway traveling or going on
holiday.
And now that's so not part of myreality because I'm so much
poorer than I'd ever been.
But that's because everything'sgot so much more expensive.
And you know, I know that we areall feeling that this isn't a
private, personal thing.
We are all feeling it.
The money that I've earning,doing the work that I do three
years ago went a lot further.
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Three years ago, we could go onholiday and we could do things.
Now everything's got soexpensive that it just sort of
feels more and more like a trap.
And I'm assuming probablyeveryone feels like that.
And, yeah, so I know times arehard and so if you can't afford
to support me, totally get it.
if you are able to share my workand try and get more people
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listening, then that will help.
But literally, you know, if Ihad a thousand listeners paying
a pound each, that would beenough.
That's more than enough for meto be able to, you know, live
the life that I want to livecomfortably.
That's, that's all I need.
you know, I'm not asking to be.
Jet setting around the place allthe time.
It's just enough to like not doall this work and then at the
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end of the week be cryingbecause I can't eat.
'cause that's the thing that'sfrustrating.
when you literally are runningfrom one thing to the next, like
a headless chicken and then Ican't buy a portion of chips or
whatever, there are regularlypoints where I literally can't,
I've got nothing in the accountand I can't do anything.
so that's all it is.
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so the Patreon is three pound amonth for the basic tier, which
is just supporting me.
And then for nine pound a month,you get the videos of the
podcasts if you're able tosupport me, that'd be amazing.
just to let you know, I've got akooky club coming up on the 19th
of June.
I'm really excited about who I'minterviewing.
shout out to you'cause I knowyou're a listener.
I'm not allowed to say Ho'causeis a secret guest, but that is
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gonna be brilliant.
look up kooky events and GoogleKooky Secret Tea Club.
There'll be a new date uptickets are available for the
19th of June.
That'll be somewhere secret inGuernsey.
And it's all very exciting.
There's a lot going on in theworld of Kki, which is very,
very exciting.
And I can't wait for it all tounfold and got moon ceremony
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tonight.
But you won't, you know, thiswill already, this will be, that
will be in the past.
but I have my moon ceremoniesand you are always welcome to
come to them if you've neverbeen to one.
They're very, very inclusive andnot scary.
It is the best thing I've everdone on Zem.
It lends itself really well toZem.
I I don't, I've not experiencedany actually, Nessie Gomez's,
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uh, workshop worked really wellon zm, but, but these mean
ceremonies work so well.
Someone orchestrating and likechairing the, evening and us
just reflecting on theenergetics of the moon.
We are not doing anything madand weird and wacky.
It's almost like an arts club,but with the magic of the moon
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as the wash that we are workingwith.
So if it's been something you'vesort of been interested in, but
being a bit nervous about, Ijust urge you to come.
Like literally, you just have toclick on the link and come and
it's beautiful and wonderful andthere's a lovely group of people
that come regularly and thenthere's others that dip in and
out.
And yeah, highly recommend it.
So if it's something that's sortof tickled your fancy but you
haven't yet done, then I urgeyou to give it a go.
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And how on with the show?
Okay, let's see what we aregonna talk about today.
So what the universe wants us toexplore, the wheel of the air.
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Okay, so the wheel of the year.
So this is the cartwheel andthis is about this two shall
pass, which actually is kind ofuseful for where I've been at
and what I've been feeling.
It has been a really difficulttime lately and I'm in a much
better place today.
Yesterday, last night I wasreally not okay.
I was aware that my cycle of mymenstrual cycle means that I'm
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in the pre-menstrual momentwhere I'm not in a good place.
Like it does affect mypsychology quite a lot, my
mental health, quite a lot.
yeah, I get more.
P-M-S-P-M-T, whatever you callit.
Then I do period pains andthings like that.
I've been, I'm actually reallylucky with my cycle'cause it's
short and sweet I'd say.
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And although it's annoying'causeit means that I get more periods
a year.
I also get more ovulations ayear.
So I think you know's takingthem off of the smooth.
But it's useful for this tonudge me to remember that this
too shall pass.
'cause it's, it's about theseasons and cycles and things
moving.
We actually pulled, that was thecard that we pulled.
I talked about it last week withsisterhood.
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Uh, we did this amazingrehearsal where we used my, it
was Coco who was playing theyoung girl.
Kitty.
Kitty, I think her name was in,in the book and in the play.
Our names don't get said in theplay, but I think it was Kitty.
And then in the book that Iwrote afterwards, it was Kitty.
So that was Cara's part that wasimprovised.
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But then Coco performed her shehad this tarot deck that she
brought to a rehearsal and weall pulled cards for our
characters and they wereextremely insightful.
they added a different layer towhat we were doing.
It was a really good performancetechnique.
If you're ever rehearsing aplay, I do recommend putting a
card for your characters oncethey're like, we were fully
embedded in, this was like oneof the last things we did before
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we went off on tour.
So, interesting.
And then, and then all the wayalong, I hadn't known what I
wanted to say to MatthewHopkins.
I knew that we were doing thistour, going to all the places
where he'd beam, and I knew wewere gonna be at his birthplace
at Halloween where his grave wason the full moon at Halloween.
And I was like, you know, in myhead imagining us screaming and
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shouting and wailing at thisgrave and just being like, fuck
yeah.
You know, again.
Envisaging and creating an enemyand other, a separation, a split
where we are like putting it allover there and it's not us.
And just, you know, putting allthis anger and fury at this
thing as, as an other.
And it wasn't quite, I was justlike, God isn't, it wasn't quite
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speaking to me and inspiring me.
It felt a bit like it was gonnabe clunky and embarrassing or
whatever.
Like, I just was like, thisisn't it, this isn't hitting the
emotional gong.
And then, it was suggested whenwe did the, cards for our
characters, it was like, shallwe pull a card from Matthew
Hopkins?
and we pulled the wheel ofFortune card.
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in this particular deck.
It was a circle at a cartwheel.
And then in between each spokethere were women.
the spokes at the bottom hadthese three women with long dark
hair in blue, and it was allblue and dark and they were in
despair.
And it looked like three womenwho'd been accused of
witchcraft.
And then it went round to thesewomen at the top who were these
three women with their arms inthe air who were like full of
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power and confidence.
And they were golden and yellowand glowing.
And it was like, oh yeah, thistoo shall pass.
Whatever's happening, this tooshall pass.
But also it was right at thebeginning of, the throw of the
she is rising and the femininerising and this surge of
feminine power that's been verymuch coming from the spiritual
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world of late.
You know, in the face of toxicmasculinity and the term toxic
masculinity and everything wasall just coming out.
And it was right at that moment.
And it was like, no matterwhat's going on in the world,
and no matter what tyrants thereare, they too shall pass.
It all shall pass.
And there are cycles withincycles because these guys have
come into power, but also we aswomen are coming into power.
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And yes, there was a MatthewHopkins, but he's dead now.
He's dead and gone.
Tuberculosis mother nature tookhim and killed him and he was
discredited and humiliated and,and he's gone.
You know, they won't lastforever.
I mean, yeah, right.
I was saying that, you know,Trump might be downloaded into
an ai, but even that at somepoint will malfunction or get
hacked or whatever, like it willall pass.
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And that was just a realinspiration.
Our thing that we were saying toMatthew Hopkins and about
Matthew Hopkins was just toforgive and forget him.
And like I say, at one pointwhen we did that and we were
saying it in the performance,there was a huge crack of
thunder and, and it literally asI said it and everyone in the
audience was like, oh, you know,so it obviously like annoyed
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him, which is great.
So how to forgive and forget andmove on.
And that is coming full circle,like the Cartwheel round two.
What led me onto all of this?
'cause I was really, yeah.
Yesterday I was fracked withguilt and also anger and upset
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and all the things that I feel.
There are so many things that Ifeel about everything that's
happened lately and I'm angrywith people and I do blame
people And at the same time,they are human beings.
And I must also and want to.
Connect with my compassion andmy love and my understanding and
my openness and my listeningbecause I wasn't feeling good in
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myself, not including those inthe mix and just being finger
pointy and angry and, you know,othering and separating to bring
everything back, to bringeverything back to myself and
yeah, this too shall pass.
And it is all a circle andcycles and it's all just a mad
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bunch of stuff that's happeningand, to enjoy the ride.
Yeah, this was actually one ofthe, rings on the pilgrimages as
well.
The cartwell.
This was the start of the.
Cop 26 pilgrimage.
And it was interesting'causewhen we arrived in the Isle of
White where this was thebeginning run and that's where I
was gonna put it.
I put it in the dragon's nostrilon the edge of the isle of white
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at the start of the spine ofAlbion where the Ellen and
Bellinus lines crossed.
And I put this run there and itwas funny'cause when we arrived
there was a motorbike festivalgoing on.
So there were millions of wheelseverywhere, which is just an
interesting extra thing aboutthis ring.
And that was, to indicate thebeginning of a journey.
'cause it can literally mean thewheel and a journey as well.
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And we're always on a journey.
There's always the beginning ofa journey.
It's the eternal greatbeginning.
And so let's journey fearlesslyinto the unknown and do it with
love and compassion and kindnessin our hearts.
so that was the rumination.
And now for our Chaos Crusade.
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This week's Chaos Crusade is aninvitation to connect more with
your able and, silence a little,the Cain aspect.
'cause in Gemini season it'svery easy to get overwhelmed
with thinking and shortattention spans and
distractions.
There is something that I wouldrecommend doing.
So if you're not doing the WitchFool you course, then a little
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course you can do off your ownback is the Artist's way.
I have recommended this beforeon the podcast, but as time goes
on, I'm gonna keep recommendingthings because they're cyclical,
at certain times of the year,it's good to work with certain
things.
This being one of them.
In Gemini season, I reengagewith the morning pages, which is
an exercise from the Artist'sway.
If you haven't done the artist'sway before, it's a good time to
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do it because it's aboutengaging with your able and
there's lots of exercises in itto support you with that.
In the artist way, it talksabout writing morning pages,
which is an exercise you do inthe morning where you just write
three pages and it's literallyabout emptying your brain.
Like of all of the negativestuff, it's, they're not for
rereading, they're not for beinggood and brilliant and perfect.
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It's for emptying your brain ofthe dross and the dirt and the,
the nasty stuff.
So they're not gonna be nice.
A lot of people burn them orwhatever, and I don't do them
all year round.
I only do them during Geminiseason.
So it's a, it's a good practice.
You know, in Pisces season, Iwrite my dreams and I always,
generally, I write my diary atnight.
'cause I like to write downeverything that happened that
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day and kind of my process orwhat I've learned that day.
So it's my, it's called a mirrorbook when it's an evening.
But where you are, you are doinga reflection and reflecting back
on the day.
And I prefer that.
I tried doing morning pages fora while.
My journal and diary has gonethrough many phases depending on
what cult or movement I happento be in at the time.
sometimes it's been cartoons andpoems.
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Sometimes it's been morningpages, sometimes it's been
landmark education.
It is currently that I write mydiary in the evening and it's a
reflection, which sort of mydefault that I normally go back
to.
But I'm gonna add in morningpages at the moment.
The reason why I don't do themall the time is because I can't
keep doing all the practicesthat I do.
Like I can't do yoga and do mymorning practice of yoga and
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meditation and go swimming andgo out while swimming in the
sunshine.
I haven't got time to do all ofthem and I haven't got time to
do them and do morning pages.
I have to kind of pick andchoose and some things are more
important than others atdifferent points.
So, as the sun's come outrecently, I need to get my
fitness levels back up because Ididn't go on a pilgrimage last
year and so make the most of thesunshine and the swimming.
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So I've been going out swimming,recently been feeling a bit
stiff'cause I haven't been doingyoga of late.
So then recently I've been doingyoga again and doing my yoga
meditation practice also.
'cause my brain had got a bitbusy and so now having noticed
that my brain was busy doing themorning pages is a really useful
added tool that's worth me doingat the moment.
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You literally just write threepages.
Doesn't matter the size, it'swhatever book you've got.
You just write three pagesreally quick without thinking
and just clear your brain out ofall the dross.
And then another exercise is togo on an artist date.
So once a week, go on an artistdate, and that is going to a
gallery and looking at art orgoing to a stationary shop and
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buying stationery.
It's something that's beingcurious and open and just doing
something for the fun of it, notthinking about it, it not being
a thinking thing.
You leave cane alone and you goon a date with your artist, with
your fool, with your twistedswim.
And so that can be going for awalk in nature where you haven't
planned, where you're gonna go,and you just follow, you follow
the birds, there's loads ofthings that we've put in this
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podcast as chaos crusades thatyou could use as inspiration
for, I don't know, following thegeology or the architecture or
road signs and looking at fontsor looking for a color.
You can pick a color and go outand look for where that color is
and follow the color.
Literally let the universe lead.
Let your twin and inner worldlead.
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so that's the morning pages andthe artist state that both come
from the artist's way.
And then, the other one isgratitude lists.
Now this is something that willjust be useful for me.
If you are in a negative placeand you're feeling a bit crap,
the writing gratitude list isanother great exercise.
So get up in the morning, doyour morning pages.
Maybe one of those pages couldbe a gratitude list.
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So like do two pages of gettingrid of whatever, and then do a
list of things you're gratefulfor.
Because the more you aregrateful, the less you're
negative.
And it's just to remember allthe things that you are lucky to
be experiencing right now andthat make life worth living.
And I need a bit of that'causeI've been feeling so negative
and getting into negative leaps.
I need a bit of that.
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So they're just things that Iknow I would find really useful
at the moment.
So thank you ever so much.
That's, everything for today.
Next week I'm gonna be sharingan interview with my friend
Naomi, who is a fool, but from adifferent lineage to my lineage
of fooling, which is withJonathan K.
so it'd be interesting to justhear a different take on falling
from another perspective.
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So I'll share that with you nextweek, and until then, I shall
see the anon.