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December 4, 2025 62 mins

Kim Fields sits down with Pam Warner (mother of Malcolm Jamal Warner) and Candace to have a real, unvarnished conversation about what it really takes to survive decades in this business without losing your mind, your soul, or your family.

From growing up on iconic sets like Facts of Life and The Cosby Show to becoming directors, producers, and wellness leaders, Kim and Pam break down the difference between designing a career and just booking gigs. They talk about:

Why fame without foundation will make you “lose your mind”

Parenting showbiz kids while still actually parenting

Money, ego, and when the child becomes the breadwinner

Why some actors create their own work instead of waiting for the phone to ring

Grief, legacy, and the village that held them together when the calls did stop

This is for anyone raising creative kids, anyone in the industry, or anyone trying to build a life that’s deeper than likes, red carpets, and microwave fame.

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Not All Hood (NAH) podcast takes a look at the lived experiences and identities of Black people in America. Infused with pop culture, music, and headlining news, the show addresses the evolution, exhilaration, and triumphs of being rooted in a myriad of versions of Black America.

Hosted by Malcolm-Jamal Warner, and Candace O.Kelley

Executive Producer: Layne Fontes

Producer & Creative Director: Troy W. Harris, Jr.


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