October 30, 2025 • 21 mins
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97.9's Host Big Dawg Blast, Chris Carsyn, and UknowCell sit down with the one and only Peezy one of the Detroit’s hottest voices in the game. 💯 They’re talking music, the grind, new album, Detroit’s impact on hip-hop, and some exclusive stories you won’t hear anywhere else. 👀💬Â
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97.9's Host Big Dawg Blast, Chris Carsyn, and UknowCell sit down with the one and only Peezy one of the Detroit’s hottest voices in the game. 💯 They’re talking music, the grind, new album, Detroit’s impact on hip-hop, and some exclusive stories you won’t hear anywhere else. 👀💬Â
🎧 Tap in for real talk, Detroit energy, and unfiltered vibes — this episode goes beyond the mic! 👉 Follow Off The Air: Beyond The Mic, 97.9's Podcast for more raw convos, laughs, and culture from the D! 🚦🎶
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I man off every yard in the mic.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Big don Blast, Chris Carson, you know sal and Man,
we got him, We got him off the road.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Man, he got off the playing. He said, I'm come
over to see y'all. Man. Ps, he's in the building.
I was about to say, welcome home. But you always
you ain't never left her. You need me. I'm right,
I'm always kind of close for the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
For show, I told p I said, man, you are
a Detroit ghetto to a guy for the people out
of town. Because every interview out here watching and they've
been asking what's what is it like in Detroit? I'm like,
what did they expecting him to say?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Man, just getting out there, Man, just you know, a
lot of people from our way we don't really do
media like that, you know. So it's just like it's
fun to me just getting out there. Just mean people saying,
just you know, everybody want to know what it's like
up here for real because they got the wrong they
got the wrong like idea of what Detroit is. So
(00:54):
I'll be like, man, it's clearer of real life for real.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Let me ask you this and touch on that when
you say a lot of people don't do a media.
Why do you feel that? Because I'm so appreciative to
have you here, But why do you think that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know, in Detroit, like we just think we cool.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm here, I like where you all.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I just think were so cool. Like I don't know
why we feel like that, Like we feel like we
ain't got to put the work.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
In, Like you know, that's my first time meeting you
first time.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm like, so it's like, I mean, I'm for a
long time. For a long time, Like with me and
the radio, it was like I ain't really had no
relationship with the radio, so I was on some I'm
just in the street with it, Like long was the
club mess with me? I'm cool, but like I didn't
know how important this part of it was.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And when did you figure that piece out?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
When I like when I got to making real records,
Like you know what I'm saying. At first, we was
rapping having fun, but like when I got to making
real records and I'm like, oh, this, how is really done?
Like you really got to go through this part for real?
You know what I'm saying, I ain't really know how
important this part was. Yeah I like.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That, Yeah for sure for sure? Now you talk about
making real records. Obviously you got the new album I'll
still Ghetto. But you've been going around the world, you've
been doing media, and you've been talking about dtrait and
as a fan of you and knowing you for a while,
I gotta I got a question for you.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
You've been doing it for so long, and you have
some legendary features, legendary singles. I'm gonna name a couple
records for you, and you just tell me, like which
one you feel meant like the most to you. So
obviously you come from the group, so I'm gonna put
the TV side records in there. You got Needy, you
got if you don't work, you don't eat, a newer one,
you know for fans, build a bear.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And then you got records.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Like ol La, Like what do those records mean to
you along your journey?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It means a lot to me because like them, the
records that keep me standing, Like them, the records that
I can go before anywhere, and they it's a big
response to the records, like no matter what wherever I go,
like them, like them songs. Right, They're gonna stand strong,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like foundation, Yeah,
that's that's definitely. That catalog is crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So when you on tour, is it that I feel like,
when you're on tour and you're figuring out, you know,
like your set lists and stuff like that, what's that
closing song for you that you're like, Oh, yeah, that's
what I'm sending them home to two million?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
But I don't really got it. I ain't really got
to close out to that though. It's just my biggest
song I could really close out to, like I'm Good
Part five and My Shoulder that I could, like, I
got shipped that two million up was the one, but
I got yeah, yeah, yeah, I got real shit for real.
Yeah I can close my song. I can close my
show out to a few different songs for real. Would
you expect that? You mean you have to do exactly
(03:38):
what it is? Man? No, but yeah, the same. Yeah.
I kind of knew how special it was because I
had set on the song for a year and I
actually had my own idea and I spent my own
money and like directed the video myself. So it was
like something about the song was special to me, you
know what I'm saying. I wrote the treatment, like I
(03:58):
made sure it was like playing out to the tea
and they came out exactly how I wrote it. So
I sat on it for a year, like pause, Like
I sat on the song just trying to like prep
up for an album. I just throwing singles out this
shit but got fire instantly, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I had realized, like listening to it a couple of
times said yo, wrapping.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Over the lyrics, other other I can get my man
in the background. Made me. They made me like take
it serious because I wasn't putting it on my album.
I just threw it out. But the song was like
getting like over one hundred thousand views a day on YouTube,
and and like as the views is growing, like guys,
(04:38):
he's like, we gotta take this song. It's a real single.
This the one right here. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Speaking of Gazi, man, you know an interview he was
he was in you said, that's like your real friend
right there, man, tell me about that relationship.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's just my boy. Man. He's just a good person. Man,
Like I'm pretty sure to hold the trick and tell
you that. You know what I'm saying, Like before anybody
really gave us a chance, like he he's seen something
in us that nobody's seen like and he took chances
on kids from the street, like and a lot of
us didn't graduate from school, Like he gave us money
(05:09):
with like no education, and like you know what I'm saying,
like investing in our future and like seeing something in
us that no other label scene. So it's like I
really can't explain it, Like when you like that type
of person, like it's beyond a label or money, Like
that's a real person, Like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
seeing something in these kids around here and investing his
(05:31):
own money into him, whether he lost or won, he
did it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That's what And you could tell them relationships real because
you like we see it in real time like with
you and then we're real like when people y'all coming
home and things like that, and he's there like to
support y'all. So having a person like that behind y'all.
Can only imagine, like what confidence that gives you when
you in the studio making that music, you know somebody
gonna be behind you pushing it too.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well, first of all, he a busy man. Yeah, Like
he's like a real owner and CEO of the company,
like and we just we just artists here. He got
Afro Nation artists all like he be all over the world.
Like ain't no telling where guys he might be at,
you know what I'm saying. So if he take time
out whatever he's doing to come pull up on you,
(06:16):
that means something anyway, Like that's that's special, that the
that the boss would come, even that he that you
mean that much to him. You know what I'm saying.
Everybody don't got that relationship with him.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I'm just a girl, But I do want to know.
Do you feel like your career elevated even more after
you did your time and came back to music, Yeah,
for sure. Was you scared when you went in? Did
you think like when I come out, Like, did you
feel like you were starting over? Because I feel like
the hype was even more when you came home.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It was like at first, at first, before I knew
how much time I was getting. In my mind, I'm like,
I feel I'm prepared to do five years and I'm like,
I'm gonna come home and be rich. I guys do
that because I had it in my mind like like
was going I didn't know exactly how much time I
was getting. But it's like when you hear federal, When
(07:04):
people think federal, they be like automatically like, oh, you
finling get a lot of time, you know. And then
I'm talking to different people and they're like, well, if
the people give you ten years, you better take it.
Hearing all this different ship and I'm like, I'm prepared
to do fire real quick. Fuck it. I just come
home with. But I already knew when I knew what
I was gonna be when I came on from jail.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So when you went there, you knew, like, I'm about
to just use the time. What was you in there
writing with?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I ain't start off writing. I ended up writing. Yeah,
I wrote a lot of music in jail, like some
of my songs, like some of my biggest ship. I
wrote a few of them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Okay, And then go ahead, when you came home this fashion,
I feel like your fashion went up, Like facts, do
you have a stylist?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, I don't got no stylist. I don't believe in stylis. Like,
I don't even take fashion tips from people unless it's
my girl, because I know she really cared about me.
I got my girl bad so I feel like if
she except addressed in the whole real shit, except.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, I love well you do got a silnist your.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Girl, and she let me do me. So it's like, yeah,
do you hear.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
A lot of people talking about your style and the
way you dressing things? Now?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, but the same people go to these stores and
ask for my office?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Right yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
People call me and asked me, bro, what shoes should
I put on? What what shirt should I wear with this?
To like I'm like a big thing getting this FASTI
and ship around.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Here, like and who's your inspiration? Like where are you
getting this from? Because you do be stepping out the box.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It's just like I rather not look like nobody. I
like that, you know what I'm saying. Like, I rather
just I don't want to look like nobody. I don't
want that ship if they wearing it, like, well, it
ain't even that like because I like, I've been wearing
ship that don't call I ain't been running them all,
just spending thousands on jackets and ship like I used
(08:55):
to do that ship, but that ain't what I'm own.
Like fashion ain't got no price on it. It's really
just comfortability. Like if you're comfortable in your shit, Like
right now, I got on the benched shirt with some
oversize like sweatpants and like, you know, some problems. I'm clean,
I'm classy. I can go to a club, or I
can go chill my kids, or I could, like you
know what I'm saying, that's what I be on. I feel,
(09:15):
but i'd be having on pieces though, like the ship
that I that I'm gonna have on, you're gonna be
able to wear in twenty years from now, you know
what I'm saying. Look at it like that. So people
be talking but they don't really know what fashion is.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They talking, but they taking out.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, now, talk to me about this social media man,
because for people who know you, they know that you
like a funny guy. But how important has social media
been to you, lady? I see you be going crazy
on the TikTok, posting funny videos and all that type
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So how important has that been for you? Lady? This
just this the time when yeah, ain't know if you
sitting back trying to act like you ain't ain't nobody
caring about that cool shit? Like people want to know
if you funny, like if you've got a good personality
and that's just me, Like I'm a funny nigga, Like
everybody know that, you know. So I just be doing
me like I'm gonna post some ship, like if somebody
say something, I'm gonna say something back, like I'm that
(10:05):
type of guy. Like I'm not no fucking robot, you
know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But I feel like when you get in this industry
with social media, it's so hard to find people that's
still authentic to themselves in that post because you know,
most niggas be like, no, I'm not about y'all. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Lost, Like I can't get lost in this fake ass
world because it's not real. Like when you put the
phone down and come outside, you got to live in
real life, you know what I'm saying again, Like you
can get caught up in this ship that's going on
these apps, but when you put that ship down, when
you close that app, like life continues. God damn be something,
(10:44):
you know what I'm saying. So I live in a
real world, Like I don't let this this ship like
control me. Like people get lost in this ship like
it ain't that serious. It's really not real for real.
They can take this ship from you so fast, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I got a couple of questions, man, when she said
she was a girl and she wanted to ask a
questions her.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You speak on your.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Girl as far as your this album is U. I
heard you say something like I feel like it's more
for women, and I heard you say that before.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What made it? What made you go that way?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Is that something you tried to do for the women or.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
My bagman to cut you off? You no, but that's
just the former little music, Like that's just the formula.
Like if you study music, then you know you gotta
have female music, you know what I'm saying. So that's
just what I'm a real artist. Like every every album
I ever had had two three girl songs on and
them be like the ones like I can go perform
my girl songs, girls at my shouls. Yeah, girls be
(11:37):
front roll and my ship, like you know what I'm saying.
So yeah, that's the thing, man, I cater to women.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I noticed too, man, that like in your interviews like
talking to us right now, like you kick you popping
with us, you know what I mean? That hold back
and you never was really like that in the beginning
stages were brought you here right now?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Why is it like that? I don't really know. Like
as I got older, I'm like just growing into who
I really am, Like I never really knew I was
like this either, Like you know what I'm saying. I'm
just I'm just growing into probably like who I who
I really am?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Like you know what I'm saying, that's that grown man.
I'm like that you elevate, you mature, you know, growing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Man, like thirty six not bro, I'm finna be forty
in four years.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You know what I'm saying, Like how to taste saying that,
I gotta be Like.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You know what I'm saying, Like it's real man, So
that like I'm eighteen though, yeah right right right, you
still have the energy of that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So with that being said, you know, the album's cast
still ghetto. How long we're gonna be ghetto?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
If we grow it like what we're doing, I'm gonna
always be ghetto, okay, you know because I know how
to turn it on and off. Okay, I know how
to be ghetto when I need to be. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. But they don't mean I ain't corporate,
you know, what I'm saying, like still ghetto, just mean,
like I still walk around right here, not done right,
Like I don't give a fuck about matching, Like, but
(12:55):
I still go to a business meeting to handle it
the corporate way and get the deal done. Still be me.
It's just all that shit mean like you might catch
me like I don't care about learning this. You know
what I'm saying. This shit don't mean nothing to me.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
When I bumped into you last week, I was really
surprised to see you outside of the floods. I was
leaving out of floods and Peez.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Was out there. I'm like, you gonna see me?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But I like that, you know what I'm saying, because
you get some people that come from the city and
once they make it, they like, but then it's also
a thin line, like how do you make that? You
know what I'm saying, because I feel like, once you
make so much money, we know where we're from, we
know how it is out here. How do you make
that determination or where you can still slide and where
you can't? Gotta have it right to You're like, that's
(13:33):
why I'm still goett out.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I just gotta be like, you know, like everybody. I
ain't no chump or nothing like, right, I got a
serious team, like you know what I'm saying. Like for
the most part, people really love and respect me though,
because I show love and respect, you know what I'm saying,
Like when you see me, I'm a real person. I
got real energy. I'm not no fake guy. Like I'm
not gonna not take no picture with you. If you
(13:56):
shake my hand, We're gonna shake hands like malk you
in your We're gonna he did have a gonna play
with me like you're gonna see. You're gonna see me
moving around. You might see My team might be spread
it all out. They were, you know what I'm saying.
Not I might be alone, but I'm not alone, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I know it is there uh Detroit artists out here
that you haven't worked with that you would you know,
is it anybody that you like? I would like to
do something with them.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I want to see some singers come up.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It needs to be something.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I want to work with some good singers from here,
Like I want to make some real music, Like we
gotta get on these radio, like we got a chart
like you the money not streaming like the money on
the radio. The money is when you can go pack
these arenas out and pack these shows out. Like I
need some singers. We need to work with some singers,
like it ain't no more kids, like we're the kids,
(14:51):
like right, so different, it ain't like painted the wrap,
like the kids can't even have fun, Like it ain't
even it ain't hot. It used to be when a
little bile while and little Romeo and you know what
I'm saying, Like we used to be able to come
home from school, turn on BT and have something. Right,
(15:12):
that's the type of ship. Take my time and be
and beal with that type of artist, like, yeah, I
ain't with all this right ship, you know what I'm saying.
Like if somebody got their man made up on being
as gangstay as they want to be, go ahead, I'm
not on that. Like I'm working with somebody who trying
to excel and be something like I'm the type of
artist I'm working with. I want to work with singers
(15:34):
who passionate about this ship, who can write, man working
with writers. I want to work with some kids and
some choirs, And you know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Saying, Let's see if I write ay By, Now I
can tell what mine state you into for this album, bro,
because the elevation of it, you know, production wise, even
you know, the elevation of the bars and the people
that you got a chance to work with on this project.
Speaking of moving around, how were you able to curate
this album and get some of these like big name
people on this project, you know, French Montana, two Chain,
(16:04):
you know, big shine, people like that, just to name of.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You shit, just relationships over money, like just being real,
you know what I'm saying, Just just first of all,
they fans of my music, like you know, you gotta
have good music too, though you niggas ain't just working
with you if you act. But I always I'm the
type of nigga who always tell somebody like, if you
need me, let me know, because I ain't never asking
(16:27):
nobody for shit, you know. So me just being that
type of person, just keeping my head down, working, working, working, working, working.
I guess when it was just time for me to
call my favorites in just like let's go right there.
You know what I'm saying. Do we already fucking with
you anyway? You know what I'm saying. Niggas like Ross
too Chain, French Montana, Big Sean you Herbo like it's
(16:47):
only a car, it's a phone call. That shit get done,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
And everything matching too, man, from the music to the
visuals and visuals been coming out glass.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's important. That like, that's an important part of it
because you can't just you can't be talking on this
level when your videos ain't looking like how you. I
don't think people know how important it is to have
everything lined up the right way, Like it's a look
that go with all this shit. Everything gotta look like
how you talking, you know what I'm saying. Even if
(17:17):
you're talking some old, some ghetto shit, you gotta be
on your ghetto shit right Yeah. But if you're talking
classy and you talking like a boss, you gotta be
looking like that. You gotta be moving like if people
want to see that shit.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
It's important now that you've made it. What advice would
you have to somebody from saying you there? You know,
people be like, no, no, you making it?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
You?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I mean you are at you making it though you're
an artist. I feel like if I go anywhere and
I say, Pezy, ain't know exactly what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
About what's making it though.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Fame making it I would say, is fame, I would
say money.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
In this industry.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean, I just feel like once you can walk
in room, people know who you are, people know your music.
I mean, it may not be the whole recipe, but
you you in the room, you there most what if
I can't move my mama little? That's true too. Making
it to everybody is different. It could be you know
(18:14):
that you got forced?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Did I make it? Or am I just famous?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
That's a good question. If you can't, have you made it?
If you But it depends on what success looks like
to you. I don't think success is just fained.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
If you can't provide for the most important people in
your life and you just famous, did you make It's.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
When I'm asking, mmm, that's a hard one. That's part
of it. But I think as long as it's to come, yes,
all right, I mean to each his own, because that's
also like saying if you ain't putting nobody else, ow
you know? Are you a boss?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Right? Saying I ain't make it? But I ain't saying
I made it either, Though.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I can appreciate that. I like that. I like that
I mean he's working. Yeah, you there, though, look like
I got more stuff to do.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I understand that. I'm appreciative of that, But it's like
making it. We got to start. We ain't we be
thinking people made it. That that ain't made it right
that a lot of people ain't made it who we
think made it.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I'm typically on stage introducing before you come out, and
when I say Pasy, I'm like, this made it. They
love him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's like you got the love of the people. But
to really make it, that's a real accomplishment to.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So what is making it to you?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
To me? Making it? Yeah, when your family is like cool, happy,
like in real happiness of financial freedom, like being able
to do whatever you want to do. It ain't no
dollartle mon on it. Like you know what I'm saying,
just living free, that's making it to me.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I want to be your cousins like my cousin.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Right. I got one more question, man, because we're twenty
minutes as a week. So are you saying how much
important radio is now? You're saying like you're like, yo, man,
we got to get to The streams are cool, but
the radio is really where it's at the two million up?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Help you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Did it take you there? I've been I've been feelt
like that before that. Okay, that's just the record that
just went radio. I've been feeling like that. I really
made me feel like that. Okay, but yeah, the radio
is the thing, the only thing that ain't going nowhere
for real? You change your dying man, look like you are?
You slimming up around here? What's happening? Yeah? I don't
(20:34):
really eat nothing for real. I really don't though. I
really I can say I don't eat this and net,
but I really don't eat nothing. My manager tell you,
I really don't eat nothing for real. I was just
telling him, like, you know, and he'd be like, bro,
stop telling me that, because I was just telling him
in the car. I'm like, bro, you know, like humans
eat like a credit card, work for plastic every week
(20:54):
through my really yeah, like a credit card, sass piece
of plastic. Get human consume?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Like do you eat like pork and beef and all
of that.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Don't eat no meat, no meat at all, not for real?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Hungry over your dog
I man off every yard in the mic.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Big don Blast, Chris Carson, you know sal and Man,
we got him, We got him off the road.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Man, he got off the playing. He said, I'm come
over to see y'all. Man. Ps, he's in the building.
I was about to say, welcome home. But you always
you ain't never left her. You need me. I'm right,
I'm always kind of close for the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
For show, I told p I said, man, you are
a Detroit ghetto to a guy for the people out
of town. Because every interview out here watching and they've
been asking what's what is it like in Detroit? I'm like,
what did they expecting him to say?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Man, just getting out there, Man, just you know, a
lot of people from our way we don't really do
media like that, you know. So it's just like it's
fun to me just getting out there. Just mean people saying,
just you know, everybody want to know what it's like
up here for real because they got the wrong they
got the wrong like idea of what Detroit is. So
(00:54):
I'll be like, man, it's clearer of real life for real.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Let me ask you this and touch on that when
you say a lot of people don't do a media.
Why do you feel that? Because I'm so appreciative to
have you here, But why do you think that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know, in Detroit, like we just think we cool.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm here, I like where you all.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I just think were so cool. Like I don't know
why we feel like that, Like we feel like we
ain't got to put the work.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
In, Like you know, that's my first time meeting you
first time.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'm like, so it's like, I mean, I'm for a
long time. For a long time, Like with me and
the radio, it was like I ain't really had no
relationship with the radio, so I was on some I'm
just in the street with it, Like long was the
club mess with me? I'm cool, but like I didn't
know how important this part of it was.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And when did you figure that piece out?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
When I like when I got to making real records,
Like you know what I'm saying. At first, we was
rapping having fun, but like when I got to making
real records and I'm like, oh, this, how is really done?
Like you really got to go through this part for real?
You know what I'm saying, I ain't really know how
important this part was. Yeah I like.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That, Yeah for sure for sure? Now you talk about
making real records. Obviously you got the new album I'll
still Ghetto. But you've been going around the world, you've
been doing media, and you've been talking about dtrait and
as a fan of you and knowing you for a while,
I gotta I got a question for you.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
You've been doing it for so long, and you have
some legendary features, legendary singles. I'm gonna name a couple
records for you, and you just tell me, like which
one you feel meant like the most to you. So
obviously you come from the group, so I'm gonna put
the TV side records in there. You got Needy, you
got if you don't work, you don't eat, a newer one,
you know for fans, build a bear.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And then you got records.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Like ol La, Like what do those records mean to
you along your journey?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It means a lot to me because like them, the
records that keep me standing, Like them, the records that
I can go before anywhere, and they it's a big
response to the records, like no matter what wherever I go,
like them, like them songs. Right, They're gonna stand strong,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like foundation, Yeah,
that's that's definitely. That catalog is crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So when you on tour, is it that I feel like,
when you're on tour and you're figuring out, you know,
like your set lists and stuff like that, what's that
closing song for you that you're like, Oh, yeah, that's
what I'm sending them home to two million?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
But I don't really got it. I ain't really got
to close out to that though. It's just my biggest
song I could really close out to, like I'm Good
Part five and My Shoulder that I could, like, I
got shipped that two million up was the one, but
I got yeah, yeah, yeah, I got real shit for real.
Yeah I can close my song. I can close my
show out to a few different songs for real. Would
you expect that? You mean you have to do exactly
(03:38):
what it is? Man? No, but yeah, the same. Yeah.
I kind of knew how special it was because I
had set on the song for a year and I
actually had my own idea and I spent my own
money and like directed the video myself. So it was
like something about the song was special to me, you
know what I'm saying. I wrote the treatment, like I
(03:58):
made sure it was like playing out to the tea
and they came out exactly how I wrote it. So
I sat on it for a year, like pause, Like
I sat on the song just trying to like prep
up for an album. I just throwing singles out this
shit but got fire instantly, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I had realized, like listening to it a couple of
times said yo, wrapping.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Over the lyrics, other other I can get my man
in the background. Made me. They made me like take
it serious because I wasn't putting it on my album.
I just threw it out. But the song was like
getting like over one hundred thousand views a day on YouTube,
and and like as the views is growing, like guys,
(04:38):
he's like, we gotta take this song. It's a real single.
This the one right here. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Speaking of Gazi, man, you know an interview he was
he was in you said, that's like your real friend
right there, man, tell me about that relationship.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's just my boy. Man. He's just a good person. Man,
Like I'm pretty sure to hold the trick and tell
you that. You know what I'm saying, Like before anybody
really gave us a chance, like he he's seen something
in us that nobody's seen like and he took chances
on kids from the street, like and a lot of
us didn't graduate from school, Like he gave us money
(05:09):
with like no education, and like you know what I'm saying,
like investing in our future and like seeing something in
us that no other label scene. So it's like I
really can't explain it, Like when you like that type
of person, like it's beyond a label or money, Like
that's a real person, Like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
seeing something in these kids around here and investing his
(05:31):
own money into him, whether he lost or won, he
did it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That's what And you could tell them relationships real because
you like we see it in real time like with
you and then we're real like when people y'all coming
home and things like that, and he's there like to
support y'all. So having a person like that behind y'all.
Can only imagine, like what confidence that gives you when
you in the studio making that music, you know somebody
gonna be behind you pushing it too.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well, first of all, he a busy man. Yeah, Like
he's like a real owner and CEO of the company,
like and we just we just artists here. He got
Afro Nation artists all like he be all over the world.
Like ain't no telling where guys he might be at,
you know what I'm saying. So if he take time
out whatever he's doing to come pull up on you,
(06:16):
that means something anyway, Like that's that's special, that the
that the boss would come, even that he that you
mean that much to him. You know what I'm saying.
Everybody don't got that relationship with him.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I'm just a girl, But I do want to know.
Do you feel like your career elevated even more after
you did your time and came back to music, Yeah,
for sure. Was you scared when you went in? Did
you think like when I come out, Like, did you
feel like you were starting over? Because I feel like
the hype was even more when you came home.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It was like at first, at first, before I knew
how much time I was getting. In my mind, I'm like,
I feel I'm prepared to do five years and I'm like,
I'm gonna come home and be rich. I guys do
that because I had it in my mind like like
was going I didn't know exactly how much time I
was getting. But it's like when you hear federal, When
(07:04):
people think federal, they be like automatically like, oh, you
finling get a lot of time, you know. And then
I'm talking to different people and they're like, well, if
the people give you ten years, you better take it.
Hearing all this different ship and I'm like, I'm prepared
to do fire real quick. Fuck it. I just come
home with. But I already knew when I knew what
I was gonna be when I came on from jail.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So when you went there, you knew, like, I'm about
to just use the time. What was you in there
writing with?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I ain't start off writing. I ended up writing. Yeah,
I wrote a lot of music in jail, like some
of my songs, like some of my biggest ship. I
wrote a few of them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Okay, And then go ahead, when you came home this fashion,
I feel like your fashion went up, Like facts, do
you have a stylist?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, I don't got no stylist. I don't believe in stylis. Like,
I don't even take fashion tips from people unless it's
my girl, because I know she really cared about me.
I got my girl bad so I feel like if
she except addressed in the whole real shit, except.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, I love well you do got a silnist your.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Girl, and she let me do me. So it's like, yeah,
do you hear.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
A lot of people talking about your style and the
way you dressing things? Now?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, but the same people go to these stores and
ask for my office?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Right yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
People call me and asked me, bro, what shoes should
I put on? What what shirt should I wear with this?
To like I'm like a big thing getting this FASTI
and ship around.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Here, like and who's your inspiration? Like where are you
getting this from? Because you do be stepping out the box.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It's just like I rather not look like nobody. I
like that, you know what I'm saying. Like, I rather
just I don't want to look like nobody. I don't
want that ship if they wearing it, like, well, it
ain't even that like because I like, I've been wearing
ship that don't call I ain't been running them all,
just spending thousands on jackets and ship like I used
(08:55):
to do that ship, but that ain't what I'm own.
Like fashion ain't got no price on it. It's really
just comfortability. Like if you're comfortable in your shit, Like
right now, I got on the benched shirt with some
oversize like sweatpants and like, you know, some problems. I'm clean,
I'm classy. I can go to a club, or I
can go chill my kids, or I could, like you
know what I'm saying, that's what I be on. I feel,
(09:15):
but i'd be having on pieces though, like the ship
that I that I'm gonna have on, you're gonna be
able to wear in twenty years from now, you know
what I'm saying. Look at it like that. So people
be talking but they don't really know what fashion is.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They talking, but they taking out.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, now, talk to me about this social media man,
because for people who know you, they know that you
like a funny guy. But how important has social media
been to you, lady? I see you be going crazy
on the TikTok, posting funny videos and all that type
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So how important has that been for you? Lady? This
just this the time when yeah, ain't know if you
sitting back trying to act like you ain't ain't nobody
caring about that cool shit? Like people want to know
if you funny, like if you've got a good personality
and that's just me, Like I'm a funny nigga, Like
everybody know that, you know. So I just be doing
me like I'm gonna post some ship, like if somebody
say something, I'm gonna say something back, like I'm that
(10:05):
type of guy. Like I'm not no fucking robot, you
know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But I feel like when you get in this industry
with social media, it's so hard to find people that's
still authentic to themselves in that post because you know,
most niggas be like, no, I'm not about y'all. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Lost, Like I can't get lost in this fake ass
world because it's not real. Like when you put the
phone down and come outside, you got to live in
real life, you know what I'm saying again, Like you
can get caught up in this ship that's going on
these apps, but when you put that ship down, when
you close that app, like life continues. God damn be something,
(10:44):
you know what I'm saying. So I live in a
real world, Like I don't let this this ship like
control me. Like people get lost in this ship like
it ain't that serious. It's really not real for real.
They can take this ship from you so fast, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I got a couple of questions, man, when she said
she was a girl and she wanted to ask a
questions her.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You speak on your.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Girl as far as your this album is U. I
heard you say something like I feel like it's more
for women, and I heard you say that before.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What made it? What made you go that way?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Is that something you tried to do for the women or.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
My bagman to cut you off? You no, but that's
just the former little music, Like that's just the formula.
Like if you study music, then you know you gotta
have female music, you know what I'm saying. So that's
just what I'm a real artist. Like every every album
I ever had had two three girl songs on and
them be like the ones like I can go perform
my girl songs, girls at my shouls. Yeah, girls be
(11:37):
front roll and my ship, like you know what I'm saying.
So yeah, that's the thing, man, I cater to women.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I noticed too, man, that like in your interviews like
talking to us right now, like you kick you popping
with us, you know what I mean? That hold back
and you never was really like that in the beginning
stages were brought you here right now?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Why is it like that? I don't really know. Like
as I got older, I'm like just growing into who
I really am, Like I never really knew I was
like this either, Like you know what I'm saying. I'm
just I'm just growing into probably like who I who
I really am?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Like you know what I'm saying, that's that grown man.
I'm like that you elevate, you mature, you know, growing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Man, like thirty six not bro, I'm finna be forty
in four years.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You know what I'm saying, Like how to taste saying that,
I gotta be Like.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You know what I'm saying, Like it's real man, So
that like I'm eighteen though, yeah right right right, you
still have the energy of that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So with that being said, you know, the album's cast
still ghetto. How long we're gonna be ghetto?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
If we grow it like what we're doing, I'm gonna
always be ghetto, okay, you know because I know how
to turn it on and off. Okay, I know how
to be ghetto when I need to be. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. But they don't mean I ain't corporate,
you know, what I'm saying, like still ghetto, just mean,
like I still walk around right here, not done right,
Like I don't give a fuck about matching, Like, but
(12:55):
I still go to a business meeting to handle it
the corporate way and get the deal done. Still be me.
It's just all that shit mean like you might catch
me like I don't care about learning this. You know
what I'm saying. This shit don't mean nothing to me.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
When I bumped into you last week, I was really
surprised to see you outside of the floods. I was
leaving out of floods and Peez.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Was out there. I'm like, you gonna see me?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But I like that, you know what I'm saying, because
you get some people that come from the city and
once they make it, they like, but then it's also
a thin line, like how do you make that? You
know what I'm saying, because I feel like, once you
make so much money, we know where we're from, we
know how it is out here. How do you make
that determination or where you can still slide and where
you can't? Gotta have it right to You're like, that's
(13:33):
why I'm still goett out.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I just gotta be like, you know, like everybody. I
ain't no chump or nothing like, right, I got a
serious team, like you know what I'm saying. Like for
the most part, people really love and respect me though,
because I show love and respect, you know what I'm saying,
Like when you see me, I'm a real person. I
got real energy. I'm not no fake guy. Like I'm
not gonna not take no picture with you. If you
(13:56):
shake my hand, We're gonna shake hands like malk you
in your We're gonna he did have a gonna play
with me like you're gonna see. You're gonna see me
moving around. You might see My team might be spread
it all out. They were, you know what I'm saying.
Not I might be alone, but I'm not alone, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I know it is there uh Detroit artists out here
that you haven't worked with that you would you know,
is it anybody that you like? I would like to
do something with them.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I want to see some singers come up.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It needs to be something.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I want to work with some good singers from here,
Like I want to make some real music, Like we
gotta get on these radio, like we got a chart
like you the money not streaming like the money on
the radio. The money is when you can go pack
these arenas out and pack these shows out. Like I
need some singers. We need to work with some singers,
like it ain't no more kids, like we're the kids,
(14:51):
like right, so different, it ain't like painted the wrap,
like the kids can't even have fun, Like it ain't
even it ain't hot. It used to be when a
little bile while and little Romeo and you know what
I'm saying, Like we used to be able to come
home from school, turn on BT and have something. Right,
(15:12):
that's the type of ship. Take my time and be
and beal with that type of artist, like, yeah, I
ain't with all this right ship, you know what I'm saying.
Like if somebody got their man made up on being
as gangstay as they want to be, go ahead, I'm
not on that. Like I'm working with somebody who trying
to excel and be something like I'm the type of
artist I'm working with. I want to work with singers
(15:34):
who passionate about this ship, who can write, man working
with writers. I want to work with some kids and
some choirs, And you know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Saying, Let's see if I write ay By, Now I
can tell what mine state you into for this album, bro,
because the elevation of it, you know, production wise, even
you know, the elevation of the bars and the people
that you got a chance to work with on this project.
Speaking of moving around, how were you able to curate
this album and get some of these like big name
people on this project, you know, French Montana, two Chain,
(16:04):
you know, big shine, people like that, just to name of.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You shit, just relationships over money, like just being real,
you know what I'm saying, Just just first of all,
they fans of my music, like you know, you gotta
have good music too, though you niggas ain't just working
with you if you act. But I always I'm the
type of nigga who always tell somebody like, if you
need me, let me know, because I ain't never asking
(16:27):
nobody for shit, you know. So me just being that
type of person, just keeping my head down, working, working, working, working, working.
I guess when it was just time for me to
call my favorites in just like let's go right there.
You know what I'm saying. Do we already fucking with
you anyway? You know what I'm saying. Niggas like Ross
too Chain, French Montana, Big Sean you Herbo like it's
(16:47):
only a car, it's a phone call. That shit get done,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
And everything matching too, man, from the music to the
visuals and visuals been coming out glass.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's important. That like, that's an important part of it
because you can't just you can't be talking on this
level when your videos ain't looking like how you. I
don't think people know how important it is to have
everything lined up the right way, Like it's a look
that go with all this shit. Everything gotta look like
how you talking, you know what I'm saying. Even if
(17:17):
you're talking some old, some ghetto shit, you gotta be
on your ghetto shit right Yeah. But if you're talking
classy and you talking like a boss, you gotta be
looking like that. You gotta be moving like if people
want to see that shit.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
It's important now that you've made it. What advice would
you have to somebody from saying you there? You know,
people be like, no, no, you making it?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
You?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I mean you are at you making it though you're
an artist. I feel like if I go anywhere and
I say, Pezy, ain't know exactly what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
About what's making it though.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Fame making it I would say, is fame, I would
say money.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
In this industry.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean, I just feel like once you can walk
in room, people know who you are, people know your music.
I mean, it may not be the whole recipe, but
you you in the room, you there most what if
I can't move my mama little? That's true too. Making
it to everybody is different. It could be you know
(18:14):
that you got forced?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Did I make it? Or am I just famous?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
That's a good question. If you can't, have you made it?
If you But it depends on what success looks like
to you. I don't think success is just fained.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
If you can't provide for the most important people in
your life and you just famous, did you make It's.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
When I'm asking, mmm, that's a hard one. That's part
of it. But I think as long as it's to come, yes,
all right, I mean to each his own, because that's
also like saying if you ain't putting nobody else, ow
you know? Are you a boss?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Right? Saying I ain't make it? But I ain't saying
I made it either, Though.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I can appreciate that. I like that. I like that
I mean he's working. Yeah, you there, though, look like
I got more stuff to do.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I understand that. I'm appreciative of that, But it's like
making it. We got to start. We ain't we be
thinking people made it. That that ain't made it right
that a lot of people ain't made it who we
think made it.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I'm typically on stage introducing before you come out, and
when I say Pasy, I'm like, this made it. They
love him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's like you got the love of the people. But
to really make it, that's a real accomplishment to.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So what is making it to you?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
To me? Making it? Yeah, when your family is like cool, happy,
like in real happiness of financial freedom, like being able
to do whatever you want to do. It ain't no
dollartle mon on it. Like you know what I'm saying,
just living free, that's making it to me.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I want to be your cousins like my cousin.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Right. I got one more question, man, because we're twenty
minutes as a week. So are you saying how much
important radio is now? You're saying like you're like, yo, man,
we got to get to The streams are cool, but
the radio is really where it's at the two million up?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Help you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Did it take you there? I've been I've been feelt
like that before that. Okay, that's just the record that
just went radio. I've been feeling like that. I really
made me feel like that. Okay, but yeah, the radio
is the thing, the only thing that ain't going nowhere
for real? You change your dying man, look like you are?
You slimming up around here? What's happening? Yeah? I don't
(20:34):
really eat nothing for real. I really don't though. I
really I can say I don't eat this and net,
but I really don't eat nothing. My manager tell you,
I really don't eat nothing for real. I was just
telling him, like, you know, and he'd be like, bro,
stop telling me that, because I was just telling him
in the car. I'm like, bro, you know, like humans
eat like a credit card, work for plastic every week
(20:54):
through my really yeah, like a credit card, sass piece
of plastic. Get human consume?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Like do you eat like pork and beef and all
of that.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Don't eat no meat, no meat at all, not for real?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Hungry over your dog
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