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October 16, 2025 15 mins

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On this episode of Off the Gravel Road, host Malachi Reed sits down with Stephen Gousie and Jerry Cross from the Spirit of Adventure Council to explore one of Scouting’s most powerful traditions — Wood Badge.

More than just a training course, Wood Badge is a deep dive into teamwork, communication, and servant leadership — lessons that reach far beyond Scouting. Stephen and Jerry share stories from their own experiences as participants and staff, the humor and challenges of leading adults through “learning by doing,” and how the course continues to evolve for modern leaders.

Whether you’re a longtime Scouter or just curious how leadership can grow from the campfire to the community, this conversation will remind you why the best leaders never stop learning.

🎧 Off the Gravel Road — where lessons learned outdoors help us lead better everywhere else.

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