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October 22, 2025 43 mins

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When troubleshooting, leadership, and life all come down to one thing — asking better questions.

In this episode of Off the Gravel Road, Robb Ellis sits down with Jeff Groth, President of Ambient Temperature Corporation, to talk about the mindset shift from judger to learner — inspired by Marilee Adams’ book Change Your Questions, Change Your Life.

Jeff shares lessons from his journey with Trane, his new role leading a long-time FIA customer, and how private equity, sustainability, and curiosity intersect in today’s mechanical contracting world.

Together, they explore what it means to lead with curiosity, how the phrase “Be curious, not judgmental” (which actually originated from a 1986 advice column, not Walt Whitman) applies to the trades, and why teaching kids to ask questions — and advocate for themselves — is at the heart of Off the Gravel Road.

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