14. Infernal departed?

Infernal Affairs vs The Departed

Episode Transcript

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don't have to. Let's get into it.
Let's get into it. So a few changes.
We have officially gotten out ofthe truck, which is in itself.
If anybody drives a truck knows emptying out one truck, whether
it's to the house or into another truck, is a nightmare in

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itself. Pain in the ass.
And then you find shit that you forgot you had in there and you
go, oh, here it is. That's where it went to.
Yeah. I didn't have to buy a second.
One, a lot of times it's like, you know, between the wall and
the and the bed or the refrigerator in the bed.
Those are the places that are like the catch all doors of the
house. Yeah, pretty much, yeah.

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Because that's where everything like disappears.
Between the bed and the wall. Yeah, yeah.
Or under the rug that you put inthere.
So we are moving locations we actually will have of a studio
of sorts. We'll be able to set it up and

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use it without having to go in and out like we've been doing.
I'm hoping everything is for thebetter.
We're really not 1000% happy with where we're moving.
But I mean, you got to do what you got to do.
Yeah, it's it's closer to closerto family and grandbaby that's

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the most. Important.
Yeah. And your mom?
Yeah, Yeah. And the majority of our
customers that complain we live too far.
Yes. So the tattoos.
Want the tattoo? Come see me who lived.
We have the way I've already posted on Facebook that we are
moving back and we already have people like fighting at a bit.

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So if your stuff doesn't come through, because heads up guys,
we're going back to the prison and this time if anybody asks us
to do more than our job, the proper response is that's not my
job. Right.

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I mean, you, you pay me to do a specific job, Yes.
And you want me to do more than my specific job?
Yeah, that's going to be a no gothen.
You need to pay me more right For that extra work.
Yeah, and overtime doesn't countbecause I'm doing overtime on my
job. Right, exactly.
So yeah. Yeah, I don't think they're
going to like. That no, and I'm OK with that.

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I'm good with that. I mean, I, I kind of ticked them
off when I left. Then it took two weeks for a lot
of them to notice because, well,in two weeks a lot of shit goes
sideways. See, now I can go back saying I
met my wife in prison. And we've been saying that just
to get the eye rolls and go, Oh my gosh.
And and the whole, you know, oh,that's just so taboo.

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No, he was. Not an inmate because when I say
it, they look at me like, oh, you've been to prison.
And then they look at you like Icould see she would date a
inmate. Yeah.
Like no people, we both work there, which is.
Kind of funny because nobody, the majority of people don't
even like look at me like I was the inmate.
What if I was the inmate? Right.

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Like damn you don't think that happens?
I've worked in a female facility.
Like you don't think that happens?
Women know how to be conniving as fuck.
Yes they do. Like damn I.
Found that off the county jail, yes.
Geez. Work you eight ways from
something. There were some men.
In some ways, yeah. It goes from.

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Because, well, and I, and This is why because a lot of them
will not prey on, on the female officers, they'll prey upon the
men. Because most men all you got to
do is talk about one specific body part that you really want
and they you have all their attention.

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They can stroke that ego with one finger.
Yes. Yes.
At A at a male prison the guys have to work extra hard because
most of the women go in there like Nah.
That's why they go after the easy ones that are have no self
esteem and a pile of debt and feel like they're nothing.

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I still felt like I was nothing.I just knew I was going to crush
some ethos. Which brings me to I will be
able to exercise my sarcasm more, which is I'm looking very,
very, very forward to it becausethat's, that's something I don't
get to do when I'm driving a truck unless I'm talking to

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myself. Right.
So and a lot of people out in inthe wild don't like it.
They don't understand sarcasm. Yeah, and they can't understand
or understand, I won't say that.They can't hear the sarcasm over
the battle of the use legislative in midday traffic.
No, well, I'm talking about likewhen we go into Target.
Oh, well, yeah. And somebody asked me a dumb ass

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question and I give them a dumb ass answer and they just look at
you like, why are you so radio think they're bougie.
We went to. We went to.
College start Belt went to college so we work at RJ.
OK, that's the bougie Walmart. That's worth it.
Exactly. That's all it is.

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You want to spend $2.00 more on the same thing and go to
Walmart? Yeah, literally.
Or double the price that you canget at Walmart, right?
My soap, I say this to everyone.The soap that I buy.
I love the soap. I don't care for the endorsement
of the guy behind it, but not that he's a bad guy anyway.
I buy my soap and it's like 1099a bar.

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It is really good soap. Oh my God, When I go to Walmart,
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I call it same box, same exact thing, same size, same oz,
whatever you want to call it. Same thing for 699.
Yeah. Which is still ridiculous for

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one bar soap, but there's some good soap.
We'll pay money. Yes.
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Don't get me wrong, Dove's good iron strings, OK, you know, I
got it. But this, this is SOAP.
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I'll stick to my desk if. You're curious as to what kind
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Yeah, we don't do endorsements. No, we we don't.
Yeah. Anyway, so this one was let me
find the name in OK, so this actual the the original and the
remake have two different names is the first one we've gotten to

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I believe that has that happenedto it?
So the original is called Infernal Affairs and it came out
in 2002. OK, which you would think it's
it's a little older, but it's not 2002.
I personally cannot stand, and Iknow I've said this before, I

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cannot stand watching a movie and having nothing but subtitles
because it's in a completely different language.
Yeah. This one I can sit through
without like clawing the walls because it's actually a good
move. It was bearable.
It's like even though they speakand I always make fun of this,
like the old or the original Godzilla movies or TV shows or

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whatever, their lips are still moving and all you hear is OK
and some generic American voice.Well, this one, they didn't do
that. But this one, you're right, it's
like it was more. They use, they use their
original language, the Chinese, Japanese, whatever the hell it
is. Yeah, the Oriental dialect they

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use, right, You can hear that they they leave all that in.
It's like they took a a a where did wherever it was.
It wasn't Japan. It wasn't Hong Kong.
That's what I thought it was. Yeah.
So they they left the Japanese in there.

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They left their dialect, their language, all that.
So if somebody's from there, they can actually watch that and
just look at the subtitles and go, what the hell is that?
Right. For us that don't speak that
they put the subtitles in there to explain which not everything,
which is kind of funny, not everything translates.
So you have some chopped up English in there.

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Yeah, but. And it wasn't like you had three
paragraphs to read. No, they kept.
A10 second scene. Yeah, well, what the hell did I?
Just said yeah, that kept it pretty simple.
I mean, it was actually a good movie it it.
It really was, yeah. But here's here's the really
weird thing. That one took place in 2002.
And then you have The Departed, which took place in America in

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2006. So these are only four years
apart, right? Yeah.
Not 20, not 30, but just four years, just four years which The
Departed has all the fantastic actors that we know in it.
I'll go over that here in a second.
Yeah, I got it. I figured I love them.

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Well, Leonardo DiCaprio is not one of my favorite, but he does
a really good job in this one. He can act.
He really can't act. Yeah, this really put him to
the. Test.
It really did. Yeah, because he's he's playing
somebody who's playing somebody else, yes, so.
He broke the 3rd wall. Of acting.

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I mean, he was an Inception too,which that's a whole nother
another animal himself. But Infertile Affairs was
surprisingly very, very good, despite all the reading we had
to do. Yeah, even with the subtitles.
I mean, you could just watch it and you can see.
I've watched foreign films before.

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I know you have to. And you just see them acting.
And it's just like, it's just that it's acting.
I've seen better acting at high school musicals.
Yeah. It's like, are you kidding me
here? But these people could actually
act, and they betrayed it. And you've seen emotion in their
face and their body language. And just to see how everything
went along. I mean, it was actually a really

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good movie. Yeah.
I really enjoyed that movie. Yeah.
This these are these are one of the movies on those rare
occasions where I wouldn't mind watching it.
Again, Yeah, I I could watch it again, both of them.
I could, I could definitely watch them again.
But as a recap, you're going to recap it or yeah.
Yeah, let me go. So, all right, the original from

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2002 kind of has an edgy tone, right?
And it it's it is a very sleek Hong Kong thriller, but at that
time redefined the Asian crime center.
They they didn't really mention the accusa, but I'm pretty sure
they were somewhere in there. That or the triad.

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Yeah, but it's like American cinema, like they're trying to
reference a mafia without sayingthe Italian or Sicilian or the
Irish shirt, you know, it's justthe Mafia and and the infernal
affairs. It was just the crime.
Family, yeah. Which is, you know, about,
right? And then you've got the remake

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and it is truly a Boston fuel Boston.
We'll get in your car. OK That dropped a shit load of F
offs like. A shit load that's like, not a
children's movie. And you can definitely tell
still by Martin Scorsese becausejust the way they did the
suspense, the drama, the trauma,I do mean the trauma breaking

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the news, cast off cool. Yeah.
I mean, and then the blood and guts and all that good stuff.
I mean, you can definitely tell the difference.
Let's see. Infernal Affairs 2002 is
considered a psychological thriller from Hong Kong.
And it's not just psychological because you're trying to
remember who everybody is, because, as almost every single

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American says, they all look alike.
And they don't. Not really.
Not I'd say about. After a few minutes I could
actually start telling everybodyapart.
Who was doing what? Yeah, yeah.
It takes you a minute, but yeah.And see, in both male, in both
movies, this pretty much it's a movie about a mole who's not

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only in the Police Department, but they put an undercover cop
in with the mop. This is in both films, which is
actually pretty good. And it's a cast cat and mouse
kind of game, because one's always trying to catch the other
and the other one's always trying to catch, yeah.
You've got a mole for the mafia,and then you have a mole for the
cops. And they're both in reverse

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roles. Yeah, the mafia mole is a
police. Yes.
And the policeman? Is the undercover.
Is the undercover cop still working for police?
But he never graduated? Air coach never graduated the
company. Because they don't ever want
their undercover cops to, actually.
Be. Yeah.

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Have a paper trail? Have identity.
Yeah, so, which I mean, there was so many eerie similarities
between the two movies. Oh yeah.
I mean they. They used it.
Wasn't every single scene but. Yeah, you could tell that they
took the script and said, OK, sothis is these are the bones that

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we're going to use. Yeah.
And then we're going to fill it in with our own shit and
somebody. Somewhere should say I want to
use the finger tap even though he didn't do Morse code in the
second movie, but he was still tapping his finger like headed
over to twitch. Yeah.
They both still had their cast throat.
Yeah, both of the undercover or the the moles for the mafia who

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were police officers were both so-called good looking
intelligent. Yeah.
Looking to rise in the ranks. I mean, they kept that part
pretty much there, including with the meetings with the
handler of the the undercover and how everybody died.

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I mean, that was pretty much both movies and they did a damn
good job. The main bad guys still had the
air of I'm too good to be caught, Yeah.
And I mean, and, and just subtledifferences between the two
films. Obviously one's Asian, one's
American. You can tell that we put a
little more cinematic player in it.
But they're, again, they're bothreally good movies.

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Oh yeah. Oh my God, So Infernal Affairs,
like I said, is a sleek kind of restrained.
There's constant tension even when he's at the the shrink.
Well, that's, that's, that's actually one of the really big

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differences, because in InfernalAffairs, whenever he went to the
shrink, he took a nap. Yeah.
You see him taking a nap and he's talking about taking a nap
every single time. That's the only reason he goes
on paper. Yeah, because he has to be
there. He has to be there.
And the departed and the departed, he actually opens up a

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little bit. And in in Infernal Affairs, he
the undercover meets up with hisex-girlfriend or whatever.
Yeah, and she talked about a kidthat she has in the departed he
hooks up with his dag on. With his therapist.

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With his therapist who's in a relationship with the other
mole, right? You talk about love triangle
gone wrong by the end. Like down.
I mean, there's badge bunnies and there's badge bunnies.
Down. So the Departed is is kind of
loud, it's kind of gritty, chaotic.

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And the soundtrack is there. I mean, it's some nostalgia, but
it's very fast-paced, very angrymonologue.
And the and there's violence, like there is some true
violence. Oh yeah, like true violence.
I mean, violence, both of them, but as usual, us Americans have

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to go overboard. And you know, the Departed was
extremely overboard. Well, I mean, if if you were to
compare the 2 movies, like if you was at the bar and you would
compare one drinking style to somebody else's drinking style,
let's say you're going to have to compare these movies.
There's only one drinking style,so it goes down your throat.

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That's it. Infernal affairs.
Nevermind Infernal Affairs. It's like sipping an aged
whiskey. You savor, you enjoy it, you
watch it, you. You just.
You enjoy it, drink it as possible.
Versus the Departed is like slamming shots of Jemison in a

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Boston dive bar. That's Nancy.
That that is the difference between the two.
I mean, if it was a drinking game, that would be it.
Yeah. We'll get in the car, give me
another shot of James that did not.
Sound like you were down his shot anyway.

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Oh Lord, let's not go down that road.
So let's see Internal Affairs Tommy or excuse me, Tony Long
and Andy Lau are the 2 main characters in Infernal Affairs.

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Lynn's character especially walks the fine line between duty
and identity law. He is the undercover agent and
he does, he does a really good job of.
That he does. And the Depart and the departed.
DiCaprio brings out raw nerves and you can you, He plays this
part so well. You you do feel the anxiety he
has building up his body. I mean, he even puts it on his

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face. Yes, and Matt Damon is the mole
for the mafia, for the mob who is still in the Police
Department. He is the informant to the mob.
Yeah. And he does.
He plays everything off. So slick, so slippery.
And I have to say that they did the same thing in Infernal

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Affairs too. Like that dude just like played
it off and. He was, Oh yeah.
But he. Wasn't as slick as Damon.
Wasn't as game is like playing 15 different angles and he's
keeping track of all 15 and at the end he's trying to pull them
all in on top of himself. Right.
It was then you have Jack Nicholson.
Who is one of my favorite? And then this movie, if you

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really think about it, you really think about if you really
watch it again, he is the Joker just.
He will always be the Joker. OK, but I don't care who else
plays it, he will always be the Joker.
But what I'm saying is in this movie, his style, the way he
acted in this movie, The way he he portrayed himself in this

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movie. He does it really well.
It was still the Joker. He he plays the bad guy really,
really well. Just about.
To make up. Yeah.
And Oh my God. And then you later find out he
is informant for the FBI. Yeah.
Turning in his lower level guys,he was doing all the dirt
because he never really got his hands dirt.
Yeah. Oh, that bastard.

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Of course, you got Mark Wahlberg, Alec Baldwin.
And every time they're in the scene, like they are just on it.
They are in it to win it. And they are just, they steal
the show. That's why they don't have too
many things with them in it. Let's see, what else?
So, yeah. So Infernal Affairs, it focuses

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more on fate, duality, and because of that culture,
Buddhism. Yeah, but what would Buddhist
do? And how can you live in this
way? And the Ying and Yang flow of
everything versus the part, it is heavily into corruption and
masculinity. I'm macho and everything's got

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to be thrown into chaos. It does.
I mean, because it is Boston, itdoes throw religion in there.
A little bit, but it's more to show how corrupt yeah, and how
people used it as a cover. So I between the religion

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identity crisis and the Americandream of somebody getting
promoted bigger, better, going to the Senate or State House,
just throw that shit in a blender and mix it up.
That's that's pretty much what this movie was.
You had it all. I also found out Infernal
Affairs had multiple versions depending on the region, so if

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it was done in Cantonese or donein any other Asian provinces to
put it that way, I'm sure there's different.
Well, when I was looking up internal affairs, there's
actually a number 2 and #3. Oh, OK.
With those or the I'm guessing the same actors that survived

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first. Right.
Versus the departed, there's just the departed, yeah.
And that's another major difference.
The part is every bad guy ends up dead.
Every. Every single one of.
Them, and then the part of it that was just the one movie it's
been subtitled to have been voiced over many different

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languages, but it's still the same.
Yeah. Nothing's changed.
Oh, let's see. What else do we have here?
So Internal affairs revitalized Hong Kong cinema back in the
day, influenced a wave of crime thrillers.
Lubly, something like the other one.

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What's it called? Pi?
Somebody will correct me. I'm sure it's called Pi or I.
I have IP. The Life of Pi, because life.
Is that what you're calling? No, No.
It's just. It's just called Pi and it
follows a a cop who's like on the the SWAT.
Team oh Pi. And he got and he's like just a

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general badass. That was a Hong Kong movie.
IP Man is another one of those movies.
It got really original with thatone.
They they did. I said, oh, let's just change a
little bit. I add an add an add an upward.
IP Wow. After beer, anyways.

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You know I did. I did think about this and as
many times as I roll my eyes, myface should look like the Hulk.
OK the my eye muscles I shouldn't even need glasses, but
this seems to be going in the other direction for me.

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Oh Lord, it's never boring, I promise you.
So I don't know. In conclusion, if you want a if
you want a tight storyteering, telling velocity in depth and
cool precision with some there again, I noticed they had a
really nice skyline. GTR my gearhead, you know what

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that is. Then you need to watch the
Infernal Affairs if you want a gritty chaos, big performances
in Boston, accents so thick thatwe may need subtitles, and it is
the department my laptop. I mean.

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I'm telling you, I every when I watched the department, I first
seen my man up there, Wahlberg. I swear to God I was waiting on
Ted to come wobble through the door and.
He switched up, like went from you're apos to I'm your best
friend. Yeah, so damn quick.

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So damn quick. And the ending for that one was
amazing. That was a twist I was not
looking at. Matt Damon had everything,
pulled it up. Everything was like nice type.
Oh, everybody was getting ribbons and awards, and this one
did their best job. And that one did it like, and he
is the shit. Opens up the door and there's
Wahlberg. Like in a full Tyvek suit.

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He's making sure none of his DNAis left behind.
All right, gloves the. Only thing he left behind was a
rat on the windowsill. Exactly because he killed the
rat. Yeah.
That was like. He he figured that one out that.
Was like the how? He figured it out like I I was
going back to like trying to figure out how and what scene,

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but I don't know I. Think him and the captain who
was the handler of the undercover.
I think he knew a lot more than the captain thought he did.
Yeah. As far as Slomer, so I think
once he found out that Homeboy had been killed, it like it
really, oh, everybody died in this elevator except for you.

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Yeah. Something's not right.
Here possibly anyway. Both great moves.
Very. I'd watch them both.
I mean, whether they come on or not or I'm just in the mood to
do something just just different.
Yeah, I would definitely watch both movies.
That's up to you guys to figure out which ones you like because

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we like them both. I mean, just because I don't
like reading a movie, I'll read a book.
Don't give me a movie to read. I probably wouldn't watch the
first one as often. Yeah.
Could you still? I'd still watch it, Yeah, that's
all. Or at least listen to it because
you already, I mean, I've already seen it.
I know what's going on. So hey man, if you guys have any

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comments, questions always say concerns but.
We're always concerned. We always are.
If you have concerns that has nothing to do with us, I mean,
but the podcast because I don't care about your concerns with
political or geopolitical or. We want a new one there.
Just thinking about mental health, we always concerned,

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especially about you. Oh, we got to have mental first
in order to have the health. Well, I'm, I mean, I, I at least
have one brain cell. Yeah, with 40. 7 personal you,
but hey. Brain Cell 47 Personality.
It's a big brain cell. It's like being married to a
brand new woman every day. Yeah, I'm not sure which one I'm

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getting. Like a bag of Skittles.
This bag of Skittles wake up so it takes the rainbow bitch in
it, you know? Hey, I'll let you sleep a few
extra hours, OK? Just so I don't have to listen
to you. She did.
She is so off. And I'd make you breakfast.
She did. She made.
The best breakfast. You might as well enjoy it now
because when I start back at theprison you're only getting it on

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my days off. I'm good with that.
OK. Talking about food, right?
Yeah. Oh, OK, yeah.
Really just have to go there. All right, guys.
Keep your ears open. Stay tuned.
OK, as usual, comment, like, share, follow, all that

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Between packing up and everything we got to do for our
new job coming up, trying to work it in there.

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Trying to work it in there, Brian.
It's a full time job. Yeah.
So yeah, I'll stay safe. Hey, happy 4th.
It's going to be late, but happy.
Fourth. Yeah, well, this this will come
out Monday. It'll be after 4th but hey, like
I said. Happy late 4th.
That that firecracker doesn't gothere.

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OK, if you think it's a good idea, it does not go there.
I don't know where what you werethinking, but it does not go
there. So you know that that's what
that's me telling you to be safe.
It does not go there. Hey look, we know it's going to
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Just don't do it. Just don't do it.