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Welcome to the Ogs and their Remakes, the podcast where we
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Hello guys, this is DJ. Am I?
I'm Aaron. And welcome to OGS and their
remakes. So this is episode 4. 4-5 I'm.
Pretty sure it's 4I. Think it's 5.
Think right #5I. Think you're wrong?
I think I don't know. However, this was a fun one.
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This is This is The Jungle Book.Yeah, and I did not realize that
the cartoon, the animated came out in 1967. 1967 That was a
great year. Before our birth.
I don't know what was going on there, but that that was a great
year. So my favorite part of this was
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all the music when I was younger.
Oh yeah, the music, the dancing,yeah.
I mean, that was like the most memorable parts.
Memorable, Memorable. That's a funny word.
Memorable parts was the dancing and the singing.
But then again, a lot of the movies, a lot of the cartoons
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that came out around about this time from Disney, I don't want
to say that was her base, but that's pretty much how most of
their cartoons came out. Robin Hood, same way.
There was a lot of singing and that's which was awesome for
kids. You know, cartoon.
That was amazing. But yeah, 1967, this was, this
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was the era where everybody wentthere and they actually hand
drawn each character page by page by page by page by page.
Took some major talent. But I also know I did some
research. I also know that Disney used to
use glass plates, painted glass plates to do all the Batgirl
scene in the foreground scene. So like there's one point you'll
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see Cher Connie wandering through the grass and you can
tell that it was a pane of glassinstead of an actual hand drawn
cartoon with all the yeah, or like the background with the
buzzards. I mean, that's pretty much a
whole painting that somebody didin production and they would
just animate the characters in front of that that painting.
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That's awesome. Just little thing.
I mean, this is back before computers really took over for
everything. I'll be friends that before
computers took over everything. So when somebody actually got
paid to sit down and do what I love to do, which is draw, this
is what they did. But The Jungle Book, so the
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original 67, let's get into it. At the beginning of this movie
you you realize Bagera, which isthe Black Panther, finds a baby
in the middle of the jungle crying and takes it to a back of
wolves. Awesome.
When you watch the newer version, the one that came out
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in that year, that I'm not remembering 2016.
But this is episode 5. I think I told you that already,
right? Sure.
Episode 5 absolutely, because because she was wrong.
Not me. She was wrong.
So in 2016 when they did that movie, when they did the the
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live action of Jungle Book, you come in to where he's already
about 10 years old according to the story, and he's already
running to the jungle with the Wolf Colts, Cubs.
So that's the first difference that I noticed.
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Well, in the 67 one, when he takes the baby to the pack, the
Wolf Pack, what I really noticedand of course, when you're
younger and you watch this, you,you don't think about it.
But what I noticed, and I can't,I really like instead of saying
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he found a baby, they call it a man cub.
Yeah, because in the animal Kingdom, they're Cubs.
Yeah, yeah. So that I I do like that and
there is a lady go space. Thank God it wasn't a cat.
A pride of cats. We've got a hairless cat for you
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have a hairless kitten. But I did there again, did some
more research. I watched the credits.
If you ever watched the credits to to find out who voiced what
character, unless you're into older music like I am or some of
the old black and white movies, which I mean, I'm no movie,
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stop. I've seen a few.
That's like, OK, I know who these people are.
But like, I think I've told you this, Louis Prima, he was a big,
big trumpet person back in the the 40s, fifties and 60s had a
lot of hits on the the oldie channel.
If you have SiriusXM Tuna Tuna channel 70, I think it is, it
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plays some of the older stuff. Channel 50, it plays some more
of the older stuff, but he played Louis Prima played King
Louie in the 1967 version as theape, the gorilla, orangutan,
whatever you want to call him. He played King Louie and I knew
the voice as soon as I heard him.
And listening to his his little musical rant, I'm like, I know
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who that is. And I had to watch the credits,
make sure I was right because that's my wife.
I have been known to be wrong. Just say, but there's all kinds
of people in here that when you hear their voices, you know it
because you've seen it in other Disney films or you've heard it
on there Again, if you listen toold music like I do, you've
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heard these voices before and itwas just, it's crazy.
And then the 2016 movies, just the same way you got Iris Elba.
And then you have thought I had a whole list of people that went
on and on about. But you know who these people
are? You hear their voices.
Like I know that person, but maytake you men to remember what
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their real name is. But you know that person.
The 67 version, like I said, I love the music.
I love the whole theme of it andthe fact that you've got this
little kid running around tryingto get away from a Bengal tiger
and then goes to beat the littleshit out of it with a stick
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saying I'm not afraid of you. Yeah.
I mean, you know, that's let's face that kids, a little badass.
I mean it does help when you gota blue hanging onto the tail and
slowing down. Or you just stupid just sucking.
Come here, you little fluffer ball of teeth.
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I'm gonna beat the shit out yournose.
Yeah, I never thought about it until now, but the the Buzzards,
it's like the Three Stooges. Yeah.
And when I first watched it there again, now that I'm closer
to 50, that I have 40, now that I watch it again, at first I
thought it was The Beatles because you got the four
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buzzards. There's four distinct different
voices and I swear to God it sound like Paul, Ringo and John
and. Yeah.
The other guy, but I swear to God, was The Beatles.
Watch the Curtis is one guy thatdoes all four voices.
That's pretty amazing considering he nailed 4
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different English accents from 4different sides of the UK.
Here's a Here's a question. How do you tie a Tiger's knot?
Tail and a knot? Very carefully.
Only in the cartoon. Very carefully.
But also, I mean, also, I mean, back in that time, especially
when I was growing up, I don't know if your mother ever said
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this to you, but I've had my momtell me a couple of times I'm
going to jerk a knot in your ass.
Yeah. And I think that's pretty much
what they were talking about. That was, you know, I'm going to
put a knot in your ass. That way you can't get away when
I go to beat you with the belt. Yeah.
That you were wearing. But yeah, I mean, Shere Khan
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constantly looking after this kid, trying to get him blue.
I love blue, especially a cartoon version because he's
just got that voice. I don't remember who did his
voice over but he just got that voice of just calming is he
Almost reminds me of the Duke. Yeah.
Oh, John Wayne does, who he almost reminds me of, but it's
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not him. Yeah, but you also realize that
in this movie, when the movie first starts out, you can tell
it takes place in India. For the original cartoon
version, first starts out, you can tell it takes place in
India. And the 2016 version, you don't
know. Where the hell is that?
You're just in a jungle. A jungle where we don't know,
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but he's in the gym. That's when he started his
adventure. He didn't have a map and Agps
didn't work. By God, he went from a trip to
an adventure. I ain't lost.
I'm just wondering throughout the jungle.
And he can talk to animals. That's the great thing, He can
talk to animals. Yeah, and in the cartoon, if I
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remember right, in the cartoon, the 1967, everything's in
English. Everything.
Just, you know, animals talking like everybody else.
And I'm sure throughout the countries that got spread around
and probably all been dumped over.
And yeah, translated, yeah. But in the I think in the 2016,
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he actually like makes animal noises to show that he's talking
to the animals. Right, because he doesn't.
He can't communicate with every animal because they may not have
a language. But he did say that talking to
one of the little meerkats, that's what it was, a meerkat or
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lemur. No, it wasn't lemur.
But everybody knows the story. They find the baby.
They take it to the the Wolf Pack.
Says give up the wolf cub. No, no, I'm not at first.
Not the car at first. When the kid gets to a certain
age, the wolves have a little meeting.
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Sheer Khan has come to their area of the jungle and they're
needing to get the kid out of there because he kills.
He wants to kill the boy becausehe doesn't want him to grow up
to be a man who hunts. Pimps.
So in order to get him out of there, Bagheera offers to take
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him on a walk, and he doesn't tell him this is what's going on
until they've already walked quite a ways.
We're going back to the manned camp.
Yeah, and then the boy runs awayfrom him because, well.
People say the juggle. Wants to stay.
He doesn't want to go anywhere. And then that's when he runs
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into Blue, who Can't Sing to stop eating and singing.
But they are they they turn to really good friends.
Yeah, he does look out for it. Yeah.
And then they're towards the end, they realize that he needs
to go to the man village, the man tribe, the man and whatever.
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And of course, it does help whenhe sees a woman.
Or a girl. Oh yeah, sees a little girl come
down there, get water and her little vase.
That always helps having a girl there.
Aha, people, I didn't say vase, I said a vase.
The cute little brown eyed girl at the river getting water and
he runs down there because now he's curious because there's
somebody who looks like him, a little different, but hairless
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like him, like oh, who's that? She's got a pretty cool and next
thing you know, he's thinking with the wrong head because
towards the end he's holding a little plot going.
Should I help her? Should I not help her?
And then they're like no come back.
Blue Impaguer is like, no, come back.
We don't want you to turn into aman.
And he just kind of smiles. I'm like, hey, yeah, dude, I
want to hit that. I mean, I'm going to smash this
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pot with water. That's when we almost smash it.
And he walks away, and that's the end of the story.
Now, the 2016 version, it is essentially the same story.
There's not a whole lot of. I mean, there's almost no
variation in the story as far asthe actual plot, the writing,
the screenplay, the whole 9 yards.
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Yeah, The only true difference is, like I said in the very
beginning, you know, he was a baby in the cartoon here, he's
already about the age of 10, andhe's already running through the
jungle with everybody. And I almost skipped this part,
But at the very end of the cartoon, like I said, they take
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him to the man village and he meets the girl, and he walks off
out of the jungle and says he's just going to stay there.
Not in the 2016 version. He does not find a girl.
He does not find a village. He stays in the jungle with
animals. Yeah.
Which is pretty awesome. I mean it, it leaves it open to,
you know, maybe doing a Jungle Book, too, which they may or may
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not have. I don't.
Recall, I mean they did the number 2 for the cartoon.
Yeah, for the cartoon, so, so I mean, so they might have left it
up, but all I mean, they went ina little more detail on him and
the Wolf Pack, him and his relationship with Paguera, which
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all you knew it was in the cartoon that he just found the
baby and just kind of looked after him while the Wolf Pack
raised him, right. Just kind of kept an eye on him.
Here's more of Paguera is the protector.
Even though he's with the Wolf Pack, Baguera still pretty much
looking over him. Like, yeah, this is my
grandchild. Yeah.
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So throughout the movie he's constantly doing stuff that no
other animals doing. Making ropes, making a water
bucket out of a old coconut. I'm assuming it's coconut.
I mean, he's doing what? He's doing what he has to do to
survive. Yeah, yeah.
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But. They kind of dislike the fact
that he's not acting like an animal.
Right. He's not acting like a wolf.
That's not the wolf way. It's not this way.
It's not that way. And they call it his tricks,
those innovations, not his survival skills.
This is tricks which comes into play.
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Then of course, King Louie in this one is this huge, gigantic,
almost King Kong and is played by none other than Bill Murray,
the Ghostbuster himself. And try to hear him sing the
song is crazy. What's even more crazy?
It's sure Con Shere Khan and the2016 live action movie is is it
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Christopher Watkins? No, no, no, wait.
King Louie is Christopher Walken.
Bill Murray is blue. That's what it is.
Yes. I'm sorry, I got that wrong.
Once again, I am wrong. Aha, guys, it runs it down.
I know, right? Who would have thought that Iris
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Elba is sure con? Bill Murray is blue.
Bill Murray is blue. Scarlett Johansson is caught.
The snake yes, Christopher Walken is King Louie and.
Then Kingsley. Yeah, being Ben, Kingsley
Bagheera is Bagheera, and he's the English actor to send like a
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shit ton of movies. He's usually a bad guy in a.
Yeah, if you look him up, I mean, he's typically the baddie
in a lot of movies, but he is. She's actually a really good
actor. But every actor they used in
this movie, I mean, they almost did it, but they hear
Christopher Walken ask King Louie trying to do the Scott and
the BBD bop of King Louie the Ape.
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It was just, it was crazy. I think he did a good job.
He did a great job, but Bill Murray of Blue trying to sing
the bare necessities, he sung ithis way, which is.
Awesome, if you had him his faceon the screen you probably would
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have shit your pants. Oh yeah, yeah.
Because during this whole thing,I didn't even think when I first
watched the 2016, I never once thought of who does this, who
does that, right? But looking into it, I'm like,
I, I can't see it. Yeah, I cannot see it.
It's so crazy. But All in all, I mean, this is
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actually a really good movie andthe the live action version gets
more in depth with what he's doing with the animals in his
his trials and tribulations inside the jungle while he's
trying to stay away from Shirka,right?
So that was a little bit more indepth than the cartoon.
And he and he has more than one altercation with him.
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Right. He didn't just have the one
where he tied the knight knot ina Tiger's tail or with with Khan
tied a knot in a snake's tail, but he's interacting with Khan
Moore in the live action they did in the cartoon.
But I mean All in all, I don't know.
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It's a toss up. I like them both.
I love the original just becauseit was the original, but I can't
say this remake has done it justice.
Like they did justice with the remake and it's a live action,
so CGI is apparent. Computers have taken over.
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Skynet will be next. Just saying anybody's Terminator
fans. You know what talk about Skynet
is coming to saying? But.
I and I do like that the live action they have the animals
pretty much to scale what it would look like to a child.
Yes, with the exception of King Lou.
Oh yeah. King Lou is the.
Only thing massive yeah King Kong side like it's a little
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ridiculous. Dude, the man titties like he's
got triple chin and the triple chin just inflated is like
resting on top of his nipples. Like they're just there.
Like Oh my God it's there. Oh my goodness.
Yeah. And what I don't understand, and
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I understand, OK, so this is a children's cartoon as all the
animals been neutered as fate. Why?
But you see them climbing up themountainside there, and Balloon
has no walls and neither does Bagheera.
I'm just saying we gonna keep itreal.
We will keep it real. OK, well, how hard were you
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looking? Their asses all over are huge
TV. You couldn't miss it.
Is not looking so I definitely. Missed it.
Our dog turns around and just stretches just right.
You see a little coin purse because he hasn't really.
I want to look for it, it's there.
It's like a train wreck. Somebody shows you their butt
hole, you're going to look whether you want to or not.
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You'll be like, let's gross thatCJ, is that.
Yes, he just pulled something out of his armpit.
I think it was a mouse. That probably was.
He is an orangutan. He does kind of look like my
mother. I love my brother Death, but he
does. He looks like an ape.
No, there anybody little monkeysthat are attached to us for
that's what it. Is they're lemurs, that's.
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Gross. That's like, that's like
watching somebody with their hair done and they haven't
washed it in a month and they got roaches.
That's gross. That's that's.
Gross that that's what it looks like.
When they said you had bugs didn't mean life thing.
The actual fucking bugs they're.All up in his fur.
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Keep it out and shit, yeah. Well, I mean, monkeys do clean
each other. They do pick lice and everything
else out of their hair, so that's probably what they're
doing. Yeah, but the way.
That the, the the. OK.
Because he's like massive and those things are like an inch
tall. Well, yeah.
And it looks really disgusting. Look, I don't want to be the one
down the butt area trying to clean off license.
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I'm sure that's probably a shitty, just saying shitty job.
There's a lot of. That's a lot.
Of long hair, right there's. A lot of fur.
I bet she's got balls down there.
I'm not I. Bet you're the only one that's
worried about it. Nothing about shit balls.
I bet you shit balls. They just don't go chicka chicka
chicka. They got bong Dong, just not
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thong thong thong Dong. That's the nastiness.
Oh my God, like half his throat like moves every time he talks
like thing just jiggles like Gila.
Oh my God. It's just yeah, now look, if I
jumped out a tree like that. So he just got away from from
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King Louie. He he's jumping out of a tree.
He's like, I'm not going wherever it is he's going and he
jumps on a tree. I'm sorry.
I would have broke my legs. I mean, I've done some pretty
big jumps when I was younger. It's probably what my knees are
horrible. I think he's a future rugby
player. That's possible.
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But he fell, he probably got hurt and just played it off like
I am not hurt. It's quite possible.
Now if he was a soccer fan, he would have stubbed his toe, fell
to the ground and held his knee for like 30 minutes claiming Oh
my God it is broken. So if you love soccer, you know
I'm right. They a bunch of pansies saying.
Not all of them, but a few of them, yeah.
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You know, soccer match. What, an hour?
Only about 15 minutes of actual world gameplay because everybody
else fakes an injury. Rugby in an hour and a half and
only 5 minutes worth of actual injuries because everybody's
playing not to get hurt. Look, I played soccer for at
least I think it was two years. I took a whole ball to the
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stomach, bent over, caught my brand again.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I mean I've been kicked in the
shin. That felt so amazing.
You chance to do it. Don't, don't.
But no, just no, just no. And seeing the 2016 version
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here, you don't know what like So what jungle he's in, You
don't know if he's in India until he goes looking for the
red flower IE fire. Yeah.
Waggle and then you kind of OK, maybe he's in the Middle East
somewhere. Because you can't really see
any. Turbans or any real the the man
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gowns. The man dresses pretty, what
they're called now. I mean I think they hint to
India but but. You really just don't know.
Not a definite. I mean, they got Bengal tigers
and water buffaloes and a squirrel.
It sounds like Central Park, if I'm being honest.
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We're just at the. Zoo, we got a little bit of
everything. You got Peacocks, we got
everything. Hey, look, a bald eagle, it's
like, so they're a little bit ofeverything.
And I may just be ignorant. There may be bald eagles in the
jungles of India. I I just don't know.
I'm just waiting on somebody jump up and say thank you.
Come again. Just saying welcome to the
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Quicken. What?
You cannot bring in your bear oryour feather.
Wow. So anyways, but yeah, this
movie, the 2016 version, I like it.
I think it's a tie myself. Personally, I do not have a
favorite because they are ones animated and one is not and they
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both like you said, they both doit complete justice.
They did not disappoint whatsoever.
I'm glad their remake is a live action.
They took the same story, but they put a completely different
twist on it. Yeah.
And so it it brings it more to this day and age instead of
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keeping it like just remaking ananimated movie.
Keeping it dated. It only wants a dated.
Just the dated and for lack of better word, dumbed down for
kids. So this is more, this is what we
watched when we grew up, and nowthey remade it in 2016 because
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we're now adults and we still want to see it.
Yeah, just. We're like, are you serious?
That's not going to happen in a,you know, come on.
You are not going to tie a knot in a Tiger's ass.
I mean his tail, just that you're not, that's not going,
you're not going to go up and just like boop him on the nose
like bad Kitty, you didn't use the litter box.
No, you're not going to do that.Right.
So at least in the 2016 version,I think they addressed all that
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for us older folks now who remember watching it as a kids,
like, OK, yeah, he didn't go up,just bumped the cat on the nose.
I'm about no bad Kitty. But yeah, I mean, it's whatever
you you did not get out of the original.
They kind of made-up for in the the remake.
And it really filled up the the time frame.
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Like it really explained not really explained anything.
I mean, it's pretty much the same movie, just a little more
in depth. Yeah, just a little more to it.
So the other than the beginningsand the endings, everything else
in the middle is pretty much thesame.
See, I'm going to call this a tie.
I I don't hear it is a tie. You know, that's what I'm
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calling it. It is a tie.
It's a definite tie, so. That's it guys.
Stay tuned. Episode Sixes is going to be
here and. We got, we got True Grit.
True. Grit.
Our next one now, I think what we're going to do, because
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recording while we're on the road is a little iffy and not
not something we could look definitely, you know, walk in
every single time. So I think what we're going to
do is on our off time, we're going to do like a mass
recording so we can let him out a little bit of a time.
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Yeah. Yeah, over the next two weeks,
because about every two weeks we'd go home.
That's going to eat up a lot of our time as far as doing
anything else. But I am enjoying this a little
more than I probably should. So that's.
OK, Yeah, that's the whole pointof we're we're having.
Fun, Yeah. And we have no equipment.
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So by our off time hopefully we will be using that and we we
have some surprises up our sleeve.
So that's very. Fun.
Yes, it'll be. It'll be very interesting.
And I think for some bonus episodes they're going to get
really interesting because I've got some ideas up my sleeve.
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Yeah, and even if we don't stickto movies, I got a few things.
It'll be pretty interesting, if not even interesting.
It's just going to be funny as hell.
Let's just put it out there. It's going to be a rant that's
going to turn into like, Oh my God, that was some funny shit.
Because I've lived it. Yeah, not just me, but
everybody. It's going to be relatable.
So until next time. They won't be as long as this
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one though. Our our typical is about 45
minutes an hour. Yeah.
I know the the the bonus was probably less than that.
Well, it really depends on the movies, I think because like
these two, they Cohen, they, they there's really nothing to
really compare and contrast because they're pretty much the
same, you know, versus when we did the the RoboCop or the other
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one from that was source maker. Total recall.
Total recall Jesus, you know, just.
Did these, I can't. Remember what the hell it is.
Wow. But True Grit might be might be
interesting. I know there's quite a bit of
time gap in there. Yeah, you got the original from
69 with God. Just looked him up.
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The Duke, The Duke. The Duke.
I've watched all his movies growing up.
Yes, John Wayne. And then the newer version has.
We'll get to it. God, I can't think of his name
now, but you know. Anyways, we have fun.
They both wear eye patches in that movie, so we should be a
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lot of fire. Good.
I don't know. Yeah, alright guys, you guys
have a good one. We'll see you on the next
episode. Until next time.
Bye.
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Hello guys, this is DJ. Am I?
I'm Aaron. And welcome to OGS and their
remakes. So this is episode 4. 4-5 I'm.
Pretty sure it's 4I. Think it's 5.
Think right #5I. Think you're wrong?
I think I don't know. However, this was a fun one.
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This is This is The Jungle Book.Yeah, and I did not realize that
the cartoon, the animated came out in 1967. 1967 That was a
great year. Before our birth.
I don't know what was going on there, but that that was a great
year. So my favorite part of this was
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all the music when I was younger.
Oh yeah, the music, the dancing,yeah.
I mean, that was like the most memorable parts.
Memorable, Memorable. That's a funny word.
Memorable parts was the dancing and the singing.
But then again, a lot of the movies, a lot of the cartoons
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that came out around about this time from Disney, I don't want
to say that was her base, but that's pretty much how most of
their cartoons came out. Robin Hood, same way.
There was a lot of singing and that's which was awesome for
kids. You know, cartoon.
That was amazing. But yeah, 1967, this was, this
(01:56):
was the era where everybody wentthere and they actually hand
drawn each character page by page by page by page by page.
Took some major talent. But I also know I did some
research. I also know that Disney used to
use glass plates, painted glass plates to do all the Batgirl
scene in the foreground scene. So like there's one point you'll
(02:18):
see Cher Connie wandering through the grass and you can
tell that it was a pane of glassinstead of an actual hand drawn
cartoon with all the yeah, or like the background with the
buzzards. I mean, that's pretty much a
whole painting that somebody didin production and they would
just animate the characters in front of that that painting.
(02:39):
That's awesome. Just little thing.
I mean, this is back before computers really took over for
everything. I'll be friends that before
computers took over everything. So when somebody actually got
paid to sit down and do what I love to do, which is draw, this
is what they did. But The Jungle Book, so the
(03:02):
original 67, let's get into it. At the beginning of this movie
you you realize Bagera, which isthe Black Panther, finds a baby
in the middle of the jungle crying and takes it to a back of
wolves. Awesome.
When you watch the newer version, the one that came out
(03:25):
in that year, that I'm not remembering 2016.
But this is episode 5. I think I told you that already,
right? Sure.
Episode 5 absolutely, because because she was wrong.
Not me. She was wrong.
So in 2016 when they did that movie, when they did the the
(03:45):
live action of Jungle Book, you come in to where he's already
about 10 years old according to the story, and he's already
running to the jungle with the Wolf Colts, Cubs.
So that's the first difference that I noticed.
(04:06):
Well, in the 67 one, when he takes the baby to the pack, the
Wolf Pack, what I really noticedand of course, when you're
younger and you watch this, you,you don't think about it.
But what I noticed, and I can't,I really like instead of saying
(04:29):
he found a baby, they call it a man cub.
Yeah, because in the animal Kingdom, they're Cubs.
Yeah, yeah. So that I I do like that and
there is a lady go space. Thank God it wasn't a cat.
A pride of cats. We've got a hairless cat for you
(04:52):
have a hairless kitten. But I did there again, did some
more research. I watched the credits.
If you ever watched the credits to to find out who voiced what
character, unless you're into older music like I am or some of
the old black and white movies, which I mean, I'm no movie,
(05:16):
stop. I've seen a few.
That's like, OK, I know who these people are.
But like, I think I've told you this, Louis Prima, he was a big,
big trumpet person back in the the 40s, fifties and 60s had a
lot of hits on the the oldie channel.
If you have SiriusXM Tuna Tuna channel 70, I think it is, it
(05:38):
plays some of the older stuff. Channel 50, it plays some more
of the older stuff, but he played Louis Prima played King
Louie in the 1967 version as theape, the gorilla, orangutan,
whatever you want to call him. He played King Louie and I knew
the voice as soon as I heard him.
And listening to his his little musical rant, I'm like, I know
(06:01):
who that is. And I had to watch the credits,
make sure I was right because that's my wife.
I have been known to be wrong. Just say, but there's all kinds
of people in here that when you hear their voices, you know it
because you've seen it in other Disney films or you've heard it
on there Again, if you listen toold music like I do, you've
(06:23):
heard these voices before and itwas just, it's crazy.
And then the 2016 movies, just the same way you got Iris Elba.
And then you have thought I had a whole list of people that went
on and on about. But you know who these people
are? You hear their voices.
Like I know that person, but maytake you men to remember what
(06:44):
their real name is. But you know that person.
The 67 version, like I said, I love the music.
I love the whole theme of it andthe fact that you've got this
little kid running around tryingto get away from a Bengal tiger
and then goes to beat the littleshit out of it with a stick
(07:05):
saying I'm not afraid of you. Yeah.
I mean, you know, that's let's face that kids, a little badass.
I mean it does help when you gota blue hanging onto the tail and
slowing down. Or you just stupid just sucking.
Come here, you little fluffer ball of teeth.
(07:26):
I'm gonna beat the shit out yournose.
Yeah, I never thought about it until now, but the the Buzzards,
it's like the Three Stooges. Yeah.
And when I first watched it there again, now that I'm closer
to 50, that I have 40, now that I watch it again, at first I
thought it was The Beatles because you got the four
(07:49):
buzzards. There's four distinct different
voices and I swear to God it sound like Paul, Ringo and John
and. Yeah.
The other guy, but I swear to God, was The Beatles.
Watch the Curtis is one guy thatdoes all four voices.
That's pretty amazing considering he nailed 4
(08:12):
different English accents from 4different sides of the UK.
Here's a Here's a question. How do you tie a Tiger's knot?
Tail and a knot? Very carefully.
Only in the cartoon. Very carefully.
But also, I mean, also, I mean, back in that time, especially
when I was growing up, I don't know if your mother ever said
(08:34):
this to you, but I've had my momtell me a couple of times I'm
going to jerk a knot in your ass.
Yeah. And I think that's pretty much
what they were talking about. That was, you know, I'm going to
put a knot in your ass. That way you can't get away when
I go to beat you with the belt. Yeah.
That you were wearing. But yeah, I mean, Shere Khan
(08:55):
constantly looking after this kid, trying to get him blue.
I love blue, especially a cartoon version because he's
just got that voice. I don't remember who did his
voice over but he just got that voice of just calming is he
Almost reminds me of the Duke. Yeah.
Oh, John Wayne does, who he almost reminds me of, but it's
(09:16):
not him. Yeah, but you also realize that
in this movie, when the movie first starts out, you can tell
it takes place in India. For the original cartoon
version, first starts out, you can tell it takes place in
India. And the 2016 version, you don't
know. Where the hell is that?
You're just in a jungle. A jungle where we don't know,
(09:41):
but he's in the gym. That's when he started his
adventure. He didn't have a map and Agps
didn't work. By God, he went from a trip to
an adventure. I ain't lost.
I'm just wondering throughout the jungle.
And he can talk to animals. That's the great thing, He can
talk to animals. Yeah, and in the cartoon, if I
(10:05):
remember right, in the cartoon, the 1967, everything's in
English. Everything.
Just, you know, animals talking like everybody else.
And I'm sure throughout the countries that got spread around
and probably all been dumped over.
And yeah, translated, yeah. But in the I think in the 2016,
(10:26):
he actually like makes animal noises to show that he's talking
to the animals. Right, because he doesn't.
He can't communicate with every animal because they may not have
a language. But he did say that talking to
one of the little meerkats, that's what it was, a meerkat or
(10:48):
lemur. No, it wasn't lemur.
But everybody knows the story. They find the baby.
They take it to the the Wolf Pack.
Says give up the wolf cub. No, no, I'm not at first.
Not the car at first. When the kid gets to a certain
age, the wolves have a little meeting.
(11:09):
Sheer Khan has come to their area of the jungle and they're
needing to get the kid out of there because he kills.
He wants to kill the boy becausehe doesn't want him to grow up
to be a man who hunts. Pimps.
So in order to get him out of there, Bagheera offers to take
(11:32):
him on a walk, and he doesn't tell him this is what's going on
until they've already walked quite a ways.
We're going back to the manned camp.
Yeah, and then the boy runs awayfrom him because, well.
People say the juggle. Wants to stay.
He doesn't want to go anywhere. And then that's when he runs
(11:53):
into Blue, who Can't Sing to stop eating and singing.
But they are they they turn to really good friends.
Yeah, he does look out for it. Yeah.
And then they're towards the end, they realize that he needs
to go to the man village, the man tribe, the man and whatever.
(12:15):
And of course, it does help whenhe sees a woman.
Or a girl. Oh yeah, sees a little girl come
down there, get water and her little vase.
That always helps having a girl there.
Aha, people, I didn't say vase, I said a vase.
The cute little brown eyed girl at the river getting water and
he runs down there because now he's curious because there's
somebody who looks like him, a little different, but hairless
(12:36):
like him, like oh, who's that? She's got a pretty cool and next
thing you know, he's thinking with the wrong head because
towards the end he's holding a little plot going.
Should I help her? Should I not help her?
And then they're like no come back.
Blue Impaguer is like, no, come back.
We don't want you to turn into aman.
And he just kind of smiles. I'm like, hey, yeah, dude, I
want to hit that. I mean, I'm going to smash this
(13:00):
pot with water. That's when we almost smash it.
And he walks away, and that's the end of the story.
Now, the 2016 version, it is essentially the same story.
There's not a whole lot of. I mean, there's almost no
variation in the story as far asthe actual plot, the writing,
the screenplay, the whole 9 yards.
(13:21):
Yeah, The only true difference is, like I said in the very
beginning, you know, he was a baby in the cartoon here, he's
already about the age of 10, andhe's already running through the
jungle with everybody. And I almost skipped this part,
But at the very end of the cartoon, like I said, they take
(13:41):
him to the man village and he meets the girl, and he walks off
out of the jungle and says he's just going to stay there.
Not in the 2016 version. He does not find a girl.
He does not find a village. He stays in the jungle with
animals. Yeah.
Which is pretty awesome. I mean it, it leaves it open to,
you know, maybe doing a Jungle Book, too, which they may or may
(14:02):
not have. I don't.
Recall, I mean they did the number 2 for the cartoon.
Yeah, for the cartoon, so, so I mean, so they might have left it
up, but all I mean, they went ina little more detail on him and
the Wolf Pack, him and his relationship with Paguera, which
(14:25):
all you knew it was in the cartoon that he just found the
baby and just kind of looked after him while the Wolf Pack
raised him, right. Just kind of kept an eye on him.
Here's more of Paguera is the protector.
Even though he's with the Wolf Pack, Baguera still pretty much
looking over him. Like, yeah, this is my
grandchild. Yeah.
(14:47):
So throughout the movie he's constantly doing stuff that no
other animals doing. Making ropes, making a water
bucket out of a old coconut. I'm assuming it's coconut.
I mean, he's doing what? He's doing what he has to do to
survive. Yeah, yeah.
(15:07):
But. They kind of dislike the fact
that he's not acting like an animal.
Right. He's not acting like a wolf.
That's not the wolf way. It's not this way.
It's not that way. And they call it his tricks,
those innovations, not his survival skills.
This is tricks which comes into play.
(15:27):
Then of course, King Louie in this one is this huge, gigantic,
almost King Kong and is played by none other than Bill Murray,
the Ghostbuster himself. And try to hear him sing the
song is crazy. What's even more crazy?
It's sure Con Shere Khan and the2016 live action movie is is it
(15:54):
Christopher Watkins? No, no, no, wait.
King Louie is Christopher Walken.
Bill Murray is blue. That's what it is.
Yes. I'm sorry, I got that wrong.
Once again, I am wrong. Aha, guys, it runs it down.
I know, right? Who would have thought that Iris
(16:14):
Elba is sure con? Bill Murray is blue.
Bill Murray is blue. Scarlett Johansson is caught.
The snake yes, Christopher Walken is King Louie and.
Then Kingsley. Yeah, being Ben, Kingsley
Bagheera is Bagheera, and he's the English actor to send like a
(16:37):
shit ton of movies. He's usually a bad guy in a.
Yeah, if you look him up, I mean, he's typically the baddie
in a lot of movies, but he is. She's actually a really good
actor. But every actor they used in
this movie, I mean, they almost did it, but they hear
Christopher Walken ask King Louie trying to do the Scott and
the BBD bop of King Louie the Ape.
(16:59):
It was just, it was crazy. I think he did a good job.
He did a great job, but Bill Murray of Blue trying to sing
the bare necessities, he sung ithis way, which is.
Awesome, if you had him his faceon the screen you probably would
(17:19):
have shit your pants. Oh yeah, yeah.
Because during this whole thing,I didn't even think when I first
watched the 2016, I never once thought of who does this, who
does that, right? But looking into it, I'm like,
I, I can't see it. Yeah, I cannot see it.
It's so crazy. But All in all, I mean, this is
(17:42):
actually a really good movie andthe the live action version gets
more in depth with what he's doing with the animals in his
his trials and tribulations inside the jungle while he's
trying to stay away from Shirka,right?
So that was a little bit more indepth than the cartoon.
And he and he has more than one altercation with him.
(18:03):
Right. He didn't just have the one
where he tied the knight knot ina Tiger's tail or with with Khan
tied a knot in a snake's tail, but he's interacting with Khan
Moore in the live action they did in the cartoon.
But I mean All in all, I don't know.
(18:24):
It's a toss up. I like them both.
I love the original just becauseit was the original, but I can't
say this remake has done it justice.
Like they did justice with the remake and it's a live action,
so CGI is apparent. Computers have taken over.
(18:45):
Skynet will be next. Just saying anybody's Terminator
fans. You know what talk about Skynet
is coming to saying? But.
I and I do like that the live action they have the animals
pretty much to scale what it would look like to a child.
Yes, with the exception of King Lou.
Oh yeah. King Lou is the.
Only thing massive yeah King Kong side like it's a little
(19:10):
ridiculous. Dude, the man titties like he's
got triple chin and the triple chin just inflated is like
resting on top of his nipples. Like they're just there.
Like Oh my God it's there. Oh my goodness.
Yeah. And what I don't understand, and
(19:33):
I understand, OK, so this is a children's cartoon as all the
animals been neutered as fate. Why?
But you see them climbing up themountainside there, and Balloon
has no walls and neither does Bagheera.
I'm just saying we gonna keep itreal.
We will keep it real. OK, well, how hard were you
(19:54):
looking? Their asses all over are huge
TV. You couldn't miss it.
Is not looking so I definitely. Missed it.
Our dog turns around and just stretches just right.
You see a little coin purse because he hasn't really.
I want to look for it, it's there.
It's like a train wreck. Somebody shows you their butt
hole, you're going to look whether you want to or not.
(20:16):
You'll be like, let's gross thatCJ, is that.
Yes, he just pulled something out of his armpit.
I think it was a mouse. That probably was.
He is an orangutan. He does kind of look like my
mother. I love my brother Death, but he
does. He looks like an ape.
No, there anybody little monkeysthat are attached to us for
that's what it. Is they're lemurs, that's.
(20:39):
Gross. That's like, that's like
watching somebody with their hair done and they haven't
washed it in a month and they got roaches.
That's gross. That's that's.
Gross that that's what it looks like.
When they said you had bugs didn't mean life thing.
The actual fucking bugs they're.All up in his fur.
(20:59):
Keep it out and shit, yeah. Well, I mean, monkeys do clean
each other. They do pick lice and everything
else out of their hair, so that's probably what they're
doing. Yeah, but the way.
That the, the the. OK.
Because he's like massive and those things are like an inch
tall. Well, yeah.
And it looks really disgusting. Look, I don't want to be the one
down the butt area trying to clean off license.
(21:19):
I'm sure that's probably a shitty, just saying shitty job.
There's a lot of. That's a lot.
Of long hair, right there's. A lot of fur.
I bet she's got balls down there.
I'm not I. Bet you're the only one that's
worried about it. Nothing about shit balls.
I bet you shit balls. They just don't go chicka chicka
chicka. They got bong Dong, just not
(21:44):
thong thong thong Dong. That's the nastiness.
Oh my God, like half his throat like moves every time he talks
like thing just jiggles like Gila.
Oh my God. It's just yeah, now look, if I
jumped out a tree like that. So he just got away from from
(22:06):
King Louie. He he's jumping out of a tree.
He's like, I'm not going wherever it is he's going and he
jumps on a tree. I'm sorry.
I would have broke my legs. I mean, I've done some pretty
big jumps when I was younger. It's probably what my knees are
horrible. I think he's a future rugby
player. That's possible.
(22:27):
But he fell, he probably got hurt and just played it off like
I am not hurt. It's quite possible.
Now if he was a soccer fan, he would have stubbed his toe, fell
to the ground and held his knee for like 30 minutes claiming Oh
my God it is broken. So if you love soccer, you know
I'm right. They a bunch of pansies saying.
Not all of them, but a few of them, yeah.
(22:51):
You know, soccer match. What, an hour?
Only about 15 minutes of actual world gameplay because everybody
else fakes an injury. Rugby in an hour and a half and
only 5 minutes worth of actual injuries because everybody's
playing not to get hurt. Look, I played soccer for at
least I think it was two years. I took a whole ball to the
(23:15):
stomach, bent over, caught my brand again.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I mean I've been kicked in the
shin. That felt so amazing.
You chance to do it. Don't, don't.
But no, just no, just no. And seeing the 2016 version
(23:36):
here, you don't know what like So what jungle he's in, You
don't know if he's in India until he goes looking for the
red flower IE fire. Yeah.
Waggle and then you kind of OK, maybe he's in the Middle East
somewhere. Because you can't really see
any. Turbans or any real the the man
(24:00):
gowns. The man dresses pretty, what
they're called now. I mean I think they hint to
India but but. You really just don't know.
Not a definite. I mean, they got Bengal tigers
and water buffaloes and a squirrel.
It sounds like Central Park, if I'm being honest.
(24:21):
We're just at the. Zoo, we got a little bit of
everything. You got Peacocks, we got
everything. Hey, look, a bald eagle, it's
like, so they're a little bit ofeverything.
And I may just be ignorant. There may be bald eagles in the
jungles of India. I I just don't know.
I'm just waiting on somebody jump up and say thank you.
Come again. Just saying welcome to the
(24:43):
Quicken. What?
You cannot bring in your bear oryour feather.
Wow. So anyways, but yeah, this
movie, the 2016 version, I like it.
I think it's a tie myself. Personally, I do not have a
favorite because they are ones animated and one is not and they
(25:09):
both like you said, they both doit complete justice.
They did not disappoint whatsoever.
I'm glad their remake is a live action.
They took the same story, but they put a completely different
twist on it. Yeah.
And so it it brings it more to this day and age instead of
(25:29):
keeping it like just remaking ananimated movie.
Keeping it dated. It only wants a dated.
Just the dated and for lack of better word, dumbed down for
kids. So this is more, this is what we
watched when we grew up, and nowthey remade it in 2016 because
(25:50):
we're now adults and we still want to see it.
Yeah, just. We're like, are you serious?
That's not going to happen in a,you know, come on.
You are not going to tie a knot in a Tiger's ass.
I mean his tail, just that you're not, that's not going,
you're not going to go up and just like boop him on the nose
like bad Kitty, you didn't use the litter box.
No, you're not going to do that.Right.
So at least in the 2016 version,I think they addressed all that
(26:12):
for us older folks now who remember watching it as a kids,
like, OK, yeah, he didn't go up,just bumped the cat on the nose.
I'm about no bad Kitty. But yeah, I mean, it's whatever
you you did not get out of the original.
They kind of made-up for in the the remake.
And it really filled up the the time frame.
(26:34):
Like it really explained not really explained anything.
I mean, it's pretty much the same movie, just a little more
in depth. Yeah, just a little more to it.
So the other than the beginningsand the endings, everything else
in the middle is pretty much thesame.
See, I'm going to call this a tie.
I I don't hear it is a tie. You know, that's what I'm
(26:56):
calling it. It is a tie.
It's a definite tie, so. That's it guys.
Stay tuned. Episode Sixes is going to be
here and. We got, we got True Grit.
True. Grit.
Our next one now, I think what we're going to do, because
(27:17):
recording while we're on the road is a little iffy and not
not something we could look definitely, you know, walk in
every single time. So I think what we're going to
do is on our off time, we're going to do like a mass
recording so we can let him out a little bit of a time.
(27:39):
Yeah. Yeah, over the next two weeks,
because about every two weeks we'd go home.
That's going to eat up a lot of our time as far as doing
anything else. But I am enjoying this a little
more than I probably should. So that's.
OK, Yeah, that's the whole pointof we're we're having.
Fun, Yeah. And we have no equipment.
(28:00):
So by our off time hopefully we will be using that and we we
have some surprises up our sleeve.
So that's very. Fun.
Yes, it'll be. It'll be very interesting.
And I think for some bonus episodes they're going to get
really interesting because I've got some ideas up my sleeve.
(28:22):
Yeah, and even if we don't stickto movies, I got a few things.
It'll be pretty interesting, if not even interesting.
It's just going to be funny as hell.
Let's just put it out there. It's going to be a rant that's
going to turn into like, Oh my God, that was some funny shit.
Because I've lived it. Yeah, not just me, but
everybody. It's going to be relatable.
So until next time. They won't be as long as this
(28:44):
one though. Our our typical is about 45
minutes an hour. Yeah.
I know the the the bonus was probably less than that.
Well, it really depends on the movies, I think because like
these two, they Cohen, they, they there's really nothing to
really compare and contrast because they're pretty much the
same, you know, versus when we did the the RoboCop or the other
(29:10):
one from that was source maker. Total recall.
Total recall Jesus, you know, just.
Did these, I can't. Remember what the hell it is.
Wow. But True Grit might be might be
interesting. I know there's quite a bit of
time gap in there. Yeah, you got the original from
69 with God. Just looked him up.
(29:36):
The Duke, The Duke. The Duke.
I've watched all his movies growing up.
Yes, John Wayne. And then the newer version has.
We'll get to it. God, I can't think of his name
now, but you know. Anyways, we have fun.
They both wear eye patches in that movie, so we should be a
(29:57):
lot of fire. Good.
I don't know. Yeah, alright guys, you guys
have a good one. We'll see you on the next
episode. Until next time.
Bye.
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