7. The Lion King

1994 vs 2019

Episode Transcript

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Who cares of DJ? I'm DJ and I'm Aaron.
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He's tried to do it didn't. Yes.
It's The Lion King. It's The Lion King.
Yeah, well, fun fact and this one is really fun.

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So I'm sure the other drivers and people that spend a lot of
time on the road and travel can tell.
However, truck drivers, I feel very confident in saying almost
100% of truck drivers will know why you are making a bee line to

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that rest area or to that truck stop.
And the minute you get out of your truck, they can tell that
you've got to poop. You got to poop.
Because there's a specific. Walk.
Yeah, it's called your ass and stuck cheeks are clenched and by
God, you're doing like baby tipsacross the parking lot.

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I don't know how many times we've seen people do that.
I don't know how many times we've done that.
Speaking of which, come on gentlemen, I mean at least use
your foot. Put it on the toilet seat, lift
it up if you have to. Like if you were bladder shot,
you were not confident in the size of your pinky and you don't
want to stand there for you're able to go pee and use the

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stall. Hey, that's fine.
Lift the toilet seat up the lastlooks like you guys just go in
there. Just whip it out and just like
you can do it and just like shake it side to side.
You've got a whole string blowing.
You know what's even worse is when you go into a women's
bathroom and you see the toilet seat up and you see shit
everywhere. Back black area was not.

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Absolutely like. Potato gun went off.
Like why? Oh my God, I don't want to touch
it. I'm not the first time they ever
said that either. Oh my God, I got a poo.
Oh goodness. Anyway, The Lion King first came

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out in 1994. Yep.
So I was 10 years old. I was on the verge of graduating
high school, and we'll leave it at that.
This. Sounds really, really horrible
when you put it like that. Just.

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Like, both of us being in our 40s, Eh, no biggie.
When you go all the way back to I was 10 and you were 1718.
Yeah, that that sounds a little creepy.
Quite, quite creepy. Believe me, 10 year old was not
on my mind at that age, I can promise you that much.

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Obviously, you know, the the thetwo Lion Kings that we're
watching today was the animationfrom 1994 and then the live
action version, which is a lot of CGI.
They did really good with it wasdone in 2019.
So there is definitely differences as far as styling,

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right? But just like True Grit, they're
almost the exact same grip. Yeah, they stuck to the same
story. I mean, they they used the same
song, you know, they they had the whole presentation of Simba

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and piki and pasta. Same person played Mcfossa and
both of them which was fantastic.
Girl Jones. Can't replace that guy.
However, the animated one in 1994 was definitely geared 100%

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for little kids. Yeah, and that's what we were.
Talking about well, it's not just because the animation, it's
because of how past the movie move with the storyline and the
song and. How it kept your attention.
Yeah, and the bright colors, Yeah, even Rafiki had like a
million freaking colors on them.Yeah, it would be a baboon.

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Yeah. But there again, I mean, like we
were talking about earlier, the last real cartoons they came out
with was like Fantasia and Cinderella and So White.
I mean, that was still done in the 60s and 70s.
So up until the early 90s, Disney hasn't really released
anything. And then they came out with this

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whole like Disney, just cute cartoons.
Here you go. Look, they spent a few years
just putting it all together andsaid move it.
There you go. All at once.
This sounds like a good year. Just release everything a
little. Mermaid, we had a lad in that
year we had this movie, The LionKing we had.

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There was a lot. There was a lot in the 90s.
There was a. Lot that came out and like I
said, between 1990 and literallyabout 1997, Disney just said the
year. This is what we've been working
on for the past 20 years. Here you go.
And then when they did the live action remake, I feel like that
was for the people that are old enough to watch to have seen.

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Remember the cartoon you watch? We did this with just a little
better, a little more realistic for you.
And they did. And the CGI version that the
live action version, it is a lotof CGI, but it looks more, it
looks realistic. It was like somebody went out to
with National Geographic Geographic and did a lot of

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filming and then they just put the computer in and stuff in
those flute and it turned out amazing.
I mean, it really did they Disney did a really good job.
I mean, it did a really good job.
Just in case you guys know, we have a bear in our house.

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Yeah, he is currently hot because it's 93 in May, so we
already know summer is going to be 1.
Not one. I mean my wife's already hot,
that's why I run the AC on. Cold commence the eye rolls.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause that we don'thave a cricket film on here,
that'd be perfect. Yeah. 1994 with the 2D

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animation. Classic and drawn animation with
vibrant dialized visual. So they say the characters have
exaggerated facial expressions, which of course is cartoon,
which can enhance the emotional storytelling, which is great for
kids. They don't always just listen to
the words. They have to look at it like not

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only just say, Oh my God, it's crows, but you look at your face
just like. Yeah.
You can't do much. I do have a face.
I do have a face to podcast, so that's perfect.
Absolutely. I got a body for radio there.
Oh my God. So the 20, the 2019 remake is a

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photo realistic version marked as the live action.
But was the the whole thing? This is kind of weird.
The whole thing is computer generated.
Yeah. Backgrounds, the scenes, you
name everything. The best part is it does not
look. Even though you know it's
computer generated, it doesn't have that.
Over the top. Over the top like.

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Doesn't have that glitchiness like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very Polish.
Yes, very. Very, very Polish.
The animals look real, but they're limit the facial
expressions, which is which, youknow, some people say felt made
them kind of emotionalist. But if you think about it,
animals realistically do not have a million facial.

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Expressions. They really don't.
It's in the eyes and they did very, very good.
They really do on bringing the emotions from the eyes in the
29th. So in 1994, James Earl Jones,
well, custom, well custom JeremyIrons this car, he's he's also

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in, I think we just discussed that he was Batman.
Batman. Batman.
Alfred. Yeah, yeah.
In. Not in all of them, but in.
One version of the. Batman versus Superman or
something like that. And then Nathan Lane did Simone
and they were pretty much theatrical as allies to match

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the animation, which is great. One thing they didn't have on
here is in the 1994 version one of the hyenas.
I don't remember his name for the 1/2 bit off here.
Ed. Ed, Ed, I don't remember.
It's played by Cheech Marion from Cheech and Chong.

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And when you're sitting there and you're just listening to the
voices from the cartoons, you now know who they are and you're
like, Oh my God, that's Cheech Pitbull.
Benzai. Benzai, Benzai, Benzai.
PANZAI. No, it's not.

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OK, so the 2019 version still has James Earl Jones returning
as Mufasa. He is your father.
And then, of course, Donald. I guess not, Danny, but Donald
Glover is Simba, Beyoncé is Nala.

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And I'm just going to mess this name up, but somebody else plays
star. And then Billy Ettner and Seth
Rogen played Timon and Pumbaa. And of course, this one is more
naturalistic acting the match, realistic visuals of the
animals. And some people say it, it felt
like it lacked the original flair.

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Well, yeah, Well. Yeah, because it's it's not a
cartoon, it's not animated. More realistic.
Whenever you, which I mean whenever you take something
that's that we have watched originally when it first came
out as an animation and then youyears and years later.

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And this tastes like what, 30, almost three years later.
Yeah, almost. They did a live action.
Well, it's kind of like when youtake a painting and make it into
a tattoo. Or even a poster.
Or even a poster into it or a picture into a tattoo.

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You're not going to be able to capture every single itty bitty
little thing because it's going from 1 extreme to a different 1.
So whenever you make it into a live action, there's always
going to be somebody that's striking.
I mean, can't please everybody. Just, I'm just like, I'm sure
whenever they did in Aladdin, there's plenty of people were

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going to find that said all kinds of stuff.
But when you're looking at it Asfor what it is, for what they
actually did, when you recognizethe job that they were trying to
do and the job they did, they did a very good job.
Oh yeah, They kept the story. They didn't change it
completely. They didn't, you know, do this

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crazy add in that that I don't know no and.
Pretty much the script is prettymuch the same like they it's
they're getting some of the workfrom work.
Yeah, now they did. They changed a couple things,
like when in the original animation when Timon and and
Boombo were going to distract the hyenas.

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Yeah. Simone put a shirt on.
Yeah. And did his little dance you.
Want me to cross dress and go dance for?
He he asked, what do you want meto do, put a hula skirt on and
go sing and dance for him? And that's what he did.
Yeah. And the live action one, they
started singing something from you didn't beat.

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Yeah, The Yorker. So.
I mean, there's little differences, but at the same
time it worked and it was hilarious.
It was still on Disney. I mean, you recognize the song
and that was it too. The original had more singing in
it than the remake. Not the same that the music
wasn't there and the singing wasn't there.

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It's just in the cartoon there was more singing from the
character themselves. And I think that's because it
was geared towards it was. Children.
Yeah. You know.
It was geared towards just when we was little, yes and outlook
grown up. Like, well, at the same time, if
you think about it, the same time back then, musicals were
also somewhat big. Yeah.

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You know you, you had. Look on movies like these I
compare this to like fruit loop and Cherry.
Yeah, you are. Fruit Loop.
You can answer it. So you watch the 1994 Disney
movies. It's like you watch that and
you're eating Fruit Loop. Now that you're grown up, you're
watching more the CGI stuff, theremake, because it's more

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sophisticated and you're no longer eating Fruit Loop.
You're not eating your Honey NutCheerio.
You're. Worried about your home?
Sure, we'll go with that kind ofhonesty to watch.
I really don't care. But see an old grown man walking
through the store with A1 box ofFruit loops going damn it, I'm

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going to watch these cartoons today.
I don't judge because I am that.I am that guy you.
Are. Yeah, you're, I'm going to say
you are that. Guy, but for those who don't
want to be that guy, it's, you know, literally I eat Fruit
loops and I watch these Disney cartoons and now that you're
older, like you watch the the live action version of it and
you're not eating fruit loops anymore.

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You're not eating cookie. Sure.
I mean, I'm out of this so yeah,I'm looking charmed with one
anyways. Anyways, I am a grown child, but
in 1994, Elton John, Tim Rice, Hans Zimmer, which does a lot of
music for like Jason Staple movies and Fast and Furious

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because all that orchestra type music.
And then of course songs like Circle of Life, Kuna Matata and
Can you See the Love Tonight? I'm sorry, but a lot of the
stuff is played on radio on a regular basis.

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And just like boys, the men, somebody had that after high
school graduation. I know they did.
Or in the backseat of a little Pontiac T100 hatchback.
Can you do? Wow, that was not me.
I don't. Own one now I can say the way

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which was when when Noah showed up in the jungle for the live
action one. I like that one better than I
did the other one. Yeah.
Because they brought in all the other animals to help with the
music and everything. It wasn't just Simone belting

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out some. Lyrics.
Yeah, it was actual. Like everybody's joining.
Everybody in the jungle, the Vanna, the Pride Land, we'll
just give it that. The pride land, Yeah, because it
it, yeah, They they they call ita jungle, but it's really not a
jungle. Like a Sahara.

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Yeah, somewhat like that. Planes.
Just confusing. Not the plain, but like, do that
again we're. Good.
The 2019 version they pretty much retained most of the
original song. They did add a new one by
Beyoncé Spirit. But she did a very good job.

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I I think she did a really, really good job.
She did. You don't see her or hear her
much doing movies, but she actually did a really good job.
She did, and I think now this isjust me, this is just my
opinion, this is what I think. But I'm pretty sure that pretty
much every movie that she's in now that she's acting in that
she has some sort of physical role in this voiceovers,

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whatever. I think it's written under her
contract. You have to use one of my I.
Wouldn't. I would.
I mean, this is smart move on her behalf.
Yeah, Yeah, I'd rather. Hear It helps promote her albums
and. Stuff I'm about to get hated on,
but I'd rather hear Beyoncé. Mariah Carey any day.
Yeah, any day. You love Mariah Carey.

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Seek mental help. I'm just throwing that one out.
There, they don't help. Just FYI.
He's still. He's still seeking.
Special I do wear a helmet all the time.
I mean we do drivers with. I mean mostly in the shower.
When I wear my helmets, I don't drown.

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So the humor is pretty well balanced in the drama and the
emotional effect. The emotional beats like
Mufasa's death and Simba's return were, you know, they the
music and the tone. Pretty much was felt.
And it added more because the expressive nature that they

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could do with the Partridge. Yeah.
But in the 2019, the tone is more serious.
It's it's not so lively because of the real, because of the lack
of facial expressions and emotions that the animals don't
have. Well, last time I seen my dog
actually smile at me was never just short of me putting my

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fingers on either side of his mouth and look jeez and making
him look like complete doofus. Otherwise, this is his eyes and
his ears. Just like, really.
Which FYI, he does. Let us sit there and play with
him like that. He he, he.
He gives us the side eye. The side eye is real with this
one. But he'll let us but.
He will let you. Yeah, holded his front lip on

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top of his teeth earlier today. Let me say like like a buck dog
and he just sit there. He didn't move, he didn't shake,
he didn't lick his lips. He didn't try to read it.
He just looked at us like just whatever you guys are done like
I know I'm not going to fix it. As soon as I do, you're going to
fuck with me again. I'm just I'm.
Done. I mean, I know why he puts up

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with me. I I feed him.
This is true. I feed him the good stuff, yes,
I think he puts up with you, just says you're here.
And I'm OK with that. I, I, I think, yeah.
Anyway, so in 1994, Lion King was regarded as one of the

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greatest animated films of all time in universal playing force,
innovation and emotional depth in music.
So all across the US in most of the the world, I mean this thing
has been translated I don't knowhow many times.
Yeah, we had it in Spanish classI.
Mean 1994. I mean, they were going

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international with all their stuff, but I mean, they also had
a Disneyland in Japan, Germany. They didn't even talk about
putting a Disney World in Abu Dhabi.
Wow. Yeah, I want to go see the
Aladdin ride in that place. Might be a little interesting.

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They're going to do, they're going to put your Mercedes-Benz
and just drive you out the gates.
Go down the block. There you go.
Welcome to real life Aladdin. You want to play Call of Duty?
The two countries over. Oh my God, The 2019 live action

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banking was kind of got hit witha mixed kind of positive
reception. And some people, like some
people didn't, of course, they just wanted to just rave about
the technical achievement of theCGI for the entire movie.
Yeah, because, you know, that's the only thing you need to worry
about. But Oh my God, it did not have

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the emotional impact because they couldn't show facially.
Well, no shit. Yeah.
But like I said, if anybody and,and that probably came from
somebody who doesn't like animals, doesn't have any
animals and doesn't know anything about animals.
I mean, if you go do a remake ofthe movie, they should have the
same visual expressions. I mean, I know it's CBII know

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it's just a, a, a, a, a fictional place.
But I mean, at least you can make them smile every once in a
while when they see their loved ones.
Yeah, again, every animal. If you pay attention to animals,
if you have animals, if you likeanimals, then pay attention to
them. They sniff each other, but
that's what you. Can tell by the eyes.

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They sniff the ass. You can tell by the detail
positioning. I know this.
One body language. You're a weirdo.
And then, you know, we got this,this individual right over here.

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I don't sniff your butt because I don't know you.
Wow. Yeah, wow, I know why we drive
with SIP SWIP. Yeah, see what I fucked up
today? I mean Swift SW.
I we don't fuck up anything. We just flipped it.
We we twisted it, flipped it so so just kind of get over this

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little review deal. The bottom line is 1994 is
considered a classic because of the heart stylized animation in
the emotional powwow. No power about the powwow.
Yeah, but at the same time, for me anyway, as an animal lover, I
felt more hugging at my heartstrings with the the 19 or

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the 2020 that the 2019 one. Yeah, and they're saying that
they're very impressed with the visual stylization of it, but
they say it lacks less emotionalresonance.
I don't give a. Damn what they say.
Just to worry, I don't. I don't know.
And it that tries to lean heavily on nostalgia, but I, I,

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I like them both. I like the original electric
cartoon version because that's what I remember.
That's what I remember seeing when it first came out.
And like, we're talking to my cousin, she had all these movies
in the 90s. They came out by Disney.
She watched him do things religiously with what she could
sing it without any prompt. Right.
And then watching some of these remakes of these same Disney

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movies later on in life now thatI'm almost 30 sure yes, we're.
Going to go with. But to see it, it's, it's more
it is literally the grown up version of the cartoon we want.
And I like that they didn't change it.
They didn't change the story andpretty much the lines you heard
and the original, the same linesyou heard in the in the remake.

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And it felt very, very familiar.But it's just more up to date,
more polished, more possessed. Pizzaw.
Just say pizzaw, you're weird one time.
No Pizzaw, no I I enjoyed both of them.

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Again, just because we grew up with the the animated one.
So it's it's always going to be a good one.
But the live action one for the sheer fact that they kept the
story and didn't add a whole bunch of extra junk to it or

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take away any anything that was necessary.
So yeah, I like both of them. Yeah.
And what I, what I have enjoyed today, especially today when we
watched closest movies because in the live action version, you
didn't really, I mean you caughtsome of the nuances, but you

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did, you know, it's like, OK, yeah.
But when you're listening and orwatching the original now as an
adult. You catch a lot more.
You catch a lot more in the Windows side to comment things
that were said that you're like what the fuck did they get away
with that? As a kid, it just went right
over your head. Like literally when Simone says

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you want me to to put on a clueless skirt, go dance home
and then in the I think either that one or the live action, but
one of the one, one of the two says, so you want me to cross
dress and go dance or cross dress and go to the director.
The next thing you know, they'rehe's in the skirt.
Plus it is Anyways, there's a lot of moments like that where

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they were just like. Yeah, now the live action one,
they all three just stared at Pumba until he got until his his
brain caught up to what he was saying.
The needing bait and everything need.
Fresh bait. Yeah, because they were all that
Timon, Simba, Nala, they all just stared at him.

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And he's talking about how they need fresh bait, they need live
bait, They need, you know, somebody to go over there and
and why are you looking at me? Oh, we got to be Batman.
I mean, they were hyenas and they were always hungry.

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OK, good. All right.
Got more meat? Bacon.
Bacon. Watch them hand box more I've
ever told you. Got some sexy legs?
Poor hog. When I sucked him down, I put
him in the freezer. He just.

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That's wow. He can go on for days, I already
know. Kuma Matata.
Hakuna matata. No, no, he said.
Hakuna. But that's not.
What you said the first time, wecan play it back later.

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We probably, I'm probably wrong,but I really don't care because
it's hakuna. I've got the top top part.
That's all that matters. That's all that matters.
Wow. Yeah.
So our next one is going to see.That one.

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The longest yard. The longest yard, yes.
And for those who don't know, there is 2 versions.
And I've seen both. And I don't think Burt Reynolds
is in both. I don't think he is.
He might. Be I want to say he is, but in
two different aspects. Yeah, two different roles.

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So. But I guess we get to find out.
Yeah, I've never seen the original.
So that was something something different, I think.
I've seen the original 1 and it was a long.
Time ago you were opening your mind the movies you did not know
existed for 1995. Yeah, and considering our kids

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listen to this, their their minds are probably getting blown
right now. Yeah, we won't see what I was
doing with cheetahs and then being back to your back in the
time either. On that note.
I was watching Movies, OK. I don't want to know.
It's cool. We will say what kind of movies.

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Watch the movie, it's all the matter.
Just when you start videotaping this because the looks that I
give him you really need to see.Yeah, Oh my God.
We need to wait. We need to start videotaping
this just so I can put it on TikTok or or Facebook or just so

(30:28):
they can see the look. Me being myself and seeing you
going Oh my God, I said yes I did.
I do to this. Man.
And then I also told him you're not allowed to go anywhere else.
Yeah, I definitely married. Up.
And then I said, oh guess what? It would be a good idea.
Let's be stuck in a little box all day long for weeks on end

(30:50):
together. Look guys, if you ever decide
you want to drive a truck, that is the best thing you can do.
You can make a ton of money. You don't have to deal with
anybody and I mean if you really, I don't want to say hate
your family, but you just don't really want to deal with them
during holidays, drive a truck. It's perfect.
You will be working. But before you do what I want
you to do, I want you to get a acrib, mattress, ATVA, microwave,

(31:16):
a cooler, your pillow and a sleeping bag and put all that
shit in your closet. And that's where you need to
stay for the next 5 days and learn to pee in a bottle,
because if you could do that forfive days, you can drive a
truck. Not a problem.
Not pretty much. I mean, that's, that's

(31:40):
essentially it. You are living out of a club.
And if you do team driving properly, not everybody knows
how to do it properly. But if you do it properly, you
make money while you're sleeping.
Oh God yes, I get paid while she's driving.
The only company I've ever worked for where I got paid to
sleep. Yes.

(32:02):
Pretty much. Yes, depending on the load, I
even get paid to poop. I'm just saying I'm just I'm
just saying we work for Department of expression.
They paid me to work out. It was awesome.
Now this one I get paid to sleep.
It's all about perspective people.

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Yes, sometimes you just need to change your.
Sure. Sure.
All right, guys. So I guess next time we'll see
you would be on the longest yard.
Yeah, we're going to find out how long that is.
Oh Lord. Suck y'all later and.
My butt already hurts.