March 14, 2025 • 27 mins
Listen in for an enlightening conversation on how to overcome trauma and live a life of triumph. Rhonda Britten is a Master Coach, an Emmy Award Winner, a best selling author, and she is the Founder of The Fearless Living Institute. Changing lives since 1995, Rhonda has been named "America's Favorite Life Coach" and once you hear her story, you will understand why.
You can learn more about Rhonda by visiting her website: https://fearlessliving.org
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello and welcome back to On Air with Dr Pete.
I'm your host, dr Pete Economo,and I'm thrilled that you're
back again listening and tuningin.
As you know, we've got somegreat guests and today
especially, is another one ofthose examples another
incredible guest.
The goal of this podcast is tobe uplifting and inspiring.
Stories understand how tomanage life.
(00:37):
All these different topics sortof give you the how-to, and
today we have a true story ofresilience and it's my hope that
her story will inspire you tokeep moving through whatever
challenges you might be facing.
Please welcome Rhonda Brittonto the show today.
She is a master coach, an EmmyAward winner, a best-selling
author, and she's the founder ofthe Fearless Living Institute
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Changing lives.
Since 1995, rhonda has beennamed America's favorite life
coach and once you hear herstory you're going to understand
why.
So thank you for being here,rhonda, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Thank you, dr Pete, I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, you really have been so open and honest about
sharing your own personal story.
So for the listeners that arejust listening to you and being
introduced for the first time,tell us a bit about your
background.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I would be happy to, and I wasn't always open and
available because I was scaredto talk about it.
In the beginning I was nervous,as can be, but once I started
doing it and really saw how muchit supported people, it gave me
the courage to keep sharing it.
So here I am.
So I believe that the worst dayof our lives actually contain a
seat of our destiny, and sowhat you're referring to is the
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worst day of my life, right?
And I was 14 years old and Igrew up in a little tiny town in
upper Michigan 365 inches ofsnow a year, two restaurants,
douglas House, buffet Hotel andBig Boy no McDonald's.
We had to go an hour and a halffor that.
And my parents were recentlyseparated and it was Father's
(02:08):
Day, so my father was comingover to take us to Sunday brunch
, which was a big deal.
So I'm in my mom's room.
She's puffing up her Behabhairdo and putting on her blue
lash ad on her rose colorlipstick, and my two sisters are
fighting it out in our onebathroom and my dad walks in the
back.
Come on, girls, come on,because that's what dads do,
right, that's what they do, sothat's what they do, and so me
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and my mom start walking out mysister's still fighting and out
in the bathroom, and as we walkoutside it's starting to
sprinkle.
So my dad says let me get mycoat from the car Now.
This coat is a tan Naga hideleisure suit coat, so if you're
old enough to remember, thosewere hot looking coats.
Yes, and so as he opens thattrunk to get his coat, I noticed
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out of the corner of my eyethat he is not grabbing a coat,
but he is grabbing a gun.
And he starts yelling at mymother you made me do this, you
made me do this.
And he fires and I startscreaming what are you doing,
dad?
What are you doing, dad?
What are you doing?
And he cocks the gun for asecond time, points it at me and
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I believe I'm next, and heblinks and I blink.
He blinks, I blink, and mymother, with her last literal,
last breath, screams out no,don't yeah my father, realizing
my mother is still alive, takesthat bullet intended for me and
shoots my mother second time.
It goes through her abdomen,out her back, lands in the car
horn and for the next 20 minutesall I hear is the horn right
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the horn, and then my fathercocks the gun a third time,
points it to his head and fires.
And so in a matter of twominutes, I was a sole witness of
watching my father murder mymother and commit suicide in
front of me.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
At 14 years old.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
At 14 years old, and now I don't know how you'd
respond, but I blamed myselfbecause I was the only one
physically out there that couldhave changed it right.
I didn't jump in front of thegun, I didn't kick my father in
the shins, I didn't grab therifle from his hand right, nope,
nope.
I just stood screaming stop,daddy, stop.
And from that moment I like tothink of it as I split in two,
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and I think many people canrelate to that right the outside
ronda and the inside ronda.
And the outside ronda was I'mfine, I'm fine, straight a
student, full ride to collegeclass president, I, I'm fine,
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good,I'm good, good, good, good, good
.
And inside though, self-hatred,self-deprecation, low
self-confidence, self-esteem,believing that this was all my
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fault.
And if you watch your motherdie, you don't get to be happy.
That's off the table, right offthe table.
So for the next years I foundalcohol in college.
So I started drinking, numbedthe pain a little bit Right, and
from my drinking I got threeDUIs.
I tried to kill myself threetimes, oh man.
And it was that third suicideattempt that really made me
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realize I'm not very good atkilling myself.
And it also made me realizethat if I'm not dying because
that's what I wanted, then theremust be a reason that I'm alive
Now.
During those years of alcoholand DUIs and suicide attempts, I
was also a self-help junkie.
I was going to therapy andreading books and going to
workshops.
I mean, I read my firstself-help book when I was 12.
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So you know, I know right.
And you're not going to believethe title.
It was.
Why am I afraid to tell you whoI am?
Can you believe it?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
At 12 years old?
Yeah, no.
At 12 years old why am I afraidCut from a different?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
cloth no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I deemed not crazy, right?
So I got to go home, and so I'mhome, and, um, I just realized,
after all the work I'd done onmyself, here I was again and I
have to start over.
I have to start over.
And so I thought to myself whatdo kindergartners do?
Well, they get a calendar andgold stars.
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Back to the basics.
So I went to, got a calendarand gold stars and for the next
30 days I still have thiscalendar.
By the way, I put a gold staron any time I did anything good
in any way, shape or form.
And we're talking about gettingmad and not breaking anything.
That's where I was at the time,like whoa, look at me, I didn't
break anything.
Yay me Right.
But at the end of right yeah,movement forward, movement
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forward.
And so, at the end of 30 days,I had a calendar filled with
gold stars, nice, and that gaveme hope and kept me going.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So this transition to your passion of helping others
I'm imagining now, do you stilluse calendars and gold stars?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I use something called acknowledgement.
So then, calendar gold starseven though sometimes my clients
do use calendar gold stars, butwhat I've turned it into is
something calledacknowledgements, and I've built
on it.
So acknowledgements are today,I acknowledge myself for and
you're acknowledging yourselffor a little stretch, risk or
die that you've taken that day,any movement forward, I don't
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care how long it lasts, I don'tcare if it's a second, I don't
care if you thought it anddidn't do it, but anything that
is any different than theprevious time before.
And you are going toacknowledge the heck out of
yourself because, as you know,people do not give themselves
credit for their growth.
They only keep track of howthey're failing.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, especially high achievers, and with your trauma
, I mean I'm just if we, youknow, we're calling it what it
is and so you know that's reallyan inspirational story, because
at 14, there's not a lot ofpeople that would be able to go
through that.
You know, and and and findpurpose, you know, in that pain,
which really it seems to have,like intentionally, sort of
propelled you further andforward.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
No, I was gonna say.
I can see in hindsight thatthis was all right.
This is all divinely guidedright, like it's like.
Of course that had to happen.
Of course I had to go throughfear and of course the first
book I read was why Am I Afraidto Tell you who I Am?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, we keep talking about fear, so that's what I'm
trying to like.
So I'm wondering you know, howdid you allow yourself to
believe that you could live afearless life even after that
type of trauma?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, well, that's a really good question, because I
actually this is in my late 20sI quit drinking, so that was the
first good step.
Right Then I forgave my fatherand my mother and myself for
that day, because that was big,I had to do that work and that
was really freeing.
And I at the time this is in myearly 30s I had a little PR
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company and I worked with soloentrepreneurs and one of my solo
entrepreneurs was the first,one of the very first life
coaches and he would tell me allthe time you're going to be a
better coach than me.
And I was like have youforgotten about the three DUIs,
three suicide attempts and thealcoholism?
Have you forgotten that?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Because I don't think anybody wants you were still
judging yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Absolutely.
I mean, who am I?
I really thought at that timethat I was still my past right.
I had done a lot of work onmyself, but I still didn't think
that I had a right or could getbeyond that, because everybody
would be like, well, you'retrying to kill yourself, why am
I going to listen to you, why doyou have anything?
And now I was going to schoolto become a spiritual
practitioner.
It was a four-year program butI didn't have the goal to
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actually have clients because,again, I can't have clients
right, and so are you up forsome woo-woo.
Dr Pete, I love it.
You love woo-woo.
You're good with woo-woo, okay,so I am at his office working
with my client and we'rebrainstorming a new workshop
he's going to do, and I'msitting on the couch and he's at
the board, he's writing down,writing down, writing down,
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writing down, right, and we'rejust working our way off,
working, working, working, andthen all of a sudden, out of the
corner of my eye, I see a cloudcome down from the ceiling with
a book on it, and the book goeslike this, shuts and goes back
into the ceiling.
And I'm like what the hay Iturn, I'm like, I'm like that
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can't be for me.
I mean, that was my firstresponse.
That can't be for me.
I turn around to see if somebodyhad walked in that it must be
for, and it accidentally, like Ihit me right, I got splashed
from the puddle right, like it's, like it can't be me.
And so I look and there'snobody there.
And so then I look over at Paul, my client, one of the first
coaches, and he's still talking.
He has no idea what's happening.
And so I'm like what the heck?
(10:29):
And I thank God.
The next day I had anappointment with my minister in
the spiritual practitionerprogram and I'm like, okay, the
ceiling came down, the cloudcame out of the ceiling with the
book and the book went and itanswered.
Because what happened with thatdownload is I?
every question I'd ever had wasanswered yeah I knew everything,
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about everything I'd ever beenwanting to know.
And not only that, um, it toldme.
Now I must go and teach it wowokay.
And I said to my, said this tomy minister, and I was like,
well, yeah, I'll be ready.
Um, like, I have to finish mybachelor's because I left with
three classes left and I got toget my master's, get my PhD, and
then I'll write a book.
And she goes Rhonda, you gotthe call, you're ready.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm like no, you seem to have forgotten.
I've got three classes.
I got to get my master's.
I got to get my PhD.
I'll be ready in seven to 10.
And I'm like you don'tunderstand, you're not hearing
me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I have to do this.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Right, right, I don't have a right to do this right
now, and so it took me a fewmonths to to surrender and
embrace what was happening.
And one of my friends I wastrying to enroll in Paul's class
and she looked at me and saidwell, why don't you coach me?
And I was like me, Me, Me.
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And oh yeah, she goes, I wantyou to coach me.
I'm like, oh, okay.
I said you know, like,hesitantly, it's like okay, I
guess this, I guess this is thenext spot.
And so I started coaching herand would run to Paul, you know,
after every session, like shesaid this, I said this, she said
I had no idea what I was doing.
And then, about six to eightmonths of this, I started
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realizing I do know what I'mdoing and and I embraced my
mission and really startedunderstanding that this was what
I was made for.
It was shocking and it took metime to say yes, but when I did
say yes, I was practicingcoaching two people and within
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that realization that yes, Imeant to do it, I had 20 clients
within a week.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm sure yeah.
So tell us a bit about theWheel of Fear and the Wheel of
Freedom.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, that is also a download, because you know I'm
not smart enough to come up withthat myself, so right, so the
Wheel of Fear is that old you isstill inside you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, you know, got to be humble, right, right, no,
right.
So really it was when I wasworking with my clients.
I started noticing all thesethings and so I started keeping
track of them and startedbuilding a program, not really
knowing what I was doing, untilit became something.
And what it became is the wheelof fear and the wheel of
freedom.
And the wheel of fear is thatthing that stops you and wants
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to keep you safe from any.
What I call stretchers coulddies anything that you're in,
anything in the unknown Right.
And so when people identifytheir core fear because I
believe we all have one corefear when you identify that core
fear and you start seeing howit operates on the wheel of fear
because it's just a method,it's just a way to to see how it
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works, it's just mapping fear.
Once you see that one, you can'tunsee it.
But two, it explains all ofyour decisions.
It explains all the reasons yousaid no and yes and got
divorced and didn't get divorced, and got married and didn't get
married, or went to college anddidn't go to college, or took
that job or left that job.
It makes sense of everything.
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And the other thing it does isit takes away the shame of all
your past decisions, all yourpoor you know, things that
you're embarrassed by, thingsthat you're ashamed of, things
that you're, you know, don'twant anyone to know about you.
It takes all of that away,because what happens is you
start seeing that the reasonthat that action happened, the
reason that you judge, thereason that you procrastinated,
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the reason that you, the reasonthat you got overwhelmed, is all
stemming from fear.
And so they're not characterflaws, they're not identity
markers, they're not something'swrong with you, it's literally
fear.
And once you can see how yourfear activates, then everything
starts making sense, like youstart seeing everything
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differently.
You know, neuroscience says, asyou know, that the one way to
change your life, the only wayto change it, is changing your
perception.
And so when you have the modelof the wheel of fear and the
wheel of freedom, you see thetwo perceptions.
Well, you're either lookingthrough the wheel of freedom or
you're looking through the wheelof fear.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Your choice the glass is half empty or the glass is
half full.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Your choice.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Your choice.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right.
And this is the deal.
Once you start seeing yourwheel of fear, once you
understand what it is and youclaim it, then you start seeing
it everywhere and everyone else.
So your level of empathy rises,your compassion rises.
Right, they're not a jerkanymore, they're just somebody
driven by fear.
They're not being mean to you,even though they may be doing
something that you don't approveof.
You understand what's behind it.
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It's no longer about you.
So there's so much freedom andso much power and so much choice
in understanding how powerfulpowerful you really are and how,
in freedom, life can look, beexperienced.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So the spiritual stuff, you know some people
might not get that and I lovethis like spiritual practitioner
, degree and idea, so like what?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
is your.
I went to ministerial schoolfor a year too, so I, I, I like
that.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I mean not every listener is going to be down
with that, but I mean there'ssuch a space for it.
So, like, how do you integratethat now Like religious,
spiritual view of the world?
What is it?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, I like to think of it.
As you know, if God madeeverything which God, let's say
God made everything Right, andpart of our part of our
neurobiology is fear Fear ispart and parcel baked into us
Then that also is God Right.
And I do say that fear loves us.
Yeah, fear is just aunderdeveloped tool that doesn't
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know who you are and doesn'tknow what you're capable of, and
is still treating you like aseven-year-old or a 15-year-old
or a two-year-old, right, it'sjust treating you as you were in
the past, when you didn't havethe courage, the skills, the
fortitude, the practice tobecome who you're meant to be,
right.
So, from a spiritualperspective, I always work on
every problem from a spiritualperspective and a human
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perspective, human reality, ie,let's work on the fear and then
spiritual truth.
What is your foundational beliefthat keeps on?
You know where is it coming?
Is it coming from fear offreedom?
So same with value.
So I'll just give you a quickexample Integrity.
I don't know anybody thatwouldn't love to be called
integrous, right, like, oh, youjust have so much integrity,
right, but integrity and fear isrigid.
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There's no negotiation, there'sno renegotiation.
You said you were going to doit and you're going to do it no
matter what, because you saidyou're going to do it even
though it doesn't fit youanymore, it's not aligned with
you anymore, it doesn't feelgood anymore, you can't
renegotiate.
Well, that's in fear, integrityand fear.
I have integrity, well,fear-based integrity.
Or you can have integrity andfreedom, which means you can
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renegotiate.
It means you can haveconversations.
So every value and everyspiritual belief, filter through
that wheel of fear, filterthrough that wheel of freedom,
and you're going to get verydifferent answers.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, very rule-bound is the behavioral idea there.
So I love your, your tagline,which is live the life your soul
intended.
Yeah, if you, if you can't seeronda is giving us a a little uh
shot out there joy joy, littlejoy joy.
So live the life your soulintended.
That's right.
Give me a success story aroundthat, like what, where'd that
come from?
Or sort of how, where thattagline?
A success story, where thatreally uh, embodies that, that
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tagline well, the, the tag thatreally embodies that tagline.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, the tagline definitely came from God.
So did fearless living.
So you know like I get all mytitles from the big guy.
And so live the life you're sointended.
My role in this world and myjob in this world, for myself
and for anyone who works with me, works at fearless living, is
to live the life you're sointended.
What are you here to do?
What is your purpose?
What are you made for?
Right, like?
What is it that you're notexhibiting, not expressing?
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So I have everything from.
I just met with a client theother day who is also actually
one of my coaches, and she ownedher own business.
She was a small businessentrepreneur.
She hated her business.
She was really frustrated, butshe had a belief that she had to
keep going because she hadinvestors and she didn't want to
let her investors down.
Right, so she just kept plowingthrough.
Well, when she understood herwheel of fear, she was able to
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understand how to shift herbusiness model.
So, one, that she liked it more.
But two, she started buildingher business into a place where
she could sell it.
And now?
So she sold her business andthen she started coaching
entrepreneurs for exit plans fortheir businesses.
And now she's working.
I just had a conversation withher.
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It's so exciting she's nowworking with high net wealth
individuals on helping themidentify their wheel of fear and
will freedom, because peoplewho are making 50 million and a
hundred million dollars alsohave fear.
They sure do, and so she'sactually coaching those people
and it's so exciting.
And here she was.
She was having troubles withher marriage, she was in a
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business she didn't love and nowshe and her husband, they
bought a dream home.
They never thought they coulddo it, so they're living where
they want to live.
She's painting, I mean she'sliving.
I mean she's living.
I mean, if you talk to her, ifyou see her, she is just a
shining star.
So that is one example, butthere's other examples, so many
people.
I'll give another beautifulexample.
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There was a man who foundfearless living and he loved it.
He loved fearless living, heloved the wheels, he understood
it.
And he was divorced and hethought to himself well, wait a
minute, what if the problem withme and my wife was this, with
the Wheel of Fear and Wheel ofFreedom?
So he called his wife, hisex-wife, and told her about the
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wheels.
She agreed to do them with him.
She agreed to do FearlessLiving with him.
And they are two that gotremarried and they are the two
giddiest, happiest couple.
I mean, when I have live events, sometimes they come and they
like, sit in the front row andthey will always say we're
married because of you Fearlessliving.
Without fearless living, wewould not be married, and I've
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heard that over and over andover again.
We would not be married withoutfearless living.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
That is so powerful?
No-transcript.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm a great reader.
I'm a great reader and I'm alsoa great reader.
I believe in anchoring myselfeach and every day in spiritual
truth, so I'm always reading aspiritual book, but I'm also
always reading a neurosciencebook or a psychology book or
something.
I'm an eager learner, right,I'm a growth girl all the way,
so I'm always including myselfin my own work, including myself
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in my own work, and one of themost honest things that I do
each and every day, the thing Ipractice the most is living on
my wheel of freedom and myessential nature on my wheel of
freedom.
Cause the wheel of fear and thewheel of freedom both have four
spokes, and one of the spokeson the wheel of freedom is your
essential nature, and mine isauthenticity.
So my greatest practice is am Ibeing authentic right now?
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And that my friend greatestpractice is am I being authentic
right?
now, and that my friend, theanswer is not always yes, Right,
because I also have fear.
Stressors can die fears.
So one of the greatestpractices I do and of course I
pray, I meditate, I connect withmy you know, with my friends
and connect.
I really big connector ofstaying connected because I can
isolate really easy and fear.
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So I've got to keep thoseconnections going, keep those
friends travel, see them, themseeing me.
So really staying close tofamily and friends is also
really important.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I mean being holistic, and in all of that I
mean you really embodyresilience.
I mean I think you know it'scurious, right, because, like 12
year old, here you are readingabout fear and your identity.
You know, 14 year old, thisreal traumatic experience and
then this rest of the lifetimeto kind of undo a lot of this,
which is the work that we do,right?
That is, that is this work.
So what advice would you sayyou have for some of our
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listeners that are maybe goingthrough something traumatic?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well, the first thing I want to say is and I wish you
could, you know, melt this intoyour bones and have it in your
marrow is there's nothing wrongwith you, it's just fear.
There is nothing wrong with you, it's just fear.
There's nothing wrong with you,it's just fear.
And if you're going through atraumatic event right now, if
you're going through somethinghorrific and horrible, I ask you
to give your to see yourinnocence.
Innocence is one of the coreskills that we we follow.
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The number one value that Ihave is seeing your innocence
and being able to forgiveyourself, forgive whoever the
perpetrator is and, of course,don't have to have lunch with
them.
And you're not ready to forgive, that's okay too, but being
willing to see that you knowwhat, right here and right now,
you have choice and that is sopowerful, so you do not have to
be a victim of yourcircumstances.
You can have a little self-pityparty, go for it, right, and
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you don not have to be a victimof your circumstances.
You can have a little self-pityparty, go for it, right, and
you don't have to forget it.
But you do have to rise aboveit, and you know this.
You've read the books you'veseen, you know you've read the
cards.
But just know there's nothingwrong with you, it's just fear.
And once you see that, like myfather killed my mother because
of fear, my mother stayed withmy father because of fear.
Right killed my mother becauseof fear.
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My mother stayed with my fatherbecause of fear.
Right I stayed stuck for almost20 years because of fear.
It wasn't that I was stupid orfailure or you know a lousy
person, I just didn't know howto get out of the box of fear.
And my father didn't have theemotional understanding to get
out of it.
He just knew that he wanted toget rid of this thing that made
him afraid.
So he had to kill my mother.
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So just know that there'snothing wrong with you.
There's nothing wrong with you,it's just fear.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I love that.
You know what I always say noone's ever died from fear.
Well, I guess we said it inanxiety.
I mean I guess in your exampleperhaps there is some death in
that in terms of anxiety andpeople often will use those
synonymously.
But you know, anxiety itselfkind of holds people back from
what they want to do.
And that's this wheel of fearkind of helps people figure that
out.
That anxiety alone won't, youwon't die.
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It's not like a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's right.
And I've had clients and ofcourse I'm not a doctor, I'm not
a medical profession but I'vehad clients who have gotten off
their anxiety medication becausenow they understood what was
happening to them and they wereable to process it differently.
And again, I'm not suggestingthat at all.
Yet there is things as, as youknow, working with Dr Pete,
things that you can do toactually have a different
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relationship with your anxiety.
And I love when you say goodcause, you're alive.
It's like yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, woo hoo to anxiety, which said nobody, but
you know what you got to do,that you know you can't let.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You can't let that heckler get there.
I know you and I could probablytalk forever, but now and it's
fearlesslivingorg forward slashrisk R-I-S-K.
And it is a three video series,15 minutes only each.
At the end of video three, Iactually explained the wheel of
fear.
But this exercise is to helpyou overcome procrastination, to
start seeing what is stoppingyou from those goals and dreams,
but, more importantly, it'sshowing you how to start moving
forward.
It's one of my clients' very,very favorite exercises.
I have companies use thisinternally.
They're saying is that astretch risk or die?
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So it's a different way to talkabout what you're about to do.
Rather than yes or no, black orwhite, right or wrong, instead
it's stretch risk or die.
So go fearlesslivingorg forward, slash risk, r-i-s-k.
And it's got all the worksheets, the workbook, everything you
need.
Super easy, 45 minutes of yourlife.
I promise it will change yourlife.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Amazing and to get over procrastination, because I
know every one of my clientscould benefit from that.
So thank you, rhonda, forsharing that free resource and
for just being here today withyour really deeply personal
story.
I know that you're going tocontinue to inspire lots and
lots of people, so thanks,thanks again, rhonda, I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Thank you, dr Pete, be fearless.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Be fearless, all right.
So, listeners, thanks fortuning in today.
As always, if you have a showtopic, head over to
officialdrpetecom and and let usknow what you'd like to hear
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from us, because we want to hearfrom you.
So until then, until we see younext week, spread a little
kindness and stay well you.
Hello and welcome back to On Air with Dr Pete.
I'm your host, dr Pete Economo,and I'm thrilled that you're
back again listening and tuningin.
As you know, we've got somegreat guests and today
especially, is another one ofthose examples another
incredible guest.
The goal of this podcast is tobe uplifting and inspiring.
Stories understand how tomanage life.
(00:37):
All these different topics sortof give you the how-to, and
today we have a true story ofresilience and it's my hope that
her story will inspire you tokeep moving through whatever
challenges you might be facing.
Please welcome Rhonda Brittonto the show today.
She is a master coach, an EmmyAward winner, a best-selling
author, and she's the founder ofthe Fearless Living Institute
(01:01):
Changing lives.
Since 1995, rhonda has beennamed America's favorite life
coach and once you hear herstory you're going to understand
why.
So thank you for being here,rhonda, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Thank you, dr Pete, I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, you really have been so open and honest about
sharing your own personal story.
So for the listeners that arejust listening to you and being
introduced for the first time,tell us a bit about your
background.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I would be happy to, and I wasn't always open and
available because I was scaredto talk about it.
In the beginning I was nervous,as can be, but once I started
doing it and really saw how muchit supported people, it gave me
the courage to keep sharing it.
So here I am.
So I believe that the worst dayof our lives actually contain a
seat of our destiny, and sowhat you're referring to is the
(01:46):
worst day of my life, right?
And I was 14 years old and Igrew up in a little tiny town in
upper Michigan 365 inches ofsnow a year, two restaurants,
douglas House, buffet Hotel andBig Boy no McDonald's.
We had to go an hour and a halffor that.
And my parents were recentlyseparated and it was Father's
(02:08):
Day, so my father was comingover to take us to Sunday brunch
, which was a big deal.
So I'm in my mom's room.
She's puffing up her Behabhairdo and putting on her blue
lash ad on her rose colorlipstick, and my two sisters are
fighting it out in our onebathroom and my dad walks in the
back.
Come on, girls, come on,because that's what dads do,
right, that's what they do, sothat's what they do, and so me
(02:28):
and my mom start walking out mysister's still fighting and out
in the bathroom, and as we walkoutside it's starting to
sprinkle.
So my dad says let me get mycoat from the car Now.
This coat is a tan Naga hideleisure suit coat, so if you're
old enough to remember, thosewere hot looking coats.
Yes, and so as he opens thattrunk to get his coat, I noticed
(02:49):
out of the corner of my eyethat he is not grabbing a coat,
but he is grabbing a gun.
And he starts yelling at mymother you made me do this, you
made me do this.
And he fires and I startscreaming what are you doing,
dad?
What are you doing, dad?
What are you doing?
And he cocks the gun for asecond time, points it at me and
(03:09):
I believe I'm next, and heblinks and I blink.
He blinks, I blink, and mymother, with her last literal,
last breath, screams out no,don't yeah my father, realizing
my mother is still alive, takesthat bullet intended for me and
shoots my mother second time.
It goes through her abdomen,out her back, lands in the car
horn and for the next 20 minutesall I hear is the horn right
(03:34):
the horn, and then my fathercocks the gun a third time,
points it to his head and fires.
And so in a matter of twominutes, I was a sole witness of
watching my father murder mymother and commit suicide in
front of me.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
At 14 years old.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
At 14 years old, and now I don't know how you'd
respond, but I blamed myselfbecause I was the only one
physically out there that couldhave changed it right.
I didn't jump in front of thegun, I didn't kick my father in
the shins, I didn't grab therifle from his hand right, nope,
nope.
I just stood screaming stop,daddy, stop.
And from that moment I like tothink of it as I split in two,
(04:12):
and I think many people canrelate to that right the outside
ronda and the inside ronda.
And the outside ronda was I'mfine, I'm fine, straight a
student, full ride to collegeclass president, I, I'm fine,
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good,I'm good, good, good, good, good
.
And inside though, self-hatred,self-deprecation, low
self-confidence, self-esteem,believing that this was all my
(04:34):
fault.
And if you watch your motherdie, you don't get to be happy.
That's off the table, right offthe table.
So for the next years I foundalcohol in college.
So I started drinking, numbedthe pain a little bit Right, and
from my drinking I got threeDUIs.
I tried to kill myself threetimes, oh man.
And it was that third suicideattempt that really made me
(04:56):
realize I'm not very good atkilling myself.
And it also made me realizethat if I'm not dying because
that's what I wanted, then theremust be a reason that I'm alive
Now.
During those years of alcoholand DUIs and suicide attempts, I
was also a self-help junkie.
I was going to therapy andreading books and going to
workshops.
I mean, I read my firstself-help book when I was 12.
(05:18):
So you know, I know right.
And you're not going to believethe title.
It was.
Why am I afraid to tell you whoI am?
Can you believe it?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
At 12 years old?
Yeah, no.
At 12 years old why am I afraidCut from a different?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
cloth no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I deemed not crazy, right?
So I got to go home, and so I'mhome, and, um, I just realized,
after all the work I'd done onmyself, here I was again and I
have to start over.
I have to start over.
And so I thought to myself whatdo kindergartners do?
Well, they get a calendar andgold stars.
(06:14):
Back to the basics.
So I went to, got a calendarand gold stars and for the next
30 days I still have thiscalendar.
By the way, I put a gold staron any time I did anything good
in any way, shape or form.
And we're talking about gettingmad and not breaking anything.
That's where I was at the time,like whoa, look at me, I didn't
break anything.
Yay me Right.
But at the end of right yeah,movement forward, movement
(06:37):
forward.
And so, at the end of 30 days,I had a calendar filled with
gold stars, nice, and that gaveme hope and kept me going.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So this transition to your passion of helping others
I'm imagining now, do you stilluse calendars and gold stars?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I use something called acknowledgement.
So then, calendar gold starseven though sometimes my clients
do use calendar gold stars, butwhat I've turned it into is
something calledacknowledgements, and I've built
on it.
So acknowledgements are today,I acknowledge myself for and
you're acknowledging yourselffor a little stretch, risk or
die that you've taken that day,any movement forward, I don't
(07:14):
care how long it lasts, I don'tcare if it's a second, I don't
care if you thought it anddidn't do it, but anything that
is any different than theprevious time before.
And you are going toacknowledge the heck out of
yourself because, as you know,people do not give themselves
credit for their growth.
They only keep track of howthey're failing.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, especially high achievers, and with your trauma
, I mean I'm just if we, youknow, we're calling it what it
is and so you know that's reallyan inspirational story, because
at 14, there's not a lot ofpeople that would be able to go
through that.
You know, and and and findpurpose, you know, in that pain,
which really it seems to have,like intentionally, sort of
propelled you further andforward.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
No, I was gonna say.
I can see in hindsight thatthis was all right.
This is all divinely guidedright, like it's like.
Of course that had to happen.
Of course I had to go throughfear and of course the first
book I read was why Am I Afraidto Tell you who I Am?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, we keep talking about fear, so that's what I'm
trying to like.
So I'm wondering you know, howdid you allow yourself to
believe that you could live afearless life even after that
type of trauma?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, well, that's a really good question, because I
actually this is in my late 20sI quit drinking, so that was the
first good step.
Right Then I forgave my fatherand my mother and myself for
that day, because that was big,I had to do that work and that
was really freeing.
And I at the time this is in myearly 30s I had a little PR
(08:41):
company and I worked with soloentrepreneurs and one of my solo
entrepreneurs was the first,one of the very first life
coaches and he would tell me allthe time you're going to be a
better coach than me.
And I was like have youforgotten about the three DUIs,
three suicide attempts and thealcoholism?
Have you forgotten that?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Because I don't think anybody wants you were still
judging yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Absolutely.
I mean, who am I?
I really thought at that timethat I was still my past right.
I had done a lot of work onmyself, but I still didn't think
that I had a right or could getbeyond that, because everybody
would be like, well, you'retrying to kill yourself, why am
I going to listen to you, why doyou have anything?
And now I was going to schoolto become a spiritual
practitioner.
It was a four-year program butI didn't have the goal to
(09:24):
actually have clients because,again, I can't have clients
right, and so are you up forsome woo-woo.
Dr Pete, I love it.
You love woo-woo.
You're good with woo-woo, okay,so I am at his office working
with my client and we'rebrainstorming a new workshop
he's going to do, and I'msitting on the couch and he's at
the board, he's writing down,writing down, writing down,
(09:45):
writing down, right, and we'rejust working our way off,
working, working, working, andthen all of a sudden, out of the
corner of my eye, I see a cloudcome down from the ceiling with
a book on it, and the book goeslike this, shuts and goes back
into the ceiling.
And I'm like what the hay Iturn, I'm like, I'm like that
(10:07):
can't be for me.
I mean, that was my firstresponse.
That can't be for me.
I turn around to see if somebodyhad walked in that it must be
for, and it accidentally, like Ihit me right, I got splashed
from the puddle right, like it's, like it can't be me.
And so I look and there'snobody there.
And so then I look over at Paul, my client, one of the first
coaches, and he's still talking.
He has no idea what's happening.
And so I'm like what the heck?
(10:29):
And I thank God.
The next day I had anappointment with my minister in
the spiritual practitionerprogram and I'm like, okay, the
ceiling came down, the cloudcame out of the ceiling with the
book and the book went and itanswered.
Because what happened with thatdownload is I?
every question I'd ever had wasanswered yeah I knew everything,
(10:50):
about everything I'd ever beenwanting to know.
And not only that, um, it toldme.
Now I must go and teach it wowokay.
And I said to my, said this tomy minister, and I was like,
well, yeah, I'll be ready.
Um, like, I have to finish mybachelor's because I left with
three classes left and I got toget my master's, get my PhD, and
then I'll write a book.
And she goes Rhonda, you gotthe call, you're ready.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm like no, you seem to have forgotten.
I've got three classes.
I got to get my master's.
I got to get my PhD.
I'll be ready in seven to 10.
And I'm like you don'tunderstand, you're not hearing
me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I have to do this.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Right, right, I don't have a right to do this right
now, and so it took me a fewmonths to to surrender and
embrace what was happening.
And one of my friends I wastrying to enroll in Paul's class
and she looked at me and saidwell, why don't you coach me?
And I was like me, Me, Me.
(11:49):
And oh yeah, she goes, I wantyou to coach me.
I'm like, oh, okay.
I said you know, like,hesitantly, it's like okay, I
guess this, I guess this is thenext spot.
And so I started coaching herand would run to Paul, you know,
after every session, like shesaid this, I said this, she said
I had no idea what I was doing.
And then, about six to eightmonths of this, I started
(12:10):
realizing I do know what I'mdoing and and I embraced my
mission and really startedunderstanding that this was what
I was made for.
It was shocking and it took metime to say yes, but when I did
say yes, I was practicingcoaching two people and within
(12:32):
that realization that yes, Imeant to do it, I had 20 clients
within a week.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm sure yeah.
So tell us a bit about theWheel of Fear and the Wheel of
Freedom.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, that is also a download, because you know I'm
not smart enough to come up withthat myself, so right, so the
Wheel of Fear is that old you isstill inside you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, you know, got to be humble, right, right, no,
right.
So really it was when I wasworking with my clients.
I started noticing all thesethings and so I started keeping
track of them and startedbuilding a program, not really
knowing what I was doing, untilit became something.
And what it became is the wheelof fear and the wheel of
freedom.
And the wheel of fear is thatthing that stops you and wants
(13:11):
to keep you safe from any.
What I call stretchers coulddies anything that you're in,
anything in the unknown Right.
And so when people identifytheir core fear because I
believe we all have one corefear when you identify that core
fear and you start seeing howit operates on the wheel of fear
because it's just a method,it's just a way to to see how it
(13:31):
works, it's just mapping fear.
Once you see that one, you can'tunsee it.
But two, it explains all ofyour decisions.
It explains all the reasons yousaid no and yes and got
divorced and didn't get divorced, and got married and didn't get
married, or went to college anddidn't go to college, or took
that job or left that job.
It makes sense of everything.
(13:52):
And the other thing it does isit takes away the shame of all
your past decisions, all yourpoor you know, things that
you're embarrassed by, thingsthat you're ashamed of, things
that you're, you know, don'twant anyone to know about you.
It takes all of that away,because what happens is you
start seeing that the reasonthat that action happened, the
reason that you judge, thereason that you procrastinated,
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the reason that you, the reasonthat you got overwhelmed, is all
stemming from fear.
And so they're not characterflaws, they're not identity
markers, they're not something'swrong with you, it's literally
fear.
And once you can see how yourfear activates, then everything
starts making sense, like youstart seeing everything
(14:34):
differently.
You know, neuroscience says, asyou know, that the one way to
change your life, the only wayto change it, is changing your
perception.
And so when you have the modelof the wheel of fear and the
wheel of freedom, you see thetwo perceptions.
Well, you're either lookingthrough the wheel of freedom or
you're looking through the wheelof fear.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Your choice the glass is half empty or the glass is
half full.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Your choice.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Your choice.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right.
And this is the deal.
Once you start seeing yourwheel of fear, once you
understand what it is and youclaim it, then you start seeing
it everywhere and everyone else.
So your level of empathy rises,your compassion rises.
Right, they're not a jerkanymore, they're just somebody
driven by fear.
They're not being mean to you,even though they may be doing
something that you don't approveof.
You understand what's behind it.
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It's no longer about you.
So there's so much freedom andso much power and so much choice
in understanding how powerfulpowerful you really are and how,
in freedom, life can look, beexperienced.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So the spiritual stuff, you know some people
might not get that and I lovethis like spiritual practitioner
, degree and idea, so like what?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
is your.
I went to ministerial schoolfor a year too, so I, I, I like
that.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I mean not every listener is going to be down
with that, but I mean there'ssuch a space for it.
So, like, how do you integratethat now Like religious,
spiritual view of the world?
What is it?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, I like to think of it.
As you know, if God madeeverything which God, let's say
God made everything Right, andpart of our part of our
neurobiology is fear Fear ispart and parcel baked into us
Then that also is God Right.
And I do say that fear loves us.
Yeah, fear is just aunderdeveloped tool that doesn't
(16:11):
know who you are and doesn'tknow what you're capable of, and
is still treating you like aseven-year-old or a 15-year-old
or a two-year-old, right, it'sjust treating you as you were in
the past, when you didn't havethe courage, the skills, the
fortitude, the practice tobecome who you're meant to be,
right.
So, from a spiritualperspective, I always work on
every problem from a spiritualperspective and a human
(16:34):
perspective, human reality, ie,let's work on the fear and then
spiritual truth.
What is your foundational beliefthat keeps on?
You know where is it coming?
Is it coming from fear offreedom?
So same with value.
So I'll just give you a quickexample Integrity.
I don't know anybody thatwouldn't love to be called
integrous, right, like, oh, youjust have so much integrity,
right, but integrity and fear isrigid.
(16:57):
There's no negotiation, there'sno renegotiation.
You said you were going to doit and you're going to do it no
matter what, because you saidyou're going to do it even
though it doesn't fit youanymore, it's not aligned with
you anymore, it doesn't feelgood anymore, you can't
renegotiate.
Well, that's in fear, integrityand fear.
I have integrity, well,fear-based integrity.
Or you can have integrity andfreedom, which means you can
(17:19):
renegotiate.
It means you can haveconversations.
So every value and everyspiritual belief, filter through
that wheel of fear, filterthrough that wheel of freedom,
and you're going to get verydifferent answers.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, very rule-bound is the behavioral idea there.
So I love your, your tagline,which is live the life your soul
intended.
Yeah, if you, if you can't seeronda is giving us a a little uh
shot out there joy joy, littlejoy joy.
So live the life your soulintended.
That's right.
Give me a success story aroundthat, like what, where'd that
come from?
Or sort of how, where thattagline?
A success story, where thatreally uh, embodies that, that
(17:56):
tagline well, the, the tag thatreally embodies that tagline.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, the tagline definitely came from God.
So did fearless living.
So you know like I get all mytitles from the big guy.
And so live the life you're sointended.
My role in this world and myjob in this world, for myself
and for anyone who works with me, works at fearless living, is
to live the life you're sointended.
What are you here to do?
What is your purpose?
What are you made for?
Right, like?
What is it that you're notexhibiting, not expressing?
(18:22):
So I have everything from.
I just met with a client theother day who is also actually
one of my coaches, and she ownedher own business.
She was a small businessentrepreneur.
She hated her business.
She was really frustrated, butshe had a belief that she had to
keep going because she hadinvestors and she didn't want to
let her investors down.
Right, so she just kept plowingthrough.
Well, when she understood herwheel of fear, she was able to
(18:44):
understand how to shift herbusiness model.
So, one, that she liked it more.
But two, she started buildingher business into a place where
she could sell it.
And now?
So she sold her business andthen she started coaching
entrepreneurs for exit plans fortheir businesses.
And now she's working.
I just had a conversation withher.
(19:04):
It's so exciting she's nowworking with high net wealth
individuals on helping themidentify their wheel of fear and
will freedom, because peoplewho are making 50 million and a
hundred million dollars alsohave fear.
They sure do, and so she'sactually coaching those people
and it's so exciting.
And here she was.
She was having troubles withher marriage, she was in a
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business she didn't love and nowshe and her husband, they
bought a dream home.
They never thought they coulddo it, so they're living where
they want to live.
She's painting, I mean she'sliving.
I mean she's living.
I mean, if you talk to her, ifyou see her, she is just a
shining star.
So that is one example, butthere's other examples, so many
people.
I'll give another beautifulexample.
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There was a man who foundfearless living and he loved it.
He loved fearless living, heloved the wheels, he understood
it.
And he was divorced and hethought to himself well, wait a
minute, what if the problem withme and my wife was this, with
the Wheel of Fear and Wheel ofFreedom?
So he called his wife, hisex-wife, and told her about the
(20:05):
wheels.
She agreed to do them with him.
She agreed to do FearlessLiving with him.
And they are two that gotremarried and they are the two
giddiest, happiest couple.
I mean, when I have live events, sometimes they come and they
like, sit in the front row andthey will always say we're
married because of you Fearlessliving.
Without fearless living, wewould not be married, and I've
(20:26):
heard that over and over andover again.
We would not be married withoutfearless living.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
That is so powerful?
No-transcript.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm a great reader.
I'm a great reader and I'm alsoa great reader.
I believe in anchoring myselfeach and every day in spiritual
truth, so I'm always reading aspiritual book, but I'm also
always reading a neurosciencebook or a psychology book or
something.
I'm an eager learner, right,I'm a growth girl all the way,
so I'm always including myselfin my own work, including myself
(21:17):
in my own work, and one of themost honest things that I do
each and every day, the thing Ipractice the most is living on
my wheel of freedom and myessential nature on my wheel of
freedom.
Cause the wheel of fear and thewheel of freedom both have four
spokes, and one of the spokeson the wheel of freedom is your
essential nature, and mine isauthenticity.
So my greatest practice is am Ibeing authentic right now?
(21:37):
And that my friend greatestpractice is am I being authentic
right?
now, and that my friend, theanswer is not always yes, Right,
because I also have fear.
Stressors can die fears.
So one of the greatestpractices I do and of course I
pray, I meditate, I connect withmy you know, with my friends
and connect.
I really big connector ofstaying connected because I can
isolate really easy and fear.
(21:58):
So I've got to keep thoseconnections going, keep those
friends travel, see them, themseeing me.
So really staying close tofamily and friends is also
really important.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I mean being holistic, and in all of that I
mean you really embodyresilience.
I mean I think you know it'scurious, right, because, like 12
year old, here you are readingabout fear and your identity.
You know, 14 year old, thisreal traumatic experience and
then this rest of the lifetimeto kind of undo a lot of this,
which is the work that we do,right?
That is, that is this work.
So what advice would you sayyou have for some of our
(22:30):
listeners that are maybe goingthrough something traumatic?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well, the first thing I want to say is and I wish you
could, you know, melt this intoyour bones and have it in your
marrow is there's nothing wrongwith you, it's just fear.
There is nothing wrong with you, it's just fear.
There's nothing wrong with you,it's just fear.
And if you're going through atraumatic event right now, if
you're going through somethinghorrific and horrible, I ask you
to give your to see yourinnocence.
Innocence is one of the coreskills that we we follow.
(22:54):
The number one value that Ihave is seeing your innocence
and being able to forgiveyourself, forgive whoever the
perpetrator is and, of course,don't have to have lunch with
them.
And you're not ready to forgive, that's okay too, but being
willing to see that you knowwhat, right here and right now,
you have choice and that is sopowerful, so you do not have to
be a victim of yourcircumstances.
You can have a little self-pityparty, go for it, right, and
(23:17):
you don not have to be a victimof your circumstances.
You can have a little self-pityparty, go for it, right, and
you don't have to forget it.
But you do have to rise aboveit, and you know this.
You've read the books you'veseen, you know you've read the
cards.
But just know there's nothingwrong with you, it's just fear.
And once you see that, like myfather killed my mother because
of fear, my mother stayed withmy father because of fear.
Right killed my mother becauseof fear.
(23:38):
My mother stayed with my fatherbecause of fear.
Right I stayed stuck for almost20 years because of fear.
It wasn't that I was stupid orfailure or you know a lousy
person, I just didn't know howto get out of the box of fear.
And my father didn't have theemotional understanding to get
out of it.
He just knew that he wanted toget rid of this thing that made
him afraid.
So he had to kill my mother.
(23:58):
So just know that there'snothing wrong with you.
There's nothing wrong with you,it's just fear.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I love that.
You know what I always say noone's ever died from fear.
Well, I guess we said it inanxiety.
I mean I guess in your exampleperhaps there is some death in
that in terms of anxiety andpeople often will use those
synonymously.
But you know, anxiety itselfkind of holds people back from
what they want to do.
And that's this wheel of fearkind of helps people figure that
out.
That anxiety alone won't, youwon't die.
(24:26):
It's not like a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's right.
And I've had clients and ofcourse I'm not a doctor, I'm not
a medical profession but I'vehad clients who have gotten off
their anxiety medication becausenow they understood what was
happening to them and they wereable to process it differently.
And again, I'm not suggestingthat at all.
Yet there is things as, as youknow, working with Dr Pete,
things that you can do toactually have a different
(24:49):
relationship with your anxiety.
And I love when you say goodcause, you're alive.
It's like yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, woo hoo to anxiety, which said nobody, but
you know what you got to do,that you know you can't let.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You can't let that heckler get there.
I know you and I could probablytalk forever, but now and it's
fearlesslivingorg forward slashrisk R-I-S-K.
And it is a three video series,15 minutes only each.
At the end of video three, Iactually explained the wheel of
fear.
But this exercise is to helpyou overcome procrastination, to
start seeing what is stoppingyou from those goals and dreams,
but, more importantly, it'sshowing you how to start moving
forward.
It's one of my clients' very,very favorite exercises.
I have companies use thisinternally.
They're saying is that astretch risk or die?
(25:50):
So it's a different way to talkabout what you're about to do.
Rather than yes or no, black orwhite, right or wrong, instead
it's stretch risk or die.
So go fearlesslivingorg forward, slash risk, r-i-s-k.
And it's got all the worksheets, the workbook, everything you
need.
Super easy, 45 minutes of yourlife.
I promise it will change yourlife.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Amazing and to get over procrastination, because I
know every one of my clientscould benefit from that.
So thank you, rhonda, forsharing that free resource and
for just being here today withyour really deeply personal
story.
I know that you're going tocontinue to inspire lots and
lots of people, so thanks,thanks again, rhonda, I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Thank you, dr Pete, be fearless.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Be fearless, all right.
So, listeners, thanks fortuning in today.
As always, if you have a showtopic, head over to
officialdrpetecom and and let usknow what you'd like to hear
(26:50):
from us, because we want to hearfrom you.
So until then, until we see younext week, spread a little
kindness and stay well you.
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