#40: Vanessa Barrios - Authenticity in Content Creation, Dealing with Haters, and Toxic Relationships - One Thousand Gurus Podcast

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J.R. (00:00):
Hello everyone, my lovely listeners, Welcome back to
another fun episode of 1000Gurus with me, your host, JR
Yonacruz.
So today's guest is VanessaBarrios.
Vanessa is a dynamic socialmedia content creator who has
spent the last two yearsbuilding an engaged community of
over 300,000 followers acrossplatforms.
A recent graduate of San DiegoState University with a
bachelor's in businessadministration, Vanessa is not

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only a rising Twitch streamerand aspiring ASMRtist, but also
a dedicated yogi.
Her content blends humor,comfort and creativity, offering
a refreshing presence in thedigital world.
Whether she's live on Twitch,creating relaxing ASMR videos or
sharing moments from herwellness journey, Vanessa brings
authenticity and passion toeverything she does.
It was so much fun to haveVanessa on the show.
We actually never talked beforethis recording, as we briefly

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met during Ozzy's firstrecording.
She has such a lively andenergetic personality pretty
much exactly what you see in hervideos, which is awesome, and
it's great because we talkedabout authenticity and content
creation a lot.
We chatted about her journey toeventually becoming a content
creator, breaking into the field, how to manage our well-being
and mental health, and how tocultivate healthy relationships

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and or leave toxic ones.
It was such an enjoyableconversation.
I'm sure you'll agree as youlisten to our silly banter back
and forth, even despite us onlybeing barely acquaintances.
So, without further ado, hopeyou enjoy this episode with
Vanessa Barrios.
Hello everyone and welcome backto 1000 Gurus.
Please welcome my guest,Vanessa.

Vanessa (01:27):
Hey, what's up.

J.R. (01:30):
What's up, JR?
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?

Vanessa (01:33):
I'm really really good, Really nervous right now, yeah,
no, you'll be great.

J.R. (01:37):
I have this inside joke where it's like it seems like
most of my guests are eitherFilipino email content creators
or gay dudes, and so youprobably fit a couple of those.

Vanessa (01:49):
Perfect, I fit so many categories right there.

J.R. (01:52):
So yeah, I think you're in good company.
Okay good, but yeah.
So, yeah, you and Hazi came upthe same time, so these are
separate weeks, but same daywe're obviously recording.
So you guys came up from SD andthen, like we talked about
about the traffic was crazy, buthappy you'll be here and happy
to you know no, I'm so excitedI'm like channeling my billy

(02:12):
eilish interviewing have youseen that my boyfriend was just
telling me about it, which islike a specific every single
year she'll do an interview toupdate her life oh, I'm like I'm
her right now.

Vanessa (02:21):
You are.

J.R. (02:22):
Why not?
That's cool, all right.
So let me go into how I knowyou.
So the guests already have yourbio and like your links and
everything.
So obviously I know that you'reHazi.
We actually just met on hisfirst episode recording and I
like I was telling you offscreen or a camera that I
randomly came across one of yourvideos which we will show but
and then afterwards I saw thevideo, it was funny.

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And then afterwards Iinterviewed Hazi and then I was
looking at your Instagram and Iwas like wait, I feel like I've
seen her before.

Vanessa (02:50):
And I was like oh, I definitely saw her before I was
in your workplace.

J.R. (02:52):
You were in my workplace Exactly, and so I thought it was
hilarious and I love thecontent that you put out.
It's super funny and I don'tknow this but persona and like
what you put out there, becausesometimes it's okay, this is
exactly who I am, but sometimesit's a character right and so
people do different ways.
So I'm curious to see what it'slike.
But let's show this video, solet me, if you don't mind
throwing it up this is the oneon the side of the road after my

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yoga class who hurt this woman?

Vanessa (03:21):
my yoga instructor did a bit early for me the look of
trauma just vomited and itwasn't pink, so I like the
little teardrop.

J.R. (03:34):
I don't really know how this day's gonna go going
through it not looking too goodokay so okay.
So so this is a real class,right it was.
Yeah, so what is it exactly?

Vanessa (03:46):
It was a yoga sculpt class.
I don't know if you've heard ofhot Pilates.

J.R. (03:50):
Okay, yeah.

Vanessa (03:51):
Have you ever taken a Pilates?

J.R. (03:52):
class.
I know what it looks like, butI have not taken one.

Vanessa (03:54):
Well, it's very intense , small movements to sculpt your
body, basically, except you'rein 90 degree heat, oh my god.
And also that night I didn'tsleep at all.

J.R. (04:05):
The night before.

Vanessa (04:09):
Yes, because my boyfriend was on a trip that I
wasn't invited to.

J.R. (04:11):
That would keep all of us up.

Vanessa (04:14):
And I couldn't sleep.
So I decided to make myselffeel more zen and take a yoga
class, and it just drained mywhole body.

J.R. (04:22):
I was very dehydrated.

Vanessa (04:24):
I went home and I took a three-hour nap.

J.R. (04:27):
That sounds like a heat stroke combined with dehydration
.
The lack of sleep and then theintense workout, the heat.

Vanessa (04:33):
Yes, I'm surprised I didn't die.

J.R. (04:36):
Yeah, you're stronger now after that.

Vanessa (04:38):
Oh definitely.

J.R. (04:39):
That's crazy.
Okay, anything else that you'reup to.
I know you're doing contentcreation and all that stuff.
What else are you up to?

Vanessa (04:46):
This is really funny.
I was just talking to Hossieabout the timing of this podcast
because currently I'm on abreak Like I haven't posted in a
week, which is really long inthe influencer world, because
the best thing you can do ispost every single day.
The best thing you can do ispost every single day,

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especially on tiktok or likeshort form content, like you
need to be on it and I just beenreally burnt out.
I really need a break and eventhough, like my content, like
that, it's very like in themoment and it comes naturally,
but lately it's not reallycoming so natural is this like
an artist block, or is it morejust like the pressure of having
to keep going?
it's both.

(05:28):
Actually, that's exactly whatI'm going through right now.
I'm trying to figure out, likethe big question is this
something I really, really wantto do, especially actually doing
it, because I'm realizing howmuch work is being put into it
and, on top of the amount ofwork, it's also the consistency

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of it.
I think that's really where Istruggle.
It's so hard and I'm not goingto lie, like there are times
when I only post like everyother day or every two days and
I feel like I'll perform prettywell because I have a fan base.
But I don't know.
I'm trying to figure it outright now.

J.R. (06:09):
Yeah, definitely it's tough.

Vanessa (06:11):
Yeah.

J.R. (06:12):
Yeah, I feel it.
I mean like we were talkingabout off camera.
It's like I had a similarexperience, like with my
girlfriend and I she was on theshow too.
So we're talking about that andI think the reason why I don't
like do that sort of contentanymore is because it burned me
out as much.
It was fun to do with mygirlfriend and see the
engagement and make people laughand enjoy it, but it was like I
knew fundamentally that thisisn't what makes me happy and so

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therefore I don't havelongevity in it.
So it was a lot of fun for ayear and a half, but now I'm
like okay, let me just do thingsI know is sustainable, because
I, like, truly enjoyed doing ityeah, I respect that yeah, so I
know I do enjoy it, though Iknow I do just gotta figure out
the way to make it work so thatexactly that what you said.

Vanessa (06:53):
It's sustainable, exactly so.
That's why I want to break intomore long-term, long-form
content like, hopefully, youtubeyeah, it's always fun my
editing is not my thing, that'swhy.

J.R. (07:05):
That's the other thing I'm like I hate editing and this,
all the tedious stuff.
Yeah, it's such a hassle,especially if it's like editing
is my passion.
If it's not, yeah, good luckyeah, no, I.

Vanessa (07:15):
So I have a youtube channel right now and a couple
of my videos have been doingreally well, especially the ones
that I edit myself, because Ido.
They're long form and I do havean editor which is my sister by
the way there you go.
But I get comments where theycan tell when it's not me
editing it Interesting and theydon't not like my sister's

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editing, but they can tell.

J.R. (07:38):
It's a different style, exactly.

Vanessa (07:40):
And it's not too far off, but… and so that's the
thing Also.
And it's not too far off, but,and so that's the thing Also.
I want to keep my contentauthentic, but it's hard, it's
really hard.

J.R. (07:51):
Definitely You'll figure it out.
I know it's one of those thingslike every journey is always
figuring out.
Get to a certain point and thenyou just figure out what works
best.

Vanessa (07:58):
Yeah.
You need to teach me If I hadto figure it out, or you need to
come here.
No, if I had to figure, it out.

J.R. (08:03):
We're gonna come here.
No, we'll talk about it.
Anyways, let's go into thefirst topic.
Origin story influences lifetrajectory.
So, as with all my first timeguests, pretty much just to for
lack of a better word humanizeyou.
Where did you grow up?
What was your career and lifeaspirations when you were
younger?
I guess we'll start with that.

Vanessa (08:20):
Oh, I love that.
So I grew up in San Diego andthen also San Francisco.
I split my childhood timebetween there, um, but from a
young age I always knew that Iwanted to be famous.
I don't know, that was likealways my thing.
I'm Filipino, so I want to be asinger.
You know that same story ofcourse but I know I can like

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sing, but I don't know I didn'treally pursue that.
But I knew I can like sing, butI don't know, I didn't really
pursue that.
But I knew I wanted to befamous somehow and luckily,
influencing came to be duringour generation, so that just
seemed like my ticket to fameand I'd say I was.
I think I was like 20, 2023.

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And I was with two of mygirlfriends in Olive Garden
parking lot and we went to goeat the $10 pastas and we were
just talking about our lifegoals and things we wanted to do
.
And then that conversation iswhen I decided that I would
start influencing, because withthose girlfriends specifically,

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we always talked about what wewanted to do, always talked
about it but never did anything.
And that conversation reallypushed me to be like okay, I'll
just do it.
And literally the next daythat's when I started posting on
TikTok every single day and Ididn't even get that much
traction until a month or two,two month and a half in I had

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like my first viral video, whichwas I think it got like 200,000
, which is a lot, but it's notlike that much, but like.
After that video blew up, I waslike oh my god, this is so.
I was like, oh my God, this isso awesome.
I'm like validating myself.
And yeah, ever since then Ijust kept posting.
I'd say every day.

J.R. (10:11):
So then in your I guess in your early twenties, you're
like, okay, influencing, wetalked about this, goals, and
then you finally pulled thetrigger.
Up until that point, what wasyour direction?
I know you said you wanted tobe famous, but like were you
pursuing something until thatpoint?

Vanessa (10:26):
No I.
You wanted to be famous, butlike were you pursuing something
until that point?

J.R. (10:30):
no, that was a mess.
I wake up, I eat, I just dowhatever no, I literally.

Vanessa (10:33):
So I went to community college and, I'm not gonna lie,
I was really depressed at thattime.
I was in a super toxicrelationship.
I applied to like four-yearuniversities and I got in
nowhere and I just thought thatwas insane because, okay, my GPA
wasn't that good, but it wasover like a 4.0.
But I did fail a lot of my APtests, so I feel like that's

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what happened?

J.R. (10:59):
What was your major that you're trying to get into?
A business, okay, businessGotcha.

Vanessa (11:03):
Yeah, and so I actually started a business.
I owned a boba shop in Convoyfor a year and then things
didn't really work out.
I realized that a brick andmortar was not for me.

J.R. (11:16):
What about it is not for you?
I've never owned a business.

Vanessa (11:20):
I don't know.

J.R. (11:20):
I'm curious.

Vanessa (11:21):
So I didn't realize.
Obviously, owning a business,there's work that comes along.
What that's crazy.

J.R. (11:29):
Hot take here Really hot take how much work for this
business.

Vanessa (11:34):
But I didn't realize how much work was actually there
, like all the permits, workingwith business partners, having
like different opinions onthings that was the biggest
thing and like working withcontractors or taking exams to
get approved for to sell thingsand yeah, it was too much so

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would you say you'reentrepreneurial?

J.R. (12:01):
I know you do consecration , but would you say, you want to
be a business.
I did, but you did, and Irealized I don't okay, it was
like a turning point.

Vanessa (12:09):
Yeah, but influencing is nice because you can monetize
off of that, but it's not.
I'm not gonna lie, it's not thehardest thing, it's not.
I have a great respect forpeople that like run not that
this is not an actual business,but like people that run

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physical brick and mortarbusinesses.
I have so much respect for that.
I think the online business isfor me.

J.R. (12:38):
A little more streamlined and simple.

Vanessa (12:39):
Yeah, yeah.

J.R. (12:41):
Did you have any major influences growing up that kind
of shaped you to who you aretoday?

Vanessa (12:48):
I mean, okay, I don't know if I'm allowed to say his
name, but Ryan Higa, I don'twant to say his YouTube name.

J.R. (12:58):
Oh right, People know who Ryan Higa is.

Vanessa (13:00):
I would say Ryan Higa was a huge creator for me that I
look up to.
He was….
He is still so funny and he wasalso the most consistent.
I don't know if you remember,but he also did like a YouTube
content creator game show.
Do you remember that?
I don't remember he was a judgeon that.

J.R. (13:19):
Oh, okay.

Vanessa (13:20):
And he… I think I do remember, yeah right.
It was a long time, like it wasin the midst of his fame, I'd
say, and like just watchingthose smaller creators create on
a consistent basis and watchingthat as a young kid I was just
like I could do that he's like arole model.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say,and he's just so funny.

J.R. (13:41):
He is.

Vanessa (13:42):
He's hilarious.
Sometimes I still go back tothat green ball video.

J.R. (13:45):
Yeah.

Vanessa (13:46):
The original one.
What is it?
The big green ball?

J.R. (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah Didn't he remake that video Like recently
Not recently, but like anupdated one.

Vanessa (13:54):
I feel like I saw A big fan.

J.R. (13:56):
No, I mean this was also a while ago, but I remember him
like that was like one of hisfirst like big videos, the green
ball one, but I swear he madelike an updated kind of parody
of it.

Vanessa (14:06):
I need to watch that, unless I'm just like Mandela
affecting myself, but I swear hedid.
Honestly, he's smart if he did.

J.R. (14:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I respect you.
I think similar like his humoris really hilarious.
It's like very I don't knowADHD, but also he's fun, like
all his puns and stuff.
So he's kind of fun like allhis puns and stuff.
No, I mean same.
I think my girlfriend and Ihave similar humors as him too.
I think this is where we got itfrom.

Vanessa (14:31):
Anyone else that kind of influenced you to where you
are today.
Honestly, where I am today, Ikeep talking about him.
But my boyfriend Well, I'd sayhe's the biggest like motivator,
like he is the one that I canalways go to when I'm lost and I

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need to take a break or I needhelp brainstorming content, or
he's definitely like my safespace where I know, no matter
what choices or what choice Itake, I have a safe spot.

J.R. (15:07):
Yeah yeah, I feel like that's.
I feel like you can'tunderscore the importance of
having your safe space orsupporters, especially if you're
like this, that really help theperson move forward in whatever
field you're in.
Yeah, you're curious about thishazy guy.
Listen episode 33 and 39 on.
It will be featured on both ofthem.
Yes, yeah, cool, all right.
So next topic or I guess we'recontinuing is like breaking into

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the influencer field.
So my first question is howdoes one approach being a
content creator and aninfluencer from your perspective
?

Vanessa (15:38):
I think you need to experiment, experiment a lot.
Luckily, with me it was easy,because I'm like a lifestyle
comedic creator, so I was ableto incorporate just my life.
Like it was so easy to just belike, okay, I'm getting ready,
I'll just put my camera down andI'll say something funny, like

(16:01):
I think, especially now, peoplewant authenticity, authenticity
which is really hard to find.
And, yeah, just being yourself,I feel, is the easiest, and if
something's not working, trysomething else.

J.R. (16:15):
Yeah, how do you approach?
Okay, so you said comedy right,and I've seen your video,
another one I thought it wasthat I have the day off from
work or something.

Vanessa (16:23):
Hey, we got a fan right here.

J.R. (16:27):
I do my research, but they're also hilarious videos,
but you're just vibing in yourroom and then you're just like,
so is this what it's like?
It's so funny.
So how do you approach, I guess, comedy?
Because, again, my girlfriendand I we do comedy content.
But like, how do you approachit?
Because it's from someone,someone from people who want to
be funny, how do you just createthat sort of content?

(16:52):
I don't know, I'm just, I'mjust hilarious.

Vanessa (16:55):
No, I literally can't help you there.

J.R. (16:56):
Yeah.

Vanessa (16:57):
I feel like.

J.R. (16:59):
Is there an approach that you OK?
It's like you're doinglifestyle, you're just getting
ready, or whatever?

Vanessa (17:10):
Like, how does this, the ideas come to you?
I feel like if you think you'refunny, you should post that.
Like, no matter what, someoneis gonna find you funny someone,
because I hate like peoplethink my voice is fake or I'm
annoying or I'm trying to belike a little girl or I don't
know.
I get those comments.
But there's also the 99% thatthink I'm so funny, can laugh

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with me or make videos that areinspired by me, and it's just,
if you think you're funny, youshould post it.

J.R. (17:38):
I totally agree with that.
I think the more visibilitythat you get, you will just
naturally get those haters andthose comments, but at the same
time you also get a lot ofsupporters.
That's one of those things thatyou don't really see until you
get to that point.

Vanessa (17:51):
And I think on Instagram especially, it's
easier to not see those comments, or no?
No, no, tiktok.
Sorry, tiktok is pretty good atfiltering out all the bad, but
I'm not going to lie.

J.R. (18:07):
I did find a whole reddit thread on me that's very
negative.

Vanessa (18:09):
That's how you know you've made it.
No, that's that's what I had totell myself.
I freaking made it.

J.R. (18:13):
I have a whole hate reddit thread how, how poppin is this
reddit thread like how?

Vanessa (18:18):
it's popping.
Really it's pop.
No, so it's funny.
So I found this red Redditthread while I was on live and
that was I was crying a lot.
The initial shock of it.
I was like, dang, people hateme this much.
But then I just let it sink infor 20 minutes.
I was like, dang, I made it.

(18:38):
I made it.
Yeah, literally.

J.R. (18:40):
Okay, so it's like you're kind of over it.
Oh, I'm over it Okay so I justdon't want to poke a wound, but
like so what?
What were the things in thisthread?

Vanessa (18:48):
a lot of it was like I talk like a baby they're just
kind of talk like a little girl.
I have no upper lip, I'm notgonna lie, that one hits because
that's been, that's been areally big insecurity of mine
and I've told myself ever sinceI was like I don't know, like
middle schoolish, I was like I'mgonna get lip filler oh I'm
gonna get lip filler, but I getthe good comments that say I'm

(19:13):
beautiful, it's fine, it's finehave you ever thought about
doing content on those hatercomments?
you know what.
You know what I mean.
I'm gonna take that like aparody yeah, like a parody or
something.
It's like oh my god, you're agenius content creator.
I'm gonna do that.

J.R. (19:27):
I'm gonna do that, because we've done that before too,
like they'll say something andwe kind of just lean into it and
then it's fun because it'sobviously satirical, right.
But then our fans like it.
So they're like, oh, that's sofunny and it's just f you to the
haters oh my god, that's mynext video you should do it.
Thank you, yeah, I credit youbrain wait, that's so good okay,
so I guess on that topic I knowwe talked about haters, but

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hardest parts or challenges thatyou didn't know about content
creation until now- I think wetouched on it a little bit
earlier.

Vanessa (19:56):
But personally, for me it's consistency, and I think
that's everyone with everything,and like that can be put into
any hobby or passion that peoplewant to do.
Same thing with contentcreation.
So hard to be consistent, andbut also it's not that hard,

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especially when it comes toshort form, it's like.
So what I would do is I wouldwake up every morning around
like seven.
That's just the time my bodywould naturally wake up.
I'll be okay, I'm making avideo, I'm gonna make a video
and I'll post it immediatelyright after, and I won't check
my phone the whole day because Idon't want to let the numbers

(20:41):
get to me, because at points thenumbers do get to me, like dang
, like this one got 40k and thenthis one gets a freaking
million.
What was the difference there?
Like I don't, and so sorry.

J.R. (20:53):
Yeah, no, it's like the hardest parts.
And you said consistency.
My question was how do youthink people can overcome that
inconsistency challenge, I guess, or how?
What does it work for you andyou mentioned?
You just mentioned postingearly just to get it over with,
but anything else you thinkhelps with consistency?

Vanessa (21:09):
I actually have great advice from one of my cousins
who's a content creator and shewould take breaks, and that's
what I'm doing right now.
I don't know how long thisbreak is going to be.
I hope it's over soon, butwhile I'm on this break, I'm
like building enough orcompiling enough content so that
when I get back into it it'slike pre-made.

J.R. (21:32):
Right.

Vanessa (21:33):
And so I know that you kind of do that, so yeah, just
in case something happens like,for instance, like I'll get sick
or I don't know, something likethat, and I won't be able to
make content that day.
So I don't have content to postthat day.
And so I'm learning the hardway and I'm taking this week or
two long break, not posting,because I need to compile those
videos.

J.R. (21:53):
So you are creating right now, but you're not posting.

Vanessa (21:55):
Yeah.

J.R. (21:57):
Oh, okay, yeah, I like that.
Yeah, do you have any tips oradvice for someone starting out?
And also, what kind or type ofdo you think that people should
produce?

Vanessa (22:10):
I would say don't let the numbers get to you.
I think that's why I got somuch success in the beginning,
because I didn't care about thenumbers.
I just posted the video.
I thought that is really funnyand I don't care if people see
it or not.
And then I feel like thenumbers just come to you,
especially if you're beingauthentic.

J.R. (22:31):
I think it doesn't really matter what you post like,
people will come to love who youare right, yeah, so I know
we're talking about authenticity, but how do you think people
should find, like their niche ofwhat type of content to post?

Vanessa (22:45):
because I know that's a big thing in the content
creation space.
Yeah, that's something I'mworking on right now too is
trying to figure out where I canserialize my brand, because I'm
up in the air too.
Like all my videos are sodifferent, like the one we just
showed, like that was just on arandom morning or Tuesday
morning and I'm dying on arandom morning or Tuesday

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morning and I'm dying.
And then I'll have other videoswhere it's very like thought
out and I'm making a matcha orI'm in my bed talking, like it's
very it's.
I think I'm also experimentingand trying to figure that out
too, but I think as long as yourpersonality shines through,
people won't care.
Yeah.

J.R. (23:25):
Plus, like, the worst case scenario is no one sees it, but
the best case too many peoplesee it, you know yeah, yeah,
it's like whatever, exactly,exactly what do you think is
something people get wrong aboutcontent creation, if anything
that comes to mind?

Vanessa (23:38):
oh my gosh.
So just recently I went to myfirst influencer event where I
met like people that were biggerthan me, like millions of
followers, and then I also metpeople that are way smaller than
me or the numbers don't matter.
But I feel like there's thisthing about influencers that we
care about followers and whoeverwe talk to, and we're very like

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pompous and standoffish, buteveryone that I've talked to at
that event were so transparentabout, like, their management or
how, how do they get theirnumbers or their streaming
schedule or or how they came tobe, because I met people on all

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different levels.
There are people that are doingthis full-time and getting paid
and live in new york skyriseapartments, and then there's
people that are just doing itpart-time and just doing it for
fun, and I think the influencingworld is really expanding and
people are actually reallywelcoming okay yeah, I think

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that's tends to be true.

J.R. (24:43):
I mean, obviously you'll get your toxic people anyway oh
yeah, but it's you're like toyour point, you'd be surprised
at how nice people actually areand how genuine they are yeah,
and not just stereotyping yeah,I'm not gonna lie, the
influencer event had a lot ofasians, so I felt more
comfortable to talk to everybodywhat event was it?

Vanessa (25:00):
I'm just curious it was the, the nami matcha pop-up.
She, she's a YouTuber.
Okay okay, but she's huge, Ilove her.

J.R. (25:07):
Where was the?
It was in LA, oh, okay.

Vanessa (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was really really fun.
I drank a lot of matcha as youshould.
Yeah, and then we did a yogaPilates thing right before.

J.R. (25:19):
Oh, your specialty.

Vanessa (25:19):
Exactly.
No, I'm not going to lie.
I was right in the center andpeople were like, oh damn, she's
doing like I can do.

J.R. (25:25):
It Is she going to throw up?
Is she going to cry?

Vanessa (25:28):
No, I almost did, because we drank so much matcha.
Oh God, why did you throw upgreen?

J.R. (25:34):
It was the good matcha.
That sounds fun.
Yeah, I guess on that topic doyou have any fun, interesting or
unique stories on your contentcreation journey?
Oh my God.
Something that stands out, thatwas like oh, that was fun.

Vanessa (25:50):
That was a good memory.
I mean, I would say it's thatNAMI pop-up.
That was so surreal for me.
People who are bigger than meand I've been watching for years
went to me and said thatthey're huge fans of me.
That was so insane.
I'm so used to being the fan tothe celebrity and the fact that
people like not that I'm acelebrity, but that people know

(26:10):
who I am and like and have asocial or a parasocial
relationship with me and likethey know who I am Like that is
so insane to me.
I'm like what Guys?
I'm a normal person.

J.R. (26:23):
Not only the fact that, right like when you have videos
that go viral, you're likeliterally millions of people
know what my face looks like.
No, it's so insane.
And on top of that, it's likewait, these other famous people
know who I look like and who Iam Exactly.

Vanessa (26:34):
Isn't that like insane yes, it's surreal.

J.R. (26:37):
If you could redo something on your content
creation journey so you go backto that first day, is there
anything that you would dodifferently, just knowing what
you know now?

Vanessa (26:46):
something that I would do differently is I wish I
posted on every single platformfrom the beginning, because I
just recently started posting oninstagram and I've been gaining
a lot of traction on there.
If I just started from thebeginning on every single
platform I could have.
I mean, I'm very thankful, ofcourse, for the numbers and the

(27:07):
people that I have now, but if Ijust did it from the get-go
like I could have been waybigger.
But it's meant to happen.
Yeah, of course, learn likelessons along the way.
Yeah, yeah.

J.R. (27:18):
It's funny because so, going back to, I don't want to
make it about me, but so withour accounts, like we
startediktok, instagram andyoutube and facebook I guess.
But it's so interesting how wehave different audiences on
different platforms, which Iguess makes sense.
But, for example, our facebookvideos, if they go viral, it's
like obviously an olderish crowdand a different makeup, like
demographic, and then instagramis obviously different.

(27:40):
Tiktok is obviously likeyoungerish, I guess, if you
stereotype it.
And then youtube it's obviouslydifferent, so like the comments
and the people and it.
And then YouTube it's obviouslydifferent, so like the comments
and the people and engagementwas so different the comments,
right, yeah, because it's notalways the same type of comments
on each like platform, but itwas interesting to see, like,
how the platforms are sodifferent.

Vanessa (27:55):
Yeah, no, me and Mazzy.
We just had a meeting actuallyand we should posting on
Facebook from the beginning.
Like I didn't realize.
I know 3 billion people are onthat app every single day.

J.R. (28:07):
I know people are here, but it's kind of a dinosaur.
Yeah, I get it.

Vanessa (28:11):
I'm not gonna lie.
I opened the app and I'm like Idon't know how to use this.
I feel like an older person onInstagram or something, yeah.

J.R. (28:20):
No, I feel it.

Vanessa (28:21):
Yeah.

J.R. (28:22):
Okay, so now let's switch topics to mental wellbeing and
healthy relationships.
I know this is one of thetopics that you mentioned you
want to talk about.
My first question is how isone's mental health or
well-being connected to the lifeof a content creator?

Vanessa (28:35):
it's very interconnected.
Especially if you're alifestyle influencer, which I
say I would be.
It's hard for me to also be acomedic one too when I'm going
through something, and that'swhy I'm taking this break, and I
know that my community wants tosee this side of me too, not

(28:57):
only the good but the bad.
But it's hard because I want tomake them laugh, but that is
something I need.
Personally, I would like toshow, as a lifestyle content
creator, are the lows as well asthe highs, and because the
people I follow, I feel likewhen I see them going through
something, I feel more connectedtoo.

(29:18):
They can be funny and make melaugh and I can see these
amazing things happening forthem.
But it's good to humanize themtoo, that they're also going
through something and we can gothrough it together.
So maybe I should do that.
It's like more ideas.
Yeah, this is actually abrainstorming no, it's literally
my brainstorming session, rightnow, but we listen to it back

(29:38):
like all right, I'm taking no,literally with my little notepad
.

J.R. (29:41):
Yeah what are some typical pitfalls influencers come
across when dealing with theirown personal well-being?

Vanessa (29:47):
I know we've been talking about this, but does
anything come to mind?

J.R. (29:50):
pitfalls like yeah, I would say lows.
I know you mentioned theconsistency.
Sometimes it could be like withfriends or family or maybe
juggling other things or justmental health and, like you said
, what you want to put out couldbe different depending on how
you feel.
But do you feel like there areany other typical pitfalls that
content creators might gothrough?

Vanessa (30:08):
maybe struggling to feel authentic, especially
because we're in the public eye.
It's like hard to differentiatewhen am I being me and when am
I putting it on for the people.
When I'm thinking of a video todo, it's very on the spot.

(30:28):
I always try to keep it liketrue to me as much as I can, but
it's hard because I'm like am Ialso trying to cater to the
people I know that are going tosee this, or am I being myself?
And I do notice the videoswhere I'm not thinking about
anyone, they kind of performbetter.

(30:49):
So yeah, I feel like that'swhere a lot of content creators
struggle is staying true tothemselves and not letting other
people's opinions get to them.

J.R. (31:01):
So how do you approach it with, like, your online persona?
So I had a guest on and wetalked about this how our social
or influencer friends.
Sometimes they feel like theycan't be themselves in public
because they feel like theirpersona is so distinct, but they
also feel like they're alsoreally different in person,
which is fair.
Sometimes content only shows aspecific side of us.
It might not necessarily befake, but it's just not all of

(31:22):
us fake, but it's just not allof us.
So some of those people feellike they have to hide.
But at the same time too, whenwe approach content and they're
only seeing that sort of funnypersona and that's not really
all of us like again, forexample, my girlfriend and I, we
have distinct personas thatsometimes we hate for and it's
like you do know that's not realright it's not actually how she
is, like she has a girlfriendpersona where it's like she's

(31:43):
like the whiny girlfriend whoforgot her wallet at home and
I'm like, oh, again, exactly,and so so that's it.
She does do that sometimes, butit people think she's just this
annoying whiny girl and thenwe're like you know, that's just
like a persona, you know what Imean?
like it's not really her exactly, but it gets the views, so it's
like balancing that.
But so I don't know if you hadany thoughts on that topic, but

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how do you approach that?

Vanessa (32:05):
So it's funny because I'll meet like people that watch
me online in person, and I feellike it's not fair because I
feel like I'm the same.
I'm not going to lie Likeeveryone that I've met in person
, I've been lucky enough tocreate a platform where I am
kind of the same person.
But obviously there's othersides to me, me, but I think

(32:27):
it's the same thing, like ifyou're in a room with
professionals like you have tobe a certain way or if you're
with your friends, you're gonnabe a little bit more relaxed.

J.R. (32:36):
I think it just depends on the situation and yeah yeah,
that makes sense because it'sthose that stereotype of okay
someone is this way in aworkspace, this way with their
family this with their friends.

Vanessa (32:49):
They're not necessarily lying or it's not a facade
exactly it's real, but it's justone side of it in a certain
environment exactly, yeah,that's why, when people say I'm
a character like, I could seehow you're thinking that, but
it's just like my silly side,like if you, if you think that's
all I am, it's definitely acharacter yeah, yeah, but it's
definitely part of me exactly,exactly

J.R. (33:08):
I like that we're whole people, you guys yeah, viral
videos exactly um do you haveany strategies or lessons you
learned along the way that helpyou manage, I guess in the realm
of your mental well-being orhealthy relationships or
anything like that?
But are there any strategiesthat you've learned?
Like as an influencer as aninfluencer, maybe as a person?

Vanessa (33:31):
I feel like building a community with you, like, for
instance, like my boyfriend hasbecome my brainstorm expert, my
manager, my everything.
It's just helpful when you havea team, like building a team,
and also like I Twitch streamtoo, and so I have mods who've

(33:52):
helped me manage everythinggoing on, because I don't really
know how Twitch works.

J.R. (33:57):
But I'm a Twitch streamer.

Vanessa (34:00):
And yeah, I feel like when you build a community
around you that is supportiveand helpful, it makes the whole
process a lot easier.
And oh, and my sister too, likeshe's been a huge help, like
editing for me and helping mecome with new ideas too, and
also when I'm going through alot of like mental blocks or I

(34:24):
need a break from contentcreating, she's also been a lot,
a lot of help too.
So definitely like the peoplewho you surround yourself with,
yeah definitely so.

J.R. (34:32):
What about?
This is kind of a shift, butalso the same.
So you mentioned healthyrelationships.
So maybe this isn't necessarilyas a content creator, but maybe
as a person.
I think we all want healthyrelationships.

Vanessa (34:49):
We don't want toxic relationships, relationships,
but maybe we can start off likewhat has your journey been with
building healthy relationships.
Yeah, oh my god.
I feel like I've grown up inreally I hate to say it in a
really like toxic environmentand also at a really young age,
like when I was 16.
I was like in a really youngage, like when I was 16, I was
like in a really toxicrelationship and it really
affected my self-dialogue, likeI would talk so down on myself

(35:14):
and the people around me likewouldn't would just make it
worse, and I feel like keeptalking about this man.
My boyfriend did a complete 180on the way I treat myself and
the people around me and I haveto owe it to him being secure in

(35:35):
himself and being what is itcalled the attachment styles or
whatever, oh, like avoidance orlike anxious, I'm anxious, I'm
anxious, I'm very anxious.
But luckily my partner is supersecure and he's taught me, like
so many, methods and ways whereI can treat not only him with

(35:57):
even more respect and love, butalso people around me, and
especially myself, andespecially myself.
Like something that they don'ttell you about changing from a
super toxic relationship to areally secure one is now you're
not fighting with the otherperson, now you're fighting with
yourself and you're trying tofigure out how can I be a good

(36:19):
person, not only for myself butnow this other person, because
now this person is respecting meand I need to respect them.
I can't just yell at my partnerlike the way I used to be, like
it's reteaching yourself how tobe a good partner.
Oh my God, what was thequestion again?

J.R. (36:36):
No, no, no, I mean we're going yeah, you can keep going.
Were there any specific likestrategies or mental scripts or,
I guess, guiding philosophiesthat help you to manage those
relationships in a healthier way?

Vanessa (36:50):
I would say while I'm being in this really healthy
relationship, it's spending alot of time with myself and
being able to self-reflect on,or being more conscious of, my
words and my actions.
For my partner, the peoplearound me Like I noticed that
the way I talk to my sisters alot has changed, and even my

(37:15):
parents too.
Like I have to go back andreflect on their perspective
also.
It's not just about me and howI feel in this moment, it's also
their background and how theirattachment styles are, and I
need to respect that and alsoteach them at the same time,

(37:35):
like how we can treat each otherwith more respect.

J.R. (37:38):
Yeah, I see, so I'm assuming that.
Well, I think it reminds me ofHasi's episode.
It was that idea of approachingit Like you're on the same team
and you're trying to start offwith okay, here we have a
conflict.
Obviously.
But if you, if you set thefoundation of we're trying to
resolve this thing together andwith partnerships and like

(37:58):
romantic relationships, then youget a better outcome, because
it's oh, we're not starting asadversaries, we're starting as
like partners or same teammates.
And I think that's hard too,because it forces us to have to
stop, listen and empathize firstbefore we throw our agenda over
the fence.
But it's more like okay, let mehear you out, and also, this is
what we're trying to do butthat's really hard.

Vanessa (38:24):
No, it's so crazy that you say that, because when I
heard that for the first time,like when he said we're on the
same team, I was just like wait,what I didn't realize we could
be partners and on the same team.
I don't know why I never didthat before.

J.R. (38:36):
I never did that before, so I'm learning do you have any
advice for people who are tryingto either get out of toxic
relationships or build a healthyone family, friends, romantic
or otherwise that you feel likewould help people?

Vanessa (38:51):
I feel like mine is kind of unhinged, but go for it
bad relationship, let's break up, don't stay.
Is that unhinged?
No, literally.
I just I always think back likeit's not unhinged.
Huh, it's not.
I feel like that's healthy?

J.R. (39:09):
how do you know when to leave and when to stay?
Maybe?
That's also maybe a bigquestion, but for some people
it's subjective, right.
Like oh, I think I can fix him,I can fix her right.
Or like what?
At what point is it like likeit's a clear line in the sand,
deal breaker of it's toxic, orif it's like both people are
trying to work through it andthey have their own baggage or
trauma and they're all trying towork on it together.

(39:30):
Are there any, in your opinion,characteristics of okay, this
is worth continuing or this isworth cutting off?
oh gosh, this is just taking meback, you want to learn from
each, but if you want to pass,we can pass.

Vanessa (39:45):
no, no, let's talk about it.
I'm very passionate about this.
I just feel like, yes, youshould grow with your partner.
I feel like when it's reallytaking away from your peace,
it's not your job to fix them.
I don't know, Especially ifyou're younger.
It's like we're both growing.

(40:08):
How do I know what's right foryou and how do you know what's
right for me?
We're both so young it doesn'tmake sense.
It's like we're two like blindpeople trying to cross the
street.
I don't know.
I feel like my advice is I wasgoing to say when you see the
first red flag, you need to run.

J.R. (40:27):
Okay, now easy question.

Vanessa (40:39):
What are some easy red flags, just to throw it out
there that you think maybepeople don't see?
So my experience with my firstrelationship, I feel, is really
extreme.
Like I experienced a lot oflike emotional, physical, verbal
abuse and I should have knownthat like from the beginning.
That was a red flag, but in myhead I was like so swarmed up in
love or what I thought was love, that I stayed, and I think

(41:00):
it's hard for a person in therelationship to see that.
But I do think when there'speople around you that you're
confiding in and they're tellingyou this isn't good for you, I
think that's when you need tolisten and that's when you need
to actually act on it.
It's, it's real.
It's harder or it's easier saidthan done for sure, but I feel

(41:23):
like when you hear yourcommunity telling you this isn't
good for you, because they knowyou the best, you should.

J.R. (41:29):
Yeah, I think that's that's good advice, because
you're saying from the inside itis very hard to take yourself
out of it and make the rightdecision.
Yeah, but at the very least youcan listen to the people around
you who care about you, who cansee it and be like, listen to
them a little bit, yeah, andhelp.
It might help you make thatdecision a little more easier.
Uh, so I think that's goodadvice yeah, yeah, that's
something I didn't't do.

(41:50):
Yeah, I mean, you live and youlearn, right, I think we all
have to make mistakes the hardway sometimes and, like you said
, when we're young we can'tavoid it because we're all just
the blind meeting the blind.
So unless you guys are justborn amazing at relationships,
it's kind of hard to navigatethat.
Oh yeah, anything else oneither identifying toxicity,

(42:16):
getting of that or advice youwould give for finding and
cultivating healthyrelationships.
If not, we covered a lot.
Oh, go for it.

Vanessa (42:21):
The first thing is always that just leave him, just
leave hey, I mean, what's theworst that can happen?

J.R. (42:27):
you, maybe you guys are both meant to be apart, you know
at least I don't know I don'teven, I don't even think that's
a hot take.

Vanessa (42:35):
I feel like that's just okay, yeah, thank you, I mean
okay, ready for rapid firequestions oh yeah, this is the
fun also.
I was like looking over, I feellike they're not so rapid for
me like oh well, we'll see,we'll see, we have, we have a
solid, like 10-15 minutes, okay,okay perfect.
First one billboard question ifyou could put up a sign for
millions for me.
Oh, we'll see, we'll see.
We have a solid like 10, 15minutes.

J.R. (42:52):
Okay, okay, perfect.
First one billboard question Ifyou could put up a sign for
millions of people to see, whatwould it say?

Vanessa (42:58):
Don't care about the numbers, keep going.

J.R. (43:03):
What is one of the hardest challenges you've faced and
what did you learn from it?

Vanessa (43:07):
I want to go back to what I was talking about before.
It was when I was put into thisreally beautiful, healthy
relationship and I had to cometo terms with myself and how I
react to things by myself, Eventhough I have such an amazing
partner.
I feel like spending time byyourself and realizing who you

(43:29):
are is the best way that you canbe your true self.

J.R. (43:34):
It's the internal work that's so important.
Oh yeah, all right.
Next, one Self-inflicted wound.
Do you have a story aboutsomething that's gone wrong in
your life?
That's your own fault and youcan't blame anyone else?

Vanessa (43:44):
I would say that toxic relationship, like I had so many
opportunities to leave and Iwill say I was young so I made
mistakes, but did you ask if Icould do it differently?

J.R. (44:00):
I mean, that's the next question, but this was like if
you can't blame anyone, so whatwould you redo?

Vanessa (44:04):
but I would have left yeah, okay.

J.R. (44:07):
Well, that was the next question, but if you could give
your younger self advice?
That's nothing that we'vealready talked about.

Vanessa (44:15):
I would say focus on yourself.
I, especially if you're younger, that's like my biggest mistake
is I prioritized too manypeople over anything that I
wanted to do or anything Iwanted to accomplish.
I wish I just poured the mostinto myself, more than anyone
else, because I could have beenlike a whole person earlier.

(44:39):
I feel like I'm more of a wholeperson now, but yeah.

J.R. (44:43):
Okay, in the last few years, what new belief, behavior
or habit has improved your life?

Vanessa (44:49):
I would say my self dialogueialogue.
I feel like being my biggesthype man taking care of myself.
I would take care of myself,but in a very surface level way.
I think that what we keeptalking about my internal work
has definitely helped me grow asa person and only thrive.

J.R. (45:09):
How do you define success?
Grow as a person and onlythrive.

Vanessa (45:13):
How do you define success?
I feel like everyone's successis really dependent on whatever
they want to do.
I feel like if you're pursuingwhatever you want to do whenever
you want, I feel like that'ssuccess.

J.R. (45:29):
Nice.
If you knew you couldn't fail,what would you be doing right
now?
And if you knew you wouldabsolutely fail, what would you
do anyway?

Vanessa (45:39):
I would be a YouTuber.
Right now I don't know what itis.
Youtube feels so hard.
I'm just so used to short-formcontent because it's so easy.
I don't know what this hurdleis Like.

J.R. (45:50):
YouTube and long-form content has been such a struggle
for me what do you like aboutyoutube in long form, like what
draws you to it?

Vanessa (45:57):
well, number one just growing up on youtube.
Like watching these amazingcreators, like being a part of
that thing, that yeah and alsoI'm not gonna lie like the
possible stability of itmonetarily like financial
perspective yeah, I just I feellike that, like if I I feel like

(46:19):
that's when I'll feel like areal influencer per se, is when
I start doing that.
I'm gonna work on it like it.

J.R. (46:28):
If you knew you would absolutely fail, what would you
do anyways?

Vanessa (46:34):
I took that question a little differently.
I thought, okay, if I was gonnadie, what would I do then?
I'd probably be traveling theworld so much right now I'd
probably be all over, justprobably doing content, just so
I could feed myself and probablyliving that nomad life.

J.R. (46:50):
Yeah, okay, that works is what's something that you've
been pondering frequently ordeeply, and probably living that
nomad life.
Yeah, okay, that works.
What's something that you'vebeen pondering frequently or
deeply, or what is a favoritehot take you have?

Vanessa (46:59):
Oh my God, Can I do both?
Sure, well, as I mentioned, I'mlike on a break right now, and
so I'm just trying to recollect,like, my thoughts and how I'm
going to move forward,especially because I'm planning
to post on all content and alsotrying to get a very strict

(47:20):
Twitch schedule and trying topursue content creation as a
whole, because right now I'mworking part time and then, on
top of that, trying to like makecontent creation a thing and
I'm really trying to basicallymanage myself right now, it's
true.
Yeah.

J.R. (47:40):
Makes sense.
Do you have a hot take,favorite hot take?

Vanessa (47:44):
Oh my God, I had a good one.

J.R. (47:46):
Something that the way I phrase it is something that you
feel like is true, but maybe notmainstream people or most
people would agree with, butyou're like.
But I think it is somethingthat you feel like is true, but
maybe not mainstream people ormost people would agree with,
but you're like, but I thinkit's true though.

Vanessa (47:56):
I think that you need to be more selfish.
I think everyone needs to bemore selfish, leave him.
And that too, I didn't want tosay it again.
I didn't want to say it again.

J.R. (48:05):
I'm like she wants to say.
I wanted to say that I'm likeah, I already said that.
Be selfish and leave him.

Vanessa (48:11):
Exactly.
I feel like, okay, I'm notgonna lie.
Especially as a woman, I thinkwe need to be selfish.

J.R. (48:19):
I mean, I think people just need to take care of
themselves more.
Prioritize yourself.

Vanessa (48:22):
That's a better way to say it.
Yeah, prioritize yourself.
I should have said that.
That's a nicer way of saying it, you said the same thing.

J.R. (48:32):
Yeah, wave, you said the same thing.
Yeah, yeah, and on like a morephilosophical level, I think
people don't realize this.
But we are the ceos of our ownlife.
No one's gonna tell us what todo.
We're not clocking into someonelike we have to control how our
life goes.
So in that sense, it's like youif you don't prioritize
yourself, who's gonna prioritize?

Vanessa (48:44):
exactly nobody exactly see.
That's where I'm struggling.
I need to learn how to like,manage and like even like.
Scheduling appointment for meis so hard.

J.R. (48:53):
I don't know why somebody says sometimes it's not our
strengths, right?
Yeah, it's like.
I think that's why people whoare creators and artists have
teams, because, let's say, we'remore right brain and we need a
team that's more left brain, orvice versa oh my god, that makes
so much sense.

Vanessa (49:07):
Yeah, so I never thought about like that.

J.R. (49:09):
That's so true yeah, it's like, it's like the.
I talk about this on thepodcast, but it's like a company
.
There's like the CEO and likethe COO or whatever, but
typically there's a number oneand number two.
The number one archetype islike the creative visionary.

Vanessa (49:21):
Yeah.

J.R. (49:21):
And the number two is more of the grounded, structured
spreadsheets type person, andyou need both to work.
Obviously, if you're a one-mancompany, you need to do both,
but it's not always ourstrengths for one or two right.
It's usually one or the other,and so partnering up is usually
a better option, or you couldlearn both skills oh yeah oh
yeah, so I I believe that it'sso, it's hard I'm not, I'm very,

(49:42):
I'm very number two oh nice,yeah, I'm very more structured
but like.
But to take initiative onanything, especially content
creation, you do need to bringout the number one in yourself,
like the vision, creativitystuff.
I agree with that.
Yeah, okay, what is one of thebest or most worthwhile
investments you've ever made ineither time money, energy or etc
I would say so.

Vanessa (50:05):
I work part-time now, but I quit my job in january.
That's when I made that dancingvideo Like the week after I
quit.
I quit my job after I took aweek break.

J.R. (50:19):
And that's a crazy lore drop.

Vanessa (50:21):
I did quit after that.
I did quit.

J.R. (50:23):
I enjoyed my time.
Did you see how?

Vanessa (50:25):
happy I was in that video.

J.R. (50:26):
I had to quit yeah, why would I stop this happening?

Vanessa (50:29):
Exactly, yeah, why would I stop this exactly?
And so I, yeah, so I quitbecause I knew that content
creation is something that Iwant to pursue and I think that
was like literally the bestthing that's ever happened to me
, because that's when, all of asudden, like all of these
opportunities started to come tofruition.

(50:49):
I don't know why, or, but I'mpretty sure because I quit, I
like made way for like moreopportunity to come.
I also was able to expressmyself more creatively.
I just just giving myself thattime, and I did pick up a
part-time job.
Now I think that's why I'mlosing it, because I got a job

(51:11):
again.

J.R. (51:11):
Oh, I see, I'm pretty sure that's why I'm losing it
because I got a job again oh, Isee, I'm pretty sure that's
you're like out of the vibe nowbecause you're also it's a vibe.

Vanessa (51:19):
No, I'm definitely not a CEO.
I'm, or I'm the CEO.
I'm just the.
I need the time to perfect thecraft and my part-time job is
getting in the way I feel it.
I resonate.

J.R. (51:30):
I resonate with that.
I feel like I agree because theI think something like quitting
your job is an intention youput out in the universe and the
universe responds to ourintentions that we put out, and
so it's like sometimes we doneed to take that leap of faith
or make a decision that youcan't turn back on, because that
shift changes your energyfrequency.

Vanessa (51:48):
You know it's so funny.
I always hear that funny.
I always hear that like.
I always hear that like on arandom podcast clip or something
.
But it's so funny that it's sotrue, right, yeah it.

J.R. (51:58):
It's true, when you do it and you experience it, you're
like, oh, this wasn't just itactually is a real thing.

Vanessa (52:03):
Yeah, I completely agree.

J.R. (52:06):
Okay, favorite recent purchase in the 50 to 100 range
that has impacted your life themost in the last six months.
So some recent cheap purchasethat's cheap 50 to 100 range
that has impacted your life themost in the last six months.
So some recent cheap purchasethat's cheap.

Vanessa (52:16):
50.

J.R. (52:16):
To 100, I guess the range doesn't matter.
The spirit of the question islike something that someone can
easily buy, but you're like, wow, this little thing has made an
impact I was like damn, spent$500 today on clothes.

Vanessa (52:33):
I'm trying to think of something.
Oh, I would say okay, I wouldsay I've been investing a little
bit more into my groceries,I've gotten a little bit more
healthier options and I thinkthat has actually definitely
helped my well-being.
But also not good, because nowwhen I go to fast food, and I

(52:55):
want something quick.
It hurts my stomach so it'skind of counterintuitive, but I
do feel a lot better becauseI've paid more attention to what
I put into my body.

J.R. (53:03):
Do you have any examples of things that you've been
buying that you haven't before?

Vanessa (53:06):
I've been drinking a lot of bone broth late oh what
kind of just the one from costcobeef chicken yeah, chicken
tastes really good.
Supposedly it's supposed tohelp your sweet tooth throughout
the day, because your bodydoesn't crave sweets as much
when you start your day off withsomething savory, but I don't
know about that I still eat Istill eat some sweets at the end

(53:29):
of the night I see, yeah,that's a good pro tip.

J.R. (53:32):
Maybe you guys should experiment and try it out.

Vanessa (53:33):
Yeah, it's good for your digestion, you guys.

J.R. (53:36):
It's funny because, like for the first three weeks in May
, I was sick and I was drinkinga lot of bone broth.

Vanessa (53:41):
Did you do your podcast ?

J.R. (53:41):
still no.
I had a break because I had myschedule already.

Vanessa (53:45):
Good, you got that content ready to go.

J.R. (53:47):
I was preparing for this contingency.
So yeah, I was drinking bonebroth in the mornings because I
needed to rehydrate and stufflike that.
But I did notice that I didfeel I don't want to say full,
but I didn't have as much sweetcravings throughout the day, and
it's because I normally startoff with something sweet for
breakfast like overnight oats.
But this time I was startingwith something savory and I was
like wait, I am not cravingsweets as much am not craving

(54:12):
sweets as much maybe it doesn'twork.
I don't know, I wasn't lying.
Just one yeah, like data point.
Okay, last one favorite books,movies, videos, articles that
you share or recommend the mostlike any media books, movies, it
could be any media that youconsume okay, I'm a comedic one,
so I'm gonna give you guyssomething funny.

Vanessa (54:27):
I don't know if you've heard she's a very new or she's
been doing great content for along time, but… have you heard
of Vanilla Mace?
She's the funniest woman onthis planet earth.

J.R. (54:37):
You guys need to watch her .
What is she like?

Vanessa (54:39):
She's a Twitch streamer and she's like a lifestyle
content creator on YouTube.

J.R. (54:44):
So it's like what you want to do.

Vanessa (54:45):
Exactly, exactly.
That's why I recommend her.

J.R. (54:59):
No, she's so funny she's gonna make you guys pee your
pants.
What was her name?
Again, just vanilla mace.
You guys, how do you spell mace?
M-a-c-e?
Okay, okay, cool, I'll link it.
Nice, oh, you will.
Yeah, no, I'll, maybe she'llsee it.
Well, I don't know she'll seeit, but I like, whatever we talk
about, I try to link, and sopeople they want to see what,
like those thoughtful anythingelse?
Any other media recs?

Vanessa (55:12):
no, just thank, just thank you.
This is so awesome, I feel.
I finally feel comfortable atthe last minute.

J.R. (55:17):
There you go.
If we do part two, then you'relike all right, this is perfect.
Okay, nice Well that's it forrapid fire questions, so we'll
go into ending questions.
So, vanessa, gratitude Shoutout to my mom.
What are you grateful for?

Vanessa (55:29):
I'm grateful for my family, my boyfriend and
opportunity to come here today.
I was so excited, half nervous,but now I'm chill, so, yeah,
that's great super fun.

J.R. (55:43):
Do you have any final ask from the audience or final
takeaways you'd like them tohave from this conversation?

Vanessa (55:48):
if you want to start content creating, just do it,
just do it, just do it and leavehim and leave him.
Don't forget that, please.

J.R. (55:56):
If you feel like this message resonates with you, you
should probably leave him, butif it doesn't apply to you, then
just for fun you know,everybody just listen up exactly
all right.
So where can we find you ifpeople want to check out what
you're up to or, you know,connect with you.

Vanessa (56:12):
Okay, I'm trying to get a more stricter Twitch stream
schedule so you guys can see melive on Twitch.
I'm on TikTok, mainly Instagramand hopefully YouTube there you
go Manifest it, put it out inthe universe.

J.R. (56:26):
Yes, yes, nice Well, vanessa, thank you so much for
being here.
I really appreciate it.
Hope you enjoyed it as much asI did and I'm sure the audience
would have learned a lot andreally enjoyed the vibes you
have, and they'll check you out.

Vanessa (56:38):
Oh yeah, I love the vibes here.
Yeah, thank you so much.

J.R. (56:41):
Of course.
So I'll do my final sign off.
So thank you guys for beinghere.
I really appreciate it leave,vanessa, some love in the
comments, wherever you'rewatching.
No hate, please go to thereddit thread if you want to
leave.
Hey, it's fine, or go defend meon there, yeah, or that, or
give her ideas for new content,please.
She's open to that, yeah.

(57:01):
So, yeah, thank you guys forbeing here um reminder to always
be kind to other people,especially yourself, and
remember that you can alwayslearn something from someone if
you take the time to listen.
So thanks for listening.

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