#46: Random Show with Lisa Doan - Food Blogging, Public Relations, Car Troubles, Parents, and More… - One Thousand Gurus Podcast

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J.R. (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of 1000
Gurus with me, your host, jrYonacruz.
Today's guest is Lisa Doan, andthis is a special random show
episode.
Lisa is a full-time registereddental hygienist who enjoys
partaking in all things foodierelated and documenting it all
on her foodie Instagram account.
She was born and raised inOrange County and recently moved
to Inland Empire.
She also enjoys dancing toK-pop, going to Disney parks,

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playing pickleball and hopes tobegin traveling to also
appreciate the goodies of theworld.
So this was our thirdinstallment of the special
random show format, joined by adear friend of mine, who I also
consider my younger sister.
She was so nervous the entiremonth leading up to the show as
she would periodically text meeach week reminding me how
nervous she was.
But honestly, I think thisepisode turned out great, as we

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chatted about a wide range oftopics, from her leadership
journey on our dance teamChoreos to food blogging
challenges she's had driving herTesla.
There's a good story there.
What kind of parents we wouldwant to be, our relationship
with our own parents.
And, to end it off, somethoughts on the current dating
market.
Unfortunately, we didn't get todrink on this episode like the
first two because we had plansright after.
It was actually our friend'sbirthday party, shastia.

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She was also a recent guest onthe show.
While I enjoyed this episode alot, I think Lisa traumatized
herself, so I don't think shewants to come back again, even
though she told me that she hada lot of questions she wanted to
ask me, but she was kind of toofocused and forgot.
But anyways, without furtherado, hope you enjoy this first
and probably only episode withLisa Doan.
Hello and welcome back to 1000Gurus, please welcome my guest

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Lisa.

Lisa (01:34):
I'm like unsure of where to look yeah, anywhere you want.

J.R. (01:37):
You can stare at yourself if you want.
So thank you for being here.
I really appreciate it.
You're totally not nervous andyou haven't been telling me the
last few weeks, but this will befun, kind of like what Solomon
just said off camera.
I think it'll be fun, let's see.
Let me go straight into how Iknow you.
So we met when you joinedChoreos in 2022, I believe.
Right Like winter, you were amid-year Lemon, so Winter Melon,

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and we had a handful of mutualsin the K-pop community and so
I've heard of you before youjoined the team.
And then eventually you joinedthe team, and then our fam, and
then we started dancing togetherfor a few years and then we
have like family hangouts andfood adventures here and there,
and then your birthday partiesat your house all the way in an
empire near Hemet.
And, let's see, this was yourlast year in choreos, but you're

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still doing some dancing and,yeah, you've made that commute,
which is pretty far.
How long is your drivetypically?

Lisa (02:28):
without traffic.
It's like an hour 45 withtraffic on a bad day, yeah,
which is like usually every daythat I have to go to choreos.

J.R. (02:36):
It's like two and a half hours nice perfect at least
anyway yeah, and it still suckseither way, but I guess it's
nice because maybe a tes Teslamakes that drive a little bit
more bearable, right that's whatI got it for.
Right, we'll go into your Tesladriving experience in a bit.
And yeah, so then you've alsobeen our PR manager on Coriolis,
on Elshare, for the last twoyears.

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Is that it?
Any other clarifications weshould?
Know, about or what else areyou up to Lisa?

Lisa (03:06):
I think that's it.

J.R. (03:06):
It sounds like my whole life revolves around choreos.
It basically did.

Lisa (03:08):
I mean at least it had for a couple of years, right, yeah,
but I'm excited to try newthings now.

J.R. (03:10):
Yeah, I've already read your bio by now in the audio
version.
They know what you're up to.
You're a dental hygienist andyou've been doing that for a
little bit.
You used to live in OC and nowyou still do that.
You still dance, and you're abig foodie as well, with your
like food blog, and then you andI both yelp elite, so sometimes
we'll do different events andstuff.
So I guess this is a randomshow because lisa is so nervous

(03:34):
she didn't want to beinterviewed, so we'll just be
talking about random topics,which is why I don't really have
any.
We have sort of planned topics,but not really anything else.
You want to say, or how are youfeeling before we jump in?

Lisa (03:45):
No, I'm just excited to yap.
I guess so excited yeah I waslike I don't really have much to
offer wisdom wise, but I canyap, so we'll do that yeah.

J.R. (03:54):
Well, I mean, that's the whole point of the show is that
I think on the surface level,you think only accomplished
people have wisdom to offer, butin my opinion, I think everyone
does.
You just have to dig in and askthe right questions and
approach it with like curiosity.
We'll talk about the firsttopic, which is again mostly
focused on you.
But that's totally fine becauseI'm curious.
But as PR manager, you'veorganized these collabs with

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different K-pop idols, like upand coming and whatnot, and you
help the team have these kind offun experiences, unique
experiences, interacting withthese professionals.
I wanted to ask you if you hada list of most interesting
collabs or most fun collabs orlike favorite artists you've
worked with most interestingwould definitely be a japanese

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group.

Lisa (04:41):
Actually they're called Psychic Fever and they were the
first Japanese group that, atleast since I've been on choreos
, that we've worked with.
But they were.
I guess when you're an idol,you have this like facade you
have to put on for people rightbe friendly, appreciate

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everywhere that you're going,what you're doing, all all your
fans, stuff like that.
But it was my first time seeingthem show like their mood.

J.R. (05:12):
What do you mean by mood?

Lisa (05:13):
Usually they're extremely happy, regardless of whether
they're tired or whatever,because they have a lot of
schedule and stuff.
But not to bash them, but italmost seemed as if they didn't
want to be there, but we justwrote it off as they were
probably tired with previousstuff yeah, because they were in
LA for maybe one to two weeks,which is a lot more than other

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groups usually would be.
Because they did a lot.
They met up with a lot of otherinfluencers as well.
Yeah, it was just interestingfor me to see.
They were almost too chill to apoint where it's like what are
we doing here?

J.R. (05:48):
Chill as in not super formal.

Lisa (05:50):
Yeah, but still not putting on their like crowd
pleasing kind of personality.
So that was pretty interesting.

J.R. (05:59):
Is it because maybe it's their like a Japanese group
that's different from like theK-pop groups that we typically
work with?
Is it a cultural thing?
Maybe?

Lisa (06:07):
That I'm not too sure, just because we have worked with
a couple other Japanese groupsafter them and they were more
like friendly and excited to bethere, or at least they made it
seem like they were.

J.R. (06:21):
They had more of that sort of front-facing idle
performance.
When I was there at theshooting for that, like when we
were filming on campus, it wasduring the protests, right?
So we were kind of trying toavoid those shots and like the
loud activity going around.
But it seemed like there were acouple of them who were super
friendly and nice, and thenthere were some professional

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mood-looking ones and maybe oneor two people who are kind of
like out of it.
I remember that, but I don'tknow if you had the same
experience yeah, no, you thinkit's.

Lisa (06:48):
Maybe that's their personality, but then it makes
you feel like you're stepping ontheir toes, so you can kind of
back up a little bit.

J.R. (06:55):
Yeah, I know remember the one guy with the cowboy hat was
super nice, the one who's ohyeah, he's my favorite, suriki
yeah, he was like veryaccommodating.
He went up to us and thenbonnie had a little breakdown
and then he was like comfortingher because, of like the shots
or something like that, becauseshe was filming.
So was that an interestingcollab.
Or do you have a story about,or a favorite artist that you
worked with?

Lisa (07:15):
that was interesting one.
I do have my favorite.
Our most recent one wasprobably the most fun one that I
did.
It was for're Korean, I think,but they have a lot of Japanese
fans, so I don't know they haveJapanese music as well, but yeah
, it's mainly in Korean.
They're called N-Sign.
I think they've been around fora couple years but I've never

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heard of them till now.
But our collab they were superchill.
The staff was super chill, veryaccommodating and they were.
They did not let languagebarrier become a problem because
they were still really verymuch trying to engage with
everyone.
All the was it me, and then wehad a couple other members
bonnie and aaron there to likefilm support and everything like

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that, and then the actualdancers.
So everyone was like having agreat time.
And then they invited us totheir concert as well and it
came with all of the not vipperks but like influencer perks,
so like we got like the behindthe scenes meet and greet with
them, and then they gave us anextra meet and greet afterwards

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as well.
So that was really.
Most groups don't invite us outto their concerts and stuff
like that.
So everyone very much became afan and signed that day and yeah
, I think overall it was apretty smooth process because
they were super organized withit.

J.R. (08:38):
I guess my question is why PR Like, why did you end up
doing this role?

Lisa (08:47):
PR.
Like why did you end up doingthis role?
Well, initially I signed up todo social media just because of
what I wanted to do as PR.
I just didn't know it was arole.
So it was to like, getopportunities for the team and
just get choreos name more known.
I guess core people knowchoreos already.
But it's like plateauingbecause I feel like the k-pop

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community, the dance community,is growing a lot, so everyone's
just on the same laying field,if that makes sense, yeah it's
like growing and evolving andchanging.
So it's kind of like we also aretrying new things and putting
ourselves out there to grow withit yeah, it's cool and all, but
I for me, I just want choreosto still be that group that like

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, if you're in the community,you know yeah yeah, and then
that on top of like just gettingopportunities for the team
because I wanted to marketchoreos in that way to potential
auditionees, just to get peopleto be like oh, oh, they
collaborate with a lot of people.

J.R. (09:48):
It's really cool.

Lisa (09:49):
Yeah, I want to do those things.
I should join choreo, so thatwas my passion.

J.R. (09:54):
Do you feel like it has panned out?

Lisa (09:56):
Yeah, for sure I found out some.
Well, they didn't make it intothe team, unfortunately, but
there were people that wanted tojoin choreos for that reason,
so at least my plan for that tohappen played out.
But going into it I did nothave any pr experience actually,
so it was really just passiondriving me at that point.

(10:18):
Yeah, we had a triple s collab,which is a pretty, pretty known
girl group, and that was thevery first thing I managed to
get on my own, like right offthe bat on L ship and I did not
know what I was doing, but Ithink it went pretty well.
Oh yeah, I was just nervous thewhole way yeah, I feel like.

J.R. (10:42):
I feel like most of what we do on the team, like as
leaders, it is just kind of likepassion leading the way and we
figure out as we go, especiallyfor our younger teammates who
don't have an experience inanything.
They're just figuring out andthat's the whole point.
What do you feel like are somegood tips or advice for doing PR
really well, now that you'vebeen in this position for a

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couple of years?

Lisa (11:05):
I don't know about pretty well because I don't know if I
did pretty well, but I feel likegood communication is probably
just the main thing you need.

J.R. (11:15):
What is good communication ?

Lisa (11:17):
Other positions on the team.
Just what is it?
Communicate with maybe one ortwo people to do their job, but
for PR you have to communicatewith everyone and update
everyone about what's going on,what we need to do before,
during and after so thateveryone's on the same page, and
so it's.
If details fall through thecracks, then people kind of mess

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up and that makes us lookunprofessional, and so it's
really just asking all thedetails that we need to know,
communicating all those detailsto the people that need to know,
and just everyone being on thesame page what about, like, any
advice or things that you'velearned about getting those

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opportunities?

J.R. (12:04):
Like, how would you advise someone?
Okay, if you're a team, k-popteam or whatever and you're
trying to find thoseopportunities and get them for
your team, what do you think aresome of the best advice?

Lisa (12:14):
Right now social media is a big driving force to get
groups' names out there so thatagencies can see hey, these,
these people get engagement.
Maybe they can be of benefit tous because, at the end of the
day, everyone, it's a businessfor everyone.

J.R. (12:31):
So they're just finding ways to get themselves out there
more and we're also trying toget ourselves out there more and
there's that, and then so, justlike building a platform is the
most, important thing, becauseif you have a engaged platform
and the businesses companies seethat, they're like, oh, let's
work with this person it seemslike the collab would benefit
both of us, right?

Lisa (12:51):
And then the main thing Choreos has that a lot of groups
don't is we already have.
We're like a namesake alreadyin the dance community and so a
lot of agencies already knowchoreos as being one of the
biggest groups in LA.
They have all this following,all these subscribers and stuff
like that, and so we have thatone advantage going for us for

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sure.

J.R. (13:15):
Okay, so that's like the key for overall key for trying
to get those opportunities isbuilding up that platform and
making a brand.
Yep, I don't know if you hadany questions, but my last
question on this topic is whatdoes it take to be a good leader
?
I know that's a very broad sortof question and I know our
experiences will be different,but I don't know what do you
think is important for leadingan organization like this?

Lisa (13:39):
One thing for sure is like patience and empathy, those two
going hand in hand to keepfiguring out solutions, trucking
on, and then they find thatyou're capable of taking all
this in, fixing it and moving onand they trust you to do those
things a little better.
And then also being firm withyour, just your decisions and

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just it's okay to be unsure, butonce you make a decision,
sticking with it, even ifthere's some pushback, you can
work through it but still standyour ground and that way people
feel like you're more confidentand, I think, overall respect as
well, because what is thesaying?
It's you have to.

(14:25):
It's not exactly, but you haveto respect people to receive
that respect deal.
So yeah, I think all of that ontop of respect is just For me,
the foundation of being a goodleader.

J.R. (14:41):
Yeah, I think that makes sense.
I agree with all of thosepoints.
Anything else before we move onto foodie topics and stuff?
I don't think so.
I think mostly what I want toask you about in terms of this
topic is like so why foodblogging and how'd you get into
it?

Lisa (15:00):
I like to eat first and foremost, but for food blogging
specifically, I think as of nowI just wanted a place to
document everything that I'vetried, just to keep track and
have a review of it as well,like an honest review, because
eventually I wanted to go intokind of like the foodie

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influencer type of platform.
But I'm still a little nervousabout that just because a lot of
accounts out there are.
More of this place is reallycool.
It's their food and drinks aresuper pretty, Everything tastes
great here and then a lot ofpeople go and they're like no,
it's definitely mid.

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So I want it to be more of anaccount.
That was like honest.
But I have this fear of what ifI go somewhere and it's like
really bad and I make this videosaying everything here is
really bad, yeah, and then Iruin their business.

J.R. (15:58):
Thanks, lisa, our livelihood's gone because of
your viral.

Lisa (16:02):
Yeah, but I don't know.

J.R. (16:04):
I want to be honest, but also I don't want to hurt people
.

Lisa (16:06):
So exactly maybe I'll just give everything a nine and up,
like so I wanted a happy mediumof that, but I don't know how to
do it.
Yeah, it's so funny figure thatout.

J.R. (16:14):
So you don't want to be like those marketers who are
just promoting something for themoney.
I'm not really honest.
Yeah, you see in the commentsno, this place sucks for sure.
I see that sometimes too, whereI'm like, okay, your shots look
great, the food looks reallypretty.
And then we look at the menuand like, okay, prices look
decent.
And then you see the commentsand you see the Yelp comments
You're like, wait, this placelooks like it sucks.

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And then it is.
I hate those videos where it'slike, oh, I'm tired of
gatekeeping this place.
I'm like you're not gatekeeping, your video is viral and you
did this on purpose.
You're not gatekeeping anything, it's just a hook.
That annoys me the most.
Yeah, I don't know what aboutyour Yelp experience?

(16:55):
So we're both Yelp elite andlike we go to these events and
whatnot.
I don't know how is it like?
I feel like it's deja vu.
These first two topics are thesame things to talk about with
Shirley, so Shirley from Shiro.
Out with Shirley, so Shirleyfrom Shiro.
But anyways, it's just dancingfoodie stuff yeah you're pretty
much the same, yeah.

Lisa (17:11):
So, like, how has Yelp gone for you?
For me, I mainly use Yelp as aplatform to find places that are
near where.
I am Not necessarily like tolook at reviews and go based off
of them, because I like to tryplaces, whether they're good or
bad, to make my own kind ofopinion.
But writing reviews is fununtil I realize I'm going to a

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lot more places and I need to bewriting them more consistently.

J.R. (17:37):
So that's my only downfall with yeah, there's like a
backlog of reviews you have towrite.

Lisa (17:41):
Yeah but being elite is fun because you get to go to
these events.
I was convinced that jr was theone that nominated me when I
got my yelp elite for somereason.

J.R. (17:53):
But you can't win it yourself.

Lisa (17:55):
You know that right yeah, but I didn't know that was a
thing.
So I knew you were yelp eliteand you were the only one I knew
that was.

J.R. (18:00):
So I was like maybe he nominated me anyone can nominate
you, and then you can nominateyourself but like who would
nominate me?
you know, because I was barelywriting reviews you know anyone
else who's active on Yelp?
No, you're the only one, Ithink.
I suspect that also sometimesthe community managers will go
through Yelp profiles and thendo that because I don't even

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know who nominated me.
I don't know if I nominatedmyself it was like years ago but
I have a feeling communitymanagers go through and see
who's like really active andthen throw you in there?

Lisa (18:30):
See, I wasn't, though.
That's why I was convinced itwas JR.

J.R. (18:35):
Now if you're saying that maybe it's just Yelp's platform
just throws people in, and thenyou're like, oh, I got nominated
, Let me put some effort in now.

Lisa (18:42):
Didn't earn it yeah.

J.R. (18:44):
But no, I think it's been fun for me too Free food and
stuff like that.
I'm pretty tight with mycommunity manager in Long Beach.
He throws me into a lot ofdifferent events and I would say
hi to him and he's super chilland then, yeah, like if there's
extra seats, he'll throw me inas well.
But he has some of the bestevents, like Long, shout out.
The reason why I like Yelp isbecause it's more honest than
those Instagram posts where it'sjust all hype and fluff and

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stuff like that.
Or at least I can go to Yelpand like, okay, I get the
general vibe of what people doand don't like about it.
And then, based on the priceand experience, like I'm the
same I like to try places outfor myself, but then I'm pretty
honest with the reviews.
Places I like will get fourstars.
Places that are amazing, thatgo above and beyond, I'll give
them.
I save the fives for them.
But then if you get a four forme, like that's already amazing.

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But I know businesses theyprefer fives.
Like I don't know what to tellyou.
This is how I scale them.
But then once in a great while,I'll save my one stars for like
this was just a shittyexperience, and whoever was I
interacted with made it evenworse, and so you deserve this
one wholeheartedly, but I don'tknow if you had similar
experiences.

Lisa (19:48):
I don't usually put ones or twos unless it's really bad
as well.
For me, though, when I do myreviews and rating and stuff,
it's mainly on the food.
A lot of times it's theaesthetic and the presentation
of the food and everythingreally don't do much for me, and
so it's if your food tastesgood and I guess if you have

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good customer service like youget a five.

J.R. (20:13):
Wait, but you're saying tastes good and customer service
, but you don't consider theaesthetics or the price.
Not really.

Lisa (20:19):
Okay, yeah.

J.R. (20:20):
Interesting that was.
My question was like what doyou look for in good experiences
?
So I guess that if you're abusiness and you want lisa to
give you a five, just make surethe food tastes good and you're
nice to her.
Do you have any?
Do you have any wrecks in ieocla top wrecks?

Lisa (20:33):
I know it's a huge list, but no, I feel like ocla is
there's way too many like goodplaces, but ie oh it's a smaller
group yeah, it's.
Yeah, not much good food outthere, you guys, but some gems
that I found, at least in thetwo years I've lived out there.
They're more lower down towardslike temecula, but there's,

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it's like din tai feng, it'scalled one more bite dumpling
house.
It's in wildemar, looks like amom and pop shop not too sure if
it is, but I feel like theirfood is pretty up to standard
with like din tai feng, paradisedynasty places like that.
There's also a really goodall-you-can-eat sushi place
called ryu sushi in temecula.

(21:19):
Can you spell that?
R-y-u?
oh like dragon, yeah, they looklike just a regular
all-you-can-eat sushi place, butI find that their fish quality
for being in Temecula is reallygood.

J.R. (21:32):
Yeah, it's hard for the fish to make it out there.
There's no water to swimthrough.
As a person who is all overInland Empire, oc and LA, what
are your go-to boba, milk tea,tea shops?

Lisa (21:45):
I don't have a go-to just because I just like to try
whatever's out there, but Ithink I typically recommend,
like Junebee.
I know some matcha connoisseurswill probably flame me for that
one.

J.R. (22:03):
I mean Chelsea likes Junbi right.

Lisa (22:05):
But people flame Chelsea for like Well, whatever.

J.R. (22:08):
Chelsea consumes by volume more matcha.
I'm sure Her blood is like halfmatcha.

Lisa (22:13):
Yeah, Junbi, and I like half and half Tea House.
I know they're not great ormuch, but what do you like about
them?
That they just haven't failedme yet.
I've tried different flavorsand they've all at least to me,
my palate have appealed it.

J.R. (22:33):
Okay, so then those would be your top places that you
would recommend.
What about if you could?
Just the first one is if youcould just teleport there and
get your favorite drink orfavorite place.
What would that place be?
And then two by volume where doyou go the most?

Lisa (22:49):
If I could teleport, probably Jam Jam.

J.R. (22:56):
What is Jam?

Lisa (22:56):
Jam Jam Jam Tea Lab.
They're in Irvine.
I don't know if they'reTaiwanese or what type of boba
shop, but they have a lot offresh fruit like brewed tea type
of drinks that I really like.
Their milk teas are really goodas well.
But yeah, they're out in Irvineso I'm not there.
Often Buy volume drinks,probably share tea I'm the same,

(23:23):
just by volume.

J.R. (23:24):
Too sure he's like pretty decent too.

Lisa (23:27):
I've gotten used to them and especially with inflation
and everything they're stillrelatively on the cheaper end,
that's true places.

J.R. (23:33):
I feel the same way about seven leaves as well.
Everyone knows that I tops,like I'm perhaps seven leaves
just by volume and just byrecommendations, but yeah,
haven't failed me, at leastanything else on food or food,
food blogging and stuff likethat.
Before we move on to theserandom topics, no no, no rex or
anything.
How can people become a greatfoodie like yourself?

Lisa (23:55):
I would not know, because I'm not just take pictures
honest be honest.

J.R. (24:00):
Be honest, but not too honest, because you don't want
them to go out of business juston the off chance that your post
blows up Cool, all right.
First random topic is driving aTesla.
You've had a lot of interestingchallenges with driving a Tesla
, but I'm sure you've enjoyedyour experience driving it.
I'm sure it's helped withdriving.
But do you have any personalchallenges along the way that

(24:21):
you had?

Lisa (24:22):
He's laughing because he knows.

J.R. (24:24):
I asked the question knowing what the answer is.

Lisa (24:27):
I got the car mainly because I knew I'd be commuting
a lot, so it was like on thetail end of me moving out to the
IE and I knew I wanted to stayon Corio.
That's what I thought I wouldbe saving on, but because of all
the driving I'm spending a lotto charge anyways, because one

(24:48):
full charge is there and back,unfortunately and the wear and
tear right, because you have tomaintain no, the amount of bugs
on my front bumper any anyaccidents or damages that
happened to happen.
So I got a windshield crack.

J.R. (25:05):
Oh, really, what kind of crack.

Lisa (25:06):
I was told after the fact that Tesla windshields are
especially weak to rock chips.
But yeah, I got it on the wayto choreo practice surprise and
it immediately cracked like along gash the same day.

(25:29):
So it was past repair already.
So I was like, okay, I'll justleave it until it's too bad how
long did you leave it?

J.R. (25:39):
for two years, wow, that's crazy.
So how big did this crack get?

Lisa (25:43):
by that point it got all the way across.

J.R. (25:46):
So for visualizing, it started in the top right corner
and then it cracked literallyall the way to the bottom left I
like this visual becauseimagine a map of the united
states right and then now put apoint where like maine is and
now draw like a road trip allthe way down to, like, san Diego
.
That's what her windshield looklike by the end of two years

(26:09):
Just a whole road trip down theUS.

Lisa (26:11):
That's not even the worst part, though.
I got it fixed, yeah, recently,and then three weeks in I hear
this like whistling sound.
I just leave it because Ithought I'd go away, but then I
tell them, hey, there's awhistling sound, and they're
like okay, take it in.
I take it in, they're like oh,it was a little misaligned, so

(26:31):
we fixed it.
The windshield yeah so theyfixed it.
A week after that I got anotherrock chip.
Perfect where?

J.R. (26:41):
where is this rock chip placed?

Lisa (26:42):
it.
It was on the driver's side.
It's probably in Oregon.

J.R. (26:49):
Oregon, the Northwest.

Lisa (26:51):
Yeah, but thankfully I got that one repaired.

J.R. (26:56):
You're like nope, not this time.
Yeah, I got a little kit.

Lisa (26:59):
He helped me repair it.
I can still see it.
But if you put the sunshadedown you can't.

J.R. (27:03):
There you go, cover it up.
That's how you deal withproblems yep, well, I repaired
it.

Lisa (27:08):
Yeah, not great, but I repaired it.
Would be 170 to repair just thetiny little.

J.R. (27:14):
I don't have insurance for windshields now, with this
experience also, it's funnybecause the handful of times
I've driven in your car, you'relike I'm a great driver and then
, like during that trip, it'slike because the handful of
times I've driven in your car,you're like I'm a great driver
and then, like during that trip,it's like you like scrape
against something he alwaysmakes that noise anytime I go
through a drive-through and itgives me anxiety.

(27:34):
Even then, you still sometimesyou like just kind of little
like the rim scrape and I'm likelisa, you just said you're a
good driver and you're showingme the opposite it's just just
when you're in the car.
It's just my availability.
Heuristic, you said you weregoing to ask me like if I would
get a Tesla.
Yeah.
I think I still would.
I think it just once it makessense to, because I got my car

(27:56):
what five years ago.
It still runs fine and I'm Ialways like to save money on
those sort of big purchases.
So until I need one I'mprobably going to hold off on it
.
But I would say, give me likeat least a couple more years,
because I do like the idea ofhaving technology that's updated
for something that I'm drivingso many hours.
So I am drawn to that.
But I don't want my car to getgraffitied as well, but I'm sure

(28:18):
that won't be a problem.

Lisa (28:20):
I'm still stay from it.
Yeah, you'll be fine, that'sgood.

J.R. (28:23):
Let's see.
I don't know if you had anyother questions, but I have
another one.
What is this is?

Lisa (28:34):
another random question, but what is one thing you've
changed your opinion on?

J.R. (28:36):
drastically compared to when you were younger.

Lisa (28:38):
She already wrote out all her answers.
She's trying to remember them.
Yeah, having kids, I guess.
Growing up I've always had thistraditional mindset from my
parents.
It's oh, you get married, youbuy a house, you have kids, they
get grandkids, stuff like that.
So I've, I always have done thething where it's oh, I want
this many, I want the boy or thegirl first, I want to name them

(29:01):
this, this and that.
But then growing up, as Irealized my flaws, my
discovering, your inability towrite honest posts, your honest
food reviews and maybe drivingsometimes.
Anyways, yeah, realizing myflaws, discovering new
personality traits like new,like any desires and stuff like

(29:25):
that, I realize that maybe I'mnot fit to be a mom or at least
take care of kids in general.
Like I can do the hanging outwith them, teaching them lessons
, short periods of time forstuff like that.
But I don't think I could dothe tasks that they depend on
you for, if that makes sense,like changing diapers, feeding

(29:49):
them, like taking care of ahuman.

J.R. (29:50):
Aren't those just basic?

Lisa (29:51):
tasks no.

J.R. (29:53):
You don't think those are learnable?

Lisa (29:54):
No, I could be the cool aunt.
That's what I could be.
But it's funny because, like onChoreos or like, even just like
throughout my life, I've alwaysbeen the mom friend I've have.
I have littles on choreos, asyou know, that they refer to me
as mother so I can help, bethere, guide them, give them

(30:17):
advice, listen to them, hang outstuff like that.
But they don't depend on me foranything for living.

J.R. (30:25):
Yeah, so it's not the, it's not the position of being a
mother and being there for them, but you're saying it's just
the actual tasks, like changingdiapers.
Taking care of a human, yeahand you're the oldest of three
siblings, or total four yeah,total four, yep and so I imagine
you are like that figure.
but the cool thing or, I don'tknow, the interesting thing is
you also have a big family andyou live with your parents, so I

(30:47):
feel like that would help toraise a child, wouldn't it?
Because you have a supportsystem.

Lisa (30:52):
It would if they depended on me for those things Like even
raising pets.
My parents and my siblings doit, and I consider them their
pets.
That's what.

J.R. (31:01):
I mean Like, yeah, you're the primary caretaker of
changing diapers, but at leastyou would have your family to
watch your kids and help withthat, right, I feel like that
would help.

Lisa (31:10):
I guess, but you're doing most of it as the parent.

J.R. (31:16):
Yeah, as the primary caregiver of your child.
Yeah.

Lisa (31:19):
Unless, I just hand it off to my mom.

J.R. (31:21):
Yeah.

Lisa (31:22):
I'm like, hey, I'm here to visit my kid, or okay.

J.R. (31:26):
Just like their foster parents.
Okay, here you go Interesting.
So it's mostly just that Didyou have?
What do you mean by other flaws, the inability to do these
tasks?
I don't know, I don't agree.

Lisa (31:50):
I feel like you can just learn those things.
But that aside, are there anyother aspects that you feel like
for motherhood you lack at thismoment?
If you want to share, I guessit's the discipline and also
patience, because I guess Irealized it more recently,
because at the office I work atthere's a lot of elderly, but a
lot of kids also come in.
They come in not to get theirteeth cleaned or looked at or
anything, but they come in withtheir parents who can't find
babysitters, and they so they'reoff in the corner, they're

(32:12):
crying, they're messing witheverything, just like I can't
deal with this right now.
So it's a big patience thing, Imean valid.

J.R. (32:24):
I feel like.
Is there anything else that youfeel like your opinion has
changed a lot since you wereyounger, besides wanting to be a
parent?

Lisa (32:33):
not that I can recall just like the biggest thing.

J.R. (32:36):
So the next one is as you've gotten older, how has
your approach to friendshipschanged, friendships,
relationship with your parentsand et cetera.
I'm just curious.

Lisa (32:47):
For friends.
I don't know.
I feel like it hasn't reallychanged For me.
All my friendships have alwaysbeen like I don't need to
benefit you in any way.
You don't need to benefit me inany way, if we enjoy each
other's presence, like that'senough for me to put in the
effort to maintain it, and ifyou decide you want to drop me,

(33:11):
then sure, but I'm not going tobe the first one to drop you.
That kind of deal.
I feel like I've always beenlike that yeah.
With my parents.
Low key I sound like a terribleperson.
Low key.
I feel like it's also apatience thing, my.
The older they get, the morejust like it's their memory and

(33:36):
asking for little things and Idon't know why my patience is a
little lower with them when it'smy.
Maybe you asked this because itwas my new year's resolution,
but the resolution for this yearwas to be gentler with my
parents and the way I talk tothem.
But I've just been a littlemore irritable with them as of

(34:01):
recently and I definitelyrealize it mainly because my mom
nags about it all the time butshe nags you about being
irritated with her yeah, sheinsists that I'm just like
always irritable and just alwaysa downer in the family.
But yeah, I know it and I'mtrying to fix it, but it's

(34:27):
definitely hard.

J.R. (34:30):
Again, a patient's thing, yeah I feel like that's a normal
thing too.
I think a lot of peopleexperience that, especially if
you live with your family oryour parents.
I think when I first lived withmy parents after graduating
college, it was kind of likethat, like tensions.
Actually, I was talking to mylittle brother about this.
He just moved to thePhilippines.
He's going into his first yearin high school and he was

(34:50):
telling me how he's never goingto see this.
But he's telling me how it'shard with him and our parents
because he wants, he loves themand respects them, but then they
kind kind of like don't givehim that same sort of respect.
I mean, he's a child, right andso like he has these ideas he
wants to say, but then he can'tbecause of that sort of culture

(35:11):
can't talk back to your parents.
Even if it's not disrespectful,it's still going to be
perceived as that.
So he feels this sort of likeangst about that or this sort of
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying.
Like it's like you can't reallysay something and you, but you
like someone you don't know youknow what I'm saying Like it's
like you can't really saysomething and you, but you like
someone.
You don't want to resent them,but you're in this situation
where you feel like they talkdown to you, and so I think it
makes sense when you live soclose with them and I told him,

(35:32):
once you move out and you'reyour own adult, your
relationship with them would getbetter.
That's the reason why I'm sofar away from my family, will,
and I have the same experiencewith, like with my parents and
my siblings mostly my sister andsometimes my parents where it's
like I'll spend time with them.
But I have had three months tolike, decompress from them, and

(35:52):
then I can handle like maybe aweekend with them.
But if I'm too close, sometimesI can get irritated as well,
and so I've been consciouslydoing the same, trying to be
better with being more patientand gentler with how I interact
with them, and I think,intentionally, that's been
helping a lot, at least for me.
Did you have any other thoughtson that?

Lisa (36:14):
I was going to ask do you feel like you?
Well, I guess it doesn't reallyapply, since you said it's.
Your relationship with yourparents is a little better, but
do you think you got any of thequalities from them?
Because I I asked that becausemy mom's always nagging me about
like you're always nagging andyou're always negative all the
time and stuff like that and I'mjust like you are the exact

(36:39):
same.
It's like where do you think Igot it from?
So you raised me and you'realways like this, so it's
inevitable that the same wayyeah, I don't.

J.R. (36:51):
It's hard to.
I don't.
I know what you're saying and Ithink most people are like that
.
I've gotten other things frommy parents, but not this.
I think I'm the most of mysister, my mom and my dad and
myself, I'm the mosthard-charging fire type whatever
, and I think it's just becauseI'm more like I don't know.
I want to say neurotic, but notreally.
I've mentioned this on thepodcast before.
There's other things I got forthem.

(37:12):
Like my dad, he's very, he'svery much a leadership, social
type person and even when Ivisit him, I'm always in awe
with how easily he can just makefriends with people around him.
I'm like, how, like, how do you?

Lisa (37:22):
do that.
It's a dad thing, it's well.

J.R. (37:24):
So one thing that I did get from him is just the dad
jokes and the silliness.
He's quintessentially that.
He's bold a lot, he like tellsjokes, he works out.
So those are like three, fourthings that I'm like like just a
carbon copy of him.
My mom, she's just a very kind,gentle person.
Mom, she's just a very kind,gentle person, very generous,

(37:47):
very grateful, and those arelike the main things I got from
her.
But I think personality wise,well, no, because my mom is like
the overbearing, protectivetype.
She listens to all theseepisodes so I know she's gonna
hear this, but she is like themake sure to look both ways.
For across the street and evenwith my little brother, who's
like taller than both of us, ifshe's driving and she has to
stop and she like kind ofreaches over to like race, I'm
like mom, you're like half ourweight and half our size, like
what are you going to do?
So my brother and I always likethat.

(38:08):
So she's a little bit moreoverbearing and that's like
always communicating stuff likethat, which is, I think, when
you're growing up and you'retrying to find out who you are
and kind of get on my nervessometimes.
But then it's on me to realize,like obviously she's doing that
because she cares not to likeactually bother me, and so my
botherness is my own problem,not hers, and I think that's.

(38:32):
I definitely did not get thatfrom her.
I think that's just like aparent child thing, maybe.

Lisa (38:36):
But who would you say you're more like?

J.R. (38:40):
I don't know it's, I would like to say my dad, because we
just have so many similarpersonality quirks, but he's way
more social and like that sortof fun guy and my mom is like I
don't know, she's very like softand like sweet, but I'm not
that.
But I've gotten my values fromboth of them, so like in terms
of what we believe in and how weact is the same, but

(39:02):
personality type like waydifferent.

Lisa (39:05):
Yeah.

J.R. (39:05):
Hard to explain.
My sister is a lot like my mom,though I feel like that's like
pretty clear.

Lisa (39:11):
All my siblings are like my mom, but my mom's always like
you're just like your dad.
I don't know if that's a bad ora good thing.
I think my dad is great.

J.R. (39:19):
What is your, what is your dad like in that situation
where she's saying you're likehim?

Lisa (39:24):
It's that nagging and negativity and stuff like that.

J.R. (39:26):
But you're saying they both nag or she nags you.

Lisa (39:29):
Yeah, that's what.

J.R. (39:30):
I'm saying she's just like oh, negative trait your dad.

Lisa (39:32):
That's why it's like you're nagging.
When she thinks I'm nagging,I'm like you're literally
nagging right now.

J.R. (39:39):
About my nagging.

Lisa (39:45):
Yeah, but I don't think me and my dad like necessarily nag
that much.
It's just pointing out thingsthat she's wrong or being
unreasonable about, and shefinds that as being nag, like
nagging and negative.
So, yeah, I do think I'm likemy dad as well, though, and I
find that it's not a problem atall to be like my dad, because

(40:06):
he's the same way where he'slike super friendly and he has
like extremely strong valuesabout like family and stuff like
that.

J.R. (40:14):
So, yeah, I'm pretty proud to be like my dad that's good
you said your siblings are morelike your mom, though.
Mm-hmm Like what are thosequalities?

Lisa (40:25):
They.
She speaks her mind a lot.
They don't actually, buteverything else they're more
like her, where it's puttingothers first and just how do I
say this, their humor theirhumor as well is also a little
off-putting.
I don't know.

(40:45):
There's a lot of things I can'tquite think of it right now,
but Okay.

J.R. (40:48):
My next thing was like the question I guess it doesn't
really go anywhere, but it waswhat kind of parent would you
aspire to be?
You don't want to be a parentright, at least as of right now,
but if you had to, what kind ofparent would you want to be?

Lisa (41:04):
whichever one raises me to be like me, I'm just raises my
kids to be like oh, to be likeyeah, I guess more, more
understanding understanding.

J.R. (41:17):
That's it, yeah, understand them how does fun?
That's what I'm saying you guys.
How do you be understanding andhow do you be fun?
What does that mean?
Asking for a friend.

Lisa (41:30):
I don't know.
I feel like you kind of need tobe a superhero of all things to
be a good parent.

J.R. (41:38):
I see why the task seems daunting to you.

Lisa (41:41):
If you feel like you need to be a superhero Understanding,
forgiving, but also strictenough, but not overbearing.

J.R. (41:53):
Oh, so a balance.

Lisa (41:54):
Yeah.

J.R. (41:55):
Oh wow, it's crazy.

Lisa (41:56):
Yeah, oh, wow, it's crazy.
Yeah, just be someone that yourkids can open up to, because I
know for a lot of my friendsit's like their parents want
them to open up to them, butit's like they're overbearing
because they're protective andso they don't.
Their kids don't want to shareanything with them and so, yeah,

(42:18):
if I were to ever be when I'mscared, that's gonna happen.
But and then if you're toorelaxed, then they don't like
obey and I don't know.
I also just want to be able tohave strong enough values to be
able to transfer that over to mykids as well, just so they grow
up to be good, decent people.

(42:38):
And the whole thing of puttingthem into different hobbies and
stuff.
I don't know if it's good to bethe type where you just decide
for them, just put them inwhatever you want them to be,
and maybe they'll grow into itand become that.
Or you just let them try amillion things, have them find
out for themselves.
But what if they never findsomething they like?

J.R. (43:01):
happy mediums it's hard yeah, I feel like I thought
about that too.
I feel like I would at leastquote-unquote force them into
things that I know are useful,like some sort of martial art
obviously, hopefully some sportbesides that, I think, some sort
of art type thing I think isgood, and like languages and
whatnot.
But other than that, I wouldstill encourage them to try a

(43:21):
lot of different things.
My friend who is on the podcastshe's a Dorothy, she's a dance
studio owner, and she said thatwhat she recommends parents is
to, even though their kids aresometimes too young to realize
or to know what they really like, sometimes it's on the parent
to just keep them in and helpthem have that experience like a

(43:45):
more long-term experience,because you don't really know
you're good at it or you like it, or sometimes those are
connected until you do it for adecent amount of time, and I
think that makes a lot of sense.
If you just put them in for aweek, that's not enough for them
to really experience anything,but maybe a year, a couple of
years, something like that, isprobably a little bit better
gauge.
So I feel like that's how Iwould approach it.

(44:06):
Yeah.
But I totally agree with thewhole.
Being a parent, I think basedon how I was raised not that
it's the same or different but Iwould also want to be a parent
who obviously does my job, keepsthem alive.
But what I don't want to be isthose parents who are tiger
parents, who are overbearing,but also they try to ready the

(44:29):
path for their child instead oftheir child for the path.
Meaning they try to carve outall these things for them, do
everything for them or put themon this path because that's what
they, the parent, wants them togo, as opposed to equipping my
kids with the mindset and theability to get through anything,
to commit to something, tofollow through, to put in the
hard work and I wouldn't praisethem for results, but I would

(44:51):
praise them for effort and forlike commitment, and then that
will make them more ready forwhatever path that they want.
And I would never dictate whatthey would want to do.
But, to your point, to listento them, to understand them, so
that I can identify what I feellike they want to do or what
they're good at, and then helpguide them in that direction,
give them the resources.
But other than that, I'd wantthem to become their own adults

(45:11):
and I think that, as anon-parent, I think my biggest
critique for parents is don'ttry to make your kids into
something that they're not,because that's just going to
make them resent you and that'snot good for either of you.
But if you do your best toprovide a safe, comforting
environment and then help themgrow into the person they're
meant to be and accept them asthey are, you'd have a better
shot at figuring out themselvesin their life.

(45:33):
Obviously, it's in theory rightLike my parents have more
experience with raising kidsthan I do, but that's just how I
see it.

Lisa (45:39):
Would you say your choreos fam is your practice.
I guess.

J.R. (45:43):
So I would like to think that it feels like it, because
it feels like being a parentwhere it's okay.
You want to do a lot for themand you want to show them that
you care, you want to be therefor them, and then you get
nothing in return.
That's what I feel likeparenting is like, and now
having my own children onchoreos it makes me appreciate
my parents more, because theydid the same thing for the last

(46:04):
30 something years is they gaveme everything.
They didn't.
I'm lucky.
My parents never reallyexpected anything from me or
they never asked me for anything.
So I really appreciate them forthat.
But now that I'm older and I'min this sort of parental
position, I appreciate them evenmore for what they did, because
I didn't appreciate it orrecognize it until now, because
it's like it's just there.
You're like oh, you're supposedto love me, you're supposed to

(46:25):
give me all this stuff, you'resupposed to whatever X, y and Z.
And both my parents are likethat.
They just give to me withoutany expectations, and that's not
how their parents were.
And so now that I'm doing thesame, I'm like, oh wow, I really
should not expect anything inreturn, because that's how it's
like to be a parent.
So I guess that's my mainexperiences.
Also, this is what it's likebeing a parent you don't get any

(46:45):
rewards, but you just give, andthen you learn how to be a
giving, loving person,unconditionally, without.
It's different than afriendship, whereas, like you,
expect the friendship to bemutual, where it's OK, like we
both input into this account ofa shared friendship, and then
sometimes we both withdraw onceand but we also input, deposit

(47:05):
into this account, and so wekind of have this mutual trust
and respect and then arelationship builds off of that
and it's we choose to be there.
But with a parent child, in myopinion it's no.
Your parent, your kids, willprobably never appreciate or
reciprocate your actions, butyou do so anyway, and that's
what I learned from my parents,is that you still do so anyways,

(47:26):
because for most of my life Idon't think I appreciate them as
much as I should have, and soI'm like, oh, that's what it's
like.
Okay, now I understand I would.
I would want to have kids oneday.
I definitely still am on thattrack.
I, I guess just to answer thequestion.
It would be nice, but not mytiming.

Lisa (47:42):
JR is very much a father.
It's funny because he doesboyfriend things like he would
do for his girlfriend Blessy andme and my little Alex.
We'd be like, oh my god, he's aboyfriend, he's a boyfriend
thing.
It thing is so weird becausewe're like no, JR is father.

J.R. (48:00):
yeah, well, yeah, I mean, yes, you just learn how to do
that role right, like you justtake care of the people you care
about.
I don't know, I think it'sdifferent, but yeah, it's also
interesting because it's I don'tknow, aside from you, lisa, I
think honestly you're the onlyperson I would consider a friend
out of my littles.
I think my other littles, like,I don't think you're the only
person I would consider a friendout of my littles.
I think my other littles, likeI don't think they're my friends

(48:20):
which is a weird thing to say.
I guess I try to understand thenuance of what I'm saying is
like friends are like yeah, it'sbecause she's old, actually
that's the only reason whyBecause it's like friends,
you're there for each other,right, and it's like you show up
for each other to their partiesand stuff like that.
But for my other littles andgrand littles, great grand
littles, all this other stuff,like I know I'm not their friend
but I'm their big, so it's likeI enjoy being that person for

(48:43):
them, but I don't feel like theywould consider them a friend
and I think it goes both ways.
But except for you presentparty excluded, because Lisa
actually invites me to herbirthday and parties and stuff
like that.
And she actually asks me tohang out and eat with her.
So I'm like, okay, lisa is myfriend and my little, yeah, okay
, anything else.
Otherwise I'm going to ask youabout dating we still have time

(49:03):
for that.

Lisa (49:04):
We definitely have time for that.
Yeah, that's, I think that's it.

J.R. (49:07):
I only want to ask this because we've had, when we've
carpooled before we'vedefinitely a lot of
conversations when you were inthe dating market and kind of
philosophies and thoughtprocesses.
So I thought it'd beinteresting.
But I don't know general datingtips, advice for guys and for
girls.
I know you've been out of itfor a little bit but I don't
know.
Your stories were interesting.

Lisa (49:27):
Let's see, most of my dating experience is just the
apps.
I feel like a lot of peoplewould agree that's like the only
way to meet people these days.
Yeah, that's where I met mycurrent boyfriend.

J.R. (49:40):
But thankfully it worked out.
Yeah, but I'm sure.

Lisa (49:43):
Hopefully it will continue to work out.
But my youngest sister juststarted dating and the things
that I've been telling her is tojust go into it with an open
mind of I'm trying to find outwhat type of people I'm
interested in and what kind ofvalues that I would want from a

(50:05):
significant other.
But don't make them think howdo I say this that they're like
a test subject.
You know, like, go into it witha I'm just seeing, but also
maybe you could be like mylong-term partner.
So treat every date a littlemore seriously.
I know some people would saythe opposite.

(50:25):
Where it's oh, you're justmaybe yeah, have fun one and
done.
You're just seeing.
But I've always been the typeto date, a lot more exclusively
like I go into one and then Itest it out for a while until
I'm like, ok, you're really notthe one for me, so then you move
on.

J.R. (50:43):
So you're saying it's not just like the attitude going
into, that first date iswhatever, this isn't serious,
but actually like trying orgiving it a good effort before
just writing it off.

Lisa (50:53):
Yeah, gotcha, I don't know , I don't have, I don't have
very many good datingexperiences.

J.R. (50:59):
That's what I want to hear about, but like I don't know
worst day experiences or likebiggest red flags people should
look out for, I guess in thecontext of someone like your
sister who's going into the shitshow of dating apps and whatnot
.
I don't know, I've never heardof anyone having good
experiences until they findsomeone right Like miraculously,
but I don't know what.
Would you give those youngergirls advice, or just girls in

(51:20):
general?

Lisa (51:22):
that's hard because everyone, yeah, prefers
different things.
Sure, like I know, for me andmy best friend we have
completely different oh, liketypes yeah, and so it's some
things I find that she likes.
I'm like that's a terriblething and she's totally fine
with it but do you think appsare the best way to meet people?

J.R. (51:41):
some sometimes people say it is like objectively, because
by volume, but some people sayno, I've never had a good.
My experiences that were goodwere always like organically, in
person or whatever.
Do you have thoughts on that?

Lisa (51:52):
for me.
I find that it's the easiestway at least because unless
you're working in a place thathas people that could be your
type or, like you, have friendsthat also have friends who they
could hook you up with, there'snot too much of that at least

(52:12):
not for me, because I guesswhere I went to school in Orange
County, all the guys there werenot my type there's so many
Asians in OC though, I know, butthe same type of Asians.
The ones that are good are veryrare or taken.

(52:34):
So yeah, and then all myfriends.

J.R. (52:38):
We tend to hang out with girls and I'm into men oh wow,
shocker yeah, so it's just hardto find anyone organically that
way I was talking with a mutualfriend of ours I won't out her,
but she was saying how it's kindof scary okay, this person's in
college, so narrowing it down,but this, it's scary to think

(53:02):
that like she wants to be in arelationship or get into
whatever when she's in collegebecause she knows that as you
get older in the workforce, likeyour social circle gets smaller
, which is true, right, unlessyou put an effort to expand your
circle or be engaged or findnew circles.
So that for her is one reasonwhy she wants to find a
relationship in college, becauseit's easier, because there's so

(53:24):
many different collision pointswith people, and so I think
that makes sense.
But I'm conflicted because inhindsight I know that that's not
always the best time to it is,but it isn't, because I feel
like the most effective time todate is what as you're growing
your self-awareness, your values, your boundaries and your

(53:44):
ability to communicate and havea relationship with someone, and
that is almost never going tobe when you're very young.
But it's like a hard balancebecause I know that people want
to be relationships and it'snormal and all these hormones
and stuff.
But I don't know most of myyounger relationships like when
I was early 20s and even before.

Lisa (54:01):
That never turned out right because I was definitely
not ready for it but it's hardto tell someone that right yeah,
no, yeah, I would say Idefinitely couldn't navigate my
current relationship without theexperience of my past ones, and
I don't know if for her, she'sfinding it easy to navigate
those problems.
But I guess it is better if shehas people to talk to, like you

(54:24):
, to share your experience, andthen she can learn that way.

J.R. (54:28):
Yeah, the last person I had on the show.
her episode just came out,Vanessa she was talking about,
like her relationships and likeher toxic relationship when she
was much younger and she saidthe whole thing about making
sure to have a community,because at least you have a
community around you.
And if you can't see your blindspots, obviously when you're in
love quote, unquote but atleast if your community around
you, who you trust, is tellingyou, hey, there's something here

(54:50):
that's not right or there'ssome red flags, that's a good
sign to get that third partyperspective.
I feel like that's a good.
Rule of thumb is listen to yourfriends, guys and your people
who care about you, because theycan definitely see past your
blind spots.
Yeah, anything else on datingthat you feel like would be
valuable or hot takes no, I justhave terrible stories, but I
want to do trauma dumping today.

(55:12):
That's what we wanted okay, it'sfine, because I think we're
wrapping up on time anyways, allright, last thoughts or
takeaways or anything you wantto throw in there before we just
have our last two questions no,that's it okay, all right.
Well, we'll end with gratitude.
Shout out to my mother what areyou grateful for, lisa?

Lisa (55:31):
the typical friends family my boyfriend for supporting me
and everything I do, choreos forhelping me develop my
leadership skills and being myclose knit circle of friends for
a long while.
And JR.
I'm always grateful for JR.
He's taught me a lot.
I did it guys.

(55:52):
I finally got the shout outCool.
So where can people find you ifthey want to see what you're up
to, connect, etc I have a it'slike a k-pop post, whatever
account, it's lisakr kr forkorea, and I also have my food
instagram that I just post nicepictures the occasional I'm just

(56:16):
eating um at noms for lisa.
If you want to follow that onenice.

J.R. (56:21):
Yeah, I'll link both of her socials so you guys can
check out what she's up to.
Okay, lisa, that is it.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
I really appreciate it.
This felt like a half interview, half random show, because it's
like let's just hear what lisahas to say she's yapping.

Lisa (56:34):
It's fine.
If you get some wisdom nuggets,it's fine.

J.R. (56:37):
People just enjoy hearing people talk and just hearing
their thoughts, like turning offtheir brain and listening to
our yapping so, anyways, thankyou lisa again for being here.
I really appreciate it for youguys.
I'll do my sign off.
Please like, subscribe, followwhatever, leave us comments.
Leave lisa love in the commentsbelow, wherever you're
listening to this.
I haven't asked for reviews,but I don't know.
Leave me five stars whereveryou're listening to this.

(56:57):
I guess That'll help, but dowhatever you want, I guess.
So, yeah, thank you guys forbeing here.
I appreciate it.
Be sure to Reminder to alwaysbe kind to other people,
especially yourself, andreminder you can always learn
something from someone if youtake the time to listen.
So thanks for being here.

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