August 21, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode of the 'One Yes At A Time' podcast, hosts Keidra and Susan discuss love from a biblical standpoint. They talk about the different types of love found in the Bible - Eros, Phileo, Agape, and Storge - as well as the combination of friendship love and familial love, philostorgus, that Paul speaks of when describing love for other brothers and sisters in Christ in Romans 12:10. The conversation covers the concept of love being an action, referencing Gary Chapman's book, 'The Five Love Languages'. Susan shares her belief that God's love language is obedience, referencing 1 John 5:3 that says, "And this is love for God... that we obey His commands and his commands are not a burden." They explore different passages that define what Christlike love looks like in action. The discussion also includes insights on loving one's enemies and highlights the significance of love as the ultimate expression of God's character. They conclude by encouraging believers to live out these principles in their relationships, affirming that genuine love reflects God's heart and character.
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Keidra Hobley (00:00):
Welcome to the One Yes At A Time podcast.
(00:02):
I'm Keidra...
here with my friend Susan...
and we're gonna talk about lovetoday.
Faith.
Hope.
Love.
Notice The pattern?
So here we go.
The topic of love is such abroad topic...
just like faith.
And we can go in multipledirections with this, but one of
the first things I thoughtabout, is that there are
different types of love.
That's right.
Yeah.
Eros..
A physical love is, it's a lovebetween a husband and a wife.
(00:23):
Right.
You know, that sexual love.
And then phileo?
Is that right?
Susan Dies (00:28):
Phileo.
Keidra Hobley (00:29):
Phileo, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm thinking about a steak.
Okay, but that's the brotherlykind of love.
That's right.
A friendship kind of love.
And then Agape.
Agape is the sacrificial,unconditional love of God.
And that's the one we asbelievers often focus on and
then is there a fourth one?
Susan Dies (00:46):
There is a fourth one...
and I just learned this.
It's storge.
It's familial love, like betweena parent and a child, or
brothers and sisters, orextended family.
And all four of these types oflove are found in the Bible.
But there's also this oneinstance in Romans 12:10, where
phileo love and storge love iscombined...
philostorgus.
(01:07):
It's a combination of friendshiplove, and familial love.
So this is the kind of love wehave for brothers and sisters in
Christ...
other believers who are likefamily to us...
because they're our spiritualfamily, even though they're not
related to us by blood.
And yet if you think about it asChristians, we are blood related
to other believers...
just not by our own blood, butby the blood of Jesus that was
(01:29):
shed for us.
Keidra Hobley (01:30):
That's beautiful.
And, and When you think aboutlove, it's actually a verb.
So It has action.
That's right.
You know, it's not a feeling.
It's a decision that results inan action.
And so, as we study things likethe love languages..
Mm-hmm...
those are actions.
What's your love language,Susan?
Susan Dies (01:47):
Mine is Words of affirmation.
Keidra Hobley (01:49):
Okay.
Yeah.
I have a sign posted in mykitchen that I thought was gonna
help my children...
'cause I taught my childrenabout love languages at a very
young age.
And the sign that I have putright above the sink in my
kitchen is, I like hugs...
I like kisses...
but what I really love is helpwith the dishes."
Susan Dies (02:07):
So that's physical touch and acts of service kind
of combined?
No, that's acts of service.
Oh, okay.
Keidra Hobley (02:11):
Solely.
It's like, I like hugs, I likekisses, I like those things...
but what I love is help with thedishes.
That was my way of trying totell them, can somebody help me
with the dishes?
So one of the love languages,acts of service.
Yours is words of affirmationand then there's three others?
Susan Dies (02:26):
Right.
Gary Chapman wrote a book calledThe Five Love Languages, and he
talks about these five differentways that we express and receive
love through acts of service..
Mm-hmm...
physical touch...
words of affirmation...
gifts...
and quality time.
And the way we receive love isour love language.
Yeah.
And I believe God has a lovelanguage and I think it's found
(02:49):
in 1 John 5:3.
It says,"And this is love forGod: that we obey his commands
and his commands are not aburden." Mm.
The way we express genuine lovefor God is not through our
words, but by our willingness totrust him and to obey him.
And so I think his love languageis obedience.
(03:09):
What do you think about that?
Keidra Hobley (03:10):
Oh, that just did something to me.
That is the best thing I'veheard all day.
Like, that is beautiful.
God's love language isobedience.
I never even thought about itlike that, but that is
beautiful.
Yes.
Susan Dies (03:20):
And not because he just wants us, to do what I say
to do.
The reason it shouldn't be aburden is every single thing
that God has ever told us todo..
Mm-hmm...
or not to do...
every boundary he's ever set forus was an expression of his
love.
That's beautiful.
He's trying to keep us safe.
He wants the very best for us.
Mm-hmm.
And so when we believe that he'sa good God, that he's a good
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Father, that all of the thingshe says to us in His word is out
of love for us...
and we choose to trust him..
Yeah...
and we choose to show that trustthrough our obedience to him..
Yeah...
that is a genuine expression ofour love to him that he
receives.
I believe.
Keidra Hobley (03:59):
That, oh my goodness.
When you were saying that theLord just showed me Peter.
When Jesus was restoring Peterback to himself essentially...
when he said,"Peter, do you loveme?" And what did he say?
Then feed my sheep.
Right?
That's the obedience part.
If you love me, then you'regonna obey me.
You're gonna do what I've askedyou to do.
You're gonna do what I askedyou..
And you're gonna trust me.
Yeah.
(04:19):
That's so good.
I never thought about it likethat.
Susan Dies (04:22):
I think about the fact that Peter was one of
Jesus's three best friends.
Yeah.
He said, I would even die foryou.
Yeah.
You know, he was just declaringhis loyalty to Jesus.
Mm-hmm.
And Jesus said, you're gonnadeny me three times..
Yeah...
before the rooster crows.
Mm-hmm.
And Peter was saying,"No, Lord,that will never happen." And of
course..
It did...
everything Jesus says comes topass.
(04:43):
Yes, it's exactly what happened.
He denied him three times.
But what's so beautiful is thatwhen he restored Peter, he asked
him three times, do you love me?
Yeah.
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Yes, Lord, I love you.
Exactly.
You know that I love you.
He gave him three chances tooffset the betrayal of those
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three times when he said, Idon't even know him.
And you can hear it in Peter'svoice.
He wants Jesus to believe him.
And of course we know that Jesusdid believe him, but I just love
that he gave him those threeopportunities when he was being
restored.
Keidra Hobley (05:19):
That's so beautiful.
That's so good.
So I've jotted down a couple ofverses from the word..
Mm-hmm...
that speaks to love.
Okay.
And so I just want us to justkind of chat about them.
Is that okay?
Okay.
That sounds great.
Of course, the first one thatcomes to all of our minds..
Mm-hmm...
if we know Jesus is John 3:16.
That's right.
"For God so love the world thathe gave his one and only son,
that whoever believes in himwill not perish, but have
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everlasting life." Yes.
I guess I probably should justgo ahead and share Romans 5:8
too, because it's similar.
"But God showed his great lovefor us by sending Christ to die
for us while we were stillsinners." Love is willing to die
to self.
Hmm.
Jesus literally gave his life.
He did.
And so the expectation...
(06:03):
if Jesus gave his life, then hisexpectation is that we'll be
willing to give ours.
Death to self is a form of dyingto express a level of love.
Susan Dies (06:12):
Right.
Yeah.
And it's difficult.
Keidra Hobley (06:14):
It's very difficult...
to die yourself.
It's very difficult.
What does that even mean...
to die to self?
To be willing to give up what Iwant for what someone else
wants.
That's right.
To be willing to give up my wayfor God's way.
To be willing to say no toKeidra so that somebody else can
get a yes.
Mm-hmm.
So it's the everyday decisionsthat we make when we put others
(06:36):
before ourselves.
That's dying to self.
Susan Dies (06:38):
Right?
Mm-hmm.
When I think about John 3:16, Ithink of that as the ultimate
sacrificial love.
I mean, for God to show us thiskind of love, literally cost him
everything.
Everything.
Because Jesus was and is God inthe flesh.
And so God gave his one and onlyson.
I don't know anyone else whowould be willing to do that.
(07:00):
And then you mentioned Romans5:8.
You said, God demonstrates hisown love for us in this, that
while we were still sinners."Yeah.
This is everyone...
we're all sinners.
And so God doesn't just lovethose that the world considers
to be good.
God loves everyone...
and I'm so grateful for thatbecause I'm one of those
sinners..
(07:20):
Mm-hmm...
that Christ died for.
Mm-hmm.
Keidra Hobley (07:22):
And, you pointing out while we were sinners.
Like even dying to self...
how we demonstrate love to otherpeople while they're still doing
that thing we don't like thatthey do.
Hmm.
While they're still, pushing ourbuttons...
while they're still getting onour nerves.
Can we just be real about it?
Oh, yeah.
While they're still doingthat...
(07:44):
we still choose to love.
Right.
And that's where dying to selfcomes into play.
So I like that you pointed outwhile we were sinners, that
Jesus still chose to die for us.
Susan Dies (07:54):
Right.
And we can love someone and notlike what they're doing.
Oh, that's so good.
I think that's important.
That's so true.
A good distinction.
Keidra Hobley (08:00):
Okay, let's look at another verse.
This is fun.
How about Matthew 22:37-40?
This passage says,"Jesusreplied, you must love the Lord
your God, with all your heart,all your soul, and all your
mind, this is the first andgreatest commandment.
A second is equally asimportant.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
(08:22):
The entire law and all thedemands of the prophets are
based on these twocommandments." All right.
What do you take from thatverse?
Susan Dies (08:30):
All consuming love for God that involves our whole
heart, mind, body and soul...
that then spills over ontoeveryone else..
That's good...
when we're loving God in thatway.
And the Bible tells us that Godis love...
so if his love for us is allconsuming, it only makes sense
that the greatest command is forus to have the same all
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consuming love for God and forothers.
The first commandment is lovethe Lord your God...
but the second is like it.
Mm-hmm.
Love others as yourself.
Yeah.
The way you care for yourself.
Yeah.
And a lot of times that's byputting self first.
Mm-hmm.
And what he's saying is don'tput self first.
Put others.
Put others first.
Yeah.
(09:11):
Because that's what God has donefor us.
Keidra Hobley (09:13):
That's so good.
I also look at it from theperspective if I don't love
myself, then I can't loveothers.
Right.
I like the fact that youmentioned it is loving the Lord
first in all these ways...
with all your heart, all yourmind, all your soul.
That's what's gonna help me loveothers.
So it's connected.
It's, isn't it?
Susan Dies (09:33):
It's connected.
It is.
And it is important to have thatkind of healthy love..
Mm-hmm...
for self, that comes from thelove that God has poured into
our hearts..
Yeah...
through his spirit.
And then we're able to pour thatsame healthy love out onto
others.
Keidra Hobley (09:47):
Yeah.
So good.
So good.
What about, John 13:34-35?
"So now I am giving you a newcommandment: love each other
just as I have loved you.
You should love each other.
The love for one another willprove to the world that you are
my disciples." If people cannottell that something is
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different...
in the way we love...
then we are not being goodexamples of Christ in the earth.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
'cause it says your love for oneanother will prove to the world.
We can talk about Jesus all day.
We can share the gospel all day.
We can read scripture all day.
We can pray all day.
But if we aren't loving people..
Mm-hmm...
then we're not gonna be able toprove to the world that we're
(10:30):
actually his.
Susan Dies (10:31):
That's right.
When I think about John13:34-35, which you just read, I
think about compassionate love.
Okay.
And I say that becausecompassionate love centers on
the good of others.
To love one another is not a newcommandment..
Mm-hmm...
even though it says, a newcommandment I give you.
It's a clarification of God'soriginal command to love each
(10:52):
other.
Mm.
And Jesus emphasizes love othersas I have loved you.
When Jesus told his disciples tolove one another in this way, he
had just finished washing thedisciples nasty feet.
Okay.
That's a job that's normallyreserved for servants.
The point being that our lovefor one another should come from
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a heart of humility..
Mm-hmm...
instead of what's in it for me.
Mm-hmm.
And so to love one another...
is to serve one another..
Yeah...
in love.
Mm-hmm.
And when you do this, whenyou're putting other people
first..
Yeah...
when you're willing to humbleyourself for the sake of other
people...
that's how people outside thechurch can look at God's church
(11:32):
and say...
there's something differentabout them.
Keidra Hobley (11:35):
Yeah.
That's so good.
That's so good.
I'm going to the verses thattalks about, if your brother
tries to steal your shirt, givehim your coat.
Mm-hmm.
If he slaps you to turn theother cheek...
you know, those types of things.
You have to have the love ofChrist in order to be able to do
those types of things.
Susan Dies (11:50):
That's right.
But because it's so differentand it's not what people
expect..
Right...
it stands out.
Yes.
And when it said if someoneforces you to go one mile, go
two.
Yeah.
People were being forced to gotwo miles and you would think
they would be upset about that.
Mm-hmm.
But someone who's filled withthe love of Christ..
Yeah...
takes that as an opportunity tohumble themselves and to
(12:12):
actually serve them.
So really it takes the sting outof being forced to do it..
Come on...
'cause you really didn't forceme to do it.
Right.
I chose to do it.
Yeah.
And so that gives you adifferent mindset.
Yeah.
If that makes sense.
Keidra Hobley (12:23):
It does.
It goes back to the verse inColossians that says everything
that we do...
do it as unto the Lord..
Mm-hmm...
and not as unto men.
That's right.
And when we take that position,then it doesn't matter what
people throw at us, it is'causewe're, we're offering it back as
a sacrifice to the Lord.
Susan Dies (12:36):
That's right.
I used to think to myself, thereare a lot of things that I would
not do for other people.
Mm-hmm.
Some things I wouldn't evendo...
for myself, but because of whatChrist has done for me..
Yeah...
if He ask me to do it, I'm gonnado it.
And sometimes when it's hard, Ijust envision Christ up on that
cross..
Mm...
dying for me...
and saying, Susan, will you doit for me?
(12:58):
Oh.
And I can do it for him.
Yeah.
But I have to get that mindsetgoing..
Yeah...
'cause sometimes it's reallyhard..
Yeah...
to die to self.
That's so good.
That's a beautiful illustration.
Oh, I love that.
Keidra Hobley (13:09):
No pun intended.
All right.
One Corinthians 13, as we know,is the love chapter.
1 Corinthians 13 tells us someof the characteristics of a God
kind of love.
It says,"Love is patient.
Love is kind.
It does not envy.
It does not boast.
It is not proud.
It does not dishonor others.
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It is not self-seeking.
It is not easily angered.
It keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil,but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, alwaystrust, always hopes.
Love, perseveres and love neverfails.
Mm-hmm.
Like, come on.
That almost seems unattainable.
(13:51):
Right?
Susan Dies (13:51):
It is.
Because this is describing God'sperfect love.
Mm-hmm.
And the thing that stands out tome in this passage is that Paul
lists just as many things thatlove is..
Mm-hmm...
as he does...
that love is not.
Yeah.
And I think that's importantbecause love isn't always what
we do.
Sometimes love is seen just asclearly by the things we choose
(14:15):
not to do.
Keidra Hobley (14:15):
Oh, that's good.
Susan Dies (14:16):
So yes, we feel loved when someone is patient
and kind, but we also feel lovedwhen someone chooses not to be
irritable, or arrogant, or rude.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The other thing that caught myattention is verse 13, where it
says,"these three remain...
meaning these three areeternal...
faith, hope and love..
Mm-hmm...
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but the greatest of these islove.
And so I was thinking, why islove greater than faith?
Why is love greater than hope...
if all three things are eternal?
Mm-hmm.
And the answer is reallytwofold.
Number one, the Bible says thatGod is love.
Yeah.
And there is nothing greater.
And the second thing is inheaven, our faith is gonna be
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made sight.
Right?
Yeah.
And all of our hopes are gonnabe fulfilled.
And so faith and hope will nolonger be needed once we're in
the presence of God..
That's so good...
who is love.
Yeah.
And so one day when we standbefore God, all that's gonna
matter are these threequestions?
Did we have faith in God?
Did we place our hope in God?
(15:19):
Yeah.
And did we accept the love ofGod that he offers to us in
Jesus?
That's so good.
Faith, hope, and love.
Keidra Hobley (15:25):
That's beautiful.
Like I never really thoughtabout that...
the fact that faith and hopewill no longer be needed in
glory.
I don't need to have faith inGod at that point because I'm
standing before him.
That's right.
I don't have to have hope foreternity because I'm living in
it.
Susan Dies (15:40):
Yeah, and he's already made all things right
and new.
Yeah.
So everything that made us feelhopeless this side of heaven is
no longer an issue.
Come on.
Amen.
Keidra Hobley (15:50):
Amen.
How about a couple more?
Wanna do a couple more?
Okay.
Let's look at Matthew 5:44.
This verse says, Love yourenemies." Okay, now it's getting
real.
Okay?
"Pray for those who persecuteyou." That's an instruction from
the Lord.
It's not a suggestion, it's aninstruction.
Love your enemies, pray forthose who persecute you.
(16:10):
So Godly love is not dependenton whether or not the recipient
is worthy of it.
Susan Dies (16:16):
Mm-hmm.
That's what I call thisimpossible love.
Oh, I love it.
But verse 45 tells us why he'sgiven us this command.
Okay.
It's so that you may be sons ofthe father.
Mm.
We are never more like God thanwhen we are loving our enemies..
Yeah...
when we're praying for those whopersecute us, and I'm not sure,
but I think this is probably thehardest command in all of
(16:38):
scripture.
Yeah.
Even harder than God's commandto forgive the people that hurt
us.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it's one thing to beable to forgive someone, but to
love an enemy, you know, that'sa whole other thing altogether.
Yeah.
And to pray for an enemy, itjust goes against everything in
our human nature.
And so I got to thinking, whatdoes loving an enemy look like?
(17:01):
Yeah.
You know?
And I'm not talking about theperson who hurts our feelings
or, speaks badly about us, oreven that person in our life
who's so miserable that theywanna make everyone around them
miserable.
Mm-hmm.
You know, that's not really atrue enemy to me.
That's just a difficult person.
Yeah.
I'm talking about how do we lovesomeone who has taken something
from us?
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Something we love...
something that we can never getback..
Mm-hmm...
who robs us of our peace and ourjoy every time it crosses our
mind.
Yeah.
In my mind, that's a real enemy.
And so I got to thinking that,forgiveness is an act of love..
Yeah...
especially for someone who trulyis remorseful.
You know, sometimes people doterrible things..
(17:42):
Mm-hmm...
and all we can think about ishow much we maybe want to hate
them, even though God is callingus to love them.
And so to forgive...
is an act of love.
It doesn't mean that we have tohave a relationship with this
person.
Yeah.
We don't have to feel affectionto love or to forgive that
person.
Forgiveness is really as muchfor us as it is for them.
(18:04):
Yeah.
Maybe even more so...
because it frees us from thatanger, and that bitterness, and
the hate that unforgivenessfosters in our heart and our
mind.
And that's so important becauseif we don't release those
things, if we don't forgive...
that bitterness that we'reholding onto is eventually gonna
spill over into our healthyrelationships.
Yeah.
And so forgiveness is an act oflove for them and for us.
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That's so good.
And to pray for an enemy is anact of love.
You know, it's one thing toforgive, but it's something else
altogether to pray for an enemy,because we typically think of
praying for someone as askingGod to help them in some way or
to bless them.
Yeah.
But what if the prayer is simplyfor God to convict them.
Yeah.
Or to help them to see the painthat they've caused or even to
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save them.
Mm-hmm.
You know, the Bible says thatwhen we do good to an enemy it's
like pouring, burning coals ontheir head.
Yeah.
And so secretly, that's reallywhat we wanna do.
We love that.
Yeah.
But it also says that the Lordwill reward us.
Mm-hmm.
So when we're willing to forgivean enemy, we're willing to pray
for an enemy, it may bless themin some way..
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Yeah...
they may not even receive itthough, and that's okay too..
Yeah...
but the reward is for us.
Keidra Hobley (19:18):
That's so good.
I just turned to the scripturethat came to mind as you were
saying that.
Ephesians 1:17-19 is a versethat I'm constantly encouraging
people to pray in situationslike this.
It says,"I keep asking that theGod of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the glorious father, may giveyou a spirit of wisdom and
revelation so that you may knowhim better.
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Come on, this is a prayer you'repraying over your enemy, so to
speak.
Right?
I pray that the eyes of yourheart may be enlightened in
order that you may know thehope..
Come on...
there's that word hope from thelast episode...
that you may know the hope towhich he has called you, the
riches of his gloriousinheritance in his holy people,
and his incomparably great powerfor us who believe.
(20:02):
Mm-hmm.
That's a beautiful prayer topray over our enemies.
It's, yeah, and it keeps ourheart pure as we pray for them,
because we know it comesstraight from the word.
Susan Dies (20:10):
Right.
To pray salvation..
Mm-hmm...
for an enemy.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, that's a huge sacrificeof love.
That is.
But if you think about it, it'sa benefit too, in the sense that
it brings more light into theworld.
Mm-hmm.
If that enemy never gets saved,then they just continue
spreading that darkness.
Yeah.
So not only did they hurt you...
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but it's gonna hurt otherpeople.
So we're doing ourselves, andthe world, a favor..
Yeah...
when we pray, Lord, would yousave that person?
Would you reveal to them whatthey've done and help them to
come to that place of genuinebrokenness?
Yeah.
And if you think about it intheir brokenness, if they do
come to salvation, they're gonnaspend the rest of their life
thinking about what they didthat hurt you.
(20:54):
They're gonna think about itmore after salvation..
Yes...
than they did before.
Mm-hmm.
And so it's really not releasingthem in the sense that, they
just get off scot free.
Yeah.
They've got to live with thethings that they've done.
And as a Christian, I know formyself personally, when I think
about the things that I've done,it just breaks my heart.
(21:14):
Just think about ways that in myown ignorance..
Mm-hmm...
or in my own selfishness that Ihurt other people.
Yeah.
So forgiveness is for them......
but it's also largely for us...
and God knows what he's doing.
Keidra Hobley (21:28):
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
All right, we're gonna hit thishard one last 1 John 4:8.
It says,"But anyone who does notlove does not know God.
For God is love." If I don'tlove...
then I don't know God.
Like that hits hard, especiallyfor a believer, for someone who
professes Christ, you know?
Susan Dies (21:50):
Right.
The word"know" in this verse isa Greek word that means to have
an intimate and personalrelationship with God.
Mm-hmm.
And so anyone who does notlove...
does not have an intimatepersonal relationship with God.
Mm-hmm.
To know about God...
and to know him personally aretwo different things..
Yeah...
and so that will affect ourability to love.
(22:11):
Our ability to love others withthe kind of love that God has
poured out on us is evidencethat we truly are God's
children...
that we've been saved and thatwe're being transformed..
Mm-hmm...
to be more and more like Jesus.
Love is the true litmus test, soto speak, that we belong to God
and I can't think of any greaterencouragement...
or any greater reason for us toshare his love with others than
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that.
That's so good.
Keidra Hobley (22:36):
I like the end of that verse.
It says, for God is love, andGod is a God of relationship.
And I think it's so easy intoday's society with social
media being so prevalent, wefeel like we know people that we
don't actually know.
That's right.
Because I know a lot aboutyou...
I think I know you...
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and, oh, I just love you.
I just love you.
Right.
And we, we can kind of take thatinto our spiritual life.
Because I know so much aboutGod...
because I've read so much of theword...
I've gone to so many churchservices...
I have done this...
I've done that...
and I know so much about himthat it makes me feel like I
have a relationship with him.
Hmm.
And therefore I love him.
If we don't really know him,we're not really in relationship
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with him, then we can't reallylove him.
And it goes back to what yousaid at the beginning.
His love language is obedience.
And so if we are not in thatkind of relationship where we
love him, to the point of beingobedient to him, we probably do
need to ask ourselves some toughquestions.
That's right.
Yeah.
Did I push the like button andthe follow button on the social
media account of Jesus?
Or am I truly in relationshipwith him?
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Like I know him personally?
Susan Dies (23:46):
I think that's a good place for us to end our
podcast today, just to give ourlisteners something to think
about.
I'm just gonna pray us out.
Is that okay?
That's perfect.
Father, thank you so much forloving us and for proving your
love for us by sending your sonJesus to die for us...
to pay the penalty for our sins.
Thank you for forgiving usLord..
Thank you...
even when we don't deserve it.
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Help us to share your love withothers...
even Lord, to those who are hardto love, even to those we don't
wanna love.
Lord, help us to trust you inthis...
to forgive...
and to love and to pray, evenfor those who have hurt us
deeply, knowing that when welove in these ways, Lord, we're
reflecting your character andyour heart, and you're
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transforming us to be more andmore like your son Jesus.
May others see you in us.
May others come to know youthrough us.
And Lord, may your kingdom comeand your will be done.
And we pray all these things inthe precious, and powerful, and
beautiful name of your sonJesus, who has loved us beyond
measure and beyond reason.
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Amen.
Keidra Hobley (24:49):
Amen.
Welcome to the One Yes At A Time podcast.
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I'm Keidra...
here with my friend Susan...
and we're gonna talk about lovetoday.
Faith.
Hope.
Love.
Notice The pattern?
So here we go.
The topic of love is such abroad topic...
just like faith.
And we can go in multipledirections with this, but one of
the first things I thoughtabout, is that there are
different types of love.
That's right.
Yeah.
Eros..
A physical love is, it's a lovebetween a husband and a wife.
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Right.
You know, that sexual love.
And then phileo?
Is that right?
Susan Dies (00:28):
Phileo.
Keidra Hobley (00:29):
Phileo, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm thinking about a steak.
Okay, but that's the brotherlykind of love.
That's right.
A friendship kind of love.
And then Agape.
Agape is the sacrificial,unconditional love of God.
And that's the one we asbelievers often focus on and
then is there a fourth one?
Susan Dies (00:46):
There is a fourth one...
and I just learned this.
It's storge.
It's familial love, like betweena parent and a child, or
brothers and sisters, orextended family.
And all four of these types oflove are found in the Bible.
But there's also this oneinstance in Romans 12:10, where
phileo love and storge love iscombined...
philostorgus.
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It's a combination of friendshiplove, and familial love.
So this is the kind of love wehave for brothers and sisters in
Christ...
other believers who are likefamily to us...
because they're our spiritualfamily, even though they're not
related to us by blood.
And yet if you think about it asChristians, we are blood related
to other believers...
just not by our own blood, butby the blood of Jesus that was
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shed for us.
Keidra Hobley (01:30):
That's beautiful.
And, and When you think aboutlove, it's actually a verb.
So It has action.
That's right.
You know, it's not a feeling.
It's a decision that results inan action.
And so, as we study things likethe love languages..
Mm-hmm...
those are actions.
What's your love language,Susan?
Susan Dies (01:47):
Mine is Words of affirmation.
Keidra Hobley (01:49):
Okay.
Yeah.
I have a sign posted in mykitchen that I thought was gonna
help my children...
'cause I taught my childrenabout love languages at a very
young age.
And the sign that I have putright above the sink in my
kitchen is, I like hugs...
I like kisses...
but what I really love is helpwith the dishes."
Susan Dies (02:07):
So that's physical touch and acts of service kind
of combined?
No, that's acts of service.
Oh, okay.
Keidra Hobley (02:11):
Solely.
It's like, I like hugs, I likekisses, I like those things...
but what I love is help with thedishes.
That was my way of trying totell them, can somebody help me
with the dishes?
So one of the love languages,acts of service.
Yours is words of affirmationand then there's three others?
Susan Dies (02:26):
Right.
Gary Chapman wrote a book calledThe Five Love Languages, and he
talks about these five differentways that we express and receive
love through acts of service..
Mm-hmm...
physical touch...
words of affirmation...
gifts...
and quality time.
And the way we receive love isour love language.
Yeah.
And I believe God has a lovelanguage and I think it's found
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in 1 John 5:3.
It says,"And this is love forGod: that we obey his commands
and his commands are not aburden." Mm.
The way we express genuine lovefor God is not through our
words, but by our willingness totrust him and to obey him.
And so I think his love languageis obedience.
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What do you think about that?
Keidra Hobley (03:10):
Oh, that just did something to me.
That is the best thing I'veheard all day.
Like, that is beautiful.
God's love language isobedience.
I never even thought about itlike that, but that is
beautiful.
Yes.
Susan Dies (03:20):
And not because he just wants us, to do what I say
to do.
The reason it shouldn't be aburden is every single thing
that God has ever told us todo..
Mm-hmm...
or not to do...
every boundary he's ever set forus was an expression of his
love.
That's beautiful.
He's trying to keep us safe.
He wants the very best for us.
Mm-hmm.
And so when we believe that he'sa good God, that he's a good
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Father, that all of the thingshe says to us in His word is out
of love for us...
and we choose to trust him..
Yeah...
and we choose to show that trustthrough our obedience to him..
Yeah...
that is a genuine expression ofour love to him that he
receives.
I believe.
Keidra Hobley (03:59):
That, oh my goodness.
When you were saying that theLord just showed me Peter.
When Jesus was restoring Peterback to himself essentially...
when he said,"Peter, do you loveme?" And what did he say?
Then feed my sheep.
Right?
That's the obedience part.
If you love me, then you'regonna obey me.
You're gonna do what I've askedyou to do.
You're gonna do what I askedyou..
And you're gonna trust me.
Yeah.
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That's so good.
I never thought about it likethat.
Susan Dies (04:22):
I think about the fact that Peter was one of
Jesus's three best friends.
Yeah.
He said, I would even die foryou.
Yeah.
You know, he was just declaringhis loyalty to Jesus.
Mm-hmm.
And Jesus said, you're gonnadeny me three times..
Yeah...
before the rooster crows.
Mm-hmm.
And Peter was saying,"No, Lord,that will never happen." And of
course..
It did...
everything Jesus says comes topass.
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Yes, it's exactly what happened.
He denied him three times.
But what's so beautiful is thatwhen he restored Peter, he asked
him three times, do you love me?
Yeah.
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Yes, Lord, I love you.
Exactly.
You know that I love you.
He gave him three chances tooffset the betrayal of those
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three times when he said, Idon't even know him.
And you can hear it in Peter'svoice.
He wants Jesus to believe him.
And of course we know that Jesusdid believe him, but I just love
that he gave him those threeopportunities when he was being
restored.
Keidra Hobley (05:19):
That's so beautiful.
That's so good.
So I've jotted down a couple ofverses from the word..
Mm-hmm...
that speaks to love.
Okay.
And so I just want us to justkind of chat about them.
Is that okay?
Okay.
That sounds great.
Of course, the first one thatcomes to all of our minds..
Mm-hmm...
if we know Jesus is John 3:16.
That's right.
"For God so love the world thathe gave his one and only son,
that whoever believes in himwill not perish, but have
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everlasting life." Yes.
I guess I probably should justgo ahead and share Romans 5:8
too, because it's similar.
"But God showed his great lovefor us by sending Christ to die
for us while we were stillsinners." Love is willing to die
to self.
Hmm.
Jesus literally gave his life.
He did.
And so the expectation...
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if Jesus gave his life, then hisexpectation is that we'll be
willing to give ours.
Death to self is a form of dyingto express a level of love.
Susan Dies (06:12):
Right.
Yeah.
And it's difficult.
Keidra Hobley (06:14):
It's very difficult...
to die yourself.
It's very difficult.
What does that even mean...
to die to self?
To be willing to give up what Iwant for what someone else
wants.
That's right.
To be willing to give up my wayfor God's way.
To be willing to say no toKeidra so that somebody else can
get a yes.
Mm-hmm.
So it's the everyday decisionsthat we make when we put others
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before ourselves.
That's dying to self.
Susan Dies (06:38):
Right?
Mm-hmm.
When I think about John 3:16, Ithink of that as the ultimate
sacrificial love.
I mean, for God to show us thiskind of love, literally cost him
everything.
Everything.
Because Jesus was and is God inthe flesh.
And so God gave his one and onlyson.
I don't know anyone else whowould be willing to do that.
(07:00):
And then you mentioned Romans5:8.
You said, God demonstrates hisown love for us in this, that
while we were still sinners."Yeah.
This is everyone...
we're all sinners.
And so God doesn't just lovethose that the world considers
to be good.
God loves everyone...
and I'm so grateful for thatbecause I'm one of those
sinners..
(07:20):
Mm-hmm...
that Christ died for.
Mm-hmm.
Keidra Hobley (07:22):
And, you pointing out while we were sinners.
Like even dying to self...
how we demonstrate love to otherpeople while they're still doing
that thing we don't like thatthey do.
Hmm.
While they're still, pushing ourbuttons...
while they're still getting onour nerves.
Can we just be real about it?
Oh, yeah.
While they're still doingthat...
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we still choose to love.
Right.
And that's where dying to selfcomes into play.
So I like that you pointed outwhile we were sinners, that
Jesus still chose to die for us.
Susan Dies (07:54):
Right.
And we can love someone and notlike what they're doing.
Oh, that's so good.
I think that's important.
That's so true.
A good distinction.
Keidra Hobley (08:00):
Okay, let's look at another verse.
This is fun.
How about Matthew 22:37-40?
This passage says,"Jesusreplied, you must love the Lord
your God, with all your heart,all your soul, and all your
mind, this is the first andgreatest commandment.
A second is equally asimportant.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
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The entire law and all thedemands of the prophets are
based on these twocommandments." All right.
What do you take from thatverse?
Susan Dies (08:30):
All consuming love for God that involves our whole
heart, mind, body and soul...
that then spills over ontoeveryone else..
That's good...
when we're loving God in thatway.
And the Bible tells us that Godis love...
so if his love for us is allconsuming, it only makes sense
that the greatest command is forus to have the same all
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consuming love for God and forothers.
The first commandment is lovethe Lord your God...
but the second is like it.
Mm-hmm.
Love others as yourself.
Yeah.
The way you care for yourself.
Yeah.
And a lot of times that's byputting self first.
Mm-hmm.
And what he's saying is don'tput self first.
Put others.
Put others first.
Yeah.
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Because that's what God has donefor us.
Keidra Hobley (09:13):
That's so good.
I also look at it from theperspective if I don't love
myself, then I can't loveothers.
Right.
I like the fact that youmentioned it is loving the Lord
first in all these ways...
with all your heart, all yourmind, all your soul.
That's what's gonna help me loveothers.
So it's connected.
It's, isn't it?
Susan Dies (09:33):
It's connected.
It is.
And it is important to have thatkind of healthy love..
Mm-hmm...
for self, that comes from thelove that God has poured into
our hearts..
Yeah...
through his spirit.
And then we're able to pour thatsame healthy love out onto
others.
Keidra Hobley (09:47):
Yeah.
So good.
So good.
What about, John 13:34-35?
"So now I am giving you a newcommandment: love each other
just as I have loved you.
You should love each other.
The love for one another willprove to the world that you are
my disciples." If people cannottell that something is
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different...
in the way we love...
then we are not being goodexamples of Christ in the earth.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
'cause it says your love for oneanother will prove to the world.
We can talk about Jesus all day.
We can share the gospel all day.
We can read scripture all day.
We can pray all day.
But if we aren't loving people..
Mm-hmm...
then we're not gonna be able toprove to the world that we're
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actually his.
Susan Dies (10:31):
That's right.
When I think about John13:34-35, which you just read, I
think about compassionate love.
Okay.
And I say that becausecompassionate love centers on
the good of others.
To love one another is not a newcommandment..
Mm-hmm...
even though it says, a newcommandment I give you.
It's a clarification of God'soriginal command to love each
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other.
Mm.
And Jesus emphasizes love othersas I have loved you.
When Jesus told his disciples tolove one another in this way, he
had just finished washing thedisciples nasty feet.
Okay.
That's a job that's normallyreserved for servants.
The point being that our lovefor one another should come from
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a heart of humility..
Mm-hmm...
instead of what's in it for me.
Mm-hmm.
And so to love one another...
is to serve one another..
Yeah...
in love.
Mm-hmm.
And when you do this, whenyou're putting other people
first..
Yeah...
when you're willing to humbleyourself for the sake of other
people...
that's how people outside thechurch can look at God's church
(11:32):
and say...
there's something differentabout them.
Keidra Hobley (11:35):
Yeah.
That's so good.
That's so good.
I'm going to the verses thattalks about, if your brother
tries to steal your shirt, givehim your coat.
Mm-hmm.
If he slaps you to turn theother cheek...
you know, those types of things.
You have to have the love ofChrist in order to be able to do
those types of things.
Susan Dies (11:50):
That's right.
But because it's so differentand it's not what people
expect..
Right...
it stands out.
Yes.
And when it said if someoneforces you to go one mile, go
two.
Yeah.
People were being forced to gotwo miles and you would think
they would be upset about that.
Mm-hmm.
But someone who's filled withthe love of Christ..
Yeah...
takes that as an opportunity tohumble themselves and to
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actually serve them.
So really it takes the sting outof being forced to do it..
Come on...
'cause you really didn't forceme to do it.
Right.
I chose to do it.
Yeah.
And so that gives you adifferent mindset.
Yeah.
If that makes sense.
Keidra Hobley (12:23):
It does.
It goes back to the verse inColossians that says everything
that we do...
do it as unto the Lord..
Mm-hmm...
and not as unto men.
That's right.
And when we take that position,then it doesn't matter what
people throw at us, it is'causewe're, we're offering it back as
a sacrifice to the Lord.
Susan Dies (12:36):
That's right.
I used to think to myself, thereare a lot of things that I would
not do for other people.
Mm-hmm.
Some things I wouldn't evendo...
for myself, but because of whatChrist has done for me..
Yeah...
if He ask me to do it, I'm gonnado it.
And sometimes when it's hard, Ijust envision Christ up on that
cross..
Mm...
dying for me...
and saying, Susan, will you doit for me?
(12:58):
Oh.
And I can do it for him.
Yeah.
But I have to get that mindsetgoing..
Yeah...
'cause sometimes it's reallyhard..
Yeah...
to die to self.
That's so good.
That's a beautiful illustration.
Oh, I love that.
Keidra Hobley (13:09):
No pun intended.
All right.
One Corinthians 13, as we know,is the love chapter.
1 Corinthians 13 tells us someof the characteristics of a God
kind of love.
It says,"Love is patient.
Love is kind.
It does not envy.
It does not boast.
It is not proud.
It does not dishonor others.
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It is not self-seeking.
It is not easily angered.
It keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil,but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, alwaystrust, always hopes.
Love, perseveres and love neverfails.
Mm-hmm.
Like, come on.
That almost seems unattainable.
(13:51):
Right?
Susan Dies (13:51):
It is.
Because this is describing God'sperfect love.
Mm-hmm.
And the thing that stands out tome in this passage is that Paul
lists just as many things thatlove is..
Mm-hmm...
as he does...
that love is not.
Yeah.
And I think that's importantbecause love isn't always what
we do.
Sometimes love is seen just asclearly by the things we choose
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not to do.
Keidra Hobley (14:15):
Oh, that's good.
Susan Dies (14:16):
So yes, we feel loved when someone is patient
and kind, but we also feel lovedwhen someone chooses not to be
irritable, or arrogant, or rude.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The other thing that caught myattention is verse 13, where it
says,"these three remain...
meaning these three areeternal...
faith, hope and love..
Mm-hmm...
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but the greatest of these islove.
And so I was thinking, why islove greater than faith?
Why is love greater than hope...
if all three things are eternal?
Mm-hmm.
And the answer is reallytwofold.
Number one, the Bible says thatGod is love.
Yeah.
And there is nothing greater.
And the second thing is inheaven, our faith is gonna be
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made sight.
Right?
Yeah.
And all of our hopes are gonnabe fulfilled.
And so faith and hope will nolonger be needed once we're in
the presence of God..
That's so good...
who is love.
Yeah.
And so one day when we standbefore God, all that's gonna
matter are these threequestions?
Did we have faith in God?
Did we place our hope in God?
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Yeah.
And did we accept the love ofGod that he offers to us in
Jesus?
That's so good.
Faith, hope, and love.
Keidra Hobley (15:25):
That's beautiful.
Like I never really thoughtabout that...
the fact that faith and hopewill no longer be needed in
glory.
I don't need to have faith inGod at that point because I'm
standing before him.
That's right.
I don't have to have hope foreternity because I'm living in
it.
Susan Dies (15:40):
Yeah, and he's already made all things right
and new.
Yeah.
So everything that made us feelhopeless this side of heaven is
no longer an issue.
Come on.
Amen.
Keidra Hobley (15:50):
Amen.
How about a couple more?
Wanna do a couple more?
Okay.
Let's look at Matthew 5:44.
This verse says, Love yourenemies." Okay, now it's getting
real.
Okay?
"Pray for those who persecuteyou." That's an instruction from
the Lord.
It's not a suggestion, it's aninstruction.
Love your enemies, pray forthose who persecute you.
(16:10):
So Godly love is not dependenton whether or not the recipient
is worthy of it.
Susan Dies (16:16):
Mm-hmm.
That's what I call thisimpossible love.
Oh, I love it.
But verse 45 tells us why he'sgiven us this command.
Okay.
It's so that you may be sons ofthe father.
Mm.
We are never more like God thanwhen we are loving our enemies..
Yeah...
when we're praying for those whopersecute us, and I'm not sure,
but I think this is probably thehardest command in all of
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scripture.
Yeah.
Even harder than God's commandto forgive the people that hurt
us.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it's one thing to beable to forgive someone, but to
love an enemy, you know, that'sa whole other thing altogether.
Yeah.
And to pray for an enemy, itjust goes against everything in
our human nature.
And so I got to thinking, whatdoes loving an enemy look like?
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Yeah.
You know?
And I'm not talking about theperson who hurts our feelings
or, speaks badly about us, oreven that person in our life
who's so miserable that theywanna make everyone around them
miserable.
Mm-hmm.
You know, that's not really atrue enemy to me.
That's just a difficult person.
Yeah.
I'm talking about how do we lovesomeone who has taken something
from us?
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Something we love...
something that we can never getback..
Mm-hmm...
who robs us of our peace and ourjoy every time it crosses our
mind.
Yeah.
In my mind, that's a real enemy.
And so I got to thinking that,forgiveness is an act of love..
Yeah...
especially for someone who trulyis remorseful.
You know, sometimes people doterrible things..
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Mm-hmm...
and all we can think about ishow much we maybe want to hate
them, even though God is callingus to love them.
And so to forgive...
is an act of love.
It doesn't mean that we have tohave a relationship with this
person.
Yeah.
We don't have to feel affectionto love or to forgive that
person.
Forgiveness is really as muchfor us as it is for them.
(18:04):
Yeah.
Maybe even more so...
because it frees us from thatanger, and that bitterness, and
the hate that unforgivenessfosters in our heart and our
mind.
And that's so important becauseif we don't release those
things, if we don't forgive...
that bitterness that we'reholding onto is eventually gonna
spill over into our healthyrelationships.
Yeah.
And so forgiveness is an act oflove for them and for us.
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That's so good.
And to pray for an enemy is anact of love.
You know, it's one thing toforgive, but it's something else
altogether to pray for an enemy,because we typically think of
praying for someone as askingGod to help them in some way or
to bless them.
Yeah.
But what if the prayer is simplyfor God to convict them.
Yeah.
Or to help them to see the painthat they've caused or even to
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save them.
Mm-hmm.
You know, the Bible says thatwhen we do good to an enemy it's
like pouring, burning coals ontheir head.
Yeah.
And so secretly, that's reallywhat we wanna do.
We love that.
Yeah.
But it also says that the Lordwill reward us.
Mm-hmm.
So when we're willing to forgivean enemy, we're willing to pray
for an enemy, it may bless themin some way..
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Yeah...
they may not even receive itthough, and that's okay too..
Yeah...
but the reward is for us.
Keidra Hobley (19:18):
That's so good.
I just turned to the scripturethat came to mind as you were
saying that.
Ephesians 1:17-19 is a versethat I'm constantly encouraging
people to pray in situationslike this.
It says,"I keep asking that theGod of our Lord Jesus Christ,
the glorious father, may giveyou a spirit of wisdom and
revelation so that you may knowhim better.
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Come on, this is a prayer you'repraying over your enemy, so to
speak.
Right?
I pray that the eyes of yourheart may be enlightened in
order that you may know thehope..
Come on...
there's that word hope from thelast episode...
that you may know the hope towhich he has called you, the
riches of his gloriousinheritance in his holy people,
and his incomparably great powerfor us who believe.
(20:02):
Mm-hmm.
That's a beautiful prayer topray over our enemies.
It's, yeah, and it keeps ourheart pure as we pray for them,
because we know it comesstraight from the word.
Susan Dies (20:10):
Right.
To pray salvation..
Mm-hmm...
for an enemy.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, that's a huge sacrificeof love.
That is.
But if you think about it, it'sa benefit too, in the sense that
it brings more light into theworld.
Mm-hmm.
If that enemy never gets saved,then they just continue
spreading that darkness.
Yeah.
So not only did they hurt you...
(20:32):
but it's gonna hurt otherpeople.
So we're doing ourselves, andthe world, a favor..
Yeah...
when we pray, Lord, would yousave that person?
Would you reveal to them whatthey've done and help them to
come to that place of genuinebrokenness?
Yeah.
And if you think about it intheir brokenness, if they do
come to salvation, they're gonnaspend the rest of their life
thinking about what they didthat hurt you.
(20:54):
They're gonna think about itmore after salvation..
Yes...
than they did before.
Mm-hmm.
And so it's really not releasingthem in the sense that, they
just get off scot free.
Yeah.
They've got to live with thethings that they've done.
And as a Christian, I know formyself personally, when I think
about the things that I've done,it just breaks my heart.
(21:14):
Just think about ways that in myown ignorance..
Mm-hmm...
or in my own selfishness that Ihurt other people.
Yeah.
So forgiveness is for them......
but it's also largely for us...
and God knows what he's doing.
Keidra Hobley (21:28):
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
All right, we're gonna hit thishard one last 1 John 4:8.
It says,"But anyone who does notlove does not know God.
For God is love." If I don'tlove...
then I don't know God.
Like that hits hard, especiallyfor a believer, for someone who
professes Christ, you know?
Susan Dies (21:50):
Right.
The word"know" in this verse isa Greek word that means to have
an intimate and personalrelationship with God.
Mm-hmm.
And so anyone who does notlove...
does not have an intimatepersonal relationship with God.
Mm-hmm.
To know about God...
and to know him personally aretwo different things..
Yeah...
and so that will affect ourability to love.
(22:11):
Our ability to love others withthe kind of love that God has
poured out on us is evidencethat we truly are God's
children...
that we've been saved and thatwe're being transformed..
Mm-hmm...
to be more and more like Jesus.
Love is the true litmus test, soto speak, that we belong to God
and I can't think of any greaterencouragement...
or any greater reason for us toshare his love with others than
(22:34):
that.
That's so good.
Keidra Hobley (22:36):
I like the end of that verse.
It says, for God is love, andGod is a God of relationship.
And I think it's so easy intoday's society with social
media being so prevalent, wefeel like we know people that we
don't actually know.
That's right.
Because I know a lot aboutyou...
I think I know you...
(22:57):
and, oh, I just love you.
I just love you.
Right.
And we, we can kind of take thatinto our spiritual life.
Because I know so much aboutGod...
because I've read so much of theword...
I've gone to so many churchservices...
I have done this...
I've done that...
and I know so much about himthat it makes me feel like I
have a relationship with him.
Hmm.
And therefore I love him.
If we don't really know him,we're not really in relationship
(23:22):
with him, then we can't reallylove him.
And it goes back to what yousaid at the beginning.
His love language is obedience.
And so if we are not in thatkind of relationship where we
love him, to the point of beingobedient to him, we probably do
need to ask ourselves some toughquestions.
That's right.
Yeah.
Did I push the like button andthe follow button on the social
media account of Jesus?
Or am I truly in relationshipwith him?
(23:44):
Like I know him personally?
Susan Dies (23:46):
I think that's a good place for us to end our
podcast today, just to give ourlisteners something to think
about.
I'm just gonna pray us out.
Is that okay?
That's perfect.
Father, thank you so much forloving us and for proving your
love for us by sending your sonJesus to die for us...
to pay the penalty for our sins.
Thank you for forgiving usLord..
Thank you...
even when we don't deserve it.
(24:07):
Help us to share your love withothers...
even Lord, to those who are hardto love, even to those we don't
wanna love.
Lord, help us to trust you inthis...
to forgive...
and to love and to pray, evenfor those who have hurt us
deeply, knowing that when welove in these ways, Lord, we're
reflecting your character andyour heart, and you're
(24:27):
transforming us to be more andmore like your son Jesus.
May others see you in us.
May others come to know youthrough us.
And Lord, may your kingdom comeand your will be done.
And we pray all these things inthe precious, and powerful, and
beautiful name of your sonJesus, who has loved us beyond
measure and beyond reason.
(24:49):
Amen.
Keidra Hobley (24:49):
Amen.
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