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When you are given a secondchance to live, you reevaluate
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every facet of your life.
I knew that God had more in store for me.
I didn't know that that morewould be me finding a lump in my.
Rest.
'cause I couldn't fight for amarriage and fight for my life.
I chose me.
I chose me.
I chose.
Welcome to our Power Lounge,where we invite you to come as
you are and leave more powerful.
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I'm your host, Tatianna Mott.
And this is what power sounds like.
This is our.
Today we're joined by a powerhouse inevery sense of the word, award-winning
journalist, media personality,and breast cancer advocate.
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Whose story of survivalhas sparked a movement?
Lyndsay Joy, Levingston, founderof SurviveHER, her and nonprofit
organization on a mission toeducate, uplift, and empower women
and men, particularly women of.
Color through theirbreast cancer journeys.
After being diagnosed with breastcancer herself, Lyndsay turned her
pain into power using her platform toamplify awareness and to help others.
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She's smart, radiant, full of heart, andI'm so honored to have her here today
to share her journey, her joy, and thecommunity she's built along the way.
Hi Lyndsay.
Hi Tatianna.
You're gonna make me start crying.
That was such a beautiful introduction.
Thank you.
I'm so honored and humblefor this opportunity to, um,
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chat with you in the lounge.
Aw, well thank you for joining us.
You know, I feel like the introhas to be as beautiful as you are
'cause you are beautiful in and out.
And, um, one thing thatyou already noticed.
But people watching at home mightnot have noticed, but I had to wear
my breast cancer awareness pink.
And it's not just any breastcancer awareness pink.
It is a dress that you gifted me andit looks you wear better than I did.
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Oh, I doubt that.
But thank you on you.
It's perfect.
Thank you.
Um, so before we get into your story,because I know you've got a lot to
share, I wanna do a little bit ofa, kinda an icebreaker or a warmup,
uh, to slowly introduce peopleto the wonderfulness that youth.
So we're gonna do aquick word association.
So let me know the first wordor phrase that comes to mind
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when you're here, the following.
So the first one is power.
Fearlessness.
Mm. Okay.
Love
mom.
Oh, I love that community.
Survive her.
Mm, I love that.
And last one, faith.
Ooh, Jehovah Gyra.
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Amen.
He's my provider.
Amen.
He's my healer.
I love it.
And so I said community, andyou mentioned Survive Her.
So of course we are.
Here it is.
October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
Um, so tell us a little bitabout who you were before.
Survive her before the diagnosis.
Cool.
Is or who was young?
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Lyndsay Joy.
Ooh, young Lyndsay.
So, uh, pre SurviveHER Lyndsay,uh, was a working, uh, TV news
journalist, uh, in New York City.
Really climbing the ladder, poundingthe pavement in the number one
media market, hustling and bustling.
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And I was active.
Um, and socialite.
I really enjoyed thework that I was doing.
Uh, but I will be honest, I knewthat God had more in store for me.
I didn't know that that more wouldbe me finding a lump in my breast.
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Mm. Wow.
And when that revelation, when that thatlump was discovered, where were you?
Like, what was your mindset?
What were you doing?
What was life looking like at that time?
So it was ju the summer of July, 2019.
And, um, I was at this pointfreelancing and just trying to
figure out what was next, um, whereI was gonna work, what I was going
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to do, and what really made sense.
That was purposeful.
And I was in the shower.
Doing a self-breast exam, which Ihighly recommend every woman do.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, make it a habit.
And I found the lump in my right breast.
And at first I'm thinking, oh, maybeit's like a cyst, or maybe my bras
are too tight, or the underwirespoking into my breast tissue.
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Breast cancer was certainly not onmy radar because I was unaware that
I had a family history at that time.
Um, but I remember being in theshower, filling that lump and, um.
Taking immediate action, advocating formyself to get a mammogram 'cause I was 37.
And, um, thank God I had a woman ofcolor, a gynecologist who also advocated
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for me and pushed for, uh, my, mymammogram to order the mammogram.
So, subsequently mammogram 3D ultrasound.
Uh, excuse me.
3D, mammogram, breast ultrasound, biopsy.
Confirmed it was cancerous.
Wow.
And my life changed, well, I will sayfor the better after that, really.
And so for the better.
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I know it wasn't for the better Right.
In that moment.
So what was the, the shift foryou, because this was 2019.
And we all know that a year afterthat, or not even a year after
that, a lot of other things changed.
Um, you mentioned that you were gratefulthat you had the gynecologist that
you had who was a support system inthat like she advocated for you and,
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and, you know, helped you get to thepoint where you can get diagnosed
and, and, and start treatment.
Um, but what other support didyou have during that time because.
The world got quarantined shortlyafter, so I'm sure it was not that
easy to have support through this.
And you mentioned something that wasso true at, in that moment, Tati.
I was, um, in fear, I was shocked.
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Um, like when I receivedthat news, Lindsey, I'm sorry
Lindsey, you have breast cancer.
I was just really surprised 'causeoh gosh, how did this happen to me?
I'm active, I'm fit, I'm healthy, and.
Um, it just caused this mentalshift, spiritual shift, emotional
shift in, in, in my life thatultimately resulted in me starting
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an, an organization and community.
Um, I would say making some choicesabout relationships that I was in,
um, and really like cleaning house.
IE cleaning house representing my life.
Mm-hmm.
And it allowed me to make a purposefulpivot into work that God called me to do.
He had that plan already destinedfor me, as Jeremiah 29 11 says,
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he has a great plan for all ofus to give us hope in the future.
I just didn't know at the age of 37it would be breast cancer that I could
then pivot into a purposeful, uh.
Purposeful work as an, as anadvocate, an awareness advocate.
I love that.
I love that.
And so in starting Survive her,what was the impetus for that?
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Was it that you werelooking for community?
Was it that you wanted to help others?
Both.
I wanted to help others share all ofthe information that I learned because,
um, undergoing chemotherapy, 15 roundsof bilateral breast mastectomy, breast
reconstruction, genetic test confirmedI carry the BRCA one gene mutation.
I then had a procedure to removeovaries and fallopian tubes to
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reduce my risk of ovarian cancer.
And I was like, Ooh, this is, I hada, a, you could say that's a lot.
Stacks and stacks of, ofinformation, paperwork.
So much so that I knew I didn'twant to move forward in my journey
in SurviveHERship, withholdingthe information and not sharing.
I thought that would've been selfish ofme, so I just started sharing my story.
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And then I start learning that a lotof women, young women, especially
young women of color, didn't know aboutbreast health and what to do and how
to do self checks and, and genetictesting and mammography and screenings
since I just shared everything I knewthat was part one and part two was,
oh, I didn't really identify with any.
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Groups or support groups ororganizations at that time,
and so I created my own lane.
Nice.
And just surrounded myself withother SurviveHERs and friends
and family and SurviveHER.
Just took off and grew, and grew andhas evolved into what I would say is
a movement, a pink movement of love.
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Port of information and empowerment.
I love that.
I love that.
You mentioned you were 37.
So I'm 37 now.
Um, and I actually have threefriends of mine that I grew up
with that are around the same ageas me, that were also recently
diagnosed within the last few months.
Um, with breast cancer.
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And so I know they say to wait tillyou're 40 to get your mammograms,
but as we're seeing, you know, someof this stuff is happening sooner.
Um, and then you also mentioned thatthere were things that you realized people
didn't know until you started sharing.
Uh, what are some of those things thatyou came across, especially when it
comes to finding out about your own?
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Hereditary, you know, thatthat it was passed, could have
potentially been passed down.
What are some things that you foundout that you never would've known?
So what I recommend to women of all ages,especially women under 40, is to talk to
both mom and dad about family history.
Aunts, sisters, cousins.
Um, when I was first diagnosed, mybreast surgeon asked me if I had a
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family history that was known, and Iknew about the cancer diagnoses on my
mother's side of the family, none ofwhich were breast and my immediate family.
But I didn't know that on my dad'sside of the family, breast cancer
was very common and I would be the14th female to have been diagnosed.
Wow.
To know your family history, Ididn't know about genetic testing.
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So genetic tests are available.
Contact your PCP, your nursepractitioner, even your gynecologist
and advocate for the test.
Some may be covered by insurance,partially, some are out of pocket
expense, but it's an investment that Ithink can ultimately save one's life.
When you know your.
Hereditary risk and predispositions.
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You can take preventative measures.
This is just information I didn't know.
Wow.
Um, if you're under the age of 40,Tati, just like you, and you are
experiencing abnormalities in yourbreast tissue, you can advocate for
mammogram or a breast, uh, physicalor physical exam, a breast screening.
There are various technologies beyondyour traditional mammogram that
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young women can take advantage of.
One is.
Called a BEA breast exam.
We partner with the BEA Equity Allianceto screen women under the age of 40, and
it's a computer mouse like device that.
Goes over the breast using reallyinteresting, cool technology
and it detects masses andit's great for dense breasts.
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A lot of women, young women ofcolor have dense or fatty breast
tissue, so it's technologies likethe VEX exam that can help us get
on the forefront of early detection.
But again, this is informationI'm, I'm learning as I am, trugging
it along on this, survive her.
Survive her ship journey, I should say.
And I just share.
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I learn, I share, I learn.
I share because I knowit's, I am touching.
If I just reach and touch one woman,I know that my work for that day
or that hour, that minute is done.
Yeah, I, I love it because I justlearned a lot just from that.
Um, I feel like there's also this historyof like being hush hush about a lot of
things, especially in our communities.
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And I remember when my friends werediagnosed, I had mentioned to my
mom, I was like, speaking of mom, um.
Love.
Um, but I mentioned to my mom, I waslike, why do I feel like it's suddenly
becoming so much more prevalent?
And she was just like, no, people areactually just talking about it now.
And she was like, she, that's it.
Knew people that she didn't knowthey had cancer until years later
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after they were already in remission.
Um, and I know your story was a littlebit similar and that in the beginning,
and a lot of people want to kind of holdthat near and dear with is their loved
ones before they go public with it.
Um, what was.
Before survive her.
Um, you said you started going public.
What was kind of the, the moment thatchanged for you, where you started
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really feeling safe to speak about it?
When I completed every facet oftreatment and I was confident enough to
articulate it and share because it's alot of medical jargon and terminology,
and I wanted to make sure that I was.
Articulating the appropriateinformation, sharing the right
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information, well researched, um,to then share, um, in totality my
breast cancer treatment journey.
So, and because I was in the publiceye as a reporter and anchor,
I chose not to go through this.
Publicly, rather privately,until I knew that I could
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confidently share and have a plan.
It's, it's, when I started sharing, I alsohad the SurviveHER plan, um, strategically
already mapped out so that it wouldbe a purposeful, a movement of sharing
and storytelling and impacting lives.
You also mentioned earlier that therewas a bit of cleaning house when you
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were going through this experience.
And I feel like in general, alot of people were cleaning house
during that time because we were inthis quarantine and you know, life
was changing for a lot of people.
And I don't think that phasehas really quite ended.
We're still in the space oflike having to reevaluate our
circles, having to reevaluatethe things that we put stock in.
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Um, what are some of theother ways that you felt.
This diagnosis really helped youclear out some of the, the things
that were keeping you from your power.
When you are given a secondchance to live, you reevaluate
every facet of your life.
So at the time I was married and whatI realized and what was revealed to me.
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Through my treatment as I was goingthrough treatment is that, um, I didn't
have the support that I deserved.
Um, during that period, in that phase andthe wedding vows say you are supportive
and sickness and in help, right?
And that is an opportunity foryou to support your spouse.
And I didn't have that support.
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And so I decided to end my relationship,um, because I couldn't fight for
a marriage and fight for my life.
I chose me.
For the first time in a long time.
Wow.
And it took me a while.
It took a, a really dear friend ofmine to help me to realize and see
and like clear the blockers and the.
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Smokey mirror to see really that I deservethe best, um, support and love during
this, this very fragile phase of my life.
So that was one.
Um, when you're going throughbreast cancer, you also will, will
see in real time your friends whoshow up for you and those who stay
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quiet or don't show up at all.
So it was easy to transition outof some friendships, if you will.
Um.
For the better and then themost, um, purposeful, I think.
Moment of clarity for mebeyond those relationships
was the work that I was doing.
Um, the working in media, as youknow, Tatianna, even, you know,
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with your producer background,that it can be extremely stressful.
Yep.
And I knew that in SurviveHERship, I hadto keep my levels of stress very low.
So I knew that I wasn't returningto that stressful life, but rather
making a purposeful pivot and doingthe work that God ultimately called
me to do through survive her.
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So a lot of reevaluation, and like I saidat the beginning, um, I, I discovered the.
Lumping my breast for the better.
Yeah.
And they say too that, you know, peoplewho have that support system, who
have, you know, community around themwhen they're going through troubling
times, especially when it comes tohealth, um, tend to fare better.
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And so I'm grateful.
Shout out to your friendfor being a real one.
Um, and I can only imagine goingthrough, you know, this life-changing
diagnosis, this, uh, global pandemic.
And now a divorce, like I'm surethere's levels of fear of having to
keep stepping into the unknown, and yourfriends helped you get through that.
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Your faith helped you get through that.
What are some tips that youhave for anyone else that may be
going through it and they're justafraid to take that next step?
So the first thing that I would sayto any woman who's going through
it recently diagnosed is to pray.
Um, lean on God and just, um,automatically and immediately
declare yourself healed.
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And restored that positive mindsetreally does make a difference.
In fact, I'll never forget that my breastsurgeon told me that 90% of this journey,
I don't like to say battle, but 90%of it is mindset, a positive mindset.
The 10% is just taking your medicine,following the doctor's orders, and so I
maintain a positive mindset throughout.
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Protecting your peace is important.
Surrounding yourself with, with positivepeople, friends, and loved ones who really
have your best interest at heart, andknowing that it's own, it's temporary.
I thought, oh my gosh, I'mgonna be in chemo forever.
And next thing you know, I wasringing the bell and next thing
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you know, my hair was growing back.
And baby it is thick under thiswig, it, your hair won't grow back.
Okay, it's gonna grow back.
I had cute turmo curls andthen like overnight it reverted
to like a four E texture.
What was going on?
I don't know.
So I wear protective style of mynatural hair is too hard to manage.
So I share that to say to the womenwho are going through it, just know
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that there is a pink light at the end.
It's only temporary.
It's a speed bump, if you will.
But, um, you'll get on the otherside and you're gonna thrive.
And when you thrive, just remember togive God all the glory and, and anything
that you do, whether it's starting in yourown organization or helping other women,
educating other women, just know that.
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Uh, your life has purposeand will and you'll thrive.
I love that.
Ugh, you're awesome.
You're awesome.
I needed to hear those words andI know even like, you know, 'cause
I'm, I'm a pretty positive person aswell, but sometimes you have those
days, you have those moments wherejust every little thing just adds up.
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You know, where all of a sudden.
The, the dog is waking me up too early,or, which, by the way, I have a dog
specifically because, uh, I was goingthrough some, some of those days during
the pandemic, and I know that just gettingoutside and getting a little bit of
sunshine, like having, having someone elseto look after was something that I needed.
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And so getting a dog was like, allright, I gotta go for four walks
a day, regardless of how I feel.
I gotta put clothes on.
So what are some things that on adaily basis, when you have those
little low moments, like helped you?
Okay, so, um, as when I was goingthrough chemo, there were some days
of extreme fatigue and I just didn'twanna go to the bed, but I forced
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myself out of the bed to move my body.
And on the days when, maybe aday or two after treatment, I
would go to Zumba, kickboxing.
Um, and anything I could do tokeep my, my heart pumping, keep my.
Self healthy and my body strongto power through what was a
very aggressive treatment plan.
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So move your body, playmusic, have dance parties.
Um, if you are going through chemotherapyand you're gonna lose your hair or
you lost your hair, slap a wig onlashes and just like rock through it,
power through it, and just have fun.
Like just if you maintain this sense of.
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Optimism and hope yourprognosis will compliment your
mindset and your, um, outlook.
I truly felt that, um, I would,you know, the nurses were like, why
does she have a wig and lipstick?
And I felt great going tochemo, I wanted to look my best.
Some days I just wore aturban over my ball head.
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You know, you just have todo what works best for you.
But stay encouraged and stay positive.
I love and keep your body moving.
I love that.
And speaking of keeping your bodymoving, that actually brings us
into the next segment, which Ilike to call the power playlist.
So one thing that we'll bedoing throughout this series
is we'll be creating a playlistthat all of our guests.
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Um, find empowerment through, so thatcan be songs, podcasts, audio books,
anything that either got you throughthat moment or getting you through
these moments today, what are your,like top three that you can think of?
Ooh, okay.
I love gospel music and,um, I'm, uh, never lost.
Was on my list.
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I have a chemo playlist.
Never lost, actually.
It was surgery and then, um, anythingby Beyonce at, I think right a
year or two after I finished.
Treatment.
Maybe we're a year oneor two SurviveHER break.
My soul came out and I thought thatwas so appropriate because I didn't
allow breast cancer to break my soul.
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So the gospel, anything by Beyonce,really like curated my playlist.
I love it.
I'm a SurviveHER.
Of course, of course.
Like that's our answer.
Of course.
That has to be on the playlist.
Oh, and a little, uh, Chaka Khan.
I'm every woman.
Oh, wait, you know, was that Whitney?
Whitney?
No.
Chaka Khan.
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Chacon.
No, you're right.
Yeah.
Chacon.
Mm-hmm.
I love it.
I love it.
Um, and so I'm going to do a littlebit of a trivia section as well to,
to kind of test how much you know,but don't worry, I'm not going, you
know, it's kinda like a open book test.
So the first question is true or false.
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Black, Asian and Latino women aremore likely to be diagnosed younger
and with more aggressive tumors.
That is extremely trueand I was one of them.
And so what's, what is something about it?
Like what leads to that?
Do you know what leads to that stat?
There are several factors.
Um, I can speak specific to AfricanAmerican women and it all stems back to,
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and traces back to our roots in Africa,our ancestry, um, and our genealogy.
Um, I would also point to socioeconomicfactors, lifestyle factors.
Environment.
Um, and by the time we are and, and bythe, when we are diagnosed, um, it could
be that we are not going to the doctoror we have barriers, economic barriers or
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employment barriers, financial barriers.
So those, uh, are some of the factorsthat contribute to, um, diagnoses.
But genetics.
The fact that you're a woman, woman ofcolor just means you're at higher risk.
Interesting.
So October, as we know, it's Breast CancerAwareness Month, but what is the National
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Day dedicated to mammography awareness?
Oh, I don't know.
I, I encourage women to get mammogramsthree, you know, 365, not on Christmas,
but what is National Mammography Day?
So it's actually also this month,it is the third Friday of October.
So this month it will be October 17th.
Okay.
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Learn something from you.
Awesome.
And then the last one, this is gonna bethe hardest one, but in what year did.
SurviveHER launch.
That's so hard.
19.
We launched in October, 2020 and youhave accomplished so much in five years.
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I am so grateful to be apart of your community.
Maybe not as a, what is Breasty?
We call each other Breasty.
But you are Support her.
Oh, I love that you're support.
And so with Survive Her, you havedifferent events throughout the year.
I was blessed to be ableto sing at one of them.
Um, but you also have an annual soiree,so you have one coming up pretty soon.
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How is, uh, tell usabout that a little bit.
So our fifth annual surf SurviveHERsoiree, so it's our fifth
anniversary, so it's the year of.
Five her and our Pink Night of Givingwill be hosted Thursday, October 2nd at
the Soul seven Restaurant and Terraceat the Thompson Hotel on Allen Parkway,
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sponsored by Advantage BMW Midtown,and it is gonna be a fabulous evening.
Our goal for the night is toraise $100,000 to provide.
Critical financialassistance for uninsured and
underserved women in Houston.
Funding lifesaving mammogramsbecause a mammogram saved my life.
So we love to give back to supportwomen who can't afford that
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screening, um, and also supportwomen with breast health services.
So it's gonna live music.
Dj uh, Letoya Luckett is our guest host.
She's returning thisyear to lend her talent.
We're gonna have a silent auction, a liveauction, and an added bonus this year,
an after party poolside at the Thompson.
So it's gonna be a wonderful evening.
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Lots of pink, lots of VIPs and supporters.
We'll celebrate SurviveHERs.
We'll honor our, survive herchampion, some, um, amazing people
who have supported SurviveHERand, and community efforts.
So it's going to be quitea night, a great purpose.
Sounds like it.
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And then to end things out, um, I want to.
Two questions.
So one is, what advice do you havefor anyone else who wants to start a
movement or start an organization orsomething like you did with SurviveHER?
Ooh, that is such a greatquestion, which I, I get often.
I would recommend and suggestthat you start with your why.
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Hmm,
don't, you know, create a, youcould create a business plan,
a strategy, but start with thewhy, and then build upon that.
What is your goal?
What do you want to accomplish?
And what solution can you, can you solve?
There's a lot of problems inthe world, so you wanna think of
the why, uh, and the solution.
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And is your idea unique?
What makes it unique?
What makes it, um,what's creative about it?
But I would say start small withthe why, and then you can build your
business strategy, which is what I did.
25 page deck, thanks to my friend, theone who empowered me to file for divorce.
She also helped me build my,my, um, my business plan.
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And then you just.
You build a community slowly but surely.
Then there's like marketing trademarks,getting your website domain.
There's so many small facets that Ihad to learn as I was, I was, you know,
progressing in building the business, thenonprofit, and know that entrepreneurship
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is not for the faint of heart.
It is gonna require all of you.
I, I eat.
Sleep, breathe everything.
Survive her and all things pink.
'cause I'm so passionate about the work.
But I always remind myself, and even inthe moments of fatigue, what is my why?
And that is to inform,inspire, and empower women.
I stand strong on the mission statement,and that is the goal to execute on
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every day, every day of my life.
As you're sitting there in front of yourpink wall with your pink on, I love it.
And so I would love to close out.
I'm gonna end every episode thesame way I am a. Strong believer
in speaking things into power.
Um, and in fact this show cameout of me speaking it into power.
And my videographer, who isamazing, his name is Vic.
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Vic.
How do you pronounce your last name?
Her Heron Vic Heron.
I spoke it out loud.
Vic heard.
Vic said, I'm on board and so here we are.
Um, and so I would love.
To hear anything that's on yourheart that you would like to
speak into power in this moment?
Um, speak into power.
I speak into power, heal, whole,restored, refreshed, renewed women, um,
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women who have identified their purpose.
Um, I speak life.
I speak prosperity.
I speak.
Um, abundance and I speak divinebreakthroughs and whatever it is that
you are praying about or believing in,or it's an idea that you want to birth,
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I speak all of that into the universeand I speak power over, over you, the
woman who's watching this, and so it is.
Thank you so much for joining us, Lyndsay.
You're welcome.
It was so much fun.
I love this conversation.
We could talk another hour.
I know, right?
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But you know, people's detentionspans are short, so we're
gonna keep it to a half hour.
A phenomenal job.
Wonderful interview.
Thank you.
And I just pray for continued blessingsin that your show grows into a national.
Fran National, um,syndicated show I receive.
That's what I speak.
I receive it too.
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