August 27, 2025 • 19 mins
What happens when you strip away society's rulebook and start living authentically? Sara Quiriconi joins Outlaw Wisdom to reveal her fascinating journey from corporate checkbox-checker to actor, writer, and entrepreneur.
"I started to check those boxes off and realized how lost I was from who I really am," Sara shares, describing the moment she recognized she was living someone else's definition of success. This awakening led her to unravel the carefully constructed façade and embark on a path of self-discovery that transformed her career and personal life.
Sara's insights on acting are particularly valuable for anyone considering the profession. She emphasizes self-knowledge as the foundation for success: "Know who you are the best you can. The better you know yourself, the better you can make wiser decisions and choices." This wisdom extends beyond acting to universal truths about authentic living and personal growth.
The conversation takes a powerful turn when Sara discusses her book "Living Cancer Free," which explores the various "cancers" that can affect our lives—toxic thoughts, destructive relationships, soul-crushing jobs, and harmful lifestyles. "These things can have death knocking at our door long before we actually ever take our last breath," she explains. Her message emphasizes not just awareness of these negative influences, but the courage required to make meaningful changes.
Throughout the episode, Sara shares practical advice on navigating the entertainment industry, including why newcomers shouldn't rush to join the Screen Actors Guild, how to handle rejection, and the importance of viewing yourself as both the product and CEO of your personal brand. Her current work on multiple film projects demonstrates her commitment to storytelling and inspiring others.
Sara leaves listeners with a powerful call to action: "If there's something calling you, something from your intuition, do not ever silence that. Listen greater and follow it, because it's not going to go away." Listen now and discover how breaking free from society's expectations might be your first step toward living authentically.
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Drew Glick (00:02):
Welcome to Outlaw Wisdom.
Outlaw Wisdom Coming up nextDrew goes toe-to-toe with In a
one-on-one interview about life,love and everything in between.
Join Sarah as she sharespersonal stories and reveals how
she conquered her worst fears,overcame life-altering
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challenges, speaks in greatdetail about her inspirational
book Living Cancer-Free andshares memorable moments on her
journey as an actress inHollywood.
Welcome, Sarah.
We really appreciate you takingthe time to talk to us and to
tell the listeners all aboutyourself.
Sara Quiriconi (00:43):
I'm very excited to be here today and to
storytell.
Drew Glick (00:46):
You are a actor, writer and entrepreneur.
Is that correct?
Sara Quiriconi (00:49):
That is correct.
Yes, ever since I was younger,I was a born actor.
I was always playing, alwayscreating make-believe dressing
up, creating stories in my mindbut then acting them out in
different wardrobes, andcreating scenes in my backyard,
and always playing.
Drew Glick (01:07):
What was your favorite part to play?
Sara Quiriconi (01:09):
The funny thing is I was kind of like a fill-in
today.
I was so much the tomboy butalso the perilous princess, the
leading princess, where I wouldplay a lot in the Disney
characters and dressing up andat the same time I would also be
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dressing up as Indiana Jonesand I would have the satchel and
the hat.
It's a little bit of amiscongeniality but at the same
time, a strong Angelina Joliecharacter that has beauty, but
then levels and levels andlevels of depth that you can
uncover and put into all thesedifferent characters.
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When I was in college, youcould take electives and within
those electives there werealways artsy classes.
They're always differentperformance classes, so it's.
But I felt at the time that itwasn't a career, that I needed
to get a job in the corporateworld and check that box off and
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live the American checkboxdream.
When, in reality, I started tocheck those boxes off and
realized how lost I was from whoI really am, because I didn't
know who I was I was just goingaccording to this guide box of
check this, check this, checkthat and you are going to live a
happy American life, and I gotprobably three quarters down the
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check box and I'm like I don'tresonate with any of this and
this definitely doesn't feellike me.
I've seen this before, but thisdefinitely doesn't resonate
with me.
And that's when I started tounravel myself, to unravel the
outskirts of what the life Istarted to construct right,
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right, and I I'm over the courseof this podcast.
Drew Glick (03:07):
I've I've mentioned this more, I don't know, I've
probably sound like a brokenrecord.
I've said that people need tostay true to themselves and it's
, it's.
I'm happy to hear you say that.
Do you feel that that helpedyou to not fall into that like
nuclear family setting and bekind of, allow your life to be
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dictated by society?
Sara Quiriconi (03:31):
yes, and I think a big part of that was trying
that avenue and then realizinghow much that didn't work and
unraveling myself in manyself-destructive patterns.
But that also led me later towanting to figure out who I am
and doing all of thisself-discovery and showing up
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every day, especially today,doing the work, because the more
I know myself, the better I canshow up as an actor to do
justice to these characters.
Because if I don't know myself,how can I embody any other
character?
I'll just get lost and wrappedup in you know what I think it
needs to be, as opposed to justembodying, and I feel it's.
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It can be, it can be an easything to fall into what looks
like from the outside, becauseyou look to the outside and
society, or what most people do,or people from your hometown,
what they did, and it can looklike this is okay, this is, this
is the, the rule book, this isthe guide, this is the math of
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what I'm, what I need to do.
And the easy thing is to saythis is how, this is what I'm
going to do, I'm going to dowhat everybody else did and I
will be safe.
But safe is comfortable,comfortable, does not allow you
to grow, being uncomfortable,tapping in and really
questioning a lot of things thatare supposed to be that have to
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do.
Should all of those?
Those are the words that Iquestion.
It's like oh, who is they?
Who said you should do this?
Who is they?
Because?
Then I get really, reallyopposed if I'm told I should.
It's like who's that?
Who said that?
Drew Glick (05:17):
because I didn't say that you think that it's easier
to follow, as you said, therule book or to follow your own
path?
Sara Quiriconi (05:30):
Oh, I think it can be both.
It can be easier short term tofollow the rule book.
To follow the rule book longterm is setting yourself, I
believe, up for failure, or atleast to be very empty.
So, in the long term, eventhough it might take a little
longer to get there, stayingtrue to yourself, allowing that
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your internal compass to guideyou, I won't say that that is
the easiest path, but I do thinkit'll be the most rewarding and
fulfilling in the long term.
Drew Glick (06:04):
But I do think it'll be the most rewarding and
fulfilling in the long term.
Yeah, I agree with you 100%.
I've made the statementnumerous times, both in my books
and on this episode, thatpeople just don't know who they
are, and I think that kind ofties into what you're saying.
I've made the argument that ifpeople could just follow their
own path and I know Sam has alsosaid this as well it may be
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hard at times but, as you said,it will lead you down the right
path eventually.
Maybe not initially, maybeyou'll have some hardships and
struggles, but sooner or lateryou will come to that place that
you feel content in your lifeand happy with what you do and
who you are.
Do you agree with that?
Sara Quiriconi (06:46):
yes, absolutely, absolutely okay.
So otherwise you're justsearching outside to answer
what's within right, it's justlike you're living in a shell.
Drew Glick (06:56):
You're just, you know, kind of in an empty shell
of you know, you know there's nolight at the end of the tunnel,
right?
Exactly yeah, so sarah, tell mesome tell me a little bit about
your struggles.
You know there's no light atthe end of the tunnel, right,
Exactly yeah.
Sara Quiriconi (07:09):
So, Sarah, tell me some tell me a little bit
about your struggles.
How much time?
Drew Glick (07:14):
do we have?
We have as much time as youwant, but, um, give me, give me
one example of something thatyou know has been a struggle.
Maybe even today, it's sort oflike it's still in the back of
your mind and you're maybe havea little bit of regret, or maybe
you feel it could have beendone differently, the outcome
could have been better.
Where would you start?
(07:35):
What would you say?
Sara Quiriconi (07:36):
Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
You know there's.
Where do I begin?
I was just working.
Today.
One of my most recent mantras isworking on being rather than
doing so.
Going back to the checkboxmetaphor, I created all of these
internal rule books of how tooperate, what to do, and they
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kept me safe for a very longperiod of time.
In this career, in thisindustry entertainment, acting
life in general there is no rulebook, there is no checkbox and
checklist.
That's going to equate toeternal happiness and success,
and the billboard that you wantand the notoriety it's all
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coming within.
So one of the things that I'mcurrently working on to answer
your question is that I don'thave to earn my worth, that the
energy I present is the currency, and that currency is far more
valuable than a dollar amountbecause it's limitless.
So what kind of energy?
You know we're even exudingenergy by sharing these stories,
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by sharing these messages.
Is this going to impactsomebody and how that kind of
energy comes through?
That's the currency, notnecessarily of well, Drew, how
much you pay me for this?
Ok, OK, you're paying me forthis, right?
Ok, double Great, Thank you,and that's part of the work I've
been doing.
Drew is currently chucklingright now thinking I think I'm
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paying her.
Drew Glick (09:09):
Well, you know, I'm paying you peanuts.
You know that right.
Sara Quiriconi (09:14):
Oh, I really prefer almonds over peanuts, but
thank you.
Drew Glick (09:16):
No, no, no, I don't do, I don't do almonds.
Sara Quiriconi (09:19):
No, they're too.
They're too fancy for you, orwhat?
Drew Glick (09:22):
Yeah, Too expensive, too fancy for you, or what?
Yeah, too expensive.
So, Sarah, I know that, as Iwas, as we were developing this
episode, I had a tendency torepeat myself a lot and I went
on about people.
You know a lot of people intoday's society.
They don't.
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They want success but theydon't want to sacrifice.
Do you agree with that, Saban?
Sara Quiriconi (09:48):
I would say majority.
Yes, everybody wants the view,but who's willing to make the
clump?
It's the way I like to put it.
Drew Glick (09:56):
Right, and and you know, I know that you're a
fellow writer and I I had thisconversation with Sam and I he
asked me, like why did I writethe Wheelhouse?
And my answer to that was thatyou know because I guess a lot
of people have a misconceptionthat I wrote that book because I
was trying to, like, make moneyor have some kind of monetary
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value to my work, right, and Itold him that, hey, I wrote that
book for me because at the timeit was therapeutic.
And I tell our listeners thatwhatever you do in life, it
needs to make you happy.
Forget about everybody else.
You know who cares.
If your book sells one copy, athousand, it doesn't matter,
right?
(10:38):
So for someone like you, forsomeone like you who's always
out there, or, you know, for themayor rather, I'll call you the
mayor because I always call youthe man you're always doing
something.
You got your hands in every potwhen you do, when you put
together, you know, a book or avideo or anything that's
creative.
(10:59):
Can you tell everybody why youdo it?
What's what's, what is themotive behind why you get up out
of bed every day and do whatyou do?
Sara Quiriconi (11:09):
you know, when it comes to sharing a message,
because I feel there's two partsin that.
When it comes to sharing amessage or creating something,
there's a piece within me thatwants to share whatever that
energy, whatever that story,whatever that life lesson is
with somebody else, and if thatconnects or resonates with one
person, awesome.
(11:30):
If it was therapeutic for me toget it out without harming
anybody, then awesome, Becausesome people will put stuff out
there that is just a verbaldiarrhea, as they like to call
it, and it does nobody any goodand in the end it just soils the
energy of media.
Drew Glick (11:50):
Are you talking about me?
Am I that guy that puts thatshit out there that you know
soils the media, because I'malways blasting people?
Sara Quiriconi (11:56):
oh shit, that's what this is.
Drew Glick (11:58):
Huh, this is a roast you call that slander, we call
that slander I call it trademark.
Sara Quiriconi (12:04):
I'm gonna sue you.
Drew Glick (12:04):
Okay, those are jewish words I've said that to
you many times, haven't?
Yep?
So, sarah, let's go into, let'sgo into your book.
You, you wrote that book and Iknow that when I first met you,
we, we compared it, and maybeit's not the right word, I don't
want to compare it, but we, wetalked about the wheelhouse and
how it was very similar to yourbook.
Sara Quiriconi (12:26):
Yes, I'm sorry, go ahead very relatable to the
Wheelhouse because, in ways,we're storytelling real
experiences and ourinterpretation of them, and it
became a catharsis that I knowyour intentions were creating a
film.
My intention someday will be tocreate a film out of it, but
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the whole message of to sharethat story with others.
It, but the whole message of toshare that story with others,
and the interesting thing withLiving Cancer Free when I wrote
that I finished it in 2018.
Now my life from 2018 to nowhas tenfold 180, completely
different, which is awesome andfascinating.
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But in some way, there's alsothis piece of me.
I toil back and forth betweenwanting to rewrite, wanting to
create a second part, wanting totell a different narrative
because so much has changed, butat the same time, I also just
want to leave it and let it beand allow the story that has
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happened between then and now tojust to just unfold in
different ways, like noteverything has to be put into a
story.
I'm also recognizing great.
Drew Glick (13:44):
So talk about some of your acting.
What was, I don't know.
Maybe you don't recall, butwhat was the first acting job
you had?
It was a good or bad experiencemy first acting job.
Sara Quiriconi (13:56):
I was a barista in a college short film when I
was living in Boston at the timeand it was so fun.
It was just the whole dress upand I mean I love coffee, we
love coffee.
Drew Glick (14:12):
Life is better with coffee, right.
Sara Quiriconi (14:14):
Exactly, and I remember that being one of the
first, one of the first filmedpieces of work.
I don't think I ever saw thefinal product, but that was one
of the first things.
It was a very positiveexperience.
It was, I remember, justfeeling at home, but yet out of
place at the same time, becauseit was all different for me.
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I was so used to being incollege and that whole different
mindset, but it was so fun.
I remember being there and justthinking this is really cool.
Drew Glick (14:48):
Yeah, I know, I know that.
You know I've tried to givesome of my outlaw wisdom to
listeners out there that want topursue acting and entertainment
and film and whatever else thecase may be, and there's a lot
of horror stories out there.
And what advice would you giveto somebody that wants to get
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into the business?
What are the pitfalls, what tolook out for?
And just you know what words ofadvice can you give?
I guess that's what I'm asking,right.
Sara Quiriconi (15:20):
Is that what I'm ?
Drew Glick (15:21):
asking Sam.
Sara Quiriconi (15:22):
What am I asking right now?
I would say to anyone who'swanting to get into this
business know who you are thebest you can.
Learn as much as you can aboutyourself, because the better you
know yourself, the better thatyou can make wiser decisions and
choices.
There are, yes, can be, a lotof pitfalls, but when you know
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who you are, you will make morealigned choices for your career,
for the characters you take on,for how you show up to portray
the character, your auditions onset, what you bring your
professionalism.
Remember it's a business and tonot take everything personal to
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you.
You'll take some thingspersonal, but don't take
everything personal because, atthe end of the day, it is a
business and it comes down tobusiness decisions most of the
time.
And, yeah, it's, it's knowingyourself and to not take too
much personal.
If you love it, you're going tostick.
You're going to stick with itIf you love it.
(16:26):
Right.
Drew Glick (16:27):
And I think I think the only thing I would add into
that statement, sarah, which Ithink a lot of people that get
into the industry tend tooverlook, is that you're selling
yourself right Like you don'thave anything tangible.
It's not like you're sellingcoffee or you're at Walmart
packing bags.
I think it's important andmaybe you don't agree, but
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hopefully you do that peopleremember that they're selling
themselves.
You do that people rememberthat they're selling themselves.
So this kind of like goes intothat gray area of like watching
what you do on social media,watching what you say, how you
say it, who you say it to.
Right absolutely so have youever encountered somebody like
that?
Have you ever come acrosssomebody that doesn't or refuses
to understand that they are thecommodity?
Sara Quiriconi (17:11):
of course I.
For a while and I still have itactive.
I'm leading a business ofactors workshop and the first
thing we go into is you're theCEO of your business, you are
the product, you're also the PRdepartment, you're also the
advertising department, you'realso the R and D.
You're all of those hats puttogether, but first and foremost
, you, the actor, you are theproduct.
(17:32):
And what is going to make acasting director, a director, a
producer turn their head to sayI want that product from the
shelf, not all the 5,000 othersthat are out there doing
submissions?
Yeah, but how do you handlerejection, which that happens a
lot, right?
(17:53):
Yeah, it goes trying for partsand never getting it, and they
keep trying to keep trying getbeing rejected now well, there's
two parts of it there.
I mean, I grew up in thecreative field, as an art
director early on, and in thearts one of the best things I
learned was rejection you will,you, you know it's creative
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redirection.
And I also learned to takeconstructive criticism, because
some criticism are just peoplebecause we can swear on here,
they're people being assholesand other criticism are people
genuinely giving feedback thatmaybe turn an ear towards.
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So know who is giving thefeedback and is it critical or
is it constructive.
And the other part of it isletting go of the expectation
for the outcome.
If you submit an audition forsomething and you expect to get
it, you are immediately settingyourself up to fail, meaning
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you're setting such a highexpectation that is pretty
unrealistic and I'm all forhaving limitless beliefs.
Drew Glick (19:06):
But at the same time , letting go of the expectation
will create more joy in themoment of the actual art and
craft right, right, and I mean II remember and I don't know,
sarah, I don't know if you evercame across this interview, but
I remember I watched aninterview with jennifer aniston
one time and she might I can'tremember the exact number of
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auditions, but I know it musthave been like a thousand plus
until she got a breakout role.
Right.
Doesn't mean that she didn't doother work.
I mean she starred inleprechaun, okay, I mean that
most people would be like oh,you're not.
You're never gonna go nowhere.
You're not fucking.
Yeah, I mean, it was that movie, whatever you know.
I mean, and just like you know,courtney cox got her started
massive masses of the universewith, with dove lundgren, right?
(19:50):
So in words, I think what I'mgetting is like everybody got to
start somewhere, but again,with, like your comment, it's
got to be realistic because atthe end of the day and I don't
know how many people have everheard this, but only 1% of
people that go into the industrywill ever succeed, right.
But again, I think success isdetermined by your own, your own
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, you know.
I think people determine theirown success, right.
So what is this?
What level of success makessomebody happy?
Is what I'm getting at, right,like I could be happy and
successful selling one copy ofmy book?
Somebody else may say, hey, Igot to sell 10,000 copies before
I feel like I'm successful,right?
Yeah, I mean, do you feel thatway?
(20:31):
Like you know?
I mean, I guess, sarah, whatI'm asking you is like when you
get I hate to use the wordrejected, but when you get
rejected from an audition, itdoesn't crush you, right?
Like you're not like ready tothrow in the towel and go into
another career, right?
You just move on and you knowyou just take it with a grain of
salt and you're waiting for thenext opportunity, right?
Sara Quiriconi (20:54):
Yes, and I'll take time as well and look at
some of my auditions.
I see the ones that book meroles and then I'll see some
that I will take a reflectionmoment and look through some of
them and I can tell what'sworking and what's not, where
it's falling flat.
And then that's where I alsolean on coaches and I have
support.
(21:14):
Fortunately, I'm in classes, Ihave acting coaches and I can
say you know, here's what I'mworking on.
Do you see where I can improveor what can we work on today?
Because there's also a learningelement that never ends.
No matter what path you're on,there's always you know it's one
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of my tattoos in Italian,ancora in paro and always
learning, and that beginner'smind approach can make
everything awe-inspiring andincredible.
And at the same time thenyou're in a far more playful
mood, as opposed to going in andlike, okay, I have to get this
out, because people can smelldesperation.
They can smell when you aredesperate to get something or
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you're afraid.
They will smell that in theaudition unless it's a horror
film and you need to look afraidit's not going to come across
good yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean, I remember I told Sam a story
about a young guy I mentoredback in the day.
Drew Glick (22:15):
He wanted to break into stunts and you know, he
finally did it and he and hebecame really successful.
And he and his mother told meone time hey, drew, thank you
everything, thank you foreverything you've done for my
son.
I said, look, I didn't donothing for your son.
All I did was give him the onething he was missing, which is
confidence.
And I think people that go intothe industry, like like you
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said, sarah, have to first getto that, that place in their own
head, in their own body, wherethey're comfortable in their own
skin.
And because, if, if, they can'tgo into an audition, you know,
with that vibe and like you said, people are going to feel it,
the casting director is going tofeel it and once they smell
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weakness, that's it.
Sara Quiriconi (23:01):
They don't want you Absolutely.
Drew Glick (23:04):
You know it's survival of the fittest out
there in Hollywood.
They don't call Hollywoodcutthroat for nothing, right,
sarah?
Sara Quiriconi (23:11):
It's 100% and it's who's who's gonna stick
around.
You know you hang around thebarbershop long enough, you're
gonna get a haircut and he wasdenzel who said that.
But oh, you can't just pack upshop, because year one you
didn't get your sad card and,you know, land in a role next to
brad pitt.
It's just not the way it canvery rarely.
Drew Glick (23:35):
But we both know, Sarah, that it's not wise to get
into SAG day one of your career.
We know that's a bad choice,right.
Sara Quiriconi (23:42):
Absolutely, yes, absolutely.
We've had that conversationbefore.
Drew Glick (23:47):
Sam, just asked you why.
Let's hear from yourperspective, sarah.
Sara Quiriconi (23:51):
Yes.
So when you are, when you're asag, you then can no longer take
part in any other non-unionprojects.
What that does is it puts youin a very high level playing
field that if you have zerocredits, it is also going to be
10 times more challenging toever earn any credits to your
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name.
Therefore, can you take thetime to build the craft, to
build some of the credits withshorts, with student films, with
creating some of your own filmsor one of your friends that you
want to star in so you actuallyget some set time because you
have zero set time?
It's very challenging toconvince a producer who's
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spending 60 million dollarsbudgeted feature to then put an
unknown day player, which issomebody who will do one day's
work on a feature and trust thatthey're actually going to know
what they're going to do,without ogling at stars or be
stuck at crafties or just nevershow up on time.
They're not going to have muchfaith in you.
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But if you have a proof of thework you've done, you've then
proven that you are capable,professional, will show up, that
you actually know what you'redoing and you're going to
remember your lines and show upand do your job for the day.
It's like you wouldn't walkinto Goldman Sachs and ask to be
their lead trader.
You need to work your way up.
(25:18):
Same thing in acting.
Drew Glick (25:20):
And this brings me back to a conversation I had
with you, Sam, earlier today.
I talked about tenure, right?
So I made a comment I'm goingto get my tenure in a year, Sam,
because it's 10 years inCalifornia, right?
I'm going to get my tenure in ayear, Sam, because it's 10
years in California, right?
So I think that what I, myadvice to people out there would
be that put your time in.
(25:41):
You know, don't, don't be so,don't be so eager to get to the
top of the mountain right away,because you're just going to
fall back down.
But do you agree with thatstatement, Sarah?
Do you think that's?
Sara Quiriconi (25:49):
important.
Drew Glick (25:50):
You do.
Sara Quiriconi (25:52):
Absolutely, because then you're working your
way into and you also buildconfidence in yourself.
When you have confidence inyourself, you will.
It goes back to the energy youwill show.
You will showcase that energyand it's that energy that is
magnetic on camera, with otheractors, with all the other crew
that's on set.
That makes the biggestdifference.
Drew Glick (26:14):
Right, yeah, exactly .
You took the words right out ofmy mouth, Sarah.
Sara Quiriconi (26:17):
So it limits you ahead of time, but if you
already have a background, thenit'll give you wings afterwards.
Exactly, yes, exactly.
Drew Glick (26:25):
Yeah.
So all right, sarah, tell meabout.
Tell me about Call of Duty.
I want to know about Call ofDuty.
What did you do on Call of Dutyagain?
Sara Quiriconi (26:36):
I was on the poster cover as Dr Gray.
Drew Glick (26:40):
Which one was it again, the six Black Ops, six.
Sara Quiriconi (26:44):
Yes, exactly, black Ops six.
Drew Glick (26:48):
And you and you, and I don't want to, I don't want
to use the word model, but youmodeled for that one.
Sara Quiriconi (26:53):
Is that what that was?
Yes, technically, I showed upon the day of production.
We didn't know what it was.
It was more so untitled, theyshowcase the storyboards, and
then I don't know a whole lotabout video games, but I I know
Call of Duty, and seeing whatthey were doing, I was like, wow
, this is, this is the real deal, and it was a day of learning
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both proper weaponry tactics andthen also just shooting all day
different.
There there are all photos thatthey later then framed into, I
think, a few different promoslike POP posters and such.
So I was Dr Samantha gray forthat.
Drew Glick (27:37):
Hmm, hmm.
Now when you say shooting, youweren't, it wasn't live fire,
was it, was it blank, so was itjust like empty barrels?
Sara Quiriconi (27:44):
No empty.
Yeah, everything was fullyempty.
Everything was checked,everything was incredibly
professional.
Drew Glick (27:49):
Yes, that's good.
You had a good problem, master,on that one.
So all right, look.
So now we got to bring itforward.
We got to talk some shit rightnow, and we got to talk some
shit about me oh fun.
So you and I have known eachother what?
Four or five years?
No, then yes yes okay, so sotell the people how you met me,
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was you know, and, and what yourfirst impressions of me were
you are well, I've now come toknow you as the sweetest asshole
you are by the way, nobody outthere can use that shit all
right, everybody's using itpeople gonna get sued, fuck them
it's no knowledge.
Now you are a fighter wait, holdon you see how she had to think
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about that.
She kind of paused.
Sara Quiriconi (28:43):
I was still going to say the sweetest
asshole.
I was going to say the sweetestasshole, again I.
You are a fighter on theoutside, a heart on the inside,
with a wise mind that wants toshare that wisdom to whoever has
open ears to hear it.
(29:04):
There's not a lot of peoplehave open ears let's do good.
Come on spill the beans.
So now, sarah, how do we meetthough?
Drew Glick (29:14):
well, well, I can't remember how do we meet, though.
Well, I can't remember how didwe meet.
What was it that?
Was it an ad or a posting, orsomething like that?
Sara Quiriconi (29:22):
Yes, it was.
What was was Mandy.
That is now, I think, owned byIMDb and it was a listing for
this character.
Can we name names of characters?
Drew Glick (29:32):
Yes, go for it.
Sara Quiriconi (29:34):
Vanessa, vanessa , it was.
I remember I submitted to it.
Jeez, it was so long ago.
I was actually living in Miamiat the time and it was this a
headshot photo.
I was in a denim jacket, prettybut still a little roughed up,
and we got, I believe, in thesubmission notes I wrote how I
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appreciated that this was basedon a true story of redemption,
resilience, and how I resonatedwith the story and message
similar to my book.
And then from there we did acouple reads, some rehearsals at
the time, but that's initiallyhow it started.
It was through that submissionright.
Drew Glick (30:19):
Yeah, I mean we the project got stalled.
I'm not trying to, I'm nottrying to blame, I'm not trying
to point fingers and put blame,you know, I mean, well, we got
to say that, we got to say it,sam.
We got to say it got stalledbecause of what?
Sarah covet right I, I thoughtyou were just being lazy.
Yeah, that's that.
Everybody blames, cover foreverything.
Sara Quiriconi (30:40):
My call breaks down tomorrow.
I'm blaming covet yeah, that orthe full moon.
Drew Glick (30:44):
One of the two so now, recently, what a month,
month and a half ago, whateverwe started, you started training
with stunts, with for the, thesecond episode of the limited
series that you referencedbriefly, and having the
experience with the call of dutyand going to that was it.
(31:07):
I guess.
What I want to ask you was iteasier of a transition?
Was it easier to come into thatlike kicking and punching and
falling, or was it still allkind of new to you?
Were you still kind of likelearning the body mechanics?
Because I know, I know you sentme some pretty, some pretty
belligerent text messages.
You were like drew thismotherfucker, you hurt me, you
know, I mean, I'm sore as hell,right, you remember that?
(31:28):
I remember I still got him asblackmail did I receive
workman's comp for that?
I forget that that's not, that'sno longer so.
Talk a little bit about that,so you know, and then we'll, and
then we'll go and we'll talkabout why you're doing those
stunts.
Sara Quiriconi (31:46):
But let's start with the, with the basics first
I never sent those text messagesfor the record, but I do recall
you sending me text messagessaying I'm so sore from when you
drop kicked me.
Drew Glick (32:01):
No, jokes aside it was yeah, see, I still have my
front teeth in.
They haven't finished the plateyet.
Sara Quiriconi (32:07):
You'll get implants, it'll be fine.
Drew Glick (32:09):
You're paying for that right.
Sara Quiriconi (32:11):
No, it was under your insurance.
Drew Glick (32:14):
Yeah right, what insurance?
Kidding, kidding.
Sara Quiriconi (32:18):
They don't cover anything anyway, the.
So the fight training itselfand the stunt training it was.
It's very different, it's veryhand-to-hand combat.
Combat is very different fromweaponry and handling, but it's
also fascinating from aself-defense perspective and how
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important movement is withinthe body, what energy you give
off, what, and then you takethat and you, you learn
technique and then transition itinto who the character is.
And so Vanessa being, withoutsharing too much, she's a
scrappy and little fighter andshe's small and can be delicate
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but also can be fierce, and thatneeds to come across in the
fighting style.
So you start to learn theproper constructs but then morph
that into who this character isand that that's the next level
and layer for where we are withthe trainings and the stunt
(33:24):
training you know, and this maythis may sound weird, but I'm
really looking forward to theday that sarah cracks me over
the head with a breakaway bottle.
Drew Glick (33:36):
That's how the fight starts.
That's good.
No, not not the balls.
We're not going there yet.
But well, she's small.
Sara Quiriconi (33:41):
Yeah, yeah, but I have an arm yeah, I'm looking
forward to that.
Drew Glick (33:46):
I think that's going to be a really interesting, you
know, because because hercharacter is an instigator and
you know not to bring you backto day one, sarah, but you know
you're going to be a baristathis time.
So you know, sadly, life worksin circles, you know.
Sara Quiriconi (34:04):
I'm a bartender.
Drew Glick (34:10):
So now, now we haven't really talked about your
book let's talk about that book, I mean, in more detail.
Okay, I know you said the name.
Let's, let's put it all outthere, let's put the cards on
the table, and let's let's,let's know, let's find out who
Sarah really is table and let's,let's, let's know, let's find
out who sarah really is.
Sara Quiriconi (34:26):
Living cancer free is the title of the book,
and what I allude to with thatis there are many different
cancers that one can come toterms with in their life.
It's not just a physical cancer, but it's also the thoughts
that we tell ourselves, theexercise or the lack of exercise
and movement, the foods that weeat, the relationships that we
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stay in too long, the jobs thatsuck the life out of us all of
those things that can be acancer, that can have death
knocking at our door long beforewe actually ever take our last
breath.
And can we be self actualizedto realize that we need to make
those changes and have thecourage to do so?
Because you can be aware thatsomething needs to change.
(35:11):
But then are you going to havethe courage to actually make
that happen and can you overcomethose cancers?
That's what I talk aboutthrough in my book and I've been
through within the book.
It shares my theory and thesisaround cancers within the body,
the life, the mind, spirituality, the environment, but then also
(35:35):
my own life experiences throughthem.
So it's yes, it's relationships, yes, it's career changes, it's
eating disorders, it'salcoholism.
It is real life cancer.
It is later moving I didn't getthere yet in the book, but
finding all these differenttwists and turns, you know, in
(35:58):
acting and in storytellingthey're different acts they're,
and in storytelling they'redifferent acts, they're
different beats, they'redifferent notes, and that's what
a lot of my life has been,these little pivots, and so I
share and express all of that inthis book, along the way and
the lessons that I take, hmm,hmm, I want to ask you a
personal question, sarah.
Drew Glick (36:20):
Maybe I know like when I I went through the
struggles, trials andtribulations, I had a very small
, if any, support network, andI'm just curious to know you
(36:43):
think, if I remember correctly,you had a pretty vast support
network when you went throughall this and you were trying to
overcome this, right?
So, in other words, I thinklike what I'm trying to get at
is like you weren't alone inyour struggles, right, like you
didn't have to face thesechallenges every day on your own
and try to figure it out.
Sara Quiriconi (37:02):
You know better or worse um, in some ways yes
and in some ways no.
I allowed in what I allowed inand I also I, I'm sorry.
Drew Glick (37:16):
I said I mean the road trip.
I think what I'm.
What I'm asking is uh, I knowwe all go into our own head and
we try to work our work it outto the best of our ability
externally.
You know and I'm getting toopersonal you can tell me to shut
up and kick rocks, right, butdid you have family, siblings?
You know anybody that really, Iguess, continue to motivate you
(37:42):
that, hey, you'll get throughit, you can do it that were
there for you when you neededthem.
Sara Quiriconi (37:47):
Well, at different points in my life,
that's where I was getting to.
So you can shut up and kickrocks.
You can shut up and kick rocksbecause I was getting there.
I'm a storyteller, lady B.
This is free air time.
I I should have been nauseous.
I Italian talk here.
(38:09):
When I was going through cancer,I had a very small reach of
support, but it was very deep.
So it was my parents, mybrother and then my at the time
boyfriend.
It was very deep.
So it was my parents, mybrother and then my at the time
boyfriend.
That was really it and perhapsit's.
I was a little.
Perhaps at that time I washoping that I would have more,
(38:33):
but it was what I had and it wasdeep and it was what the
universe wanted to give me atthat time.
Going through eating disorderalcohol.
A lot of the time it was deepand it was what the universe
wanted to give me at that time.
Going through eating disorderalcohol.
A lot of the time it was bymyself because I closed myself
off to a lot of others.
And it wasn't until I was in myit was like mid-20s that I
(38:57):
really started to open up andstart to accept in some of the
assistance and light andguidance that, oh, there's
another way I could do thisthing called life.
And that's where I started tothen tap into my relationship at
the time, which was my firstmarriage and yoga community.
I started getting really intoyoga at that time to connect
(39:18):
with myself, which allowed me toconnect with others, and that
started to open up moreconnections and allow for more
support.
But from there I've alsonoticed too how, over the years,
groups of friends change, andthat's OK too.
That's OK too.
Drew Glick (39:40):
So what do you want to nowadays?
What's going on in your life?
Sara Quiriconi (39:46):
I am Well looking forward to the next
stunt training when I can crackthat bottle over your head.
Drew Glick (39:52):
Let's see, the first time we do it, I do it with a
water bottle.
I'm not putting a bottle inyour hand the first time.
I'm sorry, sure, remember, Ionly got one good eye, so you, I
can't lose the other eyeanymore.
Sara Quiriconi (40:05):
So just look the other way, it'll be fine.
I'm currently going to be apart of two additional indie
films that I've recently booked.
I am working on two short films, two features, a screenplay
myself, and I mean there'salways a couple projects that
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I'm also simultaneously workingon producing.
There's a lot of differentballs being juggled, but always
the intention to storytell andinspire others to live their
best life, and mainly throughacting, followed by writing and
producing sounds good.
Drew Glick (40:50):
This is why I call her the mayor.
Yeah, girl, never sits.
Still, you can't, you know,always in a meeting, always in a
meeting.
Gotta tighten those reins alittle bit, you know or a
podcast interview exactly so,sarah, is there anything else
you'd like to put out there?
Sara Quiriconi (41:14):
if there's something calling you to a life
that you can become in tune with, something from your intuition
is calling to you.
Do not ever silence that.
Listen greater and follow it,because it's not going to go
away.
It will just be there for therest of your life and it is your
life, so do not settle and liveit very good voice exactly
(41:40):
exactly okay, sarah.
Drew Glick (41:43):
Well, it was great having you and we really
appreciate your time and we willkeep tabs on you and hopefully
see you in the next bigblockbuster please do, please do
and we'll see you soon for thestunts.
Sara Quiriconi (41:58):
Where can people ?
Drew Glick (41:58):
get your book.
Sara Quiriconi (42:01):
Every bit of resource.
It's on Amazon.
It is Seriously.
I went to go buy toothpicksearlier.
I'm like Amazon, it's justeasier.
Why am I going to drive up toCVS?
You can find the book on Amazonin softcover, ebook and now
Audible.
You can also find all of myinformation on my website,
(42:22):
sarahkirikonicom.
Drew Glick (42:26):
Great great, and you have IMDb right If people want
to look you up.
Sara Quiriconi (42:31):
Absolutely.
I have that little fancy.
I forget what they call it thevanity, the vanity.
Drew Glick (42:37):
Oh, you got the vanity.
Oh, she's got the vanity I doyou got to be in the to get that
one man.
Sara Quiriconi (42:45):
I know my nose is up there, trust me girl.
Drew Glick (42:49):
No joke, don't sleep on, sarah, man.
Well, it was great talking toyou, sarah.
Look forward to seeing youagain.
Yes, we really appreciate yourtime.
We really appreciate your time.
We really appreciate your time.
Sara Quiriconi (43:04):
Yeah.
Drew Glick (43:05):
And that's about it.
Sara Quiriconi (43:07):
Thank you both Appreciate it.
Glad to share and inspireothers to the message.
Thank you, sarah.
Thank you, sarah, nice talkingto you.
Drew Glick (43:18):
Bye-bye, Sarah.
Sara Quiriconi (43:19):
Okay, bye.
Bye, bye-bye, sarah.
Okay, bye, bye.
Yeah, still on.
No, she's off.
Drew Glick (43:28):
What happened?
You didn't like it.
No, it was good.
I mean, the beginning was alittle stutter-stepping, but we
got into it yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did 45 minutes, no, a littleunder 40.
40 minutes excellent, so youdon't have to cut too much yeah,
yeah, yeah it's good.
I mean you think we coveredpretty much what we covered last
time.
Sara Quiriconi (43:46):
She was more relaxed this time too.
Drew Glick (43:48):
Oh really, yeah it was better than we did another
one.
Sara Quiriconi (43:51):
See, everything happens for a fucking reason a
lot clearer and more subtleenough room to talk and not
worry about time and whatever,because at the beginning it's
like we wanted eight minutes,where now you can have the whole
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, peoplelike it like it.
They know actors gonna listento it.
Young is yeah yeah, depends onwhat you care about.
(44:13):
You know the interview withyeah yeah, yeah yeah, which is
good.
Yeah, no, no, that's awesome.
She was very relaxed, that'sgood.
Drew Glick (44:23):
I'm glad you thought so.
Queer or con?
It only took me 10 times tofucking figure out how to say
the motherfucker.
You keep saying queer or con.
That's a guy, that's becausethat's.
I mean.
Look, that's how I said it forfive fucking years.
I mean I'm like Sarah, what thefuck you didn't fucking, why
can't I end the motherfuckerthough.
Oh, here we go.
Okay, so now we got to bring itforward.
(44:44):
We got to talk some shit rightnow and we got to talk some shit
about me.
Tell the people how you met meand what your first impressions
of me were.
Sara Quiriconi (44:52):
You are.
Drew Glick (44:54):
Wait, hold on.
Do you see how she had to thinkabout that?
(45:25):
you've been listening to outlawwisdom.
Sara Quiriconi (45:27):
New episodes drop every week until next time,
no retreat, no surrender staystrong.
Drew Glick (45:33):
Spread the word.
The outlaws are here to stay.
Welcome to Outlaw Wisdom.
Outlaw Wisdom Coming up nextDrew goes toe-to-toe with In a
one-on-one interview about life,love and everything in between.
Join Sarah as she sharespersonal stories and reveals how
she conquered her worst fears,overcame life-altering
(00:23):
challenges, speaks in greatdetail about her inspirational
book Living Cancer-Free andshares memorable moments on her
journey as an actress inHollywood.
Welcome, Sarah.
We really appreciate you takingthe time to talk to us and to
tell the listeners all aboutyourself.
Sara Quiriconi (00:43):
I'm very excited to be here today and to
storytell.
Drew Glick (00:46):
You are a actor, writer and entrepreneur.
Is that correct?
Sara Quiriconi (00:49):
That is correct.
Yes, ever since I was younger,I was a born actor.
I was always playing, alwayscreating make-believe dressing
up, creating stories in my mindbut then acting them out in
different wardrobes, andcreating scenes in my backyard,
and always playing.
Drew Glick (01:07):
What was your favorite part to play?
Sara Quiriconi (01:09):
The funny thing is I was kind of like a fill-in
today.
I was so much the tomboy butalso the perilous princess, the
leading princess, where I wouldplay a lot in the Disney
characters and dressing up andat the same time I would also be
(01:33):
dressing up as Indiana Jonesand I would have the satchel and
the hat.
It's a little bit of amiscongeniality but at the same
time, a strong Angelina Joliecharacter that has beauty, but
then levels and levels andlevels of depth that you can
uncover and put into all thesedifferent characters.
(01:54):
When I was in college, youcould take electives and within
those electives there werealways artsy classes.
They're always differentperformance classes, so it's.
But I felt at the time that itwasn't a career, that I needed
to get a job in the corporateworld and check that box off and
(02:16):
live the American checkboxdream.
When, in reality, I started tocheck those boxes off and
realized how lost I was from whoI really am, because I didn't
know who I was I was just goingaccording to this guide box of
check this, check this, checkthat and you are going to live a
happy American life, and I gotprobably three quarters down the
(02:40):
check box and I'm like I don'tresonate with any of this and
this definitely doesn't feellike me.
I've seen this before, but thisdefinitely doesn't resonate
with me.
And that's when I started tounravel myself, to unravel the
outskirts of what the life Istarted to construct right,
(03:02):
right, and I I'm over the courseof this podcast.
Drew Glick (03:07):
I've I've mentioned this more, I don't know, I've
probably sound like a brokenrecord.
I've said that people need tostay true to themselves and it's
, it's.
I'm happy to hear you say that.
Do you feel that that helpedyou to not fall into that like
nuclear family setting and bekind of, allow your life to be
(03:27):
dictated by society?
Sara Quiriconi (03:31):
yes, and I think a big part of that was trying
that avenue and then realizinghow much that didn't work and
unraveling myself in manyself-destructive patterns.
But that also led me later towanting to figure out who I am
and doing all of thisself-discovery and showing up
(03:53):
every day, especially today,doing the work, because the more
I know myself, the better I canshow up as an actor to do
justice to these characters.
Because if I don't know myself,how can I embody any other
character?
I'll just get lost and wrappedup in you know what I think it
needs to be, as opposed to justembodying, and I feel it's.
(04:17):
It can be, it can be an easything to fall into what looks
like from the outside, becauseyou look to the outside and
society, or what most people do,or people from your hometown,
what they did, and it can looklike this is okay, this is, this
is the, the rule book, this isthe guide, this is the math of
(04:38):
what I'm, what I need to do.
And the easy thing is to saythis is how, this is what I'm
going to do, I'm going to dowhat everybody else did and I
will be safe.
But safe is comfortable,comfortable, does not allow you
to grow, being uncomfortable,tapping in and really
questioning a lot of things thatare supposed to be that have to
(04:58):
do.
Should all of those?
Those are the words that Iquestion.
It's like oh, who is they?
Who said you should do this?
Who is they?
Because?
Then I get really, reallyopposed if I'm told I should.
It's like who's that?
Who said that?
Drew Glick (05:17):
because I didn't say that you think that it's easier
to follow, as you said, therule book or to follow your own
path?
Sara Quiriconi (05:30):
Oh, I think it can be both.
It can be easier short term tofollow the rule book.
To follow the rule book longterm is setting yourself, I
believe, up for failure, or atleast to be very empty.
So, in the long term, eventhough it might take a little
longer to get there, stayingtrue to yourself, allowing that
(05:53):
your internal compass to guideyou, I won't say that that is
the easiest path, but I do thinkit'll be the most rewarding and
fulfilling in the long term.
Drew Glick (06:04):
But I do think it'll be the most rewarding and
fulfilling in the long term.
Yeah, I agree with you 100%.
I've made the statementnumerous times, both in my books
and on this episode, thatpeople just don't know who they
are, and I think that kind ofties into what you're saying.
I've made the argument that ifpeople could just follow their
own path and I know Sam has alsosaid this as well it may be
(06:27):
hard at times but, as you said,it will lead you down the right
path eventually.
Maybe not initially, maybeyou'll have some hardships and
struggles, but sooner or lateryou will come to that place that
you feel content in your lifeand happy with what you do and
who you are.
Do you agree with that?
Sara Quiriconi (06:46):
yes, absolutely, absolutely okay.
So otherwise you're justsearching outside to answer
what's within right, it's justlike you're living in a shell.
Drew Glick (06:56):
You're just, you know, kind of in an empty shell
of you know, you know there's nolight at the end of the tunnel,
right?
Exactly yeah, so sarah, tell mesome tell me a little bit about
your struggles.
You know there's no light atthe end of the tunnel, right,
Exactly yeah.
Sara Quiriconi (07:09):
So, Sarah, tell me some tell me a little bit
about your struggles.
How much time?
Drew Glick (07:14):
do we have?
We have as much time as youwant, but, um, give me, give me
one example of something thatyou know has been a struggle.
Maybe even today, it's sort oflike it's still in the back of
your mind and you're maybe havea little bit of regret, or maybe
you feel it could have beendone differently, the outcome
could have been better.
Where would you start?
(07:35):
What would you say?
Sara Quiriconi (07:36):
Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
You know there's.
Where do I begin?
I was just working.
Today.
One of my most recent mantras isworking on being rather than
doing so.
Going back to the checkboxmetaphor, I created all of these
internal rule books of how tooperate, what to do, and they
(07:59):
kept me safe for a very longperiod of time.
In this career, in thisindustry entertainment, acting
life in general there is no rulebook, there is no checkbox and
checklist.
That's going to equate toeternal happiness and success,
and the billboard that you wantand the notoriety it's all
(08:21):
coming within.
So one of the things that I'mcurrently working on to answer
your question is that I don'thave to earn my worth, that the
energy I present is the currency, and that currency is far more
valuable than a dollar amountbecause it's limitless.
So what kind of energy?
You know we're even exudingenergy by sharing these stories,
(08:44):
by sharing these messages.
Is this going to impactsomebody and how that kind of
energy comes through?
That's the currency, notnecessarily of well, Drew, how
much you pay me for this?
Ok, OK, you're paying me forthis, right?
Ok, double Great, Thank you,and that's part of the work I've
been doing.
Drew is currently chucklingright now thinking I think I'm
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paying her.
Drew Glick (09:09):
Well, you know, I'm paying you peanuts.
You know that right.
Sara Quiriconi (09:14):
Oh, I really prefer almonds over peanuts, but
thank you.
Drew Glick (09:16):
No, no, no, I don't do, I don't do almonds.
Sara Quiriconi (09:19):
No, they're too.
They're too fancy for you, orwhat?
Drew Glick (09:22):
Yeah, Too expensive, too fancy for you, or what?
Yeah, too expensive.
So, Sarah, I know that, as Iwas, as we were developing this
episode, I had a tendency torepeat myself a lot and I went
on about people.
You know a lot of people intoday's society.
They don't.
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They want success but theydon't want to sacrifice.
Do you agree with that, Saban?
Sara Quiriconi (09:48):
I would say majority.
Yes, everybody wants the view,but who's willing to make the
clump?
It's the way I like to put it.
Drew Glick (09:56):
Right, and and you know, I know that you're a
fellow writer and I I had thisconversation with Sam and I he
asked me, like why did I writethe Wheelhouse?
And my answer to that was thatyou know because I guess a lot
of people have a misconceptionthat I wrote that book because I
was trying to, like, make moneyor have some kind of monetary
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value to my work, right, and Itold him that, hey, I wrote that
book for me because at the timeit was therapeutic.
And I tell our listeners thatwhatever you do in life, it
needs to make you happy.
Forget about everybody else.
You know who cares.
If your book sells one copy, athousand, it doesn't matter,
right?
(10:38):
So for someone like you, forsomeone like you who's always
out there, or, you know, for themayor rather, I'll call you the
mayor because I always call youthe man you're always doing
something.
You got your hands in every potwhen you do, when you put
together, you know, a book or avideo or anything that's
creative.
(10:59):
Can you tell everybody why youdo it?
What's what's, what is themotive behind why you get up out
of bed every day and do whatyou do?
Sara Quiriconi (11:09):
you know, when it comes to sharing a message,
because I feel there's two partsin that.
When it comes to sharing amessage or creating something,
there's a piece within me thatwants to share whatever that
energy, whatever that story,whatever that life lesson is
with somebody else, and if thatconnects or resonates with one
person, awesome.
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If it was therapeutic for me toget it out without harming
anybody, then awesome, Becausesome people will put stuff out
there that is just a verbaldiarrhea, as they like to call
it, and it does nobody any goodand in the end it just soils the
energy of media.
Drew Glick (11:50):
Are you talking about me?
Am I that guy that puts thatshit out there that you know
soils the media, because I'malways blasting people?
Sara Quiriconi (11:56):
oh shit, that's what this is.
Drew Glick (11:58):
Huh, this is a roast you call that slander, we call
that slander I call it trademark.
Sara Quiriconi (12:04):
I'm gonna sue you.
Drew Glick (12:04):
Okay, those are jewish words I've said that to
you many times, haven't?
Yep?
So, sarah, let's go into, let'sgo into your book.
You, you wrote that book and Iknow that when I first met you,
we, we compared it, and maybeit's not the right word, I don't
want to compare it, but we, wetalked about the wheelhouse and
how it was very similar to yourbook.
Sara Quiriconi (12:26):
Yes, I'm sorry, go ahead very relatable to the
Wheelhouse because, in ways,we're storytelling real
experiences and ourinterpretation of them, and it
became a catharsis that I knowyour intentions were creating a
film.
My intention someday will be tocreate a film out of it, but
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the whole message of to sharethat story with others.
It, but the whole message of toshare that story with others,
and the interesting thing withLiving Cancer Free when I wrote
that I finished it in 2018.
Now my life from 2018 to nowhas tenfold 180, completely
different, which is awesome andfascinating.
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But in some way, there's alsothis piece of me.
I toil back and forth betweenwanting to rewrite, wanting to
create a second part, wanting totell a different narrative
because so much has changed, butat the same time, I also just
want to leave it and let it beand allow the story that has
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happened between then and now tojust to just unfold in
different ways, like noteverything has to be put into a
story.
I'm also recognizing great.
Drew Glick (13:44):
So talk about some of your acting.
What was, I don't know.
Maybe you don't recall, butwhat was the first acting job
you had?
It was a good or bad experiencemy first acting job.
Sara Quiriconi (13:56):
I was a barista in a college short film when I
was living in Boston at the timeand it was so fun.
It was just the whole dress upand I mean I love coffee, we
love coffee.
Drew Glick (14:12):
Life is better with coffee, right.
Sara Quiriconi (14:14):
Exactly, and I remember that being one of the
first, one of the first filmedpieces of work.
I don't think I ever saw thefinal product, but that was one
of the first things.
It was a very positiveexperience.
It was, I remember, justfeeling at home, but yet out of
place at the same time, becauseit was all different for me.
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I was so used to being incollege and that whole different
mindset, but it was so fun.
I remember being there and justthinking this is really cool.
Drew Glick (14:48):
Yeah, I know, I know that.
You know I've tried to givesome of my outlaw wisdom to
listeners out there that want topursue acting and entertainment
and film and whatever else thecase may be, and there's a lot
of horror stories out there.
And what advice would you giveto somebody that wants to get
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into the business?
What are the pitfalls, what tolook out for?
And just you know what words ofadvice can you give?
I guess that's what I'm asking,right.
Sara Quiriconi (15:20):
Is that what I'm ?
Drew Glick (15:21):
asking Sam.
Sara Quiriconi (15:22):
What am I asking right now?
I would say to anyone who'swanting to get into this
business know who you are thebest you can.
Learn as much as you can aboutyourself, because the better you
know yourself, the better thatyou can make wiser decisions and
choices.
There are, yes, can be, a lotof pitfalls, but when you know
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who you are, you will make morealigned choices for your career,
for the characters you take on,for how you show up to portray
the character, your auditions onset, what you bring your
professionalism.
Remember it's a business and tonot take everything personal to
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you.
You'll take some thingspersonal, but don't take
everything personal because, atthe end of the day, it is a
business and it comes down tobusiness decisions most of the
time.
And, yeah, it's, it's knowingyourself and to not take too
much personal.
If you love it, you're going tostick.
You're going to stick with itIf you love it.
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Right.
Drew Glick (16:27):
And I think I think the only thing I would add into
that statement, sarah, which Ithink a lot of people that get
into the industry tend tooverlook, is that you're selling
yourself right Like you don'thave anything tangible.
It's not like you're sellingcoffee or you're at Walmart
packing bags.
I think it's important andmaybe you don't agree, but
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hopefully you do that peopleremember that they're selling
themselves.
You do that people rememberthat they're selling themselves.
So this kind of like goes intothat gray area of like watching
what you do on social media,watching what you say, how you
say it, who you say it to.
Right absolutely so have youever encountered somebody like
that?
Have you ever come acrosssomebody that doesn't or refuses
to understand that they are thecommodity?
Sara Quiriconi (17:11):
of course I.
For a while and I still have itactive.
I'm leading a business ofactors workshop and the first
thing we go into is you're theCEO of your business, you are
the product, you're also the PRdepartment, you're also the
advertising department, you'realso the R and D.
You're all of those hats puttogether, but first and foremost
, you, the actor, you are theproduct.
(17:32):
And what is going to make acasting director, a director, a
producer turn their head to sayI want that product from the
shelf, not all the 5,000 othersthat are out there doing
submissions?
Yeah, but how do you handlerejection, which that happens a
lot, right?
(17:53):
Yeah, it goes trying for partsand never getting it, and they
keep trying to keep trying getbeing rejected now well, there's
two parts of it there.
I mean, I grew up in thecreative field, as an art
director early on, and in thearts one of the best things I
learned was rejection you will,you, you know it's creative
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redirection.
And I also learned to takeconstructive criticism, because
some criticism are just peoplebecause we can swear on here,
they're people being assholesand other criticism are people
genuinely giving feedback thatmaybe turn an ear towards.
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So know who is giving thefeedback and is it critical or
is it constructive.
And the other part of it isletting go of the expectation
for the outcome.
If you submit an audition forsomething and you expect to get
it, you are immediately settingyourself up to fail, meaning
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you're setting such a highexpectation that is pretty
unrealistic and I'm all forhaving limitless beliefs.
Drew Glick (19:06):
But at the same time , letting go of the expectation
will create more joy in themoment of the actual art and
craft right, right, and I mean II remember and I don't know,
sarah, I don't know if you evercame across this interview, but
I remember I watched aninterview with jennifer aniston
one time and she might I can'tremember the exact number of
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auditions, but I know it musthave been like a thousand plus
until she got a breakout role.
Right.
Doesn't mean that she didn't doother work.
I mean she starred inleprechaun, okay, I mean that
most people would be like oh,you're not.
You're never gonna go nowhere.
You're not fucking.
Yeah, I mean, it was that movie, whatever you know.
I mean, and just like you know,courtney cox got her started
massive masses of the universewith, with dove lundgren, right?
(19:50):
So in words, I think what I'mgetting is like everybody got to
start somewhere, but again,with, like your comment, it's
got to be realistic because atthe end of the day and I don't
know how many people have everheard this, but only 1% of
people that go into the industrywill ever succeed, right.
But again, I think success isdetermined by your own, your own
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, you know.
I think people determine theirown success, right.
So what is this?
What level of success makessomebody happy?
Is what I'm getting at, right,like I could be happy and
successful selling one copy ofmy book?
Somebody else may say, hey, Igot to sell 10,000 copies before
I feel like I'm successful,right?
Yeah, I mean, do you feel thatway?
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Like you know?
I mean, I guess, sarah, whatI'm asking you is like when you
get I hate to use the wordrejected, but when you get
rejected from an audition, itdoesn't crush you, right?
Like you're not like ready tothrow in the towel and go into
another career, right?
You just move on and you knowyou just take it with a grain of
salt and you're waiting for thenext opportunity, right?
Sara Quiriconi (20:54):
Yes, and I'll take time as well and look at
some of my auditions.
I see the ones that book meroles and then I'll see some
that I will take a reflectionmoment and look through some of
them and I can tell what'sworking and what's not, where
it's falling flat.
And then that's where I alsolean on coaches and I have
support.
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Fortunately, I'm in classes, Ihave acting coaches and I can
say you know, here's what I'mworking on.
Do you see where I can improveor what can we work on today?
Because there's also a learningelement that never ends.
No matter what path you're on,there's always you know it's one
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of my tattoos in Italian,ancora in paro and always
learning, and that beginner'smind approach can make
everything awe-inspiring andincredible.
And at the same time thenyou're in a far more playful
mood, as opposed to going in andlike, okay, I have to get this
out, because people can smelldesperation.
They can smell when you aredesperate to get something or
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you're afraid.
They will smell that in theaudition unless it's a horror
film and you need to look afraidit's not going to come across
good yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean, I remember I told Sam a story
about a young guy I mentoredback in the day.
Drew Glick (22:15):
He wanted to break into stunts and you know, he
finally did it and he and hebecame really successful.
And he and his mother told meone time hey, drew, thank you
everything, thank you foreverything you've done for my
son.
I said, look, I didn't donothing for your son.
All I did was give him the onething he was missing, which is
confidence.
And I think people that go intothe industry, like like you
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said, sarah, have to first getto that, that place in their own
head, in their own body, wherethey're comfortable in their own
skin.
And because, if, if, they can'tgo into an audition, you know,
with that vibe and like you said, people are going to feel it,
the casting director is going tofeel it and once they smell
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weakness, that's it.
Sara Quiriconi (23:01):
They don't want you Absolutely.
Drew Glick (23:04):
You know it's survival of the fittest out
there in Hollywood.
They don't call Hollywoodcutthroat for nothing, right,
sarah?
Sara Quiriconi (23:11):
It's 100% and it's who's who's gonna stick
around.
You know you hang around thebarbershop long enough, you're
gonna get a haircut and he wasdenzel who said that.
But oh, you can't just pack upshop, because year one you
didn't get your sad card and,you know, land in a role next to
brad pitt.
It's just not the way it canvery rarely.
Drew Glick (23:35):
But we both know, Sarah, that it's not wise to get
into SAG day one of your career.
We know that's a bad choice,right.
Sara Quiriconi (23:42):
Absolutely, yes, absolutely.
We've had that conversationbefore.
Drew Glick (23:47):
Sam, just asked you why.
Let's hear from yourperspective, sarah.
Sara Quiriconi (23:51):
Yes.
So when you are, when you're asag, you then can no longer take
part in any other non-unionprojects.
What that does is it puts youin a very high level playing
field that if you have zerocredits, it is also going to be
10 times more challenging toever earn any credits to your
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name.
Therefore, can you take thetime to build the craft, to
build some of the credits withshorts, with student films, with
creating some of your own filmsor one of your friends that you
want to star in so you actuallyget some set time because you
have zero set time?
It's very challenging toconvince a producer who's
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spending 60 million dollarsbudgeted feature to then put an
unknown day player, which issomebody who will do one day's
work on a feature and trust thatthey're actually going to know
what they're going to do,without ogling at stars or be
stuck at crafties or just nevershow up on time.
They're not going to have muchfaith in you.
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But if you have a proof of thework you've done, you've then
proven that you are capable,professional, will show up, that
you actually know what you'redoing and you're going to
remember your lines and show upand do your job for the day.
It's like you wouldn't walkinto Goldman Sachs and ask to be
their lead trader.
You need to work your way up.
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Same thing in acting.
Drew Glick (25:20):
And this brings me back to a conversation I had
with you, Sam, earlier today.
I talked about tenure, right?
So I made a comment I'm goingto get my tenure in a year, Sam,
because it's 10 years inCalifornia, right?
I'm going to get my tenure in ayear, Sam, because it's 10
years in California, right?
So I think that what I, myadvice to people out there would
be that put your time in.
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You know, don't, don't be so,don't be so eager to get to the
top of the mountain right away,because you're just going to
fall back down.
But do you agree with thatstatement, Sarah?
Do you think that's?
Sara Quiriconi (25:49):
important.
Drew Glick (25:50):
You do.
Sara Quiriconi (25:52):
Absolutely, because then you're working your
way into and you also buildconfidence in yourself.
When you have confidence inyourself, you will.
It goes back to the energy youwill show.
You will showcase that energyand it's that energy that is
magnetic on camera, with otheractors, with all the other crew
that's on set.
That makes the biggestdifference.
Drew Glick (26:14):
Right, yeah, exactly .
You took the words right out ofmy mouth, Sarah.
Sara Quiriconi (26:17):
So it limits you ahead of time, but if you
already have a background, thenit'll give you wings afterwards.
Exactly, yes, exactly.
Drew Glick (26:25):
Yeah.
So all right, sarah, tell meabout.
Tell me about Call of Duty.
I want to know about Call ofDuty.
What did you do on Call of Dutyagain?
Sara Quiriconi (26:36):
I was on the poster cover as Dr Gray.
Drew Glick (26:40):
Which one was it again, the six Black Ops, six.
Sara Quiriconi (26:44):
Yes, exactly, black Ops six.
Drew Glick (26:48):
And you and you, and I don't want to, I don't want
to use the word model, but youmodeled for that one.
Sara Quiriconi (26:53):
Is that what that was?
Yes, technically, I showed upon the day of production.
We didn't know what it was.
It was more so untitled, theyshowcase the storyboards, and
then I don't know a whole lotabout video games, but I I know
Call of Duty, and seeing whatthey were doing, I was like, wow
, this is, this is the real deal, and it was a day of learning
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both proper weaponry tactics andthen also just shooting all day
different.
There there are all photos thatthey later then framed into, I
think, a few different promoslike POP posters and such.
So I was Dr Samantha gray forthat.
Drew Glick (27:37):
Hmm, hmm.
Now when you say shooting, youweren't, it wasn't live fire,
was it, was it blank, so was itjust like empty barrels?
Sara Quiriconi (27:44):
No empty.
Yeah, everything was fullyempty.
Everything was checked,everything was incredibly
professional.
Drew Glick (27:49):
Yes, that's good.
You had a good problem, master,on that one.
So all right, look.
So now we got to bring itforward.
We got to talk some shit rightnow, and we got to talk some
shit about me oh fun.
So you and I have known eachother what?
Four or five years?
No, then yes yes okay, so sotell the people how you met me,
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was you know, and, and what yourfirst impressions of me were
you are well, I've now come toknow you as the sweetest asshole
you are by the way, nobody outthere can use that shit all
right, everybody's using itpeople gonna get sued, fuck them
it's no knowledge.
Now you are a fighter wait, holdon you see how she had to think
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about that.
She kind of paused.
Sara Quiriconi (28:43):
I was still going to say the sweetest
asshole.
I was going to say the sweetestasshole, again I.
You are a fighter on theoutside, a heart on the inside,
with a wise mind that wants toshare that wisdom to whoever has
open ears to hear it.
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There's not a lot of peoplehave open ears let's do good.
Come on spill the beans.
So now, sarah, how do we meetthough?
Drew Glick (29:14):
well, well, I can't remember how do we meet, though.
Well, I can't remember how didwe meet.
What was it that?
Was it an ad or a posting, orsomething like that?
Sara Quiriconi (29:22):
Yes, it was.
What was was Mandy.
That is now, I think, owned byIMDb and it was a listing for
this character.
Can we name names of characters?
Drew Glick (29:32):
Yes, go for it.
Sara Quiriconi (29:34):
Vanessa, vanessa , it was.
I remember I submitted to it.
Jeez, it was so long ago.
I was actually living in Miamiat the time and it was this a
headshot photo.
I was in a denim jacket, prettybut still a little roughed up,
and we got, I believe, in thesubmission notes I wrote how I
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appreciated that this was basedon a true story of redemption,
resilience, and how I resonatedwith the story and message
similar to my book.
And then from there we did acouple reads, some rehearsals at
the time, but that's initiallyhow it started.
It was through that submissionright.
Drew Glick (30:19):
Yeah, I mean we the project got stalled.
I'm not trying to, I'm nottrying to blame, I'm not trying
to point fingers and put blame,you know, I mean, well, we got
to say that, we got to say it,sam.
We got to say it got stalledbecause of what?
Sarah covet right I, I thoughtyou were just being lazy.
Yeah, that's that.
Everybody blames, cover foreverything.
Sara Quiriconi (30:40):
My call breaks down tomorrow.
I'm blaming covet yeah, that orthe full moon.
Drew Glick (30:44):
One of the two so now, recently, what a month,
month and a half ago, whateverwe started, you started training
with stunts, with for the, thesecond episode of the limited
series that you referencedbriefly, and having the
experience with the call of dutyand going to that was it.
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I guess.
What I want to ask you was iteasier of a transition?
Was it easier to come into thatlike kicking and punching and
falling, or was it still allkind of new to you?
Were you still kind of likelearning the body mechanics?
Because I know, I know you sentme some pretty, some pretty
belligerent text messages.
You were like drew thismotherfucker, you hurt me, you
know, I mean, I'm sore as hell,right, you remember that?
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I remember I still got him asblackmail did I receive
workman's comp for that?
I forget that that's not, that'sno longer so.
Talk a little bit about that,so you know, and then we'll, and
then we'll go and we'll talkabout why you're doing those
stunts.
Sara Quiriconi (31:46):
But let's start with the, with the basics first
I never sent those text messagesfor the record, but I do recall
you sending me text messagessaying I'm so sore from when you
drop kicked me.
Drew Glick (32:01):
No, jokes aside it was yeah, see, I still have my
front teeth in.
They haven't finished the plateyet.
Sara Quiriconi (32:07):
You'll get implants, it'll be fine.
Drew Glick (32:09):
You're paying for that right.
Sara Quiriconi (32:11):
No, it was under your insurance.
Drew Glick (32:14):
Yeah right, what insurance?
Kidding, kidding.
Sara Quiriconi (32:18):
They don't cover anything anyway, the.
So the fight training itselfand the stunt training it was.
It's very different, it's veryhand-to-hand combat.
Combat is very different fromweaponry and handling, but it's
also fascinating from aself-defense perspective and how
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important movement is withinthe body, what energy you give
off, what, and then you takethat and you, you learn
technique and then transition itinto who the character is.
And so Vanessa being, withoutsharing too much, she's a
scrappy and little fighter andshe's small and can be delicate
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but also can be fierce, and thatneeds to come across in the
fighting style.
So you start to learn theproper constructs but then morph
that into who this character isand that that's the next level
and layer for where we are withthe trainings and the stunt
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training you know, and this maythis may sound weird, but I'm
really looking forward to theday that sarah cracks me over
the head with a breakaway bottle.
Drew Glick (33:36):
That's how the fight starts.
That's good.
No, not not the balls.
We're not going there yet.
But well, she's small.
Sara Quiriconi (33:41):
Yeah, yeah, but I have an arm yeah, I'm looking
forward to that.
Drew Glick (33:46):
I think that's going to be a really interesting, you
know, because because hercharacter is an instigator and
you know not to bring you backto day one, sarah, but you know
you're going to be a baristathis time.
So you know, sadly, life worksin circles, you know.
Sara Quiriconi (34:04):
I'm a bartender.
Drew Glick (34:10):
So now, now we haven't really talked about your
book let's talk about that book, I mean, in more detail.
Okay, I know you said the name.
Let's, let's put it all outthere, let's put the cards on
the table, and let's let's,let's know, let's find out who
Sarah really is table and let's,let's, let's know, let's find
out who sarah really is.
Sara Quiriconi (34:26):
Living cancer free is the title of the book,
and what I allude to with thatis there are many different
cancers that one can come toterms with in their life.
It's not just a physical cancer, but it's also the thoughts
that we tell ourselves, theexercise or the lack of exercise
and movement, the foods that weeat, the relationships that we
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stay in too long, the jobs thatsuck the life out of us all of
those things that can be acancer, that can have death
knocking at our door long beforewe actually ever take our last
breath.
And can we be self actualizedto realize that we need to make
those changes and have thecourage to do so?
Because you can be aware thatsomething needs to change.
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But then are you going to havethe courage to actually make
that happen and can you overcomethose cancers?
That's what I talk aboutthrough in my book and I've been
through within the book.
It shares my theory and thesisaround cancers within the body,
the life, the mind, spirituality, the environment, but then also
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my own life experiences throughthem.
So it's yes, it's relationships, yes, it's career changes, it's
eating disorders, it'salcoholism.
It is real life cancer.
It is later moving I didn't getthere yet in the book, but
finding all these differenttwists and turns, you know, in
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acting and in storytellingthey're different acts they're,
and in storytelling they'redifferent acts, they're
different beats, they'redifferent notes, and that's what
a lot of my life has been,these little pivots, and so I
share and express all of that inthis book, along the way and
the lessons that I take, hmm,hmm, I want to ask you a
personal question, sarah.
Drew Glick (36:20):
Maybe I know like when I I went through the
struggles, trials andtribulations, I had a very small
, if any, support network, andI'm just curious to know you
(36:43):
think, if I remember correctly,you had a pretty vast support
network when you went throughall this and you were trying to
overcome this, right?
So, in other words, I thinklike what I'm trying to get at
is like you weren't alone inyour struggles, right, like you
didn't have to face thesechallenges every day on your own
and try to figure it out.
Sara Quiriconi (37:02):
You know better or worse um, in some ways yes
and in some ways no.
I allowed in what I allowed inand I also I, I'm sorry.
Drew Glick (37:16):
I said I mean the road trip.
I think what I'm.
What I'm asking is uh, I knowwe all go into our own head and
we try to work our work it outto the best of our ability
externally.
You know and I'm getting toopersonal you can tell me to shut
up and kick rocks, right, butdid you have family, siblings?
You know anybody that really, Iguess, continue to motivate you
(37:42):
that, hey, you'll get throughit, you can do it that were
there for you when you neededthem.
Sara Quiriconi (37:47):
Well, at different points in my life,
that's where I was getting to.
So you can shut up and kickrocks.
You can shut up and kick rocksbecause I was getting there.
I'm a storyteller, lady B.
This is free air time.
I I should have been nauseous.
I Italian talk here.
(38:09):
When I was going through cancer,I had a very small reach of
support, but it was very deep.
So it was my parents, mybrother and then my at the time
boyfriend.
It was very deep.
So it was my parents, mybrother and then my at the time
boyfriend.
That was really it and perhapsit's.
I was a little.
Perhaps at that time I washoping that I would have more,
(38:33):
but it was what I had and it wasdeep and it was what the
universe wanted to give me atthat time.
Going through eating disorderalcohol.
A lot of the time it was deepand it was what the universe
wanted to give me at that time.
Going through eating disorderalcohol.
A lot of the time it was bymyself because I closed myself
off to a lot of others.
And it wasn't until I was in myit was like mid-20s that I
(38:57):
really started to open up andstart to accept in some of the
assistance and light andguidance that, oh, there's
another way I could do thisthing called life.
And that's where I started tothen tap into my relationship at
the time, which was my firstmarriage and yoga community.
I started getting really intoyoga at that time to connect
(39:18):
with myself, which allowed me toconnect with others, and that
started to open up moreconnections and allow for more
support.
But from there I've alsonoticed too how, over the years,
groups of friends change, andthat's OK too.
That's OK too.
Drew Glick (39:40):
So what do you want to nowadays?
What's going on in your life?
Sara Quiriconi (39:46):
I am Well looking forward to the next
stunt training when I can crackthat bottle over your head.
Drew Glick (39:52):
Let's see, the first time we do it, I do it with a
water bottle.
I'm not putting a bottle inyour hand the first time.
I'm sorry, sure, remember, Ionly got one good eye, so you, I
can't lose the other eyeanymore.
Sara Quiriconi (40:05):
So just look the other way, it'll be fine.
I'm currently going to be apart of two additional indie
films that I've recently booked.
I am working on two short films, two features, a screenplay
myself, and I mean there'salways a couple projects that
(40:31):
I'm also simultaneously workingon producing.
There's a lot of differentballs being juggled, but always
the intention to storytell andinspire others to live their
best life, and mainly throughacting, followed by writing and
producing sounds good.
Drew Glick (40:50):
This is why I call her the mayor.
Yeah, girl, never sits.
Still, you can't, you know,always in a meeting, always in a
meeting.
Gotta tighten those reins alittle bit, you know or a
podcast interview exactly so,sarah, is there anything else
you'd like to put out there?
Sara Quiriconi (41:14):
if there's something calling you to a life
that you can become in tune with, something from your intuition
is calling to you.
Do not ever silence that.
Listen greater and follow it,because it's not going to go
away.
It will just be there for therest of your life and it is your
life, so do not settle and liveit very good voice exactly
(41:40):
exactly okay, sarah.
Drew Glick (41:43):
Well, it was great having you and we really
appreciate your time and we willkeep tabs on you and hopefully
see you in the next bigblockbuster please do, please do
and we'll see you soon for thestunts.
Sara Quiriconi (41:58):
Where can people ?
Drew Glick (41:58):
get your book.
Sara Quiriconi (42:01):
Every bit of resource.
It's on Amazon.
It is Seriously.
I went to go buy toothpicksearlier.
I'm like Amazon, it's justeasier.
Why am I going to drive up toCVS?
You can find the book on Amazonin softcover, ebook and now
Audible.
You can also find all of myinformation on my website,
(42:22):
sarahkirikonicom.
Drew Glick (42:26):
Great great, and you have IMDb right If people want
to look you up.
Sara Quiriconi (42:31):
Absolutely.
I have that little fancy.
I forget what they call it thevanity, the vanity.
Drew Glick (42:37):
Oh, you got the vanity.
Oh, she's got the vanity I doyou got to be in the to get that
one man.
Sara Quiriconi (42:45):
I know my nose is up there, trust me girl.
Drew Glick (42:49):
No joke, don't sleep on, sarah, man.
Well, it was great talking toyou, sarah.
Look forward to seeing youagain.
Yes, we really appreciate yourtime.
We really appreciate your time.
We really appreciate your time.
Sara Quiriconi (43:04):
Yeah.
Drew Glick (43:05):
And that's about it.
Sara Quiriconi (43:07):
Thank you both Appreciate it.
Glad to share and inspireothers to the message.
Thank you, sarah.
Thank you, sarah, nice talkingto you.
Drew Glick (43:18):
Bye-bye, Sarah.
Sara Quiriconi (43:19):
Okay, bye.
Bye, bye-bye, sarah.
Okay, bye, bye.
Yeah, still on.
No, she's off.
Drew Glick (43:28):
What happened?
You didn't like it.
No, it was good.
I mean, the beginning was alittle stutter-stepping, but we
got into it yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did 45 minutes, no, a littleunder 40.
40 minutes excellent, so youdon't have to cut too much yeah,
yeah, yeah it's good.
I mean you think we coveredpretty much what we covered last
time.
Sara Quiriconi (43:46):
She was more relaxed this time too.
Drew Glick (43:48):
Oh really, yeah it was better than we did another
one.
Sara Quiriconi (43:51):
See, everything happens for a fucking reason a
lot clearer and more subtleenough room to talk and not
worry about time and whatever,because at the beginning it's
like we wanted eight minutes,where now you can have the whole
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, peoplelike it like it.
They know actors gonna listento it.
Young is yeah yeah, depends onwhat you care about.
(44:13):
You know the interview withyeah yeah, yeah yeah, which is
good.
Yeah, no, no, that's awesome.
She was very relaxed, that'sgood.
Drew Glick (44:23):
I'm glad you thought so.
Queer or con?
It only took me 10 times tofucking figure out how to say
the motherfucker.
You keep saying queer or con.
That's a guy, that's becausethat's.
I mean.
Look, that's how I said it forfive fucking years.
I mean I'm like Sarah, what thefuck you didn't fucking, why
can't I end the motherfuckerthough.
Oh, here we go.
Okay, so now we got to bring itforward.
(44:44):
We got to talk some shit rightnow and we got to talk some shit
about me.
Tell the people how you met meand what your first impressions
of me were.
Sara Quiriconi (44:52):
You are.
Drew Glick (44:54):
Wait, hold on.
Do you see how she had to thinkabout that?
(45:25):
you've been listening to outlawwisdom.
Sara Quiriconi (45:27):
New episodes drop every week until next time,
no retreat, no surrender staystrong.
Drew Glick (45:33):
Spread the word.
The outlaws are here to stay.
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