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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so the housing
challenge it feels like it's
just constantly there, doesn'tit?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Especially when you
think about the more vulnerable
populations and you know theusual ways of tackling it.
They often seem like well, likethey're falling short somehow.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Exactly like putting
a Band-Aid on a much bigger
issue.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Right, but what if
there is a different way,
something you know innovative,that helps with housing and is
actually a smart financialstrategy?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, that's pretty
much what we're diving into
today.
Ah yeah, this deep dive isreally about exploring a model
that connects social impact withwell real financial opportunity
.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We're zeroing in on
special needs housing and a
pretty unique way to think aboutpassive rental income.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Got it.
So our mission here is to kindof unpack the key ideas, mainly
looking at some recent newsinvolving Robert Flowers and
this big new affordable housingcommunity down in New Haven.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
We want to show you
how these kinds of projects are
doing more than just housingpeople.
They're really transforminglives, building inclusivity and,
interestingly, creating theseopportunities.
Maybe you haven't consideredconsidered.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So yeah, let's start
with that big news.
You mentioned the NHPFoundation.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yes, exactly, they're
a nonprofit right Focused on
affordable housing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Preservation and
creation.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And they've just
announced this $30 million
project, curtis Cofield IIEstates in New Haven, and the
buzz around it is that it couldactually transform lives.
Pretty big claim.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It is, but it looks
like a really solid blueprint.
It shows how you can takespecial needs housing you know,
housing that's specificallydesigned and supported for folks
with disabilities or differentcare needs and combine it with
these passive income models.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
To tackle the housing
shortage?
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's a way to address
these really complex housing
issues with more holistic,long-term thinking.
It feels like a real stepforward.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And the impact.
It sounds pretty wide ranging.
It's not just, you know, fourwalls and a roof.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
They've apparently
designed it very carefully for
different kinds of families.
We're talking what?
Over 100 affordable units.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That's right over 100
units, each one representing
stability for someone.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And the location
seems important too.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Absolutely critical
Its location being close to
essential services.
I mean that makes accessingsupport and just daily life so
much easier for residents.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Right Convenience is
key.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And they're thinking
long-term too, with
sustainability, eco-friendlybuilding methods, energy
efficiency.
It's designed to be wellsustainable environmentally and
financially.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That focus on design
and services.
It really highlights somethingbigger, doesn't it?
This push for genuineinclusivity.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Especially with
special needs housing.
There's definitely a growingfocus in society on making sure
everyone, including people withdisabilities, has, you know,
good, dignified housing options.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Absolutely, and this
Curtis Coalfield project it
seems to directly reflect thatcommitment.
It's really an effort toprovide housing that actively
helps people live independentlyand be part of the community.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
And you can see that
in the actual design features.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, apparently so.
Things like wheelchairaccessibility throughout the
community.
It's not just tacked on, it'sbuilt in from the start.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Foundational.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Exactly, and beyond
just the physical setup, there
are specific services, amenities, programs aimed at diverse
needs, things designedspecifically to encourage social
interaction and, you know,inclusion.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So it really goes
beyond just shelter.
It's about building a realcommunity feel.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That's the goal.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
OK, so we see the
social impact, the thoughtful
design, but a project like thisCurtis Caulfield II estates I
mean 30 million dollars, itdoesn't just materialize out of
thin air.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
How does something
like this actually happen?
Get off the ground.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, that's where
public-private partnerships
become so, so important.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Ah, okay, makes sense
.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, initiatives
this big, they almost always
rely on collaboration, differentgroups bringing their strengths
together.
You know, maybe the cityprovides land or tax breaks.
Well, the private sector bringsin capital and development
know-how.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So it's like a
synergy they pool their
resources.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Precisely, and that
means you know better funding
options, smarter use ofresources and, importantly, more
community input during theplanning stages.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That community
engagement piece feels vital.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It is, and these
partnerships, they also tend to
mean a longer-term commitment.
It's not just about building itand walking away.
It's about making sure theproject stays sustainable and
effective for years to come.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Turning it into a
lasting community asset.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Okay, so we've got
the social good, the community
focus, the inclusivity, butthere's another angle here
that's really compelling thefinancial side.
You mentioned passive incomeearlier, so investing in
projects like this isn't justgood for residents.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Not at all.
It can be incredibly beneficialfor investors looking for
passive rental income streams.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right, this is that
profit with purpose idea you
hear about sometimes.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It really is the
perfect example A reliable
income source that also directlycontributes to something
positive in society.
It's a powerful combination.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
What about for an
investor, though?
Sometimes you hear concernsabout special needs housing
maybe being, I don't know, morecomplicated, or maybe the
returns aren't as high.
Does this model address that?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's a really good
point because those are common
assumptions.
But what this approach showsespecially when you look at
firms like Flowers andAssociates they demonstrate you
can get that steady incomewithout the usual day-to-day
landlord headaches.
Plus, there can be tax benefitstied to these kinds of real
estate investments and itcreates pathways to grow your
(05:41):
investment portfolio in ameaningful way.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, so let's talk
about Robert Flowers and Flowers
and Associates.
Then you mentioned them.
They're specialists in this.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yes, very much so.
Award-winning actually, withover 15 years focused
specifically on special needshousing.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And their model, this
profit with purpose thing, how
does it work practically?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, their approach
is pretty unique.
They essentially help landlordsgenerate passive income by
connecting them with nonprofits.
These nonprofits need housingfor the adults with disabilities
they serve.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Ah, I see so Flowers
and Associates acts like a
bridge.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Exactly they find
suitable properties, make sure
they meet all the necessaryaccessibility and support
standards, and then they leasethese properties to the
nonprofits.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Okay, so the
landlord's tenant is the
nonprofit itself.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
these properties to
the nonprofits.
Okay, so the landlord's tenantis the nonprofit itself.
Right, a stable, establishednonprofit which means the
landlord gets a reliablelong-term lease payment, often
without ever having to deal withfinding individual residents
vetting them, managing turnovers, all that typical stuff that
removes a lot of the hasslefactor.
It really does.
Flowers and Associates,property rentals specializing in
(06:46):
special needs housing.
They've really refined thismodel.
They're a clear leader inmaking this work.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It really shows how
you can align financial goals
with well doing significant good.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's a fantastic
blueprint for impact investing.
Truly.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So, wrapping this up
then, what's the big takeaway
from our deep dive today?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, I think it
really shows that these huge
societal challenges likeaffordable housing, like
inclusivity yeah, they can betackled with creative thinking.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Right Through these
models that blend things
together.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, blending,
social impact, smart investing
and these crucial collaborativepartnerships.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It creates a
situation where ideally everyone
benefits, a real win-win.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And thinking bigger
picture.
It kind of makes you reconsiderinvesting, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It does.
It prompts that question whatif your investments didn't just
grow your wealth but activelyhelped build stronger, better
communities?
Embracing these profit withpurpose models could really
shift how we think abouttraditional investment.
It opens doors to financialsecurity and real positive
social change.
These profit with purposemodels could really shift how we
think about traditionalinvestment.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It opens doors to
financial security and real
positive social change,something to definitely mull
over Absolutely and for anyonelistening who wants to, you know
, dig deeper into this specificmodel, we should definitely
mention Robert Flower's bookagain.
It's called the Joy of HelpingOthers Creating Passive Income
Through Special Needs Housing.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right, that's a great
resource.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It gives a really
comprehensive look at how this
all works, and it's availablenow on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And for ongoing
insights.
His podcast is worth checkingout too the Passive Impact
Podcast.
You get more strategies, realstories from people doing this
work.
It's a good listen.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Excellent suggestions
.
Lots to think about there.