Pokémon Anime Special – “Beanie Babies Go” | With Guest: Mark - Pika Pals: A Pokémon Anime Rewatch Podcast

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Hey, what's going on guys? You are listening to the Peak
Powers Podcast. I'm your host Pokémon Trainer
Jed, and I Thank you for tuning in.
Now, you probably already know by now, but the Pika Pals
podcast is where I am on a mission to re watch, recap, and
laugh my way through every episode of the original Pokémon

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anime series. But along the way, I'm going to
have special guests on the show that may include family members,
friends, or members of the Pokémon universe.
And that's what today's episode is.
It's a special guest episode, and it's a special guest episode
with my good friend Mark. We get to talk about all things
Pokémon. We get to talk about what it was

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like working in a video game store during the launch of some
of the Pokémon games. We talk about Psyduck and why
Mark relates to that Pokémon so much, and we get to play the
Pick a Poker Ball challenge. So a nice episode today.
I hope you enjoy it, and I thankyou Mark for being a guest on
the show. I hope that you can return in

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It means a lot that friends and family have been willing to be
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I actually already have some episodes recorded and ready to
go, so looking forward to getting them out in future.
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for Mind in Somerset. So I want to use the positivity
of the Pokémon fandom to raise some money for a good cause, and
I've chosen my local mental health charity, Mind in
Somerset. There's more details in the
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support. So check out the links in the
episode description to find out more about my Pika Powers Unite
fundraiser. But let's get to today's
episode. I sit down with my friend Mark
and we chat about all things Pokémon.
So turn that hat backwards, grabyour poker balls, and get ready
for the Pika Powers podcast. OK, we're back on the Pika

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Powers podcast with another special guest episode.
I've been looking forward to doing this one, and my guest
today is my good friend Mark. Hello is this where I start
reading from the script? Yeah, if you just start reading
from the top of the page there. OK, So Mark, how, how do we know
each other? We've we've known each other for
a while now. And, and to be fair, actually we

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have podcast history. Yes, we bonded over our mutual
love. Yeah.
So we, we worked together. We that was where we first met.
And we've also podcasted together, content created
together, and just basically lived and friendship and natural

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life. Yeah, together.
It sounds very wholesome. And also as well, I will dig out
the picture in particular for this one because UN unbeknownst
at the time, and you know, funnyhow life works out in that sort
of way. And a few years ago, we went to
a Comic Con event together dressed as Ash Ketchum and

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Pikachu. Yeah, and if you you won't know
this, but there's a bit of a height difference between the
two of us, and you'd have to guess which one of us was which
is definitely what you not what you would expect.
And yeah, so I was a giant Pokémon.
I was a giant Pikachu. And not only was that apparently
hilarious, but it actually offended a few people.

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Yeah, it did. That was We still talk about
that story. Now what?
What was it you had? Was it just like a?
Just a beer like a. Beverage.
Just a standard British lager. Yeah, And you were dressed in
your Pikachu outfit. Yeah, I was dressed as Ash
Ketchum. And some people, they were not
happy about that. They thought that we were
disrespecting. Yeah, what Pokémon would would

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do. We didn't think that they'd take
it that seriously, but they did.I got chewed out by by a
stranger that and and the chewing out lasted a good not
only distance in time as in 5 minutes, but also a good
distance through the Comic Con with the guy following me giving
me all the reasons why Pikachu would not drink a beer.
Which, to be fair, do we? Do we know that Pikachu wouldn't

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drink a beer? Because who's to say that he
wouldn't? I know within the realms of
maybe the Pokémon universe, likethey met, they're probably not
going to do an episode where he gets wasted.
But I at the same time we don't know for sure.
That I think if I'd actually paid attention to what this guy
was telling me, I do think he had a very reasoned argument as

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to why Pikachu didn't wouldn't drink a beer.
So maybe that's the guy who asked That's the question.
Maybe he's intolerant to something.
Maybe they like. What do they have in beer?
Well, it's the liquid. Maybe it just doesn't interact
with the electric? Maybe.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Yeah, we should have thought, shouldn't we?
Yeah, in in hindsight, I don't even know.
I would have gone with Charmander, but then that also

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probably would have had consequences with the water and
beer and the fire and. What Pokémon would be acceptable
to drink a beer? That's a question for the
listeners as well as on the spotFrom the from like the original
sort of line up. The only answer I've got, the
only I've got 2 answers. One is science based and that's

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magic art because he he kind of looks like he's drunk a lot and
just passed out on the floor andjust flopping around.
Yeah. That could be the reason why he
does that anyway. And and then the other one would
be Mr. Mime, just because obvious for obvious reasons,
that Mister Mime just is clearlya drunk.
That would explain a lot. That would explain a lot.
But no, I'd I'll dig out that photo and I'll pop it on social

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media of our Pokémon cosplay as one of my favorite cosplays that
we did. Actually, we've dressed up a few
times as a as a, as a pair. We've done Rick and Morty as
well. Or evil Rick and Morty.
Evil Rick and Morty. And so that's not related to
Pokémon, but yeah, yeah, we've done, we've done that as well.
We're actually, we did bump intolike a rival Ash, and he had a

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trauma. He had a trauma, yeah.
It was like another cosplay. Yeah.
Like the Shelbyville version? Yeah, I'm not too sure the
Charmander was as into it as theAsh was, but yeah, it was it was
it was a good little like cosplay meet ups, mini cosplay
meet up. And also mark what happened to
your Pikachu costume? You want to say the sad ending?
Well, yeah, I used to work in a place that would do charity days

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where everyone would dress up for, for the charity days.
And I wasn't backwards in comingforwards about the fact that I
had this. I should probably say it's more
of a onesie. It was more of a onesie than an
outfit. And I did buy it very cheap on
Amazon, which is part of the charm.
They did. It did look, it had its, its
charms, put it that way. And I said I was going to wear

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it into work for this charity day, but I was very being very
shrewd about it. And I took it in a bag to make
sure that I didn't end up the only person dressed up.
And there's just one person walking around in, in a Pikachu
outfit, which I, again, in hindsight, I probably should
have done because it would be hilarious.
But I, I did that went in, no one was dressed up.
So I just left it in the changing room and then just left

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it. I must have gone home and left
in the changing room, never to be seen again.
And like the next time I I had the fancy to to wear the Pokémon
outfit, I I've searched high andlow and I've definitely left it
in this changer room and I'm fuming.
Pikachu found in Lost and found or Pikachu left in Lost and
found? Do you find something in lost

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and found or do you lose something in Lost and found?
I think you find something. There you go.
There's let's go. That's a lot of philosophy for
you. I lost my I lost my heart in the
lost and found. A new album by Gary.
Oh wait no, I have to edit that.I meant just edit the new album

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by Gary Barlow. Which?
Is. Definitely what I said the first
time. OK, Mark.
So my first question to my guests on the show is who's your
favorite Pokémon and why? My favorite Pokémon is Psyduck
and this is this doesn't work particularly well on an audio

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only podcast, but well, it mightdo depending on how badly this
attacks the microphone. But we actually sat near.
I don't know, I guess he's probably life sized Psyduck.
I reckon that's probably, yeah. That I've made made as a random
purchase on on eBay, but he comes with the perks.
And I apologize if this assaultsyour ears, but it has the perks
of doing this that's doing everyone one of them is is

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really going to attack you. Yeah, that that noise you can
hear is him vibrating. And this is the last one.
That is incredible, but also as well, I'm not sure if that last
noise, I don't know if Psyduck'sever made that noise.

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It has A tag, it says it's made by Tiger.
It doesn't see a Pokémon Logan but Tiger are pretty legit.
Yeah. But yeah, they somebody did
decide to put that in and they, you know, when you've got like
those pool cord toys, there's always one that goes on too long
that you just wish they didn't choose.
And that's the one. That's the one.
Especially as he's got this horrible violent vibration to
him and that that just like you would have, if you can hear that

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on the podcast, you would have heard that just go on for way
too long. And everyone I show, they think
the first two are so immensely cute and then the third one is
an absolute assault. The third one's a bit like the
Wookiee Hole witch. Yeah, isn't it?
International listeners will appreciate that reference.
Yeah. As I've been recording the
episodes so far and to anyone who's listened up until now,

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there's a lot of localised references.
Wookie hole witch. I should try and get her on as a
guest actually, shouldn't I? What do you think her favorite
Pokémon is? Probably 1 of the like Ghastly
or Haunter or something like that that's.
A good answer, but the why is because, well, it's actually
quite random. I, I got given a free key ring

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when I used to work in a game shop when it would have been
silver or gold or silver and gold when that came out.
So that that shows my age that Iwas working in a game shop and
we had free gifts and one of them was a side uck.
It was a side uck key ring and we'll see in the shape of of

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side uck had a very strange feature to it that it had a
light inside it. It glue up red, but it only
worked if you hit it really hardon things.
So you had to hit this poor sideuck on on like a solid object to
make its feature work. And somehow I kind of gained
this affinity for side up because I felt so sorry for the
fact that people were just bashing this poor thing on on

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desks just to make it work. That's amazing.
That's just created like an, a nostalgic, A nostalgic memory.
I remember one of those and it was quite, it was a little hard
plastic and it was a meowed 1 and and you had to bang it and
then the inside lit up red but like for some reason you had to
really hit it. It just doesn't make any sense.
Like in normal. In normal everyday key ring life

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you would never hit it that hard.
No, and I'd like this. This key ring ended up looking
like a dog, a Tudor, because so many people wanted to see how it
activated. So I'm just cracking on the side
of everything all the time. And yeah, so.
Your introduction to Side Duck came in, was it?
It feels, it feels like almost like some kind of weird Pokémon
Stockholm syndrome there. Like I felt like, like, well, it
gained this affinity for my, my,he's not prisoner, but you know

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what I mean? Like my my captive Pokémon was
abused so bad that we kind of like developed this this joint
love for each other. Well, I assume he loves me.
But ironic as well, really, thatPsyduck in the anime series and
as a character in general withinthe Pokémon constantly suffers
from like headaches anyway, so that he would have definitely

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been suffering from headache there, Yeah, when suffering from
an ass ache, yeah. I loved Side Up in the Detective
Pikachu movie so much that I kind of don't really remember a

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lot else about the film apart from Side Up because he just as
soon as he came on I was like, that's it.
The movies made for me don't need to remember anything else.
We're definitely the picture that we'll take that I usually
use for the the podcast episode or I put on the socials and
stuff. We get a picture with the side
up. I really appreciate and then
genuinely when I say it, meanness that the the people

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that I've had on the podcast so far have had like a Pokémon
plush when I've gone round to record you're wearing some
Pikachu socks. Yeah, I, I had a mad rush panic
around the house before you arrive trying to find my grow
leaf T-shirt and I can't find itand I'm worried it's like maybe
in the gone the way of the Pikachu outfit.

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I lost and found. Yeah, but I really like that
T-shirt. So I've actually pretty got it
that I can't find it, it all tied up on shore.
But yeah, that I was ready to belike fully kitted out.
I just don't have any like trousers or anything.
Just. Socks.
If only. If only.
Well, actually hold on. I'm just thinking it's because
I've genuinely kind of been creating this as I go along and

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hopefully I can get to the stagewhere I can do some video with
like YouTube and and Twitch stuff, which I think you may be
the man to help me with. So you'll be the, you'll be the
guy to help me with that. And we do like a fancy dress
version. Yeah.
Bring out the Ash costume. We'll have to get a new Pikachu,
but. I I might go for a squirt or
this no well the the 1st. Should do a giant side up.

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Did I, I don't remember if I told you, but I'm pretty sure I
got a squirrel before I got a Pikachu and it was so bad that I
was embarrassed to wear it in the house trying it on and I
sent it back. It was like somehow it went past
so bad. It's good.
It went all the way back to thisis embarrassing.

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I was there's a there was a level which the Pikachu one's so
bad. It's good.
The the Squirtle 1 was like, oh,that got poor guy.
That's how that's the level I would have got to like, oh, is
is that guy all right? Yeah.
He thought it was a good idea towear that.
So I might find a good Squirtle one or a Charmander one.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I mean Pokémon
costumes not the easiest thing to dress up as because they're

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not really the the shape of a human.
No, Mr. Mime might work. You can dress as Mr. Mime, but
the trouble is I don't like Mr. Mime, so nobody does.
I might. I'm glad you said that.
Yeah, someone out there does. I kind of do.
This is a very quick Side Story when I was addicted to Pokémon

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Go back in the early 20s. Where they when did they come
out? It feels like it's.
Been 2016. Wow.
Yeah, I know that because I was listening to Bizarre Connection.
I was listening to Mark Hopus from Pink 182.
I was listening to his autobiography yesterday, and he
said that one of their comebacksbecame an amazing time, point in

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time because Pokémon Go made everyone leave the house so
people would go into more gigs. And that's how strange is that?
But yeah, so that was that was 2016.
But also we have a poker stop just outside outside the house.
And at one point, we don't know why, but a point in time in the
evening, Mr. Mimes would spawn like and I ended up filling my

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entire Pokémon storage with justMr. Mimes just to annoy people
because of how much they hate him.
And I was like. Brian and if he's right on your
doorstep. Yeah, then why not?
I was hoping at some point to like, make some kind of like a
mega, Mega Mime, just combine them all into this giant mime,
this Mr. Mime. But again, I'm not going to go
off on a Pokémon Go. It's like a Megatron mime.

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They have Dynomax Pokémon now which in Pokémon Go and they're
giant versions and they spawn sohere's hoping.
And there's an, there's an unofficial, I don't think
Pokémon itself considered to be an official Pokémon.
But then again, they did licensethe stage show so many, many

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years back. There was like an official like
stage production of Pokémon, like a musical production and
they one of the characters that was unique to it.
I'll do an episode on this particular specifically at some
point, but one of the charactersthat was unique to it, they're
like a super duper Megatron MU 2that was like this massive robot
one and they built like this huge crop and they made it as

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like a limited edition card, butit's not actually official.
It's like, I don't know, it's it's a grey area official.
But yeah, you could have made ita super duper Megatron, Mr.
Mime. That would be my worst nightmare
though. I would that.
That's like nightmare fuel. I I wish I must also say at this
juncture, I feel like I'm holding my own right now because

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I'm, I'm, I'm meant to add a, a disclaimer at the beginning of
the show that my Pokémon like fandom affinity is more
peripheral. It always has been.
I, I never, I didn't really growup watching the TV show that I
just catch it every now and again and I missed the card
phenomenon completely missed it.I don't, I don't know why or how
I missed the phenomenon. I missed the games.

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I've seen the show. Well, I've watched the show up
to episode 12 this time. Like now with you doing the the
Poker poker cast. That name again, is the Pika
Pals podcast. Sorry, it's just it's just my
pet name and I I didn't really know much about it.

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I think my near seemingly encyclopedic knowledge so far
comes from Pokémon Go, and I've played bits of games here and
there. So what really at the moment I'm
coming across is like very knowledgeable I like to think,
but I'm quite a fraud. I'm not a Pokémon expert by any
means and I I think that there'splenty of people out there that
that are going to know the insurance and outs of Pokémon

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are a lot more than me. I don't really know the games
too much, but I've enjoyed learning about it and it's just
one of those things that I thinkPokémon from the 2000s onwards
and then when the ball started rolling and then Pokémon Go just
like reignited it. I think everyone knows Pokémon

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at least, don't they? Like it became so big that.
Oh, it's a cultural phenomenon and it is completely testament
to the crazy accessibility of itthat even someone like me who's
not really involved in the worldof the card game and, and the
the the Game Boy games onwards can still know that much about

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it. And I do get overwhelmed though,
when I get, I went back to Pokémon Go recently and there's
like 1000 Pokémon and yeah, I upin the 700's.
Why does it get weird? Yeah, I've seen some of the new
Pokémon, I suppose, or the ones that are up in the thousands.
And I was like, I was like, how's that even a Pokémon?
Can I show you a Pokémon? Again, this isn't great for the

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audio, but I so I'll give the name out so that you can
listeners at home can can have alook it up, but it's called
Varoom. Is that lawnmower 1?
It it kind of looks like Beetlejuice got a car and they
made a Pokémon. Kind of looks like a robot
lawnmower, yeah. The evolution is is also
bizarre. So yeah, that's that's my new

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world. Is that like, as I've come back
to the game and I've got so manynew ones to to collect that I've
just, I think Mr. Mimes seems normal to me now.
Yeah, I, I think maybe that, like I gladly accept him with
open arms, is opposed to some ofthe new ones nowadays just
because there's so many and someof them are such strange
designs. Some of them look like plumbuses

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from Rick and Morty. That could be a Pokémon really,
couldn't it? It could, yeah.
What would it's attack be? Something that I probably I
could come up with some interesting things.
Not safe for the not safe for the for the for the peak powers
podcast. Leave it in.

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Leave that in amazing. So something you said earlier,
Mark, which I think will be really interesting to get an
insight on and it would be kind of unique from you as as a guest
is we talk about like the Pokémon craze and the Pokémon
phenomenon and all that type of stuff.
Like you previously when you worked in a video game store,

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what was like the the hype around it?
Like for the customers? Did they do like midnight
releases and stuff? Or was it, was it kind of like
mum's coming in trying to get itand then be like you got no
chance, it's sold out and. We never did a, we never did a
midnight launch for for one of them.
And in fact, when I was working,I, so I've worked in a game

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store and then a store that sells games 22 sort of different
places. Obviously the second one, you
know, because we worked there together.
But I, when I worked in the gamestore, we didn't do any midnight
launches and they were always early mornings and they would
just, the hype would go all through the day.
So it's really cool in that regard.
I'm trying to think a definitelygold and silver Ruby and emerald

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was around that time and there'sanother 2 that all I can think
of. They were kind of pastely and
shiny. That's not what they were
called. But they could.
They could have been. They could have been.
I wouldn't have known any. Different this shiny would have
been on brand. I'm trying to think if it I
think I believe it was Ruby. I got a very distinct picture of

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the the red box in my mind. I happened to be in charge of
the game store through circumstances beyond my control.
So I was in charge of the marketing of the, the store and
the layout of the store, which now I look back on it is, is
actually bonkers because I wouldn't put me in charge of it
now, let alone then. And, and we would sell maybe

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this doesn't sound a lot becausewe live in a small town.
We'd sell between 50 to 100 copies a day.
And we were one of two game stores on the same strip from
the same company. So they were always massive.
We'd sell bundles. So we'd have the, we, we went
through the DS and the, the foldable one.

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What's the no, sorry, the advance advance, then the DS,
which was the foldable one and the, the Pokémon versions of
those were massive. They were huge.
And that was our breadwinners aswell.
They, so we, we were all over that.
And the, The funny thing is the crazy thing about that time now
I think back, we would have beengiving away free cards that

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would have been in little sealing sealed packets.
We'd be, we'd have had posters, like store posters and all of
that would have just at the end would have just gone in the bin.
And it's now worth hundreds. And I know that because when the
game store was shutting down, I took some stuff, some
promotional stuff that was stillleftover and I ended up with a
box. I can just picture a square box

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and it was the colours of the original packaging and I had a
big poker ball on the front and it was just a marketing pack.
It had posters and how to sell the cards and inside were three
packets with charm, Undersquirtle and Pikachu on and
they were the original series 1 sealed packets.
And I was like that's so cool. And then a few years later I
unearthed it and I was like oh man, I've still got this.

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I wonder if there's any good cars in it?
Oh no, these cars were all rubbish back in the attic.
Fast forward a few more years and I sold that on eBay for
about £140. That's pounds to our
international listeners and I thought I sold it for that good
money. The person messaged me.
And when I'm so bad that you've listed this, I have never ever
seen one of these before and it was at that point I knew I

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messed up. Because he got it for a steal.
He like even with them with the packets unopened and I put the
cards back into the packets evenlike that when, when it kicked
off in 2000, yeah, 2020 during the pandemic when it really like
absolutely ballooned. I think that would have been
worth thousands. Like you were saying, some of

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the the promotional stuff or just like the the store
promotional standees or posters and bits and pieces there wasn't
it. There was an era or there was a
point in time where people didn't think to resell that type
of stuff or people didn't want to collect that type of stuff.
It would have just gone in the bin.
It would have just gone in the bin.
Think how much would have just been just screwed up and put in
the bid. It's a crazy world because my

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mom used to do toy fairs and shewould just buy job lots off of
eBay of cheap packs. So like boxes, you know, like
what do they call it? And they crack a case.
So she'd buy cases, get them cheap, take them to toy fairs
and just sell them a little bit of a markup.
And it reached the point where Yu-gi-oh stuff and Pokémon stuff
just wasn't selling until she couldn't shift it.

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So it was all cast aside few years, No, not like 15 years
after that point where she was doing that.
I would came, I, they came into my possession, I was selling the
tins of Yu-gi-oh for 2-3 hundreda pop, just one tin.
And these things would have, without me rescuing them, they'd
have just literally gone in the bin like someone would have, my

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mum would have just chucked themaway.
These are worthless now. They're worth nothing.
Yeah, you were saying about thatand you were saying about your
mum. Reminded me of the epic Beanie
Baby collection that she had yesand back on in the past in the
many stories of mine and Mark's friendship, which we get more

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into in future on on more episodes and stuff as we we once
decorated one of your Christmas trees with Beanie babies.
Yeah yeah. It was fun and I I was thinking
that Beanie Babies and Pokémon, which seemed like it was like a
map, the perfect crossover. They never did it.
I guess it's a licensing issue, but it seemed like it would have

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been the perfect crossover, wouldn't it?
Yeah, when, when Beanie Babies were huge, Nintendo were very,
very, very strict about their licensing.
I mean, they, they, they still are now.
They still have huge control over it.
But they didn't, they wouldn't just slap it on anything.
And Speaking of Beanie Babies, Isold some last weekend.
I sold 16 Beanie Babies for 30 lbs.

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Do you reckon it's coming back round?
No, I think it's probably going away even harder.
I honestly thought I've because there was 2 packs of 6IN C in a
sealed sealed bag I wasn't really looking for to make my
millions off of it. I thought you know they've got
to be worth at least like 5A5 are each or so.
No nothing worth absolutely nothing.
I probably sold them to some market stalled maker who's going

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to go and sell them for 4 lbs and make make double the money
he paid for it. Just stumbling across that
income in conversation, like I hadn't even thought about this
before now. And I'm, I don't know and I'm
not smart enough or intelligent enough to be able to tell you
the absolute genius at the at the Pokémon Company or the
Nintendo company in what they did.

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I know that Pokémon Go was a big, big part of things, but
I've said before on this podcastand I've said to others that
Pokémon did almost die at one point.
Yeah, it could have gone the wayof Beanie Babies in the Bubble
Burst. I know that you look back and
this anime series has been on since 1998 in the US and on in

(29:01):
the UK on words from like the late early 2000s, but there was
quite a few years where it was it was gone.
And you could probably just ditch a bunch of Pokémon cards
at a car boot sell. Yeah, nothing.
Couldn't you? Yeah, it's always the same with
any craze that has its peak and then resurgence.
That dip in between is is reallya mind blowing of of how much

(29:22):
just got discarded because people, you know, it did look
that way. Pokémon goes an odd one because
obviously it, it exploded 2 years later.
The people, the mainstream people, the people who jumped on
the craze, you'd be playing it. And people be like, that's still
a thing. And I think for people who
carried on playing Pokémon and collecting Pokémon, people like
us who thought or saw that it was dying peripherally, if we'd

(29:48):
said Pokémon's still a thing, they're people who love it.
And they've been playing tradingcard game and and you know,
we're doing runs through the Game Boy games and the the and
this is an N64 now that was Stadium on N64 wasn't.
It yeah, they had a couple of games on there.
Yeah. Pokémon, yeah.
Now, yeah, Pokémon Stadium, thatwas the one, yeah.
That was the big one, those those people who who carried on

(30:10):
playing it would just think werethat everyone else is ignorant
about it. But like it really did just
fade. It fade faded massively from the
public conscience. And I reckon that was going,
that was probably around the time where people started to
transition more to the Internet to get their, the daily
entertainment. You, you, you could watch
Pokémon on channels or you couldwatch it on morning TV because

(30:30):
that was the only source of entertainment.
And when people went, started totransition to YouTube and
Dailymotion and those kind of things, which I learned recently
instead of thing Dailymotion, who knew that was where everyone
started to think, oh, where it'sgoing away.
But yeah, I, I don't know, I can't pinpoint it.
No, I don't think it's necessarily just Pokémon Go that

(30:52):
brought it back, but or brought it back to the surface.
But yeah it definitely did seem to lol.
Yeah, could have gone the way ofBeanie Babies at one point,
which maybe the guy behind Beanie Babies, maybe he's still
holding out hope. Beanie Baby Go.
Or let's not say the idea on thepodcast because.
Oh no, I've done it. You just have to edit.
This edit this bit out because Deborah Meadon might listen and

(31:15):
she's also local and still the idea.
Shout out to Debra Maiden, who'swho do you reckon her favorite
Pokémon is Charizard. Because he's grumpy because pika
pika. So yeah, quick pika, technical
difficulties edit there. But that's technical
difficulties us in the spirit ofour our podcasting, isn't it?

(31:36):
It's what makes podcasts strong.That's what makes, yeah, What
makes. That's what makes.
Fun. We come back stronger from a
technical difficulty. And we're going to continue
talking about Pokémon. We're going to go into the
Pokémon anime, and Mark's got some thoughts in particular that
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The peak Pals podcast is where I've been on a mission to go
back and re watch the original Pokémon anime series from the
very beginning. And in my timeline of of events,
I've been talking to some of my guests who've been on around the

(35:11):
some of the sort of episodes that I've been re watching.
Mark, you've made some notes on some of the original anime that
you've already watched recently that you wanted to discuss.
So where, where was it true thatyou, that you, you dived in?
It was, it was. We're near the beginning still,
aren't we? Yeah, I, I started with episode
1 and I, I've, I've got up to episode 12 so far and I believe

(35:33):
episode 12 was the Squirrel Squad.
And I'll give you a whistle stoptour of the notes that I made.
The early ones were very, there was a critique.
Ash is a whiny punk and Pikachu's a bit of an idiot, so
I think that was just like general comment.
There's no specific episode thatI used that for.
But Ashley is quite whiny, yeah.Yeah, Episode 4 we'd all attack

(35:55):
with Savage. So in Episode 1, I think it was
episode 1, you mentioned that you had a favorite frame and it
was the Thunder lightning and I picked out in episode 7.
So if anyone is watching along episode 7, there's a face that
Misty, they're going towards a haunted house.

(36:16):
She's no, she's trying to convince them that the village
is haunted. She doesn't want them to go
there because that's where she lives.
And she pulls a face to try and convince them that it's a
haunted house. And the face was just perfect.
So that's my favorite frame. Yeah.
So you're, if you're going to send that to me and then I can
put it on socials because did you screenshot?
I didn't screed that screenshot that one.
I screenshotted Misty falling down a trap and eyeballs

(36:39):
detached. One I'm thinking.
Of Yeah, that's episode 10. So that's actually my note for
that was Misty falling in trap. And I've got the the screenshot,
so I will that's probably my second favorite, so you can have
the screenshot of that. Then episode 7, I have another
note and I, I want further discussion on this.
So I'm just going, I will loop back to that.
I have episode 6 to 9, lots of swimming pools.

(37:02):
Episode 10 Misty falling in the trap.
Episode 11 Damien's accent and the fact that he calls
Charmander Charmander. Yeah.
And I think as well he's, he's got kind of like a very what is
supposed to be English. Yeah, he's, he's got that.
He's got that. I've come across it quite a lot
recently, actually. He's got that accent that

(37:23):
Americans think we all talk him with.
It's like, hello, Governor, I amBritish and I have come to take
your Pokémon. Nobody, literally nobody in the
entire British Isles talks that way.
Sorry to disappoint you Americanlisteners, but that's hilarious
and and affectionate. Episode 12 is Meowth saying

(37:44):
cruel and unusual. And I did bring this up to you.
How is a quite that you've you've know you've said it
before how they they edit some bits out and the whole phrase
would have been cruel and unusual punishment.
And he he oddly cuts off and I thought that was a really weird
censor of of something that they've even they've been so
strict on the censoring that they've cut out punishment, the
word punishment. So apologies to anyone who is of

(38:06):
of the age that should have thatwas censored for because.
It's I think the animation of his of his mouth, the animation
of his mouth. The animation of his mouth still
moves. Does it, but it does and that's
what that's really what was the tell for me.
This one doesn't have again thisthis point doesn't have in the
specific episode, but the note is so many holes.

(38:30):
That might be plot holes maybe. But it's, it's plot holes, it's
Team Rocket holes, it's there's everyone falls down a hole in
pretty much every single episode.
Oh, it could be related to Team Rocket holes because they do
like digging a good. Hole it was all about Team
Rocket holes. So episode 7 we we know about
how Nurse Joy has variants of her sisters dotted around and

(38:53):
then you have Officer Jenny alsohas variants of hers dotted
around. And in episode 7 they encounter
another Officer Jenny and she casually mentions she's her
sister-in-law. Which made me stop and think for
a second. Oh she's the other Officer
Jenny's sister-in-law. Which means that Officer Jenny's

(39:14):
brother married someone who looks exactly like his sister.
And and and not even just slightly.
Exactly exact copy of Assistant.Which, yeah, that's I've, I'm
going to take a moment to process this because the officer
Jenny's and the nurse Joy's in particular, like if that they're

(39:37):
they're if they're a group of sisters and and they all look
the same, then I guess there could be some family
resemblance. Why would the sister-in-law look
like her? Because there's no family
resemblance there. She's not even from the same
bloodline. No, I, I wrote it off as a
strange translation quirk. That's the only thing I could

(39:59):
think of. But I also wondered why no one
in the sound booth or the, the person who was translating it
and script thought, hold up a minute.
This guy married his sister. So that was my, that was my
observation that really stopped me in my tracks during that
episode. It was a, it was a real freeze
frame in my head and I almost had to go back and make sure
that I understood it. But she did repeat it and I

(40:21):
didn't need to go back. And I think maybe it might be,
maybe it might be slightly, slightly different for for you,
Mark, I know, I know that you'reyou're quite a fan of of manga
and anime and bits and pieces anyway.
But one of the questions that people pose quite a lot is
whether that original series holds up or whether it looks too
old or whether it looks like tooold.

(40:43):
I think that you can tell it's from like the late 90s, but I
still think it's I still think it's it's watchable.
What do you think? Do you think it's it's too dated
to watch back now or it? Is very repetitive and I it made
me realize something that I did watch quite a few shows that

(41:04):
were like it. I used to watch a show called
Mysterious Cities of Gold, whichis an anime sat in set in Mexico
or the South America, and it's alot of walking to different
places every single episode. And I've realized that I've
watched anime that's like that now and I can't get into it.

(41:27):
And so the example I use is Demon Slayer because that's just
walk, fight, walk, fight, walk, fight.
And I realized that Pokémon was like that.
And I think as a kid that's actually quite kind of what you
want. It's slightly stimulating, but
it's not to say I didn't enjoy it.
It's more that. When you re watch it through

(41:48):
different set of eyes many, manyyears later, like I've done as
well, like you're saying, like the the basic structural that
the skeleton structure of, of like an episode or an arc of a
few episodes is very they repeatand then they do it again.
They repeat and then they do it again.
They repeat it, don't they? And when you watch it back, you

(42:08):
really notice it. Kind of blows my mind because
there's over 1000 episodes in there.
It blows my mind that this series is, I don't know if it
changes structure. I don't know if it changes the
way that it operates in different seasons or if they
just write the same sort of style that the same age of
people hook into every time and then they remember it

(42:29):
nostalgically. I'm not, I'm not sure.
But yeah, I think it was maybe alittle different to how I was
expecting remembered it and how I was expecting it to be.
Did the animation style of the episodes that you've watched
remind you of anything else? When I have re watched some of
the earlier episodes and I and Ihadn't seen them for for a lot

(42:50):
of years. Is that the the animation style
a little for some of them there seemed to be a little bit
reminded me of, you know, remember like the old
Transformers cartoons and stuff like they, it was kind of like
similar. Yeah, and that's the the funny
enough that I've already broughtit up, Mysterious Cities of Gold

(43:11):
is exactly what it reminds me of.
It's it's this very eighties, 90s unique anime style.
It's nowhere near as polished. And you have these things like
Misty's eyeball falling out. There's there's, there's a lot
of exaggeration to to like there's, there's almost a comic
book element That's funny because it would be manga in

(43:33):
America and in Japan. But like there's this
exaggerated style to it. I really like it when I remember
when I was watching the first episode, it actually feels like
more like a film, like the animated style.
And it's it's very gritty. It's, it's got weird grittiness
to it. And I don't know if that's the
age of the Prince of them of thethe show or if that was actually

(43:53):
the way that it was done. But yeah, it's it's got its own
charm to it that I really like. And it's got its own Charmander
or Charmander. Charmander.
Charmander. You took my Charmander.
OK, it's time for the Pick a Poker Ball challenge.

(44:17):
Mark, you ready to play? I'm more than ready.
I was born ready. You're born ready.
So with the guests I've had so far, Mark, no, you're today's
guest. Hello.
Although I guess I now have had you on so you are previous
guest. Probably would have to edit this
bit. But with the guests that I've
had so far with my brother Luke and Evie and Chris, they played

(44:40):
the poker ball challenge. Essentially there's six poker
balls here in front of you. You get to pick one of your
choice. You don't know what's inside,
but depending on who you get, ifyou choose Squirtle, you will be
playing the Pokedex number game.If you get Charmander, you will
be playing the Pokémon Impression game.

(45:01):
If you choose Bulbasaur, you're going to be playing the Pokémon
drawing game. You're going to be going up
against EV because she's played that one so far.
If you get a Pikachu Ball, we'regoing to play Pokémon
Karaokemon. If you get EV, we're going to
play who's that Pokémon? And if you get Meow, which is
the ball I'm hoping someone getsat some point, is that they have

(45:22):
to do the poker wrap, pick a ball, open him up, see you see
you get. The listeners at home, I am
going in for the ball, but if you hear a squeaking noise,
that's because my sofa is very loud.
You didn't hear it Good. OK.
Right. Yeah.
See, this just happens each timeI have a guest on as well as
that I forget to explain how to open the ball.

(45:43):
So just kind of like pull it or something or oh it.
Didn't it? Did.
I thought you pressed the button.
Yeah, it. ASMR ball opening noises coming
up. Who did you get?
I got Bulbasaur, it looks very happy to see me.
Bulbasaur means that you have the drawing challenge.

(46:03):
So Evie at this one, and she hadbeen challenged to draw a Polly
Wag. And seeing as you're a fan of
Psyduck, I'm going to give you one minute.
I'll time you to give us your best artist rendition of a Side
Duck. Don't worry if if you don't have
to commentate as you do it because I'm just going to post
your result on social media. OK, I'm going in.

(46:30):
I just I will say just at the moment he looks like Licky Tuck.
That's OK and one of the things that Pokémon most well known for
the Pokémon cards and the art style that's on the on the
cards. We just talked a moment ago
about the art style of the earlyanimation.

(46:51):
So the Pokémon drawing challengeis to see who best can replicate
the art style of Pokémon. I'm I'm quite impressed with
what you got so far. To be honest, Mark I'm not to
begin with, he was looking a bitlike a Moomin.
He. Still reminds me of a Moomin.
All right. OK, I don't know why I did that.

(47:12):
All right. That's all right.
You've got, you've got, you've got 10 seconds left.
OK, I'm finished. Thank you.
All right. And yeah, and that brings us to
the minute. So the best there's, there's

(47:32):
music and stuff edited in. When you listen back to this
mark, it's like, oh, look at that.
Like there's music and all sortsedited in.
Do you want to sign it? I didn't really want to sign it
after my last minute of action. That is really like made it bad.
I thought it was going to be he might, so I didn't look at the
toy whilst I was making it and I'm kind of like close enough.

(47:58):
I think it's pretty good. But the the for for the be be
able to see it on social media when Jed posts it.
But my my toy has a seam that runs down his nose or his beak.
Sorry. And my brain went into a
business for itself and decided to draw the seam, even though
that doesn't exist on the actualPokémon And.
And now, well, you'll see. I like it.
I like that all of these Pokémondrawings eventually going to

(48:21):
have their own little charm and he can join the Pokémon drawing
list with a with Evie's Polly Wag.
So thank you Mark for playing the pick a poker ball game.
Do you want to do some Pokémon jokes?
Oh I would love to do. Oh I'm so excited.
My voice just cracked. So this is the most popular
segment of the show. It's time for Joke Him on all

(48:47):
right? It's time for Pokémon jokes,
everyone. I've got some Pokémon jokes and
I'm joined today by my friend Mark.
Pokémon jokes for you as one foryou to read, Mark.
I'll start off it. Ash Ketchum was having trouble
catching Pokémon, so he decided to switch to a new career in
construction. He's now the master of asphalt.

(49:11):
I that wow, that one tickled me.Should I go next?
Yeah, yeah. I was going to tell you a
Pokémon joke, but I figured it wouldn't evolve into anything
funny. I mean, I enjoyed it.
A magic cart walked into a wall.He didn't know what hit him, but

(49:31):
let's be honest, it probably wouldn't have mattered if he
did. OK, my friend asked me if I knew
how to catch a Pokémon. I told him I'm not sure but I've
heard they like it when you're well grounded.
Did I read that right? Yes, I think that.

(49:54):
Why are they booing? Why is the audience booing?
How can I hear the audience? It's a podcast.
OK, right. See what else we've got here.
A man walked into a bar with a Charizard.
The bartender. A man walked into a bar with a

(50:17):
Charizard. The bartender said.
We don't serve your kind here, Char, as I've responded, That's
OK, I'll have what he's having. And it says here it was a
Pokémon Bar I. Don't get it?
That could be the new name of this segment.
Well I don't get it. Why did the Pokémon trainer fail

(50:41):
his math test? He was playing with his Pokedex.
Pokedex. I don't get that one I've Where
did you get these from? I just don't know did.
You make them up. The author of these jokes is

(51:05):
anonymous. My Squirtle always seems to be
in a bad mood. I guess you could say it's a bit
shell shocked. There you go.
It's the last one is the last one Mark's going to close us out
on, joke him on, take away Mark.Going out of a bang.

(51:25):
Ash Ketchum's favorite band. Pokey Smash Mouth.
Pokey Smash Mouth. Pokey Smash Mouth was joking on
everyone as a joke. Him on.
It's a joke. Come on.
Cracking jokes, Jed. OK, so that was Pokémon jokes

(51:55):
they're getting. I don't know if they're getting
better over there. Flatlining, if anything.
I've looked in mailbag. There's nothing in the mailbag,
I'm afraid. This week, Mark.
Oh no. So.
Didn't you get my letter? I sent an actual letter.
Oh. Yeah, I must have.
I did send it to like the counter region.

(52:15):
Oh, that's going to take a while.
Yeah. But that maybe by, I don't know,
episode like 50 or like 50-1 around that sort of time that
might have got got to me maybe. Thank you for one of the
questions you sent in previously.
This is this is quite a fun, youknow, turn of events where
someone who was listening who then sent in a question is now

(52:38):
on the show. And I can come to you live in
person with the response that they, they gave me.
And they were talking when I I answered your question.
I was talking with Evie and Chris.
They were guests on the show. And you said, which Pokémon
would I be if I, if I didn't pick Squirtle because of his

(52:59):
sunglasses and stuff? And they were like, yeah, it'd
be Bell Sprout. Oh my God that's so harsh.
But my brother was like, yeah, you're Bell Sprout because you
actually look like him. So I think you've.
Just you've just got to lean into it.
You've. Got to lean into it now, yeah.
What's the evolution of Bell Sprout?

(53:20):
From bell sprout to weeping bell.
Weeping's got like. I ain't got big lips like
Weeping Bell and then Victory Bell's like a huge version.
Yeah. What, what, what Pokémon do you
relate to in that sense? What Pokémon do you think that?
Is it side up do you think? Or it's partially side up.
I did think about this question myself, but I always had a weird
affinity with Charmander before side up became my my favorite.

(53:44):
I'd have always answered Charmander.
And I think it's, I don't know if it's just because he was a
little bit fiery when I was before I found my side up, I was
also a bit of a had a bit of a fiery temper myself.
Yeah. So yeah, he's, he's kind of like
cute looking, but he's going to burn you.
That's that's that's not me, butlike sounds really conceited to

(54:08):
say that I'm quite I'm quite cute, but I will burn you.
I will burn you. So as the podcast comes to an
end, thank you very much for being my guest on the show,
Mark. I really appreciated it.
And also it genuinely means a lot for me to tell you in person
that you've been one of the people who've massively
encouraged me to carry on with. This, and I encourage everyone

(54:30):
listens to this to send exactly the same vibes.
You've you've known me for a long time.
The podcast itself is, is kind of organically became something
out of nothing but through the support of my friends and and

(54:50):
family and and yeah, you've beenlike real big part of
encouraging me to do that. So I do genuinely mean to say
thank you for for your support in that.
Can I just as well as well as encouraging you to carry on as
I'm sure everyone who who listens has the same feelings.
Anyone who listens to this who also follows the peak power
podcast or Ye domain or on Instagram.

(55:12):
I learned a very good tip for Instagram the other day, which
is if you go to the Ye domain, your profile picture or profile
page and where it clicks following if you click that, a
drop down will appear and there's an option to favorite
the Instagram page. So if you do that click on,
you'd mania click following, click favorite.
That would do a lot of good for the Instagram channel.

(55:32):
Yeah, I didn't know. Thank you, Mark.
I didn't know that. I don't know.
And I can't figure out algorithms and stuff nowadays.
It's just the other thing that Ilike to do with with guests that
have been on the show. And if you would like to is look
at kind of Pokémon, look at the the anime, look at the fandom of
it and it as a whole and try andpull like a life lesson that we
could learn in our in our real lives or something that we can

(55:54):
applied to to everyday life. And is there anything that you
can think of that resonates when, when you think about
Pokémon or, or the anime or the games that that we could learn
from in our lives? Absolutely.
And it starts in the first episode, and it relates to
something I said in my notes, which is Pikachu's a bit of an
idiot, but Pikachu is a bit of an idiot.

(56:17):
And Ash could have left him behind.
And Ash could have decided that he's not worth his time because
his first impression of him was he's a bit of an idiot.
But everyone deserves a second chance.
They could just be having a bad day.
They could be having a bad week.Don't judge them on one action.
Judge them on their overall actions and give everyone a
chance. Thank you, Mark.

(56:39):
So before we go, just want to say thank you very much once
again to my guest Mark. You'll be on again in future.
You'll be back as a as a regularpeek of Powell, but that's the
end of the show. And you know what that means.
The time has come. Do I have to say it along?
It's OK, I'll just edit it. Edit My voice in the time has

(57:04):
come. It's for the best, I know it.
Who could have guessed that you and I, somehow, someway, we'd
have to say goodbye. Somehow today we have to say

(57:33):
goodbye. OK, there we have it, Peak of

(57:54):
pals. That was today's episode with my
special guest Mark. Thank you Mark for being a guest
on the show. I recorded this a few weeks ago,
so while I was editing it, it was really fun to listen back to
and it really made me appreciatethe great friendship that I have
with Mark. So thank you Mark, and to anyone
who's listening, take time to reach out to your friends and

(58:16):
appreciate the great friendshipsthat you have with them.
Just send them a memory of something that you did together
that that made you laugh. And thank you, Mark.
Yeah, for being on the show. Hopefully we can join forces
again in future. Dressed as Ash and a giant
Pikachu who drinks and and terrorize the Comic Con.

(58:38):
We're not terrorize, but, you know, have fun, I suppose.
Yeah. That was today's episode.
I now need to say something hereat the end.
And I usually say thank you for listening and if you've listened
up until this point then that's great.
So thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave a review

(59:00):
or a rating on Spotify and ApplePodcasts.
Thank you to everyone who's already done that so far.
Think I'm at like a consistent 5star rating at the moment, so
that's great. No doubt some like Pokémon troll
will come in there and give me like a one star which will bring
the average down. But hey, that's life and if you

(59:21):
think anyone would enjoy the peak Pounds podcast listening to
me ramble on about Pokémon then send the episode to them or just
send a link to to them in a message.
You don't have to explain just send them the link.
Like going to Spotify or Apple podcasts or YouTube.
I'm on YouTube now and you can copy and paste a link and then

(59:43):
just send it to someone in a message or send it to someone in
an e-mail, or maybe see the linkand write it out fully on a
piece of paper, HTTP dot forwardslash, you know, all that stuff.
And then write it on a piece of paper and you could send it to
someone in the post. That would be fun because then
they'd receive it and they'd be like, oh, what's this?

(01:00:04):
And they'd type it in on their computer and it would load up
and they'd be like, OK, you could do that.
It's up to you. Basically what I'm saying is I'd
love for you to help me please. Spread the word about the Pika
Pals podcast, and we're trying to get some more Pika Pals
involved. So yeah.

(01:00:24):
And rate the podcast or something.
Did I say that? I think I said that rate the
podcast and leave a review. If you haven't left a review,
please leave a review. It doesn't take very long,
although I get it. When someone asks me to leave a
review, I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'll do it.
And then you just like, you kindof never do it.
But what I'm asking is if you just please do leave a review,
then that would be really kind. Thanks, Mark, for being on the

(01:00:47):
show. Think I said that.
And oh, yeah, if you want to follow me on social media, you
can do that at Yeetamania. That's yeet Y EE TAMANIA.
Yeetamania. Like Hulkamania.
But yeet. You're all in me chasing
brother. You get Mania's running.
Wow, brother. And also, you can send me emails

(01:01:11):
at yeetamania@gmail.com. Don't forget about my fundraiser
for Mind. More details of that are in the
episode description. I've got more special guests
lined up and that's everything Ithink.

(01:01:31):
Let me know who you'd like to bea guest on the show.
Let's try and get someone reallywild on the show, like someone
completely out there who's not even like, let's hope that maybe
we'd have like a very, very slimchance of getting them on the
show and then see if we could maybe get them on the show as a
as a guest. That'd be fun.
Yeah. Cool.
You've been the real Peek a Pal and I've been Jed and it's been

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the Peek A Pals podcast. And thanks for listening and
bye.

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