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Hello friends, and welcome once again to the Pika Pals Podcast.
I'm your host Pokémon Trainer Ted, and I Thank you for tuning
in. Now the Peek a Pals podcast is
where I am on a mission to rewatch, recap, and laugh my way
through every episode of the original Pokémon anime series.
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But along the way, I'm going to have special guests on the show,
including family members, friends, and members of the
Pokémon fandom. And today's episode is another
special guest episode with two of my friends, Ben and Finn.
So 2 guests, 1 show coming at you today.
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Enjoyed recording this with Ben and Finn and thank you to the
two of you for being guests on the show.
I know that you're keen to return in future, whether you
return as a duo or return individually, who knows, let's
mix it up. But today's episode we we play
the pick a poker ball challenge.We reminisce about Pokémon on
the schoolyard growing up. As Pokémon fans, where we first.
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Discovered. Pokémon on the TV and much more
quite a deep dive into Pokémon cards in this episode and I know
a topic that we'll be keen to revisit in future.
Ben in particular is like a Pokémon card expert.
So I'm I'm really looking forward to getting him back on
the show and having an A specialepisode where we can talk about
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his Pokémon card collection. Don't forget, as always, you can
follow me across the social medias at yeet a mania.
If you've got any Pokémon questions or suggestions or
complaints or I don't know, whatever.
Or you can send me an e-mail at yeetamania@gmail.com.
But let's get to today's specialguest episode with my friends
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Ben and Finn. So turn that hat backwards, grab
your poker balls, and get ready for the Peeker Pals podcast.
Let's. Go,
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everyone. We're back on another episode of
Peeker Pals podcast, and today Iam joined by two of my very good
friends and two people who I've been looking forward to getting
on the show for a long time. They are Finn.
Hello. And Ben, hello, thank you for
joining me on Peeker Pals podcast.
Oh, it's an honour to be on here, to be fair.
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It's. Exciting, very exciting.
Thank you for having us. I got past recording one
episode, so that was an achievement for me.
I mean, at this point it might be it.
I might even be at like 9 or 10 episodes.
And we're proud of you for. It I appreciate that.
So we've known each other for a long time now, well over 10
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years, but for Matt you, well over 10 years.
Over. 10 years also, yeah, over 10 years, so.
Hello Ben. Hello Finn.
Firstly, the first question I'd like to ask everyone who comes
on to the Pika Powers Podcast and starting with you, Ben,
who's your favourite Pokémon andwhy?
My favourite Pokémon is Arcanineand Growly and I'm going to say
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it's I don't, I don't. What was like what was the what
what drew you to them when you were a kid?
Like their their characters because they're, even though
they're they're, are they like Lion Tiger E and they're more
they're kind of like a they're kind of like a companion.
I would say, I would say Asian almost, yeah.
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But I think the the fact is the pseudo legendary status that
lies behind Arcanine is the factthat he's the only one in the
Pokedex entry classified as a legendary.
Oh, right. And maybe when you first were
discovering Pokémon or reading through Pokémon book or magazine
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or or whatever it was as a kid, maybe you were like, this is my,
this is my guy. I think so.
That's not really explainable. Why someone gets fluffy boy?
Yeah, that's true, fluffy boy. He has a big fluffy but what's
your viewpoint of growlift then in comparison to Arkamine?
Is it on the same level of liking?
It is. It's cute puppy, cute puppy, and
they come hand in hand, obviously.
Evolutionary line. One of the first things I seek
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out in any of the games is always the earliest point I can
get the growlift. Well that's that's a fun fact
though for you as a Pokémon fan,it's the fact that you collect
pretty much every single Arcanine in terms of the cards
they correct. Do you know the highest level
you got an an Arcanine or Growlif 2IN in one of your games
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before? Always 100.
You've got them up to 100. Yeah, always maxed them out.
I think the first one is you always send to 100.
Yes. Oh wow, interesting.
And you like, Yeah. So you like the two.
You like their whole evolutionary like line, the
whole family. Yeah.
You like both of them. Love.
Love for Growlif is just the same.
Yeah, in the in the anime and inthe early episodes of of the
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anime, one of the first appearances of him, he's like
with Officer Officer Jenny, Officer Jenny.
The canine unit. And there's, and then there's
the episode where they have likethe Pokémon race and it's got
the error. You have to help me out.
I've forgotten what she's called.
You know the the flame horse. The Rapidash.
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Yes. And there's there's a, there's.
A Oh, sorry, forgive me the ponytail that was in the.
Rapidash Ponytail. There in the episode.
But there is a there is a growl within that episode and then
again, like this will be stuff that we'll get to Pika pals.
So don't worry, like bear with me, it's all this exciting stuff
is to come. What you then later discover is
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that James from Team Rocket had a Growlithe when he was little
boy. Yes.
See, I missed that completely. That shows I need to rewatch the
original. Wow, stay tuned to Pick Pals
podcast I would where I'll be recapping, rewatching, and
laughing my way through every episode of the original anime
series right from the very beginning.
Or a little gym. Yeah, he had a prowler, didn't
he? He did.
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What happened? Actually, I'll leave that for
the episode. I was going to say what happens,
but we'll see. I'll wait for that episode then
in anticipation. And tattoo as well.
Yes, yes I do have a Arcanine tattoo based off one of the
Pokémon card arts. Is that your favourite art?
Like card art. It was the one I thought would
translate the best into tattoo. Cool.
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How long did it take for that tattoo to obviously be done?
It was about four hours. 4 hours, is that in one session
or? It is yes.
Oh wow. Or even colouring and everything
else. Yeah.
Oh wow, 'cause I know a lot of people with their tattoos, they
have to go back for like multiple like shadings and all
that sort of stuff. Yeah, no, this one was 1 sitting
'cause it's quite a small one. I think in terms of favourite
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Pokémon or being a fan of a Pokémon, that's almost like the
the highest commitment is like you're if you're to to.
Anything on your skin, if you'rea fandom for anything, not even
just Pokémon for anything at all, and you've got it willing
to put on your skin, it shows like how much of A commitment
you have to like their love for that thing.
And it's the same for Pokémon. Obviously it's for Ben in that
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situation. Obviously loving Arcanine enough
to be able to have I would. Do you have any other Pokémon on
your? On your I don't, not yet.
I would like to get some, but, you know, money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are expensive tattoos.
Who would you? Who else would you rather have
on your leg or on your body or whatever?
I am looking at getting both a grow leaf and a poker ball.
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Oh cool. Because, you know, the symbol of
Pokémon itself that speaks to meis one of the most iconic, yeah.
The original red and red and white breakable.
So you, your, your twin, your brother discovering Pokémon
together. But I'm just interested in terms
of the dynamics of two brothers who are twins who would have
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discovered Pokémon around the same sort of time.
Who's your brother's favourite Pokémon, do you know?
My brother's favourite is is Charizard.
We can't lie he's he's common asmark as people might think, but
there is always have the fond love very Charizard.
Oh, right. OK, that's cool.
I just, I just wondered if like had twin brothers, you both
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liked the same the same one. Yeah, no, he's Charizard through
he's. Charizard through and through.
Both fire type Pokémon Yeah, that's interesting.
So there is there is a. Connection there.
Connection. Yeah.
And Finn, Yeah, over to you. OK.
Who's your favourite Pokémon andwhy?
My favourite Pokémon is actuallya Ditto and the reason why I
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like Ditto is because of the fact that Ditto can obviously
transform into any Pokémon and usually I think I believe I
might be wrong on this can turn into any object as well.
So that also the fact that you can then also turn into humans
as well, which is pretty cool. I'm pretty sure I've seen that
before. So Ditto is really like
malleable and also in the game in particular, Ditto is really
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cool because the fact that you can then transform into the
other Pokémon and then use theirmove set.
So you could have like a really powerful, if you've got a Ditto
really powerful up and you're going against your, your
competitor, Yeah, of course, obviously you'll be going like
against the fire type, against the fire type, technically if it
transforms, but it's still as powerful as whatever you're
fighting against. So you've got a 5050 chance of
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winning. Plus also it's pretty cool.
It's like a little pink BLOB that you can poke.
And if you're willing, if you, if you're happy to accept that
I'll, I'm thinking of the the Ditto episode where he can't
transform his face. Yes, he has like the standard
Ditto face, but if you're willing to accept that your
favourite Pokémon could also be and say we'll just stick with
like the 1st 151, but now there's like thousands of
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Pokémon, but you've played Pokémon be all of them, really.
Yeah, it's transforming every light.
Yeah, today you could be like. Ditto Today I want you to look
like. Blastoise Yeah, but then at the
same time, I do like Dio for being Ditto for four years
exactly. I I could love a Ditto just for
being a Ditto. Pink.
BLOB. Also, I know that there was a
thing that came out recently that supposedly Ditto.
This is like a fan theory of Ditto is that all Dittos are a
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failed version of a MU. And that's apparently what's
been put out there is the fact that every Ditto, because of the
fact that obviously MU has all these magical powers, obviously
they were trying to make a cloneof MU and obviously they
eventually got to MU 2, but in that process they had all of
those failed ones, which are allthe all the dittos.
And MU also has the ability to transform.
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There you go. Ditto fat.
Hashtag Ditto fat. Yeah, that's why he's such a
cool Pokémon, because he could be.
Actually, technically, it's not Ben Cannon.
It's not 100%. The ability.
Exactly. There's a chance that it
actually could be a failed experiment, but what a cool
failed experiment. And MU contains the DNA of every
Pokémon. Exactly.
So there you go. That's why that theory makes
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complete sense, and why Ditto isthe number one choice for my
mind. Thank you for your both of your
answers on your favourite Pokémon.
We're we're similar in age so we're kind of like we're the
perfect age when Pokémon first came on TV.
So do you guys remember it on SMTV?
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Live. I do, yes.
And when you think back to Pokémon in in your life or, or,
or why you resonate with it was one of the things that you're
you're like a big fan of in the Pokémon world, like whether I
mean, could be a fan of all of it.
But what you found of in meticulous, is it the trading
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cards, the Nintendo games, the anime show?
What was it? Is it like as a kid that you
were really into? Because when I was tracking with
Chris and Evie on the show, Chris doesn't really watch the
the TV show. He said he only ever really
played the games, but he's stilla massive Pokémon fan just
through that. So is there anything in an area
of Pokémon in particular that you're big fan of?
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For me at least, the first introduction to Pokémon was the
trading card games because everyone was so into the trading
card games. And then my second intro
actually before watching the anime was actually the was the
having Pokémon Blue, because Pokémon Blue was a huge part of
my childhood in particular. And I played that religiously.
And I'm going to see the anime. Then obviously I watch obviously
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on TV when it come on and usually come on off after Chilly
Willy that if you remember that TV show.
So I remember always being like,get past Chilly Willy.
I want to get to the Pokémon. But yeah, no.
So my intro was first the trading card games and I don't
we had a couple of the original ones, but our main ones that we
got was actually from the secondone, which is the the fossil
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ones and the jungle ones were our main ones that we had.
But yeah for me it was the trading card games, then the
actual like Game Boy game and then the anime.
I I think that a lot of people were trading Pokémon cards and
some of the kids in the in the playground that probably didn't
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really even know what Pokémon was, but they knew that these
cards were popular and they had like these cool pictures on of
these. Of for sure these.
Characters and stuff, but. To be fair, even even into
adulthood, I didn't actually know how to play Pokémon until I
got well, until I had children and wanted to play the game with
them. And then I it wasn't until then
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I actually understood how to play the actual Pokémon Trading
Card game. Yeah, I never knew to be honest.
Yeah, until I I learned from Pokémon Pocket app.
Oh yeah, where it like tells youthat it does like a tutorial.
And I was like, oh, that's what an energy card means.
The irony is I did actually have.
There was a Game Boy game that was the Pokémon trading card
game on Game Boy and I remember having.
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That I. Remember having that and playing
that religiously as well, But even then I had no memory of how
actually to play the actual cardgame, even from playing that
game. So it wasn't, Yeah, like I said,
it wasn't until that I actually learned how to actually play
Pokémon actual card game. That's the same for me.
Yeah, but that's the thing, it'slike you'd obviously trade them
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and collect them because they were funky and cool.
But my question obviously to youguys as well is did you ever
have to come across people who had who said that they had
Pokémon cards, but they had likethe Knock off Jimmy version
where it's like I think it was like Tops cards or something.
And it was just literally a picture of a Pokémon on it.
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And it wasn't any kind of like energies or anything like that.
It was just a big picture of a Pokémon.
Yeah, there's a, there's a separate line of cards and just
recently actually I said I sent a picture to to you Ben and it's
like that I managed to dig out ashoe box of Pokémon cards in my
parents attic. What original Pokémon cards?
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Or is it like those like knock off Jimmy versions?
Oh, both, they're both of them. That's what that's what reminded
me is because they were in thereas well.
And when I saw them and then looked back on them, I was like,
I remember, I remember some of those cards more because the
actual pictures on those were the same as what was on the
anime, because the pictures on the Pokémon card, the trading
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card games, the art was different, like Bulbasaur was
drawn different, you know, But the ones, the tops ones that
you're talking about, which were, it was just like a
separate line. The pictures on there were like
screenshots of the TV show, weren't they?
Also official and now just as valuable.
Really. Oh, I feel bad then because I
had a next door neighbour who literally would come round with
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his tops cards and I'd, I wouldn't scold him, but I'd be
like, I felt bad for him becausehe'd be like, oh, do you want to
play trade Pokémon cards? And they'd be like, Oh yeah,
yeah, cool, no worries. And I got my Pokémon cards out
to trade with them, proper ones obviously, with the energy and
everything else and the move sets.
And I'd be like, right, what yougot?
And he'd come out with his tops cards and I'd be like, I don't
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know, it's like that. They're, they're actually pretty
cool. They're pretty cool.
They're cool. But like, they weren't back
then, at least I remember being.Maybe I was a snobby kid, but
like, Pokémon, yeah, a Pokémon snob.
But like I was like, Oh no, likeI really want it.
Because I know I I know what Yeah, I know what you mean in
terms of like sometimes you'd belike dependent like some kid
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would just trying to do like a naff trade.
Yeah. They weren't trying to.
They weren't trying to to to. It's like trying to trade a POG.
Fred Hazard was it? Exactly?
They're the same thing, but. Well you wouldn't go to school
with the Topps cards and try andtrade Topps cards, Pokémon
cards. I didn't know I I was saying to
my brother the other day when welooked back through them, the
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Topps ones, we didn't know anyone else that got that
collected them. Well, my next door neighbour.
Your next door neighbour you could have traded, could have
traded everything. I had to trade my proper Pokémon
cards for them because I felt bad for him because I was like,
oh, he doesn't have proper Pokémon cards, I'll give him
some of mine and then he can give me one of mine.
So I think I have somewhere in my collection some of them, one
of them, or at least a couple ofthem from from my next door
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neighbour. If you've got a growly, if I'll
have it. And what was what was crazy when
we this was only a couple of nights ago.
Well, in terms of recording this, don't know when it's going
to be listened to. It could have been 100 nights
ago, a couple years ago maybe. But me and my brother looked
through and we were like, ah, let's look at curiosity.
And like you were saying, one ofthose tops ones.
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I was a Charizard and I was like, no, I was like, no way.
It was PSA graded 10, like top of the line whatever on eBay
someone was selling for like quarter of £1,000,000.
No, no, yeah. Those tox cars.
Because they were like. Matures and conditions, they
find it. Yeah, they were like find it.
They were like. The the lesser known ones, yeah,
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right. But I think that's why there's
lesser so. My next door neighbour is
probably laughing to himself. They're like, Oh yeah, my my
next door neighbour. Can you might come back around
and be like, can I trade back? Can I have that weedle back
please? Ben, what about you?
What is like kind of a Pokémon? What came first question?
Was it the the games or the the anime or the OR the?
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They kind of came hand in hand. So the first I remember was
because not the sound like snobby, but my dad.
Always Pokémon snob on the show today.
This is the Pokémon snob. Episode I'm going to actually
this might be perfect because I'm about to in terms of my
episode review, I'm about to tieit into the one where they go to
like that private school. And today on the big podcast,
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I've got 2 fans at the private school episode.
I've got 2 Pokémon snobs, 2 Pokémon.
Snobs. So my dad was always the first
to have new media and new technology.
So he when it came out, he wanted to have Sky.
So he had the big, Big Sky dish install with 500 channels.
Therefore we had Sky One and that is my earliest memory of
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Pokémon being on the TV. So before it was on SMTV, it was
on Sky One. And we fell in love with Sony.
Me and my brother and my mum went out into town and she went
into all of the, the magazine shops, like the trading card
shops to find these things and they hadn't heard of them.
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And my mum was like, Oh well, the, I'm pretty sure this is
going to be big. And within weeks, months of that
happening, lo and behold, we hadall the announcements of the
trading card coming out and thenthe Pokémon Red and Blue.
So for my birthday, the first year we found out about it, I
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believe 98, it was the year in Europe we got Pokémon Red and
Blue respectively. And that's been it ever since.
Wow. And back in that time as well,
it would have been like the trade buyer, the transfer.
Cable exactly that yeah. So this was Game Boy original
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before the colour, because we didn't yet have the colour.
And yeah, that was. You were very ahead of the
Pokémon. It was as we found out about it
that was we got into it hard. So 98 is when we were first into
it. I must have missed that
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completely on Sky One because wehad Sky going into 97 and I must
have missed that completely. I could have been ahead of the
curve, like when the cool kids who have been like, you know,
this thing called Pokémon. Yeah, well, I'm watching it all
the time, but. Being from small town areas,
there was very few people that actually knew about it and when
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it first boomed we were quite excited about it.
Do you remember the trouble chops used to be able to get?
Yes, one trouble chop and it. Happened with those lolly the
bubble gum inside, yeah. Yeah, come with a sticker.
Didn't. It it did, yes, but.
They used to do that also for the Spice Girls as well.
Spice Girls had a version as well.
Yeah, Spice. Girls a month.
Yeah, I love I I was all over him.
I was like, oh, and Jerry. OK, if Jerry Halliwell was a
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Pokémon Trainer, who would her Pokémon be?
Oh, well, I think she'd be very mirroring.
Mirroring even to Misty. So I think because obviously
they're both ginger, so I think they both probably go for water
types, yeah. Right.
Yeah, I can get behind that. I.
Thinking that maybe she'd be keen on and we don't.
We don't actually see in the series as such someone like have
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this Pokémon as their main Pokémon in in the same way that
Ash has Pikachu but she could have a Jigglypuff.
She could Jigglypuff like singing.
Yeah, good point. Yeah, that's a good point.
So it could be an army of Jigglypuffs.
Yeah. That would be a hell of a girl
band in like Pokémon World. It's like a whole gang of
Jigglypuffs. They'd send everyone to sleep
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all the time. I've got a question actually,
because you, you asked, you've talked about the Pokémon game,
like the Pokémon Blue one. Did you ever have a situation?
Because I know I did that, obviously, because back along
you didn't have multiple saves and even on the later games you
don't have multiple saves. Did you ever have a situation
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where someone else saved over your game?
Yes. Do you remember?
Do you remember what happened? I do is my original save game is
gone my Pokémon Red so I came home from school and my my mom
had a friend who was a neighbourthat had come over with a
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younger son yeah who had been let go on the game.
And when I came home, I rememberdistinctly the name being
changed saying that had been paid for about 20 minutes and
two Pokémon and no badges. Oh my God.
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And I had completed this game. I had.
Unfortunately I had all 151 legitimately because I went to
an event in Bristol where a gamefreaked themselves were
distributing a legit MU. They would take your cartridge.
Yeah, because you can only get it before, but it was like
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hidden underneath, like a car orsomething.
That was like a glitch. That was a glitch, but that was
proven to not work. Really.
Yeah. That was the Serafin by the SSI
and using strength from the the drug didn't work.
Didn't work. No, I have tried.
And there was the famous infamous that would break your
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game. Yes, that if you tried to, if
you tried to get it and like it would go around in school,
people would be like, oh God, oh, do this.
You might be able to get a MU orsomething in it.
But if you did it, yeah, the game is dead.
Yeah. So there is a legitimate way to
do that, which I have also done,but that's since but my original
legitimate copy of it gone. That's terrible.
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I mean I've I have a similar ishstory but not to that level Like
all 151 and also getting like anexclusive MU.
That is so gutting. The only memory I've got of
someone saving over mine is I went on a trip to someone called
Kilvcourt and I took my. Out to Kilvcourt.
Sponsoring the episode. Nikkabal's podcast loves
dropping like localised references.
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Yeah, so Kilvcourt. I remember going on a field trip
to Kilvcourt as a kid in Year 5.I brought my Pokémon Blue with
me and my Game Boy, and I was like, oh, mum, can I take this
with me? And she was like, yeah, as long
as you look after it and all that sort of stuff.
I was like, yeah, yeah, I will. And she was like, oh, when
you're not using it, make sure it's locked away so that no one
can see it. Like so then it doesn't get
taken or broken. I was like, yeah, no worries, no
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worries, I'll make sure. So I go obviously to kill the
court having fun. And then obviously they're doing
it in different groups of different events.
So I think I had to go out and do archery or something like
that and I was just playing my Pokémon game.
I was like, yeah, awesome. So I was like, oh OK, I'll put
it in my bedside of a drawer so it's nice and safe.
I come back from archery and a friend of mine is in his bed
because there's about 6 or 7 beds in this big room and he's
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in his bed in the corner like like huddled.
And I was just like, what is he doing?
I was like, oh that's weird. I was like, oh you know what?
I feel like playing a bit of Pokémon Blue, so I open the
drawer, it's not there and I'm like what the heck?
I turn around to my friend who'sstill huddled in the corner and
he then shoves something underneath his duvet and I'm
like, I hope he hasn't got my Gameboy.
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Lo and behold, he did have my Gameboy.
And lo and behold, he also then saved over my game, which I had
been playing religiously to try and obviously get to the end.
And I think at that point I was at the the Elite 4 right at the
end, just before where you I hadto stand outside because I even
saved it then and made sure I loaded up with potions and all
that sort of stuff because I tried it before and I'd lost.
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And I was like, right, OK, I'll go back to it.
And I remember thinking, oh, I've put it down.
I'll come back to that after we've done archery and I'll see
if I can beat them. And those are my first time
going through it and playing it.And then yeah, I come back to
it. Name a change to my friend's
name. Not going to obviously name and
shame but yeah they had changed the name of the character to him
and yeah no and only had like 3 Pokémon and they were all I.
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Mean if they were going to at least raise over the game, at
least be good at it, yeah. Exactly, and they'd pick the
Bulbasaur. Yeah, I can't.
I actually remember what they chose, but probably it was a
Bulbasaur. Yeah.
Do you guys remember what the response was at your school to
Pokémon? Because I know that at my first
school, which was around the time when Pokémon and Pokémon
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cards were first popular and started to get traded and people
were taking them into school. And then there was like people
were like, oh, somebody's has been like nicked or somebody's
done like an unfair trade. And then so Pokémon cards got
banned in my school. They did put mine as well got.
Banned at your school? Yeah, I've got two stories of
the school situation with Pokémon.
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It's the first one, the reason why it got banned in my school
was funny enough just talking about the friend who saved over.
One again, it was him. Again.
It was like Gary Oak. Literally.
He had 10. Badges.
Yeah, it was my real life Gary, but he was actually a nice guy.
But anyway, he got in a fist fight over a squirrel and that's
why, because he was trading Pokémon and he felt it was
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unfair because he was trading his squirrel for something.
I'm not sure what. Let's say in this situation.
A ratat. Yeah, He was trading it.
And he said it wasn't fair that the other person was obviously
trading a ratat through his squirrel and got upset about it.
And then the other kid then said, well, it's a trade now
give me your squirrel. And then he said no.
And then he got on a fistfight. And then as soon as that
happened, banned. Completely banned.
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On one hand, I kind of like whenyou look back as being
especially, I think sometimes I look back and think when I was
younger and Pokémon cards and stuff like I could be like
easily swayed into probably doing a deal that was proper
screwing me over by someone who was being a bit mean.
And and then you think, ah, I was a bit mean, but of the other
person. So on one hand, I'm like fair
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playroom for standing his ground, being like he.
Were in the fun for everyone. He were in the fun for everyone.
Yeah, he were in the fun for everyone.
So that's not so great. But I just don't think schools
understood it. And it was just got it.
It was, it was, it was just going to create a problem,
wasn't it? Because kids were going to go
home and complain to their parents?
But it's interesting that it gotbanned.
All three of our schools went todifferent schools.
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Ours was widely due to the mediaso we've never had any actual
incidents in our school, but so Pokémon as a whole was allowed
in the. School it's like do not mention
Pokémon. Pokémon cards, the trade and
card game strictly not allowed to bring them in for our own
safety because there was criminal activity, Team Rocket,
(28:56):
Team Rocket that was happening in other schools that led to
unfortunately injuries over the Pokémon.
And so they're like, no, we're not even going to entertain the
idea to. Be fair though, like the
situations in school when you did have Pokémon cars, it was
kind of like early days drug dealing.
Yeah, it does seem like mafia level.
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Because there was my second story is pretty much that.
So like there was a kid that I'dnever known.
He was like, I was in like, whatever year I was in year 4 or
five, must be in Year 5 again. And there was a year 6 in this
situation. There was a kid that I'd never
talked to in my life. I was coming in early in the
morning. My Pokémon card was all excited.
And he was like hidden around the corner like a member of Team
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Rocket waiting there for me. And he comes out and he's like,
oh, do you want to trace some Pokémon cards?
And I was like, yeah, sure, why not?
Bushy tailed, like excited, I'vegot these Pokémon cards in my
hand thinking, oh, I'm going to be trading with my friends, but
who's this kid? Oh, he's a bit older than me,
maybe he's got some cool cards. I go over and he shows me really
quickly and it was a shiny victory bell.
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And I was like, oh God, that's so cool.
It's a shiny victory bell. I'm all over this, like this is
amazing. And I was like, oh, what do you
want for it? And he was like, oh, what have
you got? And I looked, I went through all
my stuff, and it was like a Pikachu, a Rychu and all that
sort of stuff. And I gave him at least about
six or seven cars because I thought, Oh my God, he's going
to give me this shiny Victory barrel.
And I thought he was doing a really good deal with me because
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I was like, I'm only giving him like base Pokémon.
And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine, that's fine.
And he took him. And then he handed it over to
me, the Victory barrel, before Icould even look at it, he was
gone, just like Team Rocket. And I looked down and it'd been
folded in half, both top and bottom.
So there's a massive crease downthe bottom and the sides and I,
I, that was a lesson learnt thatday because I was just like one,
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never do drugs and 2:00 because of the fact that obviously you
shouldn't go to a drug dealer inthis situation and obviously
that. Victory.
That new drug victory. Valve.
Yeah, Victory Valve. Always get the goods first.
Exactly, the second is yeah, youalways get the goods 1st and the
3rd and that situation is then don't trust someone that you
don't know, especially when it comes to Pokémon.
Cards and it's fine as well because I when I was looking
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through some of the Pokémon cards that me and my brother had
when we were younger. And I'm sure it'll be the same
for you to because of how much of a fan of Pokémon you were.
But didn't you find as well likesome other kids you should just
really mistreat their Pokémon cards like scuff them.
And I'd just be like, who treatsthat stuff like that anyway?
Yes. The kind of kids who want to
trade them. Yeah.
And so, yeah, some of them were like, real bashed around,
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weren't they? I've unfortunately got a lot of
my original Pokémon cards and mycousin pocketed them.
Shall we say? Pokémon Pocket?
Pokémon Thief? Pokémon Pocket left home.
Oh, wait a minute. There we go.
He was a peeker pocket not even joke him on.
(31:49):
Yeah. Not even joke him on Yeah.
So yeah, pocketed those. And it wasn't until half hour
later we've gone. Where are my Pokémon cards gone?
And my parents then phoned theirparents swiftly turned around
and obviously had to wait for them to get home at that point
(32:11):
because the landlines came back and had to hand them back to me.
And they were all scuffed where he had them squirrelled away.
Yeah, squirrelled away in this pocket and order the hollow
foils, because they were the good ones, had unfortunately
(32:31):
been wiped away. So I've got those in I'm
unfortunately and then. Like more for like personal
memory reason that they're your original ones.
That's a real shame that it is. And you would get you would I
think that it really bought out the different personalities of
of different kids on the schoolyard.
(32:52):
And it's like, definitely, yeah,you definitely had some people
who who weren't couldn't be trusted.
They were like Team Rocket slashGary Oakes Slash Yeah Pokémon on
the. Schoolyard I remember at the
peak of the time when they were coming out was the original base
set my mum bought on eBay, my brother, both me and my brother
(33:16):
a Charizard card, each of which we still got now for 8 lbs.
Oh well, that. Point that was extortionate and
said I'm not paying 8. Pounds for a piece of card?
Yeah. She did, she reluctantly got it
for us. We've both got it in original
condition. Wow.
My brother's had his sent away to PSA.
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He's come back at 7. Oh wow.
So he's in relatively good nick.My one not worth doing because
unfortunately, as I said previously, it's been scuffed.
But that was what that. It was, yeah.
I've got back in my binder personally for my own love.
Yeah, it's more just like memories, that one.
Yeah, Yeah, the Peak Pals podcast going to roll on.
(34:01):
We're going to play Pick a pokerball, Going to look at some
listener questions. OK.
But first we got to take a pausefor the cause.
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Yeah, I mean, they're cosy, but they also like keep you nice and
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Has there been a particular one of the images that that stood
that stood out to, I mean that Pikachu vacuum cleaner?
Vacuum was up there but I think my favourite has been the
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I would. Sleep like it looks.
Very comfortable. That does look very comfortable.
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So. I feel like I could do that so
much better you. Know the ones when the guests on
it doesn't matter what. It sounds like any flames.
Flames, Yeah, but. I feel like I stumbled a lot
more than you did guys. Because you like fully
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podcast. I've just got message through
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OK, Yeah, I. Understand.
I can understand why based on myadvert like I'd allow as well
from. Sponsoring the show in future.
OK Ben, then when I have guests on the show, I'm excited to play
my Pick a Poker Ball challenge. I have two bags here, and each
(41:26):
of them contain three poker balls.
Because there's two of you, I'm going to give you a bag each.
Don't look into it, Don't look into it.
Have. You got a name for these poker
ball bags? They're poker ball bags.
Can I open it just not look you?Just yeah, you can open it, just
don't look. So the picker poker balls
challenge for those of you who are listening for the first
(41:47):
time, each bag has three poker balls in.
I've got 2 guests today so they're both playing and if they
pick a squirrel they get challenged with the Pokedex
game. Oh God.
If they pick a Charmander they get challenged with the Pokémon
Impressions game. If they pick a Bulbasaur, they
get challenged with the Pokémon drawing game.
(42:08):
If they pick a Pikachu they haveto do Pokémon karaoke Mon.
Oh God hope. Not if they pick an EV, then
we're going to play who's that Pokémon?
And if they click a click, if they, if they pick a Meow, we're
going to play the poker rap game.
Oh God. So when you're ready, select
(42:28):
your poker. Ball, I've got some ASMR for
you. OK, I've got chosen my poker.
Right, I'll take your poker ballbag.
Thank you for my. This will be another this
happens every time I have a guest on as well, which wasn't
intentional, but it's just that they it's we do one at a time.
So Ben, you first, if you open your ball well, try and figure
(42:49):
out how to do it because every guest is like, I can't get it
open. I'm just like pull it or
something. I don't know.
It's really stiff. Who did you get?
I got squirto. The Pokedex number challenge.
OK, these are cool though, so let me just prepare again.
(43:11):
Might edit this out, might leaveit in.
I want to pick a different. I'll prefer to do the poker rap.
I can't remember the original Canto decks or after.
OK, right. Pokedex challenge.
All questions. OK.
So this is an example, This is the, this is the example.
As I was saying to my brother when he was on the show and he
(43:32):
was like the example, like this is the example, is this the
example, This is the example. So.
This is the example. I used to say who in the Pokedex
is Pokémon #1 Yeah, when you're ready, there'll be like music
edited in all sorts, and then, oh, when you listen back to.
It like the you should have the like who wants to be a
(43:54):
millionaire? Can.
We do it, but I'm right on all of them.
Yeah, I'll just figure out who things go up can.
Fix it if you want. Well, now that's the telltale
sign. Oh God, oh what is mine going to
be? I don't know what my game is,
sorry. I'm getting distracted to fight
OK. OK then this is only based on
the original 151 Pokémon becausethat's the era of the anime that
(44:18):
I'm watching at the moment. Who is Pokémon #51 the trio,
correct? Damn righty then, it's.
Pretty impressive. As we go, my Vin, you can choose
one. Oh, I have to choose one.
Oh 100% that one. My one that I'm choosing is #70.
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Sorry that. Oh Pokémon #70 is weeping bow.
Weep voluptuous lips. Should have known.
OK, Next up, who is Pokémon number 94?
Comix. Oh, as close Onyx is, 9594 is
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Gengar who is Pokémon #59. Arcanine.
Well done, Ben. Thanks for playing the poker
ball challenge. Then who have you got inside
your poker ball? Oh.
God, oh, I think meow. It's a meow.
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Meow. What does meow mean?
Remind me? That's right, meow is you have
to. Give everyone money because of.
Meow is the poker rap game? God, what do I have to do?
Well, the poker rap game is as follows.
I'm gonna play you the original poker.
Rap God, I thought you gonna sayI have to wrap it.
I'm like, oh God. You have to say who's next in
(45:49):
the poker raft. And and then I'm.
Oh God, if there's only one thatI've memorised.
And that's gonna be Charmeli. Yeah, Charmeli or.
Water to a new to tentacle rare.Redact them all my nice slow
posts. So you're doing a pigeon, you're
coming out, that's all good. So.
Then it ends on Pigeon R Buck and then they they clearly were
like, we have to get Pigeon R Buck and how we're gonna say it.
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Yeah, just Chuck it in. That's.
Fine, folks, Yeah. OK, so we just listened to the
poker rap then. Yeah.
Were you? Were you paying attention?
I don't think I was, but yeah. All right, so OK guys, we got to
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wrap some Pokémon. You just do the singing.
I'll take care of the hard part.Let's get into the poker rap.
Who comes after Geo dude? Geo Dude, yeah.
Dude, oh, man. I'll, I'll sing a bit for you.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
Zoo bait, Zoo baby. Zoo Bat.
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Primate Meow. Onyx.
Geodude, it's going. To make it worse, because the
fact that I'm going to go for dinner zoo.
Bat, Primate. Meow Onyx.
It's Rapidash. I see Ditto let me down.
He's my favourite Pokémon, but he let me down.
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I mean, I don't know. Ditto can transform me.
He could. Be he could pretend that he
wasn't all. Right now so.
Technically I'm right. Welcome to the poker app.
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto, Ditto, Ditto, Ditto.
And a bit of Rabidash. OK, and a bit of revenge.
Who's the next Pokémon in this verse?
Metapod, Marawaka. Kuna.
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Clefairy. Dodrio.
Sedra. Bioplune.
Rosalina. Metapod, Marawaka, Kuna Clefairy
Odrio Sedra. Fire Bloom, Granny.
It looked like you were mouthingTeam Rosalina.
I was like, yes. Barry Dodrio, Sidra bio Plume
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Crabby. Oh, that was completely awful.
I'm terrible at this jeans I've only I only won.
I know 1 rap I'm I'm done. OK, OK, right.
I'll give you one more there. I'll just give you the last one.
Right? Yeah, yeah.
Charmelian War turtle U2 tender,cruel Eradactyl.
On the night slow poke you 2 allright million.
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War Turtle. MU 2 Tender cruel erodactyl.
That's all that was Poker ball challenge.
Thanks for playing today's contestants.
I like that, yeah. That was terrible.
(48:45):
I'll edit it. It's fine.
The guest episodes are just having fun like it don't really
matter. There's no structure to it.
I don't even know what I was doing in the 1st place to be
honest. That was the pick a pokeball
challenge. Thanks for playing.
Do you want to do some Pokémon jokes?
Sounds good to me. It's Joe Kamal.
It's time for everyone's favourite segment, Joe Kamal.
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To start off here, why did Mankyquit his job at the Pokémon?
Because he was tired of working for peanuts and poker balls.
Do you hear that silence? Next on the list.
So what did Voltorb say when he saw his reflection?
That's shocking. There you go.
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Why did Toros cross the road? To get to the other side and
maybe find a better trainer. Just ditch him completely.
What do you call a Pokémon sing along karaoke?
(50:00):
That's been the best for their friends.
That's Coke. That's so funny.
Oh my God, Jokimon's got a genuine laugh.
This is a historic day, ladies and gentlemen.
Jokimon has got a genuine laugh.God say that 10 God, why did
Brock refuse to use a master ball?
He said It took all the fun out of rejection.
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Oh, and he's used to getting rejected.
That's really, that's actually areally sad joke.
Sad. But maybe like, he likes getting
rejected maybe. He wrote that joke himself about
his own life. That's quite sad.
This is good, the way we were laughing before we read it, so
this is good. OK, I'm excited.
Man, that rock type is really fast.
Yeah, he puts the go in golem. Oh God.
(50:47):
Jesus Christ. OK, I'll take us home.
I took my elector buzz to the vet.
He said you need to stop feedinghim electricity.
I said, but that's his diet. The vet said that's not how it
works. Doesn't make any sense
(51:08):
whatsoever an elector, Buzz said.
Does Elector Buzz eat electricity?
I don't. I don't know.
Thanks everyone. Now it's a dragon on dragon on
dragon. An actual genuine joke.
(51:35):
An actual one. An actual one actually laughed.
That's being I'm copyrighted. I'm copyrighted that because the
author of all of the jokes is unknown.
When we put on the People podcast, he uses a pen name.
OK. Yeah, Joe Kimon, but.
That should be a joke itself. Well, yeah, I'm not taking
(51:57):
credit for them because it's theauthors unknown, Yeah.
OK, that was Jokamond. And let's see if we've got any
listener questions this week. It's time for ring, ring, ring,
phone call, phone call. Hello, this is the Ketchum
(52:22):
residence. OK, right.
I've got my guests on the show this week, so I've got Ben and
Finn, And our first question comes from Charlie Charizard.
Oh, thank you, Charlie Charizard, He says.
Hey, Jared, Ben and Finn. I don't know.
I knew you guys were going to behere, but maybe they did.
He said. If Pokémon were real, which one
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would be the most dangerous to encounter in the wild?
Oh. Oh, which one would be the most
dangerous to encounter in the world?
I always think Gyarados is like,Oh yeah, it's pretty bad, isn't
he? You'd have to be in the water
for that. 1. Yeah, that is true.
Although Hypno is dangerous because he can then hypnotise
you to do whatever he wants. So that's pretty dodgy.
(53:05):
That's that's true. That's especially especially
down a dark alley. And you wouldn't know you
wouldn't know you. Wouldn't know I.
Think just because of short views I ain't going to say
probably primate. Yeah, that's true.
And you wouldn't want to wear a hat around him, would you?
Be all over that hat. Next question comes from Noel
here, who sent it in via e-mail,they've said.
(53:26):
Did you ever believe any fake Pokémon facts when you were
young? Funny enough, we talked about it
earlier, didn't we? I obviously believed that you
could get a move from underneatha car in Pokémon Blue.
There were quite a lot of. School rumours about the game
around that sort of time, right?There were, yeah.
The one that I was always hopingwould be true was finding
(53:46):
peekaboo in Bell's secret garden.
Oh yes, Very sad to find out that was just a marrow.
Who created these rumours and how did they travel around?
They come. Around, yeah.
I think it might be null. And final question in Dragon
Knights mailbag comes from WendyWendy, Wendy Wendy Wendy Wendy
(54:07):
she says hi Jed, Ben and Finn don't actually knew you guys
were in a beer but she did and she said who is your favourite
human character from the Pokémonanime and why?
What about you guys? Who's your favourite from the
From Pokémon anime for? Me.
It's James, James, James James. Just simply because of that, how
he pronounces James in that songis so unique and alluring as
(54:31):
well. This is like James and you're
like, oh, OK, fair enough. He's he means business.
That's pretty much why that's I've got no other story other
than the fact that I like the way he says James.
I'm going to go on the nose and say Ash himself.
Ash. Your favourite character?
Yeah, this is the namesake, and he is the epitome of Pokémon.
(54:52):
Yeah, Ash is Ash is Ash is my favourite human character as
well. But I do like, I do like Team
Rocket. I know.
I think you are Ben, to be fair,but I never really was when I
was a kid, although my brother really likes her.
I know I never really liked Misty as a kid.
I found her that she was like too bossy, like a bossy girl
character. Yeah, but a lot of people like
Misty. I I like Misty.
My my cat is actually named Misty.
(55:14):
Oh, and after Misty from the show, yes.
Misty is just as sassy. Misty is just as sassy.
Is it a water type cat? Yes.
Spits at you all the time. That was the questions this
week. Don't forget, if you want to
send in a question, you can do on the socials at Yeet a Mania
(55:34):
or drop a comment on the Spotifyor Apple Podcasts page.
You can put a comment on there or read it or something.
We can send an e-mail and you can send that to
yeetamania@gmail.com. That about brings us to the end
of this week's show. So the last thing I'd just like
to ask both of you is a a Pokémon life lesson.
So if there's anything from Pokémon that you think can we
(55:57):
can learn from Pokémon and and relate to our everyday lives
from from watching Pokémon like resonates with you or or do you
think you could relate to to everyday life?
I think and never given up on your dreams and if you want to
one day be the very best at whatever it is that you're
(56:18):
aiming and striving towards, keep at it and you will get
there eventually. Yeah, that's a good one.
Because Ash didn't. He never gave up really, did he?
He? But he wasn't deterred by the
many battles that he lost and the tournaments that he lost, so
he stuck at it. My life lesson?
Never try to make your pets fight each other.
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That's. True.
That's that's I've yeah, we didn't.
Well, the only pets we had growing up was a hamster and I
remember trying to act like he was my Pokémon and I sent it.
Luckily I didn't ever put him ina ball but like I used to send.
Him in a ball used to hamster used.
To send. Yeah, true.
Go hamster. But yeah, I used to send him out
(57:00):
and act like he was my Pokémon, but if I had another hamster at
the same time, 100% I'd make himbattle each other as a child and
that would not have gone well that.
'D be like to eradicate. Yeah, exactly.
But that's my life lesson is don't.
You learnt that from your book Models you're Telling others.
I learnt it and I'm telling it to everyone else.
Do not make your pets fight eachother because it will end badly.
Hamster versus goldfish. Currently we have two cats and
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they do fight each other, but I am not involved in that.
No, I'm not. I'm supporter of it.
I'm actually quite offended by it.
OK, so I just want to say thank you both for being on show, Finn
and Ben, and genuinely thank youfor your support in doing it
with friends. So I always feel sometimes I'm
like saying this bit and it's like, oh, I know you guys, but
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you know me as well and this Peak Up House podcast and all
that type of stuff. It wasn't supposed to really
grow into anything. People have been really kind and
supportive and it's mostly been my friends and family who've
listened show and I genuinely mean that.
It means a lot to me. So thank you very much and thank
you for being a guest on the show.
Do you want to come back anotherday?
Yeah. Why not?
Yeah, definitely. Yes.
OK. Well, thanks, I don't.
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Have to do the rap thing again because that was terrible.
Well, who? Knows yeah, it'll get.
Me off every time. Yeah, your bag just had three
meals. Yeah.
At least I didn't have to rap because.
I thought you were going to say,oh, karaoke.
Yeah, OK. Karaoke, karaoke, karaoke,
karaoke. And that brings.
Us to the end of this week's show.
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Is there anything you guys like to promote?
You've got socials or anything you want to shout out?
You've got to call one of your Pokémon cards and stuff.
Where can people find that? That is Jimmy Llenev on
Instagram I'll put a link to. It on, on the immediate ones,
yeah. No, so obviously for for myself
and Jed, we'll. Do a stream on twitch called no
crumbs gamers. We we don't usually play actual
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games, but we do play like mini games inside of there like would
you rank or, or what is this andall that sort of stuff.
And it's a bit fun, but we do every single week.
So if you want to tune in there,just search.
No crumbs, game isn't twitch. Thank you very much.
OK, thanks again, guys. That's the end of this.
Week's podcast and you know whatthat means?
The time has come. We're not going to join you in
that song. The time has come.
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It's for the best. I know where.
Who could have guessed that? You.
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Somehow, someway, we'd. Have to say good.
Somehow, someway, we'd have to say goodbye.
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo. Somehow today we have to say
goodbye. Thanks Peter Powers for
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listening to today's. Episode It was a special guest
episode with my friends Ben and Finn.
A lot of fun recording that and chatting about our Pokémon
memories, and I'm sure that Ben and Finn will return as future
guests. Don't forget if you've enjoyed
the Peter Powers Podcast to leave a review and a rating on
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And also send the podcast to someone who you think might
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of Pokémon, same questions, suggestions, complaints,
corrections, anything you feel like, to my e-mail address,
yeetamania@gmail.com, just to say once.
Again, about my pika. Powers Unite fundraiser Along
with the podcast, I'm deciding to raise money for a good cause
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which is my local mental health charity Mind in Somerset.
All the details are in the episode description and any
donation of any size is massively appreciated and will
go directly to Mind in Somerset supporting the great work that
they do. So that's it.
That was today's episode. My chat with Ben and Finn.
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Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for listening.
I've been Jed, this has been thePeeka Pals Podcast, and you've
been a real Peeka pal.