How to Trade Perps with G.Trade

Join PondTalk host Blew (@BlewApu ) for an insightful session with the team from Gains Network (@GainsNetwork_io ), a decentralized leveraged trading platform. They dive into perpetual futures (perps), DeFi trading strategies, synthetic assets, and how Gains empowers users with low-fee, high-leverage opportunities on crypto, forex, and more. Mixing frog memes, practical crypto tips, and thoughts on financial autonomy and community-driven innovation – explained simply for beginners exploring digital finance or experienced traders. No overload of tech terms, just real, engaging talks on trading, culture, and beyond. $APU spirit throughout! Not financial advice. Listen for actionable insights and fun vibes.

Episode Transcript

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good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome back to a
brand new episode of pawn talk. My name is blue I'm the host of
pawn talk. This is the fastest growing
crypto memecoin talk show that reinvests in the communities
that you and I both live with metoday as the producer of the
show. I have none other than Tim at
Tim the Proton and the director for the show, of course, being
LFG Triple O at the same name. Today's a podcast is going to be

(00:41):
one that's I think overdue. I've always, I've always wanted
and, and the show was always designed to be one that
introduces people to new concepts and makes crypto more
accessible. So we're going to get into
something that even I, I don't understand it, it's still, it's
still new to me. I don't really get it.
I mean, I have concepts of an idea of what it is, but just not

(01:03):
yet where it needs to be. We're going to solve that.
Today. It ends today, the uncertainty
ends, and today we figure out for sure what the hell leverage
is. How does it work?
What does it even mean? What does it even mean and how
does it work? We're going to get into all
that. We have really a great, great
cast here today, great panel members from G Trade.
I'm going to go ahead and just bring them up.
Please welcome. We have Vishnuki.

(01:25):
All right, I think that's how it's pronounced.
And Brian from G Trade. Gentlemen, thanks for joining me
today. How are you?
Hello doing well. Perfect good.
So I guess the first the first thing is before we get into I
love, I love your little duck there.
What is the Brian? What is the duck for?

(01:46):
OK, Are you ready? Are you sitting down?
I'm. Yeah, I'm, I'm seated.
This is a hand warmer. They are real plushies that
exist and you stick your hand inthe mouth and you use your mouse
inside the hand warmer and that is what my PFP is, a
representation of the hand warmer drawn by Vesnewski
himself. Wow.

(02:10):
I, I I. See, you don't get it.
You could put a gun to my head, I would have never guessed you.
Know oh people, people don't understand when they see them in
person. Well, we know a thing or two
about plushies here in the APU community.
God bless you. Yeah.
So this Vess you and you like tobe called Vess, right?

(02:30):
Yeah, or your key. I mean, that's the easiest to
pronounce. So yeah, let's go with with
Vess. Vesnuski.
Vesnuski. But yeah, it's your choice.
You. You tell me.
What's? No, You, you tell me.
What do you prefer, Vesnuski? I can do Vesnuski.
Yeah, OK, let's let's try Vesnuski for this one.

(02:51):
Formal. Yeah, the formal Vesnuski.
You drew that. Yeah, I drew, actually I drew
both of these. Wow.
But yeah, so I mean the the handwarmer like that would require
maybe like like an episode of its own to get.
To make sure I didn't realize there was so much.

(03:13):
It's a little. Lower.
Yeah, wow. OK, well, let's let's start with
the with the very first thing before we get into how what all
this is. If we could just start, if we
could just do a brief, A brief intro.
Brian will start with you and then Vasnushki will go to you.
Tell us a little bit about yourself and and how you got
into crypto and what you're doing now.
Oh boy. OK, so got into crypto 2019,

(03:37):
Bitcoin doing its thing, all that stuff.
Got into the basics got into thethe vanilla cryptos, but I'm a
techie at heart. I love it you know in for the
tech I got into Ledger's got into D5, got into Uniswap was
trading on uniswap within shortly after its launch, just
getting more involved and then you know 4 Chan slash biz.
Let's not go there anymore. But that's where I found G Trade

(04:01):
and a couple other products. So I spiraled out from there.
I just became a embedded community member.
I would never shut up in the chat.
Much like Slap, I am constantly in the chat just stirring up
everything. And yeah, so that became a job
offer at some point for G Trade.So I left my former life behind

(04:22):
and jumped head first into crypto.
And yeah, that's basically it ina very short nutshell.
You shit posted yourself into a career.
I did. It is absolutely 100% true and I
I left my professional career asa nurse behind.
That's amazing. That's really awesome.
And So what exactly do you do atyou trade?

(04:42):
I'm part of the marketing team, community focused, and I've just
been hanging out with community,making memes, making content,
making content on the X and we share some responsibilities
there and then spreading out to the smaller venues like
Barcaster, Twitter. We run our own super mega
streaming show with me, Invest, which actually starts tomorrow,
every two weeks. So those kind of things.

(05:03):
Community keep Keeping the community happy is the main job.
Awesome. Yeah.
Well, that's that's not, that's the job that is the most that's
the most challenging thing. OK, awesome, terrific.
And Vysnewski, tell us a little bit about yourself and, and, and
what you're doing now. Yeah.
So I can't remember like when I when I first got into crypto
like for the first time, but it really took off I think like in

(05:28):
2021. I think with actually this is a
topic maybe we can go into further later, but with like the
Binance shit coin to see, you know, thing that's like where it
really started for me. And then yeah, then I found G
trade. Then I like because I, I didn't

(05:51):
know what leverage trading was aside from, you know, like,
yeah, I, I had seen an unfortunate like moo moo and Boo
Boo Boo, I think. Bobo the the Bear Bobo.
Yeah, Bobo. Sorry, I would love Bobo.
Yeah. And I was like, OK, this this

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actually like represents something.
But then I found G trade and I was like, OK, this is this is
genius. I'll sell like everything I have
and buy like FOMO into G trade. And then I started to draw like
this, this character that I haveas a profile picture.

(06:34):
And then it sort of got adopted as a mascot alongside with
Brian's. And now I'm doing like create
creative direction, graphic design.
And yeah, as Brian mentioned, I'm also in the marketing team.

(06:55):
But I also do like, because I'm,I'm a, I'm a front end
developer. I was, I was going to do that
like, you know, in real life with the enormous and stuff, but
somehow I, yeah, it just wasn't for me.
So that's why I'm here. So yeah, I I also help out with
like support when something goeswrong with the platform, do some

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like back end development and yeah.
Very cool. Very cool.
Awesome. OK, it was again.
It's very. It's very nice to have both of
you here. Let's start with this.
OK, the very, the very, I guess the very basics.
What is leverage trading? You know, let's start at A at a

(07:42):
first grade level, OK? Like if you're talking to like
an 8 year old or something. This is perfect.
So well I'm I'm like basically an 8 year old so the technical
details of leverage are a littlehard for me so I had to break it
down like this. You're basically amplifying the
size of your trade by borrowing money from someone else, and if

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you get too aggressive you mightlose all your money.
If you get it right, you might gain a lot more money than you
otherwise would have had. So you do have to give what you
borrowed back, but you keep the extra.
If you got a good trade in, you keep the top.
So it's just amplification of your buying power or you're,

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you're shorting an asset or yourlonging an asset, you're, you're
believing it's going to go up ordown.
You bet on that direction. You borrow a bit of money from
the exchange, multiply it by however much you want 1.1500 X
we've got multiple options, anything in between.
And just pray, pray that your trade goes the right direction.
And when you close your trade, you give the house money back,

(08:47):
but you keep the extra if you got the the direction right.
If you didn't, you give all yourmoney to the house or a portion
of your money. There are more advanced stuff
behind, of course. Where?
Where does the extra come from? So when you're basically, let's
say you've got 10 bucks, you, you want to go at 100 X
leverage, you're borrowing the rest of that from the G trade

(09:10):
vaults, right? And then it counts your position
as the whole, you know, the whole enchilada.
So Bitcoin goes up by $2000, youget that percentage of cut and
then you close it out and you give the borrowed money back.
You keep your collateral, you keep your your excess.
So it's all coming from a vault basically that G trade maintains

(09:31):
it, pulls it out for your trade,puts it back and maybe maybe you
didn't go right, maybe your trade got liquidated and all
your money goes back to the vault and some fees.
I guess I guess my question is this if so.
So if I want to long something Ido it at 100 X.
It goes up by a dollar. My my proceeds OK are $100.

(09:55):
Whatever. Oh, I'll Invesco.
Yeah, I mean it kind of depends on on the price of of the token
like like you know, some, some tokens like other have, I don't
I don't know what obvious now, but it's like in the hundreds of
dollars or something. But then you also have, you

(10:17):
know, smaller ones that are like1 token, it's like 18 decimals
and then like a 1. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it depends on it more dependson like the percentage.
But I, I mean, I like to see it as like swing, swing trading.

(10:39):
Like if you, if you think something is going to pump, for
example, like if you're really bullish on something, you know,
you would, you would buy the token.
But, and this, this only applieslike if you're longing, like,
yeah. So then you can amplify that by,

(11:01):
yeah, using leverage. And then let's say that you, if
you had just bought the token, you know, like norm, like
normally, then you could just sell it and you would get, you
know, the profits. Right, right.
But my question, my question is if I understand the mechanics
correctly. Put percentages aside for a

(11:21):
second. Let's work with with numbers.
If I buy a coin with A100X leverage, that means that I'm
getting whatever the profit is. It's times 100, right?
I don't know. I yeah, I, I think, I think it's
like that or Brian, do you have?Do you have?

(11:42):
No. So let's say you got a coin
that's the $2.00. You go, you know, at 100 X 2 *
100, your $200 bet, right So you're borrowing from us to get
to that $200, right? So the coin goes to $3.00.
You have $300. You close your trade, you're

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giving us back our $200. We let you borrow and you're
keeping the extra minus your starting position, right So
you're keeping the 100. So it goes back I'm.
Amplifying my trade, not my proceeds.
Yes, yes, although. If I were to buy, if I, if we,
you said $2.00, if I were to putup 100, I I think it might be
the same thing actually, becausethen I get, I get $100 back.

(12:25):
Is that what you said? After you close, after you close
it, of course, you're starting collateral, right?
You, you have, you know, you, you put down to you do 2 * 100,
whatever you'd get 200. Excuse me?
You get $102.00 back, basically something like that.
That's, it's not the right math,but idea sounds like Yeah, Yeah.
I'm sorry. OK, So you're, you're not

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keeping the whole house's money if you win, right?
You're just amplifying that as if you had 200 more tokens or
100 more tokens rather because you used 100X.
So at the end of that trade, youclose it out, you're giving us
back our money, but you keep theextra on top.
And for this model to run, it has to have losers, right?

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So you might win a trade and getyour your trade in the positive.
Others on the opposite side to say people are shorting the
token, got it wrong, they forfeit their position to the
house, right? So this model is kind of a give
and take. The house borrows, the house
lends money, but it can also take your money if your position

(13:29):
is liquidated. So again, yes, it's just
amplifying the trade. And whichever direction you
choose, that's the direction youchoose.
If the market moves against you,then the house wins.
If the market moves in your favor, you win against the
house. We give you a little bit of that
vault that you borrowed and you get to keep that plus your your

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trade. OK, I think I understand.
I think I understand you sounds powerful, but it also sounds
scary and it seems like it seemsto me you know when it goes the
so when you're shorting, that seems a little bit more complex

(14:10):
to me as to how you guys make money on that.
Well, again, if the the collateral that you put down you
short something and then the trade goes the opposite
direction, it goes, goes higher in price, your trades gone and
some of that's going to go to the the house.
OK, so, so let me put, let me solet me understand this.
So when you're amplifying the trade on a short, if it goes

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down a a tiny percentage, that could wipe you out.
Well, short is down on the price, so if the price.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, if it goes up a tiny
percentage, it can wipe you out.It can't.
And but if you're using 1.1 leverage, right, yeah, it would.
It would hurt more. Obviously if you're holding
spot, then you know you'd get tokeep your coins minus the value

(14:55):
loss, right? You're holding them in spot.
But if you'd use leverage and use typically too much leverage,
you won't have anything at all. If you don't put stop losses, if
you just let the trade ride and the trade moves against you, you
can lose your entire collateral.OK.
So, so here's a question. So OK, now I now I'm
understanding this. So, so this guy has my favorite

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name. He goes the name, his name is B
Boobing Bobby A100X leverage a 1% move in the wrong direction
liquidates you. That's how you guys make your
money because I've only lost in theory 1%, but you guys take it
all. And so that's how on a, on,
that's how it works for you. Yeah, if that's what you, if you
want to put it at 100 X, like weoffer that, we offer up to 500X,

(15:38):
we offer 1000 X on 4X since they're a little slower markets,
right? So it's up to the trader to
determine their risk. Now, do we have some guys that
use it like a casino? Absolutely we do.
But then you have other traders who are more meticulous and
methodical, they'll put in $10,000 position, actual real
dollars. USDC has something like 3X

(15:59):
leverage because they believe Ethereum is going to go and hit,
you know, 4800. So then they'll carry those
trades through and once we get to 4700 like we just did,
they'll close out. They'll have 30,000 in profit,
right? Like it's, it's a tool, it's
dangerous if you're in the wrongmindset and you don't have, you

(16:20):
know, it. It could be a gamble if you want
it to be, or it can be a very potent tool to amplify.
Your mind, I mean, that's what it is, right?
It all has to do with confidence, true, Shroom asks.
Would would the house not be incentivized to trade against
users to make more money? It's a question.
What would you have to say aboutthat?
That's something where we have some we try to be fair as we

(16:44):
can't be right. The house has to have a slight
edge in order to function. If there's no edge, G trade or
any perp decks fails, falls apart, gets, you know,
bankrupted basically. So there is a slight edge we
have spread on tokens, which kind of puts you a little below
your entry. Other tokens like BTC, ETH, they

(17:05):
have no spread, right? So they're more fair.
And all that kind of amounts to is that we're trying to protect
the vault, keep it alive, keep it growing and let other traders
trade in the future, right, Because we don't want to be
completely emptied out and just a non functional broken decks
closed at close shop. So yeah, there is always going

(17:26):
to be an edge in all perp Dexes.But I think one of the bigger
edges is that traders themselves, even if things are
perfectly even like on BTC and ETH where you have no spread,
just a small fee for the actual,for the actual entry and exit,
then those markets still people,people still trip on themselves
and throw down at 150200500X andthey wipe themselves out.

(17:49):
So there is some house edge, butI think traders in general are
just sometimes they get a littlecrazy I guess you could say.
And they they are their own worst enemy and they become our
edge. Wow, OK, well, that was a lot
simpler than I think you guys. You explained that pretty fairly

(18:10):
well. Actually.
I, I didn't, I, I either either I'm not as dumb as I thought I
was or you're a really good teacher.
That seems to have made a lot ofsense.
We have a we have one of one of my favorite memesters of the FBX
community. Solace is in here saying stop
trading and believe in something, which is funny and
we'll get into that. We get into that.
But before, before we even, you know, I'm happy we got, we got

(18:32):
the answer out of the way what leverage trading is and how it
works. What I really like about your
platform, I was looking at it earlier, is that it seems really
friendly to new people, people who have 0 experience.
What is that an intentional thing?
Or I mean, do you guys think G trade, does D trade position
itself as sort of like an entry point for newer people?

(18:53):
Yeah. So like for one thing, like our
front end team is, yeah, they are operating on like an
incredible cadence. And sometimes someone suggests
like an improvement or like, youknow, has a question and and it
will be like live within the hour like in some cases.

(19:14):
But we are trying like we are trying to like communicate a lot
with like the traders on the platform.
And then we like value that and do a lot of, you know, testing
as to, you know, what, what's the maybe the pain points of
people. So we that's for example, like

(19:36):
here you can you can click on like if you're new to crypto,
then you we'll help you. We'll help you like on board
from wherever. Yeah, get your wallet set up and
then, yeah, start trading. And there's of course, you know,
like tutorials and stuff on the website.

(19:59):
But yeah, it's it's really. It really comes down to like
listening to traders and asking them like what they want.
And, you know, like I, as I said, like I do a lot of
support. So yeah, it's, it's it's quite
easy to tell, like, OK, this this seems to be a question that

(20:21):
a lot of people are asking. So then we, you know, we do
something about that too. Yeah.
To make it smoother. Yeah.
It's like it feels a little bit a little bit more sophisticated
than Robin Hood, but if I had todescribe it, it, it feels like
the Robin Hood of crypto trading.
It almost is what it feels like.Yeah, I know, I know.

(20:45):
I'm not realist, Robin Hood. Either by like there's but yeah,
we I used to place trades on thefive minute markets on BNB back
in the day. And if that if y'all have any
reference to that, it was basically, you know, long or
shorting an asset and if 5 minutes erupted or 5 minutes
elapsed, they would get liquidated or you'd get the
profit from from the trade rightif it went against your for you.

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But that's a little too simplistic.
G Trade was a good entry for me because it was my first
experience with leverage tradingand I could get it.
I could put in a trade if I justused the vanilla settings, 5X
leverage. I put down my $200 because
that's the kind of trader I am. I'm not one of these big guys I
can get, and it's visually on the screen for me.

(21:28):
I can see my trade. I can see my positive PNL or my
negative PNL. And that's just the bare basics.
Super simple, super easy to use,but there's some others that I,
I, I think the UIUX on some others like just needed more
polished. I thought G trade, even back
when it was less polished, was easy entry into leverage and I

(21:49):
got it and I'm not a premier leverage finance trader, right.
So it was easy for me to use andI like it.
Some of the other Dexes look like Windows 95 years back.
So this looked a lot better. And, and that's part of the
reason I invested in it too. So they did a good job on the
front end. Yeah, no, as I know Vesnushki,

(22:09):
you know, said he's a front end developer.
It's, it's, I know this shouldn't matter, but it does
feel very smooth. It feels very intuitive.
It's it, it, it feels almost easy, which is, which is
actually somewhat, I mean, it's very impressive, but it's almost
somewhat misleading because thisis not an easy thing at all.
I mean, trading is not, is not easy.
This is not an easy thing. Yeah.

(22:30):
So yeah, just just to clarify, like I don't work as a front end
developer at G trade, but yeah, I, I am a front end developer,
but yeah, so yeah, as I said, like our and this is not me just
being biased like our front end team is yeah, they are amazing.

(22:53):
They they yeah, they make sure to make like the experience as
smooth as possible. Yeah, everything from like tool
tips to making the bundle size smaller like by tweaking some
SVG or Yeah. Know what a bundle size is?

(23:16):
Do you use the size of the website?
No, it's just gonna. Yeah, it's like the size of the
website when your browser downloads it.
Right. Take your word for it.
Do you guys do you guys when? What is your familiarity with
APU? How did you guys come across
APU? Do you?

(23:37):
Mean. Yeah, do you?
Mean the? Do you mean the token or the?
Yeah. Both.
Both. So should I go first or yeah.
You can go ahead. So, yeah, so for me, like I've
always been on 4 Chan for a verylong time.

(24:01):
So yeah, so I guess that's whereI first like discovered it.
But then as I said, like initially, like in 2021 there
was like, yeah, Finance Smart Chain was basically the place
for like, I don't want to say shit coins, but that's basically

(24:23):
what they called it. Like, yeah, I don't know, meme
coins is is a better word. And obviously there there were
some that like had a poo as a asa like mascot.
So I joined some of them and I like drew some who memes and

(24:47):
stuff like that. And yeah, I mean, to be honest,
like it's it's probably like my fav favorite memes of of yeah,
of all times. It's it's such an like, I don't
know, it's such an embodiment of, I guess a lot of people in
crypto and a lot of people outside of crypto.

(25:07):
But you know, I don't know, I don't know if it's a good thing
or a bad thing, but I can relateto to a poo.
Yeah. And it always makes me laugh.
I don't know why. Like it doesn't really matter
what the context is. Or like if if I see a poo in
there, it almost puts a smile onmy face.

(25:32):
Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm the same way.
It's there's something about him, something about that little
frog. He's so funny, He's innocent,
he's cute and he's, he reminds me a little, this is going to
sound weird, but he reminds me alittle bit of like Michael
Scott, If you've ever watched the office, just because he's

(25:52):
like, he's always depicted as having like good intentions and
he's trying to do something and then it always just goes wrong,
you know, but he's always trying.
And I think that's, I think thatreally captures his, his
essence. I, I, I love, I love it as well.
Brian. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
No, it's just I was just going to say, imagine if someone made

(26:13):
like like a a cartoon version ofthe of the office with APU and
yeah and friends 100. Percent would be amazing.
I TuneIn. Oh yeah, and it's a matter of
time. The the APU media sphere is, I
think, guaranteed to happen. I think it's if not or it's when

(26:34):
not if. The media empire's coming.
No, I I believe it. Yeah, So my APU journey, yeah,
that's I encountered him on 4 Chan.
I knew that was a token a while back.
I didn't buy in until suddenly our BD guy says, hey, he burst
into the door, kicks it open, kicks it wide open.
We've got a BD deal with APU andI had to, you know, jump into

(26:56):
the telegram, get to know some of these people.
Unfortunately, Adriana got to see Slap, got to see, you know,
Zizu, he's a, he's a big helper,treated me very nice and got me
on boarded with the group and bought the token.
Got got the Pete, got the NFT aswell.
Got my, got myself a nice littleAPU NFT somewhere in my wallet.

(27:17):
Yeah. So really just been kind of in
there because we struck a deal with the APU community like APU
leadership. And we have a basically if you
trade APU on G trade, you, you send 15% of the fees to the, how
do you say it? The grand, the, the high
council, High council, yes. So, so if you're trading APU on

(27:38):
G trade, and I believe this, no,don't hurt, don't, don't crucify
me if I'm incorrect, but the trade should the, the deal
should still be on anybody trading on there.
You're going to accrue some value for the high council, and
that will occasionally, every quarter or whatever, when it
reaches a certain threshold, we send it over to the high Council
as as part of the partnership. So yeah, I loved the community.

(27:59):
You guys are really cool princesses who slap all those,
all those regulars in there are pretty funny.
And you know what? Every time I come back, it's
always Adriana. It's always, she's never asleep.
I don't know what's going on there, but I'm going to find out
and I'm going to reveal the secrets.

(28:21):
OK. Bullish sounded a little creepy.
Send it. No.
OK, let me take. Adrian as a bot.
You, I think there there is goodargument to be made that all of
us are just AIS of 5G, that we are all the manifestations of
5G5G is the like central AI and we are all just bugs.

(28:43):
We are all just mutations of that AI that's been that is a
theory of the Internet. We are all just 5G.
I love the radiation anymore. Yeah, you know, go disprove
that. Good luck with that.
Let me ask you this though. You know, we're seeing, we're
watching in real time in crypto as cultures move away from
trading. I mean, there's a there's a

(29:03):
pretty big movement. I don't know if you've heard of
stop trading and believe in something.
Are people still able to use your platform to buy and hold
these these coins as well? You know, you're just yeah, it's
not actually holding, but I'll let, I'll let Bess explain it.
It's not actually holding them. Yeah, so maybe maybe this makes

(29:24):
it even more complicated, but ifsomeone asks me like, how does
the platform work? Like because you're not actually
like borrowing the token. Like if, if you're opening a
trade, then we're not buying thetoken for you because it's all
like it's all synthetic, which means that we have a number of

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like tokens, like mostly stable coins like USCC that you can use
for collateral. And so, so you don't have to
like buy the specific token thatyou want, long or short.
So the way I like to describe itis that it's basically like a
simulation where you bet on likethe price is going to go up or

(30:12):
going to go down. And there's like there's no
interaction like that direct interaction with like the
underlying token. That's yeah, that's usually how
I describe it. And that's also like how we are
able to, because one of, I guesslike one of our main selling
points, if not the main selling point is that we are able to

(30:35):
list like any token without building, you know, liquidity
for that specific token. So we are we're yeah, we're able
to like list tokens very quicklyand we're able to list, you
know, almost anything like if there's a price price feed for

(30:56):
it, like we can list, you know, anything from soybeans to meme
coins to if some it like if chain link makes some, you know,
reliable price feed for, I don'tknow, like the chances of.
The Big Mac. Yeah, yeah, something like that
or like the the chances of therebeing like in a poo, The Office,

(31:20):
a crossover remake. We could, you could leverage
trade that as well. Yeah.
If there's a price fee for it, we can put it on there.
So it's essentially A betting website.
Yeah. That's like, like that's how I
like to describe it because, yeah, because a lot of other
websites, they have to, you know, build liquidity for the

(31:40):
pair that they are listing so that people are actually buying
the token with, you know, the borrowed part.
But for us, it's more like, yeah, it's a, it's a batting
simulation is how I like to describe it.
Yeah. If we had anime girl horses that

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would just be icing on the cake.But we don't, so we just have
price feeds and those are sexy enough.
You get enough price feeds for something and we can list it
like that said. Yeah.
What? But you don't know about the you
don't know about the anime horseracing betting.
No. I don't even, I don't even know

(32:20):
the name. I'm maybe I'm too deep here.
Maybe I'm just too deep. I'm so deep.
But I've seen there's some kind of betting website with anime
girls that are representing horses and people are betting on
it. So if anybody in the chat knows
what exactly what that is, please post the link.
I would like to find out and andagain prove that I'm not crazy.
Please, please help me. Oh.
My gosh. Yeah, but that it's real.
It's a real thing. So I know our our guy Max in our

(32:44):
chat knows about it. So Max, if you're listening,
please help me. But yeah, I'm not crazy.
We have. We're crazy.
Where have we gone as a society and where did we go wrong?
And how did we go back? I'll listen more on podcast.
No, I'm kidding. OK.
Before we went live, Brian, you told me that you were someone

(33:04):
shot you. This is correct.
I had someone stick a gun in my face not too long ago and my
experience with the with the police was just disgusting.
But I'm curious they didn't actually shoot me.
Tell us more about how you got shot.
It's it's exciting, but it's also kind of lame.

(33:25):
But it's exciting. So there was my own business at
the gun range. My cousin had a 12 gauge
shotgun. He had slugs.
Slugs are one big shotgun bullet.
Basically he shot a steel targetand the shotgun slug ricocheted
a portion of it. Not the whole thing except my
arm would be gone. It flew through the air at a

(33:46):
high velocity and ripped throughmy left shoulder and went to the
back of my scapula. I I may or may not have deserved
it as the following data says, but all I know is that I
continue to meme from the hospital bed.
I drove myself with one arm because I didn't want to pay the
amber lamps and about 30 minute drive to the hospital.

(34:07):
Got there, kept memeing, took pictures of my my Boo Boo for my
G trade community. Went home with some Tylenol
because I'm a Texan, Dang it. And I went to work the next day.
So if I had to describe the painof getting shot, it is I take a
ball peen hammer, which is a round hammer on the, you know,

(34:28):
the tip is round and just have someone swing it and hit your
shoulder as hard as they can. And that's really what it felt
like for about 10 minutes. It just my whole left arm was
numb. So Adriana can help.
No, you can't. You cannot help me.
It hurts, but I'm better now. I'm.
So hold on, did I get this rightor did you just you shot

(34:49):
yourself? No, a relative shot with his
ricochet. Yeah, no, I didn't shoot myself.
I missed that part. I was like.
That would be way too embarrassing.
OK, so you you're you're shot bya relative.
Did you sue? No, no.
Family's not going to sue family.
I just no. Insurance Insurance.
I didn't even get a hospital bill.
I don't even know what happened there.

(35:10):
So I I lucked out. They they must have messed
something up. Oh.
Either that or it's going to come in the mail tomorrow
because I mentioned it. How easily did this happen?
Three years ago. Two years ago.
I mean, who knows, but I'd I'd be surprised.
I'll just, I'll just move to a new planet.

(35:30):
I'm not paying that bill. That sounds reasonable.
Sounds reasonable to me. What I don't, I don't know how
to how to where to go from here other than to say that are are
you guys, how, how do you do youfeel that that G trade is, you
know, let me put it this way. How do you guys feel about the

(35:53):
current state of of crypto? Let's start with Viznushki.
The current state of crypto to be To be honest, I don't really
have time to follow the current state of crypto aside from stuff
that's sort of like relates to to me or like the project.

(36:17):
But I guess like now it's more like since I guess it follows
the US and the US has become more lenient with crypto.
I guess I mean stop, feel free to like stop me if I'm wrong
because as I said, I I'm not really that good at following
the news and stuff. No I.

(36:40):
Think that's right? OK, OK.
Then I'll then I'll go ahead with what I what I was planning
to say. So for me, like crypto for me,
it's like one of one of the things about it that I like
aside from the like programming part, is that you, yeah, you're

(37:03):
basically, you own your own money basically.
Like you don't, you don't risk someone blocking you from your
money. Like, and this is assuming that
you, yeah, that, you know, your,your crypto and stuff.
Yeah. And everything like that.
So, yeah, I think that it's kindof cool that people have, you

(37:28):
know, taken this in their own hands, so to speak, like almost
literally and, you know, invented this, you know, magic
Internet money that actually hasvalue and you can do stuff with
it. And then then I also, of course
love the the like the entire, yeah, the the entire because I

(37:55):
mean, obviously, obviously crypto can have you know, like
more of a use case like in sorryin yeah, in in our case, we we
like, we actually need, you know, like a Ledger for like,
yeah, the blockchain to record everything that happens and all
the trades and stuff like that. But I also think it's so cool

(38:18):
that you can just, you know, attach something to yeah, to
just, you know, like it like a hash and get people to buy it
based on, you know, for example,APU.
Like if you like APU, then you you should buy this token and
meet other people that also likepoo and decided to buy it.

(38:40):
So it's like it's really cool that you can just, you know,
invent your own currency like that and, you know, also, of
course, make a profit of it. But yeah, I think it's really
fascinating. Yeah.
Awesome. Profit never who sells, who

(39:01):
sells? I I just round trip.
I'm just here for the tech. Of course, I I do try to follow
the state of crypto. Vest is really head down and G
trade a lot of the time and that's a good thing.
I need someone to keep me in line the X realm.
I'm constantly on X everyday just posting for G trade and I
get to see some of the stuff. I don't know if I don't know if

(39:24):
crypto's evolved too much. Obviously, yeah, the US has best
mentioned is getting more lenient towards us that that's
great. Regardless of what you think of
Trump, good or bad, his laws that have come through have
helped the crypto get a little bit more legitimacy in the eyes
of banks. Hopefully we'll see less de
banking for crypto now. I personally think I could be

(39:44):
debanked if they saw some of my my altcoin wallets, because I I
would never Oh no, I can't even I I can't even show the tokens I
bought without total shame on meand my family and every
generation thereafter. But the rest of crypto, the the
big projects are getting more legitimate.
So you know, that's. That's that's progress, but the

(40:06):
same time, you know, we see the the the shit coin casino
continuing, the never ending pumped up and I think we're all
kind of bruised and battered after that episode there.
So, you know, I, I would love tosee a return to real yield
projects, projects that are actually doing things like GNS.
Of course, there's a bunch of other real yield projects that

(40:27):
are just not in the limelight, right?
You'll you'll have a team working so hard for years on a
project that actually has real yield, pays investors to hold
the the token like GNS. And then, you know, their butts
on on the market cap are kicked by mean coin X that pumps,
pumps, makes a few people rich and then dumps on everybody else

(40:48):
that comes after. So I think the space and the
investors need to mature a bit. Have a portfolio.
Yeah, you have some meme coins, have your community coins like a
poo, of course, and then your gambles.
But there are really old projects that will continue to
build year after year. And hopefully at some point that
becomes a focus of crypto again,because now that businesses are

(41:10):
moving in, I think it very well could, you know, they're going
to want to put things in their portfolios that generate
revenue. So why not gains that trade?
Why not? Why not hype, You know, even
though it's a competitor, just some really old projects out
there. And and they don't always get
the spotlight that they that they should.
That's that's my thought of the current state of crypto.

(41:31):
Look for real yield Bros. Why do you think that?
What, but what, why do you thinkit continues to thrive?
I mean, and, and is there something to be said?
What really is the difference between a person who goes to, to
a pump and dump and a person that goes to, to trade with

(41:51):
leverage? And I think there is a
difference there. But to you what?
What's the distinction in terms of the demographics and what's
the overlap? I think, I think that I think
those are both kind of thrill seeking behaviors, right?
You're going to, if you're goingto throw $10,000 on on a meme
coin that just launched on pumped out fun, you don't know
if it's going to turn into a million or just turn into
flaming inferno spiraling down to 0, right?

(42:15):
So if you're in that mindset, sure, you can use gains dot
trade for the same type of trades if you wanted to.
If you're in the mindset where 500X is exciting and you don't
care to see your money evaporateor turn into, you know,
thousands more than you put in in a heartbeat, then yeah, you
might be that kind of customer. The the overlap there, there's a
difference. You know, you have a little bit

(42:36):
more control on on gains that trade.
You can you can say I only want to lose half my money.
So if the price moves against me, I'm going to put a stop loss
at 50% and you could preserve capital, right?
But if you're that thrill seeker500X, you might you're probably
not going to put any stop losses.
You're just going to say Yolo and do it and live with the
results. And that might be the same kind

(42:56):
of mindset of people that snipe,snipe all coins or, or new, new
pumped up funds or bumped up funds, right?
It might be the same people, same thrill seekers.
But again, if you're more conservative, leverage can be a
tool for that strong amplification of gains at 3X.
There's no shame in that. And that's what our most

(43:18):
affected traders seem to do is low leverage, long time frame, a
week or two and man, they make banks.
So again, it kind of depends on who you are and what strategy
you like, your temperament, whatyou're looking for.
Let me ask you this though. Here's where I also see a
difference. Because I think there is a
difference if I I love APU, right?
I would never want to dump on mycommunity members, right?

(43:39):
I'd never want to my fellow frogs if I trade it on G trade
when I sell, so to speak. I'm not actually dumping on
anyone, am I? Yeah, I was, I was actually
going to say like, like, becausefor me, like if I, if I'm in the
community and I like the community and you know, I bought

(44:01):
the token and yada, yada, then II wouldn't, I wouldn't sell the
token either. So if I'm because since I'm
holding the token, it's more, you know, like, I don't know how
to describe it, like more emotionally attached to that
token since you actually, you know, you have the token in your
wallet. Whereas with with G trade, like

(44:27):
not that I'm not really that biga trader, but half of this
stuff, you know, I don't even know what it is like that.
I'm if I'm trading something, I just look at, you know, the the
one minute candles like and say,OK, this probably will, you
know, have like a red giant dildo going down.
So I'll put in a short and of course, for some reason it

(44:51):
always the opposite that happensto me.
But I'm not really, you know, emotionally attached to whatever
I I I open a position for on G trade.
So I think that like if you like, if you really like or
believe in the token, but then Ithink you should, you should buy
it. And yeah, as he said, like you,

(45:15):
you wouldn't, you wouldn't dump on your friends.
And yeah, I mean, I won't say noone would want it, but yeah,
there are, there are known friends also out there.
And obviously they they would dothat.
But you could also, you know. Yeah, I think, I think this is

(45:35):
like agreeing with you the the fact that you're trading on G
trade. You can get exposed to the price
action of a poo and profit off of it and you don't actually
have to sell a poo. So you put in a 3X4X long
something safer on the safer side, let it ride for the next
leg up and you'll make tons of USDC or tons of dye, whatever
collateral you put on G trade orEtherium.

(45:57):
And yeah, you'll you'll close that trade out and know a pool
was dumped on in that process because it's against synthetic.
So, OK, so, so here's, so here'sthe silver lining when I like,
on the one hand, this is trader culture, which I think the
platform in the space is moving away from them.
But on the upside, it's also kind of the safest way to engage

(46:18):
in that behavior where you're not doing it at the cost of your
friends, you're not doing it at the cost of your fellow
community members. And so if you say, hey, I have
$1000, I'm going to put 900 intothe coin and I'm going to play
around with 100. This is if you have to do that,
right? This is like the E cigarettes,
right? It's like, if you're already
going to do it, you might as well then then you might as well
do it in this way where you're not actually hurting anyone one

(46:40):
way or the other. Yeah.
And like one other use case thatI, I also wanted to.
Manage it. Hey I lost audio on Blue Bess
can you say something? Yeah.
Can you hear me? Can can you hear me Blue?
Uh oh, yeah, I can hear you. I can hear this initially.
OK, so let's just wait. No, you're good.

(47:01):
I'm gonna tell Brian to reset. OK, yeah.
So let's say that you have, you have a thought, you know, that
you're gonna get like a paycheckof, I don't know, like $1000 or
whatever at the end of the week.And you're like, yeah, I'm, I'm
so happy because I'm, I'm going to buy more the pool.

(47:22):
But then when, when the, when you get the paycheck, like the
market is in, you know, turmoil or whatever and everything is
going down and you still want tobuy a pool.
But you're like, OK, maybe I should, maybe I should wait a
bit because I think the entire market is going to crash even
more than and this is not financial advice, of course, but

(47:45):
you could put in a short on it doesn't even have to be a pool,
like it could be anything. And you would sort of like hedge
your a pool bag by putting in that short.
And if you were right and you know, everything crashed and you
made 100% profit, then you have $2000.

(48:05):
And also the price of a pool is cheaper, so you kind of like you
can sort of like double dip because now we have even more
money and APU is cheaper. So you can buy more APU and get
more APU, right by doing that? Wow, OK, so that's the for me,

(48:27):
for people who traders are goingto trade, right, That's the, you
can't stop them from doing what they're going to do.
But but for people who are believers, you know, if they, if
they want to dedicate a portion or if they, if they, if they're
already going to engage in this kind of stuff, best that they do
it in a way that doesn't harm their friends and, and their,
and their coin. That's, that's that I think is

(48:47):
significant because again, you know, these are these these
pumps and whatnot, they exist because it's human behavior and
this is how people behave. And so to be able to isolate
that thrill seeking desire and provide a source that doesn't
actually hurt the the community,that's something I think that's
that's very valuable. And it might even be a good sort

(49:11):
of off ramp, so to speak, for that, you know, for people to to
move away from that and have some healthier crypto behavior,
in my opinion. You know, to each their own, to
each their. Own.
Yeah, 100%. Very cool.
Brian, are you back? I am, I don't know what, I just
watched you talk and I couldn't hear a thing so I have no idea
what that last comment was but it's OK.

(49:32):
We were just saying that this islike the safest way to, if
you're going to engage in any kind of trading behavior, this
is the safest way to do it. It's like the, you know, it's
like when your parents are like,don't drink under the age, but
if you're going to do it, do it at home kind of thing.
Yeah, OK. I agree.
Trade on James trade. Safest way to do it.
Right where? Where do you see?

(49:55):
Where do you see G trade going next?
Well, they're going to continue to improve the UIUX there.
We just launched V10, which is our funding fee markets, right?
So there's going to be a large list of tokens that you can,
this is more advanced functionality of course.
But let's say you're going to hedge you, you have a lot of
Ethereum, you don't want to see your portfolio value go down,

(50:16):
you open up 10X hedge on Ethereum going down.
So it's you know, protected. If there is downside to
Ethereum, you're going to get some money.
But we have these funding fee markets now that will pay you a
portion of the traders who are longing in this case are going
to pay you the shorter to hold that position and it will
improve your liquidation point. So that's kind of like a more of

(50:39):
a really advanced or institutional portion of our
products that we offer. So, so if you have money that
needs to be hedged or you just want to farm funding fees, you
can do that at G trade. And I am not a funding fee
farmer. So please don't ask me two
advanced questions on it. But you know, again, I'm I'm the
guy and a guy that that puts $300.00 at 10 or 20X and calls

(51:02):
it a day once my position gets blown out, right?
Because that's the kind of trader I am.
But there are more advanced functions on G trade.
So I think that's that's going to get fleshed out.
And then from there, I believe we want to do a universal vault,
right? So you can trade in multiple
collaterals. But what's going to happen is
that vault A is bigger than vault B is bigger than vault C,

(51:25):
right? So you, the position size you
can open in vault A is massive. Maybe you're whale.
You can make a big position sizein vault A.
But let's say you're using Ethereum and you, you don't want
to trade with USDC, you want to trade with Ethereum as your
collateral. That vault might not be as big,
you might not be able to open upas big A position on that with
that collateral. So a unified vault system is

(51:46):
something that's been talked about.
Not sure when that's going goingto come to play, but it's on the
road map. And that would allow us to not
only unify all liquidity, let people open even bigger
positions, but in theory we'll have intrachain liquidity,
right? So we'll be able to let somebody
trade on Solana, on Arbitrim, onbase, and they're all going to
tap into one mega giga vault, which would really condense our

(52:08):
liquidity, let people open massive positions and so forth.
I see Bibu Bing Bapi says, do they offer automated delta
neutral strategies? No, but our partners may.
So yeah, they they might build on top of G trade some automated
delta neutral, but we don't offer automated delta neutrals
right now. OK.

(52:30):
I have AI have a question about well, so so that that's what
they were asking. What about?
We have a question from ZE. Do you have any updates on
Bitboy? I don't know what that's about.
Hello, did I lose you guys? I can still hear Brian.

(52:55):
This is like the worst time for.You to lose?
No, no, I know we can't. OK, I'm back.
Yeah. No, I I do have an update.
I mean, he is still incarcerated.
So let me move this here. See.
He's still under arrest. We have a little.
We have. We can check this every
Thursday. Every other Thursday.
Yeah, he's still under Resay. Can't.
Believe me if I told you, I haveno idea who that is.

(53:17):
What? When?
I saw this comment, I went into the private chat and I went what
is bit boy what he. Is a crypto influencer who was
who started from you know, nothing to become a man.
He's he's boxed Sprotto the kingSprotto.
He's he's fought Ansem he in in karate combat.

(53:41):
Of course, these are all like really lame boxing matches.
He rose to fame and then somehowhe lost it all went crazy on
stream and threatened to judge in Florida and now he's Florida
man bit boy in jail. That's and I I've met this guy
in passing, so you know it. Actually doesn't.
That doesn't surprise me. Like this is not a this is not

(54:04):
an easy space to succeed in. And what I mean by that is that
let me be, let me be fair. I actually don't think it's that
hard to stand out in this space.Maybe I'm speaking out of turn
and too soon, but I don't I think with a lot of the like
crypto fluencers or crypto influencers, it's like not that
hard to stand out. But I also think that this is a

(54:26):
space where there the environment, the atmosphere is
so toxic that the, the tax, the toll it takes on you, it's
unbearable. And if you don't have a good
community around you, if you don't have, you know, a support
system, it'll, it'll rinse you. I mean, it'll just wipe you out

(54:48):
as a person, like on a, on a spiritual level, it'll just
destroy you. That's what I've noticed.
I mean, I haven't had the problem of getting instantly
rich to let myself be spiritually destroyed, so I'll
have to get back to you on that.But if it happens, I'll be sure
to check in from Florida County Jail after I threaten judges.
I think that's the best way to go about this.

(55:09):
Yeah, true, true. All right, Well, outside of
crypto, what, what do you guys, what do you guys do for fun?
Do you, do you want to go first,Brian, or should I?
I guess. I guess I'll go first.
Well, OK, so I'm from Texas. I got shot.

(55:29):
I like to shoot my guns. Not getting shot at this time,
but I'll shoot my own guns. Got a got a few, got a few nice
pieces. I think you know, But yeah,
that's really just family, man. Just busy, busy, busy. 5 kids,
five kids. Adriana, if you're listening,
get started. You better hurry up and
repopulate your part of the world.
Yeah, it's just busy family life.

(55:51):
G trait. Very nice.
Very nice. OK.
Hey, you like guns Based. A lot of people do.
Vesnewski, what about you? Yeah, so, so for me, like I've
I've been working with like graphic design or something, you
know, like creative my whole my whole like adult life.

(56:13):
And like I think that I started like given as a child, obviously
not working, but yeah, as an interest.
But so how do I make this story not like 5 hours long?
So I decided to to study like programming, which I which was

(56:33):
also in like an interest when I was younger.
But yeah, as I said, I work mostly with like graphics and
stuff like that. And yeah, so I was, I was set
out to like start. Yeah.
Look for like a front and dev job after I graduate graduated.

(56:55):
But then as I mentioned, like crypto got a hold of me and I
started like doing more creativestuff like even though that's
what I didn't want to do becauseI wanted to do something else.
I don't know. So yeah, to make this the story
short, what I do now, like AG trade is mainly like, yes,

(57:22):
graphic design and like I make animations and 3D and like
creative directions, creative direction and stuff like that.
So to get to the actual answers to your question, what I do on
my spare time, it's actually programming because that's not
my job. That's not my job now, you know

(57:44):
so, or at least that's not really my official job.
So since no one is forcing me todo that, it becomes an interest
again. But since I'm yeah, I might be
forcing is is a bad choice of words, but I'm getting paid to
make graphics, so that's no longer an interest.

(58:08):
So then I have to yeah. Then it's sort of like, I don't
know, it loses. You can't, you can't really like
go do your in your job at your spare time as an interest.
It's sort of like, yeah, I don'tknow how to explain it.
So I mainly do programming on myfree time and like nerd autistic

(58:30):
stuff like that. And yeah, I also play with my
cats and talk to my wife and stuff like that.
Yeah. So that's that's what I do on
my. Spare time, very awesome.
Do either of you have your favorite APU memes?
What is your favorite APU memes?So I.

(58:52):
Know. Yeah.
Wet himself sitting in the corner.
Wet himself sitting in the corner.
That is the the premier APU memein my mind.
I mean, I have several like for example on my on my tresser that
I use for for a multi cig, I have you know, when a poo is

(59:13):
calling, but he's he, he has it like a banana instead of a
phone. And I have that as a background
on my tresser that I use for a multi cig.
So it it always like literally, and I'm not lying, it literally
like it always makes me smile when I sign a transaction
because I see a poo like is trying to, you know, like call

(59:35):
the smart contract and sign, youknow, whatever transaction.
So that's one of my my favorite poo memes.
But I think I have to probably think if I have to come up with
like the absolute favorite, I like the one that's like a four
part, which is like, yeah, it's like it's like 4 pains where.

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Every day I fail, but every day I try again.
Yeah, yeah, that, that one, I swear to God.
Like it's that one is never, never not going to.
Yeah, that's never not going to cheer me up.
But yeah, there are so like there are so many.
So it's it's hard to pick. But it is hard to pick.
Where do you guys go to get yourAPU memes?

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Vasnushki, you guys might not know it, but Vasnushki has quite
a few APU memes he's made. I believe some of them have been
used in the broader community. Again, not that he cares.
Yeah, he's a he's a good artist and he's Yeah.
Yeah, there's one example. I don't know.
I'll let best explain. He's he's been drawing this
stuff for a long time. Yeah.

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So, yeah. So as I said, like it's started
in 2021 for me to like really get into crypto withdrawing
stuff like memes. And there was some APU related
token and I drew. I can't remember like where the
origin is, but there's like this, I can't remember like the

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original character, but he's lying in his bed and like on his
right, there's like a computer and I don't remember what's
originally on the computer, but so I drew APU lying in the bed
like he's going to sleep and he's looking at the chart going
up. And I made that for some silly

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token on on Binance smart Chain that I don't know.
It went to like two or three million marked cap.
But then I saw that Pepe, which I mean, that's not even a poo,
but I guess they didn't care. They tweeted it on their main

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Twitter and got a lot of views from that.
But yeah, so, and I mean, maybe someone else also has made like
an approved version of that meme.
I'm not claiming that I'm like this meme genius, but it was
kind of cool, you know, like seeing because I could see that

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this was literally the one that I made because they are
corrupted in such a way that I saw like on the edge, they
cropped out like the name of thetoken, the original token.
But it's kind of cool to me to see to see it on like on Pepe
Twitter. But yeah, and I mean, I don't

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really see it as, you know, likesomeone's someone stealing a
meme or, you know, whatever because I mean, that's what
that's the purpose of memes is to be, you know, like stolen
and. And in the APU community, we
have an obligation, a response, a duty to steal memes you have.
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I mean, it's not
encourage people required. Yeah, that's a.

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That's a good rule. Exactly.
All right, let me let me ask youguys this.
What? What closing thoughts?
If you could leave the viewer with one thought, one thought
only, what would that be? Let's start with with Brian and
then Vysnewski. A closing thought, be careful,
protect your capital, don't dumpon your poo friends, don't dump
on your meme coin holds. And if you have never tried

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leverage, just dip your toes in it and use low leverage and then
you can amplify your position. Use it as a tool, don't be a
degen as much as we like it. Use leverage responsibly.
And that means being below, I would say 5X.
I'm not sure if experts would say something otherwise, but
definitely keep it low, keep it long, and use it as a tool.

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Guys, be careful. Financial advice.
Yeah, financial advice. Yeah, I I don't really have
anything except for like be niceto your friends or something
silly like that. I yeah, I don't, I don't really
have anything that pertains to like the G trade or crypto.

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But yeah, I mean, that's a solidadvice.
You should you should take. It always benefits you in the
end to be nice with your to yourfriends.
Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
Well, guys, Brian Vasnushki, I really appreciate you guys
joining me here. I, I learned a lot about
leverage trading and how it actually works.

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And I think that if I ever decide to, to play around with
it, it's going to be on a platform like G trade where,
where I can engage with it without harming my friends,
without bumping on people and, and just doing it as responsibly
as possible. I am myself more of a holder.
That is, that is my preference. But you know, if, if it ever

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arises, you know, G trade looks like a really great platform to,
to, to dip your toes into. And so thank you guys for
joining me here today. Thanks so much.
Yeah. Thank you for having us.
We love the APU community you'llhave.
You'll have the friendliest community.
It is not a meme. It's my favorite of all the
communities I've joined to show G trade to or just be part of
the community. It's it's got to be APU is my #2

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home. Well, that means a lot to us.
Thank you. Thank you.
All right. Well, you 2 have a wonderful
night or wherever it is that youare a great rest of your day and
I look forward to seeing more from both of you on the
timeline. You too have a good one guys.
Thank you all. Right, bye bye ladies and
gentlemen that was Vasnushki andBrian from G trade here on

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Pontalk, and this is Pontalk. My name is blue.
I'm the host of pontalk. This is the fastest growing
crypto min coin talk show. Your director for the night was
LFG triple O your producer it was Tim at Tim the proton.
I don't know what proton means. He never told me it was never
important, but maybe perhaps oneday we could get some
information. We have some comments, some
questions here perhaps Nope, just thanks for G trade.

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Bye bye friends. Yep, Yep, thanks for the show.
You guys are very welcome. As always.
You are the best part of pawn talk and thanks for tuning in.
We have a show to we don't have a show tomorrow.
Tomorrow is I have a, a birthday.
My family has a birthday party and so I, I will be gone
tomorrow, but we have a show on We have we have spaces.

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We have spaces with popcorn. Might you might have heard of
him. That'll be happening at 10 ish,
10:00-ish. Keep an eye out on that.
We will repost it. We will retweet it and then I
think on Friday we have something.
Tim, do we have something on Friday?
I think we do. Yeah, we have Friday.

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We have voided. Yes, yes, we have voided on
Friday. And then Saturday, let me pull
up this calendar that's so neatly arranged for you you
never look at. Calendars.
Not Saturday. Yes, Frothless.
Who has an intern now on Saturday?
Wonderful. Are we bringing the intern on?
No, the intern, the intern can be a backstage I guess, but but

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no, just frothless. Thanks.
Thanks, Tim. Appreciate that.
So that's that's what we have onSaturday, guys, stay tuned for
more. We're going to be announcing
some more things pretty soon. So stay tuned.
With that being said, have a wonderful night and take care.
Well, there's. A yeah, no, go ahead.
I was just waiting how long I was going to take.
Your test is. Going round taking names decides

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who to mean and who to blame. Everybody won't make it.
Ain't the same