PondTalk With Blew Featuring Ron in Ron's Basement, Unicorn Fart Dust

Blew and Ron discuss life from Ron's basement, as well as the history of Unicorn Fart Dust.

Episode Transcript

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Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to yet another episode
of Pawn Talk. Before we begin, you might be
wondering, Blue, why are you wearing a hat?
It doesn't look good on you. You might be thinking.
You might. You might be thinking, we miss
your hair, So do I. You might be thinking, why is
your bed not made? To that I'd say mind your own
business may be thinking many things, but the truth is I got

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my APU merch hat in the mail. I got some more things as well.
It's the special I have autism. Please be patient hat on the
back there and I'll be showing you that later.
You can get your APU merch todayat the link that I don't have
off the top of my head. I think it's merch.apu.com.
It's on the website. Go to apu.com.
That's where you can get your merch or you can go to the APU
account. But that's that's why I'm
wearing a hat. It's a great hat.

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I was wearing a different hat earlier.
Today is such a jam packed day. We had our stream earlier with
Stephon Rust. What an amazing.
I didn't even expect anything near that.
I don't know what I was expecting, but it was just, you
know, you a guy like that, you think of you might get a certain
thing, but the charisma and the energy and the, the, the
experience and the insight, it was truly amazing.

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I hope to have him back on the stream soon to continue that
discussion. That's already up.
You can watch that. I think it's already on Spotify,
Spotify and everywhere else, butit really was truly an amazing
conversation. I want to start before we even
introduce our guest for tonight,I want to say thank you to you,
the audience. It's no secret that I was
skeptical. I must admit I, like many, was

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very skeptical, but you guys changed my mind.
You guys were dedicated, you were persistent, you were kind,
you were respectful, you were everything I would want a crypto
community to be, and I recognizethat.
And this is for you guys. This is dedicated to all of you.
So thank you. Without further ado, I'd like to
introduce my guest for this afternoon.

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Really, it's going to be this evening.
Stream none other than Ron from the basement.
Ron, thank you so much for joining me tonight.
How are you? Hey Blue, I'm doing great and I
like your hat. I think it looks good on you,
Sir. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Just to start off, how are you
doing? I'm doing pretty good, you know,
it's what, 4:00 here in Saint Louis and Saturday.

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So yeah, things are going good. Things are going good with UFD
and I'm really excited and thankyou for having me on on behalf
of myself and Mike, the community, not my community, the
community of UFD. And I really like that you like
recognize the audience because Ialways say like this is I'm on
your show, it's me and you, but we're really nothing without the

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audience. And that's what's really cool
about this opportunity we have in Web 3.
Absolutely. It's, you know, what's what's
very unique about Pawn Talk, Ron, is that this is, I think
this might be the only show thatwas willed into existence by its
audience, You know, 5057 days ago.
Wow. We're on day 5657 days ago.

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My name wasn't blue. This thing didn't exist.
Yeah, but the, but the, but the,but the community decided this
is what we want. And so I'd begrudgingly accepted
this, this task they gave me. And here we are, 56 days later.
Are you doing it every day or multiple times a week?
So the stream itself is 2 to three times a week.

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Just a today it's three times a day, but it, it just depends on
what we have going on. But the project itself, it's 60
hours a week. I mean, it's, it's been an
insane, you know, the sheer, the, the scale at which we've
expanded and are growing has been in say yesterday up the
our, the token, our namesake announced our official

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partnership between between us. So it's things are just moving
really, really quickly. But yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's
the actual stream itself is onlyabout two to three times a week.
But again, we always make accommodate like we didn't plan
on having you today. This is just something that the
the two of us kind of, you know,both communities came together
to make this happen. But we're always happy to do
that. Well, I, I appreciate it.

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I have to laugh, 'cause you're, you're, you're broadcasting from
the pond and I'm broadcasting from a basement.
So only only in Web 3 right Do we get to do that?
Well, I have to say, you know, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna do
this real quick. I I looking at your background
here. Yeah, this might be the most.
The word is character. No, no, no.

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The I there's so much character.There's so much heart in in this
background. And I love it.
Is what? What's the story behind
everything behind you? You know, it's just, I guess I
could describe it as organized chaos.
I am very organized and I'm a bit of a hoarder, but I'm a
selective hoarder. So yeah, there's, you know, like
the bear. There's a bear over here on my

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right, a giant stuffed bear thatI have twin 13 year old
daughters. When there were four, we, we
paid $4.00 for him at a garage sale.
And I've been live streaming for, gosh, going on four years
now. And the bears been over there
the entire time. Yeah, everything, everything
behind me has some kind of story, a sentimental value or
something attached to it. Now, as you can see, there's a a

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lot of unicorns back there. Right.
I I love that. I love that.
I love that everything your background has meaning.
Yeah. In my background, Ron, you see
this blanket. Yes.
A few days ago, there was a stream I was doing in
preparation for The Mirage stream.
We did and it and it got cold. So I wore that blanket and and

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what they did, the members of the members of APU, one
particular one, his name is KungFu, took that photo of me in
that blanket and turned it into the Sith Lord in several Star
Wars memes that he's made now. And I think it's the funniest
thing in the world, but he's so so that's, that's the
significance of my background. That's about it.

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That's it. And then the bed.
Everyone makes fun of me for thebed.
I think they need to leave me alone about the bed.
Some some say it's made, some say it's not made.
It's not made unless you sort oftuck it in and fold it and do
like an origami type thing. I'm not in the military and I'm
not a chef and I'm not a, a, a Japanese artist.
So I'm not this is as good as it's gonna get for for me, but.

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People I think, I think, I thinkpeople in the world like when,
when things are genuine, right? Like this is, this was my
basement really before I did live streaming, it was
essentially the same way. And, you know, that's your
bedroom. And we're all real people, you
know, And I mean, I think peoplefeel a certain sense of

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connection with that, which is Ithink becoming more and more
important as more and more people around the world are
feeling disconnected in a lot ofways.
So I mean, look, when I was listening to you do your
introduction, like I immediatelyfelt like you're a professional
and like a sense of, of comfort and ease.

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And you know, that's a pretty special thing to be able to
convey to people. Oh, it means a lot, and I
appreciate that you've been doing this for four years.
I've been down here in my basement for four years.
Every day, every. Well, yeah, every day I've been
making YouTube. Yeah, I started out making
YouTube videos and then that transitioned into doing live

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streams on a daily basis, but yeah.
Four years, you know, we're, we're on day 56 and I don't, I
mean, how tell me, how did it start?
What, what, what the streaming? There's the coin and there's the
streaming. So when you initially started
streaming and making videos, what were you really doing?
It was gold and silver. I was a gold and silver and I

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still love gold and silver and Istill have my gold and silver
YouTube channel and I don't do as regular of content, but I
still do put content out on thatChannel.
But I was about 52 years old, 51years old, and I'd had a
successful career. You know, I wasn't wealthy, but
by any stretch of the imagination, but comfortable.

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And I, my twin daughters that had kind of got to this, you
know, middle school type age. And I was sitting on the couch
and I thought, well, I can either like ride off into the
sunset or I can do something. And I really wanted to do
something And, and I had been fascinated with YouTube for
years. This idea that you can in your

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basement like broadcast and thatyou have the potential for
everybody in the world to watch you and to connect with you just
really excited me. So I'm just made a decision that
I was going to make one YouTube video a day for a year.
And I knew that I would want to quit at about the 56 day mark
because it's hard work, but thenI was going to stick with it

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night I I won't be too hard on myself and say I was a quitter
earlier in my life. But over the years, what I've
learned is, you know, it's a loteasier to quit something when it
becomes hard than it is to stickwith it.
And I knew that I knew that it would get hard.
I knew that there'd be a point where I would want to give up
and that I wanted to prove to myself that I could do it

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because I really wanted to connect with people and to
provide value. So that's what I did for a year.
I mean, every single day I made a video and every single day I
tried to learn something. I read books about YouTube, I
read books I watched. You know, there's more YouTube
videos about how to make good YouTube videos.

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You know, there's A and I never paid a penny for any of it
except for the books that I bought.
I had $100 cell phone, a SamsungGalaxy S10 and I still have them
my 4 light bulbs different, you know, and, and I just created
something out of nothing. And, and so initially, yeah, it
was gold and silver. And then that led up to December

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of last year when I created Unicorn Fart Test.
Well, I want to, before we get into, to the coin, I, I want to
get into this, this, there's a, there's a reoccurring theme here
on this show that I'm, I'm starting to gather from the
guests that have come on. We had a guest not too long ago
talk about long distance runningspecifically.
I think that's because they've seen that I've been getting more
and more into the fitness journey, weight loss and I, I

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like to run. Running is my, my poison, I
guess. And one of the things they said
is that there, there's no way tocheat that, you know, it's a
marathon mentality and there's no way to cheat that.
And the guest we had earlier today, he talked about how it's
really, he talked about the suffering of being in these sort

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of projects and, and taking on these challenges and, and the
reward that comes at the end of that.
And I quoted St. Augustine that said once that
the, that patience is a process of suffering through which we
arrive at the better, which is one of my favorite quotes,
honestly, of all time, but certainly about patience and
suffering. And it's interesting because
the, the prefix or the root of the word of, of patience and

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actually means to suffer it. It actually means pain and
suffer. Same thing as passion, by the
way, same thing, but so the anyway, so so these two concepts
and so now it's interesting you bring up the YouTube, you know,
one video a day, this this is not easy.
This it hurts and it really does.
It's it's a pain. It's not it's not necessarily a
physical pain no, but it is though it is And and I think I

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don't think people talk about itoften.
I think a lot of people see the finished product at the end of
it. What they don't see is the long
nights, the the. The the times, the times where
you are trying to make a video and you shoot the same segment
like 15 times trying to make it perfect, driving yourself crazy.

(11:31):
Yeah, I know. When you're when you're
rendering and then it corrupts and then you have to start over
and. Then are you are you are you are
you didn't hit the record buttonwhen you started the biggest
interview of your of your short YouTube journey and you finish
and like, Oh my gosh, I forgot to record that.
Right. Yeah, Yeah, I once did.
I once did a whole episode before I even was in crypto.
I once did a, a, a very like a three hour long episode of

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something only to find out my mic wasn't plugged in.
Broke my heart. I took a week break after I
couldn't. I was like, you know, people,
That's the part people don't talk about.
And I I think that, yeah. Well, because anything great in
life, any great achievement involves some suffering.
That's just the reality of the situation.
Because if, if it was, if, if itwas easy, everybody would do it,

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right. I mean, I think generally
speaking, that can be said and Ithink everybody, it's easy to
start things and to think right.But then actually following
through on them. There's a book I read, I don't
know where I've got it down heresomewhere called The Gap or the
something where it talks about that.
Like no matter what it is, whether it's Med school, law
school, starting a YouTube channel, running a meme coin

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project, there are going to be times where where it's going to
be very difficult. And that's when you have to dig
deeper. I heard somebody say this once
Blue and it and it really resonated with me.
I have a little black notebook where I would write notes down
as I was on this journey. And basically what what the guy
said was the hard times, like when you're feeling burnt out,

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you can actually be grateful forthat because that's when
everybody else quits. And if you don't quit right then
you can get, you can get to the other side to that big, big
reward. Yeah, absolutely.
And, and I just think that people, I think creators should
talk about it more because I think what happens is a lot of
people get into it thinking, oh,this will be easy, I'll buy a
camera. And I've seen this so many

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times. Wrong.
People think they need the best camera.
They think they need the best microphone.
They buy, they spend $3000 on a setup, they get in front of the
camera and they realize they don't have a, a message, they
don't have a purpose that that'sto create what they're doing.
And then they're like, oh, no, Idon't get it.
And then it's hard. And, and I think that if
creators were just a little bit more honest and not just honest,
but perhaps vulnerable about thechallenges that, that it

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actually takes, I think more people when they get into it,
expecting it, they won't be defeated so early in terms of
their expectations. I just think I just like to be
honest and transparent. It's not easy, but it's you know
it's worth it. It's like, you know, watching
Tiger Woods play golf. Or Michael Jordan play
basketball, right? You see them playing, you see

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them. But if you read about those,
those individuals, they were known as being like the the
hardest practicing, most disciplined people in their
profession, right? They would stay late, practice
more than anybody else. And that's just that's what
works. And you know, it sounds like
with even on the journey you guys are on with that poo and
what I'm on with Unicorn fart dust.

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I mean, it's, it's, I think those same principles absolutely
apply. And, and the more that radiates
through the community and you'resetting an example, I guess to a
certain extent I'm setting an example for UFD that that gets,
you know, transcribed, I guess you would say under the under
the community as well. Absolutely.
What were you doing before? You know, you said you started

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this at the age of, say, 52. Is that what you said?
Yeah. What were you doing before that?
I have a degree in accounting, believe it or not, and I worked
for a BIG4 firm right out of college.
So I understand finance and math, but I hated doing
accounting as a job. I like studying it like, you
know, investing. So I actually got into the IT

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staffing business and spent almost 20 years and that and IT
for the last five years, I own my own IT executive recruiting
firm. And I also at one point I had 20
employees consultants that we'reworking around different
companies in Saint Louis. There's a lot of Fortune 500

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companies in Saint Louis. So and then honestly, I just
after a long time of doing that,I got a little burnt out on it.
And and then we had our twins and essentially I was a stay at
home dad. I mean, Susie doesn't work.
I have a still have a little like part time evening job that
I do that I can walk to from my house that gives health

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insurance because that's very important here in the United
States. And that's what kind of let up.
And then I started the YouTube channel that was, you know, very
successful because I stuck with it like we talked about earlier
and, and, and was, you know, generating a good, a good income
for the family as well. That's awesome.

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Growing up, what were the biggest influences on you in
terms of how how you stepped into your your really your
professional life? You know, I played soccer
growing up. I actually went through college.
I went, I played soccer. I don't say this very often, but
on A at A Division One school ona scholarship and probably some

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of my coaches that I had growingup, you know, that we're very
focused on of all things discipline practice, right?
Like I'm not a real naturally gifted athlete, but where I grew
up, we had a soccer field right behind our house.
Like literally I could jump the fence and the Catholic school
soccer field was there and so I could practice and we played.

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So probably those coaches, probably my parents as well.
OK. Yeah, that's terrific.
Yeah, I don't want to get poked up, but my, my, my, my dad is
very smart and very consistent, you know, and just having a good
home, family life, probably that's a lot to where I am.

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That's that's, that's, that's amazing.
And I you know, what position did you play on the field?
I I played center back. Yeah, that's what I played.
I was back in the early 90s, blue.
I think you're I was a sweeper, but they still call it sweeper.
I was the last. It's a little, it's not exactly,
but yes, the term is still used sometimes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Very cool, Very cool. Well, why soccer for you?

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What did you like about it? You know, I think I like the
free flowing nature of soccer. It's a, it's to me, it was a
sport that I naturally could understand and the creativity,
you know, you never, you know, Iguess in a lot of sports, hockey
and and and basketball have thatsame, you know, kind of aspect,

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but just the ability to kind of see things and anticipate where,
where, where things were going probably appealed to me.
Yeah, no, it's it's a the sport allows you to be creative in a
way that not many others let youpick.
Up, Yeah, yeah, I mean, the sweeper, I could go up and score
goals sometimes. I mean, it was, it was, yeah,

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it's a, it's a, it's a great sport.
Yeah. OK, so, so moving into your,
your time as a, as you know, as a professional, when you got
into YouTube, yeah. At what point did you realize
that you were we were cooking with something special, that
there was something special about what you were doing?

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Pretty early on, probably withinthe first two to three months
because I was learning. That's what I want to emphasize
to people like, you know, I was doing the work, number one, but
I was, like I said earlier, I was reading books about how to
grow YouTube channels. I was watching, I was probably
spending as much time watching videos about how to grow YouTube

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channels, how to create videos. So early on, I, I just got the
sense that things were working and growing.
And you know, the bottom line on, on YouTube and even with
what you and I are doing right now, right, like if we're not
providing value to the viewer, they're not forced to be here.
They can, they can go do something else.

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And so to me, the numbers didn'tlie.
When I could look at the number of views that I was getting, it
would tell me like, this is whatpeople like, this is where I'm
delivering value. And if I can, you know, I mean,
there's no, it's very free flowing, probably the most
creative platform in the world, in my opinion, cookbook.
But there were certain key things that I could do that

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would resonate with people and Ithink give them value.
And then I would just hone in onthat and constantly adjust as I
went along. When did you at that point, were
you aware of crypto at all or when did crypto come into the
picture? Yeah, I, I, I read a lot
extensively about crypto. In 2012 when my twin daughters
were infants, I remember sittingin their room trying to get them

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to go to sleep. And I was, I became temporarily
fascinated with Bitcoin. I'm one of those people that did
not buy it because I think it was like 10 bucks or 12 bucks.
So I always I knew about crypto,however, you know, and everybody
knows this during my time in thegold and silver YouTube channel

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world, I was, I'm going to say Ihated crypto, but I would I was
I was not a big fan of crypto. I would actually call crypto
Unicorn fart dust. So that's where the name of the
of the the meme coin came from. Now, over the course of 2024, my
stance started to soften a bit. I think I began to realize like

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this is for real and it's not going anywhere.
Although I really hadn't hadn't hadn't learned much about it at
that point. What?
You should have caught your attention, but but why exactly?
Early on, why? Well, I used to read a website
called Zero Hedge, which was kind of alternative financial

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news and they would run stories about it.
You know, I really don't know why it got it.
I can't remember back to 2012. I wish I'd bought it back then
and I wish I'd learned more about it back then because it
seems like what I learned very quickly after I launched UFD
kind of opened a whole new perspective on on crypto for me.

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For you, what's the most attractive part of crypto and
and what changed your mind exactly in 2024?
OK, so in 2024, I think just seeing that the world was
adopting crypto, that it was notgoing away.
I, I, I honestly, up until, you know, maybe 20/22/23, I thought

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this thing's going to explode. And, you know, and Bitcoin had
gone through some pretty wild price swings.
And there were times where I thought, see, I knew I was
right. It's just Unicorn fart dust.
It's going away and in 2024, especially after Trump was
elected, it became very obvious to me, I'm like, this is here to
stay. I better start to learn about it
and to accept it and and that and that's what I did.

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I'll answer your second questionbecause to me it's very, very
exciting about what what I like about crypto and what I learned
about the blockchain and crypto in general is this idea of
decentralization and the idea ofdemocratization.
And the, and not just an idea, but just the fact that it gives

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power to the people, right, to determine where value is
created. And if there's no central
authority that controls Bitcoin or APU or, or Unicorn fart dust
and, or anyone, like I don't control Unicorn fart dust.
I tell people that all the time,You know, I, I created it, yes,
no doubt about it. I'll take responsibility for

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that. But it's that this
democratization and the ability for people and groups of people
to come together and create value and, and to be able to, to
kind of chart their own course and, and to have that power, I
think is something really cool. And coincidentally that that's
the same thing that a lot of people like about.

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There's very, there's a lot of similarities with gold and
silver as well. So once I, I was guilty of
contempt prior to investigation,right.
Once I learned about it, I was like, oh, now I know what Defy
means. I hear, you know, 8 months ago,
blue, if you and I were down here and you talked about and I
met you on a on the street and you said, oh, defy be like, oh,

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he's one of those crypto guys. And I would, but I wouldn't know
what Defy really meant. And when I learned about it, I
was like, oh, that's, you know, that's why I like gold and
silver because they're decentralized finance as well.
Right. And and so, and that's brings me
to my next point is for you, what similarities do you see
between the gold and silver communities and crypto?

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And the reason why I asked specifically meme coins, but the
reason why I ask is because I feel that there that that you
know, Maraud's thesis about cults and where meme coins are
heading now, I feel like gold and silver are pretty culty,
perhaps not as culty as meme coins today, but if you adjust
for cultural relativity over time, I feel like the precious

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metals have always been a bit culty.
What? What's been your impression?
Yeah, yeah. Well, here silver, I will tell
you the silver community and I've never really thought about
this, so I appreciate you bringing that up.
But the silver community, and I'm more of a silver guy when it
comes to the physical metals, the silver community is
definitely more culty than the gold community, although the

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gold community is culty as well.And they are, they are, I
describe them as like twin, twinsiblings that sometimes have
sibling rivalry between them. I know what is it, Peter Schiff
and Michael Saylor debates and all that, you know, kind of
stuff that's going on. But I think when you boil it
down, the really the biggest difference between the two is

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that one is digital and one is physical.
And both of those have their owndrawbacks and attributes, to be
honest with you. So yeah, they're very, very,
very similar. Yeah, I, I've, I've, so I
interestingly enough, I was big into gold and silver before
crypto as well. In fact, to the point where all
my friends laughed at me. They thought it was because I
wasn't just buying gold and silver.

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I was buying like physical like I, I was, I was actually buying
physical bars of it. I say bars.
I think they're more of like tiny little like cards, but
whatever they're called bars and, and some more.
My friends were like, why are you doing this?
Why? And I was like, well, I just, I
love the concept of it. You know, I loved, I love the

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hedge against inflation, even back then.
I was 1818 when I started, so seven years ago and almost
almost eight years ago. Wow.
But anyways, I, I started and, and people, my friends made fun
of me. They were like you're waste.
They, they all thought they knew, you know, everyone at the
age of 18, especially young men,they all think that they're I, I

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don't know the next Warren Buffett.
And so anyways, so so I'm familiar as well with the
silver. I, I also find found silver to
be a bit more coldish. Do you think that culturally
precious metals kind of paved the way for what meme coins are
doing now? Do you see these as two separate
things? And and why I?
I, I, I, I, I think so, you know, because what, what appeals

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about silver and I'll just use silver is an example again,
those same attributes and apply to crypto and apply to meme
coins as well, right. This idea that that an ounce of
silver is, is just as valuable here sitting in my basement as
it is to a poor farmer in Senegal, right?

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And then it, that they're universal, decentralized and
timeless. Now, of course, silver's been
money longer than gold and, you know, has thousands of years of
history. But yeah, a lot it's, it's a,
it's, it's really the same thing.
And I'll sometimes joke around and call Unicorn fart dust the

(27:34):
silver of crypto, like bitcoins,digital gold.
But we're digital silver, right?That that, that it's, it's the
same, it's the same path. It's the same thing that people
want that, which is this maybe independence from the
traditional finance system, which a lot of people feel is
kind of rigged against the average person.

(27:55):
Does that Does that answer your question?
Yeah. Why do you consider UFD?
I mean, you might have just touched on this a little bit,
but if, if you could expand a bit, why exactly do you think
UFD is, is digital? Silver, digital silver well, I,
I, I say it in a somewhat jokingmanner because people refer to
Bitcoin as digital gold, right right.

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And I, I refer to Unicorn fart dust as baby Bitcoin because I
feel like we adhere to those original ethos of, of the
blockchain and crypto and, and that what's that?
What does that mean? Well, what, what that means to
me is I understand it after seven months of experience, is

(28:37):
that the blockchain was set up to to provide an like an
absolute fair level playing field to, to let people right
the, the people have the power. Like I, I touched on earlier,
this decentralized nature democratization and I feel like
with UFD and it wasn't planned on my behalf.

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I didn't have a strategy. This all just happened.
But just by following kind of doing right, like in treating
people the way that I would wantto be treated that we have as a
project if kind of followed those original ethos.
We haven't strayed, We haven't done rug poles or tried to
extract from the community that we've allowed this, this

(29:22):
community and the, and the and and and UFD, the coin to develop
in a way that is, I think aligned with what the, I refer
to them as the founding fathers of crypto kind of set out is the
original framework and structure.
You know, and maybe I'd be curious your, your opinion on
this was, I know that, you know,there's what, almost 19,000,000

(29:42):
cryptos now. And I know a lot of them made a
lot of promises and some had bigVC money behind them and some
were rug poles and all that, that, that there aren't that
there's an elite group of projects out there and there are
definitely other ones, right? I'm not saying UFD is the one
and only the true. I mean, there's a lot there's

(30:03):
there's a lot of other great projects including APU when I
read about kind of dove in last night and read about about your
project that adhere to the closer to these or perfectly
aligned as best they can with kind of what the original
framework of blockchain and crypto was set out to do.

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I don't, you know, I think that for me, you know, one of our,
one of our community leaders, his name is Shroom.
He posted a in fact, I, I think I might want to just pull it up.
He posted a question to the community not too long ago and
he said to them, what does APU mean to you?

(30:44):
Just wanted to see, you know what, what is, what does it mean
to you? And for me reading, reading the
comments on that, I thought was the biggest, the, the biggest
reinforcing factor or force rather of what APU truly is to

(31:12):
each individual person. But then the broader message and
I, I don't, the search feature on X is far from perfect.
And so I, I can't, I can't exactly find it, but it, it,
it's there and you can, if someone else can find it and
send it to me, that'd be great. But essentially, this is, you
know, APU's more about communityand and culture than anything

(31:33):
else. It's not trying to be some kind
of currency for the masses to adopt.
And I don't think anyone has a vision of you going to a
baseball game and buying a hot dog in APU.
I don't, I don't think it's evenpretending to be that.
I, I think that APU is really about in much in line much with

(31:55):
Murad's original thesis about community and belief.
The I almost think that the coinis kind of secondary to the
actual product, which is the community.
And when I say that, I think that's a buzzword that gets
thrown around a lot. So let me get specific.
In the APU community, you have access when I say when you join,

(32:20):
there's not like an official joining process, but when you
join, you have access to thousands of people with
different backgrounds that are willing to help you for, for
free, just to help you because you're a part of the community.
It, it in some ways it's fraternal in some ways there,
there is this like fraternity feel to it, minus all of the

(32:40):
negative, not all, but many of the negative negative
stereotypes of, of fraternities,for example.
Yeah, Teek is in the comments now.
He, he actually painted, I, you know, he does paintings for
people. And so he's done like APU
paintings, but he's also done non APU paintings, just art.
And I know that when I, I would like to start decorating, I'm
definitely going to ask him to do some commissions for, for me

(33:01):
as well. But there are, but you know,
I've helped people. I'm, I'm an attorney.
I've helped people with legal things when I'm able to is
sometimes it's out of my depth, but I'm able to point them in
the right direction with, you know, with the guidance and help
of a lot of people from this community.
I've lost almost 80 lbs in the last 10 months ish.
And so for me, you know, the fitness and health and you know,

(33:24):
the APU community for me is really is about joining a group
of people that are going to helpyou.
They're going to be kind to you and enjoying really bringing
back the sense of wonder and innocence and sort of
awesomeness of life that you kind of have as a child that
disappears into adulthood. And so that's to me, that's what

(33:46):
it's really about. So I, you know, to, to that
extent, the, what's really interesting is that and, and,
and it's coined the term friend friendliness.
You know, it's the, the friend coziness, friendliness.
One of the things I so respect about UFD is that you guys seem
to be oriented the same way withtreating people with respect and

(34:08):
not just respect, I think that'sa minimum, but actually being
outwardly and affirmatively kindto them.
I mean, going out of your way tobe kind, it is the best
marketing you could ever do for a coin is to be kind to other
people. It makes people want to join
you. It is, it is it does something
to people's brain chemistry as well, by the way.

(34:28):
So on a on a molecular level, ona chemical level, it is the best
way to onboard people into your community.
And if there's value there, they'll stick around.
And if there's not, you know, they'll, they'll move on.
But from to answer, I guess to answer your part of the question
is that what I really, really love about APU is, is the love
that the members have for one another truly.

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And you know, it, it no community's perfect.
I'll be the first to, to call people out in my community or in
others that that I feel like arenot holding up to the values.
And, and God knows I've, I've had a moment or two where I've
needed to reflect. And I think that having, having
the grace and having the space to let people go through that, I

(35:10):
think that's important too. There's been a lot of growth, a
lot of self growth for me personally in this community.
And that's why that's why I'm I'm forever be loyal to the APU
community and I truly, truly love them.
I want to ask you about Unicorn Farta.
So take me back to you said it was 8 months ago.
Seven months. It was December 16th.
OK so take me back to wow. So almost oh 16th is the 26th in

(35:34):
my mind. Ron, I'm still, I'm in like 2
weeks ago. I you're sitting down, you're in
the basement, you're on stream, right?
Is it, I'm assuming there's a this moment is recorded.
I'm assuming it's been preservedin in footage.
It is, yes, OK. The what?

(35:59):
At that point, when you started that stream, did you know you
were going to? Did you know you were going to
launch a coin when you started that stream?
I I'd already launched the coin I'd launched.
So when did you launch it I. Launched it on December 16th.
That was a Monday, if I have my dates correct, on Sunday night

(36:20):
at about 10:00. This is all my wife.
She's a regular on the show upstairs.
Susie, That's my wife who communicates with me on that
walkie-talkie. Anyway, she had sent me a
article from NBC News about memecoins and about fartcoin in
particular, which I think it just reached 400 million market
cap. I read the article and then at

(36:41):
the bottom of the article there was this fateful little sentence
that said and you can start a meme coin on a website called
pump dot fun, I don't know for $20 or whatever.
And that just caught my attention.
I'm like what? But you can start your own, you
know, meme coin for $20 and didn't really think much about
it. Fast forward to Monday.
I did my normal gold and silver live stream.

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It was about 11:00. I was sitting here and I
actually talked to a friend of mine on the phone and I, I
talked about fart coin during that live stream and and I told
him, I said I should start my own meme coin.
And he said, yeah, you should call it Unicorn fart desk
because that's what you were. And I said, you know what?
I think I will. And so I, I mean blue, I watched

(37:24):
a, a 10 minute YouTube video about how to create a meme coin
on pump fun. I'd never owned a crypto in my
life. I didn't know what a wallet was.
They said you need your, you'll need your wallet.
So I, I embarrassingly went upstairs and got my brown
leather boomer wallet. And that started the whole
process of, of creating Unicorn fartes.

(37:46):
That was on Monday. I created it.
I kind of forgot about it. And on Tuesday I did my normal
gold and silver live stream and I was done.
And I thought, oh, I wonder how that meme coins doing.
And I went and looked and it wasstill there and was like had a
market cap of $6000. And I thought, you know what,
I'll make a I'll make a lot. I'll do a quick live stream.

(38:06):
So I just like turned on the camera, did a quick live stream
and I, I think at the beginning of it, I'm holding this in my
hand and I said, I created a meme coin and it's called
Unicorn fart dust and don't buy it, right?
Like it's a, you know, and then I went out about to pump fun and
showed everybody that it was worth $6000 and somebody bought
it when I was on the stream, which was amazing to me.

(38:29):
And anyway that that started this whole this whole process?
Wow. So it was really sort of a what
do you think was going? Yeah.
Well, what do you think was going through that person's mind
when they bought it? I have no idea, but they made a
great purchase. I hope they held on to it
because, you know, it was. Yeah.

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I mean, it was, yeah. I don't know.
I don't, I don't know. I mean, things unfolded.
It was just insane. In the coming weeks, in terms of
what happened after that and what I learned about the people
in crypto, that was really the most shocking point.
A part to me was the what what Ilearned about the people that

(39:11):
are in crypto. Well, tell me more about that.
Well, almost immediately I was approached by scammers, OK?
I mean, like, why? I went to work, my little job
that Tuesday night and that's when it took off.
I mean, that's when the coin wasstarted to explode.
And, and trust me, they wasted no time in reaching out to me,

(39:33):
the scammers, which I was very naive.
I had no idea. I, I, I knew nothing.
I didn't know that crypto Twitter existed.
I didn't know anything, OK, but what I learned really quickly at
hyper speed during their first few weeks is that there are some

(39:53):
really there may be some scammers, right, But there are
also way more really good quality people in crypto, just
very nice people, very like you talked about with the app who
can be very creative people and people that almost immediately I
sensed. Really cared about this project

(40:15):
and really cared about me and cared about Susie and you know
that it was it just it it it it,it blew me away.
The just, you know, I don't know.
I've never in my life, and I still say this like I, I've yet
to get a piece of hate mail fromsomebody in the UFD community or

(40:36):
somebody, you know, saying anything really mean.
There's just a lot of really good quality, nice people.
And, and that's why I stuck withthe project.
I mean, that was, that was, you know, I went when I, when I made
the decision, like on the secondday, like I'm in this and I'll
commit to this. It was, you know, this inner

(40:59):
feeling that I had that it was something special and that had
everything to do with the community because all I did was
create this thing, right? I mean, it was $100 and I had
dinner, 4 fields and the pump fun.
And suddenly I'm the developer of a meme coin.
It's nothing without the people.It's still just floating out

(41:20):
there worth $6000 if it hadn't been for this group of people
that that were that were for some reason attracted to the
project. And then over the last seven
months have have worked to to create what is just, you know,
what I think is a an awesome unbelievable community of, of

(41:42):
supporters. What's been the most challenging
part for you? Probably the drama you mentioned
that I'm a people pleaser by my nature.
And when the drama look, I thinkI, I look at the UFD community
like a family and you know, I was part of a family growing up.
I have a family now, people and families are care about each

(42:06):
other and love each other. And sometimes because they care
that there there can be squabbles that come up right.
Like squabbles don't exist unless people care about
something. So when the squabbles come up in
the community, that's definitelythe, the the hardest part for me
to deal with because I want everybody to be happy.

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But the reality is, you know, everybody's not always going to
be happy, but families always find a way to work through
issues and, and I think come outon the other side stronger.
And I've seen that happen, you know, time and time again with
with UFD. The APU community has moved me
to tears several times. What's the moment you can think

(42:51):
of that that your community has really emotionally touched you?
You know when I got hacked, I don't know if you're aware of
that, but the, the, my, it was back in February, I was hacked.
My, my phantom wallet was hackedand they drained my wallet of
all of its coins. I mean, in like 2 minutes how

(43:12):
the community rallied behind us and me and we're supportive
through all of that. And they actually restored all
of the tokens that the hacker had had stolen.
So, you know, that touched me deeply.
I think, you know, I, I usually cry on live streams about once

(43:32):
every 7-7 weeks. So you, it, it, it always has to
do with somebody in the community saying something.
And even, you know, I'm a real early riser and I'll, I'll find
myself tearing up sometimes reading DMS that I get from
somebody in France or wherever the case may be talking,

(43:53):
realizing what the community means to, to, to, to all these
individuals that make up the community that that's I think
the most special thing. There's a yeah.
I mean, there, there's I've, I find myself.
You ever watched the movie Moneyball?
No, maybe I'm bad with movies. It's a movie with Brad Pitt and

(44:15):
Jonah Hill. Brad Pitt is the, it's like a
biopic of Billy Beane, who did the he came up with this concept
called Moneyball. Like that's kind of ancillary to
the whole thing. The bottom line is, is there's a
moment where Brad Pitt's character is looking at this
sort of in this meta reflective moment of the movie, and he's

(44:36):
going, it's hard not to be romantic about baseball.
And and it's yeah, he's like this macho guy.
So there's a real nice contrast there narratively.
And several times throughout my journey in crypto, I think when
I see the stories and the narratives unraveling
organically, naturally, I think it's hard not to be romantic
about this. There are things that happen

(44:57):
that you go, it's like it was written, you know, it's like
it's designed. I'll tell you that we had a few
weeks ago, we had a 12 hour fundraising stream to help one
of our community members that was injured in a car accident.
So we were raising funds for him.
And, and the most, I think the most touching part of that is
not only, I mean, we reached ourgoal.
That was great. But to see, you know, at that,

(45:19):
it was kind of like a, it was not kind of, it was a mega
stream, right? 12 hours, but almost every guest
that I had had up until then agreed to to come back for, for
that. And these are you know, these
are people who have they have a lot going on.
So they really made some sacrifices to do that and they
promoted the the content and everything and promoted the
links. But just that moment in

(45:40):
particular for me, it was, it was like, this is what it's
about, you know, and. You know, you, you, you, you, I
know you had Murad on your show.And then, you know, I've learned
a lot from Murad from like I learned how to make YouTube
videos by watching YouTube videos.
You know, when Murad makes a video, I listen because it, it

(46:00):
makes sense to me and it resonates.
And one thing that he said earlyon is that there's an epidemic
of loneliness in the world or isolation in the world.
And, you know, if we can providepeople in the world with this
ability to feel connected to something, to feel togetherness
and part of a community, part ofa mission, you know, that's a

(46:22):
special thing, right? That's not tangible.
We can't touch it. I can't say here, well, here it
is, you know, blue, here's here's the sense of belonging.
But that ability to bring peopletogether and to and to and to
and to have that shared mission to me, that create, that's real
and that creates real value. And, and I think that's a, a

(46:43):
special thing. And I'm sorry I interrupted you.
No. No, no, please.
It's a, it's a, it's a conversation.
Where do you see where do you see UFD going in the future?
That's a great question. I think that the community will
continue to grow. I like to say that that it in
UFD, our community is our utility.

(47:06):
There's all this talk about utility coins and, you know,
changing the world this way or the other.
To me, I look at our community as being our utility and that it
is as it continues to grow, it comes up naturally with ways to
create value. You know, we've got like on
Friday nights, we have a ADJ dance party, DJ Litmus that does

(47:28):
a UFD dance party and thousands of people show up.
I mean, that's just one example of many of different ways that
the community has come up with to create fun, to create, you
know, something for people to dosomewhere to go.
And so as I look out maybe six months or a year from now, I see
the community being bigger and in in continuing to grow in

(47:53):
quality as well. To me, that's important, right,
that we adhere to these these principles we have of honesty,
integrity, some same things thatyou talked about.
I won't repeat them all with that, with that poo that, you
know, we're I think our communities are aligned in terms
of what we're trying to do. Just be good, be fair, be

(48:14):
inclusive. And I think that appeals to to a
lot of people all over the world.
I want to talk about the art that you guys have in your in
your community. It it's, I think, one of the
flagship features from the outside looking in, aside from
the the community itself, you guys seem to have extremely

(48:35):
talented artists. What what where did this?
And it not only that, it seems to be ingrained in your culture.
Where did that come from? Maybe it came from the fact that
from the very beginning I made it very clear because this was a
community driven project, that everything about UFD would be

(48:56):
open source. And that if people wanted to
create NFT projects and if people wanted to create merch,
that it was that I wasn't gonna play favorites.
I wasn't gonna have an official merch store or an official NFT
project that it was open for anyone to, to, to, to, to, to

(49:18):
utilize, I guess you would say UFD and, and that it would help
the community. And I think it has, I think
that, you know, we've had some very successful NFT projects
that have spawned from UFDI, think that it helps bring new
people maybe that are only in NFTS and Decrypto.
So I just think it was from the openness and the encouragement

(49:41):
that this is a community driven coin.
The the the IPI guess you would say was is open source.
We are working on getting an official IP logo for Unicorn
fart test. But even then we want to
encourage people to create theirown versions of that.
And so I think it's just this kind of decentralized approach

(50:04):
that we've had from day one. And you know, I would be again,
I'll repeat this. This is nothing without the
community, right? I mean, what I did was was, you
know, I guess significant in terms of me creating the coin
officially. But Unicorn fart dust is 100%.

(50:24):
I mean, it was like a pure, we're different, right?
Like we didn't, we didn't have astated objective from day one.
We didn't make any promises. It was just the community.
And I think empowering people, maybe that's the best answer to
the question. You know that we've empowered
the artist and and then the community vets everything,

(50:44):
right? If somebody's up to something
that might be a little nefarious, it it typically gets
and it doesn't happen often at all.
But when it does, it gets pointed out and in in the good
artist and the good people with the right intentions are
enjoying great success within the within the community.

(51:05):
Is there, do you think? What's something that you wish
more people knew that you don't get to talk about often?
In regards to UFD. UFD or just you or any of it?
Wow, that's a great question, Blue.
I wish you'd, I wish you'd givenme that one before.
Before we came on, nobody ever asked where I learned all my

(51:29):
dance moves, that's for sure. I like to dance every once in a
while. Where did where did you learn?
I made them all up myself, right?
I have a dance called the jump rope, which is becoming famous
now. That's a great question.
And yeah, you know, I wish that more people, More people in

(51:54):
crypto would, would, would explore the UFD community, would
go on to the, you know, let's just say even on X, put on the
dollar sign UFD and put a, a, a tweet out there and say, hey, I
want to learn about the UFD community and see what the
community is all about. Because when people do that, I
think they, they like what they learn and they're, you know, and

(52:17):
a, and a lot of them wind up, you know, owning the, owning the
token. So I guess that's the best
answer I can come up with for you at this point.
And what's, what's a moment thatthat you look back on and, or
let me let me do it this way. If you could go back and give
yourself a little bit of advice seven months, seven months back,

(52:38):
what would you tell yourself now?
Boy, I would tell myself to go for it.
Somebody who's very influential,influential in crypto.
I was at the Bitcoin conference,asked me a question that no one
else had asked me. This was about, I don't know, a
month, 5 weeks ago. He said, so Ron, he said if, if
you could, if you had a chance to go back, would you do it

(52:59):
again? And I hadn't really thought
about that. And I gave that a lot of thought
and it has been very challenging.
Like you and I talked about the beginning of this interview,
like anything great in life is going to have its challenges and
it's going to have its periods of suffering, no doubt.
But the benefits that that I've experienced because of the

(53:22):
people far outweigh the challenges.
So yeah, if I had to go back, I would tell myself, you know, do
it, go for it and and don't, don't be afraid.
And I've always been willing to experiment with things in life.
And this was an experiment. Some people say, you know, you
made it as a joke. I'm like, it really wasn't a
joke. It was, I'm a curious

(53:43):
experimental person, even at 55 years old.
And, and I would say go for it. You know, I'm, I'm, it's been a
crazy seven months. I mean, absolutely.
You talked about 60 hours a week.
I mean this it never shuts off, but it's also been, I mean, I've
learned so much and, and not just that, but learned that

(54:05):
there's a lot of great people out there.
There's a lot of great people. I mean, you talk, I mean, people
all over the world. It's crazy that that want to be
part of these good communities. Yeah, there, there are so many
more good people than bad, so many more far, far more amazing
people than than not So and and they, I think they deserve to be

(54:29):
focused on. One of the things that recently,
in fact I'm I'm working on currently is really the entire
Pontoc team is working on it, isfinding out a way to help verify
and verify is perhaps not the right word, but certify projects
as projects that have adopted protocols and guidelines and

(54:49):
practices that discourage and prevent to some extent dishonest
behaviour. Bodying volume simulators or
volume bots, engagement bots, all this kind of stuff.
And this is, you know, the guestpreviously said, Oh yeah, it's
like a consulting business. And I said no, I don't want to
sell this. I want to do this for free.
I want this to be Pontox contribution to the space of

(55:12):
crypto. And, and I really believe that
we all have a responsibility to make crypto a better place for
everybody. And I think it's kind of a small
thing to do to just push it a little bit forward, a little bit
in the, in the right direction. And, and that's kind of where I
want to, I want to help. I want to make it taboo for
people to, you know, the people who are abiding, the people who

(55:32):
are doing these, these really unconscionable things.
When you think about it, I mean,it's, it's fraud to some extent.
They're, it's, it's so brazen. It's they're so open about it
because it's just accepted and it, it shouldn't be.
There are so many more people that are not willing to accept
it and that are willing to to shame it than there are that

(55:53):
accept it. But I think people perceive
themselves to be the minority when they're not.
And I would if there, if I couldchange one thing about crypto,
Ron, it would be that if you could change one thing about
crypto, what would it be? It would be that because I
believe that if we want more people to come into crypto, the
quality projects need to be supported and need to be the

(56:16):
ones that are that are focused on not the not the rug poles,
not the other, you know, whole host of other, I guess,
nefarious type activities that that sometimes go on.
And there are good, good projects.
There's a lot of really good, great projects.
And that if we want, if we want more people to come into crypto

(56:37):
again, that those are the projects that that need to be
successful. And, and, and I think that will
happen because I don't know, I, I'm maybe I'm delusional, but I
do believe that, that by the nature of the blockchain, the
nature of the transparency and by the nature of, I guess the
invisible hand of, of, of the, you know, the self policing

(56:58):
nature of crypto, that eventually that'll happen.
But you know, it's, it's not going to happen overnight, but I
do think it's happening. And I think that the success of
projects like UFD, APU, other, you know, SPX 6900, there's a
whole host of these other good projects with good quality
people, Pengu. And, you know, I mean, like,

(57:19):
they really mean well and don't like, like we just want a fair,
a quality, fair experience for people, right?
And, you know, not, not fraud. And I agree with you by the way,
'cause I will tell you sitting right up there that that
Wednesday morning, I went through the timeline of creating

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UFD. I, I sat outside on my screen
dim porch and I looked at my phone, my phantom wallet, which
subsequently got hacked and I had $1.4 million worth of UFD.
That's a lot of money to my family, right?
And, and, and, and people, you know, several of my friends were
calling me people that I respectand saying, oh, you know, it was

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like 5050 people like you shouldsell it.
You should sell it. And I wasn't asking for advice
or like, you're crazy. You should sell that.
I'm like, no, I did a live stream last night and I promised
these people that I wouldn't sell, right?
I didn't even know who they wereat this point.
It was like 2 days. I'm like, I promised these
people that I wouldn't sell and,and, and several people that I

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respect, not all, but several said you're crazy.
So that go lay on a beach. And to me, if I'd sold it at
that point, that would have beenfraud.
That would have straight up beenfraud.
And I should have gone to jail. But I think the reality is in
crypto would have been like, oh,look, the boomer dev rug pulled
everybody, you know, and I wouldhave sailed off and that
wouldn't have been right. You know, I, when I stood up

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there and I looked at that $1.4 million, which again is a lot of
money to me, it wasn't the money.
It was already knowing that there's people out there that
own those coins with me that I've made a promise to and that
this is something bigger than me.
Like it didn't get to 1.4 million because of me.

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It got there because of this community that even on day 2
believed what I said, believed in me.
And I think it's important that that, that people like you,
right? And people like Murad, people
like Luca from Pudgy Penguins, that those are the leaders in
crypto and set the tone so that more people come into crypto and

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then we all do well. Yeah.
And that, and that has been my focus is saying to the whole,
the whole idea of PVE being not just an, an asset, but that it's
that PvP is actually just a liability.
It's about getting everything ready for retail, getting,
getting everything ready for them to come in and feel
comfortable and be happy and enjoy their experience.

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Because there have been too manyinstances where any rational
consumer would say, I'm never coming back to this.
Why would they? You know?
And so hopefully we can we can terraform the the ground enough
to to get it ready for them. I want to ask you, sorry, go
ahead. Well, and I think that's
happening. I was throw in there like, you
know, even on a legislative level in Washington, DC and and

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we yeah, we need to get away. When I went to my bank right up
the street to open my business account and the banker lady and
she's nice and all that, but youknow, she said, well, what's
your business wise? It's in crypto.
She's like, oh, crypto, you know, she's like, oh, stay away.
Like when, when those people start to feel more comfortable
about crypto, that's what we want, right?

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The traditional more, more of the Tranfi people.
And again, I think that'll be good for all of us.
Absolutely. I have another one more question
for you before I want to announce AUFD APU contest
specific for you. If you had some time to engage
with APU at all or or look into the community at all, and if you

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have, what have been the takeaways for you?
My take away last night I did dive into the APU community was
that I, what I remember is you guys value transparency,
honesty, fairness, pretty much the same things that that I know
that we put a very high level ofvalue on within UFDI.

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Know you're on the Etherium network, is that correct?
Or that your, your native token?And you know, I guess my take
away my feel and I was talking with my wife Susie before I came
on and she was saying the same is that it's very similar to
what I mean. You guys are unique.
We're unique, no doubt about it.But that in terms of our, I
guess our, our moral compass and, and what we want to

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accomplish are that we're very much aligned.
Wonderful, wonderful. I love to hear it.
So Ron, I'll, I'll announce it with you here.
What I'd like to do is I would like to give one week exactly.
It's July 26th, maybe, maybe twoweeks.
If it's you tell me if you think2 weeks is isn't, is too much
time or if one week is not enough time and I would like to,

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I will, I will give it away an, an APU NFT to the whoever
submits and creates the best joint Unicorn fart dust slash
APU art. And not only will I give away a
an APU NFT for that, I will alsomake that my banner on X for a

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week. I will showcase that.
And I think that that's right up, right up the your alley.
And the the art that I've seen, I think that's definitely
something you guys can do. I don't know if if one week is
enough time or two weeks would be better.
I have no idea. Do you?
Do you? Do you, I think.
One week, I think one week our our artists are are very

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motivated and I'm sure your artists are as well.
So I think that's a great idea. I think it's an awesome idea.
I love when there's collaborative art pieces that
come out. So yeah, great idea.
Thank you. Awesome.
Yes, OK. And I'll make a post later today
where people can, can post theirsubmissions and hopefully if, if
you'd like, Ron, I think it may be in, in some time a week or

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two from now, if you'd like, youcan come back and, and you and I
can present to the winner or, orhowever, however we, we do that.
That's a plan, absolutely. OK, awesome.
Do you have any? If you have any final thoughts,
anything that you'd like to to to leave with the viewer?
If you could leave the viewer with one thought, what would it
be? You know, if I could leave the
viewer with one thought, Number one, I'm going to say thank you

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to the viewer for joining us. It's, you know, you and I
talking, but we've got members of your community, members of
the UFD community. So that's what, you know, what
we're what we're doing. That's what it's what it's all
about. And, you know, continue on, you
know, follow when you got the Angel on one shoulder and the
devil on the other. Go with the Angel.

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In the end, it will, it will payback many, many, many benefits.
So, you know, and let and let's make crypto a better place.
I think that we all win and thatthe the people do have the power
in crypto. Don't underestimate the fact
that this is was set up the I believe the blockchain crypto

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was set up in a way with decentralization and
democratization that allows for the people to have the power.
And in the end, I I believe the good people are are winning and
are going to win. Amazing, Ron.
Thank you again. Thank you so much for joining me
tonight. Hey, I want to say thank you,
Blue. It's been great, OK?
And I'll look forward to announcing that art contest

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winner. Thank you.
Terrific. All right, you take care.
Thank you. You too.
All right, ladies and gentlemen,that was Ron from the basement,
the developer and leader of the UFD community.
Thank you guys to the viewers for joining us.
Thank you to LFG and Tim who arein the background making things
work, putting things up to my orbringing things up to my
attention. I want to just read a few things

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here. We, we found the post that I was
referencing earlier about what APU means to, to, well, to me,
to the, to the members of the community.
And they're, I just want to reada few of them.
So some of the answers from the community members are seeing the
good in every situation and not letting the bad weigh you down.
Someone else says APU is a childish inner friend in all the

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best, most based individuals in the APU communities where a
bunch of the brilliant humans unleash said inner friendliness
together as friends. Another one says, to me, it
represents pure heartedness, taking the right thing seriously
while poking fun at the right things.
True community takeovers, relentlessness, decentralized IP
kindness, a third place for people from all walks of life,

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Fun, attention to detail thing. It goes on and on.
Another one says APU means meme,universal lore, love for friends
of of any race, and funny thingson the interwebs.
David Gostein puts new friends and then someone else has a
collective group of friends and gigabrains.
Someone else says APU is who we all were before the world messed

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us up. It goes on and on and on and I'm
going to post a link to this in the chat.
It is just truly an, an amazing collection of, of what what the
community says for itself, of who it is and what it is.
And, and there we go. Put it, put it there.
I don't know if it goes into theactual X chat.
But guys, finally, I also want to say thank you to you members

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of APU and of course, and especially members of UFD for
making today happen. It wouldn't have happened
without you. It was 100% what you guys did.
Thank you, seriously, thank you and thank you for not giving up
on on pawn talk and giving up onme.
I know that at first I was a little resistant.
I was a little reluctant, but you guys won me over.
So I'm I'm looking forward to this.
You hit me with your best shot. I want to see the craziest, most

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outlandish, colorful stuff. And the only goal, the only, the
only I guess requirement, so to speak, is just that it's, it's
the UFD, the Unicorn and APU together.
And it whatever captures sort ofthe essence of, of APU and also
the energy of, of both communities.
I say APU of APU and UFD and captures the, the, the energy of

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both communities. But obviously, like artistic,
you know, talent is obviously going to be rewarded.
Thank you guys. Thank you guys so much.
That's it from me today. Later tonight, you will be
hearing most likely, I think from seeking in his first
segment here on Pontalk. I have no idea what we're
calling it. Maybe we'll be calling it
Seeking APU or I don't know whatwe'll call it.

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We'll figure it out. He'll name it something, but
that'll be later tonight. So stay tuned for that.
That'll be announced. I'm thinking like 10 PM, 11:00
PM maybe ish. He'll be doing that.
As always. My name is Blue and I'm the host
of Pontalk, the fastest growing crypto meme coin talk show that
reinvests in the communities that you and I both love.
Thank you guys for being a part of today's stream.

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See you guys episode. Take care.
He's a blue frog shark in a red cardigan.
Works by day, stacking wins likea champion.
But when the moon rises he's theking of the swamp, croaking up
memes with a holler and stomp call from the swamp to the

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screen. He's judging them all with snap
and smirk. He's running the brawl blue app
poo and pawn talk, standing tall.
In the daytime he's cool with a suit and a grin, but at night
he's the frog where the chaos begins.
Hypes the hits, clowns the flopswith sneer.

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There's the blue, the frogs. Still the morning appears, so
watch for that frog. He's taking the reins.
Blue apple and pon talk, runningthe girl.

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Oh blue apple, Pon talk. Hear the call from the swamp to
the screen. He's judging them all with a
Snapple, Apple and pon.