PondTalk with Blew Featuring Seed Oil Disrespector

Blew and Sod break down diet, health, and exactly what Omega 6 oils are!

Episode Transcript

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Good evening and welcome to yet another episode of Pawn Talk.
Somehow we're still here. We're still going.
In fact, we just launched A giveaway that we're doing for
our episode this Saturday. We were giving away 4 million.
Well, this is actually breaking news.
We're actually giving away 5 million.
We're giving away 5 million APU to five different lucky winners.

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So I guess 1,000,000 to 5 different people, but 5 million
total, which is that's alpha because you guys don't even have
that information yet. That's actually that hasn't even
been released yet and that is going to be a very exciting
giveaway that we're doing. We're doing that in conjunction
with who's strategy, which is the official pawn talk sponsor.
More about that later. And then of course, also one of
our friends named, I think it's Doctor Chulo.

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I'm not sure. I have to, I have to remember
exactly the prefix, but it is Chulo.
So that'll be fun as well. It's many, many exciting things
coming in the pawn talk world. Happy.
What day is it, is it Tuesday, is it Wednesday?
It's got to be Wednesday. We know it's Wednesday because
today is a very special episode.I don't know how it happened.
It's quite, it's quite confusingactually how it happened.

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But I feel like we've released more guests and upcoming
episodes this week than all episodes that we've done thus
far. And we're only on day 25 of this
show. So, you know, that's kind of,
let's say something. At any rate, today is a very,
very special episode because we are going to be talking about

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the evils, the, the, the demons of seed oils.
It's a, it's, it's been in the news a lot lately, actually.
And I've heard some crazy things, some claims about seed
oils being the cause of all of our problems.
I've heard that it's engine lubricant.
I've heard that it causes the sunburns.
Google has something to say about that, by the way.
But we're going to get into it. And I think at that point, at

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this point, I, I have to introduce our wonderful,
wonderful guest today. His name is Seed Oil
Disrespector. Brian, thank you so much for
joining us tonight. How are you doing?
Hey, thanks for. Having me thank you.
I I wanted to say first, you area doctor, right?
In real life. What does that mean?

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Well, so I'm, I'm a family medicine trained right now, a
hospitalist physician. So if you go to the ER and you
find out you're not going home, we're the ones that come and
talk to you and admit you, the hospital take care of you while
you're there. And once you're once you're
ready to go, we discharge you. So it a good way to describe it

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as it's like the end of the funnel, all the different.
You know, when people think of the hospital, they think of
injuries, but most of the time it's diseases or infections or
things like that. So there's a lot of chronic
infections. And when they go on far enough,
you end up in the hospital, whether it's, you know, with
your cancers or your COPD or heart failure, you know, kidney
disease or all those types of things.

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So, you know, I deal with the end results of chronic disease
on a daily basis. Actually saw 19 people today
actually I just got off the clock like 8 minutes ago so.
That's amazing, but thank you somuch for agreeing to be with us.
I know that it's I'm, I'm not a doctor by any means, but I, my
profession is, is, is busy as well and I know what it's like
to to get off 111 job and then start, start the other one.

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So. Well, I even start, I started my
account during residency. So I I started medical school in
my 30s. So I was in residency in my late
30s Wow. And so I started Sedol
disrespector like in the, the, the very thick of the what was
it called the Delta variant of COVID.
So that's when we went so and I did residency in Eastern

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Kentucky. So we were not slammed in March
of 2020. We got slammed 18 months later.
That's when, you know, we are hospital was full and so pretty
much at the peak and that was stressful as hell.
You know, looking back then, I don't remember like, you know,
not being able to sleep at nightor crying on the way home, None

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of that. I was just kind of like, Oh
shit, we're busy, you know, we have care of.
But at the peak of that I, you know, almost like born out of
that. I started the the account making
memes about seed oils and I can get into that, but it was kind
of funny. Like I mean, it was, you know,
people joke cope. It was it was like a coping
mechanism probably. I really poured myself into it.
It was a lot of fun. I think I made over a thou.

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I really slowed down honestly inthe past like 12 months in the
last like year I've slowed down,but I made like over 1000 seed
oil memes I think over the course of a few years got a lot
of attention. Wow, we could use you making APU
memes, but we'll get. Into a lot.
A lot of them are APU memes. That's why.
I'm here so you know I, I believe in in, you know I or not
believe in. I understand memetic power and

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you know, so you know, you got my attention.
I'm, I'm not, I'm not. This is not the Fart Coin
podcast. Right.
No, no, no, no. This is.
I don't. Even know what that is?
I just saw the memes but. I haven't seen any fart coin
memes. I don't really know.
Is there even a fart coin I don't know.
Or is that just a? Meme No, there is one, but you
know, there, there are two and we'll get into this too, but
there are two kinds of first of all, let me just say what a what

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an indictment of a lot of these sort of shit coins that they're
like, let me let me reverse it. What a, how indicative of APU's
true power is it that you're familiar with the meme, you
understand the community and that like that, like even the
phrase mimetic power, like it, the fact that that's strong

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enough to connect with Someone Like You, who is, I, I'd say
somewhat of a, of a outlier within the, the normal sort of
audience and, and, and in positive ways.
It, I think it really underscores the, the true power
of the meme. But a lot of these meme coins,
the fact that they exist, it, itis an absurdity even in and of

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themselves or in and of itself. And that is why it's a meme.
And APU, as you've noted, is very different.
So no, you're right. This is not the Fartcoin
podcast. Although don't give them any
ideas these days. You have no idea what might just
pop up. This is pawn talk.
This is absolutely the the APU. They they they can call their
podcast The Dutch Oven. Yeah, if they, I don't know if

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there are actually enough peoplethat exist that support the
movement, that are like real human beings on the platform to
do that, but I'm. Sure, I don't know enough about
this to be to know what I'm evensaying.
No, I mean, frankly, you know, Idon't know if you know how
Pontok started, but it started with the guys saying, what if we
took the person that knew the absolute least about crypto and

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dress them up as Mr. Rogers? And that's exactly what it,
that's exactly what it was. And then they're like, wait a
minute, they're we're on to something.
No, but I, I want to, I want to get into how did you, you said
you, you went into your residency in your 30s.
When did you go to medical school and and what really made
you decide to go down that route?

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Did you say when or where? When?
So that was 2014. So it was like, you know, mid,
mid twenty 10s and you know, I, I that was, it was, it was tough
doing in your 30s because you're, you know, I was a

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parent. I had a daughter, she was four
years old when we started. So she's a teenager now.
She's very autistic, non verbal,very healthy.
But, you know, if I describe her, she sounds really severe,
but she's very happy and healthy.
And yeah, that was, I mean, it was, you know, when you poll
doctors, a lot of them say that they wouldn't do it again, but

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that's because they don't want to go through the experience.
It's tough. You know, it's like asking, you
know, it's the first two years of medical school that for the
folks here who have been to college, it's like finals week
for two years straight. Yeah, it's, it's awful.
Yeah. Like, you know, and there's
maybe about 20% of your class that has a photographic memory.
They act like they're stressed, but they're really stressed

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about 100% versus 98%, right. Then maybe another 20% pretend
they have a photographic memory.But then the rest of us are just
regular people who are studying really hard and trying to learn
as much as we can. But it's really, it's really
fulfilling. I mean, the kind of what I
thought I was getting into as a 25 year old and what I was
actually doing as a, you know, 35 year old, big, big

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difference. But you know, I definitely
encourage folks to go out there.You should.
I, I, I described it in a tweet before where I said I decided I
want to become a doctor, you know, and it was like, it was
like succeed or die trying and his ego death, right.
So, you know, we really don't, you know, you don't go off to
sea anymore and think like, OK, maybe I'll die on this voyage,

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but ego death is real. So you can look at that as like
a high tea masculine activity. Like you should be able to put
yourself into something and and and be willing to suffer ego
death. Tell me more about that because
I, you know, I again, I, I don'twant to, I don't think there are
two professions that have this more like a, a healthy
competition. But the more you describe it,
the more, you know, I went through law school.

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And so for me it's like there's some, there, there are some
parallels, But tell me more about what do you mean when you
say that there's like this ego death and I've never heard it
described as like a high tea kind of thing.
So tell me more about that. I could have failed, right?
Yeah, I could have failed spectacular, could have wasted a
ton of money. I could have.
I mean, I did, I did my pre Med.So I did a this when I graduated

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high school, I worked for my dad's company.
It's a sign company. He actually just sold it and
sold his building earlier this year.
So he had it for about 40 years,which is I'm really, I'm really
proud of him. It was always him.
So there wasn't the really the next generation to take it over,
but I got the bug like other folks do.
I could really get into that. But you know, I started, I

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finished a business great. I never lived in a dorm.
I met my wife in Community College.
Best, best decision I ever made because I met her there.
And but I did all my pre Med at night.
I mean, it's like it felt like acommercial, you know, with like
someone like, you know, hustlingat night, you know, twirling
their pencil and doing homework or something.
Like I, I took my first chemistry class at 25.

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It was the fall of 2008 when we had the financial crisis.
I would just been married for a couple years, but I had a really
stable life. I mean, my, my wife and I were
almost like boomers the way we just met at 18, stayed together.
You know, we have millennial sensibilities, but you know, we,
we just, we're just conservativeand traditional like that.
I just, you know, we, we didn't meet in like a Christian youth

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group. We met at Community College,
right? And I played in hardcore bands
and stuff. But, you know, it just, it just
worked out. I'm, I'm very, very, very lucky
that we found each other. But when I decided to do that,
I, I could have failed, right? I just, I put all put all the
chips in and, and just, you know, 11 foot in front of the
other. Like also, one of the things you
have to realize in life is all the cliches are true, right?

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And, and you know, like, you know, you have, you have to
really lean into a lot of things.
And that's what I did and. They don't become cliches if
there isn't truth to. Them yeah, exactly.
So, but I I realized that, you know, you know, we joke like,
you know, men used to go to war and now they have like teenage
mutant ninja turtle cakes and stuff right.
But, you know, you have to be able to, you know, put your

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chips in and, and be able to, you know, willing to risk ego
death, you know, and, and and that, you know, I, I even if I
failed, I would have succeeded in in becoming a better person.
I think, you know, even if I wasn't a doctor right there.
Yeah. That's amazing.
Even if even I wasn't a physician right now, I'd be
doing something I would have learned.

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And, you know, as long as you'redoing things morally right, then
then, then your efforts will be should be fruitful, even if even
if they're not traditionally fruitful.
Yeah. There's something about taking
the chance that transforms you. It is a transformative process.
And I, it's funny you say that because I, I remember feeling

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often times, especially especially when we're studying
for the bar. But even before this, did you
ever watch The Avengers? Yeah, I actually, I caught up on
all of that during COVID. Very classic thing.
We watched The Sopranos, we watched The Wire, I watched all,
I mean, I went to work. I was, I was working during the

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pandemic, you know, and we're inKentucky, so it wasn't as bad as
other parts of the country. I was just seeing, you know,
crazy shit on on YouTube. And you know, for like, I was
just recalling yesterday how like we went down to this water
park in Southern Kentucky in theduring the summer of 2020 and it
was open. We're like down there like, you
know, we have like little mask in our hand.

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Like we're going to have to wearthese in there and literally no
one's wearing them. We're like, OK, so you know,
Kentucky wasn't as bad as some places, but I'll be honest, we
were, we were middle of the roadin our approach.
So as a as a physician, as a family, you know, if Target says
you had to wear a mask and Target, we're like, OK, fine.
Well, we need to go pick up something, right?
We're not going to boycott Target right now, but we weren't

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about to cancel Christmas. Like, you know, I think it was
21 or something. My family got together, You
know, we were, you know, we, we weren't, we weren't here's
relevant terminology. We weren't Maxis or minis at all
in that. And the the reason I bring it up
is just because there's a seat in the trailer and there's a
moment in in Avengers end game where Steve Rogers turns to

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Natasha and says, I know it's going to work because I don't
know what I'm going to do if it doesn't, you know?
And there were, there were moments studying for the bar and
like he's like finals week and just exams that the things I was
doing, if I, when I would tell people and they're, oh, how's
law school, you know, they'd be like, how are you doing that?

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And I'm like, I can't think about if I stopped to think
about what I was doing, I would be like, it's impossible.
There's no way anyone could do this.
And there were really, there were moments where I was like,
this has to work. Like there's so much risk,
There's so much failure that like, or, or chances for
failure. But I'd never thought of that as
a process, as sort of a psychological process through
which you transform as a person.What is, you know, it's, it's

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interesting you also mention egodeath because I, I, I, I didn't
know how soon we were going to bring up the, the ayahuasca
topic and what's going on with liver King.
But before we even get out into,into all that, do you how, how,
how much of it do you think? I, I feel like it's such, it's
such a, it's such a profound concept to put into the, into

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the story of medical school. So help me understand what was
it like psychologically for you?I mean, you obviously you didn't
fail like you got you got through it, right.
But even through that, did you feel that that you did have some
sort of psychological evolution even having succeeded?
Oh my God, Yeah, yeah. And actually, you helped me

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understand my own concept here better, talking about how like I
I don't know what I'd do if it doesn't.
It's not ego death unless you'reunless you feel that way,
because if, if I failed, I wouldthat what now, you know, and but
even if I did, it would again, it would have made me a better

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person, right. But you need to be able to be
approaching your things in a in a, in a moral way.
You know, if I was, you know, taking advantage of people on
the way or, or doing thing unethical or, you know, I mean,
if I was achieving things through, you know, then the no,
you know, whether you, you win and you lose, you lose and you
lose. But, you know, putting forth
effort with, you know, faith in God, You know, even if you don't

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get, you know, the apple right, or, or, or even if your crops
don't grow or something, then you, you, you still win.
So that's an important, that's an important thing.
And I had, you know, I wasn't, you know, I didn't just get 99
percents all the way. I had times when I got as I had
times when I got barely pass, you know, kind of all over the
you know, where you kind of, youknow, tighten up and feel like

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you're about to lose it. Yeah, Oh, man, you know, I got
so no, so that was that was pre Med.
I took organic while right around when I think it was right
around when Skyrim came out. So my joke is like, that's why I
got AI think. I think I got to actually, I I'm
pretty good on the ones, but I think on organic 2 I had ACI was
like, and I had to explain it like how'd you get AC in organic
2? It's like, well, I was.

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I was a stealth Archer, you know, I was.
I thought that was so so when, you know, we were doing our
research, just kind of figure out how we wanted to approach
this. I saw that come up and I was
like, that's got to be a meme. Like that can't be real.
What self Archer? No, the C in organic because of
Skyrim. Oh, no, no, no.
I mean, I'm not joking at all. Actually, maybe I would be.
Was it Fallout 3 or I don't know.

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It was, I think it was Skyrim. I think it was 2011.
Yeah. I mean, I remember because I
went to University of Maryland that they had a, they have a
program called Science in the evening.
So I remember actually my my dad's company was pretty close
to there. So I remember seeing the 1111,
was it 2011? I remember seeing that on the
buses on my daughter was one. I remember we actually have

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pictures of her little thing on the couch while I'm sitting
there with the PlayStation controller.
Yeah, it was fun. So but so.
Why medicine, though? So for me, and this ties into
the good segue into, you know, why I care about seed oils, I
got into, you know, I wasn't like a fitness guy when I was a
teenager or my early 20s, but then I started to get into it

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around that kind of early 20 age.
And I found actually was on a, you know, just like with bro
culture now on X and on the Internet in general, like a
body, not a bodybuilding, but a strength lifting or
powerlifting. Sorry.
So a strength website called Strong Lifts 5 by 5 and they had
some like it was like, it was like 2007 like blog style

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website. So this might be old for a lot
of the audience here. And I remember they had some
good red pill type of knowledge on on on nutrition.
And I remember, and this is something classic most people
know. I remember they were talking
about these gems in California called CrossFit.

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And then so I found CrossFit pretty early and through that, a
lot of their what's called the Paleo ancestral eating world,
right, which can be as silly as some people.
They're like, oh, eat like a caveman and as advanced as, you
know, PhD researchers talking about ketogenic diets and how
they can be used with seizures. And, and I just, I just fell

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down rabbit holes. I was spending hours and hours
in the evenings just like this, you know, 7 something at night
sitting at home at my desk. Actually, this same desk, the
same IKEA desk that I have here,which is called the Jerker,
which is kind of funny for a desk and reading about.
Yeah, it is. It's called, that's what it's
called the nice desk. Yeah, just.

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Wasn't expecting that, but OK. The gooner desk, yeah, no, like
look it up. Google, Google, IKEA jerker.
It's kind of funny, yeah, me anda couple other guys had we
thought was hilarious back then.And so you could fit 2 monitors
on this thing too. So I only have one.
I should get 2 though. It'll change your life.
I don't know if you've ever worked with two monitors.

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It'll change. I, I do at work sometimes, yeah,
which is nice. You know, you kind of have one
thing and the other thing there,it's great.
Wait one. 2nd, That's what you were saying, that you, you and
the guys saw this. You, you were sitting at a desk.
There was an you lost me at the desk.
That's right. That that's the problem when I,
when I, when I try to be too humorous and things like this,

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is that I, I, I kind of go off on tangents.
You have ADHD or ADD or IS. Is, you know, I probably, but
you know, one of the things about being a doctor that's nice
is that you don't sit there and just at least, you know, primary
care, hospital care, things likethat.
You know, I saw 19 people today,so I had to switch gears a lot.
So maybe it just kind of plays into it, but I didn't get
through medical school without Adderall, like probably one of
the only people in my class to do it.

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But I know I had something that I was that I was just saying, I
think I was talking about, OK, I, I was going down these deep
rabbit holes on autoimmunity, ketogenic diets.
I was basically teaching myself biochemistry and for you know, I
know that this is a this is there's a lot of like computer
science may become more tech oriented audience just

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interested in crypto, crypto currency in general.
My brother who's a couple years older than me, he, we were both
like underachievers in high school.
We both went to Community College and just kind of general
studies and then did more things.
So he matured around 2021 and did a computer science degree.
I mean like Tommy did every. You know, that's what the family

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talked about. Tommy did every math class and
it was amazing because you didn't think of him as the
computer science guy at 15 or 16, right?
But he got into computers. We actually, there's a good
story too. We in 1994 or five or something
with the original Warcraft game,which I posted the CD of MS-DOS
earlier. We read in the, in the manual,

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it said you could link 2 computers together and play each
other with two computers linked to each other.
We all know what that means now.But but that's the language that
we used back then. If you used a null modem cable,
NULL. So we went to like the, you
know, in real life brick and mortar computer store, you know,
up the street and said, do you have a null modem cable?
And they're like, yeah, we did. We probably spent $30 on it or

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something ridiculous and we connected our computers and
played Warcraft against each other.
But Long story short, what I want to say was that I just
started spending a lot of time on these advanced health topics
and I got really into how your environment and your food and
everything contributes to, to chronic disease, right?

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And that's not that controversial.
But when you get into it on thatlevel of like autoimmune disease
and gluten and celiac and, and, and really and ketogenic diets
and, and seizure disorders, it, it just felt, it felt
revolutionary. And there's, there's this one
PhD on the Internet, Chris Masterjohn, back when he was a

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student, I remember watching some lecture of his about
cholesterol. So this is a nice kind of
controversial topic of how, you know, saturated fats not
actually bad for you, cholesterol's not actually bad
for you. And, and so I just went, you
know, it felt edgy, like I was a, you know, metal core, punk
rock type kid, right. And so to, to get into something
that was like, Oh, they're wrongwas, was exciting.
And I still think they're wrong.And and by day, I mean, just

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when people say saturated fat's bad for you and cholesterol is
going to kill you, that's a controversial topic.
But you know that that's still even what you know about almost
20 years later from when I firststarted reading it.
Still very controversial, probably will continue to be.
From a while I've done a bit of reading.
I was on pub Med the other day and it's it's a it's a still
wildly and wildly contentious discussion.

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Yeah, and, you know, I can, I can get into, you know, I know
where I'm, I'm all over the place.
That's kind of my style sometimes, unless someone really
reigns me in. But the, the irony is that when
I started medical school, I put a lot of that stuff on hold, you
know, 'cause I had to learn allopathic medicine.
I'm ado. So osteopathic medicine for

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those who aren't. So for those who aren't
familiar, I think like 2530% of medical students now are D OS
not MD's. My class had neurosurgery,
OBGYN, general surgery, emergency medicine.
You know, we had, we had everything.
We had a good, we had a good mixof stuff that graduated our
class and go into residency. Traditionally DO started around

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the an MD started the first DO school around the Civil war era
and they were considered like the original holistic doctors.
But to cut to the chase, the nondiplomatic answer is like, it's
like an MD and a chiropractor put together a doctor about you
in in the United States, it's a physician.
In some countries it's not a physician.
It's more like a chiropractor, but United States it's a

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physician. The practicality is you can find
an MD that's very holistic and you can find ADO that just
wanted to find a medical they could get into, you know, but
the reality is we do a lot of musculoskeletal work like the,
the, you know, the fascia of thebody, the lymph flow of the
body, the, you know, the, the, the range of motion, the

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tightness of your muscles, bio mechanics, tensegrity.
You know, there's a lot of interesting stuff there.
So I'm ADO technically doctor ofosteopathic medicine, which
means I did more hands on stuff in medical school.
But practicality I, you know, I take the American Board of
family medicine. I, I did the MD board exam
because I'm, I'm just not a specialist with the hands on

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stuff. Some people have a gift for it.
I've got good friends who went to Med school with which were
really good at it and everyone lined up to have them work on
them, but you actually have to have a pretty good gift to
practice that regularly. OK.
And so you went through medical school and you you did your
residency. At what point did you come back
to the question of seed oils? Yeah.

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So that ties in what I was saying earlier at what was that,
38 to 2021? I remember checking my blood
pressure and realizing I was hypertensive, you know, so I
mean, at work it was like 150. So I was like, shit, sit down
and I kind of rest for a little bit and I check it again and
it's like 140. So then I, I got a cuff and I

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come home. So that top number is systolic
and I just couldn't get it below140.
Just even sitting in the chair at home at the jerker desk, you
know, and, and I was like, so it's like I'm 30 and I'm like,
OK, I'm not invincible anymore. I've never, I've always been a
skinny guy. I've been more skinny fat in the
in the past, but and it was likethe one thing, you know, I've

(25:32):
had migraine headaches, but like, you know, anybody can get
a headache, but to be hypertensive, it's like, Oh no,
I have AI have a comorbidity. I have a pre-existing condition.
Right. The first the goon desk.
Yeah, exactly. It's funny.
It's what it's called. Did you put that down there?
What the Yeah, the the the Chiron.

(25:52):
No, no, no. The producers are doing that.
OK, sounds like. Damn dude, Blues got my ass.
Yeah, so go to confession kids. So you have to receive the
Eucharist with a clean soul. So damn.
See just getting. So I guess I am ADD that makes

(26:12):
me one of the boys, right? No, but it absolutely it means
that you're at home in APU. But you were talking about it.
No, it does. You said, you mentioned that you
were at the jerker desk hypertensive and.
Yeah, that's exactly right. So so honestly, like I I finally
got intimidated. I was not scared of COVID
version one right? Why not?

(26:35):
Because it I looked at it as something that was a risk to
high risk people like obese elderly right.
When when you just when you lookat as as a as AI think a
reasonable skeptic. I don't want to act like I'm
like Captain Midway, right, But as a reasonable skeptic, you
know, I'm not the trust expert person.
I'm not the trust the schizos person, right, yes, the sedal
disrespect tour. You know, I'm like even even as

(26:57):
a even as a resident, I remember, you know, joking with
other residents about like, OK, where's the excess mortality
numbers, right? We're like, what's going on
here? This is kind of funny.
You know, we're just joking around.
It didn't hit us right. So that you talk about these
like nurses with dancing TikTok videos and stuff like, no, the
hospitals aren't busy. It's like, well, some are,
right? We did.
And I can tell you that when we got busy, it wasn't fake.
It was real. I watched a lot of people die,

(27:18):
but it was 18 months into it, right?
And for what it's worth, so I was hypertensive.
My hospital was getting busy andpeople were dying and, and I was
like, OK, great. You know, I, I, I'm going to, I
need to, I need to do something different with my diet because
my, my middle ground, I've always wanted to be a middle
ground guy. Like my, my middle ground
approach isn't working because I'm hypertensive, right?

(27:40):
And I mean, I don't think I was going to die of COVID the next
day, but I was just like, OK, like I need to take my life
seriously. I'm 38, I'm no longer like 25 or
something. And so I, I, I, you know, I
think I immediately went like carnivore or something, like
anyone with a, with any good sense does, you know, just me
like a keto and just only like beef or something.
While I'm doing that, I'm just doing what any, you know, good

(28:01):
scholar does is just look up themost ridiculous things you can
find on YouTube. So a lot of names of people
I've, I've known. And you know, if you asked me, I
don't know, a decade ago to summarize paleo because I didn't
think, oh, you got to eat like acaveman.
Like, yeah, there's a naturalistic fallacy.
And you know, not everything natural is the perfect thing.
There can be unnatural things that are good for us, right?

(28:24):
But if I was to simplify that, that the best description that I
heard is what's called the the three Neolithic agents of
disease. The number of the big one
obviously was the agricultural revolution with grains, probably
sugar too. And then I have a screenshot
from I think I posted on Instagram or something in 2011
or 12 of hashtag industrial seedoils, right?

(28:45):
I don't think anyone even used the phrase seed oils back then
because it wasn't really a meme.It was just this, you were
describing soybean oil and you're describing these things.
So, you know, I'm by no means the first one to talk about this
kind of stuff, but I would have told you that what, you know, if
you think about that's what a doughnut is, it's grains, sugar
and industrial seed oils, right?So it's like the worst thing you
can eat, which is not controversial, right?

(29:06):
And you know, anybody would. Yeah.
No one's I heard saying doughnuts, actually, Yeah.
Yeah, or or or or a Twinkie, right.
A Twinkie is, although I think someone did go out there and
lose weight with Twinkies. But that, you know, we can get
into that. Actually.
We don't need to get into that. So the the aha moment that I had
what you see me post all the time is quote, it's the seed
oils because grains have been around.

(29:28):
You can make an argument, a goodargument that people were
healthier on a you know, the successful hunter gatherer
gatherers were a lot healthier. A lot of them were not helped,
were not successful and therefore died or were
malnourished. But if you were successful, but
you don't have the disease like you do have today with, with
just because of grains, sugars, you can't, they do rot your

(29:50):
face, right? They promote bad bacteria and in
your in your, in your in your mouth and they rot your face.
But I, I don't think sugar causes diabetes.
So I had this aha moment that all this other knowledge that I
had pre medical school mixed with my current understanding of
Physiology and pathophysiology was that that the that the
dominant force in modern chronicdisease is a high Omega 6 diet,

(30:15):
which when I say seed oils and people are like, oh, so you
know, olive oil can have higher Omega 6.
And but no, I'm just talking about the overall.
Exactly. Yeah, I'm talking about the
overall food system. Talking about people listening
to this. They just want to go to Chipotle
and it's full of, you know, ricebran oil or they just want to
eat a freaking cookie at their work that someone brought in
that has soybean oil in it or they just want to eat a salad

(30:37):
from a place and it's soybean oil on there.
It's like you just unless you know exactly what you're doing,
you can't avoid this stuff, right?
Even if you are trying to avoid it, you're going to probably
still get it exposed to it a little bit, you know, you know,
2% here or there or whatever. So, and to tie into what you're
saying, like you could, if you pull up pub Med, when it comes
to the, you know, 'cause the, the, the, the.

(30:59):
By the way, 99% of this app has never been even within a mile of
a medical journal, let alone pubMed.
Just like we say pub Med, I'm telling you, no one has any idea
what the hell we're talking about.
OK, sure. Well, I mean, so, you know,
'cause it matters because, you know, people have, you know,

(31:20):
they've got diverse family, they've got diverse friends.
So it's important that I repeat these things.
It takes the half life roughly. Just use easy numbers two years
ish or so of Omega 6. So you know, you know, it's not
just a great video game from thelate 90s, but after one half
life, you're done to your 50% ofyour Omega 6.

(31:40):
And then after two half lives, you're done to 25% in that.
And you know, if you want to, you know, if you're eating all
this, you know, lubricant with the high Omega 6 over the years
since you're a kid or something,you know, it takes eight years
to to wash it out, right. And that, and that's from our
knowledge of fat tissue, right? So other tissues, it's different

(32:04):
numbers, but then parts of your eye, it's permanent, which sucks
bleeding cause of blindness, macular degeneration.
There's, there's good evidence that it's also lipid
peroxidation, Omega 6 issue. So there's, there's more,
there's more existing studies than you could ever read on
oxidative stress in the gold standard for measuring oxidative

(32:26):
sources for H&E, which is the, the, the you know, you got
reactive oxygen species and Omega 6 and then, and then they
hit each other, blah, blah, blah.
This is really shitty chemistry because I don't care to get into
it. And basically you make these
really harmful compounds, aldehydes, 4H and E, which,
which, which can harm other fats, which can you probably

(32:48):
heard, you know, when people saythat I can get it, I can.
I know a little bit. I read more about repeat years
ago, like before the kind of Twitter meme portion of it.
But I'm not a repeat expert by any means.
I know there's a lot of overlap with, with, with poofa hate with
what I talk about repeat, but I didn't learn about poofa from
repeat. I I learned about it from

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various sources a long time ago.But yeah, so to, to simplify it,
I, I say that a acetyl free dietand, but what I mean by that is
a low Omega 6 diet, which you can screw up.
I'm going to try to, I know we're on Twitch, so I'm going to
try to be careful. You can screw that up.
I call that the, the 8020 that is 80% of a healthy diet

(33:33):
nowadays. And by that I mean someone who
just wants to be able to go to Chipotle or eat a cookie at
work, right? Like you can't do that because
then you're going to be eating too much.
It's, it's easy to, I, I, that'swhy I put this one graph with
all the, you know, 5. The average American has 5 grams
of seed oil a day. Something that's like in 5 grams
of corn oil is 100 years of cornand 5 grams of sunflower oils,

(33:58):
3200 seeds. And just to kind of illustrated
how absurd these things are 'cause I, you know, gluten
became a meme 15 years ago. And because of that, partly
through the paleo movement, you know, to tie this back to what I
was talking about, you know, before when I got interested in
health and disease and wanted toget into Med school, if it
didn't become a meme, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm

(34:19):
working on a book, you know, I'mthinking about making one of the
chapters called Gluten Free Water, right?
Because it's funny, we laugh, but it became a meme.
And because of that, 1% of the population that are celiacs,
which cannot eat gluten for sometimes, you know, mild to
severe negative health effects from it, that Steelic.

(34:39):
Now I'm talking about like, oh, I get a little diarrhea.
I'm talking about like iron deficiency or crazy skin things
or, you know, crazy autoimmune conditions or debilitating GI
problems. Like that's like 1% of the
population. And now they've got options,
right? I think sedals is an inverse
issue. I think there's maybe 1% of the
population that can just crush Omega 6 their whole life and
they're fine. And they're not gonna, you know,

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die of heart disease in their 50s or 60s or 70s.
You know, I think it, I, I, I admit that it is complicated.
What I'm trying to do by just not shutting the hell up about
this is make it a major thing. You know, people talk about the,
the majors and the minors. Don't major in the minors.
Don't worry about sun tainting your taint.
And you know, you know, drinkingupside down water or something

(35:21):
like, you know, this should be amajor thing.
Like, just like you want to makesure you get enough, you know,
you want to make sure you get enough protein, you want to make
sure you get enough sleep. You want to make sure you know,
you know I I want you to not screw up the Omega 6 issue, you
know, because you might sunburn too easily.

(35:42):
So, OK, so, so let's just, I want to back up a little bit and
then we'll move forward in this issue with the sun tanning and
and whatnot in the burning. Bottom line, let's put let's
let's pretend you're talking to a bunch of APUS, OK?
I know. So what?
Now, now you know I make this. Did I make that 1?
I don't know. Probably looks.
Like. Back when Back when it was Did

(36:06):
you watch the new Gladiator movie?
No, OK. I I saw the original 1 like as
what I guess a teenager like altered and we were late and
there was not very many seats. So I think I saw it like in the
front left with my neck, you know, tilted to the side.
It was amazing. Yeah, that was definitely a

(36:26):
teenager and altered. What does that mean?
An altered. I was high.
Oh, OK. Or something.
Yeah. I wasn't like a total hippie,
you know, crazy kid or anything.But yeah, that when I saw that I
was definitely altered, yeah. Gotcha.
You know what's what's interesting about that movie
Gladiator is that most of it waslike improvised.

(36:46):
Like when they started filming, most of the movie was unwritten
the original. Gladiator.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, really, Scott
started filming that movie with with Russell Crowe and Joaquin
Phoenix and everyone. It was, it was not.
It wasn't. It wasn't even, it wasn't even
near finished. Most of it was unwritten.
And they just kind of played it by ear.
They risked. Ego death, probably with those
things sometimes, yeah. Exactly.

(37:07):
And probably, you know, tons of many millions of dollars.
But let's pretend we're talking to a bunch of APUS, OK?
A bunch of short, green cognitive.
Are you, are you allowed to say the R word on twitch?
You you can say it but but you shouldn't say it because you you
the problem. Is you can't.
Say as a slur, you can't say anything.

(37:29):
T pose on twitch? That's T stands for Twitch.
I don't actually know if you canor cannot.
Yeah. We should you know what we could
do the last five minutes of the stream, we should just see how
what can we do to get this account banned on no but but.
No, I'm a millennial, so I, you know, I, I have a bad mouth.

(37:51):
By the way, it's the it's the worst generation.
Yeah, I'm an elder millennial, so.
So now, so you're basically Gen.X.
But but, but there's the the themillennials are are it's the
worst generation because it's boomers, but worse.
And it's boomers raised by boomers.
It's a very dangerous thing. No, I'm serious.
I'm serious as my. My parents are, are very,

(38:13):
they're both born in 1950. They're like, yeah, yeah, they,
they, yeah, they sold the, they sold the building that they,
they've only got so much money to live for the rest of their
lives. And I just called my mom today
and they paid for a 2025 Ford Explorer with cash.
So I was like, nice. That's awesome.

(38:33):
Yeah. Like I said, that it is.
Listen, I love all people. I love most people.
I love some people. But the point is, is that and
there are many great millennialsand there are many great
boomers. But as a generation,
collectively, yeah, it's the millennials, the boomers,
Boomer, that's all. I've had a very weird millennial

(38:54):
life. I mean, just just, I've had a,
you know, we, we, you know, we're definitely boomerish.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And and and then like it's the
worst of sorry, I'll stop hatingon the Millennium.
No, it's fun. No, it's fun though you.
Know it is fun and it's healthy too, but the it's a good stress
reliever sitting at the jerker desk.
I'm sure you understand, but. That's and that behind me.

(39:17):
That's not a jerker desk. That's that's because I'm just
ridiculous and a guy. I wanted more desk room in my
little office right here. So I bought one desk and just
being ridiculous, I bought the exact same desk and put it on
top of it. And my wife was like she's she's
not nagging but she's kind of like, oh OK, so you just bought
another one and put it on top ofit.
I was like, yes, because I wanted more room.

(39:38):
The cat can't jump up there so Icould put my little Warhammer
box and my bags so they don't get cat fur all over them.
You posted something today that I thought was hilarious.
It was like the layout if a man had like full control over.
Yeah, no, no, Yeah, that's very.True, I don't know if anyone can
pull that up for us, but it was,it was fantastic.
And I and at first, when I firstlooked at it, I was like, I

(39:58):
don't really see what's wrong with this.
And then I was like, oh, OK, like I get it.
Like I understand what's wrong with this.
Yeah, yeah, there's a, there's a, there's a natural evolution
of the home being designed and being for the family, right?
And hence being the woman being somewhat in charge of it, right.
Because men would have if, if homes were just for men, it
would just be kind of some weirdautistic thing, you know?

(40:22):
But it but you know. In general.
Don't knock it till you try it. I just think why shouldn't we
have the house where 90% of it is a gym slash library?
Yeah, sure. I mean, you know, there's a lot
of lofts that have funny things like that.
So but now we're actually, we'reactually finally our we, we
bought this house and we're in Lexington, KY.

(40:42):
We bought this in 2022. I finally, I got a residency, I
bought a nice house. We can talk about Warhammer and
it's there. It is, It is millennial grey.
Yeah, it is millennial grey. But we're finally like, putting
stuff up on the walls. Like, you know, we're, we're,
you know, our millennial sense because when we grew up in the
90s, our, our, our boomer moms were like decked out in the most

(41:05):
ridiculous stuff everywhere. So, you know, we finally got our
own places. And, you know, it's like, don't
put anything on the walls, but we're finally leaning in and
doing boomer things. I need to get like a grandfather
clock or something too. So this is yeah, that's those,
those things always creep me out.
We'll get into that. But so this is it.
This is the we posted this earlier today and minus the the
roids right? I don't see what's wrong with

(41:28):
this. Yeah, exactly.
The tweeting chamber, they have a, they have a jerker desk in
there. They have two Jerger desk in
there. The gaming lounge.
Yeah, home gym library. That's great.
This is my little home gym here.Although eventually I'm going to
get a real I'm going to get a squat, squat rack and everything
for my for my garage. That's going to be nice.

(41:49):
I'll probably do that next year.They I want to you and I are
going to be dangerous together because we both are going to
just fly everywhere in this conversation.
And if anyone has been waiting to hear what my question has
been for the last 10 minutes, I don't I'm sorry.
Imagine you're speaking to a bunch of little APUS.
Bottom line, you're saying Omega, NHEHENNHL, NFL4, whatever

(42:11):
it is you're saying. LMNOP.
What? Yeah, whatever it is.
What what is the take away? I mean, what is real?
What is killing us? Is it, is it just it's the seed
oils? Is that what it is?
Well, I think it's one of the major things.
And what I mean what is a seed oil?
It, it's a, a hyper concentration of a marginally

(42:34):
edible food. It's, you know, it's, it's
turning 100 years of corn into alittle dollop of oil or 3200
sunflower seeds. It's just, it's, it's how they
replaced butter. It's how they replaced other
just normal fats and things or just animal fats.
Why'd they do it right? Cuz it's cheaper.

(42:54):
OK, So what makes the seed oil so dangerous?
Because it's high in Omega 6. And there's, there's more of the
redeeming qualities like you could, I'm not an olive oil
expert, but you can get into allthese like other compounds into
it, which are nice. There's, there's, there's, you
know, when you, when you eat, when you eat beef that has beef

(43:16):
fat in it, right? Yep, Apparently that's real.
I mean, people are going to be get mad about the plastic and
everything, but like, if that's your only option, apparently
that's real. So that's a nice thing.
But it's easy to, it's easy to overdo.
And then for no, you have to usebanana boat all over your skin
just to like go outside for two hours or you're going to get a
bad sunburn. That's a very real thing.
The reason why I won't shut the heck up about seed oils and

(43:38):
sunburn is because it's real. It's it's it's front loaded.
So I talked about how it takes eight years to detox from sea
dolls, but your your skin reactsto your environment.
It's one of the fastest thing, right?
So you change your knife. You may know this like, OK, if
you're on chemotherapy, your hair falls out, right?
Because because it as you're taking medicine that hurts your

(44:01):
body trying to kill cancer cells, one of the first things
to react is your skin, right? So, and there's a lot of things
if you go, if you get a tick bite and you, yes, it is asylum
because we shouldn't be eating seed oils.
So sunburn is real, right? I, I, I make sure to tweet
regularly the the sun winds eventually.

(44:23):
If you just lay out in the sun, you're going to be burned to a
Chris eventually. But the fact that people go
like, oh, I mowed the lawn and got a sunburn.
Oh, I, I went to the pool the other day and burned my ass off.
Like it never used to be like that.
Now, of course, there's probablysome people who, who are more,
more susceptible, but I know people with red hair and a 10s,
you know that they quit seed oils and they're like, I've been

(44:47):
tanning for the first time in mylife, right?
So you know, the, the milieu, the world we we've grown up in
is a high Omega six world, you know, all, and a lot of the
human studies that say seed oilsare good for you, they, they
don't even first of all, most ofthe times don't even control for
that Omega 6 intake, right? So they're, they're, they're not
looking at the principle. They might be talking about seed

(45:07):
oils, but they're not looking atthe principles at play.
They're just real seed oil studies have never been tried.
I think that's probably the bestway to put it.
I wonder. I wonder why they're.
Expensive. Long.
They're long studies that have to be long.
Well, I'm sure there's also a particular, I'm sure there's a
group of companies that might, might have some kind of interest
in not funding those. Yeah, well, maybe there's a

(45:29):
billion dollar industry that mayor may not, you know.
Dollar industry. What's funny is that they've
made they call it high oleic, right?
That's, that's, that's mono unsaturated fat is oleic acid.
So they call it high oleic seed oils, but when they what it
really is, it's lower linoleic. So there are seedles out there

(45:50):
that are low in Omega 6, but I don't want to talk about that.
I'm demonizing seed oils, right?Like, because that's good.
If you end up eating some high oleic, low linoleic sunflower
oil, that's good. But if you demonize seed oils
and avoid them, you're, you're going to, you're going to win,
right? This, the mimetic power is
what's important. That's why I just keep talking

(46:11):
about the sunburn thing. What are you gonna remember
Liver King about? Liver King Testicles, Liver
steroids. What are you gonna remember
about him? I.
Remember the ayahuasca, I think.Yeah, Ayahuasca, you know, if
you only remember like the dumb,you know, and not dumb, but it's
real. But the dumb sounding sunburn

(46:31):
connection when that it it's growing when when that really
when when the comedians start joking about how like, Oh no, I
got a sunburn at the beach the other day.
It must have been those boardwalk fries.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Then I win, right?
I mean, we're already winning, right?
But you know, the, the, the RFK era will come and go.
I don't know what they're actually going to get done.

(46:52):
Hopefully, hopefully they lay the seeds, lay the foundation
of, of paying attention to a lotof this existing science.
And there's a lot of food fraud out there like that.
That olive oil that you just showed apparently is real.
Kirkland uses real olives, but there's a lot of olive oil out
there. Shout out to it.
Apparently they're rebranding. It's not going to be Kirkland
anymore that that Kirkland has. Produced from Italian grown

(47:15):
olives and it's cold extracted. Whatever that means.
Yeah, apparently it's real. I actually I brought up a series
of props here to to talk about with you.
I don't know if you guys can still hear me let.
Me just grab there. We go OK, but I didn't realize.
Turns out I'm like, I thought I had different oils to talk

(47:36):
about, but this is all olive oilin just different forms because
here's I was. So the way I was raised, I was
raised like my mom was always, Ialways thought she was a nut
because she, you know, she's from, she's from Mediterranean
cultures and European cultures. And she was always like, no,
like no McDonald's, no nothing. She used to be the only fast

(47:58):
food we ever ate as kids was Chick-fil-A.
And it wasn't because it was God's chicken.
She, she, I remember from that age, she was like, it's peanut
oil or something else. I don't remember what it was,
but like, she was, she, she feltdifferently about Chick-fil-A,
But it's not as though we ate itoften.
And she, she, she hated all thisother stuff, the processed
foods, the chemicals. So I, for me it was always, you

(48:19):
know, like sunburns were never aproblem for me until like
recently, you know, like a, likea, like I say recently, like 2-2
years ago was the first time I burned to the point of like,
what's it called? Peeling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Peeling in my life, first time
ever. And that's because I've been
like living on my own. And, you know, I, I've, I've

(48:42):
learned a few things. So you little disrespect.
I've learned a few things. But so I, I, I grabbed these
thinking, OK, I have different oils to talk about and compare,
but this is, this is virgin olive oil.
And then this is cooking olive oil.
Probably different, but kind of the same olive oil cooking
spray, which I think might probably be the worst thing
here, which is almost completelyfull.

(49:03):
But I was going to, I was going to talk about that as well.
And then I also wanted to get your opinion.
I bought some soaps. I, I bought some soaps recently
because it's like a, it's a Dovemen care eucalyptus in cedar oil
cleansing bar. And I bought it because I, I
don't, I, I honestly, I like thesmell.
I like the way it smelled. And then I looked at the
ingredients and Oh my God, the amount of ingredients is like,

(49:26):
that's what we used to do in thebathroom.
Before smartphones, by the way, you'd read the ingredients.
Yeah, we'd read the ingredients list.
I. Can't.
I can't. Pronounce.
Most of this by the way I'm reading it and like after after
17 of these ridiculous ingredients that I don't think
is even English, it just says inhere seed oil.

(49:48):
It just says seed. Oil doesn't say anything it.
Says, yeah, good point. Yeah, so.
Helianthus. And anuis.
At which in parentheses, sunflower seed oil and then a
butt, coconut oil, all this other stuff.
So you know. Yeah.
So the you know, the authorities, the science.
Trademark, you know, wants to tell you that saturated fat,
saturated fat is bad, but they actually most of the time can't

(50:10):
even tell you how much Omega 6 is in the food that you're
eating, because often when you read the ingredients, it'll say
and slash or and or right which slop star.
Wars actually did a. Pretty good job with indoor.
That was pretty fun and you readthe ingredients.
It says cotton seed oil and. Or canola oil and or soybean

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oil. So they don't even know where
it's coming from now. And those probably all have
different Omega 6 levels. I, I don't, I don't know, I
don't know how they're allowed to do that right.
So if you know, if we actually illegal, there needs to be there
needs to be serious regulation. Well, what's funny though, is
that even the folks that are. Seed oil defenders can't hide
the fact that if you cook seed oils, which food is cooked right

(50:54):
or store it or anything this Omega 6 fat does, you know, you
fry it, you're going to turn into, you know, harmful
aldehydes and these compounds which you can't.
Deny they're dangerous. So then they'll say something
dumb like, oh, we'll just don't cook with it or something.
Or they'll just talk some bullshit about like smoke points
or something. Like I I spend very little time

(51:16):
talking about yeah, exactly. Or, and it's just in everything.
So yeah, you want low Omega 6 diet.
That's what I keep talking about.
So how do I? OK so I I want to talk about CD
app here. In a second, this is my second
way into that, but I have all these products here.
Can I ask you what reason could there be for there to be so

(51:37):
many? I mean, let me, I just want to,
I want to, I want to go back to this here.
Sunflower seed oil, coconut oil,some kind of kernel oil.
I think it says couscous shell. I don't know what the hell is
going on with this thing That's and then and then all these
dyes. There's blue one, red 33, yellow

(51:59):
5. What?
What? Why so I don't?
I could probably pretend, but I don't know how much it matters
with the skin. Probably a lot of weird
endocrine disruptors that we're absorbing, right?
But I'm not the best influencer,which can come on here and
sound, you know, wax poetic and try to sell you something.

(52:20):
But I should, when I use tallow soap like I buy, that's a real
thing. Tallow soap.
Yeah, I just I use it on my. Head and everything.
Just I want, I'm telling. Hold on, let me just give me a.
Second here. I'm going to tell my my team I
want a partnership with a towel tallow, Not towel tallow oil
soap or tallow soap. I want to find a tallow soap

(52:43):
person. Let's make it happen all right
and the dyes. So this is an endocrine
disruptor. This is a does this.
Do you think that this has anything do do the seed oils in
this matter? I mean, I don't know.
I don't, I'm, I don't know you don't know if.
It's meaningfully, I mean one, yeah.
Like, yeah, I don't know. I mean you.

(53:05):
Know, interestingly enough, if you do.
Have an Omega. 6 deficiency, which is like you can only do
that in a lab right you're you're not going to have an
Omega 6 deficiency. So any how could you read Well
exactly and it it. It would be a very.
Awkward diet that you wouldn't eat right and only they can only
recreate that in a lab. But if you do have a deficiency,
you do see like weird like skin findings, right, like you've

(53:26):
got. So it's kind of funny that like
the deficiency and the excess affect the skin, which is
interesting with the with the, with the, you know, scientific
term or phototoxicity or dermal photosensitivity or just
sunburns, right. And, but yeah, this is the
telesub guy Dove, and you boughta lot of them.

(53:47):
Well, so this is well, I I I. Like to stay clean.
And so this is this is the one with all the seed oils in it.
This one, it's it says that it'sfree from.
It's interesting the advertisingon it goes out of its way to say
that it's free from sulfate cleansers.
I don't know if it's parabens orparabens.
Yeah. Any other valleys?
That's just. It's just means that they know

(54:08):
that there's something. You want to see there and they
just mimetically do it. Yeah, I don't, I don't know what
that means really in this context.
But here it says with the power of charcoal and glycerin and the
ingredients in this one are it'sway fewer.
Let's just start with that. It's way fewer than the other
one. It's still a lot sodium.

(54:30):
I I wish I would have just sent you the photos so you could
decipher this for us. I don't see any of the same Oh,
coconut shell powder. There we go some kind of wax and
then but not the same oil. So interesting.
This one does not but then a bunch of food dyes.
I don't understand why we have food dyes in.
I would I would itch a lot afterdepending on certain things.

(54:51):
I. Used like shampoos and like I
sensitive skin or whatever, I'd get out of the shower and just
be kind of itchy and annoyed or whatever.
I get a little bit now still. So I don't know if sometimes
that might just be the heat, like the hot water.
Sometimes it can cause like a histamine reaction.
You can itch. But the the telescope is just,
it's just more basic and it's just a more basic thing.

(55:12):
But you know, low, low Omega 6 diet sedals, Mickey sunburn and
Oh yeah, chronic diseases. But that's just, you know, here
I want to, I want to, I want to point out the absurdity of this
so. So here we have the good stuff,
right? This is the good stuff.
If it were in a glass bottle, it'd be perfect, right?
But thank you. Yeah, exactly.
For the, for the. The couple sticklers yelling at

(55:33):
their phone right now or something.
Then we have the cooking olive. Oil.
Don't use that that that looks like piss.
Yeah. Well, yeah, the color is
interesting. It's and and my point I was
giving you this earlier that might not be real.
I don't know, right? Well, so so here's the thing.
The ingredients in this one? Is 100% Italian olives.

(55:54):
Those are the ingredients. It's olive.
Oil. It's oil.
From olives. That's it.
That's all they're saying here. Which one is that?
This is this is the the good one.
Yeah. What it says is Kirkland's
signature 100% Italian extra virgin olive oil is traceable to
its origin and produced according to strict standards
that ensure authenticity, outstanding flavor and
nutritional value, and excellentolive oil for cooking.

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It also is delicious as a finishing oil for fresh food.
That's it. There's a certificate of.
A product. Certification on here with some
kind of Bureau apparently olive oil needs to be there's like
some regulation, which I think is interesting, but that's it.
That's all that's on here. There's not even like an
ingredients section because it just says like it's olive oil

(56:34):
like that's the only thing that it is this one.
This is the some like weird. Brand for.
Cooking I, I, I got it 'cause I was recommended to get this for
high temperatures cause of all the smoke by the vent in my
kitchen doesn't work very well. So it's got this like non-GMO
label here, you know, on it and then on the back it says this

(56:57):
is, this is actually my favorite.
Like we were talking about thesememes.
It says on it. I was just like at it.
It says it's like gluten free, vegan and something else that I
thought was so funny just because like of course it's
gluten free. OK, So it says on it that it is
refined olive oil and virgin olive oil.

(57:19):
It says product contains select quality olive oils from the
following countries identified in the box, Argentina, Greece,
Italy, Morocco, Peru, Portugal, Spain, Tunisia, Turkey.
That's it. That's all that it says here.
Doesn't tell me anything else about about what's going on
here. So this like I don't know what
it means when it's refined, but this one just it looks weird.

(57:42):
Why is it? Why?
Is it a totally? Different color.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't trust.
It I don't know actually, I mean.
It's hard to say like. You know what if?
If it's just, if it's just, you know.
What are you going to tell your mom to use And she likes one
thing that yeah, you want to getsomething extra virgin, but I
think it also, by the way, this one has.

(58:03):
The the virgin olive oil, the green one has 1814 grams of fat
per serving. And I think they have the same
serving size. Yeah, it's the same serving
size, 15 milliliters. But the green one has 14 grams
of fat, 2 grams of saturated fat.
And this one appears to have this one also has that.
But what they're, where they're different is, well, they're a

(58:25):
little bit different. I.
Think this one has more sodium? I don't know what's going on
with this one. There's like a difference in the
saturated versus non saturated. The percentages are off.
I don't know. It's a it's a bizarre.
They're different calories. The green ones like more
slightly more. It's just strange.
It's the whole. I think one important take home
is that when I'm talking. About seed oils, I'm not just
I'm not talking about just what you use to cook with, right?

(58:48):
Every few. If if you're, if you're actually
pouring canola oil into a pan like you're, I'm sorry, OK, or,
or frying things in it, but it'sjust the fact that it's in
everything, right? That's why I keep that's why I I
hit the big thing when I mean, like I've had people give me
grief for always talking about Kerry gold butter, right?

(59:09):
Oh, Kerry gold has got the something in the wrapper, blah,
blah, blah. It's like, look, this is mimetic
power here. I want you to think about real
butter, right? And has a nice gold shiny, you
know, you know, Willy Wonka ticket looking ass butter, you
know, I mean, like you're going to remember that.
You know, I really want to just,you know what?
What is that butter? Not good.
Yeah. I would use it you're you're

(59:30):
fine I mean. Like you said, if.
If that if that Kirkland was in a glass bottle, be better,
right? OK, yes, I would love it.
I would love it if that like I'mI'm trying to shoot for an 80.
You know, I'm a, I'm a physicianlike I'm, I don't, I'm going to.
Yeah, I'm going to stress. Myself out if I try.
I'm not. I'm I'm Brian, but I'm not Brian
Johnson. You know what I mean?
Not there. But either of them, you know I'm

(59:51):
not, I'm not. That means Brian Johnson is.
King and he's. Also the moon bra, he's the guy
that does the longevity stuff that.
Oh, OK, OK, OK talking about hiserections at night and stuff and
everything. Oh, OK.
So just yeah, yeah. Brian Johnson.
Yeah, 1's. Brian with an I-1's, Brian with
AY, and I'm Brian with an I. But but but you know, you're
fine with carry gold. OK, I want to, I want to talk

(01:00:14):
about this just just. Briefly to to to under score the
point here, this one's ingredient, this is it is extra
virgin olive oil cooking spray. It's non stick, which seems like
a weird thing to advertise because I feel like, OK, and
this is the one that says it's propellant free, gluten free and
vegan. It's an interesting way to
market your olive oil. It has zero everything 0
calories, 0 fat, 0 nothing. So there's nothing in the skin.

(01:00:37):
I don't know how that works. How does that make sense?
And then the. Ingredients here is.
My favorite part, it says it's, it's extra virgin olive oil, soy
lecithin or lecithin. Lecithin.
Yeah. That's the emulsifier.
Yeah. Soy and sesame.
I don't know. It's it's weird.

(01:00:57):
I don't use that stuff. We're in a weird world.
Yeah, we're in a very strange world.
But I just wanted, I just wantedto.
Show that it's like it literallyit's everywhere.
It's in your olive oil, it's in your soap.
So some people might wondering like what does this have to do?
With frogs, right. It has everything to do with
frogs. Tell us.
Yeah. I'm wondering what this.
OK. So for the folks, I'm going to
give you all some. Homework I want the folks

(01:01:18):
listening to this. So I'm a meme war veteran.
I want you to go out there meme more 1 and 2.
I want you to go out there on YouTube and look up the
metaphysics of Pepe. I know this is a poo, but
there's a family tree here. I want you to look up the
metaphysics of Pepe. Yes, Jordan Peterson is
involved. I'm.
Still a big fan. I think he's.
Mostly the same person he was when I first heard him in like

(01:01:41):
2016 or whatever. Of course he has bad takes on
American politics. He's a Canadian, but he did
metaphysics of Pepe. I think he did like a Part 1 and
Part 2 and follow up with Jonathan Paggio, who's an
Orthodox Christian who talks a lot about the symbolism.
He has the The Symbolic World podcast.
So look that up and they will talk to you about Pepe and what

(01:02:02):
the frog stands for, the trickster that can live in the
water and live in the air and represents change.
And, you know, you know, what we're talking about right now is
still controversial. And yeah, he's watched in a
sense, but I'm, I'm not going to, you know, score, you know,
hot take points by acting like he's, you know, not mostly the

(01:02:26):
same guy he was. In 2016.
But yeah, watch, watch that. Video.
It's pretty interesting when youtalk about.
Frogs. You know what?
What I like is how you know Pepewas banned from the the.
ITunes Store. You know, and I think that
that's part, I'm sure a poo is too.

(01:02:46):
I don't know. Can you?
Can you put it? No, Everyone loves up here.
Everyone loves. Up here so.
So I mean, that's what's interesting too.
And that would be, you know, maybe you can help, maybe you
can help shine some light on that is when did we make that
transition right from from? Pepe to a poo because.
People do kind of who's we people in?

(01:03:07):
General right, you've got. Mommies, you've got Internet.
Like when did that transition happen?
That's like 'cause even my even my profile picture is like, it's
not a poo, but it's kind of a weird looking Pepe, you know
what I mean? Yeah, I know, I know.
I've I've. I've seen some of the family.
Tree but but you you have to have one.
Everyone knows the IQ curve likeit's important wisdom is is

(01:03:30):
incorporating the entire curve. You have to be R.
And you have to be high. IQ and you have to.
Be a winding midway, you know. What I mean so so when you tell
me about APU, I mean. There's there's so much to say.

(01:03:52):
But I think. This is the little APU that I
have I think. The fact look at.
What? Look at where we are right now.
And I want to say thank you to everyone who's reposted the
stream. It means a lot.
It helps us reach out. I appreciate that.
But look at where we are. We are on a talk show called

(01:04:13):
Pawn Talk, led by, you know, runby a team of people who are,
they just got together. One day and said hey, let's do
this. Someone was like, we should
build something like let's buildsomething.
We were we were brainstorming how to how to take off who to
the next level. We all believe in the project
and someone said very dramatically, if you want to

(01:04:36):
take it's like this. It's like a weird sensei moment
in the movie. You know where like the the guy
the protagonist go to like the older kind of has been kind of
guy and he's like, here's my advice to you.
I don't know if you familiar with Avatar the Last Airbender,
but it was kind of like consulting a previous Avatar.
I've watched several hours of clips on YouTube.
Perfect and made some memes of. Avatar News I was I've.

(01:04:58):
Tried to watch that episode on. Netflix, I just.
Watched like 1 episode. Which episode like the live
make? No, don't.
Do that. No, no, no.
Watch the. Original I was actually #5 I
was, I was #5 in the country fortrivia in that show.
One of my favorite shows of all time.
But anyways, the, you know, consulting like this and he,
this guy goes because you want to take this project to the next

(01:05:21):
level, build something. And so we were all like, OK, you
know. It wasn't like project.
Leadership in the in the group, it was just like people like
it's just guys and and gals eventoo real ones.
We checked, but the the we were just there and he goes build
something. And so we're like, OK, well,

(01:05:41):
let's build something, let's do it.
And, and this and, and this is what we did.
And the second we did it, there was a, a, a wind that sort of,
you know, immediately rushed into our sails and we realized,
OK, there's something bigger going on here.
But the, that's what APU is. APU is, is a group of friends
united by this joint mission of we love this front.

(01:06:04):
And it's, it's not even just, you know, there, it's a coin.
But I have to tell you as someone who you know, I, I come
from the geopolitical side of X and one day a bunch of frogs
just raided my space and I immediately fell in love with
the community immediately. It was instant.
I was like, like, they left and I was like, gosh, I have to

(01:06:25):
like, I want to go with them. I almost wanted to shut down my
space that I was running to go hang out with them and, and I
obviously I didn't, but I, I wasfollowing along and Long story
short, I noticed just the way that they, the way at that
point, you know, I was on the outside where, where one of them
went. You the rest were, were there
with them and the extreme positivity, this radical
positivity that that came with it.

(01:06:48):
It's like you start the day withthis dose of positivity and
wholesomeness and it really changes the way you start to
look at yourself and you look atthe world.
And it's not, it's not so much adelusion as much as it is just
reframing the, it's a meme like everyday, you know, we post good
morning and and it's, it's like it's a meme within a meme within
a meme at this point. But there's something profound

(01:07:11):
and very powerful about the first thing you do is think it's
a good morning. That's a powerful thing.
It's a very powerful thing when you begin to to completely
change your frame of mind and your outlook and your view on
life of like, OK, this is how I'm going to start every day
with this, with this little routine, this little ritual that
I have. I'm going to go, I'm going to
say good morning. My friends are going to say good
morning back. And it's a small thing, but it

(01:07:33):
sets the tone and then it buildsand it builds and it builds the
meme itself. There's a reason why.
There's a reason why this littlefrog, it is king of the
Internet. Everyone loves APU, and he's a
silly little guy. He's silly.
And he's innocent. I I always said he, he.
That's a good point. Yeah, you're right.
There's an innocence to APU. Yeah, Pepe's kind of an asshole.

(01:07:56):
And. I mean, he is he, Yeah, yeah.
When you. Show.
Two people especially. Younger people, the two frogs.
They they don't like Pepe. Pepe looks like a smug son of a
bitch APU. That was part of why I chose my
profile picture. Too is the smugness that was
the. It's almost like a parody, like
the parody of a parody of a meme, right.
Like I'm being smug about seed oils.

(01:08:16):
I've got the cigarette and stuff, yeah, and and so.
And APU has that smugness and. Believe me, it's so.
Much more infuriating when it's a cute little autistic frog
that's meming you and and completely just clowning on you
in the in the comments and like ruthlessly, you know, but also
wholesomely in a in a way, in a way.
Well, yeah, there's there's a humility to it, which is I.

(01:08:37):
Ridiculous, you know. Ridiculous you know.
And how do you right, exactly? And how do you how?
Do you make how do you hurt someone who is so shielded by
the armor of their own absurdity?
Like it's it's a very, it's verydifficult.
I don't there are not many people in the community that are
that crash out or get angry. Because someone makes fun of.

(01:08:58):
Them typically it has nothing todo with that if it happens at
all, well, that's good that thatthat you know that's actually.
Another. Speaking of Gen.
X and millennials and stuff that, you know, it's another
high T trait, you know, it's a good thing.
I remember I I used to play, I played in like hardcore bands
and stuff and I played with guysthat were a little.
I was born. In 83 so.
I played with guys were a littleolder than me, like born like,

(01:09:21):
you know, late 70s or 80 or so. And that more Gen.
X, they messed with each other more, right?
They they, they almost like Bolt, like friends bullied each
other, but they made each other tougher in a way.
But then when I shifted towards playing with bands and guys
younger than me, you know, in the later 80s and they're more
millennials and I didn't realizeat this time, this is purely

(01:09:42):
retrospective to really understand this.
They didn't do that. They were more, you know,
subtle. And, you know, if you can mess
with each other and, and not like fall apart, that's a good
thing, right. So, you know, I think I think
APU has that kind of innocence too, but like, you know, not
afraid to be like a, you know, you know, the crusader or

(01:10:04):
something too. And man, I can't tell you.
So when I started, when it, whenI.
I've been a part of the community for a little over a
year now and when I started, I remember originally I was, and
don't get me wrong, I am what wecall a, a high, high, a target
rich environment for these guys for so many reasons.
Originally it was really like I reached out to like group, you

(01:10:26):
know, to the coin leadership andI was like, what the fuck, you
know, like what's going on? Like why, you know, And it, it
got to me a little bit, not because not because I was a
stranger to being laughed at or memed or whatever, but because I
was like, we have this. The idea is friendship.
Why am I being like ruthlessly memed and I under then I
understood like that's their love language like that is, you

(01:10:46):
know, and it completely changed my frame of mind in the way that
I looked at it. And now like it's it makes you
stronger. It's faith that you.
Can get stronger, it's faith that you can get stronger 100%
and not only that but like I learned.
It is like my relationship with a lot of these people has also
transformed in that way as well.And like, it has made me a
mentally stronger person to be able to listen and accept

(01:11:09):
ridicule, criticism, humor, and not let it affect myself, image
or anything like that. And that's not something that
like anyone is doing. I don't even think
intentionally, but like, and youknow, the, my, my, the person
that I love making fun of lately, his name is seeking and
I think he's one of one of our, of the greatest members in our,
in our group who happens to be in a bit of a he's washed right

(01:11:31):
now. He fell off, but he's getting
back on. He said the other day, if you
can't laugh at yourself, what are you doing?
Or something to that effect. And it's he's right and he's
absolutely right. And it's like you said, it's
high T behavior. Like I think if you can
demonstrate that level of numberone, humility, but also
confidence and security, like, you know, I, these are my guys.
Like I know that they're going to mean me to death, like, you

(01:11:51):
know, to hell and back. But but if if someone else makes
fun of me, watch how they're going to they're going to show
up in in numbers that they will do things to you.
No one has ever done before. And we'll see.
So it's it's just the the bonds are just really strong.
And the bottom line really is, is that it?
There's so much substance to it beyond like the coin itself and.

(01:12:15):
That's that comes in the. Form of the community itself,
which is the most powerful asset, I think in in the
project, but also the future of what this little frog can do.
Because Brian, I'm telling you this little frog's going to
change the world. I really believe in that.
I really do. And I think that our society is
ready for a, a new symbol of innocence, of security, of

(01:12:37):
confidence, a, a, a message to young men specifically, but
really to everyone that that they're not broken, miserable,
angry, evil, You know, people, Iremember when I was a young
younger and I was in middle school, these like middle-aged
women were yelling at me, telling me that I was the cause
of rape culture and all things. And I'm sitting there going, I

(01:12:58):
don't know, I was like, I don't even know what I like.
Like, I don't like, what are youtalking about?
Like that's crazy. And, and I think that you can
only do that to a generation forso long before they, they become
resentful and they say, you knowwhat, fuck you.
And, and I definitely am that sort of that part of the

(01:13:18):
conservative movement where I don't, I don't really belong
with conservatives. But for the fact that, number
one, I, I believe in the institutions of this country,
but #2 and I and I understand the Constitution, but, but #2 I
really, really, really reject progressivism as an ideology.
Yeah. And that's part of the reason
why we have a resurgent in Christianity.
Is because people see demons. It's like you could use you.

(01:13:44):
You see the darkness and you want.
To turn towards the light, you know, absolutely.
And I, it's, it's funny because I, I.
And I'll move on from this very briefly, but I'll say or
quickly, but I'll say that I, I reached a point where I was
like, you know what? Maybe I'm an atheist and I found
nothing but misery in that path and I said OK, let's let's try
something else. And I reached the conclusion

(01:14:06):
that I don't even care if God isreal.
I'd rather live my life as as though he were as though he is.
And that's a good place to start, so and by the.
Way and exactly and I started there and that led.
Me to the conclusion no God definitely is real like that's I
started there and then he led methat's good so and remember I.
And I like that it's worth repeating that, you know, wisdom
is living on the entire IQ spectrum, right?

(01:14:30):
And and that's probably. Part of why?
That meme works too is because because the the assumption there
is that the highly intelligent is agreeing with the the the
lower IQ right And that that does show that wisdom of like
understanding the simplicity of things and understanding the
complexity of things at the sametime.
But, but, but being too pigeonholed is the, you know,

(01:14:53):
the, the, the crying wojack midwit, you know what I mean?
And you have to approach God in the same way, right?
Like with a, with a, with your heart and your mind, you know,
that's why it's important to remember that Jesus is a person,
right? And that's, that's important.
And that's, that's, that's why, that's why it's so, so profound.

(01:15:15):
We're not just talking about some, you know, abstract idea
of, of the sun or some, you know, weird thing like so
personally, I want to and you'reabsolutely right, I want to I.
Want to talk about before we before we get into pitbulls and
we're going to get in I want to talk about that because I've
seen you because no, because. And it's an interesting you
know, you're like you're it's funny, but it's also not funny

(01:15:35):
because it's it's serious. We have we have two golden
retrievers if. You want to know how I feel
about pitbulls? OK.
We have two really nice dogs, so.
Just. Oh, OK.
I just cut you off. No, no, no.
I I the. Problem is that.
Sometimes I think too much like a lawyer, and so I'm going, OK,
yeah. No, no, don't read into it.

(01:15:56):
What does that mean? OK.
That means we have two really nice, friendly dogs.
Gotcha. Our daughter's autistic, so we
wanted to. Get and it's funny.
She doesn't really care about dogs.
Like she doesn't really pet themor anything.
That's awesome. But she I mean we.
She likes being. Around them, but she just
doesn't really care. It's kind of funny, by the way,
but just back to I feel like it's, it's one of.
The only one of the only characters in I guess culture.

(01:16:23):
Right now that stands for. Recognizing and respecting and
even in in some ways celebratingautism and, and recognizing that
and spreading awareness for that.
And so that's, that's another thing.
So all of us have some connection to that, whether it's
us personally or family members.And so that's, that's a common
theme too. But I I want to, I want, I

(01:16:46):
wanted to get into. The the.
The pit bulls. But I also wanted to talk to you
about the ayahuasca. What?
How? How?
Familiar are you with that? None.
Well, then you too. Well then, we've discussed.
It and we can move on the next thing yeah, I mean.
As a as a as a doctor. I know that not know ayahuasca,

(01:17:07):
but like things like psilocybin are being used, you know, you've
everyone's heard of like. Selective.
Serotonin reuptake inhibitors, SSRIs and how that may with some
people under 50% of the time help you with your mood.
Well, apparently things like psilocybin work on more long

(01:17:27):
term serotonin receptors, which is why they change your
personality, which they may havesome good success with things
like PTSD and things. So, and I think that there was
some hearings recently that they're actually, you know, they
finally lifted the federal ban on this.
I forget if that was during Trump or by enough free.
Maybe it was during Trump. I don't know what it was, but
you may hear some autistic screeching in the background.

(01:17:50):
Legit though, it's great real life, like real autistic
screeching. What was I going to say?
But yeah, hopefully so that that's my that's my doctor take
on that. I, I, I don't know specifics on
it, but you know, if there can be, if they can do it safely,
you could have folks that, that can have improvements and not
have to be on a pill for the rest of their lives, which would

(01:18:12):
be good. It's not profitable for a lot of
places. But why do you think people are
are in droves or are? Going to do like these these
psychedelics and and ayahuasca and whatnot.
What do you think's causing that?
I think that you search for. Meeting.
I mean, you've probably seen my post recently about the Maslow

(01:18:32):
hierarchy of needs. I had this aha moment where I
realized that that was a harmfullie.
Like, absolutely. Like to the point where?
I mean, I almost feel like Jordan.
Peterson when he talks about. Like I need to think about this
for four years before I can answer you.
Like, yeah, I do. But but I it's just profound
movement of like, I see something there and I really
want to articulate it, but I'm just, I don't, I, I work a lot.

(01:18:56):
I I see a lot. Of patients I work.
A lot. I work a little extra because
I've got debt and everything like that and I had to buy some,
you know, baller vehicles and shit.
But I, you know, I just started my big boy job three years ago.
I'm 42 years old, you know, but to say that the foundation of
you is your physiological needs,that's not true at all.

(01:19:17):
I mean, you would, you would diefor your child.
People were murdered for Christ.You would, you would skip your
physiological needs. If you're, if someone was going
to stab your wife, you jump in front of it.
That's that's completely wrong, like and and the fact that I
would post that and people are like but no, it like this is
absolutely real. It's like the fact he won't.

(01:19:40):
Laugh at that right it? Should be laughable, and it's
not as linear as as Maslow suggests.
Yeah, or, or just it's. Just like I get it on a certain
level, right, But it's completely misunderstood, like
who you are as a person. And and I have this, you know
this, it's a meme, right? But it's an idea that popped in
my head that I think the averagepeasant.

(01:20:01):
You know from the year 1100 or whatever, just pick a time would
be appalled at the level of nihilism today like just the.
Casual nihilism and. You know what, what, what makes
school shooters do what they do?And I remember talking with a
psychiatrist who told me, you know, I'm a doctor.

(01:20:22):
I've I've talked to a lot of these folks over the years who
told me that they noticed in the90s and this might have been pre
Columbine what you said. So you were born in 99.
Yes. Yeah.
So that's combine so that you you.
Grew up in the. Era of this you're.
It's all I know. Yeah, you're.
Yeah, you're familiar with it. I mean, people look.

(01:20:42):
Look it up. Like people used to shoot at
school, like they were like rifle classes that like, you
know, college or high schools and like, you know, rural areas
and stuff. Like no one was shooting each
other. But I think that there was like,
there's like this casual nihilism, you know, I mean, of
of course, human nature and religion have done terrible

(01:21:03):
things, but the, what have we replaced that with, you know,
but I, I think that there's justa casual nihilism out there
that's awful, you know, and I get it.
You don't want to be cheesy, right?
And I, I have not always been very religious.
I grew up, I, I'm, I'm Catholic,I went to Catholic school,
right? But it was just the milieu I
grew up in. It just was normal, right?

(01:21:23):
But I intellectually entertainedideas of atheism and
agnosticism. But then I that that that's not
who we are. We're not just, you know, like
the, the periodic table of elements is not the real world,
right? We live in this.
We live in this world of atoms, but also symbols and and
meaning. Meaning is the foundation,

(01:21:44):
right? And the hole is greater than the
sum of its parts, you know? Yeah.
I know, but but meaning is the foundation that that's what's.
Important the Spirit. The Spirit is the fact that you
can go left or right and you choose one right.
It's not just that your. Atom's moving in a.
Direction and it makes you almost wonder that your maybe
your brain actually works on a quantum level.
Probably we'll find out, you know, and so you know there's

(01:22:05):
someone you know. When we.
Talk about, you know, a poo and and friends and stuff.
You know, that's a, that's a, that's a spiritual entity,
right? And there's a reason why I'm on
Pontalk and not on I mean, you can imagine that I've got I, I,
I, I got really popular in the BTC Bitcoin world, right?
I, I did not know much about it before I started my account, but

(01:22:25):
a lot of people liked it. I've learned a lot from them.
And you know, the reason why I'mhere on Pontalk is because I
love a poo. Well, tell, tell me more about
that. How did you actually?
Get involved with the poo. Just memes.
I'm talking about mean. Yeah, no, I'm.
I'm I'm. A mean guy, you know, And you
have to have a lot. I have a lot of affection for a
poo. What?

(01:22:46):
Why, though? Yeah.
Why is that? Because he's friendly, I'm.
I'm being honest. Here no I, I.
You know, it's just, it's that simple.
It's a positive thing. You know, like I, I don't.
You know, it's kind of a rejection of this modern.
Godlessness, this modern nihilism, it's kind of saying,

(01:23:06):
no, I'm not gonna do that. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna be, I'm
gonna be happy. And you know that I yeah, I
don't hang out. In like kind of crazy, weird
leftist leftist kind of circles,but as a, as a boomer
millennial, right? I, I sometimes do and I, it,
it's shocking to me just so I guess the millions of people out

(01:23:26):
there that are just not doing well.
Well, you know, and then when you.
And then when you find people that are like GM and then like
post a funny picture and like generally being supportive of
each other and you know not it'sthey label it radicalism.
They. Label it extremism.
Yeah, exactly. You know what it is?
If your if your frame of mind, if your belief system as they

(01:23:48):
have it, is this extreme nihilism, then I guess waking up
believing that each day can be agood day, I guess that is
radical. I guess that is it is.
No, absolutely. Symbolism matters.
Absolutely. It's powerful.
And Brian, I, I came. Out of the, the biggest, one of
the largest institutional leftist institutions in the
country. OK.
And not only did I do that, I also immersed myself in student

(01:24:10):
leadership there and somehow wasa a a a played a meaningful role
in student government and student leadership culture and
all of that. I was Georgia State University.
Georgia State University. Oh, you're in Atlanta.
Yes. Yes, so.
So it it doesn't get much more leftist than than there.
And one of the things I mean, you're, you're so right about

(01:24:32):
the the nihilism. It's such a, it's a, it's a the
problem with progressivism, and I want to, I'm going to make
this so brief, is that the ideology in and of itself
preaches subjective morality. Put simply, there is no
comparing these things. It's there are no good things or

(01:24:54):
bad things. There are just things and, and
there's no good or bad. There's no good or evil.
You can't judge another culture.There are no cultures that are
superior or inferior. They're just cultures and
everyone does what's different and whatnot.
The problem with that is that ifyou're going to say nothing is
good and nothing is bad, everything just is.
If that's you're going to be your subjective, you know, the
moral relativism and subjective morality, if that's how you're

(01:25:16):
going to do it, then you can't when you.
Say you're progressing. The concept of progress requires
you to judge and score and rank things as being better or worse.
Yeah, you have to Orient yourself in time and space to.
You know, move away from something and towards something
else. Yeah.
So it's logically impossible to.Progress, yeah, because you have

(01:25:40):
nowhere to progress. There's there's nowhere for you
to go because, because that's better.
That's just, it's just branding.Because they want to say that
you're not progressing. But it's not though, because
it's, it's, I mean, you're right.
Absolutely. It's also branding, but it's
more because it's, it's this idea of tomorrow, tomorrow,
tomorrow, like this idea that you're getting better, but also
nothing is better. And it creates this cognitive

(01:26:00):
dissonance where they can start telling you crazy things like
your your genitalia don't. Affirm or don't?
Don't. Dictate your gender, but
changing your genitalia that does that will actually do that.
Like these things that should bemind breakingly stupid just on
its face. It doesn't matter.
Whether you're pro or against isirrelevant.
By the way. You can be pro, you can be anti.

(01:26:21):
It's not even the point if you're if you are pro trans by
the way you should be saying this doesn't make any sense.
We need better arguments. So I'm not even here to to
dictate one way or the other. Satan is incoherent.
Well, and so and so. And that's my.
Point though, so. So it's on its face, it is
absurd and you must have a nihilistic approach to it.

(01:26:43):
And so I, I took one good look at it and I'm, I'm grateful
because I have, I'm in so many different, I have all these
different sort of boxes I could fit in.
You know, I'm too, I'm too much of this for the right, too much
of that for the left. So where it positioned me in a
way where I was like, yeah, all this is garbage, you know, like
the progressivism is garbage, the fanatic.

(01:27:05):
And, and so, and so I, I ultimately I'm a part of this,
this group of people, which I think accounts for the vast
majority of people that are identify as on the right because
there's just nowhere else for them to go.
There's just nothing else. Not that there's, I don't think
there's anything wrong inherently with the right or the
left inherently, but that's justhow things.
Yeah. I mean, it fascinates me.
You know, now that I'm a 42 yearold guy, I can see how like

(01:27:30):
generations. Change how kind of the world
changes. And then just it's kind of
hopefully I'll stay healthy and no tragedy and, you know, live
many more decades. It's really fascinating to
watch. Exactly.
That's important. Yes, that's important to say.
You know, it's sad the amount ofpeople.
Out there that are like. Right now they're having a
podcast talking about how this is the worst timeline and we

(01:27:52):
should just die. It's like it's there's like
there's this terrible amount of even on the right.
There's a lot of folks, you know, out there and I get it.
Like, yeah, 42 years. I love you guys.
What are you saying? Someone the.
The chiro on the bottom now. Next to me says, you know,
disrespect. They're 42 years.
That actually sounds like something I would post.

(01:28:12):
Dude, that's pretty good. No, but this is all important.
And this does tie into a poo. That's part of the memetic
nature of it. You know, like, I mean, there's
a reason why, you know, when you're talking about this, like,
you know, technology and these things and use you, you pick a
symbol, it's like, OK, well, like, what are we going to rally
around? You know, and, and, you know,

(01:28:33):
I've I've been doing this for years.
I've never agreed to do one of these because I don't want to
get pigeonholed into something. But but, but I'm, you know, I, I
love a poo, so that's awesome. Yeah, we gotta.
That's why we gotta get. You one of these?
We gotta get you. Yeah, I mean you've.
Got you've. Got you've got a mimetic friend
in. Me, I just, you know, it's
amazing. That means that means it really
means a lot to us. Do we?
Have time to talk about pit bulls.

(01:28:54):
I don't know how much time we have with you.
I mean, it's, you know, it's fine.
I. It's kind of a weird night
anyway, so I'm just. Gonna eat dinner and go to
sleep. I got it.
I'm getting up at like 5 although I'm I'm I don't have to
be at work till it's fine. I'll just do a lot of stuff from
him. In the morning.
Here's the thing. We're just, we're going to,
we're going to touch on it very.Briefly, I want to, yeah.

(01:29:16):
What's your Here's the thing, I.Think that the pro Pitbull
argument yeah I I'm not pro Pitbull but I'm not anti Pitbull
because I'm pro I'm pro Second Amendment I love guns yeah I I I
want to talk about that too yeahbecause that.
Because you're right, you're right, I know where you're
going. So you got the legal mind.
So a, a doctor and a lawyer walkinto a podcast, right?
So that's, that's what's going on right now.

(01:29:38):
So you're right. What, what people are going to
say is if you have a gun in yourhome, statistically, your kids
are going to shoot themselves, blah, blah, blah.
And then we're going to say, well, if you have a Pitbull in
your home, statistically, blah, blah, blah, it's OK, I don't
care. They're dangerous, right?
I, I, I have a lot of people that love them, right?
I'm just going to come out and just say it, right?
That's great. Not my Pitbull until it is.

(01:29:59):
They're, they're disproportionately dangerous.
There's something going on there.
I would not trust them around my, my child, right.
And what is, what is this called?
Are these the ones that attack wolves or something?
I forget, I forget what that one's called thing we're looking
at right now. This like weird this weird.
Polar bear that has its face stretched out.
Yeah. I don't know the names.
It's like a yeah, I don't remember.

(01:30:19):
Yeah. But.
Yeah. So all I know is that I think
the Second Amendment and pit bulls go together very nicely.
I also, I think so too. But my my.
Immediate my immediate knee jerkreaction to my an argument.
I'm not talking about just murdering dogs, but if a dog
attacked. Me then I would use the Second
Amendment. Oh, that's so funny.
No. So my I mean my immediate.
Argument against myself is the Constitution does not guarantee

(01:30:42):
you a right to have pit bulls. That's just the first thing that
I'd say against my my ridiculousargument.
But here's the thing, I think that the comparison where it's
worth looking at is I think you should be allowed to own certain
animals if you have the license to do so, because I, I also
don't want just anybody walking around with a firearm.

(01:31:05):
I there are certain felons that they've lost that that right.
So I think that there should be a These memes are killing me.
Yeah, these are killing me. I think that.
It's true. I think it is like. 2/3.
Of all dog attacks, yeah, there's.
Something's wrong with the breed, but I'll.
Tell you that it's also it just doesn't.

(01:31:27):
Most people shouldn't have pit bulls.
They just shouldn't. Well dude, so not as much as pit
bulls, but apparently. Like and I could be wrong on
this, but apparently Dalmatians.Bite a lot too now.
That might be because they're mean.
They're mean. They're very mean, you know, So
I wouldn't. Get a Dalmatian.
With my child, you know, becauseI'm in the high risk environment

(01:31:49):
of having like an autistic kid and I want to be careful.
So, you know, that's why when weopened up this topic, I said I
we have two, we have English creams.
We used to have the standard golden, but we have two English
creams right now, Graham and Kane.
Wait, what's this? They're very peaceful.
That one was a child. Yeah, I mean, they're gonna get
mean because it's. True, it's happening.

(01:32:11):
What's weird is that you may have, I don't know, but you may
have weird leftists or something.
I'll know that are like no, thisisn't true.
Like, OK, it's like, you know, well, the the the proclivity of
the left is to protect the the margins, right, to expand the
margins and protect those on themargins.
And they so they just see them as like vulnerable or something.

(01:32:32):
It's like, OK, well your kids are vulnerable too.
You know, I think I think that with the pit bulls, I think the.
Wrong people are are, Yeah. And I think that.
I think that they're for all. Dangerous dogs I love Akitas,
for example, the American Akitas, one of my favorite dog
breeds of all time. It's a it's also a dangerous
dog. It's it's, well, it's it's yeah,
it's in the same category that insurance companies don't like.

(01:32:54):
And they similar to Sheba, they.Are the more.
Yes, but they're they're the wolf wolfier version.
So you have the wolf and then the wolf splits into Huskies and
Akitas and then and then the rest of the dogs.
It is. So they're a little bigger.
Yeah, they're especially. Yeah, they're they're, they're
bigger. They're more aggressive.
They still got the pointy ears though.
Yeah, they're absolutely. Yes, especially the American

(01:33:16):
Akitas. It's.
Like it's the, I think it's the best dog breed of all time.
But anyways, the, I guess what I'm trying to get at here is
just that these are more dangerous breeds.
And with great power comes greatresponsibility.
And and you have to account for the fact that who who is really
who's buying these dogs and whatare they doing with them there?
There's there's part of that too.

(01:33:36):
But you know, it's the saddest stories are, Oh my God, he.
Was great for eight years until he ate the toddler right.
Like that's ridiculous. So it's.
I'm funny because it's absurd. But it's it's.
It happens. I I do I've done many dog bite
cases and I say many it's many. I go after the few career the
the short career. I've only been an an attorney
for like 8 months. Thank you.

(01:33:58):
But I've I've. Had quite a quite a.
Bit of experience with dog bites.
That's Augmentin by the way. If you get bit by a dog, that's
the. Antibiotic you need say it
again. Augmentin That's the.
Antibiotic you need if you get bit by.
A dog or dogmentin, you can callit amoxicillin, Clavulanic acid.
Yeah. I mean, you're doctoring I'm or
you're lawyering. I'm doctoring just to be funny.

(01:34:18):
That's what we should be doing. Brian.
Thank you SO. Much If you could leave the
audience as just one thing, whatwould it be?
Low Omega 6. Diet, I didn't even get into a
lot of stuff, but we're you know, the point of this was to
have a good time, right? You know you, you, you, you.
Should love a poo you. Should eat a Omega 6 diet.

(01:34:39):
You should love the Lord your God Jesus Christ because he's a
real person and God. You know just the basics right?
Sea dolls are bad, butter is good.
Go all in. Yeah.
Risk. Yeah, Telesu.
Risk ego death and reject nihilism.
Reject. Nihilism and become a better.

(01:35:01):
Person. I love this.
This is amazing, Brian. Thank you.
So much man, I, I really, I really appreciate it.
It's been amazing. And thanks, Blue.
Yeah, have a wonderful night. And and good.
Luck, I know. You have a lot of work you're
going to do. Yeah.
My my my. Wife was busy up till 7, so was
I. So like I think, I think she
texted me at 8. Like are you still doing it?
I'm like, yeah, but I'm having fun.

(01:35:21):
This is important. So.
And this is good. This is good.
Yes. Room, you know, this is good.
This is good energy. It's good stuff to put out
there. So I appreciate you having me.
So God bless. Absolutely.
And we and we'd be happy to haveyou again anytime.
For a more concentrated discussion, I'm going to go buy
some more oils and and see what I can.
Don't eat Chick-fil-A, no. Chick-fil-A, dude, Chick-fil-A

(01:35:43):
sauce is basically just soybean oil.
All right, so I'll, I'll pull upsome memes.
I'll post them. Sounds good, man.
Sounds good. If I go out I just get a plain.
If I go out somewhere, I'll. Just get like a plain burger,
you know, We didn't talk about, we didn't talk about CD app.
Can we talk about CD app Real? Quick, so it's funny.
OK, I don't. Know if I'm ready to, but Long
story short, we've worked on this with very different,

(01:36:04):
different people. We finally found someone that a
knows what they're doing and B actually wants it to work.
Those are important things, Mom,to be able to use it.
Yeah, we want, I mean. To really circle it around, the
point is the app's got to be boomer friendly or else it
doesn't work. And it is, by the way,
Apparently it's in the store right now.
I. Can I can I tell them or no?
Sure, I mean so so the why? Would you say something nice?

(01:36:26):
I only have. Nice things to.
Say and I and I and it's. Not because I'm getting paid and
I'm not getting paid. Yeah, I think we, we were just
texting about this today. I think we.
I don't think you have to make an account.
I think it's like pretty simple.It's the most friendly thing
I've ever used. On a phone you go to just look
for CD app, OK, It says why? Yeah, it's this one.
It's this one. You're gonna get this one.

(01:36:47):
It works dude, You just showed. That to me the first time I
haven't even seen that in there because I'm not kidding they
actually launched that today. I think that just hit today.
This is what you want? Okay, it's so.
Awesome. This is a total coincidence, by
the way. We did.
Not time this you did not inviteme on here to launch this,
right? No, no, no.
Yeah not at all. So I I.
And I'm using it. I've been using it today.

(01:37:08):
So you just open it, you go for cooking and oils and fats for
any kind of product basically, or, or well, not any kind of
product. But did you sign up yet?
I don't even know what's launched.
There's no sign. Up you download, you open it and
that's. It and then if you want to use
the more I love how I'm explaining to you how your app
works Well, I'm like, yeah 'cause it's this is ghost launch
like. Literally, we were just going to
else put it out there so, you know, have people test it.

(01:37:29):
Yeah. So I'll give people a total
coincidence that you're you're hosting this.
And you downloaded it. Yourself.
Well, because I, I, I do believein this.
And I and I. Look, I've I've been I've been
on a weight loss journey since last September.
I've lost about 70 lbs and I'm still doing it.
I'm good job. I'm thank you, thank you and
some. The job's not.
Done mission isn't is finished, but we're we're getting there
and I really want to make like meaningful changes anyway, So
you download the app, you just open it.

(01:37:50):
It's really simple. The first thing I want to do is
I want to click let's do bagels and muffins.
So you click bagels and muffins,OK, and it'll show you the
closest things to you where you can get them that that the free
version anyways that there is there's seed oils in those and
then you can get the a full access for an annual plan or a
monthly plan at a really affordable rate, in my opinion.
OK. And then you you unlock all

(01:38:11):
these other. Products and it shows you the.
Closest the closest seed oil free products that you're
looking for and it's just all ofthese products.
There's still many. It's like there's so this is the
options. Yeah.
So this is the ghost. Launch like literally I'm I'm
I'm serious like I this is a total coincidence.
This is awesome. This is awesome pro and I love

(01:38:32):
it. So we've been trying to do this
for about like, I don't know, three years and this is this is
this is literally like the thirdtry.
Like it just our first group we did it with wouldn't work. 2nd.
Group we didn't with didn't work.
Now we've got someone that's great that's like kind of part
of the main team that's that's doing the work in this, which is

(01:38:53):
awesome and we're getting work. We have like a good deal for
him. So the guy putting the work into
this is going to do well if it does well, right.
We're just take care of folks. And the idea was, how do you
make something simple enough that your boomer family can go
and find seal free stuff? Now, I don't think you should
live off of seal free packaged foods.
But even if you're cooking with Whole Foods, most of the time,

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you're going to want a cracker, you're going to want a sauce,
you're going to want it. Like that's just the reality,
right? That it's easy to like overdo
things. So the idea of seed old CD, even
three years ago when I first thought of it, I really wish
that this product was out in 2021 or two, you know, but it's
just it's still needed. So that's why we have it out
there. I think right now we've got
Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, someone else, but because of the

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way it works, we want to just get that out there first and
then start adding things. This is Apple right now.
We don't have Android yet, but that could be the next thing
pretty soon. But once you get things rolling
and it becomes real, then it's easier just to really put some
stuff in. So and and you can sort it by
grocers, you can sort it by. Brand, by the way, here you have
Kroger, Wegmans, Whole Foods andyeah, Wegmans, that's it.

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Yeah, Yeah. All these brands here.
Yeah, and I, I, I want everyone.Who's watching?
Go download that app and use it.If you love it, leave a great
review 'cause it really is. He's he's doing God's work.
Thanks, dude. God bless.
Thank you so much. That's a.
Of course. Coincidence.
Yeah, Good timing. Yeah.
Well, hey, everything happens for a reason, Brian.
It's been. Amazing.
Thank you so, so much for joining us and have a wonderful
night. Thanks man, God bless.

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Have a good night. Take care.
You too, alright. Bye, bye guys.
That was seed oil. Disrespector.
What a guy. What a friend.
He loves the meme just 'cause heloves the meme.
I mean he loves APU because of the meme.
It's a meme and he is friendly. I'm going to say we're going to
close out here in just a second.I just want to tell everyone you
guys are the best part of pon talk without you, there is no
pon talk and this is pon talk and my name is blue.

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I'm the host of pon talk. The only meme show, the meme
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