April 26, 2025 • 44 mins
Join us for the first episode of Popcorn Unscripted, where we take a trip back to 1985 to explore the classic Back to the Future! In this episode, we dive into the time-traveling adventure that made us all fall in love with Marty McFly, Doc Brown, and the DeLorean. From unforgettable characters to epic moments, we’re sharing our unfiltered thoughts and reactions. Whether you’re revisiting this classic or watching it for the first time, grab your popcorn and let’s break down this iconic film!
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The podcast where we dive into movies and TV shows
with no scripts, no filters,just real talk and plenty of
popcorn.
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I'm Bailey.
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And I'm Dylan.
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We're here to talk about everything we love.
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And love to hate.
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In pop culture.
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Sit back.
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And let's get this show started.
Well, episode one, Dylan.
How are you feeling?
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
I don't know.
To be fair, this is kind of thefirst time we both have done
something like this to beginwith.
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I mean, we've both done streaming before, so it's
not the first time we've talkedin a mic, per se.
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Well, not into a mic, but at the same time for
basically talking into the voidand not having something respond
back to us.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
That is very fair.
So, we are doing Back to theFuture.
So, first things first, what isour first impressions?
I
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was going to time it.
I was going to try to time it.
Where he just paused.
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He's got the record over here.
Yeah, I
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forgot that this one dropped slower compared to my
other one, so...
Beauty of being unscripted,everyone.
SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
Yep, very much beautiful.
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You get to hear all of our screw-ups, pretty much.
So
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it's like, we grew up with this trilogy, so we are
probably going to be a bitbiased with it.
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Probably hugely biased, especially me, because
that's my favorite movie.
The Back to the Future trilogyis my favorite movie of all
time.
In my opinion, no movie...
All three or just one?
All three.
I love all three.
Mom hates the third one.
She does not like that one.
I love all three perfectly.
But granted, I think it's alsobecause Pawpaw used to love
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watching westerns and I used towatch a bunch of them with him
as a kid.
So I'm used to the whole westernaesthetic for that movie.
And it's very...
I don't know how to put this...
It's very...
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Nostalgic.
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Yeah, very nostalgic, but also it flows
just like an actual western,like the old movies and TV
shows.
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Such as Gunsmoke and
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things like that.
Yeah, I couldn't think of the
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name for a second.
There's so many.
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Gunsmoke and all that
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stuff.
So I guess here would be thefirst question, because we're
going to go through the firstfilm in this episode.
What would you remember...
Your first impressions beingwhen you watched it as a kid.
Do you remember what you feltwhen you were watching it as a
kid?
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It's hard to really remember, honestly, because when
I first watched it, I was, Iwant to say eight years old.
And that was the very first timeI ever got introduced to Back to
the Future because of my PapaJim.
He's the one that introduced itto me and I grew up loving the
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movie ever since because ofthat.
So I would say very invested andvery just fell in love with the
movie along with all the kind ofold school stuff, retro, all
that stuff because of it.
I think that's why I've stuck soclose to the retro equipment and
everything.
SPEAKER_00 (03:23):
Oh yeah, that's for sure.
I don't really remember mychildhood that much, so I don't
remember when I watched it, butI knew that I fell in love with
just the whole concept of timetravel and stuff because of Back
to the Future and just the wholescience fiction thing.
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stuff in general.
I just fell in love with itbecause of Back to the Future.
So this is kind of a very bignostalgic thing for us.
So I guess we had re-watched themovie yesterday.
And so I guess what would be ourfirst impressions now watching
it now that we're older andwe're able to see new things
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since we're older and we arewiser and we're able to pick out
different things now.
So it's like...
What did we discover now that wedidn't discover when we were
kids?
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Let's see.
Probably because a lot of thestuff that we didn't recognize
as kids.
There was a lot of stuff that,looking back on it, it amazes me
that some of the scenes wedidn't pick out certain stuff.
Like, for example, near the endof the movie, the movie theater
that Marty crashes into whencoming back to 1985...
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That building is actuallyalready boarded up and not in
use.
So it's kind of convenient.
He crashed into the one buildingthat was
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already abandoned.
Yeah.
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That was very convenient.
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It is very, very convenient.
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And the fact that the aerobics place was the old
diner in 1955.
Yeah,
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we did notice that.
We did notice that.
It
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took me a second to register.
Oh, wait, it's the same placenext to Texaco.
Why did I not notice that as akid?
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Because we're young and naive.
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Ooh, flashing lights.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Ooh, flashy lights.
Okay, so moving forward fromthat, so how do we feel, how
well do we think the moviebalanced its action and dialogue
and character development?
How well do you think the moviehad balanced that?
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I think it balanced it pretty well.
There's a lot of scenes where ithad a good amount of investment
of getting you into the scene ofwhat's going on.
For example, Doc rolling out theDeLorean and you being in awe
just like Marty is seeing it forthe very first time since he has
not seen this yet.
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He hasn't even seen Doc yet asof right now at the beginning of
the movie.
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Exactly.
He's
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only heard his voice from the phone call and that's
it.
So it all...
It very sets the scene ofgetting us invested with by
showing us also...
It puts us in the shoes of Martyof an exact same mindset of what
is this?
What is Doc showing me?
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And it's not to worry.
SPEAKER_00 (06:21):
Yeah, pretty much.
It's pretty much.
I honestly think everythingflowed very well.
It wasn't rushed.
It wasn't like, you know...
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Half-assed.
SPEAKER_00 (06:32):
Yeah, I guess you could say that.
Yeah, it just flowed really,really well, and it's...
Especially with the actionscenes.
It wasn't...
I can't think of words.
But yeah.
I don't really know how else toput that in all honesty.
I
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think it balanced it really well, especially when it
switches from the points in thestory where it wants to get you
invested and then it follows upwith some kind of small, not
even just a large action scenes,but little small snippets of it.
Like, for example, Marty tryingto get George to ask out
Lorraine in the cafeteria, andit ends up with a confrontation
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with Biff.
While there's not really anaction, it makes you think that
an action scene's about tohappen, but it's cut short.
That way it can continue on withwhat's going on.
SPEAKER_00 (07:26):
Exactly, that's right.
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While it finds the smallest ways to dive you back
in if you're starting to get...
uh like starting to tone outwhat's going on
SPEAKER_00 (07:37):
yeah yeah so it's kind of like it keeps you
engaged
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yeah
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it more so it keeps you like entertained like if you
were to have adhd and you'rejust like kind of zoning out it
it can bring you back in likefairly quickly
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yeah
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it'll it'll suck you back in
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especially the little jokes scattered about
especially from doc
SPEAKER_00 (07:57):
oh yeah god Doc said that.
I swear.
So speaking of the charactersand stuff in general, is there a
character that stood out to youthe most?
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Doc.
SPEAKER_00 (08:08):
Of course.
I knew that answer before I evenasked that.
SPEAKER_02 (08:12):
Bro, I love Christopher Lloyd.
He's the funniest man I've seenwhen there's not a comedy skit
or anything like that.
The man knows how to make a jokeand also how to set up said
joke.
SPEAKER_00 (08:26):
He really does.
He really does.
He just has that natural abilityto make anybody laugh, I think.
He just has that natural...
He's kind of like Jim Carrey ina lot of ways.
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But he does it in his own special way, and it
makes it even funnier.
The outtake, specifically, ofhim being unable to open the
door to his shop, or he couldn'tremember the line going to Yeah.
But the way he does it, it stillmakes it funny.
SPEAKER_00 (09:03):
It does.
It makes it so funny.
So speaking of just charactersin general, is there any that...
we think was like underdevelopedor just one dimensional.
I know that we were talkingabout Biff a while ago.
Yeah.
I think Biff is kind of like oneof those characters where he's
just like, he's just yourgeneric bully, you know, that's
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just like really wants to be ahot shot and he just wants to be
the talk of the town, you know,kind of like one of those kinds
of bullies.
SPEAKER_02 (09:32):
Yeah.
He definitely, uh, That wasdefinitely probably the one
downfall about his character isthat he was just
one-dimensional.
And granted, this is just in thefirst movie.
He does get a little better inthe second movie, but at the
same time, that's only inhindsight because we know of the
second.
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Exactly.
The
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first one...
He just was so one-dimensionaland just felt like the typical,
generic, tall bully, and that'sit.
SPEAKER_00 (10:00):
Mm-hmm.
And now that I'm thinking aboutit, George McFly is kind of like
one of those very generic, nerdykind of guys, too.
Mm-hmm.
And it's not like he's reallyone-dimensional.
He's just kind of like annoying.
He has his moments.
Like, he kind of has thatannoying thing about him,
especially in the way he talks,too.
SPEAKER_02 (10:22):
I think it's mainly the adult George, honestly, that
I felt kind of annoyed at times.
Yeah, I can agree.
Especially with...
SPEAKER_00 (10:29):
The laugh.
SPEAKER_02 (10:31):
Yeah, the laugh irritated me.
The laugh definitely irritatedme because of the way he does
it.
And it sounds like he's gaspingfor air because he doesn't have
enough.
He sounds like a fish out ofwater
SPEAKER_00 (10:45):
pretty much.
He does.
He really does.
It's like, why?
Do you need some water?
He needs some milk.
SPEAKER_02 (10:54):
Nah, he's already got enough of that.
Is Lorraine...
I don't know if it counts forLorraine.
Well, hell...
Jail?
No.
I'm going side characters nowbecause I was thinking of
Jailbird Joey.
SPEAKER_00 (11:13):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's side characters.
Mostly main characters is what Iwas talking about.
SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
Yeah.
Well, heck, even the sidecharacters sometimes can be
one-dimensional.
Like, for example, the threegrunts, basically, of Biff.
SPEAKER_00 (11:29):
Yeah.
That's like your usual leaderand then pack.
SPEAKER_02 (11:34):
Yeah.
But they're just so...
They looked so generic, eventhough they barely conversated
at all.
SPEAKER_00 (11:40):
Although I did like the guy with the 3D glasses.
That was pretty cool.
That was actually a pretty neatstyle choice.
SPEAKER_02 (11:48):
I do find it funny when he goes to throw a punch,
he has to jump up and then hitthe person.
SPEAKER_00 (11:52):
That was very funny.
SPEAKER_02 (11:56):
Let's see.
I'm trying to think.
Now, characters that we thinkwere kind of a...
180 compared to their pastselves, though.
SPEAKER_00 (12:10):
Oh, yeah.
Lorraine's definitely was a 180.
SPEAKER_02 (12:12):
A whole 180.
SPEAKER_00 (12:14):
Definitely a whole 180.
SPEAKER_02 (12:15):
It definitely took me until now to realize, Jesus
Christ, how horny that girl is.
Shit.
Bro, the second she saw Marty,she wanted to jump his bones.
SPEAKER_00 (12:28):
She really did.
SPEAKER_02 (12:29):
Oh, my God.
SPEAKER_00 (12:30):
It's like, watching it now, it's just like, daggum.
SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
Well, to be fair, in that scene alone, I didn't know
whether or not to beuncomfortable for Marty or what.
SPEAKER_00 (12:38):
Yeah, you don't know, because it's just like, at
the same time, you know that'shis mother.
Yeah, it's his
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mother, so it's like, how do you respond in this
situation?
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Yeah.
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I
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kind of feel bad for him.
SPEAKER_02 (12:49):
She looks completely different aside from the
hairstyle, but it's like, whatthe
SPEAKER_00 (12:54):
fuck?
Also the fact that she lookedyounger.
SPEAKER_02 (12:56):
Well, it's more so her hairstyle didn't look like
it changed whatsoever from 1955to 1985.
It looked completely the exactsame, but it's like the entire
attitude did 180.
SPEAKER_00 (13:12):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (13:13):
I never called a boy or wanted to park with a boy and
then proceeds to mention in 855that she has done this before,
or she's parked before, she'sdrunk before, she's smoked
before.
SPEAKER_00 (13:29):
Being a very hypocritical mom.
SPEAKER_02 (13:32):
Yeah.
She's probably coming from aplace of, I was in those shoes,
this screwed me up.
SPEAKER_00 (13:41):
This screwed me up.
I don't want my kids to gothrough that.
SPEAKER_02 (13:44):
Because I did notice her attitude after the changes
that Marty had done.
Her attitude in the future thenchanged because she was more
energetic and stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (13:59):
And she was also thin.
SPEAKER_02 (14:00):
Well, she was thinner, but yes.
But she looked like she had moreenergy.
SPEAKER_00 (14:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:06):
Compared to her future self, or her 85 original
self.
Not just because, but thenagain, they also did a lot of
sports.
SPEAKER_00 (14:16):
Yeah, they did.
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
Because they
SPEAKER_00 (14:17):
mentioned about doing tennis.
Yeah, they came back in withtennis rackets, and so they were
doing tennis.
SPEAKER_02 (14:22):
So she's actively staying active, so that's
probably why she also had moreenergy.
Mm-hmm.
Granted, it also makes me wonderwhat happened between...
The past self, original self,and the future self, original
self.
What happened there to causesuch a drain of energy?
Was it just dealing with George?
It
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could have been just dealing with George or the fact
that she had to...
do everything herself becauseyou see how George is.
He's not very confrontational.
He just takes what he gets.
He doesn't like to stand up forhimself.
I would imagine that's why shewould drink the vodka in order
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to cope and deal with all ofthat stuff that she has to deal
with on a daily basis becauseshe knows George isn't going to
be there for her.
You could see the way theirrelationship was in the
beginning.
He wasn't even listening toYeah,
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he was writing.
SPEAKER_00 (15:19):
He wasn't even paying attention.
He was just writing downwhatever he was writing down.
SPEAKER_02 (15:24):
Well, I think he carried on his stories of
science fiction, but he neveractively wrote it into a book
like he did in the past change,in the future change.
Because he always didn't wantpeople to look at it or anything
because he was afraid of whatthey would think.
SPEAKER_00 (15:44):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (15:45):
So while I can understand his point of view
with his past self, I cancompletely understand his past
self,
SPEAKER_00 (15:51):
honestly.
Absolutely.
It's
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just his future self, not so much.
SPEAKER_00 (15:55):
Speaking of that, how relevant or impactful were
the themes compared to today'sworld?
How do you think the themes inBack to the Future can help us
now in this world that we livein, I guess, is what...
SPEAKER_02 (16:14):
I honestly have no clue.
SPEAKER_00 (16:17):
I would take it as George would say, if you believe
in yourself, you can accomplishanything.
SPEAKER_02 (16:26):
Even though he just took that saying from Marty.
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
Because Marty
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said it to him first.
SPEAKER_00 (16:31):
Yeah, he did.
But then again, where did Martyget that from?
I
SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
think he just came up with it on himself.
Because I noticed throughout themovie, no one else has said that
to him either.
Not even Doc.
SPEAKER_00 (16:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (16:44):
So it's like one of those things that...
SPEAKER_00 (16:47):
No, his girlfriend.
SPEAKER_02 (16:49):
Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_00 (16:51):
His girlfriend.
SPEAKER_02 (16:52):
Now I remember.
Okay, I'm glad you
SPEAKER_00 (16:53):
said that.
Because she was beingencouraging to Marty there at
the beginning.
She's in...
I believe that's where he had...
I think that's where he got thatfrom.
I'm not 100% sure if sheactually said it that way,
but...
Heck
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in my...
No, it is.
It is because it was when shewas...
gave him back to his...
I just hit the mic.
It's when she gave back to hiscassette tape of what his band
had done.
SPEAKER_00 (17:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:20):
Because he was afraid that no one's going to
take it.
Which, ironically enough, saidthat, ironically enough, it was
him saying, God dang, I soundlike my dad.
SPEAKER_00 (17:31):
But, yeah.
I think that's probably thebiggest...
thing of the of the first filmis like if you can set your mind
to it you can do anything ithink that's probably like the
biggest message from the firstmovie
SPEAKER_02 (17:46):
i can't agree honestly because they're
nowadays it's kind of hard forpeople to put their mind to
something and accomplish it AndI have no room to talk because
I'm the exact same way.
SPEAKER_00 (17:56):
Well, I am also.
I'm a very big procrastinator.
I can't...
I have, like, so many projectsat home that are, like, half
done.
SPEAKER_02 (18:04):
You
SPEAKER_00 (18:05):
know this.
SPEAKER_02 (18:05):
Yeah.
And, hell, I can't say mucheither because I...
I can get the motivation attimes, but then it immediately
diminishes the second I go toactually do it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:17):
ADHD, people! Yay!
SPEAKER_02 (18:20):
Heck, I don't even know if I even have that.
I never got diagnosed with it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:24):
Well, I had gotten diagnosed with ADD, but they
have completely eradicated ADD,and it's now just three types of
ADHD, apparently.
But anyway, we've already talkedabout how the movie...
the pacing of the movie andstuff like that.
But let's get into, like, thevisuals and the actual
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cinematography.
So, like, how were the visualsin special effects?
Did they enhance the story, ordid they kind of distract from
it?
SPEAKER_02 (18:54):
I mean, I think it did really well, especially with
making it actually look like ascience fiction film.
Especially with the fire trailleft behind by the DeLorean
every time it...
transcendent in time.
Though, I will say that some ofthe fire effects, for example,
when it first went back in time,or, sorry, when he sent Einstein
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forward in time by a minute, thefire trail that went between
your legs was very obviously notbad, good.
Well,
SPEAKER_00 (19:28):
but you have to think this movie was made in
1985.
SPEAKER_02 (19:31):
Well, I mean, like, the reason I say this is because
you can tell that one wasdefinitely a was definitely set
up to be, I guess, CGI in a way.
Yeah.
But the actual ones where, whenhe was going back to 1985, that
one looked like actual realfire.
SPEAKER_00 (19:49):
Like they actually used fire for that.
SPEAKER_02 (19:51):
Yeah.
But they did use, I think theydid use parts of fire for when,
what, between your legs, butused, like, CGI when it actually
was at their feet and stuff.
Mm-hmm.
but used some parts of it to beactual real fire.
But some of it just didn'tconnect properly, and it very
looked jarring.
Yeah.
And easily to be told, hey,that's not real.
SPEAKER_00 (20:14):
Absolutely.
Yeah, I can agree.
SPEAKER_02 (20:16):
And one other scene that I re-noticed last night was
the fire on the wire afterlightning struck it.
That one you could tell was CGI,but then when it cut back to
dark, you could see actual fire.
And like just little smallpieces across the wire.
But when it first ignited, thatone you could tell was fake.
SPEAKER_00 (20:40):
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (20:42):
I mean, other than that, the special effects did
really well in every aspect.
SPEAKER_00 (20:47):
Which really, there wasn't really much to it other
than the DeLorean stuff.
There wasn't really much specialeffects to it.
SPEAKER_02 (20:54):
Well, the green screen with Marty disappearing.
SPEAKER_00 (20:57):
Well, yeah, that too.
SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
That was...
kinda bad, but at the same time,you
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
can't really do much on that.
You think it's 1985, you know,they can only do so much with
the technology they had.
SPEAKER_02 (21:06):
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (21:06):
you gotta cut some slack.
So it was probably really goodfor the time.
SPEAKER_02 (21:09):
Not to mention, yeah, it's a, I mean, to be
fair, it's a green screen.
That one you can obviously tell,because it looked like they
filmed, like, the background forit of, like, Marty just standing
there,
SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
and then they just took, and then just, like,
Lifted up his hand, and it wasjust in front of the camera.
SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
Yeah.
Yeah, that way it could...
SPEAKER_00 (21:25):
Because it didn't...
Because now that I think aboutit, it didn't look like his arm
was connected to his body whenthey, like, when he lifted up
his hand.
SPEAKER_02 (21:35):
Yeah, it looked off because of the angle it was
placed.
It did not look like it wasactually part of him.
SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:42):
But, I mean, there was only so much you could do
back then, so it's like they had
SPEAKER_00 (21:46):
to...
SPEAKER_02 (21:47):
Especially with the fact that it got rejected 40
times originally and they had todo so many changes to the actual
story
SPEAKER_01 (21:54):
and everything.
SPEAKER_02 (21:55):
Because, for example, Bailey over here didn't
know about the original sequenceto go back to 1985 with dropping
a nuclear bomb onto the DeLorean
SPEAKER_00 (22:07):
and using that to
SPEAKER_02 (22:09):
go back.
SPEAKER_00 (22:09):
Yeah, I didn't know about that.
It's like I told him last night.
I was like, I'm glad they didn'tgo with that because I don't
know how they would have donethat.
Realistically, I don't know howthey would have approached doing
that unless they would havegotten a fake DeLorean and blew
it up.
SPEAKER_02 (22:28):
Yeah, and not to mention the way it was set up.
It looked like it was just anuclear testing ground just in
the center of town pretty much.
SPEAKER_00 (22:36):
Yeah, so that would have been very odd to have in
just a random town in the middleof nowhere.
SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
Well, not to mention they're dropping it without any
precautions or anything.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
because it disintegrates everything around
it.
SPEAKER_02 (22:50):
Well, not even that.
It killed so many people in theblast.
So it's like, was there anyprecautions?
Was this just a mistake orsomething?
what happened here
SPEAKER_00 (22:59):
yeah
SPEAKER_02 (23:00):
because i you can tell this was the original way
it was supposed to go but it'slike what what did they not
evacuate the place before doingthis test or what was the game
plan there
SPEAKER_00 (23:12):
yeah so it just didn't really make sense at all
to me
SPEAKER_02 (23:16):
yeah so i'm glad they changed it to the way they
did it because it makes a lotmore sense time why timing and
scene sequence.
Because the story did not makesense with the arrow.
But granted, that's becausewe're only dealing with a small
part of that sequence.
We have no clue what led up toit.
SPEAKER_00 (23:35):
That's very true.
SPEAKER_02 (23:36):
So, hell, it could make the
SPEAKER_00 (23:38):
entire story...
It could have been a completelydifferent story for that
storyboard.
It could have been an entirelycompletely different story.
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
Yeah.
It gave me Nuketown vibes.
SPEAKER_00 (23:48):
It did what?
SPEAKER_02 (23:49):
Nuketown vibes from
SPEAKER_00 (23:50):
Black Ops 2.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So let's get into the music andthe soundtrack and stuff.
So how well did the musiccomplement the story, and did
any music feel out of place?
SPEAKER_02 (24:08):
I don't think so.
All the music fit very well andwas very well-timed.
SPEAKER_00 (24:13):
And it was very well-written, too, because the
person that wrote the soundtrackfor Back to the Future, Alan
Silvestri, he also wrote thescore for The Avengers later on
in 2012.
So I'm very familiar with hiswork.
He does really good soundtracks.
SPEAKER_02 (24:32):
And heck, I think the only...
Weird part in the soundtrack wasliterally that one scene when he
was auditioning at the talentshow.
SPEAKER_00 (24:42):
Yeah.
Yeah, that is very true.
Because his
SPEAKER_02 (24:43):
guitar riffs did not match the beat of the song
whatsoever.
He
SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
was just wanting it loud.
SPEAKER_02 (24:49):
Yeah.
Though it was very awkwardduring the Johnny B.
Goode scene.
Yes,
SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
that was very, very awkward.
It's like, what the heck are youdoing, dude?
Yeah, it
SPEAKER_02 (24:58):
was just that end part.
If that end part wasn't there,it would have been fine.
It's just very exaggerated.
SPEAKER_00 (25:05):
Yeah, very, very over-exaggerated.
But that's who Marty is.
He's like...
That's just part of hischaracter, I
SPEAKER_02 (25:12):
guess.
Because I felt like he was aboutto pull a kiss and start licking
his guitar or playing it likethat.
He
SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
almost did, I'm pretty sure, because he ended up
putting it behind his head atone point.
And heck, I'm surprised hedidn't.
SPEAKER_02 (25:25):
That would have been
SPEAKER_00 (25:25):
funny, honestly.
That would have been reallyfunny, actually.
It
SPEAKER_02 (25:29):
gets caught in between the stuff.
He's like, ow, ow, ow.
Ow,
SPEAKER_00 (25:33):
ow, ow, ow.
SPEAKER_02 (25:34):
Can I get a little help?
Or, sorry.
Can I get a little help?
SPEAKER_00 (25:39):
Okay, but speaking of...
of like characters and right inthe writing and dialogue and
kind of stuff did the writingallow for character growth or
did anything feel predictable atall i honestly don't think so i
like i said earlier i think itall flowed fairly well i don't
think there was anything thatfelt predictable or anything of
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that nature
SPEAKER_02 (26:00):
yeah i feel the same way there wasn't especially with
the uh I think it was gigawatts.
1.21 gigawatts scene with Martyshowing Doc of how the time
travel works, essentially, andhim actually being shocked at
what that meant.
(26:21):
Because it's like at the timeyou would think, oh, Doc already
knows about this because he'salready designed the flux
capacitor at this point.
So he already has this idea.
No, he was completely shockedthat his future self had set it
up like this.
SPEAKER_00 (26:41):
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (26:43):
Especially the joke about the plutonium in every
drugstore.
SPEAKER_00 (26:46):
Yeah, that, yeah.
Like, oh, I'm sure you getplutonium in every drugstore in
your future, but here it's kindof hard to come by.
SPEAKER_02 (26:55):
Well, Grant, he even had a problem.
He had to steal it from Libyans.
SPEAKER_00 (26:58):
Mm-hmm.
He did.
He absolutely did.
And
SPEAKER_02 (27:01):
parts of a pinball machine.
SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (27:05):
Which is very shocking.
They took a pinball machineparts to make the time traveling
DeLorean.
SPEAKER_00 (27:14):
No, it didn't make the DeLorean.
That's what he traded to get theplutonium.
He gave them the parts thinkingthat that was the plutonium.
Or that was whatever he hadinvented for them, and then he
took the plutonium.
SPEAKER_02 (27:30):
Oh, he wanted...
Yeah, they wanted him to makehim a bomb out of those things.
My bad.
SPEAKER_00 (27:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (27:38):
I misunderstood that part.
SPEAKER_00 (27:39):
Yeah.
But anyway, so gonna try toslowly wrap things up here.
So what was your favorite sceneand why?
What made it stand out to you?
SPEAKER_02 (27:51):
What was yours?
Um...
I would say my favorite scene,honestly, is of Doc trying to
reconnect the wiring to thelamppost.
Just because that whole sequencealone is just...
Yeah, I can agree.
It's definitely getting intensebecause DeLorean is getting
there.
The lightning's about to strikethat clock tower at any moment.
(28:13):
And Doc is trying to get thatplug to go back in and ends up
accidentally unplugging it fromthe other side, too.
So it's like there's a lot ofhigh stakes in that scene.
But also at the same time, it'sa little funny with Doc's
expressions and stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
Well, that's just a Christopher Lloyd thing, I
think.
SPEAKER_02 (28:33):
Well, it's more so, I think it's specifically the
smugness on his face when hefinally got loose enough.
And it's like, we're about toreconnect this.
And it's like, huh?
He looks and there's a tree limbholding the other side down
where he can't connect it.
And it's like...
So it's like the face that hemakes just because of that once
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he realized what just happenedis what kills me.
SPEAKER_00 (28:59):
I honestly think mine is probably when he was
shocked about how much power itwould take to do the power to
put in the flux capacitor.
I think that part is probably myfavorite.
It's just funny.
SPEAKER_02 (29:13):
1.21
SPEAKER_00 (29:14):
gigawatts! That's
SPEAKER_02 (29:17):
gross.
We're completely ignoring thejoke about Ronald Reagan.
SPEAKER_00 (29:20):
Oh, we are.
We are.
Ronald Reagan!
SPEAKER_02 (29:25):
The fact that he is so
SPEAKER_00 (29:26):
joking.
SPEAKER_02 (29:27):
And then he just proceeds to name all of
different actors as the firstlady and his vice president.
It just kills me.
SPEAKER_00 (29:34):
It's just so funny.
That is very funny.
SPEAKER_02 (29:36):
That or him using that thing to read his mind,
Marty's mind, and he's like,you've come from a long
distance.
Yes! No, don't tell me!
SPEAKER_00 (29:44):
No, don't tell me!
SPEAKER_02 (29:47):
You won't sell me a subscription! No! No! Doc, no!
There's just so many goodscenes, honestly.
It's hard to choose just onesingle scene, but there's just
so many good ones.
SPEAKER_00 (30:02):
There really is.
There really is.
SPEAKER_02 (30:04):
That's just from the first movie.
That's not counting the secondor third.
SPEAKER_00 (30:07):
That's very true.
But we've talked about ourfavorite, but do we have any
least favorite moments from themovie?
Didn't...
Or did it distract from theoverall experience?
SPEAKER_02 (30:24):
To be fair, least favorite, I don't know.
But then again, I know yourscene is during the dance where
George is walking off afterLorraine was taken, swooped in
by another guy to dance withher.
And he just turns his back andstarts walking away.
And in the very next clip...
(30:46):
He then just shoves the dudeoff, and it's like, huh?
SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
Yeah, he just has this random struck of confidence
from out of nowhere.
And I'm just like, where didthat come from?
SPEAKER_02 (30:56):
Yeah, the confidence boost with Biff, that made more
sense because he's hurting him,but at the same time, he hurts
Lorraine in the process.
SPEAKER_00 (31:06):
Yeah, so that was like a trigger.
SPEAKER_02 (31:07):
Yeah, it was like a trigger.
But the other one, what was thetrigger?
SPEAKER_00 (31:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (31:11):
He's just like, huh, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (31:13):
Because the guy wasn't hurting Lorraine either.
She was just kind of trying toget away from him.
SPEAKER_02 (31:18):
Yeah, I guess that may have been.
Maybe.
But at the same time, that couldhave been done a little bit
better.
SPEAKER_00 (31:23):
Yeah, I felt like that was just kind of like cut
and then it just went on.
It probably had
SPEAKER_02 (31:31):
a certain amount of time that they had to reach.
And they were afraid that ifthey kept too much of that scene
in, that they might go over thelap time that they required.
SPEAKER_00 (31:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (31:43):
Because there's a lot of long scenes that were
cut, like the Darth Vader scene.
SPEAKER_00 (31:48):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (31:48):
That one.
I
SPEAKER_00 (31:49):
honestly wish they would have kept that whole scene
in, because that makes so muchmore, it made so much more sense
to me.
To have that whole thing in.
SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
And
SPEAKER_00 (31:58):
how Marty got in and out of his house.
And, you know, it kind ofexplained that a bit better.
Other than him just appearingand...
SPEAKER_02 (32:08):
Saying, I'm Darth Vader.
SPEAKER_00 (32:09):
I'm Darth Vader!
SPEAKER_02 (32:11):
And then the very next scene is George running
like a headless chicken toMarty.
He's like, I'm gonna get mybrain melted if I don't ask her
out.
It's like, okay...
I wish I could have seen thatconversation, but at the same
time, I can see why it was cutout at certain points.
But, for example, the scene Iwas talking about yesterday with
(32:35):
the Lorraine cheating on a test.
SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:39):
That outtake, I think, or, yeah, outtake would
have made a lot better for thatscene because it just...
SPEAKER_00 (32:45):
It flowed right into when...
Doc was like, which one's yourpop?
SPEAKER_02 (32:50):
Yeah, and the previous scene was of them
walking up to the school.
SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:55):
And it's like, okay, what?
What?
Because it's like, walking up tothe school, doesn't even go into
the school yet.
And the very next scene is justhim already standing up next to
the wall, looking down thehallway and going, which one's
your pop?
It's like, that makes lesssense.
But with the rest of it,especially with Lorraine walking
(33:16):
past Doc, saying that she wasgoing to make an F on that
anyway, and then him actuallywalking up to Marty after
listening to that, then it makessense.
It makes that scene flow alittle bit better
SPEAKER_00 (33:30):
instead of just
SPEAKER_02 (33:31):
a random cut.
SPEAKER_00 (33:33):
Speaking of things like that, what is one thing
that you think could have madethe movie better other than what
we've just talked about?
Is there anything else you thinkcould have made the movie
better?
SPEAKER_02 (33:45):
I really don't know.
I don't
SPEAKER_00 (33:47):
really know either.
I honestly think it's a greatfilm for what it is.
A
SPEAKER_02 (33:52):
lot of the scenes that they used did well for the
movie, honestly.
It made good storytelling andeverything.
Even though we criticized a lotof some cuts and stuff, the Biff
being Biff and stuff like that.
The movie went good.
The storytelling was great.
The science fiction was reallygood, especially the way it
(34:14):
explained everything.
Because that's what I wish a lotof movies nowadays would do.
Explain your stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (34:21):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (34:22):
Hell, I can't speak.
Doug did a better job explaininghow the DeLorean works than most
of superhero movies now.
SPEAKER_01 (34:34):
That's
SPEAKER_02 (34:34):
sad when you have a movie talking about time travel
doing a better job explainingthat.
Something as convoluted as that,that no freaking developer,
developer, director can getright now.
It's always screwing upsomething else in the process.
SPEAKER_00 (34:58):
I agree.
SPEAKER_02 (34:59):
But here's Back to the Future proving that wrong,
that it's easy to just explainthe stuff instead of just
throwing the shit out there andjust expecting you to figure it
out on your own.
SPEAKER_00 (35:09):
Yeah.
Expecting you to connect thedots instead of actually telling
a story.
SPEAKER_02 (35:15):
Yeah.
Especially with each movieleading into each other and
following up directly after thelast one ended.
SPEAKER_00 (35:22):
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (35:24):
Unlike Marvel.
DC ain't freaking ain't directornowadays for some reason.
SPEAKER_00 (35:32):
For some reason, yeah.
Well, I don't necessarily haveto ask this question again, but
would you watch this again?
Why or why not?
SPEAKER_02 (35:39):
Hell yes.
Just to relive childhood,honestly, but also just to enjoy
such a great story and greatcharacters, honestly.
SPEAKER_00 (35:49):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I would definitely 100% watch itagain.
And if you haven't seen themovie, you youngins,
SPEAKER_02 (35:56):
please give it a watch.
At least once.
SPEAKER_00 (35:58):
At least once.
Just give it a try.
I know it's old, but just giveit a try.
You'll be fine.
SPEAKER_02 (36:05):
Yes, you might criticize it, but at the same
time, don't go in expectinganything.
That's what one thing that wewere talking about earlier.
Don't go into a movie expectingshit.
Otherwise that is going to setup you hating the movie in the
process if it does not meet thatexpectation.
SPEAKER_00 (36:26):
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (36:29):
I think everyone can agree that that's what ruins
movies for a lot of people ishaving that high expectation and
it crumbling massively.
aka look at a lot of the gameslately
SPEAKER_00 (36:41):
they get so overhyped and then you know it
just crumbles and falls becausethey're trying to rush because
there's so much hype over it andyou know and there's and there's
movies that end up that way toobecause i was talking about that
yesterday with the fantasticfour movie they're hyping it up
so much that i'm afraid it'sonly gonna fall
SPEAKER_02 (37:03):
Yeah, and not to mention...
SPEAKER_00 (37:04):
No matter how good it looks.
SPEAKER_02 (37:06):
A lot of people have been criticizing the movie for
some of the choices in the moviealso, but don't expect it to be
a copy and paste of the comics.
It's going to use some aspectsof it, yes.
It's not going to take everysingle little thing from the
comics.
SPEAKER_00 (37:21):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (37:21):
Otherwise, you'd be there for probably five hours,
maybe 20 hours, trying toconvolute everything.
SPEAKER_00 (37:28):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (37:28):
Hence why I think...
While at the same time, youcan't expect much from the
movies, at least give a littlebit of leniency and just not
have any expectations.
Don't hold off on any criticismor anything and don't listen to
critics or the media.
Take your mind clear and don'texpect anything.
(37:52):
Watch the movie and then giveyour critiques on it.
SPEAKER_00 (37:55):
Yeah, because it's like these days...
I don't even know what credit,like, what's the word I'm
looking for?
I'm not really sure what theircriteria is for reviewing
movies.
Slop.
Like, what is their criteriathat a movie has to meet in
(38:18):
order for them to get a goodrating?
SPEAKER_02 (38:20):
But yeah, what you're saying, criteria, there's
not...
It's unknown.
And not to mention, for example,let's take the Oscars, for
example.
That is some bull.
Because did you know they addeda new rule where they had to
watch the movies now?
SPEAKER_00 (38:35):
Yep, I did.
SPEAKER_02 (38:36):
That really just sets up how bad the critics are
and don't ever listen to them.
SPEAKER_00 (38:43):
Everybody that has to vote has to watch all of the
movies in that category in orderto vote.
Which, honestly...
I think it's kind of fair, butalso, that's a lot of content to
watch, and that's a lot ofsomebody's time.
SPEAKER_02 (39:00):
At the same time, they're named critics for a
reason.
That's what they get paid to do.
It's watch movies, write areview, that's it.
That's their job.
So if they can't even do thebare minimum of watching the
movie and just immediately doinga review and giving it negative,
or giving it positive forwhatever it was...
(39:23):
That just says a lot about whatthey expect out of movies
compared to what us as normalcustomers and viewers go to see.
SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
Exactly.
And that's the thing, too, iseverybody has their own
interests.
Everybody has their own clicksand their own things.
So it's like you can't really gooff what the critics say.
And many movies have proved thatso many times.
A good example is the FiveNights at Freddy's movie that
came out.
what, in 2023?
I think so.
(39:53):
2024?
Yeah, I
SPEAKER_02 (39:55):
think it was 2023.
SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
The critics bombed that movie, but the audience
absolutely loved it, andrightfully so, because they put
so much work into it.
SPEAKER_02 (40:05):
Especially the fact that they actually made the
characters like Freddy, Bonnie,and Chica, they actually made
them into animatronics that canswitch from animatronic mode
to...
costume mode, pretty much.
It can be doubled for certainscenes, so that way making it
easier for recording and alsomaking you remember, hey, that's
(40:28):
a robot that's supposed to bethere.
But that's also possessed by achild.
So it's like one of them things.
We might know a lot of the stufffor it.
The critics don't know anything.
SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
Because they don't care.
If they actually cared, theywould actually do...
their homework on said communityand actually give it a fair shot
and not just be like, oh, wejust didn't like it.
SPEAKER_02 (40:57):
But I will admit that's kind of unfair to ask
someone to, if they're going tosee a movie, to look at what the
source material is all the time.
Like, say, Marvel movies havingto say, if you want to enjoy
this movie, go read the comicsof that certain character.
That's very ingenuous to dobecause not a lot of people are
(41:19):
going to be interested in thesame thing.
But at the same time, don't justgo blindly hating the movie just
because it's not something youdon't know.
SPEAKER_00 (41:28):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (41:30):
For example, it's a Fantastic Four movie.
There's a lot of people hatingon the changes that they've
done.
And some, yes, can be rightfullyso.
It's jarring.
But at the same time, there'snot...
This might be pulling from thesource material of what's going
on.
And you just never know.
SPEAKER_01 (41:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (41:48):
Hell, I didn't even know there was a female silver
surfer.
But then again, I've not beenever invested in the silver
surfer as a character oranything and be invested in the
comics of that character becauseit's not something that
interests me.
SPEAKER_00 (42:03):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (42:04):
But I can see where a lot of people enjoy the
character.
I just don't.
It's not my cup of tea.
SPEAKER_00 (42:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (42:11):
But then again, I'm not used to the whole Fantastic
Four to begin with.
I will admit that.
Because I never really...
But
SPEAKER_00 (42:21):
you've watched the Sony movies.
SPEAKER_02 (42:22):
I've watched the Sony movies, yes.
But a lot of them, I have notwatched a lot of the superhero
movies that they put out.
Grant, I love the Spider-Manmovies of Tobey Maguire.
I love those.
I've watched Andrew Garfield's.
And I've watched Tom Holland's.
I've watched all versions ofSpider-Man for the movie-wise.
Mm-hmm.
Grant, I'm biased.
(42:43):
I like Tobey Maguire's better,honestly.
SPEAKER_00 (42:45):
Which I do, too.
SPEAKER_02 (42:45):
Grant, Tom's is just annoying to me because he
doesn't feel like Spider-Man.
SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (42:52):
And that's a multitude of different things,
honestly, that can be taken witha grain of salt.
People's opinions, honestly.
But at the same time, it's anopinion.
SPEAKER_00 (43:03):
That's the moral of the story.
SPEAKER_02 (43:06):
What you enjoy, someone else is not going to
enjoy.
And that's perfectly fine.
Everyone can agree to disagree,which I think everyone needs to
learn in this day and age.
Because it's always, if youdisagree with this opinion, I
hate you or anything like that.
No.
Take it with a grain of salt.
Enjoy what you want to enjoy.
(43:27):
Let them enjoy what they want toenjoy.
It's not mutually exclusive.
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And let's get this show started.
Well, episode one, Dylan.
How are you feeling?
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
I don't know.
To be fair, this is kind of thefirst time we both have done
something like this to beginwith.
SPEAKER_00 (00:32):
I mean, we've both done streaming before, so it's
not the first time we've talkedin a mic, per se.
SPEAKER_02 (00:38):
Well, not into a mic, but at the same time for
basically talking into the voidand not having something respond
back to us.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
That is very fair.
So, we are doing Back to theFuture.
So, first things first, what isour first impressions?
I
SPEAKER_02 (01:00):
was going to time it.
I was going to try to time it.
Where he just paused.
SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
He's got the record over here.
Yeah, I
SPEAKER_02 (01:12):
forgot that this one dropped slower compared to my
other one, so...
Beauty of being unscripted,everyone.
SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
Yep, very much beautiful.
SPEAKER_02 (01:21):
You get to hear all of our screw-ups, pretty much.
So
SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
it's like, we grew up with this trilogy, so we are
probably going to be a bitbiased with it.
SPEAKER_02 (01:33):
Probably hugely biased, especially me, because
that's my favorite movie.
The Back to the Future trilogyis my favorite movie of all
time.
In my opinion, no movie...
All three or just one?
All three.
I love all three.
Mom hates the third one.
She does not like that one.
I love all three perfectly.
But granted, I think it's alsobecause Pawpaw used to love
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watching westerns and I used towatch a bunch of them with him
as a kid.
So I'm used to the whole westernaesthetic for that movie.
And it's very...
I don't know how to put this...
It's very...
SPEAKER_00 (02:10):
Nostalgic.
SPEAKER_02 (02:10):
Yeah, very nostalgic, but also it flows
just like an actual western,like the old movies and TV
shows.
SPEAKER_00 (02:18):
Such as Gunsmoke and
SPEAKER_02 (02:21):
things like that.
Yeah, I couldn't think of the
SPEAKER_00 (02:23):
name for a second.
There's so many.
SPEAKER_02 (02:25):
Gunsmoke and all that
SPEAKER_00 (02:27):
stuff.
So I guess here would be thefirst question, because we're
going to go through the firstfilm in this episode.
What would you remember...
Your first impressions beingwhen you watched it as a kid.
Do you remember what you feltwhen you were watching it as a
kid?
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
It's hard to really remember, honestly, because when
I first watched it, I was, Iwant to say eight years old.
And that was the very first timeI ever got introduced to Back to
the Future because of my PapaJim.
He's the one that introduced itto me and I grew up loving the
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movie ever since because ofthat.
So I would say very invested andvery just fell in love with the
movie along with all the kind ofold school stuff, retro, all
that stuff because of it.
I think that's why I've stuck soclose to the retro equipment and
everything.
SPEAKER_00 (03:23):
Oh yeah, that's for sure.
I don't really remember mychildhood that much, so I don't
remember when I watched it, butI knew that I fell in love with
just the whole concept of timetravel and stuff because of Back
to the Future and just the wholescience fiction thing.
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stuff in general.
I just fell in love with itbecause of Back to the Future.
So this is kind of a very bignostalgic thing for us.
So I guess we had re-watched themovie yesterday.
And so I guess what would be ourfirst impressions now watching
it now that we're older andwe're able to see new things
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since we're older and we arewiser and we're able to pick out
different things now.
So it's like...
What did we discover now that wedidn't discover when we were
kids?
SPEAKER_02 (04:19):
Let's see.
Probably because a lot of thestuff that we didn't recognize
as kids.
There was a lot of stuff that,looking back on it, it amazes me
that some of the scenes wedidn't pick out certain stuff.
Like, for example, near the endof the movie, the movie theater
that Marty crashes into whencoming back to 1985...
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That building is actuallyalready boarded up and not in
use.
So it's kind of convenient.
He crashed into the one buildingthat was
SPEAKER_00 (04:50):
already abandoned.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
That was very convenient.
SPEAKER_00 (04:54):
It is very, very convenient.
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
And the fact that the aerobics place was the old
diner in 1955.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (05:03):
we did notice that.
We did notice that.
It
SPEAKER_02 (05:05):
took me a second to register.
Oh, wait, it's the same placenext to Texaco.
Why did I not notice that as akid?
SPEAKER_00 (05:12):
Because we're young and naive.
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
Ooh, flashing lights.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Ooh, flashy lights.
Okay, so moving forward fromthat, so how do we feel, how
well do we think the moviebalanced its action and dialogue
and character development?
How well do you think the moviehad balanced that?
SPEAKER_02 (05:33):
I think it balanced it pretty well.
There's a lot of scenes where ithad a good amount of investment
of getting you into the scene ofwhat's going on.
For example, Doc rolling out theDeLorean and you being in awe
just like Marty is seeing it forthe very first time since he has
not seen this yet.
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He hasn't even seen Doc yet asof right now at the beginning of
the movie.
SPEAKER_00 (05:58):
Exactly.
He's
SPEAKER_02 (05:59):
only heard his voice from the phone call and that's
it.
So it all...
It very sets the scene ofgetting us invested with by
showing us also...
It puts us in the shoes of Martyof an exact same mindset of what
is this?
What is Doc showing me?
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And it's not to worry.
SPEAKER_00 (06:21):
Yeah, pretty much.
It's pretty much.
I honestly think everythingflowed very well.
It wasn't rushed.
It wasn't like, you know...
SPEAKER_02 (06:31):
Half-assed.
SPEAKER_00 (06:32):
Yeah, I guess you could say that.
Yeah, it just flowed really,really well, and it's...
Especially with the actionscenes.
It wasn't...
I can't think of words.
But yeah.
I don't really know how else toput that in all honesty.
I
SPEAKER_02 (06:52):
think it balanced it really well, especially when it
switches from the points in thestory where it wants to get you
invested and then it follows upwith some kind of small, not
even just a large action scenes,but little small snippets of it.
Like, for example, Marty tryingto get George to ask out
Lorraine in the cafeteria, andit ends up with a confrontation
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with Biff.
While there's not really anaction, it makes you think that
an action scene's about tohappen, but it's cut short.
That way it can continue on withwhat's going on.
SPEAKER_00 (07:26):
Exactly, that's right.
SPEAKER_02 (07:28):
While it finds the smallest ways to dive you back
in if you're starting to get...
uh like starting to tone outwhat's going on
SPEAKER_00 (07:37):
yeah yeah so it's kind of like it keeps you
engaged
SPEAKER_02 (07:40):
yeah
SPEAKER_00 (07:41):
it more so it keeps you like entertained like if you
were to have adhd and you'rejust like kind of zoning out it
it can bring you back in likefairly quickly
SPEAKER_02 (07:51):
yeah
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
it'll it'll suck you back in
SPEAKER_02 (07:54):
especially the little jokes scattered about
especially from doc
SPEAKER_00 (07:57):
oh yeah god Doc said that.
I swear.
So speaking of the charactersand stuff in general, is there a
character that stood out to youthe most?
SPEAKER_02 (08:07):
Doc.
SPEAKER_00 (08:08):
Of course.
I knew that answer before I evenasked that.
SPEAKER_02 (08:12):
Bro, I love Christopher Lloyd.
He's the funniest man I've seenwhen there's not a comedy skit
or anything like that.
The man knows how to make a jokeand also how to set up said
joke.
SPEAKER_00 (08:26):
He really does.
He really does.
He just has that natural abilityto make anybody laugh, I think.
He just has that natural...
He's kind of like Jim Carrey ina lot of ways.
SPEAKER_02 (08:43):
But he does it in his own special way, and it
makes it even funnier.
The outtake, specifically, ofhim being unable to open the
door to his shop, or he couldn'tremember the line going to Yeah.
But the way he does it, it stillmakes it funny.
SPEAKER_00 (09:03):
It does.
It makes it so funny.
So speaking of just charactersin general, is there any that...
we think was like underdevelopedor just one dimensional.
I know that we were talkingabout Biff a while ago.
Yeah.
I think Biff is kind of like oneof those characters where he's
just like, he's just yourgeneric bully, you know, that's
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just like really wants to be ahot shot and he just wants to be
the talk of the town, you know,kind of like one of those kinds
of bullies.
SPEAKER_02 (09:32):
Yeah.
He definitely, uh, That wasdefinitely probably the one
downfall about his character isthat he was just
one-dimensional.
And granted, this is just in thefirst movie.
He does get a little better inthe second movie, but at the
same time, that's only inhindsight because we know of the
second.
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
Exactly.
The
SPEAKER_02 (09:51):
first one...
He just was so one-dimensionaland just felt like the typical,
generic, tall bully, and that'sit.
SPEAKER_00 (10:00):
Mm-hmm.
And now that I'm thinking aboutit, George McFly is kind of like
one of those very generic, nerdykind of guys, too.
Mm-hmm.
And it's not like he's reallyone-dimensional.
He's just kind of like annoying.
He has his moments.
Like, he kind of has thatannoying thing about him,
especially in the way he talks,too.
SPEAKER_02 (10:22):
I think it's mainly the adult George, honestly, that
I felt kind of annoyed at times.
Yeah, I can agree.
Especially with...
SPEAKER_00 (10:29):
The laugh.
SPEAKER_02 (10:31):
Yeah, the laugh irritated me.
The laugh definitely irritatedme because of the way he does
it.
And it sounds like he's gaspingfor air because he doesn't have
enough.
He sounds like a fish out ofwater
SPEAKER_00 (10:45):
pretty much.
He does.
He really does.
It's like, why?
Do you need some water?
He needs some milk.
SPEAKER_02 (10:54):
Nah, he's already got enough of that.
Is Lorraine...
I don't know if it counts forLorraine.
Well, hell...
Jail?
No.
I'm going side characters nowbecause I was thinking of
Jailbird Joey.
SPEAKER_00 (11:13):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's side characters.
Mostly main characters is what Iwas talking about.
SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
Yeah.
Well, heck, even the sidecharacters sometimes can be
one-dimensional.
Like, for example, the threegrunts, basically, of Biff.
SPEAKER_00 (11:29):
Yeah.
That's like your usual leaderand then pack.
SPEAKER_02 (11:34):
Yeah.
But they're just so...
They looked so generic, eventhough they barely conversated
at all.
SPEAKER_00 (11:40):
Although I did like the guy with the 3D glasses.
That was pretty cool.
That was actually a pretty neatstyle choice.
SPEAKER_02 (11:48):
I do find it funny when he goes to throw a punch,
he has to jump up and then hitthe person.
SPEAKER_00 (11:52):
That was very funny.
SPEAKER_02 (11:56):
Let's see.
I'm trying to think.
Now, characters that we thinkwere kind of a...
180 compared to their pastselves, though.
SPEAKER_00 (12:10):
Oh, yeah.
Lorraine's definitely was a 180.
SPEAKER_02 (12:12):
A whole 180.
SPEAKER_00 (12:14):
Definitely a whole 180.
SPEAKER_02 (12:15):
It definitely took me until now to realize, Jesus
Christ, how horny that girl is.
Shit.
Bro, the second she saw Marty,she wanted to jump his bones.
SPEAKER_00 (12:28):
She really did.
SPEAKER_02 (12:29):
Oh, my God.
SPEAKER_00 (12:30):
It's like, watching it now, it's just like, daggum.
SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
Well, to be fair, in that scene alone, I didn't know
whether or not to beuncomfortable for Marty or what.
SPEAKER_00 (12:38):
Yeah, you don't know, because it's just like, at
the same time, you know that'shis mother.
Yeah, it's his
SPEAKER_02 (12:43):
mother, so it's like, how do you respond in this
situation?
UNKNOWN (12:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (12:48):
I
SPEAKER_00 (12:48):
kind of feel bad for him.
SPEAKER_02 (12:49):
She looks completely different aside from the
hairstyle, but it's like, whatthe
SPEAKER_00 (12:54):
fuck?
Also the fact that she lookedyounger.
SPEAKER_02 (12:56):
Well, it's more so her hairstyle didn't look like
it changed whatsoever from 1955to 1985.
It looked completely the exactsame, but it's like the entire
attitude did 180.
SPEAKER_00 (13:12):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (13:13):
I never called a boy or wanted to park with a boy and
then proceeds to mention in 855that she has done this before,
or she's parked before, she'sdrunk before, she's smoked
before.
SPEAKER_00 (13:29):
Being a very hypocritical mom.
SPEAKER_02 (13:32):
Yeah.
She's probably coming from aplace of, I was in those shoes,
this screwed me up.
SPEAKER_00 (13:41):
This screwed me up.
I don't want my kids to gothrough that.
SPEAKER_02 (13:44):
Because I did notice her attitude after the changes
that Marty had done.
Her attitude in the future thenchanged because she was more
energetic and stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (13:59):
And she was also thin.
SPEAKER_02 (14:00):
Well, she was thinner, but yes.
But she looked like she had moreenergy.
SPEAKER_00 (14:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:06):
Compared to her future self, or her 85 original
self.
Not just because, but thenagain, they also did a lot of
sports.
SPEAKER_00 (14:16):
Yeah, they did.
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
Because they
SPEAKER_00 (14:17):
mentioned about doing tennis.
Yeah, they came back in withtennis rackets, and so they were
doing tennis.
SPEAKER_02 (14:22):
So she's actively staying active, so that's
probably why she also had moreenergy.
Mm-hmm.
Granted, it also makes me wonderwhat happened between...
The past self, original self,and the future self, original
self.
What happened there to causesuch a drain of energy?
Was it just dealing with George?
It
SPEAKER_00 (14:43):
could have been just dealing with George or the fact
that she had to...
do everything herself becauseyou see how George is.
He's not very confrontational.
He just takes what he gets.
He doesn't like to stand up forhimself.
I would imagine that's why shewould drink the vodka in order
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to cope and deal with all ofthat stuff that she has to deal
with on a daily basis becauseshe knows George isn't going to
be there for her.
You could see the way theirrelationship was in the
beginning.
He wasn't even listening toYeah,
SPEAKER_02 (15:19):
he was writing.
SPEAKER_00 (15:19):
He wasn't even paying attention.
He was just writing downwhatever he was writing down.
SPEAKER_02 (15:24):
Well, I think he carried on his stories of
science fiction, but he neveractively wrote it into a book
like he did in the past change,in the future change.
Because he always didn't wantpeople to look at it or anything
because he was afraid of whatthey would think.
SPEAKER_00 (15:44):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (15:45):
So while I can understand his point of view
with his past self, I cancompletely understand his past
self,
SPEAKER_00 (15:51):
honestly.
Absolutely.
It's
SPEAKER_02 (15:53):
just his future self, not so much.
SPEAKER_00 (15:55):
Speaking of that, how relevant or impactful were
the themes compared to today'sworld?
How do you think the themes inBack to the Future can help us
now in this world that we livein, I guess, is what...
SPEAKER_02 (16:14):
I honestly have no clue.
SPEAKER_00 (16:17):
I would take it as George would say, if you believe
in yourself, you can accomplishanything.
SPEAKER_02 (16:26):
Even though he just took that saying from Marty.
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
Because Marty
SPEAKER_02 (16:30):
said it to him first.
SPEAKER_00 (16:31):
Yeah, he did.
But then again, where did Martyget that from?
I
SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
think he just came up with it on himself.
Because I noticed throughout themovie, no one else has said that
to him either.
Not even Doc.
SPEAKER_00 (16:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (16:44):
So it's like one of those things that...
SPEAKER_00 (16:47):
No, his girlfriend.
SPEAKER_02 (16:49):
Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_00 (16:51):
His girlfriend.
SPEAKER_02 (16:52):
Now I remember.
Okay, I'm glad you
SPEAKER_00 (16:53):
said that.
Because she was beingencouraging to Marty there at
the beginning.
She's in...
I believe that's where he had...
I think that's where he got thatfrom.
I'm not 100% sure if sheactually said it that way,
but...
Heck
SPEAKER_02 (17:05):
in my...
No, it is.
It is because it was when shewas...
gave him back to his...
I just hit the mic.
It's when she gave back to hiscassette tape of what his band
had done.
SPEAKER_00 (17:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:20):
Because he was afraid that no one's going to
take it.
Which, ironically enough, saidthat, ironically enough, it was
him saying, God dang, I soundlike my dad.
SPEAKER_00 (17:31):
But, yeah.
I think that's probably thebiggest...
thing of the of the first filmis like if you can set your mind
to it you can do anything ithink that's probably like the
biggest message from the firstmovie
SPEAKER_02 (17:46):
i can't agree honestly because they're
nowadays it's kind of hard forpeople to put their mind to
something and accomplish it AndI have no room to talk because
I'm the exact same way.
SPEAKER_00 (17:56):
Well, I am also.
I'm a very big procrastinator.
I can't...
I have, like, so many projectsat home that are, like, half
done.
SPEAKER_02 (18:04):
You
SPEAKER_00 (18:05):
know this.
SPEAKER_02 (18:05):
Yeah.
And, hell, I can't say mucheither because I...
I can get the motivation attimes, but then it immediately
diminishes the second I go toactually do it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:17):
ADHD, people! Yay!
SPEAKER_02 (18:20):
Heck, I don't even know if I even have that.
I never got diagnosed with it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:24):
Well, I had gotten diagnosed with ADD, but they
have completely eradicated ADD,and it's now just three types of
ADHD, apparently.
But anyway, we've already talkedabout how the movie...
the pacing of the movie andstuff like that.
But let's get into, like, thevisuals and the actual
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cinematography.
So, like, how were the visualsin special effects?
Did they enhance the story, ordid they kind of distract from
it?
SPEAKER_02 (18:54):
I mean, I think it did really well, especially with
making it actually look like ascience fiction film.
Especially with the fire trailleft behind by the DeLorean
every time it...
transcendent in time.
Though, I will say that some ofthe fire effects, for example,
when it first went back in time,or, sorry, when he sent Einstein
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forward in time by a minute, thefire trail that went between
your legs was very obviously notbad, good.
Well,
SPEAKER_00 (19:28):
but you have to think this movie was made in
1985.
SPEAKER_02 (19:31):
Well, I mean, like, the reason I say this is because
you can tell that one wasdefinitely a was definitely set
up to be, I guess, CGI in a way.
Yeah.
But the actual ones where, whenhe was going back to 1985, that
one looked like actual realfire.
SPEAKER_00 (19:49):
Like they actually used fire for that.
SPEAKER_02 (19:51):
Yeah.
But they did use, I think theydid use parts of fire for when,
what, between your legs, butused, like, CGI when it actually
was at their feet and stuff.
Mm-hmm.
but used some parts of it to beactual real fire.
But some of it just didn'tconnect properly, and it very
looked jarring.
Yeah.
And easily to be told, hey,that's not real.
SPEAKER_00 (20:14):
Absolutely.
Yeah, I can agree.
SPEAKER_02 (20:16):
And one other scene that I re-noticed last night was
the fire on the wire afterlightning struck it.
That one you could tell was CGI,but then when it cut back to
dark, you could see actual fire.
And like just little smallpieces across the wire.
But when it first ignited, thatone you could tell was fake.
SPEAKER_00 (20:40):
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (20:42):
I mean, other than that, the special effects did
really well in every aspect.
SPEAKER_00 (20:47):
Which really, there wasn't really much to it other
than the DeLorean stuff.
There wasn't really much specialeffects to it.
SPEAKER_02 (20:54):
Well, the green screen with Marty disappearing.
SPEAKER_00 (20:57):
Well, yeah, that too.
SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
That was...
kinda bad, but at the same time,you
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
can't really do much on that.
You think it's 1985, you know,they can only do so much with
the technology they had.
SPEAKER_02 (21:06):
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (21:06):
you gotta cut some slack.
So it was probably really goodfor the time.
SPEAKER_02 (21:09):
Not to mention, yeah, it's a, I mean, to be
fair, it's a green screen.
That one you can obviously tell,because it looked like they
filmed, like, the background forit of, like, Marty just standing
there,
SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
and then they just took, and then just, like,
Lifted up his hand, and it wasjust in front of the camera.
SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
Yeah.
Yeah, that way it could...
SPEAKER_00 (21:25):
Because it didn't...
Because now that I think aboutit, it didn't look like his arm
was connected to his body whenthey, like, when he lifted up
his hand.
SPEAKER_02 (21:35):
Yeah, it looked off because of the angle it was
placed.
It did not look like it wasactually part of him.
SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:42):
But, I mean, there was only so much you could do
back then, so it's like they had
SPEAKER_00 (21:46):
to...
SPEAKER_02 (21:47):
Especially with the fact that it got rejected 40
times originally and they had todo so many changes to the actual
story
SPEAKER_01 (21:54):
and everything.
SPEAKER_02 (21:55):
Because, for example, Bailey over here didn't
know about the original sequenceto go back to 1985 with dropping
a nuclear bomb onto the DeLorean
SPEAKER_00 (22:07):
and using that to
SPEAKER_02 (22:09):
go back.
SPEAKER_00 (22:09):
Yeah, I didn't know about that.
It's like I told him last night.
I was like, I'm glad they didn'tgo with that because I don't
know how they would have donethat.
Realistically, I don't know howthey would have approached doing
that unless they would havegotten a fake DeLorean and blew
it up.
SPEAKER_02 (22:28):
Yeah, and not to mention the way it was set up.
It looked like it was just anuclear testing ground just in
the center of town pretty much.
SPEAKER_00 (22:36):
Yeah, so that would have been very odd to have in
just a random town in the middleof nowhere.
SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
Well, not to mention they're dropping it without any
precautions or anything.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
because it disintegrates everything around
it.
SPEAKER_02 (22:50):
Well, not even that.
It killed so many people in theblast.
So it's like, was there anyprecautions?
Was this just a mistake orsomething?
what happened here
SPEAKER_00 (22:59):
yeah
SPEAKER_02 (23:00):
because i you can tell this was the original way
it was supposed to go but it'slike what what did they not
evacuate the place before doingthis test or what was the game
plan there
SPEAKER_00 (23:12):
yeah so it just didn't really make sense at all
to me
SPEAKER_02 (23:16):
yeah so i'm glad they changed it to the way they
did it because it makes a lotmore sense time why timing and
scene sequence.
Because the story did not makesense with the arrow.
But granted, that's becausewe're only dealing with a small
part of that sequence.
We have no clue what led up toit.
SPEAKER_00 (23:35):
That's very true.
SPEAKER_02 (23:36):
So, hell, it could make the
SPEAKER_00 (23:38):
entire story...
It could have been a completelydifferent story for that
storyboard.
It could have been an entirelycompletely different story.
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
Yeah.
It gave me Nuketown vibes.
SPEAKER_00 (23:48):
It did what?
SPEAKER_02 (23:49):
Nuketown vibes from
SPEAKER_00 (23:50):
Black Ops 2.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So let's get into the music andthe soundtrack and stuff.
So how well did the musiccomplement the story, and did
any music feel out of place?
SPEAKER_02 (24:08):
I don't think so.
All the music fit very well andwas very well-timed.
SPEAKER_00 (24:13):
And it was very well-written, too, because the
person that wrote the soundtrackfor Back to the Future, Alan
Silvestri, he also wrote thescore for The Avengers later on
in 2012.
So I'm very familiar with hiswork.
He does really good soundtracks.
SPEAKER_02 (24:32):
And heck, I think the only...
Weird part in the soundtrack wasliterally that one scene when he
was auditioning at the talentshow.
SPEAKER_00 (24:42):
Yeah.
Yeah, that is very true.
Because his
SPEAKER_02 (24:43):
guitar riffs did not match the beat of the song
whatsoever.
He
SPEAKER_00 (24:47):
was just wanting it loud.
SPEAKER_02 (24:49):
Yeah.
Though it was very awkwardduring the Johnny B.
Goode scene.
Yes,
SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
that was very, very awkward.
It's like, what the heck are youdoing, dude?
Yeah, it
SPEAKER_02 (24:58):
was just that end part.
If that end part wasn't there,it would have been fine.
It's just very exaggerated.
SPEAKER_00 (25:05):
Yeah, very, very over-exaggerated.
But that's who Marty is.
He's like...
That's just part of hischaracter, I
SPEAKER_02 (25:12):
guess.
Because I felt like he was aboutto pull a kiss and start licking
his guitar or playing it likethat.
He
SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
almost did, I'm pretty sure, because he ended up
putting it behind his head atone point.
And heck, I'm surprised hedidn't.
SPEAKER_02 (25:25):
That would have been
SPEAKER_00 (25:25):
funny, honestly.
That would have been reallyfunny, actually.
It
SPEAKER_02 (25:29):
gets caught in between the stuff.
He's like, ow, ow, ow.
Ow,
SPEAKER_00 (25:33):
ow, ow, ow.
SPEAKER_02 (25:34):
Can I get a little help?
Or, sorry.
Can I get a little help?
SPEAKER_00 (25:39):
Okay, but speaking of...
of like characters and right inthe writing and dialogue and
kind of stuff did the writingallow for character growth or
did anything feel predictable atall i honestly don't think so i
like i said earlier i think itall flowed fairly well i don't
think there was anything thatfelt predictable or anything of
(26:00):
that nature
SPEAKER_02 (26:00):
yeah i feel the same way there wasn't especially with
the uh I think it was gigawatts.
1.21 gigawatts scene with Martyshowing Doc of how the time
travel works, essentially, andhim actually being shocked at
what that meant.
(26:21):
Because it's like at the timeyou would think, oh, Doc already
knows about this because he'salready designed the flux
capacitor at this point.
So he already has this idea.
No, he was completely shockedthat his future self had set it
up like this.
SPEAKER_00 (26:41):
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (26:43):
Especially the joke about the plutonium in every
drugstore.
SPEAKER_00 (26:46):
Yeah, that, yeah.
Like, oh, I'm sure you getplutonium in every drugstore in
your future, but here it's kindof hard to come by.
SPEAKER_02 (26:55):
Well, Grant, he even had a problem.
He had to steal it from Libyans.
SPEAKER_00 (26:58):
Mm-hmm.
He did.
He absolutely did.
And
SPEAKER_02 (27:01):
parts of a pinball machine.
SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (27:05):
Which is very shocking.
They took a pinball machineparts to make the time traveling
DeLorean.
SPEAKER_00 (27:14):
No, it didn't make the DeLorean.
That's what he traded to get theplutonium.
He gave them the parts thinkingthat that was the plutonium.
Or that was whatever he hadinvented for them, and then he
took the plutonium.
SPEAKER_02 (27:30):
Oh, he wanted...
Yeah, they wanted him to makehim a bomb out of those things.
My bad.
SPEAKER_00 (27:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (27:38):
I misunderstood that part.
SPEAKER_00 (27:39):
Yeah.
But anyway, so gonna try toslowly wrap things up here.
So what was your favorite sceneand why?
What made it stand out to you?
SPEAKER_02 (27:51):
What was yours?
Um...
I would say my favorite scene,honestly, is of Doc trying to
reconnect the wiring to thelamppost.
Just because that whole sequencealone is just...
Yeah, I can agree.
It's definitely getting intensebecause DeLorean is getting
there.
The lightning's about to strikethat clock tower at any moment.
(28:13):
And Doc is trying to get thatplug to go back in and ends up
accidentally unplugging it fromthe other side, too.
So it's like there's a lot ofhigh stakes in that scene.
But also at the same time, it'sa little funny with Doc's
expressions and stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
Well, that's just a Christopher Lloyd thing, I
think.
SPEAKER_02 (28:33):
Well, it's more so, I think it's specifically the
smugness on his face when hefinally got loose enough.
And it's like, we're about toreconnect this.
And it's like, huh?
He looks and there's a tree limbholding the other side down
where he can't connect it.
And it's like...
So it's like the face that hemakes just because of that once
(28:56):
he realized what just happenedis what kills me.
SPEAKER_00 (28:59):
I honestly think mine is probably when he was
shocked about how much power itwould take to do the power to
put in the flux capacitor.
I think that part is probably myfavorite.
It's just funny.
SPEAKER_02 (29:13):
1.21
SPEAKER_00 (29:14):
gigawatts! That's
SPEAKER_02 (29:17):
gross.
We're completely ignoring thejoke about Ronald Reagan.
SPEAKER_00 (29:20):
Oh, we are.
We are.
Ronald Reagan!
SPEAKER_02 (29:25):
The fact that he is so
SPEAKER_00 (29:26):
joking.
SPEAKER_02 (29:27):
And then he just proceeds to name all of
different actors as the firstlady and his vice president.
It just kills me.
SPEAKER_00 (29:34):
It's just so funny.
That is very funny.
SPEAKER_02 (29:36):
That or him using that thing to read his mind,
Marty's mind, and he's like,you've come from a long
distance.
Yes! No, don't tell me!
SPEAKER_00 (29:44):
No, don't tell me!
SPEAKER_02 (29:47):
You won't sell me a subscription! No! No! Doc, no!
There's just so many goodscenes, honestly.
It's hard to choose just onesingle scene, but there's just
so many good ones.
SPEAKER_00 (30:02):
There really is.
There really is.
SPEAKER_02 (30:04):
That's just from the first movie.
That's not counting the secondor third.
SPEAKER_00 (30:07):
That's very true.
But we've talked about ourfavorite, but do we have any
least favorite moments from themovie?
Didn't...
Or did it distract from theoverall experience?
SPEAKER_02 (30:24):
To be fair, least favorite, I don't know.
But then again, I know yourscene is during the dance where
George is walking off afterLorraine was taken, swooped in
by another guy to dance withher.
And he just turns his back andstarts walking away.
And in the very next clip...
(30:46):
He then just shoves the dudeoff, and it's like, huh?
SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
Yeah, he just has this random struck of confidence
from out of nowhere.
And I'm just like, where didthat come from?
SPEAKER_02 (30:56):
Yeah, the confidence boost with Biff, that made more
sense because he's hurting him,but at the same time, he hurts
Lorraine in the process.
SPEAKER_00 (31:06):
Yeah, so that was like a trigger.
SPEAKER_02 (31:07):
Yeah, it was like a trigger.
But the other one, what was thetrigger?
SPEAKER_00 (31:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (31:11):
He's just like, huh, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (31:13):
Because the guy wasn't hurting Lorraine either.
She was just kind of trying toget away from him.
SPEAKER_02 (31:18):
Yeah, I guess that may have been.
Maybe.
But at the same time, that couldhave been done a little bit
better.
SPEAKER_00 (31:23):
Yeah, I felt like that was just kind of like cut
and then it just went on.
It probably had
SPEAKER_02 (31:31):
a certain amount of time that they had to reach.
And they were afraid that ifthey kept too much of that scene
in, that they might go over thelap time that they required.
SPEAKER_00 (31:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (31:43):
Because there's a lot of long scenes that were
cut, like the Darth Vader scene.
SPEAKER_00 (31:48):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (31:48):
That one.
I
SPEAKER_00 (31:49):
honestly wish they would have kept that whole scene
in, because that makes so muchmore, it made so much more sense
to me.
To have that whole thing in.
SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
And
SPEAKER_00 (31:58):
how Marty got in and out of his house.
And, you know, it kind ofexplained that a bit better.
Other than him just appearingand...
SPEAKER_02 (32:08):
Saying, I'm Darth Vader.
SPEAKER_00 (32:09):
I'm Darth Vader!
SPEAKER_02 (32:11):
And then the very next scene is George running
like a headless chicken toMarty.
He's like, I'm gonna get mybrain melted if I don't ask her
out.
It's like, okay...
I wish I could have seen thatconversation, but at the same
time, I can see why it was cutout at certain points.
But, for example, the scene Iwas talking about yesterday with
(32:35):
the Lorraine cheating on a test.
SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:39):
That outtake, I think, or, yeah, outtake would
have made a lot better for thatscene because it just...
SPEAKER_00 (32:45):
It flowed right into when...
Doc was like, which one's yourpop?
SPEAKER_02 (32:50):
Yeah, and the previous scene was of them
walking up to the school.
SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:55):
And it's like, okay, what?
What?
Because it's like, walking up tothe school, doesn't even go into
the school yet.
And the very next scene is justhim already standing up next to
the wall, looking down thehallway and going, which one's
your pop?
It's like, that makes lesssense.
But with the rest of it,especially with Lorraine walking
(33:16):
past Doc, saying that she wasgoing to make an F on that
anyway, and then him actuallywalking up to Marty after
listening to that, then it makessense.
It makes that scene flow alittle bit better
SPEAKER_00 (33:30):
instead of just
SPEAKER_02 (33:31):
a random cut.
SPEAKER_00 (33:33):
Speaking of things like that, what is one thing
that you think could have madethe movie better other than what
we've just talked about?
Is there anything else you thinkcould have made the movie
better?
SPEAKER_02 (33:45):
I really don't know.
I don't
SPEAKER_00 (33:47):
really know either.
I honestly think it's a greatfilm for what it is.
A
SPEAKER_02 (33:52):
lot of the scenes that they used did well for the
movie, honestly.
It made good storytelling andeverything.
Even though we criticized a lotof some cuts and stuff, the Biff
being Biff and stuff like that.
The movie went good.
The storytelling was great.
The science fiction was reallygood, especially the way it
(34:14):
explained everything.
Because that's what I wish a lotof movies nowadays would do.
Explain your stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (34:21):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (34:22):
Hell, I can't speak.
Doug did a better job explaininghow the DeLorean works than most
of superhero movies now.
SPEAKER_01 (34:34):
That's
SPEAKER_02 (34:34):
sad when you have a movie talking about time travel
doing a better job explainingthat.
Something as convoluted as that,that no freaking developer,
developer, director can getright now.
It's always screwing upsomething else in the process.
SPEAKER_00 (34:58):
I agree.
SPEAKER_02 (34:59):
But here's Back to the Future proving that wrong,
that it's easy to just explainthe stuff instead of just
throwing the shit out there andjust expecting you to figure it
out on your own.
SPEAKER_00 (35:09):
Yeah.
Expecting you to connect thedots instead of actually telling
a story.
SPEAKER_02 (35:15):
Yeah.
Especially with each movieleading into each other and
following up directly after thelast one ended.
SPEAKER_00 (35:22):
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (35:24):
Unlike Marvel.
DC ain't freaking ain't directornowadays for some reason.
SPEAKER_00 (35:32):
For some reason, yeah.
Well, I don't necessarily haveto ask this question again, but
would you watch this again?
Why or why not?
SPEAKER_02 (35:39):
Hell yes.
Just to relive childhood,honestly, but also just to enjoy
such a great story and greatcharacters, honestly.
SPEAKER_00 (35:49):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I would definitely 100% watch itagain.
And if you haven't seen themovie, you youngins,
SPEAKER_02 (35:56):
please give it a watch.
At least once.
SPEAKER_00 (35:58):
At least once.
Just give it a try.
I know it's old, but just giveit a try.
You'll be fine.
SPEAKER_02 (36:05):
Yes, you might criticize it, but at the same
time, don't go in expectinganything.
That's what one thing that wewere talking about earlier.
Don't go into a movie expectingshit.
Otherwise that is going to setup you hating the movie in the
process if it does not meet thatexpectation.
SPEAKER_00 (36:26):
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (36:29):
I think everyone can agree that that's what ruins
movies for a lot of people ishaving that high expectation and
it crumbling massively.
aka look at a lot of the gameslately
SPEAKER_00 (36:41):
they get so overhyped and then you know it
just crumbles and falls becausethey're trying to rush because
there's so much hype over it andyou know and there's and there's
movies that end up that way toobecause i was talking about that
yesterday with the fantasticfour movie they're hyping it up
so much that i'm afraid it'sonly gonna fall
SPEAKER_02 (37:03):
Yeah, and not to mention...
SPEAKER_00 (37:04):
No matter how good it looks.
SPEAKER_02 (37:06):
A lot of people have been criticizing the movie for
some of the choices in the moviealso, but don't expect it to be
a copy and paste of the comics.
It's going to use some aspectsof it, yes.
It's not going to take everysingle little thing from the
comics.
SPEAKER_00 (37:21):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (37:21):
Otherwise, you'd be there for probably five hours,
maybe 20 hours, trying toconvolute everything.
SPEAKER_00 (37:28):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (37:28):
Hence why I think...
While at the same time, youcan't expect much from the
movies, at least give a littlebit of leniency and just not
have any expectations.
Don't hold off on any criticismor anything and don't listen to
critics or the media.
Take your mind clear and don'texpect anything.
(37:52):
Watch the movie and then giveyour critiques on it.
SPEAKER_00 (37:55):
Yeah, because it's like these days...
I don't even know what credit,like, what's the word I'm
looking for?
I'm not really sure what theircriteria is for reviewing
movies.
Slop.
Like, what is their criteriathat a movie has to meet in
(38:18):
order for them to get a goodrating?
SPEAKER_02 (38:20):
But yeah, what you're saying, criteria, there's
not...
It's unknown.
And not to mention, for example,let's take the Oscars, for
example.
That is some bull.
Because did you know they addeda new rule where they had to
watch the movies now?
SPEAKER_00 (38:35):
Yep, I did.
SPEAKER_02 (38:36):
That really just sets up how bad the critics are
and don't ever listen to them.
SPEAKER_00 (38:43):
Everybody that has to vote has to watch all of the
movies in that category in orderto vote.
Which, honestly...
I think it's kind of fair, butalso, that's a lot of content to
watch, and that's a lot ofsomebody's time.
SPEAKER_02 (39:00):
At the same time, they're named critics for a
reason.
That's what they get paid to do.
It's watch movies, write areview, that's it.
That's their job.
So if they can't even do thebare minimum of watching the
movie and just immediately doinga review and giving it negative,
or giving it positive forwhatever it was...
(39:23):
That just says a lot about whatthey expect out of movies
compared to what us as normalcustomers and viewers go to see.
SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
Exactly.
And that's the thing, too, iseverybody has their own
interests.
Everybody has their own clicksand their own things.
So it's like you can't really gooff what the critics say.
And many movies have proved thatso many times.
A good example is the FiveNights at Freddy's movie that
came out.
what, in 2023?
I think so.
(39:53):
2024?
Yeah, I
SPEAKER_02 (39:55):
think it was 2023.
SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
The critics bombed that movie, but the audience
absolutely loved it, andrightfully so, because they put
so much work into it.
SPEAKER_02 (40:05):
Especially the fact that they actually made the
characters like Freddy, Bonnie,and Chica, they actually made
them into animatronics that canswitch from animatronic mode
to...
costume mode, pretty much.
It can be doubled for certainscenes, so that way making it
easier for recording and alsomaking you remember, hey, that's
(40:28):
a robot that's supposed to bethere.
But that's also possessed by achild.
So it's like one of them things.
We might know a lot of the stufffor it.
The critics don't know anything.
SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
Because they don't care.
If they actually cared, theywould actually do...
their homework on said communityand actually give it a fair shot
and not just be like, oh, wejust didn't like it.
SPEAKER_02 (40:57):
But I will admit that's kind of unfair to ask
someone to, if they're going tosee a movie, to look at what the
source material is all the time.
Like, say, Marvel movies havingto say, if you want to enjoy
this movie, go read the comicsof that certain character.
That's very ingenuous to dobecause not a lot of people are
(41:19):
going to be interested in thesame thing.
But at the same time, don't justgo blindly hating the movie just
because it's not something youdon't know.
SPEAKER_00 (41:28):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (41:30):
For example, it's a Fantastic Four movie.
There's a lot of people hatingon the changes that they've
done.
And some, yes, can be rightfullyso.
It's jarring.
But at the same time, there'snot...
This might be pulling from thesource material of what's going
on.
And you just never know.
SPEAKER_01 (41:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (41:48):
Hell, I didn't even know there was a female silver
surfer.
But then again, I've not beenever invested in the silver
surfer as a character oranything and be invested in the
comics of that character becauseit's not something that
interests me.
SPEAKER_00 (42:03):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (42:04):
But I can see where a lot of people enjoy the
character.
I just don't.
It's not my cup of tea.
SPEAKER_00 (42:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (42:11):
But then again, I'm not used to the whole Fantastic
Four to begin with.
I will admit that.
Because I never really...
But
SPEAKER_00 (42:21):
you've watched the Sony movies.
SPEAKER_02 (42:22):
I've watched the Sony movies, yes.
But a lot of them, I have notwatched a lot of the superhero
movies that they put out.
Grant, I love the Spider-Manmovies of Tobey Maguire.
I love those.
I've watched Andrew Garfield's.
And I've watched Tom Holland's.
I've watched all versions ofSpider-Man for the movie-wise.
Mm-hmm.
Grant, I'm biased.
(42:43):
I like Tobey Maguire's better,honestly.
SPEAKER_00 (42:45):
Which I do, too.
SPEAKER_02 (42:45):
Grant, Tom's is just annoying to me because he
doesn't feel like Spider-Man.
SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (42:52):
And that's a multitude of different things,
honestly, that can be taken witha grain of salt.
People's opinions, honestly.
But at the same time, it's anopinion.
SPEAKER_00 (43:03):
That's the moral of the story.
SPEAKER_02 (43:06):
What you enjoy, someone else is not going to
enjoy.
And that's perfectly fine.
Everyone can agree to disagree,which I think everyone needs to
learn in this day and age.
Because it's always, if youdisagree with this opinion, I
hate you or anything like that.
No.
Take it with a grain of salt.
Enjoy what you want to enjoy.
(43:27):
Let them enjoy what they want toenjoy.
It's not mutually exclusive.
UNKNOWN (43:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (43:33):
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