April 21, 2024 • 64 mins
Certified Anastasi System Teacher, Reiki Master, and professional psychic & medium, Mary Ebacher Estridge, expertly walks us through connecting with our higher selves. Discover the many benefits this amazing experience offers and learn about opportunities to develop or enhance your own psychic abilities using the comprehensive Anastasi System of Psychic Development.
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Hello friends, this is Peter C. Smith, Psychic Pete, and welcome to the Psychic Pete Live
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Online Radio Broadcast, created exclusively for you here on Apple Podcasts.
Please enjoy these special episodes featuring talented, experienced professional psychics
and mediums as they share with us their knowledge and unique perspectives about the fascinating,
dynamic, purposeful work of psychics and mediums.
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And thanks for tuning in.
Hello this is Peter Smith, Psychic Pete, and I'm broadcasting to you from my home office
in Niagara Falls, New York.
And today is Monday, August 14th, and it's a very special day here on the broadcast because
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we have an interview.
And we have a very special guest today whom I'm interviewing.
She's agreed to come on the program and she's an expert in her field.
And again, I'm very, very excited today to welcome Mary Ebacher Estridge, who's a
psychic and a medium.
She's a teacher and she facilitates lots of different experiences for folks like us who
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are interested in psychic and spirit communication topics.
So if you're joining us today for the first time, welcome.
It's great to have you here on this very special day.
And if you're a returning listener, you're welcome and thanks for coming back.
I appreciate it.
Before we get to Mary, she's on hold with us, I just want to address what we're trying
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to do today.
We've invited some folks who are experts in their field to come on the program and talk
about things that they are doing and share with us different aspects of their professional
lives as psychics and mediums.
And so we've invited Mary to come on and she's going to be talking to us about something
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that she feels is very important.
And that is, her topic today is connecting with your higher self.
And this is very important.
So what we try to do here is pick different topics that people like ourselves are interested
in exploring more about the different aspects of mediumship and spirit communication.
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And ask them to come on the program and talk about these things and share them with us.
And you'll have an opportunity during the broadcast to find out how to connect with
and communicate with Mary directly if you have questions or things that come up.
So before we get too ahead of ourselves, let's go back and welcome Mary today to the broadcast.
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Mary, thank you so much for coming on today.
It's delightful to have you here.
And I'm very excited to have you here today.
Oh, I'm so glad I could be here.
Thank you, thank you for inviting me.
My pleasure.
So as I was telling our listeners, we're going to talk today about something very exciting,
connecting with your higher self.
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Now I know this is very, very fascinating for me.
And I think one of the reasons I find it fascinating is because the spiritual life is really the
dimension that we're all talking about, right?
You know, when we talk about connecting with our higher self, it's really with going inside
and looking at what's there and connecting to it.
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You know what I mean?
And that's a real thing, isn't it?
Yes, it is.
It's, it's, and even, you can get a lot of information from connecting within.
It shoots you in the right direction when you start listening to it.
It gives you guidance.
It's just phenomenal what all you can do with it.
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Okay, when you say gives you guidance, it's, so it's like a little resource, right?
You can sort of, you know, find out some insights or get some information about some decisions
or choices in your life or just maybe get a different perspective about what's going
on.
I know we were speaking earlier before the broadcast and we were sort of analyzing some
stuff that happened earlier.
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And I think when you, when you have those kinds of skills available to you, it's an
added dimension, isn't it?
To be able to kind of, yeah, yeah, tools, you know, tools to use things to unpack them.
To give you more information.
And it helps you make decisions.
I think it makes it a healthier lifestyle.
It gives it a lot of value to the spiritual life, doesn't it?
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It's a practical sort of thing where people can, you know, contact you or another psychic
or medium and they can, you know, you can use the tools that you have, like connecting
to your higher self, to help them explore what that, what meaning that has for them.
Well, and it gives you a direction that's more healthy for yourself to go in and it
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gets the ego out of the way so that you can go in the right direction and be happy in
your life.
Sure, yeah.
And who doesn't want that, right?
We could all use a little more peace and happiness, at least I could.
And I think those around me would agree, you know.
The more grounded I am, the better I am for them, right?
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So Mary, before we get too far ahead of ourselves, my mind's racing a little bit today so I'm
talking a little bit faster than I normally would, but would you mind telling us a little
bit about yourself, maybe some of your background?
I know our listeners would be interested to hear some of your, you know, a couple snapshots
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about your day-to-day life.
You know, the psychics and mediums that are on our program that come on are normal people.
Mary's normal, I assure you, Mary's normal.
And that's one of the wonderful gifts that you can, when you can relate to somebody and
have, you know, a great communication and share things in a non-technical way that's
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relatable, I can assure you.
At the end of the broadcast, I'm sure you'll agree with me that Mary's extremely relatable.
So Mary, just tell us a little about what you do and where you are and your work.
I'm in Bristol, Tennessee.
We went on the road for 19 years in an RV and went all over the country and landed in
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Bristol, Tennessee to retire.
And I was a dietitian way back when, and still am a dietitian, but I'm not doing anything
with it right at the moment.
I started in my spiritual work in about 2015 when I followed a lady that was doing work
with fermenting foods and she went into Hay House.
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That's how I found Hay House.
Hay House has lots of teachers and everything that have, most of them taught one thing.
You get a book and they taught you one thing.
I wanted something that I could learn all the things.
So I was on a search for that and came into that Sandy Anastasi, she had some stuff online
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and then some other psychics talked about Sandy Anastasi.
And I looked into her classes.
I loved what she had to teach, but I wanted to make sure that she had people I could connect
with, that I could get a partner with because there was nobody around me that did this stuff
that I could ask to be my partner.
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And they assured me that they'd have plenty of partners for me, so I took the class.
Well, lo and behold, I am now teaching that class and I loved it so much.
It taught me so much about myself that I now teach it with a co-partner and have been doing
that ever since.
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I teach in meetup groups around the here, different topics, and I'm just absolutely
loving the spiritual realm and love and teaching.
Yes.
Teaching is definitely an important part of your life.
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We'll come back to that.
We'll make sure that we get back to that.
And I think, not to be too cliché, I feel the same way.
I can relate to this and maybe many of our listeners can relate to this too.
Once you delve into the spiritual life, if you get the right path and you find it resonates
for you, Mary, like it does for me, it really does let you lead your best life.
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I feel like I'm the best version of myself right now and I'm always excited to see what
tomorrow's going to bring because it's always different.
I agree.
It gave me the possibility of connecting with the higher spirits and stuff like that, doing
readings and all that.
And then since then I've been able to go through the classes several times and never
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believed I'd ever be teaching and I am because I believe in it.
Sure.
You're very empowered, isn't it?
And you know, truthful.
That's another aspect I think is important to always consider.
We strive for the element of truth in almost everything.
So if you're sort of feeling like things don't resonate with you, sometimes it's because
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they're not truthful.
Maybe they're not aligned correctly.
But before I get too far ahead of myself, again, I want to flip the page back and talk
about 2015.
Mary was saying that, I think she said, correct me if I'm wrong, Mary, your spiritual journey
sort of began around 2015 with Hay House?
Yes.
Okay.
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So I don't think we've ever had this conversation, but my spiritual journey began at the end
of 2015.
And I was wondering if I had an angel around and I literally typed on my computer, are
you there?
And I felt something respond.
Anyway, not about me, it's about Mary today.
But Hay House is where I first opened that door.
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I went to Hay House and there was a course.
It was called Project You. It was given by John Edward and I just couldn't believe I spent
the money because I didn't know what I was doing.
Completely lost going backwards, right?
In the dark.
And so 2015 was when I just kind of just started, you know, exploring, talking about things.
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And I couldn't even say the word tarot correctly.
I said tarot like carrot.
Hopeless, completely hopeless, you know?
But you learn.
You know, if you're a person who's visiting the program today and you're just starting
out, if you're a beginner, Mary and I would like to assure you that, you know, we all
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start someplace, whether we're gifted with these abilities naturally or someone encouraged
us or if you're on your own path of development with a teacher or, you know, some studies,
by all means, one day at a time, just take that first step and we all know what it's
like to begin.
And I think Mary will agree.
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It can be a journey of a lot of blood, sweat and tears and money.
It can get expensive, but it's worth it.
I think Mary and I will both, you know, witness to the fact that it's definitely worth it.
But getting back to the 2015 and the Hay House, Mary mentioned school.
So I'm going to create that connection.
This is how I know Mary.
We met as classmates in the Sandy Anastasi courses.
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It's called the Anastasi System of Psychic Development.
And as she mentioned, we were classmates and they paired us up and we had to work together.
And Mary was very, very kind, very patient, very, very understanding and knowledgeable.
And she understood a lot where people were going to go and where they're coming from.
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So I'm always very grateful for that.
So her teaching and her teaching, she is going to teach us today.
We're going to have some instructional about, you know, connecting with your higher self
and if you're just tuning in, we are today chatting with our guest.
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Her name is Mary E. Bacher Estridge.
And if you have any questions at this point, I want to give you her email address so that
you can reach out to her.
And her email address is thepsychicmary at gmail.com.
The Psychic Mary is all one word, at gmail.com.
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And you can also find out her contact information or contact her on her website.
And I'll give you the website.
Name is thepsychicmary.wixsite.com.
The Psychic Mary, all one word, dot wixsite.com.
And it's got wonderful information about that.
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It talks about how you can get in touch with Mary.
It also talks about classes as a teacher.
She's got some information about how you can connect with her if you're interested in more
information about the classes.
And our classes are starting up in September.
We have an orientation in this month and then start up in September 14th.
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So if you want any of that information, it's all on the website.
Just a month away.
So tell us more about that.
So if it's a person, are these classes for beginner beginners or are they people who
may be beginning in the middle or coming back from having explored this maybe earlier in
the lifetime?
What type of people would be?
Anybody.
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We start from square one and move all the way up to challenge.
The first three levels are all about your psychic abilities and how you develop them
and use exercises to get into it.
The last three are channeling and all about channeling.
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Exciting.
So you can take the first three.
You don't have to take the last three or you can take all six if you're interested in channeling.
Interesting.
Yes.
So are those weekly classes?
People come and they sign up and then there's a—
We have weekly classes.
Our classes are 7:30pm to 9:00pm on Thursday nights Eastern time.
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We offer videos along with our classes so that you can get another perspective of what
we're talking about, what we're teaching.
It's Karen Matteis, and I.
We both teach the class together.
We work with each student and where they are and what they need as we go along.
So it's personal yet you get all kinds of things that can aid in your growth.
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Sure.
Yeah.
And that's quite special too to have a course like this that's designed and facilitated
by two teachers.
So it complements one another, doesn't it?
Because you can both contribute.
Right.
Yeah.
But it also helps you because I know it's a hands-on kind of experience because I'm
familiar with the Anastasia system as well.
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And it's very much involvement.
It's a lot of participation at the level that you're at.
So both Mary and Karen have a lot of experience working with students who are beginners or
people who are just finding the way through.
And there's lots of energy and lots of resources available.
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Like you mentioned the videos.
It's not just the videos.
If you need help, if you're having difficulty understanding something, having the value
of a teacher available to guide you, you know what I mean?
It's very important.
I required a lot of hand-holding when I went through.
And that's very, very important because we tend to doubt ourselves.
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We tend to question things.
We tend to be sort of methodical.
And because it's spiritual, it's very, very personal.
And having two teachers, having two people there during that process is very, very...
But it's also methodical.
So you're going to feel like you're making progress.
You're not just studying one thing.
It's a chapter.
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It's an extremely well-defined program that allows you to see your own progress and charge
your own progress.
And it's lots of fun.
You meet other people and you discover where your strengths are and where your weaknesses
are and where you need to grow and what your abilities really look like.
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I know that— Well, it's amazing watching the students
that come into the class.
Some of them know a lot.
Some of them don't know anything.
What they learn and how they learn.
I can do that!
Wow!
I can do that!
And they just don't think they can.
They can't.
And then you walk them through the exercise and go and spit out the first thing they think
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of or feel or see and come to find out it was all right.
So validation is there.
We have exercises.
You're not going to believe what you learn.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah.
And you know what?
Another aspect of this is that it's very empowering.
So I think empowering is our word of the day today.
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Back when Mary and I started in 2015, there were some things that were online.
But if you today are interested in that, there's much more resources available online to do
this kind of study.
Because what Mary and Karen are offering are online classes.
But back in the day, you might have to travel 40 or 50 miles or even more.
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Mary and I both know—I'm in a name drop here—a person who's a teacher in the Anastasi
system, her name is Joy.
And at one point, people had to get on planes and travel for a weekend or over several weekends
to attend the courses that were held in person in a hotel room or something.
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So today, these are more available.
And so it's just great.
And it's nice.
I've learned to embrace the technology—I think Mary probably has too—of Zoom and Skype
and that sort of thing, to make this available to folks.
And that's one of the added benefits.
So having that—and of course, the course materials are in a book.
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And Mary mentioned that they also have a video, which is helpful, co-teaching.
So check that out.
Again, the website where you can find more information about the courses starting September
14th, next month, is thepsychicmary.wixsite.com.
ThePsychicMary, all one word,.wixsite.com.
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And wixsite is W-I-X-S-I-T, just in case.
Thank you, Mary.
Yeah.
So if you're just joining us, we are having a fascinating conversation.
We're getting to know Mary E. Bacher Estridge a little bit better.
We're talking to her about today's topic, which we're going to dive into in just a
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second, connecting with your higher self.
So Mary, let's just say that I don't know anything about connecting with my higher self.
What would we do to just sort of get closer to that idea?
What's that concept of—let's say, what is the higher self?
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Is that our soul?
Is that our consciousness?
Is it—what would that—what does that look like?
Or what's that feel like?
Your higher self is a part of you.
It's actually a little bit higher, and you're connected to it through a thread that you
can't see.
It's your soul.
It's another extension of you that's in the higher realm, basically.
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I see.
Right.
Okay.
So are there ways that this kind of manifests itself, the higher self manifests itself,
or a way you can detect it, or is there a way—an everyday experience with the higher
self come into play in a practical way in our lives, in our day-to-day lives at work,
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or with our families, or in relationships?
Yeah.
Let me go into connecting to your higher self.
Okay.
So I'm going to start with my feelings.
Protection isn't needed with the higher self because it's part of you.
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Okay.
Okay?
And if you're connecting outside of yourself, including outside of your higher self, you
do need to protect, and I'll tell you why in a few minutes.
In connecting, if your channel, anything else, I highly recommend that you protect yourself.
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The higher your energy, you are becoming a beacon out in the world.
Why protect?
Some people say not.
I don't attract negativity, so I don't need to protect, and I don't worry about it.
I protect just to be safe, just in case there are NDs that feed on higher energy.
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They are not common, but if you happen to run into somebody that has one attachment
to them and they see more energy, they might decide you're a better candidate and attach
to you.
So I do just to make sure.
For example, do you own a car, and if so, do you buy insurance?
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You don't buy insurance just to know you are going to have an accident.
You buy it to protect yourself, the same reason I protect myself.
Okay.
Trying to get into your higher self, meditation is one practice that you can feel your own
energy.
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That's what your higher self is going to feel like, your own energy, because that's you.
So in meditation, you can actually feel what your energy feels like.
Who, what can you channel?
You can channel your higher self, which is you.
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Now if you go above that, make sure you protect, which might be your guides, angels, spirits
on the other side, a live person's higher self, animals, plants, past lives and future
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readings.
Those possibilities are endless, really.
Sometimes you really want to know if you're actually believing what you get.
So how you verify?
Muscle testing.
You can do muscle testing a whole bunch of different ways, by somebody pushing on your
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arm, by putting your fingers in O positions around, okay, your thumb and your next finger
on both hands, putting them in loops.
And if you pull real easy, that's a no.
If you pull and it doesn't come apart, that's a yes.
There's all kinds of ways to do muscle testing, so check that out.
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Getting a pendulum, and another way is to get a channel or a medium to verify it.
You just verify until you feel comfortable with what you're getting.
If you feel comfortable with what you're getting, you don't have to verify it, but if you really
need to have verification that's what I'm getting, verify it.
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Things that you might ask, if you ask a question, you've got to ask the right question.
Questions need to be specific and only ask one thing at a time.
Be careful of your wording.
The more specific usually is better.
An example of that, will I die?
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What's wrong with that question?
Here?
Pretty general, right?
Yeah, it's too vague.
Too vague.
Yeah.
The answer would be yes, but is that really what you want?
If you want to know if you should buy this house or that house, this example is two questions,
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actually.
Do I want to buy this house?
Is this house going to be best for me?
Is this house going to be better?
You have to be specific with the question.
Double check the question is actually what you want and is concise.
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We're going to have a meditation in a little while.
If anybody's driving, please park.
We will need a paper and a pencil possibly to write down something, so we can go get
a paper and a pencil.
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We'll hold on for just a second and make sure we have paper and a pencil.
And then parking.
Okay.
Mary, while we're waiting for our folks to go gather their materials, their pens and
paper and taking a minute to pull off the road and to park safely, because we want to
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make sure that when you go into that space, that head space, that you're not distracted.
We don't want to create any safety problems there.
I'm just going to go back and make a couple notes that I just want to revisit.
First one was protection.
It seems like you were talking about psychic protection and you were emphasizing the importance
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of that whenever we engage in this kind of psychic work.
It's important to understand what and why we psychically protect, right?
If you are listening to this and you are familiar with how to psychically protect, then it's
always good to reinforce that.
If you're not sure, if you're new to psychic protection and you need a couple little bits
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of information about how to perform that, you can reach out to Mary and you can let
her know that you'd like some tips, that's the word I was using, about how to psychically
protect.
And she can offer that for you as well.
The other thing you mentioned was verification.
That's very important.
That's an important aspect of this, connecting with your higher self.
And verification can also be thought, correct me if I'm wrong, Mary, as validation.
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If you're self-doubting, if you're in that head space where you're just not sure, you're
feeling a little unclear, and you know what you're getting, you know that's what you're
getting, but you're not sure if it fits or it matches, these verification methods are
very effective for that.
So that's how we address that self-doubt.
Self-confidence is a very integral part to the work that Mary does, Mary and Karen.
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And when you go through the courses that they offer, those classes, you develop self-confidence.
They show you how to overcome that because we all have doubts.
We all have uncertainties.
And it's necessary to address those and take it seriously.
And you're going to see your confidence level just skyrocket because once you achieve that.
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The third thing, and I want to make sure I got this Mary, I wrote down as you were speaking,
it's important, you're emphasizing it's important to carefully to word those questions and be
very, very specific.
Because as you pointed out, a general question is going to give you a general answer, right?
Sure.
So, you know, you just go to the store and buy some fruits and an allergy and just come
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home with some fruit, or you can go to the store with an idea that you want some apples
and come home with apples.
So you might have to know how to word those questions.
And again, sometimes doing this on our own, we can give little butterfingers, psychically,
right?
Having Mary and Karen as your mentors, having them walk you through this is where that real,
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having a teacher is where it's very, very valuable.
And I think you can all tell Mary's very concise.
She's very deliberate and she's very clear and direct, which is great.
It's a great gift to have when you're trying to work with people who are in that head space
and get lost.
I know just we're giving people time to, I'm just going to wrap up so we can move on.
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But if we tend to get too lost in our heads, psychically, or let's say, you know, meditation,
and we enjoy that and we float around too much like I tend to do, it can get confusing.
And so having somebody, not somebody, but having Mary help you work through the materials,
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work through the class, step by step, is one of the benefits of signing up for the classes
and enjoying it.
The website is the psychicmary.wixsite.com and you can email her at thepsychicmary, all
one word, at gmail.com (thepsychicmary,@gmail.com) if you have any questions.
And I'm going to turn it back over to Mary.
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Thank you.
There's a whole slew of ways you can get information.
If you've ever heard of the Clar's that's what I'm talking about.
Clarvoyance
That's Clar seeing.
They actually see something, but most of the time it's through your third eye or your mind's
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eye that you see it.
Some people have their eyes open, some people can see it only with their eyes closed.
Clar Audience is Clar hearing.
That is hearing outside the body or inside the body.
When it's inside the body it's actually telepathy, but they put it under Clar Audience.
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Clar Sentience is Clar feeling.
Clar Audience is Clar smelling.
Claire Custiance is Claire tasting.
Clar Cognizant is Clar knowing.
I've had Clar Audience all my life.
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I thought everybody had it, so nobody deemed me and said I was doing bad because I thought
everybody had it, so it never came up until I came into these classes and found out not
everybody has that.
So I've heard things all my life.
Big reveal.
I developed many of the other ones, all the rest of the Claire's while taking the classes.
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So if you think you don't have any, you really do have one that's strong.
You may not pay attention to it, but you'll develop several of them while you're in the
classes and it will be magical.
So don't worry about it if you don't think you have any.
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When talking to your Higher Self or anything else, you must initiate the competition.
They are respectful of your free will.
I communicate with my Higher Self and my guides and I allow them to talk to me anytime.
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I've got a communication with them, they can come in and guide me, they can come in and
talk to me at any time they want to when they see fit.
That's something I've worked out with them.
It's been perfect for me.
I am grateful during the morning.
I tell them I thank them.
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I'm grateful at night.
When I go to bed, I thank them.
If you connect with entities higher than yourself, protect or say a prayer of protection first.
Just another reiteration, protect, protect, protect.
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Okay, we talked about ego before.
When you're raising your vibration to allow, to listen to Higher Self, you have to put
ego aside.
You need to let go of the ego and get it out of the way.
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It will want to control what is going on.
Actually, the ego's purpose here is to protect you.
Well, when you're talking to your Higher Self, you do not need protection from your ego.
You can put it on the chair next to you, tell it to take a break.
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You got this.
You can put it in a pretty box, whatever box you design, put it in it and shove it behind
you.
It works.
You've got to get that ego under control.
If it starts telling you to do something, that's your ego.
Get it out of there.
Just allow.
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If you're asking questions, be sure to write them down beforehand, make sure they're specific.
Now, hopefully everybody's got their paper and pencil on you.
Park the car because we're going to start the meditation really quick.
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Close your eyes.
Take your ego and anything else that bothers you and set it aside.
Always trust what you get.
Usually the first thing that popped in, take it.
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Don't justify it.
That's your ego.
Don't say, oh, this don't mean anything.
That's your ego.
Take the first thing that you get.
Some people will get like maybe for example, an umbrella.
The umbrella may mean something to that person or it may be something that's going to happen
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in the future.
Just note it and watch for what this umbrella has to do.
You can always ask a question if you're puzzled about what you got.
Just ask, can you give me more information?
What does this mean?
You might get an answer.
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Allow yourself to get into a higher state.
If you meditate, that's the state I kind of want.
Relax your body.
Everything in your body relaxes.
Your feet, your legs, your torso, your head.
Everything relax.
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Take three deep breaths and let them out slowly.
Now breathe normally and pay attention to your breath.
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Now ask your higher self, what does a higher self want me to know?
Be open to anything you hear, see, feel, know, taste or smell.
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Throw down anything you get, especially the first thing that comes in.
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Come in.
Hold it.
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Hold it.
Hopefully everybody got something.
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If you've got questions on what you got, you can email me and maybe I can help you.
If you understand what you got, you got a message from your higher self.
Don't try to overanalyze it, just think about it, where it fits in your life, where it says
you need to go or do or what, and take it as that sign.
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It may be something in the future, if it is, just note it and be aware as you go through
your life and see where it fits.
Any questions, go to thepsychicmary.gmail.com.
Mary, that was marvelous.
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Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
I could feel the energy coming through.
Mary and I are connected on a Zoom connection and I could feel the channel get built and
I could feel the energy just making the connection.
Mary, I have some questions that might be relevant to our listeners.
I made some notes as we were going along.
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It seems that what we're saying here when we connect to your higher self is you're creating
a dialogue, right?
I mean, overall.
Correct.
I wrote protect and connect is step one.
Protect and connect.
If you're going above your higher self, you protect.
Gotcha.
If you don't go over your higher self, you can talk to your higher self anytime.
Sure.
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Then the second one, thank you, the second one I wrote down is questions.
Look for answers.
Listen for answers.
You're just asking a question, forming that question, but then paying attention to what
the answer might be.
Here's my question about that.
What happens if I get a little distracted, if I get confused, if I'm not really sure
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what—maybe I didn't hear anything, maybe I didn't see anything, maybe there was no
signs, no symbols.
Is there anything I can do?
Are there any techniques I can try?
You can—if you meditate every day, try right after you meditate to ask that question.
If you still don't get anything, try right as soon as you get up in the morning.
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Right when you're in that groggy state, ask then, because you're in that alpha state
at that time.
Just ask, is there anything my higher self wants me to know?
And then listen.
Just allow and listen.
Don't have the ego in there chit-chatting and telling you how to do it.
Just listen.
Now, I say listen, it might be feeling, it may be smelling, it may be hearing, it could
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be any of those things.
I hear.
That's why I always say listen.
But it could be any which way.
Got it.
Thank you.
Really, really great information today.
So I think what you're saying too is distractions are a normal part of the beginning process.
You can expect those sometimes, right?
Yes.
If your mind is racing and you're not sure.
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Persevering is a part of this process.
Right.
Yeah, we need to persevere.
Mary's speaking from experience.
She's telling us that she did not sit down and one day have this lightning-bolt moment
of aha.
It was a process.
And I've written down some other notes.
Development, right?
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And you use the word magical.
I wrote down the word magical because this is.
It is candy magical.
It's a journey of self-discovery and it does feel as though when you start to go inside
and you discover, you have this wonderful journey of discovery about abilities.
And I just want to just go back and flip that page back about abilities.
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Now, you were talking about the Claire's Mary and you were saying that you can hear, you
know, psychically, we can see psychically and even taste psychically, I think you were
saying.
But some people have strengths, you know, it's normal.
I think that's what you're saying.
Is that correct?
Right.
Some people would have more abilities to hear something or see something than they might.
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Usually they have one that stands out but they may not understand it or know it.
I see.
I see.
So, part of what the class does is help you to identify what these are and then discover
them, unpack them a little bit and then develop them.
And I wrote down enjoy.
That's part of the magical piece of this.
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Yes.
Because you can enjoy this.
So, Mary, you know, the question we had in the beginning, I got ahead of myself, is the
practical application of this is it improves your life.
It gives you another dimension of your spirituality.
That can anybody do this?
Yes.
Anybody.
Yes.
Right.
Sure.
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And it's psychic, believe it or not.
Sure.
Yeah.
When they were kids, they knew this.
It's remembering where we came from.
It's remembering where because we got out of it and got into the world and worked through
the world and now we're coming back to where it's at.
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So it's just remembering where we come from.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we're fascinated by that because when we do this kind of work and Mary and Karen
make it look easy because they've been doing it for a long time, you know.
And going back and unpacking this and like Mary mentioned, you know, getting through
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those breakthrough moments when you have to get away from some thought patterns and when
you have to just explore things takes courage.
There's no doubt about it, right?
We have to just look at it and say, I think I can do this.
I'm not sure.
Well, we tell them we know you can do this coming to the classes.
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Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And again, when you meet your classmates, as I met Mary the very first time, you start
to identify that everyone's sort of like in this—has similar different ideas, similar
different things that you can share.
And then it normalizes it, doesn't it?
Yeah.
And everybody's at a different level, but that's okay.
In these classes, everybody starts at square one and moves up.
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So it's not like, oh, this person starts here and this person starts here.
We just do the same thing.
We do all the exercises together.
We do all—everything.
Oh, yeah.
And it may be a little bit of a review, but it's totally different than I've ever had
before.
So I doubt they've ever gotten this.
It's a science-based psychic class that was developed from a science person.
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So it made sense to me because it was science-based.
Right.
So, wow, I'm just jumping out of my chair right now because that's phenomenal.
That's great information.
And I'll tell you why.
When I started on my journey, I'll just—this is a little reveal.
I went to a therapist because I wasn't sure I was really—my mind space was—my mental
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space was in the right place.
And I brought a proposal to my therapist and I said, I want to invest some time and energy
in this and money.
But here are my criteria.
And I'm not going to invest in anything that doesn't feel like a scientific endeavor.
What it has to feel is though there's research behind it and there's something that has
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been explored before.
Do you know what I mean?
And the scientific piece of it was very, very important.
And that's one of the things the anesthesia stays and delivers.
It has a proven method for people who are, as beginners, or like you mentioned, coming
back or—and you know, another aspect, Mary, just my mind's racing, is if you're a person
who has developed your clairs, let's say, or you're psychically wide open, right?
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We found in the classes there were people who were coming in who were trying to control
those, get them under control, because they were just—they were overwhelming them in
some aspect.
Well, and a lot of people have been told they're crazy.
Yes.
Because they had them and brought them out and they didn't know how to control them.
They have entities coming in, dark ones and white ones, all kinds of stuff, and they don't
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know what to do with them.
Sure.
Yeah.
We have all kinds of ways to control it, shut it off, everything.
Sure.
Absolutely.
Just one last question, and you've been extremely generous with your time today, and
I and my listeners really appreciate it.
You mentioned a word, two words you said, and they jumped out at me.
And you said, worry box.
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Worry box.
Would you mind explaining what that is a little bit?
It's a box that you, in your mind, you develop this box.
You can make it enormous, you can make it small, you can make it—design it whatever
way you want, but you have this box that you put anything that bothers you that's going
to get in your way into this box and you put it behind you.
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That's how a worry box is.
It's nothing that you've got to make, it's something in your mind that you make.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you find that effective for psychic?
Oh, it works.
It definitely works.
Sometimes you put your whole body in there.
Right, yes.
Yeah.
I'm familiar with that concept.
I have a bag.
Mine looks more like a trash bag because my box got too small.
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In the Anastasia system, they recommend using a box because they assume that what you have
to put in there is small and it will fit.
But I have to have this big bag, really big bag.
That's okay.
And I start from the bottom and I put myself in the bag almost every day and it represents
my ego.
And once I can cancel that and dismiss it, release it, and just let it take a side, like
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Mary said, off to the chair, put it in the chair, once we can dismiss it and let it just
do a sideliner.
Yeah, you've got to sit there.
Yeah.
Otherwise, it results in some analysis paralysis for me.
I get to, what's this, I've got to touch everything, I've got to understand everything.
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I'm looking at them.
Bad or judging what you get or not.
Is this real?
Am I really thinking this?
That's right.
Oh, that sounds stupid.
No, that's not right.
I'm just making this up.
No, that's only ego.
Absolutely.
And my ego is tied directly to my development because I want to watch the map while I'm
supposed to be walking and following the journey.
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And I miss the flowers, I miss everything because I'm too busy focused on the map.
I've got to make sure I'm doing this right.
And it's inhibitive, isn't it?
Yes.
Yeah, because you get in your own way.
At least I get in my own way.
And if you encounter that, that's again something that Mary and Karen and the classes can help
you work through, both developing your abilities.
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We have lots of exercises in those classes that we go through.
Every exercise in the book, sometimes there's two different exercises and you might only
do one, which is the same exercise, it's just done a different way.
But you have a book, you can do the other one yourself.
But every exercise in the book we do in class.
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So you've got a feel for it, you understand it, you can do it again while on videos, you
can do it again out of the book.
There's all kinds of different ways to get out of that.
And you'll soon, I'd say within level one, if not level two, you will, your ego, you'll
know which one's your ego and which one's not.
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Yeah.
Well, today has been fascinating.
We have visited with Mary E. Bacher Estridge and we have been unpacking the fascinating
world of connecting with your higher self.
And again, just to wrap up Mary, the classes are hands on.
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If you're a person who's listening to this broadcast today and you're not sure, I don't
know if I can engage in that, I don't know if it's worth it, if you have some doubts,
give yourself some time.
But today's really going to be a sign or a signal for you to invest really in yourself
because the psychic and the mediumship and the spirit communication, while they might
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feel new at the beginning, are just the normal realms of the psychics.
And the language we use today, if it feels a little unusual, is really not so unusual.
And part of the class helps you acclimate to that sort of thing.
And it's like-minded people in a safe place where you're all learning and growing together.
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Correct.
And we do have replays.
We do, if we remember, we have replays.
Well that's very valuable because I found, just real quick story, I found that when I
was doing some student teaching that one of the students came back and had said that they
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were listening to the replay on their second shift at work and they had sped up the replay
so that they could listen to it on their break.
And it never occurred to me that you could go through the videos and speed up so it goes
through.
I thought, oh my gosh, after four years I finally- so we're all learning.
Yes, yes.
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Again, the benefit of technology.
Myriad has been an absolute pleasure.
It's been a delight to have you here.
I knew I would be excited and it's a complete over-deliver.
I never expected to have this much great information available to the listeners today.
And again- Well thank you so much for having me.
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Absolutely.
And I want to continue the conversation.
We want to make sure that if you're excited about as much as we are to have you here and
you want to talk to Mary Moore, explore whatever opportunities are available for you psychically,
or just have a conversation.
Sometimes we just need to feel like somebody can connect with us in a way that we understand.
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Because these things take time.
They unfold in their own way.
You can reach out to Mary at her email address, thepsychicmary.gmail.com.
The Psychic Mary is all one word, at gmail.com.
And you can check out her website that has lots and lots of information, thepsychicmary.wixsite.com.
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Thepsychicmary.wixsite.com.
And she will be more than happy to continue the discussion with you about your own abilities
and your own development.
And if there's something that we talked about today that interests you, some type topic
about not related to connecting with your higher self, I'm sure she'd welcome that
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as well.
Because oftentimes this is how we find ourselves.
Like Mary mentioned in the beginning of the broadcast, there's a little glimmer.
There's a dream.
It's a something, something says something.
It could be one of those sayings on the back of a teabag.
It could be a phrase.
It could be a song on the radio.
It could be a passing of a loved one.
There could be all sorts of these sort of intuitive, internal, but very personal kind
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of interactions that you feel connected or you feel has been some sort of a way that's
awakened or aroused some awareness.
And it's a little thread.
I think Mary mentioned the word.
It's a little thread.
And it's a whisper.
And that's all it needs to be.
Some of you know, a professional musician, in some of the scripture that they read yesterday
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in the faith community, it said the voice is in the whisper.
And that was one of my absolute favorite phrases.
Because it's, well, it's exciting.
We see the mediums and we see the psychics on TV and doing platform and they have these
emotional sort of sensationalized dramatic experiences.
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Folks, Mary can tell you, it begins here.
It's deep work.
Yes.
And I've had those fantastic readings, unbelievable readings.
And people are so thankful.
And you'll hear about lots of them in the class.
They don't have time here.
But it's a phenomenal, phenomenal.
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Yeah, yeah.
And it's one of these things we can talk, it's like the taste of chocolate.
What does chocolate taste like?
It's an analogy I use a lot.
If you try to describe what chocolate tastes like, it's difficult.
And you can talk about it all day long, you know.
And I've mentioned several times in my broadcasts, you know, we can go, if you put enough psychics
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and mediums in a room, the conversation will continue because it's so diverse and so dynamic
and there's so many different perspectives that people can contribute to.
Well, we're talking a lot about channeling and that type thing, but if you don't want
to channel, it's okay to just take one, two, three, which works on your gifts alone.
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You're not channeling it, maybe with your higher self, but you're not channeling anything
else.
So if you just want to work on those, take levels one through three.
If you want to channel, take all six.
Sure, yeah.
And if you're uncertain, right?
So it sounds like the courses are designed to be customized for your comfort level.
If you feel like you just want to stop at some point and just take a breather and just
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go that far, that's not unusual.
The course has been designed with that mindset.
The person, Sandy and Stacey, who put it together, knew that some people wouldn't necessarily,
they want to do chapters one, two, three, and they're good enough, they're full enough,
right?
Other people are hogs like me who can't get enough.
Well, some people believe in that, some people don't.
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Correct, yes.
So.
And that's okay, right?
That's okay.
It's fine.
It works for some people, it doesn't work.
You know, again, media and television and stuff can sensationalize that stuff.
And believe me, you don't just start spirit communication without the fundamentals.
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And I think if we've done anything today, we've emphasized how important the fundamentals
are and getting a solid, otherwise it can become.
I'm just glad that I had the fundamentals.
Me too.
There are a lot of people that don't have them, and if you run into them for a reading,
you're scared for them because they have no clue.
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You can see the ego come out, you can see this come out.
You want to counsel them, but you've got to allow them to have free will and do their
thing.
Absolutely.
And again, back to that scientific sort of basis, right?
Everything needs to be quantitative and a methodology so that it makes sense to you.
Because if it doesn't resonate with you and you can't, it sounds kind of crazy, not crazy.
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But some people in the field will say woohoo if it sounds just too far beyond.
It's not attractive and no one wants to engage in that, right?
So these fundamentals that we're talking about are based in scientific methodology.
Basically, they give you answers and if you want more information, they tell you what
to do.
They tell you where to go.
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Right.
Exactly.
So if we don't have the answer, you want to investigate it further, there's all kinds
of resources to give you that direction.
Absolutely.
That's what I like so much out of these.
So we're not going to let Mary go until we get her to promise to come back and talk about
something that she just talked about.
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So empirical data.
Empirical data is something that Mary and I experienced when we became teachers.
When we experience it for ourselves, we're in our own skin, right?
So that's our experience, that's our story, we're sticking to it.
It goes in our journal and we know that's us, right?
But when someone says as a light worker who's already shining a light, you should be a light
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worker too and then they bring you in where you teach someone else to do that.
At that moment is when you realize the capabilities and how that functions.
You understand the quantitative results, the methodology, the empirical information now
because first of all you have to study it.
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The teacher teaches you how to teach, right?
But it takes you to that next step where you have to ask those difficult questions about
well, how does this work?
And that's where I think if you're listening carefully Mary, you'll hear that we do understand
how it works and harkening back to what she said previous, when you meet someone in the
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field who maybe didn't have the opportunity to engage in the fundamentals as we have,
then you sort of notice maybe an imbalance, right?
Or maybe a…
Correct.
Yeah, that's all.
And again, no judgment because we all come to this our own way.
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We develop people, now we're going back to readings again, we develop them how to do
reading and when you get somebody that hasn't had those fundamentals, you will see the ego
come in and you're getting ego stuck.
You're not getting a reading, you're getting what they empathically are getting from you.
And it's not a reading at all.
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They are reading you and giving you back information about you.
So that's almost robbing Peter, you know?
It's not giving you a reading and you've paid this money for a reading.
So it's not exactly a reading, it's empathic reading.
So folks, that was an example, a perfect example that was not staged, we did not script that,
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of what Mary offers, you see?
You can discern between, you know…
To give you evidential information from spirit that can't come from anybody else.
That enables an authentic experience, you see?
So that's the difference between someone who just, you know, kind of sets up a card
table at the fair and does some readings for you, even though this might be effective,
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right?
And someone who really understands how the process works and what to deliver and how
to deliver it.
And I think Mary did mention ethics and we're going to invite her back, folks.
So if you didn't get enough, like I have it, we're going to invite her to come back
and talk about another topic, another fascinating topic, because we've mentioned about a hundred
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today and yeah, I'd love to explore it.
It's like being in a library, you just don't know which book to…
You know when it's little for one book, you want to take at least six home.
So I'm going to just thank again, Mary, profusely for coming on the program today
and sharing all this great information.
And one last time, we're going to let people know how to get in contact with you, continue
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that conversation, to reach out to Mary and sign up for those classes.
Again, September 14th is the beginning.
I feel like there's somebody out there who's…
We do have an orientation at the end of this month, so if you go on the website, it's
all there.
Sure, yeah.
And so just using some psychic stuff, I feel like there's people out there listening to
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this who are looking at the stairs and are seeing all the stairs.
Maybe there's like ten steps and it's like, oh, I don't do so good on steps, I'm not
sure.
But you know, you only need to do the first one.
You just have to take the first one and let Mary and Karen guide you along the rest.
You're not alone.
You're not… your psychic development is…
And you know, when we talk about spirituality, the first part of that word is spirit, right?
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Spirit.
Your spirit, higher self.
We're all talking about spirituality and it's a wonderful dimension to explore.
So take a deep breath, think about it, and then look at that website.
It's thepsychicmary.wixsite.com and explore that a little bit more.
Mary, thank you so much for coming on the program.
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We look forward to having you again in the future.
My listeners will definitely be on the lookout for those announcements on the next program.
And thank you again.
I really appreciate you coming on board.
Thank you.
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Hello this is Peter Smith, Psychic Pete, and I'm broadcasting to you from my home office
in Niagara Falls, New York.
And today is Monday, August 14th, and it's a very special day here on the broadcast because
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we have an interview.
And we have a very special guest today whom I'm interviewing.
She's agreed to come on the program and she's an expert in her field.
And again, I'm very, very excited today to welcome Mary Ebacher Estridge, who's a
psychic and a medium.
She's a teacher and she facilitates lots of different experiences for folks like us who
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are interested in psychic and spirit communication topics.
So if you're joining us today for the first time, welcome.
It's great to have you here on this very special day.
And if you're a returning listener, you're welcome and thanks for coming back.
I appreciate it.
Before we get to Mary, she's on hold with us, I just want to address what we're trying
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to do today.
We've invited some folks who are experts in their field to come on the program and talk
about things that they are doing and share with us different aspects of their professional
lives as psychics and mediums.
And so we've invited Mary to come on and she's going to be talking to us about something
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that she feels is very important.
And that is, her topic today is connecting with your higher self.
And this is very important.
So what we try to do here is pick different topics that people like ourselves are interested
in exploring more about the different aspects of mediumship and spirit communication.
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And ask them to come on the program and talk about these things and share them with us.
And you'll have an opportunity during the broadcast to find out how to connect with
and communicate with Mary directly if you have questions or things that come up.
So before we get too ahead of ourselves, let's go back and welcome Mary today to the broadcast.
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Mary, thank you so much for coming on today.
It's delightful to have you here.
And I'm very excited to have you here today.
Oh, I'm so glad I could be here.
Thank you, thank you for inviting me.
My pleasure.
So as I was telling our listeners, we're going to talk today about something very exciting,
connecting with your higher self.
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Now I know this is very, very fascinating for me.
And I think one of the reasons I find it fascinating is because the spiritual life is really the
dimension that we're all talking about, right?
You know, when we talk about connecting with our higher self, it's really with going inside
and looking at what's there and connecting to it.
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You know what I mean?
And that's a real thing, isn't it?
Yes, it is.
It's, it's, and even, you can get a lot of information from connecting within.
It shoots you in the right direction when you start listening to it.
It gives you guidance.
It's just phenomenal what all you can do with it.
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Okay, when you say gives you guidance, it's, so it's like a little resource, right?
You can sort of, you know, find out some insights or get some information about some decisions
or choices in your life or just maybe get a different perspective about what's going
on.
I know we were speaking earlier before the broadcast and we were sort of analyzing some
stuff that happened earlier.
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And I think when you, when you have those kinds of skills available to you, it's an
added dimension, isn't it?
To be able to kind of, yeah, yeah, tools, you know, tools to use things to unpack them.
To give you more information.
And it helps you make decisions.
I think it makes it a healthier lifestyle.
It gives it a lot of value to the spiritual life, doesn't it?
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It's a practical sort of thing where people can, you know, contact you or another psychic
or medium and they can, you know, you can use the tools that you have, like connecting
to your higher self, to help them explore what that, what meaning that has for them.
Well, and it gives you a direction that's more healthy for yourself to go in and it
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gets the ego out of the way so that you can go in the right direction and be happy in
your life.
Sure, yeah.
And who doesn't want that, right?
We could all use a little more peace and happiness, at least I could.
And I think those around me would agree, you know.
The more grounded I am, the better I am for them, right?
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So Mary, before we get too far ahead of ourselves, my mind's racing a little bit today so I'm
talking a little bit faster than I normally would, but would you mind telling us a little
bit about yourself, maybe some of your background?
I know our listeners would be interested to hear some of your, you know, a couple snapshots
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about your day-to-day life.
You know, the psychics and mediums that are on our program that come on are normal people.
Mary's normal, I assure you, Mary's normal.
And that's one of the wonderful gifts that you can, when you can relate to somebody and
have, you know, a great communication and share things in a non-technical way that's
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relatable, I can assure you.
At the end of the broadcast, I'm sure you'll agree with me that Mary's extremely relatable.
So Mary, just tell us a little about what you do and where you are and your work.
I'm in Bristol, Tennessee.
We went on the road for 19 years in an RV and went all over the country and landed in
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Bristol, Tennessee to retire.
And I was a dietitian way back when, and still am a dietitian, but I'm not doing anything
with it right at the moment.
I started in my spiritual work in about 2015 when I followed a lady that was doing work
with fermenting foods and she went into Hay House.
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That's how I found Hay House.
Hay House has lots of teachers and everything that have, most of them taught one thing.
You get a book and they taught you one thing.
I wanted something that I could learn all the things.
So I was on a search for that and came into that Sandy Anastasi, she had some stuff online
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and then some other psychics talked about Sandy Anastasi.
And I looked into her classes.
I loved what she had to teach, but I wanted to make sure that she had people I could connect
with, that I could get a partner with because there was nobody around me that did this stuff
that I could ask to be my partner.
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And they assured me that they'd have plenty of partners for me, so I took the class.
Well, lo and behold, I am now teaching that class and I loved it so much.
It taught me so much about myself that I now teach it with a co-partner and have been doing
that ever since.
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I teach in meetup groups around the here, different topics, and I'm just absolutely
loving the spiritual realm and love and teaching.
Yes.
Teaching is definitely an important part of your life.
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We'll come back to that.
We'll make sure that we get back to that.
And I think, not to be too cliché, I feel the same way.
I can relate to this and maybe many of our listeners can relate to this too.
Once you delve into the spiritual life, if you get the right path and you find it resonates
for you, Mary, like it does for me, it really does let you lead your best life.
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I feel like I'm the best version of myself right now and I'm always excited to see what
tomorrow's going to bring because it's always different.
I agree.
It gave me the possibility of connecting with the higher spirits and stuff like that, doing
readings and all that.
And then since then I've been able to go through the classes several times and never
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believed I'd ever be teaching and I am because I believe in it.
Sure.
You're very empowered, isn't it?
And you know, truthful.
That's another aspect I think is important to always consider.
We strive for the element of truth in almost everything.
So if you're sort of feeling like things don't resonate with you, sometimes it's because
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they're not truthful.
Maybe they're not aligned correctly.
But before I get too far ahead of myself, again, I want to flip the page back and talk
about 2015.
Mary was saying that, I think she said, correct me if I'm wrong, Mary, your spiritual journey
sort of began around 2015 with Hay House?
Yes.
Okay.
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So I don't think we've ever had this conversation, but my spiritual journey began at the end
of 2015.
And I was wondering if I had an angel around and I literally typed on my computer, are
you there?
And I felt something respond.
Anyway, not about me, it's about Mary today.
But Hay House is where I first opened that door.
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I went to Hay House and there was a course.
It was called Project You. It was given by John Edward and I just couldn't believe I spent
the money because I didn't know what I was doing.
Completely lost going backwards, right?
In the dark.
And so 2015 was when I just kind of just started, you know, exploring, talking about things.
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And I couldn't even say the word tarot correctly.
I said tarot like carrot.
Hopeless, completely hopeless, you know?
But you learn.
You know, if you're a person who's visiting the program today and you're just starting
out, if you're a beginner, Mary and I would like to assure you that, you know, we all
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start someplace, whether we're gifted with these abilities naturally or someone encouraged
us or if you're on your own path of development with a teacher or, you know, some studies,
by all means, one day at a time, just take that first step and we all know what it's
like to begin.
And I think Mary will agree.
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It can be a journey of a lot of blood, sweat and tears and money.
It can get expensive, but it's worth it.
I think Mary and I will both, you know, witness to the fact that it's definitely worth it.
But getting back to the 2015 and the Hay House, Mary mentioned school.
So I'm going to create that connection.
This is how I know Mary.
We met as classmates in the Sandy Anastasi courses.
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It's called the Anastasi System of Psychic Development.
And as she mentioned, we were classmates and they paired us up and we had to work together.
And Mary was very, very kind, very patient, very, very understanding and knowledgeable.
And she understood a lot where people were going to go and where they're coming from.
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So I'm always very grateful for that.
So her teaching and her teaching, she is going to teach us today.
We're going to have some instructional about, you know, connecting with your higher self
and if you're just tuning in, we are today chatting with our guest.
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Her name is Mary E. Bacher Estridge.
And if you have any questions at this point, I want to give you her email address so that
you can reach out to her.
And her email address is thepsychicmary at gmail.com.
The Psychic Mary is all one word, at gmail.com.
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And you can also find out her contact information or contact her on her website.
And I'll give you the website.
Name is thepsychicmary.wixsite.com.
The Psychic Mary, all one word, dot wixsite.com.
And it's got wonderful information about that.
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It talks about how you can get in touch with Mary.
It also talks about classes as a teacher.
She's got some information about how you can connect with her if you're interested in more
information about the classes.
And our classes are starting up in September.
We have an orientation in this month and then start up in September 14th.
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So if you want any of that information, it's all on the website.
Just a month away.
So tell us more about that.
So if it's a person, are these classes for beginner beginners or are they people who
may be beginning in the middle or coming back from having explored this maybe earlier in
the lifetime?
What type of people would be?
Anybody.
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We start from square one and move all the way up to challenge.
The first three levels are all about your psychic abilities and how you develop them
and use exercises to get into it.
The last three are channeling and all about channeling.
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Exciting.
So you can take the first three.
You don't have to take the last three or you can take all six if you're interested in channeling.
Interesting.
Yes.
So are those weekly classes?
People come and they sign up and then there's a—
We have weekly classes.
Our classes are 7:30pm to 9:00pm on Thursday nights Eastern time.
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We offer videos along with our classes so that you can get another perspective of what
we're talking about, what we're teaching.
It's Karen Matteis, and I.
We both teach the class together.
We work with each student and where they are and what they need as we go along.
So it's personal yet you get all kinds of things that can aid in your growth.
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Sure.
Yeah.
And that's quite special too to have a course like this that's designed and facilitated
by two teachers.
So it complements one another, doesn't it?
Because you can both contribute.
Right.
Yeah.
But it also helps you because I know it's a hands-on kind of experience because I'm
familiar with the Anastasia system as well.
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And it's very much involvement.
It's a lot of participation at the level that you're at.
So both Mary and Karen have a lot of experience working with students who are beginners or
people who are just finding the way through.
And there's lots of energy and lots of resources available.
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Like you mentioned the videos.
It's not just the videos.
If you need help, if you're having difficulty understanding something, having the value
of a teacher available to guide you, you know what I mean?
It's very important.
I required a lot of hand-holding when I went through.
And that's very, very important because we tend to doubt ourselves.
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We tend to question things.
We tend to be sort of methodical.
And because it's spiritual, it's very, very personal.
And having two teachers, having two people there during that process is very, very...
But it's also methodical.
So you're going to feel like you're making progress.
You're not just studying one thing.
It's a chapter.
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It's an extremely well-defined program that allows you to see your own progress and charge
your own progress.
And it's lots of fun.
You meet other people and you discover where your strengths are and where your weaknesses
are and where you need to grow and what your abilities really look like.
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I know that— Well, it's amazing watching the students
that come into the class.
Some of them know a lot.
Some of them don't know anything.
What they learn and how they learn.
I can do that!
Wow!
I can do that!
And they just don't think they can.
They can't.
And then you walk them through the exercise and go and spit out the first thing they think
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of or feel or see and come to find out it was all right.
So validation is there.
We have exercises.
You're not going to believe what you learn.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah.
And you know what?
Another aspect of this is that it's very empowering.
So I think empowering is our word of the day today.
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Back when Mary and I started in 2015, there were some things that were online.
But if you today are interested in that, there's much more resources available online to do
this kind of study.
Because what Mary and Karen are offering are online classes.
But back in the day, you might have to travel 40 or 50 miles or even more.
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Mary and I both know—I'm in a name drop here—a person who's a teacher in the Anastasi
system, her name is Joy.
And at one point, people had to get on planes and travel for a weekend or over several weekends
to attend the courses that were held in person in a hotel room or something.
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So today, these are more available.
And so it's just great.
And it's nice.
I've learned to embrace the technology—I think Mary probably has too—of Zoom and Skype
and that sort of thing, to make this available to folks.
And that's one of the added benefits.
So having that—and of course, the course materials are in a book.
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And Mary mentioned that they also have a video, which is helpful, co-teaching.
So check that out.
Again, the website where you can find more information about the courses starting September
14th, next month, is thepsychicmary.wixsite.com.
ThePsychicMary, all one word,.wixsite.com.
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And wixsite is W-I-X-S-I-T, just in case.
Thank you, Mary.
Yeah.
So if you're just joining us, we are having a fascinating conversation.
We're getting to know Mary E. Bacher Estridge a little bit better.
We're talking to her about today's topic, which we're going to dive into in just a
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second, connecting with your higher self.
So Mary, let's just say that I don't know anything about connecting with my higher self.
What would we do to just sort of get closer to that idea?
What's that concept of—let's say, what is the higher self?
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Is that our soul?
Is that our consciousness?
Is it—what would that—what does that look like?
Or what's that feel like?
Your higher self is a part of you.
It's actually a little bit higher, and you're connected to it through a thread that you
can't see.
It's your soul.
It's another extension of you that's in the higher realm, basically.
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I see.
Right.
Okay.
So are there ways that this kind of manifests itself, the higher self manifests itself,
or a way you can detect it, or is there a way—an everyday experience with the higher
self come into play in a practical way in our lives, in our day-to-day lives at work,
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or with our families, or in relationships?
Yeah.
Let me go into connecting to your higher self.
Okay.
So I'm going to start with my feelings.
Protection isn't needed with the higher self because it's part of you.
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Okay.
Okay?
And if you're connecting outside of yourself, including outside of your higher self, you
do need to protect, and I'll tell you why in a few minutes.
In connecting, if your channel, anything else, I highly recommend that you protect yourself.
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The higher your energy, you are becoming a beacon out in the world.
Why protect?
Some people say not.
I don't attract negativity, so I don't need to protect, and I don't worry about it.
I protect just to be safe, just in case there are NDs that feed on higher energy.
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They are not common, but if you happen to run into somebody that has one attachment
to them and they see more energy, they might decide you're a better candidate and attach
to you.
So I do just to make sure.
For example, do you own a car, and if so, do you buy insurance?
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You don't buy insurance just to know you are going to have an accident.
You buy it to protect yourself, the same reason I protect myself.
Okay.
Trying to get into your higher self, meditation is one practice that you can feel your own
energy.
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That's what your higher self is going to feel like, your own energy, because that's you.
So in meditation, you can actually feel what your energy feels like.
Who, what can you channel?
You can channel your higher self, which is you.
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Now if you go above that, make sure you protect, which might be your guides, angels, spirits
on the other side, a live person's higher self, animals, plants, past lives and future
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readings.
Those possibilities are endless, really.
Sometimes you really want to know if you're actually believing what you get.
So how you verify?
Muscle testing.
You can do muscle testing a whole bunch of different ways, by somebody pushing on your
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arm, by putting your fingers in O positions around, okay, your thumb and your next finger
on both hands, putting them in loops.
And if you pull real easy, that's a no.
If you pull and it doesn't come apart, that's a yes.
There's all kinds of ways to do muscle testing, so check that out.
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Getting a pendulum, and another way is to get a channel or a medium to verify it.
You just verify until you feel comfortable with what you're getting.
If you feel comfortable with what you're getting, you don't have to verify it, but if you really
need to have verification that's what I'm getting, verify it.
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Things that you might ask, if you ask a question, you've got to ask the right question.
Questions need to be specific and only ask one thing at a time.
Be careful of your wording.
The more specific usually is better.
An example of that, will I die?
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What's wrong with that question?
Here?
Pretty general, right?
Yeah, it's too vague.
Too vague.
Yeah.
The answer would be yes, but is that really what you want?
If you want to know if you should buy this house or that house, this example is two questions,
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actually.
Do I want to buy this house?
Is this house going to be best for me?
Is this house going to be better?
You have to be specific with the question.
Double check the question is actually what you want and is concise.
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We're going to have a meditation in a little while.
If anybody's driving, please park.
We will need a paper and a pencil possibly to write down something, so we can go get
a paper and a pencil.
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We'll hold on for just a second and make sure we have paper and a pencil.
And then parking.
Okay.
Mary, while we're waiting for our folks to go gather their materials, their pens and
paper and taking a minute to pull off the road and to park safely, because we want to
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make sure that when you go into that space, that head space, that you're not distracted.
We don't want to create any safety problems there.
I'm just going to go back and make a couple notes that I just want to revisit.
First one was protection.
It seems like you were talking about psychic protection and you were emphasizing the importance
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of that whenever we engage in this kind of psychic work.
It's important to understand what and why we psychically protect, right?
If you are listening to this and you are familiar with how to psychically protect, then it's
always good to reinforce that.
If you're not sure, if you're new to psychic protection and you need a couple little bits
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of information about how to perform that, you can reach out to Mary and you can let
her know that you'd like some tips, that's the word I was using, about how to psychically
protect.
And she can offer that for you as well.
The other thing you mentioned was verification.
That's very important.
That's an important aspect of this, connecting with your higher self.
And verification can also be thought, correct me if I'm wrong, Mary, as validation.
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If you're self-doubting, if you're in that head space where you're just not sure, you're
feeling a little unclear, and you know what you're getting, you know that's what you're
getting, but you're not sure if it fits or it matches, these verification methods are
very effective for that.
So that's how we address that self-doubt.
Self-confidence is a very integral part to the work that Mary does, Mary and Karen.
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And when you go through the courses that they offer, those classes, you develop self-confidence.
They show you how to overcome that because we all have doubts.
We all have uncertainties.
And it's necessary to address those and take it seriously.
And you're going to see your confidence level just skyrocket because once you achieve that.
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The third thing, and I want to make sure I got this Mary, I wrote down as you were speaking,
it's important, you're emphasizing it's important to carefully to word those questions and be
very, very specific.
Because as you pointed out, a general question is going to give you a general answer, right?
Sure.
So, you know, you just go to the store and buy some fruits and an allergy and just come
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home with some fruit, or you can go to the store with an idea that you want some apples
and come home with apples.
So you might have to know how to word those questions.
And again, sometimes doing this on our own, we can give little butterfingers, psychically,
right?
Having Mary and Karen as your mentors, having them walk you through this is where that real,
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having a teacher is where it's very, very valuable.
And I think you can all tell Mary's very concise.
She's very deliberate and she's very clear and direct, which is great.
It's a great gift to have when you're trying to work with people who are in that head space
and get lost.
I know just we're giving people time to, I'm just going to wrap up so we can move on.
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But if we tend to get too lost in our heads, psychically, or let's say, you know, meditation,
and we enjoy that and we float around too much like I tend to do, it can get confusing.
And so having somebody, not somebody, but having Mary help you work through the materials,
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work through the class, step by step, is one of the benefits of signing up for the classes
and enjoying it.
The website is the psychicmary.wixsite.com and you can email her at thepsychicmary, all
one word, at gmail.com (thepsychicmary,@gmail.com) if you have any questions.
And I'm going to turn it back over to Mary.
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Thank you.
There's a whole slew of ways you can get information.
If you've ever heard of the Clar's that's what I'm talking about.
Clarvoyance
That's Clar seeing.
They actually see something, but most of the time it's through your third eye or your mind's
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eye that you see it.
Some people have their eyes open, some people can see it only with their eyes closed.
Clar Audience is Clar hearing.
That is hearing outside the body or inside the body.
When it's inside the body it's actually telepathy, but they put it under Clar Audience.
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Clar Sentience is Clar feeling.
Clar Audience is Clar smelling.
Claire Custiance is Claire tasting.
Clar Cognizant is Clar knowing.
I've had Clar Audience all my life.
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I thought everybody had it, so nobody deemed me and said I was doing bad because I thought
everybody had it, so it never came up until I came into these classes and found out not
everybody has that.
So I've heard things all my life.
Big reveal.
I developed many of the other ones, all the rest of the Claire's while taking the classes.
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So if you think you don't have any, you really do have one that's strong.
You may not pay attention to it, but you'll develop several of them while you're in the
classes and it will be magical.
So don't worry about it if you don't think you have any.
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When talking to your Higher Self or anything else, you must initiate the competition.
They are respectful of your free will.
I communicate with my Higher Self and my guides and I allow them to talk to me anytime.
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I've got a communication with them, they can come in and guide me, they can come in and
talk to me at any time they want to when they see fit.
That's something I've worked out with them.
It's been perfect for me.
I am grateful during the morning.
I tell them I thank them.
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I'm grateful at night.
When I go to bed, I thank them.
If you connect with entities higher than yourself, protect or say a prayer of protection first.
Just another reiteration, protect, protect, protect.
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Okay, we talked about ego before.
When you're raising your vibration to allow, to listen to Higher Self, you have to put
ego aside.
You need to let go of the ego and get it out of the way.
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It will want to control what is going on.
Actually, the ego's purpose here is to protect you.
Well, when you're talking to your Higher Self, you do not need protection from your ego.
You can put it on the chair next to you, tell it to take a break.
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You got this.
You can put it in a pretty box, whatever box you design, put it in it and shove it behind
you.
It works.
You've got to get that ego under control.
If it starts telling you to do something, that's your ego.
Get it out of there.
Just allow.
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If you're asking questions, be sure to write them down beforehand, make sure they're specific.
Now, hopefully everybody's got their paper and pencil on you.
Park the car because we're going to start the meditation really quick.
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Close your eyes.
Take your ego and anything else that bothers you and set it aside.
Always trust what you get.
Usually the first thing that popped in, take it.
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Don't justify it.
That's your ego.
Don't say, oh, this don't mean anything.
That's your ego.
Take the first thing that you get.
Some people will get like maybe for example, an umbrella.
The umbrella may mean something to that person or it may be something that's going to happen
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in the future.
Just note it and watch for what this umbrella has to do.
You can always ask a question if you're puzzled about what you got.
Just ask, can you give me more information?
What does this mean?
You might get an answer.
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Allow yourself to get into a higher state.
If you meditate, that's the state I kind of want.
Relax your body.
Everything in your body relaxes.
Your feet, your legs, your torso, your head.
Everything relax.
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Take three deep breaths and let them out slowly.
Now breathe normally and pay attention to your breath.
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Now ask your higher self, what does a higher self want me to know?
Be open to anything you hear, see, feel, know, taste or smell.
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Throw down anything you get, especially the first thing that comes in.
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Come in.
Hold it.
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Hold it.
Hopefully everybody got something.
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If you've got questions on what you got, you can email me and maybe I can help you.
If you understand what you got, you got a message from your higher self.
Don't try to overanalyze it, just think about it, where it fits in your life, where it says
you need to go or do or what, and take it as that sign.
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It may be something in the future, if it is, just note it and be aware as you go through
your life and see where it fits.
Any questions, go to thepsychicmary.gmail.com.
Mary, that was marvelous.
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Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
I could feel the energy coming through.
Mary and I are connected on a Zoom connection and I could feel the channel get built and
I could feel the energy just making the connection.
Mary, I have some questions that might be relevant to our listeners.
I made some notes as we were going along.
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It seems that what we're saying here when we connect to your higher self is you're creating
a dialogue, right?
I mean, overall.
Correct.
I wrote protect and connect is step one.
Protect and connect.
If you're going above your higher self, you protect.
Gotcha.
If you don't go over your higher self, you can talk to your higher self anytime.
Sure.
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Then the second one, thank you, the second one I wrote down is questions.
Look for answers.
Listen for answers.
You're just asking a question, forming that question, but then paying attention to what
the answer might be.
Here's my question about that.
What happens if I get a little distracted, if I get confused, if I'm not really sure
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what—maybe I didn't hear anything, maybe I didn't see anything, maybe there was no
signs, no symbols.
Is there anything I can do?
Are there any techniques I can try?
You can—if you meditate every day, try right after you meditate to ask that question.
If you still don't get anything, try right as soon as you get up in the morning.
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Right when you're in that groggy state, ask then, because you're in that alpha state
at that time.
Just ask, is there anything my higher self wants me to know?
And then listen.
Just allow and listen.
Don't have the ego in there chit-chatting and telling you how to do it.
Just listen.
Now, I say listen, it might be feeling, it may be smelling, it may be hearing, it could
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be any of those things.
I hear.
That's why I always say listen.
But it could be any which way.
Got it.
Thank you.
Really, really great information today.
So I think what you're saying too is distractions are a normal part of the beginning process.
You can expect those sometimes, right?
Yes.
If your mind is racing and you're not sure.
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Persevering is a part of this process.
Right.
Yeah, we need to persevere.
Mary's speaking from experience.
She's telling us that she did not sit down and one day have this lightning-bolt moment
of aha.
It was a process.
And I've written down some other notes.
Development, right?
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And you use the word magical.
I wrote down the word magical because this is.
It is candy magical.
It's a journey of self-discovery and it does feel as though when you start to go inside
and you discover, you have this wonderful journey of discovery about abilities.
And I just want to just go back and flip that page back about abilities.
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Now, you were talking about the Claire's Mary and you were saying that you can hear, you
know, psychically, we can see psychically and even taste psychically, I think you were
saying.
But some people have strengths, you know, it's normal.
I think that's what you're saying.
Is that correct?
Right.
Some people would have more abilities to hear something or see something than they might.
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Usually they have one that stands out but they may not understand it or know it.
I see.
I see.
So, part of what the class does is help you to identify what these are and then discover
them, unpack them a little bit and then develop them.
And I wrote down enjoy.
That's part of the magical piece of this.
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Yes.
Because you can enjoy this.
So, Mary, you know, the question we had in the beginning, I got ahead of myself, is the
practical application of this is it improves your life.
It gives you another dimension of your spirituality.
That can anybody do this?
Yes.
Anybody.
Yes.
Right.
Sure.
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And it's psychic, believe it or not.
Sure.
Yeah.
When they were kids, they knew this.
It's remembering where we came from.
It's remembering where because we got out of it and got into the world and worked through
the world and now we're coming back to where it's at.
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So it's just remembering where we come from.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we're fascinated by that because when we do this kind of work and Mary and Karen
make it look easy because they've been doing it for a long time, you know.
And going back and unpacking this and like Mary mentioned, you know, getting through
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those breakthrough moments when you have to get away from some thought patterns and when
you have to just explore things takes courage.
There's no doubt about it, right?
We have to just look at it and say, I think I can do this.
I'm not sure.
Well, we tell them we know you can do this coming to the classes.
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Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And again, when you meet your classmates, as I met Mary the very first time, you start
to identify that everyone's sort of like in this—has similar different ideas, similar
different things that you can share.
And then it normalizes it, doesn't it?
Yeah.
And everybody's at a different level, but that's okay.
In these classes, everybody starts at square one and moves up.
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So it's not like, oh, this person starts here and this person starts here.
We just do the same thing.
We do all the exercises together.
We do all—everything.
Oh, yeah.
And it may be a little bit of a review, but it's totally different than I've ever had
before.
So I doubt they've ever gotten this.
It's a science-based psychic class that was developed from a science person.
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So it made sense to me because it was science-based.
Right.
So, wow, I'm just jumping out of my chair right now because that's phenomenal.
That's great information.
And I'll tell you why.
When I started on my journey, I'll just—this is a little reveal.
I went to a therapist because I wasn't sure I was really—my mind space was—my mental
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space was in the right place.
And I brought a proposal to my therapist and I said, I want to invest some time and energy
in this and money.
But here are my criteria.
And I'm not going to invest in anything that doesn't feel like a scientific endeavor.
What it has to feel is though there's research behind it and there's something that has
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been explored before.
Do you know what I mean?
And the scientific piece of it was very, very important.
And that's one of the things the anesthesia stays and delivers.
It has a proven method for people who are, as beginners, or like you mentioned, coming
back or—and you know, another aspect, Mary, just my mind's racing, is if you're a person
who has developed your clairs, let's say, or you're psychically wide open, right?
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We found in the classes there were people who were coming in who were trying to control
those, get them under control, because they were just—they were overwhelming them in
some aspect.
Well, and a lot of people have been told they're crazy.
Yes.
Because they had them and brought them out and they didn't know how to control them.
They have entities coming in, dark ones and white ones, all kinds of stuff, and they don't
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know what to do with them.
Sure.
Yeah.
We have all kinds of ways to control it, shut it off, everything.
Sure.
Absolutely.
Just one last question, and you've been extremely generous with your time today, and
I and my listeners really appreciate it.
You mentioned a word, two words you said, and they jumped out at me.
And you said, worry box.
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Worry box.
Would you mind explaining what that is a little bit?
It's a box that you, in your mind, you develop this box.
You can make it enormous, you can make it small, you can make it—design it whatever
way you want, but you have this box that you put anything that bothers you that's going
to get in your way into this box and you put it behind you.
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That's how a worry box is.
It's nothing that you've got to make, it's something in your mind that you make.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you find that effective for psychic?
Oh, it works.
It definitely works.
Sometimes you put your whole body in there.
Right, yes.
Yeah.
I'm familiar with that concept.
I have a bag.
Mine looks more like a trash bag because my box got too small.
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In the Anastasia system, they recommend using a box because they assume that what you have
to put in there is small and it will fit.
But I have to have this big bag, really big bag.
That's okay.
And I start from the bottom and I put myself in the bag almost every day and it represents
my ego.
And once I can cancel that and dismiss it, release it, and just let it take a side, like
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Mary said, off to the chair, put it in the chair, once we can dismiss it and let it just
do a sideliner.
Yeah, you've got to sit there.
Yeah.
Otherwise, it results in some analysis paralysis for me.
I get to, what's this, I've got to touch everything, I've got to understand everything.
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I'm looking at them.
Bad or judging what you get or not.
Is this real?
Am I really thinking this?
That's right.
Oh, that sounds stupid.
No, that's not right.
I'm just making this up.
No, that's only ego.
Absolutely.
And my ego is tied directly to my development because I want to watch the map while I'm
supposed to be walking and following the journey.
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And I miss the flowers, I miss everything because I'm too busy focused on the map.
I've got to make sure I'm doing this right.
And it's inhibitive, isn't it?
Yes.
Yeah, because you get in your own way.
At least I get in my own way.
And if you encounter that, that's again something that Mary and Karen and the classes can help
you work through, both developing your abilities.
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We have lots of exercises in those classes that we go through.
Every exercise in the book, sometimes there's two different exercises and you might only
do one, which is the same exercise, it's just done a different way.
But you have a book, you can do the other one yourself.
But every exercise in the book we do in class.
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So you've got a feel for it, you understand it, you can do it again while on videos, you
can do it again out of the book.
There's all kinds of different ways to get out of that.
And you'll soon, I'd say within level one, if not level two, you will, your ego, you'll
know which one's your ego and which one's not.
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Yeah.
Well, today has been fascinating.
We have visited with Mary E. Bacher Estridge and we have been unpacking the fascinating
world of connecting with your higher self.
And again, just to wrap up Mary, the classes are hands on.
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If you're a person who's listening to this broadcast today and you're not sure, I don't
know if I can engage in that, I don't know if it's worth it, if you have some doubts,
give yourself some time.
But today's really going to be a sign or a signal for you to invest really in yourself
because the psychic and the mediumship and the spirit communication, while they might
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feel new at the beginning, are just the normal realms of the psychics.
And the language we use today, if it feels a little unusual, is really not so unusual.
And part of the class helps you acclimate to that sort of thing.
And it's like-minded people in a safe place where you're all learning and growing together.
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Correct.
And we do have replays.
We do, if we remember, we have replays.
Well that's very valuable because I found, just real quick story, I found that when I
was doing some student teaching that one of the students came back and had said that they
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were listening to the replay on their second shift at work and they had sped up the replay
so that they could listen to it on their break.
And it never occurred to me that you could go through the videos and speed up so it goes
through.
I thought, oh my gosh, after four years I finally- so we're all learning.
Yes, yes.
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Again, the benefit of technology.
Myriad has been an absolute pleasure.
It's been a delight to have you here.
I knew I would be excited and it's a complete over-deliver.
I never expected to have this much great information available to the listeners today.
And again- Well thank you so much for having me.
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Absolutely.
And I want to continue the conversation.
We want to make sure that if you're excited about as much as we are to have you here and
you want to talk to Mary Moore, explore whatever opportunities are available for you psychically,
or just have a conversation.
Sometimes we just need to feel like somebody can connect with us in a way that we understand.
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Because these things take time.
They unfold in their own way.
You can reach out to Mary at her email address, thepsychicmary.gmail.com.
The Psychic Mary is all one word, at gmail.com.
And you can check out her website that has lots and lots of information, thepsychicmary.wixsite.com.
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Thepsychicmary.wixsite.com.
And she will be more than happy to continue the discussion with you about your own abilities
and your own development.
And if there's something that we talked about today that interests you, some type topic
about not related to connecting with your higher self, I'm sure she'd welcome that
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as well.
Because oftentimes this is how we find ourselves.
Like Mary mentioned in the beginning of the broadcast, there's a little glimmer.
There's a dream.
It's a something, something says something.
It could be one of those sayings on the back of a teabag.
It could be a phrase.
It could be a song on the radio.
It could be a passing of a loved one.
There could be all sorts of these sort of intuitive, internal, but very personal kind
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of interactions that you feel connected or you feel has been some sort of a way that's
awakened or aroused some awareness.
And it's a little thread.
I think Mary mentioned the word.
It's a little thread.
And it's a whisper.
And that's all it needs to be.
Some of you know, a professional musician, in some of the scripture that they read yesterday
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in the faith community, it said the voice is in the whisper.
And that was one of my absolute favorite phrases.
Because it's, well, it's exciting.
We see the mediums and we see the psychics on TV and doing platform and they have these
emotional sort of sensationalized dramatic experiences.
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Folks, Mary can tell you, it begins here.
It's deep work.
Yes.
And I've had those fantastic readings, unbelievable readings.
And people are so thankful.
And you'll hear about lots of them in the class.
They don't have time here.
But it's a phenomenal, phenomenal.
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Yeah, yeah.
And it's one of these things we can talk, it's like the taste of chocolate.
What does chocolate taste like?
It's an analogy I use a lot.
If you try to describe what chocolate tastes like, it's difficult.
And you can talk about it all day long, you know.
And I've mentioned several times in my broadcasts, you know, we can go, if you put enough psychics
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and mediums in a room, the conversation will continue because it's so diverse and so dynamic
and there's so many different perspectives that people can contribute to.
Well, we're talking a lot about channeling and that type thing, but if you don't want
to channel, it's okay to just take one, two, three, which works on your gifts alone.
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You're not channeling it, maybe with your higher self, but you're not channeling anything
else.
So if you just want to work on those, take levels one through three.
If you want to channel, take all six.
Sure, yeah.
And if you're uncertain, right?
So it sounds like the courses are designed to be customized for your comfort level.
If you feel like you just want to stop at some point and just take a breather and just
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go that far, that's not unusual.
The course has been designed with that mindset.
The person, Sandy and Stacey, who put it together, knew that some people wouldn't necessarily,
they want to do chapters one, two, three, and they're good enough, they're full enough,
right?
Other people are hogs like me who can't get enough.
Well, some people believe in that, some people don't.
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Correct, yes.
So.
And that's okay, right?
That's okay.
It's fine.
It works for some people, it doesn't work.
You know, again, media and television and stuff can sensationalize that stuff.
And believe me, you don't just start spirit communication without the fundamentals.
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And I think if we've done anything today, we've emphasized how important the fundamentals
are and getting a solid, otherwise it can become.
I'm just glad that I had the fundamentals.
Me too.
There are a lot of people that don't have them, and if you run into them for a reading,
you're scared for them because they have no clue.
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You can see the ego come out, you can see this come out.
You want to counsel them, but you've got to allow them to have free will and do their
thing.
Absolutely.
And again, back to that scientific sort of basis, right?
Everything needs to be quantitative and a methodology so that it makes sense to you.
Because if it doesn't resonate with you and you can't, it sounds kind of crazy, not crazy.
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But some people in the field will say woohoo if it sounds just too far beyond.
It's not attractive and no one wants to engage in that, right?
So these fundamentals that we're talking about are based in scientific methodology.
Basically, they give you answers and if you want more information, they tell you what
to do.
They tell you where to go.
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Right.
Exactly.
So if we don't have the answer, you want to investigate it further, there's all kinds
of resources to give you that direction.
Absolutely.
That's what I like so much out of these.
So we're not going to let Mary go until we get her to promise to come back and talk about
something that she just talked about.
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So empirical data.
Empirical data is something that Mary and I experienced when we became teachers.
When we experience it for ourselves, we're in our own skin, right?
So that's our experience, that's our story, we're sticking to it.
It goes in our journal and we know that's us, right?
But when someone says as a light worker who's already shining a light, you should be a light
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worker too and then they bring you in where you teach someone else to do that.
At that moment is when you realize the capabilities and how that functions.
You understand the quantitative results, the methodology, the empirical information now
because first of all you have to study it.
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The teacher teaches you how to teach, right?
But it takes you to that next step where you have to ask those difficult questions about
well, how does this work?
And that's where I think if you're listening carefully Mary, you'll hear that we do understand
how it works and harkening back to what she said previous, when you meet someone in the
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field who maybe didn't have the opportunity to engage in the fundamentals as we have,
then you sort of notice maybe an imbalance, right?
Or maybe a…
Correct.
Yeah, that's all.
And again, no judgment because we all come to this our own way.
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We develop people, now we're going back to readings again, we develop them how to do
reading and when you get somebody that hasn't had those fundamentals, you will see the ego
come in and you're getting ego stuck.
You're not getting a reading, you're getting what they empathically are getting from you.
And it's not a reading at all.
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They are reading you and giving you back information about you.
So that's almost robbing Peter, you know?
It's not giving you a reading and you've paid this money for a reading.
So it's not exactly a reading, it's empathic reading.
So folks, that was an example, a perfect example that was not staged, we did not script that,
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of what Mary offers, you see?
You can discern between, you know…
To give you evidential information from spirit that can't come from anybody else.
That enables an authentic experience, you see?
So that's the difference between someone who just, you know, kind of sets up a card
table at the fair and does some readings for you, even though this might be effective,
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right?
And someone who really understands how the process works and what to deliver and how
to deliver it.
And I think Mary did mention ethics and we're going to invite her back, folks.
So if you didn't get enough, like I have it, we're going to invite her to come back
and talk about another topic, another fascinating topic, because we've mentioned about a hundred
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today and yeah, I'd love to explore it.
It's like being in a library, you just don't know which book to…
You know when it's little for one book, you want to take at least six home.
So I'm going to just thank again, Mary, profusely for coming on the program today
and sharing all this great information.
And one last time, we're going to let people know how to get in contact with you, continue
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that conversation, to reach out to Mary and sign up for those classes.
Again, September 14th is the beginning.
I feel like there's somebody out there who's…
We do have an orientation at the end of this month, so if you go on the website, it's
all there.
Sure, yeah.
And so just using some psychic stuff, I feel like there's people out there listening to
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this who are looking at the stairs and are seeing all the stairs.
Maybe there's like ten steps and it's like, oh, I don't do so good on steps, I'm not
sure.
But you know, you only need to do the first one.
You just have to take the first one and let Mary and Karen guide you along the rest.
You're not alone.
You're not… your psychic development is…
And you know, when we talk about spirituality, the first part of that word is spirit, right?
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Spirit.
Your spirit, higher self.
We're all talking about spirituality and it's a wonderful dimension to explore.
So take a deep breath, think about it, and then look at that website.
It's thepsychicmary.wixsite.com and explore that a little bit more.
Mary, thank you so much for coming on the program.
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We look forward to having you again in the future.
My listeners will definitely be on the lookout for those announcements on the next program.
And thank you again.
I really appreciate you coming on board.
Thank you.
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This is Psychic Pete wishing you and yours all the very best.
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