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February 16, 2025 32 mins

Today, Jude Carn and Alessio Rizzo discuss neurodiversity. Join them in conversation. Neurodiversity does not originate in parts, through the IFS lens. It is natural and innate to humans and includes the mind and the body.

We talk about some of the main neurodivergences under the umbrella and do a deeper dive into why we have to see neurodivergence as the hardware of the system, not a 'part' that needs to be fixed in IFS terms. Alessio and Jude distinguish between parts and the system, talking about their experiences and how we can support our parts to understand and accept neurodivergence, and how important is it to have a therapist that understands this too.


Alessio Rizzo - www.therapywithalessio.com

Jude Carn - www.anchoredinself.co.uk


Referenced in today's episode:

Christiansen, C., & Martinez-Dettamanti, M. (2023). Embodying IFS with neurodivergent clients: A neuro-inclusive approach for therapists. In Riemersma, J (Ed),Altogether US: Integrating the IFS model with key modalities, communities, and trends


Middleton, E (2023) UNMASKED: The Ultimate Guide to ADHD, Autism, and Neurodivergence.

Nick Walker - Neuroqueer Heresies Autonomous Press


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This podcast is hosted by qualified therapists who share personal reflections and professional insights into therapy and mental health. The views expressed are those of the individual speakers or guests and are personal to them.


While we talk about therapy, this podcast is not therapy. It’s for information, reflection, and conversation only, and should never be considered a substitute for professional mental health support, diagnosis, or treatment. Listening to this podcast does not create a therapist-client relationship.


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